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Public Affairs Events

C-SPAN’s Public Affairs Events episode highlights the Supreme Court’s 9-0 rejection of forced MS-13 returns to El Salvador, Trump’s Oval Office meeting with Bukele—where he touted a 99.1% border crossing drop—and vowed to deport violent criminals, including naturalized citizens. He slammed CNN for ignoring "success metrics," blamed past administrations for open borders, and boasted $7T in investments under tariffs on cars, steel, and drugs. Iran’s nuclear threats prompted strike warnings, while China/Vietnam trade talks clashed with NATO criticism over funding. The show wraps with bipartisan moments and a 2025 Windsor Castle state dinner, underscoring Trump’s aggressive immigration and foreign policy stances amid legal and diplomatic pushback. [Automatically generated summary]

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donald j trump
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kristi noem
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pam bondi
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stephen miller
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dr cornel west
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jd vance
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john curtis
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kaitlan collins
cnn 00:17
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kevin stitt
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marco rubio
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mike pence
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nayib bukele
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nick shirley
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Coming up, an Oval Office meeting with President Trump and Salvadoran President Naebukeley.
The April meeting came as the Trump administration was working on expanding a deal between the U.S. and El Salvador for the Central American nation to accept deportees from the U.S.
donald j trump
Well, thank you very much.
It's an honor to have a friend of mine because we went through this together and got along very well for my entire period of time.
So I knew him as a very young man.
Now he's just a young man.
And he's done a fantastic job.
Mr. President, it's an honor to have you.
unidentified
Thank you.
You're doing incredibly for your country.
donald j trump
And we appreciate working with you because you want to stop crime and so do we.
And it's very, very effective.
And I want to just say hello to the people of El Salvador and say they have one hell of a president.
Okay, and I mean that I know him well.
I know him as a very young man, Marco.
Even younger than you.
You know, he started pretty young.
unidentified
He'll always be younger.
donald j trump
Young at heart.
But I want to thank you for the great job you're doing.
I appreciate that so much.
Thank you.
unidentified
Thank you.
Well, it's an honor to be here in the Oval Office with the president and leader of the free world.
We're very happy and we're very eager to help.
We know that you have a crime problem, a terrorism problem that you need help with.
And we're a small country, but if we can help, we will do it.
And we actually turned the murder capital of the world.
That was the journalists call it, right?
Murder capital of the world into the safest country in the Western Hemisphere.
And, you know, if they sometimes they say that we imprisoned thousands, I like to say that we actually liberated millions.
So, you know, like, it's very good.
donald j trump
Who gave him that line?
Do you think I can use that?
unidentified
In fact, Mr. President, you have 350 million people to liberate.
But to liberate 350 million people, you have to imprison some.
You know, that's the way it works, right?
You cannot just free the criminals and think crime is going to go down magically.
You have to imprison them so you can liberate 350 million Americans that are asking for the end of crime and the end of terrorism.
And it can be done.
I mean, you're doing it already.
And I'm sure that people have seen the change in the streets.
A long way to go because you're just initiating your second term.
But it's clear that with the numbers at the border, even in Democrat Run Cities, they get help from the work you're doing.
So I'm really happy to be here, honored, and eager to help.
donald j trump
Well, we had a terrible thing happen.
We had an administration that allowed people to come in freely into our country from not only South America, but from all over the world.
Many from the Congo and Africa, Asia, all over the world, Europe, rough parts of Europe.
And they came from prisons, and they came from mental institutions and they came from gangs and the gangs of Venezuela and other places.
And hundreds of thousands and even millions of them came.
21 million people altogether, but many of the people that came, just a tremendous percentage of them, were criminals, in some cases violent criminals.
We had 11,088 known murderers.
Half of them murdered more than one person.
This was allowed by a man who, what he did to our country is just unbelievable.
So we're straightening it out.
We're getting them out.
But what they did and what that party did to our country, open borders.
Anybody could come in.
As soon as I heard that, I said, every prison's going to be emptied out into our country.
That's what happened.
And we're straightening it out.
And we just had numbers.
We had the highest recruiting numbers in the history of our country going into police departments.
And a year ago, we had the lowest numbers.
unidentified
You couldn't hire a biggest change.
donald j trump
Nobody's.
