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Mike's Concerns About Police Cooperation 00:13:15
January 27th, 2026.
And the House gavels back in for legislative business February 2nd.
When members return, be sure to follow our live coverage here on C-SPAN.
Shortly, we'll take you live to Washington, D.C., where the city's mayor, Muriel Bowser, will be discussing the district's preparation for the winter storm expected to hit the region this weekend.
When the mayor's press conference begins, watch our live coverage here on C-SPAN.
YouGov recently conducted a poll asking people if they agree with the idea of eliminating ICE as a federal agency.
Take a look at these numbers.
While 42% said that they strongly or somewhat support this, 45% said they somewhat or strongly oppose the idea of eliminating ICE.
Another question asked in a Quinnipiac poll, their view of U.S. immigration and customs enforcement.
57% disapprove of how ICE is enforcing immigration laws, while 40% approve.
We want to get your take on all of this this morning.
The vice president was in Minneapolis yesterday, and the headline out of the Minnesota Star Tribune this morning, Vance blames failure of cooperation for chaos in Minneapolis.
Here's what he had to say.
President Trump this week said that ICE has made some mistakes.
I'm curious what steps the administration is taking to rectify those and do you think your presence in Minneapolis today will calm the tensions there?
Well, certainly one of my goals is to calm the tensions, to talk to people, to try to understand what we can do better.
You know, when the president says that there are, that mistakes have been made, you know, my thought on that is that, well, of course there have been mistakes made because you're always going to have mistakes made in law enforcement.
I mean, we all know this.
Probably every single person in this room knows a police officer.
99% of our police officers, probably more than that, are doing everything right.
Some people are going to make mistakes.
That's the nature of law enforcement.
But the number one way where we could lower the mistakes that are happening, at least with our immigration enforcement, is to have local jurisdictions that are cooperating with us.
There are some very basic things that would make Minneapolis look like, look, Memphis, Tennessee, a blue city where you do not have this chaos in immigration enforcement because the local police and the local authorities are cooperating with us.
So when you look at Memphis, Tennessee, or Austin, Texas, or any other community virtually across the United States of America, and you don't see the same level of chaos in Minneapolis, the natural conclusion is that it's not what ICE is doing in Minneapolis, it's what Minneapolis authorities are doing to prevent ICE from doing their jobs.
And that's exactly what's happening.
Vice President Vance in Minneapolis yesterday, Politico this morning with the headline on House action, approving a DHS funding bill and other final spending bills amid this ICE uproar.
And they note that only seven Democrats join most Republicans in approving the Homeland Security bill ahead of a January 30th shutdown deadline.
Now Democrats in nuanced opposition voted majority of them voting against this Homeland Security measure.
The vote was 220 to 207.
And the New York Times reports this morning that the appropriators had done some checks on the Homeland Security and ICE Agency, keeping ICE funding about the same as last year.
That was one of the checks that the appropriators put on this agency.
Reducing funding for the office of Secretary Noam by $29.5 million and require her office to pay for travel on government aircraft and require the Homeland Security Department to detail spending of $190 billion under the One Big Beautiful bill, including $75 billion for ICE.
This is the Washington Post reporting, and they note the seven Democrats who joined the Republicans to approve this spending measure.
There are four on your screen: Representative Davis, and here are the other three: Congresswoman Perez, Congresswoman Gonzalez, and Congressman Swazi of New York, many of them in swing districts.
Now, Democrats, as I said, the majority of them were in opposition, including the Democratic leaders, Hakeem Jeffries, as well as Catherine Clark, who counts votes for the Democrats in the House.
Here's what she had to say: Today is not about ICE funding.
Republicans already gave ICE $75 billion.
Today is about the fact that we have a mass paramilitary force terrorizing our communities.
Republicans had the opportunity in this bill to enact common sense checks on ICE operations.
They refused.
First, they refused to ensure ICE abides by the same laws and procedures as our local and state police.
That they're unmasked when on duty, that they actually wear the body cameras, that they wear a nameplate identifying who they are, and that they are held responsible for excessive force.
Second, the GOP refused to join us in upholding the Constitution.
Not only are these arrests warrantless, ICE has now determined they have the right to search your home without a judicial warrant.
That is illegal and it is unconstitutional.
Third, they refuse to make sure that the use of deadly force is always thoroughly investigated.
When Renee Goode was shot to death, Christy Noam declared her a domestic terrorist within hours.
The only investigation Noam was interested in was an investigation into Renee Goode's widow.
That is not justice.
That is not security for the American people.
Fourth, Republicans refuse to agree to the simple concept that American citizens should not be detained and deported.