And the military now, Marines, the Army, Air Force, Coast Guard, every slot is, I mean, we have the best numbers we've ever had.
We call it recruitment numbers.
And we've never had anything like it.
We had records on every single, at every single level.
But very important, the policemen.
The policemen are joining forces now that we really were having a hard time with policemen because we weren't protecting our police.
And we cherish our police.
The police are great, and the firemen and everybody else.
But we have the highest numbers that we've ever had, the most enthusiasm.
Great enthusiasm on trade and other things.
We're doing great.
We're taking in billions and billions of dollars.
We made two weeks ago, I gave them a little bit of a pause because you have to show a little flexibility.
We go back to what we have to do.
The markets have been very strong once they got used to it.
But we were losing $2 billion a day.
There's no company big like this.
This is the biggest deal ever made.
Now we're making $3 billion a day.
We're a great country, but we had stupid people running this country.
And I can say, what they've done to us at the border should never and can never be forgotten.
It's a sin what they did.
And you are helping us out.
And we appreciate it.
unidentified
Thanks.
Thank you.
Actually, what you're doing with the border is remarkable.
It has dropped, what, 95%?
It's incredible.
donald j trump
As this morning, 99%, 99.1%, to be exact.
unidentified
Why are those numbers not in the media?
donald j trump
Well, they get out with the fake news, you know, like CNN over here doesn't want to put them out because they don't like putting out good numbers.
They don't really like putting out, because I think they hate our country, actually.
But it's a shame.
You're right.
Isn't that a great question?
Why doesn't the media, why don't they put out numbers?
unidentified
Yeah, 99%.
I mean, it's crazy, right?
We're doing crazy turnaround.
donald j trump
Christy, could you maybe say a couple of words about the border, how we're doing?
kristi noem
Yeah, it's just been absolutely phenomenal what a great leader can do.
Clear direction.
Our laws matter.
We should only have people in our country that love us.
And the Border Patrol and our ICE officers and law enforcement officers have done fantastic work.
So we're proud of them.
Now we just need to get the criminals and murderers and rapists and dangerous gang members and terrorist organizations out of our country.
So Mr. President Kelly, we thank you very much for your partnership.
It has been wonderful for us to be able to have somewhere to send the worst of the worst and someone to partner with.
And we'd like to continue that partnership because it's been a powerful message of consequences.
Mr. President, you wanted people to know that there was consequences if you break our laws and harm our people and endanger families.
And this is a clear consequence for the worst of the worst that we have somewhere to put them.
donald j trump
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Yeah, we even have this gang member from Venezuela, one of the ones you sent, and we interviewed him just to get some information, et cetera, from them.
And he said, oh, well, you know, I got arrested six times, but they released me that six times, so I should be released again.
And then we said, well, but what's the last thing you do?
And he said, well, I shot a cop in the leg, but I didn't kill him.
I just shot him in the leg.
And we're like, this guy was arrested six times here in the United States, six times.
He was released six times.
And he was released five times.
And the last time he was sent to El Saba, right?
So he's not getting released.
But the last thing he shot a cop, actually, and he shot him in the leg.
So these are, you know.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's something broken.
donald j trump
The liberal establishment.
But they're not running things anymore in this country.
And we're run by and I don't say conservative.
I don't say anything.
We're run by people with great common sense.
unidentified
Yeah, common sense.
donald j trump
Because it's all common sense.
It's not liberal conservative.
It's common sense.
Like, do you allow men to play in women's sports?
Do you allow men to box your women and box?
Because I know you have a lot of boxes.
unidentified
That's violence.
donald j trump
That's abusive.
unidentified
That's violence woman.
donald j trump
It's abusive.
But we have people that fight to the death because they think men should be able to play in women's sports.
And some of those sports, it wouldn't matter much, but it still matters.
But some of them are very dangerous for women.
unidentified
Some years ago, like we said, a decade ago or so, women's rights movements were pressuring so that we enacted specific laws to avoid men abusing women.
And I think those laws were great because there were a lot of men abusing women.
But now some of the same people are trying to backtrack and actually trying to make new laws allowing men to abuse women in sports.
So actually, that doesn't make sense.
It doesn't make sense.
donald j trump
It's crazy.
You know, they have weightlifting records, right?
A woman gets up this way.
She's incredible.
A guy gets up and beats her by 100 pounds.
What are you going to do?
A record that hadn't been broken in 18 years.
You know, they put on an ounce and an ounce, quarter of an ounce, eighth of an ounce for 18 years.
Now they have a guy come up peeing.
The whole thing is crazy.
But they continue to fight.
And I don't like talking about it because I want to save it for just before the next election.
I say to my people, don't even talk about it because they'll change.
But I watched this morning.
There was a congressman fighting to the death for men to play against women in sports.
And you say to yourself, why?
What are they doing, right?
What are they doing?
But your country is not too big in that.
unidentified
No, of course not.
We're big in protecting women.
donald j trump
Good.
Very important form of protection.
unidentified
And as you can see, most of my cabinet are women.
donald j trump
That's impressive.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
donald j trump
That's why you're mad.
unidentified
They're not the eye us or anything.
They can be great at what they do.
donald j trump
That's right.
This is very impressive.
This is the first.
We've had women, but we've never had three of them right here.
unidentified
Four and three.
donald j trump
Look at what we have.
You guys feel a little bit mistreated?
That's good.
I like it.
We've been advanced.
I've been very advanced in that regard, too.
We have Pam and Sue's been so fantastic.
unidentified
Christy.
donald j trump
Christy.
unidentified
And the most powerful woman they see anywhere.
They're all afraid of her.
donald j trump
Susie Wells.
They say, oh, she's the most powerful woman in the world, according to magazines.
unidentified
What do I know?
donald j trump
I think she probably is.
unidentified
Yeah, she probably is.
donald j trump
Yeah, she probably is.
unidentified
Congratulations.
donald j trump
And you know, Stephen has done such a great job.
Thank you, sir.
We have great people.
unidentified
Very famous too.
donald j trump
But we love working with Stephen University.
He really lets them have it, right?
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
donald j trump
There's no games.
unidentified
No.
donald j trump
It's very good.
He knows.
Do you have any questions, please?
No, let's not stop.
Mr. President, because they're so.
They're just so wrong.
Yeah, please.
unidentified
Yeah, thank you, Mr. President.
You repeatedly mentioned last night that Russia's attack on Ukraine was a mistake.
What is the exact mistake?
And hadn't you given Putin a deadline to actually move toward a ceasefire?
donald j trump
The mistake was letting the war happen.
If Biden were competent and if Zelensky were competent, and I don't know that he is, we had a rough session with this guy over here.
He just kept asking for more and more.
That war should have never been allowed to happen.
That war, I went four years and Putin wouldn't even bring it up.
And as soon as the election was rigged and I wasn't here, that war started.
There was no way that war should have been allowed to happen.
And Biden should have stopped it.
And you take a look at Putin.
I'm not saying anybody's an angel, but I will tell you, I went four years and it wasn't even a question.
He would never, and I told him, don't do it.
You're not going to do it.
And it was the apple of his eye, but there was no way that he would have done it.
All you had to do is lower oil prices.
If you lowered oil prices, Biden kept the prices so high because he made it impossible to get it.
If you lowered oil prices, you would have had the war.
But you wouldn't have had it with me anyway.
That war would have never happened.
And I think it's a great abuse.
So now what do you do?
You get a country where 25% of its land is gone and the best locations where millions of people are killed.
You know, you haven't reported accurately the death.
And this was Biden's war, and I'm trying to stop it.
And I think we're going to do a good job.
I hope we're going to do it.
They lose 2,500 young people a week, on average.
Now, they're Russians and they're Ukrainians.
But it's 2,000.
unidentified
We don't care.
donald j trump
It's like whatever it is.
They're not from your country, they're not from mine.
But I want to stop it.
2,500, it's a killing field.
It's like the Civil War.
You take a look.
I look at the satellite pictures.
This should not be happening in our time.
Of course, our time can be pretty violent, as we know.
But that's a war that should have never been allowed to start.
And Biden could have stopped it, and Zelensky could have stopped it.
And Putin should have never started it.
Everybody's to blame.
unidentified
Have you spoken to President Zelensky, sir, about his offer to purchase more hatred and missile values?
Oh, I don't know.
donald j trump
He's always looking to purchase missiles.