That people going about their business should not be kidnapped because of the color of their skin or because they're engaging in peaceful protests.
Democratic whip Catherine Clark on the floor yesterday explaining why the majority of Democrats oppose this Homeland Security spending bill.
You heard her outline there the reforms that they wanted to see to ICE.
And some Democrats say it's beyond fixing and that it should be abolished.
What do all of you think?
Diana in San Antonio, Texas, Democratic caller, good morning to you.
Good morning.
How are you?
What do you think, Diana?
I don't, I think ICE should be reformed to go back to enforcing the borders.
And it must never mean violating the rights of its citizens.
What rights are being violated?
Being detained for no reason.
Being asked to show your papers in America.
In America.
Citizens.
Who does that?
I mean, what other agency does that?
How do you agents determine whether or not somebody is a U.S. citizen or an illegal immigrant without asking for documentation?
By the color of their skin.
That was by Justice Kavanaugh.
Kavanaugh stops.
The color of their skin.
They said it themselves.
All right.
Diana there in San Antonio and Texas.
Democratic caller Mike in Ohio Independent.
Mike, your turn.
Good morning, Greta.
Good morning, America.
That first caller, unbelievable.
It's called ID, not paperwork.
This is not Gestapo or Nazi Germany like they're portraying.
Let's talk about this.
ICE is getting rid of the people that are here illegally.
Biden and Kamala Harris had the border open and allowed 15 to 20 million people who were not even vetted.
ICE is going after the people that already have warrants.
And if you just happen to be an illegal here illegally without a V a green card or visa, you are deported.
Plain and simple.
We have Minnesota, everybody.
I mean, look at what's going on financially with every state that have taken in these illegals.
And I do say illegal.
And it's just inconceivable how the Democrats have turned the American citizens against American citizens.
When are we going to wake up and realize this is about the census, which they don't even, is illegal to say if you're an American citizen.
This is about having a voter base legally or illegally in your area, your state, to where they can change and get Democrats back in to just finish to destroying this country.
Mike, do you do you see any concerns with how ICE is conducting itself in these cities?
Listen, I was a military police.
When I approached my people, the attitude that you got is the attitude that you gave.
The Democratic Party has turned people against ICE, and things are getting physical.
Renee, all she had to do was comply.
But no, she was part of an organization trained by the Democratic Party and these NGOs on how not to go along with ICE.
I mean, I'm just, I'm so pissed off.
We need to get it together.
And Trump is doing the right idea.
Okay.
Go ICE.
Mike's thoughts there.
In Ohio, an independent caller.
Writing in today's opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal is Jimmy Percival, who is the general counsel for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, how the deep state thwarted ICE administrative warrants.
He says bureaucrats falsely claimed the law didn't allow officers into illegal aliens' homes.
Those are his words in the Wall Street Journal opinion pages.
And what he writes is that the Fourth Amendment is an essential safeguard of America's privacy and personal liberty.
Its protections must not be eroded, but they also must not be misappropriated by those seeking to subvert legitimate law enforcement.
The left has done that for decades, particularly in the area of immigration enforcement.
He goes on to say this, that illegal aliens, however, don't have the same rights as citizens.
Under federal immigration law, officers may issue an administrative warrant, which means that the probable cause finding is made by an executive branch officer rather than a judicial officer.
This is consistent with broad judicial recognition that illegal aliens aren't entitled to the same Fourth Amendment protections as U.S. citizens.
He also writes that while administration warrants may satisfy the Fourth Amendment for any arrest of an illegal alien, ICE currently uses these warrants to enter an illegal alien's residence only when the alien has received a final order of removal from an immigration judge.
That means the alien has already seen a judge, presented his case, received due process, and been ordered removed from the country.
Aliens in this context are fugitives from justice.
And the 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which has jurisdiction over Minnesota, has expressly recognized that administrative warrants may be used to enter a residence to capture a fugitive.
That's the general counsel for the Homeland Security Department writing in today's Wall Street Journal.
Rory, in California, Republican, let's hear from you.
Yes, a couple of things I would like to find out.
First, are these protesters carrying any identification?
I've been hearing stories they don't, and they expect to be released because you can't identify them.
Every police officer in the world knows you have to identify yourself.
Shirley On ICE Rhetoric 00:07:26
You can't go around saying, I don't have it, now let me go.
If that's the case, they don't deserve it.
I also understand that between 10 and 20 million aliens enter this country under Biden.
I think somebody said it's one and a half to two million people that have been caught and deported.
Another three years of this, then we'll have six to eight million aliens maybe deported, the worst probably, but others too.