He's against, listen, when you start a war, you've got to know that you can win the war, right?
You don't start a war against somebody that's 20 times your size and then hope that people give you some missiles.
If we didn't give them what we gave, remember, I gave them javelins.
That's how they won their first big battle with the tanks that got stuck in the mud and they took them out with javelins.
They have an expression that Obama at the time, Obama gave them sheets and Trump gave them javelins.
But just something that should have never happened.
It's a really shame.
The towns are destroyed.
Towns and cities are, you know, largely destroyed.
They have the spires, you know, the beautiful spires that go up.
They say they were the most beautiful in the world in Ukraine for whatever reason, but the most beautiful in the world.
They're mostly laying on their side, shattered and broken.
And most importantly, you have millions of people dead.
Millions of people dead because of three people.
I would say three people.
Let's say Putin, number one, but let's say Biden, who had no idea what the hell he was doing, number two, and Zelensky.
And all I can do is try and stop it.
That's all I want to do.
I want to stop the killing.
And I think we're doing well in that regard.
I think you'll have some very good proposals very soon.
unidentified
Last question, sir.
Have you attributed a motive for the FBI investigation behind the attack on Governor Josh Shapiro over the weekend?
donald j trump
No, I haven't.
But the attacker was not a fan of Trump, I understand, just from what I read and from what I've been told.
The attacker basically wasn't a fan of anybody.
It's probably just a whack job.
And certainly a thing like that cannot be allowed to happen.
unidentified
Relationship with President Bukele, the best guarantee that this time you won't terminate the temporary protection status.
donald j trump
I have the best relationship with this man.
I have the best relationship with him.
We've known each other.
I've known him since he was a very young man, as I said.
unidentified
Very, very young.
donald j trump
And I was impressed.
I said, look at this guy.
He is.
In fact, he sort of looked like a teenager.
He looked like a teenager, isn't it?
He grew up well in the last five years.
unidentified
Do you support an extension for nationals of El Salvador under temporary protection status?
Do you plan to ask?
I was asking President Buzzy.
donald j trump
Let's hear the question from this very low-rated anchor at CBS.
unidentified
Thank you.
kaitlan collins
Do you plan to ask President Bukeley to help return the man who your administration says was mistakenly deported?
The man who was mistakenly deported to El Salvador?
donald j trump
Well, let me ask Pam, would you ask to answer that question?
pam bondi
Sure, President.
First and foremost, he was illegally in our country.
He had been illegally in our country.
And in 2019, two courts, an immigration court and an appellate immigration court, ruled that he was a member of MS-13 and he was illegally in our country.
Right now, it was a paperwork.
It was additional paperwork had needed to be done.
That's up to El Salvador if they want to return him.
That's not up to us.
The Supreme Court ruled, President, that if, as El Salvador wants to return him, this is international matters, foreign affairs, if they wanted to return him, we would facilitate it, meaning provide a plane.
So will you return him?
donald j trump
You are doing a great job.
unidentified
Thank you.
donald j trump
Thank you.
unidentified
Wait a minute.
donald j trump
Can you just also respond to that question?
Because, you know, it's asked by CNN and they always ask it with a slant because they're totally slanting because they don't know what's happening.
That's why nobody's watching them.
But would you answer that question also, please?
stephen miller
Yes, gladly.
So, as Pam mentioned, there's an illegal alien from El Salvador.
So, with respect to you, he's a citizen of El Salvador.
So, it's very arrogant even for American media to suggest that we would even tell El Salvador how to handle their own citizens as a starting point.
As two immigration courts found that he was a member of MS-13, when President Trump declared MS-13 to be a foreign terrorist organization, that meant that he was no longer eligible under federal law, which I'm sure you know, you're very familiar with the INA, that he was no longer eligible for any form of immigration relief in the United States.
So, he had a deportation order that was valid, which meant that under our law, he's not even allowed to be present in the United States and had to be returned because of the foreign terrorist designation.
This issue was then, by a district court judge, completely inverted, and a district court judge tried to tell the administration that they had to kidnap a citizen of El Salvador and fly him back here.
That issue was raised to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court said the district court order was unlawful, and its main components were reversed 9-0 unanimously, stating clearly that neither Secretary of State nor the President could be compelled by anybody to forcibly retrieve a citizen of El Salvador from El Salvador,
who again is a member of MS-13, which, as I'm sure you understand, rapes little girls, murders women, murders children, is engaged in the most barbaric activities in the world.
And I can promise you, if he was your neighbor, you would move right away.
unidentified
So, you don't plan to return to the city?
donald j trump
What was the ruling in the Supreme Court, Steve?
Was it nine to nothing?
stephen miller
Yes, it was a nine-zero in our favor.
In our favor, against the district court ruling, saying that no district court has the power to compel the foreign policy function of the United States.
As Pam said, the ruling solely stated that if this individual at El Salvador's sole discretion was sent back to our country, that we could deport him a second time.
No version of this legally ends up with him ever living here because he is a citizen of El Salvador.
That is the president of El Salvador.
Your questions about it per the court can only be directed to him.
unidentified
I asked him.
Can President Bukele weigh in on this?
Do you plan to return him?
Well, I'm supposed to have not suggested that I smuggle a terrorist into the United States, right?
How can I return him to the United States?
Like, could I smuggle him into the United States?
Or what do I do?
Of course, I'm not going to do it.
It's like, I mean, the question is preposterous.
How can I smuggle a terrorist into the United States?
I don't have the power to return him to the United States.
You can release him inside the world.
Yeah, but I'm not releasing, I mean, we're not very fond of releasing terrorists into our country.
nayib bukele
I mean, we just turned the murder capital of the world into the safest country of the Western Hemisphere, and you want us to go back into the releasing criminals so we can go back to being the murder capital of the world.
unidentified
That's not going to happen.
Well, they'd love to have a criminal release into El Salvador.
That's a fascinating thing.
donald j trump
They would love it.
Yeah.
These are sick people.
Marco, do you have something to say about that?
marco rubio
Yeah, I mean, Stephen Eitlander, I don't understand what the confusion is.
This individual is a citizen of El Salvador.
He was illegally in the United States and was returned to his country.
unidentified
That's where you deport people back to their country of origin.
Except for Venezuela that wasn't refusing to take people back or places like that.
I can tell you this, Mr. President.
The foreign policy of the United States is conducted by the President of the United States, not by a court.
marco rubio
And no court in the United States has a right to conduct the foreign policy of the United States.
stephen miller
It's that simple.
End of story.
And that's what the Supreme Court held, by the way.
The Supreme Court said exactly what Marco said: that no court has the authority to compel the foreign policy function of the United States.
We want a case 9-0, and people like CNN are portraying it as a loss, as usual, because they want foreign terrorists in the country who kidnap women and children.
But President Trump, his policy is foreign terrorists that are here illegally get expelled from the country, which, by the way, is a 90-10 issue.
kaitlan collins
Well, Mr. President, you said that if the Supreme Court said someone needed to be returned, that you would abide by that.
You said that on Air Force One just a few days ago.
unidentified
And they said that it must be facilitated.
donald j trump
Why don't you just say, isn't it wonderful that we're keeping criminals out of our country?
Why can't you just say that?
Why do you go over and over?
And that's why nobody watches you anymore.
You know, you have no credibility.
Please go ahead.
unidentified
President Trump, thank you very much.
How many illegal criminals are you planning on exporting to El Salvador?
And President Bukele, how many are you willing to take from the U.S.?
donald j trump
As many as possible.
And I just asked the President, you know, it's this massive complex that he built, jail complex.
I said, can you build some more of them, please?
As many as we can get out of our country that were allowed in here by incompetent Joe Biden through open borders.
Open borders.
You probably hear open borders and you can't even understand it because nobody can understand.
Nobody smart or with common sense can understand it.
So we have millions of people that should not be in this country that are dangerous.
Not just people, because we have people, but we have millions of people that are murderers, drug dealers.
They've been allowed to come into our country by other countries that were very smart.
When they heard that this very low IQ president, and by the way, I took my cognitive exam as part of my physical exam, and I got the highest mark, and one of the doctors said, sir, I've never seen anybody get that kind of.
That was the highest mark.
I hope you're happy with that.
Although they haven't been bugging me too much to take a cognitive.
But I did do my physical and it was released.
I hope you're all happy with it.
I notice there's no question, so probably you are.