I don't know how many got into America, but even when Trump leaves, there'll still be too many, and you need to be an American to be an America.
And you need to prove that you're an American, and you always have to prove your identity.
That's it.
So, Rory, are you still there?
Oh, we lost Rory.
We'll go to Shirley in Stratford, Connecticut, Democratic Caller.
Hi, Shirley.
Hi, good morning.
Good morning, America.
I want to just have all the Americans listen.
We have invited people to come to our country because we have the Statue of Liberty that says, give me your wheat, you're tired, you're poor.
And we also have noticed that there's a poem from the Holocaust Memorial Day Trust that says, first they came.
And it says, first they came for the communists, and I did not speak out because I was not a communist.
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
But then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me.
They have taken a five-year-old boy whose parents were going through the immigration process to become citizens.
And they took this child because they wanted to take his parents, his pregnant mother and his father.
And these people are just trying to become American citizens, and we're not giving them an opportunity.
But Matthew 25:42 to 45 says, If you've done it to the least of these, my brethren, you've done it unto me, says Jesus.
And if you don't stop abusing people, you're abusing Jesus.
And so this is what I feel this country is divided against.
They're divide against good and evil.
Shirley, so support or oppose abolishing ICE?
Would you go as far as terminating the agency?
I oppose what ICE is doing, but ICE was always here.
They always have been going through an immigration process for those who are incarcerated by our country that have done crimes.
They are criminals in jail right now that should not be let go into the country, but they send them straight to ICE when they are undocumented.
And there was always a process.
This is not new.
This has always been going on.
These people who are in the administration now in Trump's administration don't know what they're doing.
They are trying to turn things around on citizens of the United States because if they can get us used to people being picked up off the street, they can be another Germany back in the early 40s when Hitler was doing his dirt to the citizens of his country.
All right, Shirley's comments.
They are from Stratford, Connecticut, Democratic caller.
Listen to the Appropriations Committee Chair, Congressman Tom Cole, Republican of Oklahoma, during yesterday's House debate over the funding measure for the Homeland Security Department, which includes ICE.
Here he's pushing back on some of the verbal attacks on ICE officers.
Now, I do worry about the rhetoric around this bill.
I personally believe, not intentionally, but it's reckless.
The encouraging people to believe that we have masses of bad actors in a particular agency and that some of the rhetoric, and mostly not on this floor, let me say that, that I have heard in the country about comparing law enforcement officers to the Gestapo or the Nazi or that's terrible.
That's not true.
That's not who they are.
That's not what they do.
And that kind of rhetoric, when we hear it and wherever we hear it from, is dangerous and reckless and wrong.
Republican Oklahoma Congressman Tom Cole on the floor yesterday defending ICE.
This morning, we're asking you, do you support or oppose the abolishing of ICE?
Russell and Jerome, Idaho, Independent, good morning.
Good morning.
Thank you for taking my call.
I'm in Idaho and the weather is good, thank God.
But I have a lot of background for the ICE and the Border Patrol.
I was born and raised in San Diego, California, and I lived a lot of time within a mile of the border.
And so I saw for many years up until 1990 that people were just coming across trying to get a better life.
And I just, I don't understand how our ICE agents aren't taking that into consideration when they beat these people up or excuse me, rough them up.
I just don't understand how that can take place and people don't.
All right, Russell.
So do you, what do you think should happen with ICE?
Should there be reforms?
Well, I appreciate that they're there, but like I say, I lived on the, I saw immigrants coming over our fences.
And, you know, they looked like haggard and they were tired and they had kids.
And I would give them water and I should probably be in jail right now for doing what I do.
I give them a can of beans.
I didn't have much.
But, you know, I felt sorry for these people coming over to America.
And I just don't understand why ICE has to be so mad to them.
All right.
So, Russell, are you in favor of some reforms?
We heard Catherine Clark, Democratic leader on the House floor, saying Republicans rejected many reforms put forth by the party in order to support the funding measure for the Homeland Security Department.
And because they were rejected by Republicans, the majority of Democrats opposed the legislation.
Right, right.
I see that.
I see that angle.
But, you know, it really comes down to we are all people.
Taking Care of Our Own 00:00:44
We're people.
We're human beings.
We're neighbors.
We're, you know, we need to take care of each other.
Okay.
Russell's thoughts.
Anita, an Alabama Republican.
Let's hear from you.
Yes.
First of all, the lady that was quoting Bible scripture, it also says, if you don't take care of your own household, you're worse than an infidel.
So the newspaper article that you read, okay, that was not true because they do have more benefits over here than senior citizens that were born and raised here.
I know that firsthand.
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