But the cognitive, they said to me, sir, would you like to take a cognitive test?
I said, did Biden take one?
No.
Did anybody take one?
No, not too many people took them.
I said, what about Obama?
Did he take one?
No, he didn't take one either.
I said, let me be the only one to take one.
But I've actually taken them three times already.
I like taking them because they're sort of, they're not too tough for me to take.
But we had a great physical exam, so I knew you were going to ask that.
And the doctors, who are total professionals, Walter Reed Medical Center, they're great, great people.
And I visited a soldier that was badly wounded, incredible soldier, lost his leg, and spent a lot of time with him.
I mean, great, with his mother, and it was really a very great thing.
They do a phenomenal job.
I just want to say, Walter Reed, I was there for, what, five, six hours, you were there with me.
But I took a full physical, and it came out perfecto, so that's good.
That means you've got me for a little longer.
unidentified
Wouldn't you always be willing to give up pay for those facilities to be opened if new ones were going to be built?
donald j trump
I'd do something.
We'd help them out.
They're great facilities, very strong facilities, and they don't play games.
I'd like to go a step further.
I mean, I said it to Pam.
I don't know what the laws are.
We always have to obey the laws.
But we also have homegrown criminals that push people into subways that hit elderly ladies on the back of the head with a baseball bat when they're not looking.
That are absolute monsters.
I'd like to include them in the group of people to get them out of the country, but you'll have to be looking at the laws on that staff, okay?
nick shirley
Do you think more presidents should follow suit like you guys as far as taking a hard stamp on crack or anything like that?
donald j trump
Well, I do.
I think everybody has to.
The president said it better than anybody.
He said, you know, you have liberty and you have to have liberty, but to have liberty, not everybody is going to be good.
And, you know, some are bad because they're sick.
They're mentally deranged.
They're bad.
And you have to take them.
If you're going to have a country, you're going to have to take those people out.
And we've been doing that.
But this was like an unforced era, they would call it, where we had people that may hate our country, or maybe they're just stupid people.
I think they're probably stupid people more so.
A lot of people said they did it for the vote.
But I did better with Hispanic people than they did, because they always used Hispanic.
I did better.
You people love me.
I saw my poll numbers in your country up through the roof, right?
91%.
No, no, some people think they do it for the vote.
But they don't have to do it for the vote.
They're cheap.
They're professional cheaters.
That's about the only thing they do well.
So we just have had a great relationship, and it's become bigger because of a strange thing that happened.
You know, I came back.
We had no war in Ukraine.
We had no war with, we had no October 7th Middle East problem.
We had nothing.
We had no inflation.
We didn't have the Afghanistan.
Most embarrassing moment in the history of our country, the Afghanistan, not withdrawing because I would have been out.
I had it all set to bring people out with dignity and pride.
That was the worst, most embarrassing moment in the history of our country, Afghanistan.
We didn't have any of that.
You wouldn't have had the war with Russia-Ukraine.
You wouldn't have had the Middle East problem because Iran was broke.
They had no money because we had secondary sanctions on and lots of other sanctions.
And now every single thing, got a problem with Iran, but I'll solve that problem.
That's almost an easy one.
We've got to solve a war that should have never started, Ukraine and Russia, and we'll get that solved.
And we have to solve problems, and we already solved inflation.
If you look at the numbers, the numbers are incredible, actually.
Stock market's up, and we're not letting other countries take advantage of this country like they have for the last 40 years.
So thank you very much.
You have a question, please, sir.
unidentified
Thank you, Mr. President.
Thank you so much.
You scored another major investment win this morning when India pledged to build its AI supercomputer, the first time ever right here in the United States.
Thank you.
donald j trump
That's a question I like.
It's true.
unidentified
What is your reaction to this announcement, sir?
How will it positively benefit Americans across the entire country?
donald j trump
Well, it's one of the biggest announcements you'll ever hear, because NVIDIA, as you know, controls that almost the entire sector, which is one of the most important sectors in the world, between chips and semiconductors and everything else.
And they're the biggest.
And the other biggest we already have coming in and spending $300 billion, as you know, they announced two weeks ago.
But NVIDIA is so highly respected.
And this was an announcement that a lot of people, I knew it was going to happen, but not to the extent that it happened.
It's big.
And the reason they did it is because of the election on November 5th and because of a thing called tariffs, as I said, the most beautiful word in the dictionary.
After love, God, relationship.
The press actually hit me.
I said, tariff is the most beautiful word in the dictionary.
unidentified
What about family, love, God?
donald j trump
I got hit even on that.
Do you understand?
I said, okay.
So now I say it's my fifth most favorite word because they get you on anything.
But no, it's one of the great companies of the world, modern, supermodern companies.
It controls segments that nobody, you know, sort of controls the world in a sense.
And they are coming in here in the biggest way with hundreds of billions of dollars.
Not like millions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars.
And I'm honored by it.
And I want to thank Jensen and all of the people that we deal with.
They're great people.
They're brilliant people.
And without tariffs, they wouldn't be doing it.
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Are you considering additional sanctions against Russia after their latest attack?
And do you have an update on the rate and when you might announce semiconductor?
donald j trump
I have already sanctions on Russia.
I put them there.
If you remember, Nord Stream 2, that's the big pipeline that goes through Europe.
I stopped it.
That's Russia's pipeline, the largest pipeline, I think, in the world.
It goes to Germany.
And I stopped it.
And when Biden came in, he approved it.
And then they say, oh, I'm friendly with Russia.
No, no.
Putin said, you know, if you're my friend, I'd hate to see you when you're my enemy.
I stopped the biggest economic job they ever had.
I stopped at COVID, right?
It was dead.
You know that, right?
And Biden came in and he immediately approved it.
What was that all about?
And it's a pipeline that takes care of a lot of the needs.
Now, you know, it was a very controversial thing.
But I stopped it, and Biden approved it.
Questions?
unidentified
No, not you.
Not a big answer.
Semiconductor tariffs and potentially pharmaceuticals, semiconductor tariffs, and potentially pharmaceuticals.
donald j trump
Pharmaceuticals, we're going to do.
We don't make our own drugs, our own pharmaceuticals.
We don't make our own drugs anymore.
The drug companies are in Ireland and they're in lots of other places, China.
And all I have to do is impose a tariff.
The more, the faster they move in.
The higher the tariff, it's inversely proportional.
unidentified
The higher the tariff, the faster they come.
donald j trump
And yeah, we're going to be doing that.
That's going to be like we have on cars.
We have, as you know, a 25% tariff on cars.
We have a 25% tariff on steel and aluminum.
And that's what that category fits right now.
unidentified
Do you have a percentage in mind and a timeline?
donald j trump
I have a timeline.
Yeah, not too distant future.
We're doing it because we want to make our own drugs.
We're doing it because we want to make our own steel and aluminum, lumber, other things.
And they're all coming in.
We have record numbers, $7 trillion.
Since I announced like a month and a half ago, since I came, basically, since I came in, we have over $7 trillion being invested in the country.
We didn't have $1 trillion.
We didn't have half a trillion dollars with some of these guys.
They didn't know what the hell they were doing.
So we have the largest investment that we've ever heard of, and we're only two months in.
And that'll continue at levels that you've never seen before.
That's what's going to happen.
And even the stock market's up today.
We also had, you know, a lot of people didn't say it the way it was.
We had the largest gain in the stock market in history on every single category last week.
That was a nice game because we get a little hit because people didn't understand the power of our economic, our country economically, if you use it right.
Do you have something to say on that, JD?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
I mean, look, for 40 years, we have lost manufacturing capacity.
stephen miller
Workers have seen their wages stagnate.
jd vance
And some of the most critical things that we need from the pharmaceuticals, the drugs that we give to our children, the antibiotics that we give to our kids, to the weapons that we actually need to fight a war, if, God forbid, we had to fight a war, we don't make enough of that stuff.
And so President Trump ran explicitly on changing that.
Yes, as the President mentioned, it caused a little bit of disruption in the market, but I actually think over the long term, workers are going to benefit, stocks are going to go up, American businesses are going to benefit as we reinvest and reindustrialize our country.
donald j trump
And the auto workers and the Teamsters and all of the unions, you know, not traditionally Republican, but I'm winning those unions by 40, 50 points on the Democrats.
They're losing everything.
They're losing everything because they just have policies that are not believable.
They fight for policies that are 5% popular, and nobody knows who the 5% are.
I mean, nobody can find the 5%.
But if you go back to Ohio, and by the way, we have the great championship team from Ohio coming in today, right?
unidentified
Very big day.
donald j trump
And that's going to be a little bit later.
And that'll be, if you want to stick around, you'll see some very large people, right?
You'll see some people that even you have not seen people.
These are big, these are 6'7, 380 pounds with no fat.
Okay, that's pretty good.
But the team, the national championship team, is being honored today.
So that'll be exciting.
If you're around, if you want to stay around, I'll have you up there.
You can tell them all about your prison, how you have to behave.
unidentified
Who else?
You said yesterday that you're making a decision on Iran very quickly.
What do you mean by that?
Is that a decision to strike Iran?
donald j trump
We started the problem very quickly.
Iran wants to deal with us, but they don't know how.
They really don't know how.
We had a meeting with them on Saturday.
We have another meeting scheduled next Saturday.
I said, that's a long time.
You know, that's a long time.
So I think they might be tapping us along.
But Iran has to get rid of the concept of a nuclear weapon.
They cannot have a nuclear weapon.
He can't have a nuclear weapon.
Nobody can have it.
We can't have anybody having nuclear weapons.
We can't have nuclear weapons.
And I think they're tapping us along because we're so used to dealing with stupid people in this country.
And I had Iran perfect.
You had no attacks.
You would have never had October 7th in Israel, the attack by Hamas, because Iran was broke.
They were stone cold broke when I was president.
And I don't want to do it.
I want them to be a rich, great nation.
The only thing is, one thing, simple.
It's really simple.
They can't have a nuclear weapon.
And they've got to go fast because they're fairly close to having one.
And they're not going to have one.
And if we have to do something very harsh, we'll do it.
And I'm not doing it for us.
I'm doing it for the world.
And these are radicalized people.
unidentified
Exactly.
donald j trump
And they cannot have a nuclear weapon.
unidentified
Does that include a potential strike on Iranian nuclear facilities?
donald j trump
Of course it does.
unidentified
Just a follow-up question on clarification.
You mentioned that you're open to deporting individuals that aren't foreign aliens, but criminals, to El Salvador.
Does that include potentially U.S. citizens, fully naturalized American?
donald j trump
If they're criminals, and if they hit people with baseball bats over their head that happen to be 90 years old, and if they rape 87-year-old women in Coney Island, Brooklyn, yeah, yeah, that includes them.
Why do you think there's a special category of person?
They're as bad as anybody that comes in.
We have bad ones, too.
And I'm all for it.
Because we can do things with the president for less money and have great security.
And we have a huge prison population.
We have a huge number of prisons.
And then we have the private prisons, and some are operated well, I guess, and some aren't.
But he does a great job with that.
We have others that we're negotiating with, too.
But no, if it's a homegrown criminal, I have no problem.
Now, we're studying the laws right now.
Pam is studying.
If we can do that, that's good.
And I'm talking about violent people.
I'm talking about really bad people.
Really bad people.
Every bit as bad as the ones coming in.
And I made the statement when I heard about this a long time ago now, four years ago.
When I heard that this guy was having open borders, I said, every single criminal from all over the world is going to be dumped into our country.
And that's what happened.
Jails, the jails of the Congo were emptied out.
The jails of Venezuela were emptied out.
And you know what happened?
Their crime went way down.
But now Venezuela has other problems.
You know what the problem is?
They have no money.
unidentified
Yeah.
donald j trump
Because I shut off their oil.
And we put secondary tariffs because they're not doing what's right over there.
They know what to do.
We spoke to them.
I spoke to them.
They know what to do.
But they have no money.
Venezuela has no money.
But Iran had no money.
And Iran behaved so beautifully.
And then Biden took all those secondary tariffs on tariffs on.
I told China, you can't buy oil.
If you buy oil from Iran, China.
I told it to President Xi, then we no longer want you to do business with the United States of America.
And those ships disappeared from that harbor so quickly.
unidentified
China.
donald j trump
Get along great with China.
unidentified
Are the talks of the wrong productive?
Do you want to continue that?
kaitlan collins
The talks of the RON, do you believe those are productive?
unidentified
Do you want to continue that?
donald j trump
I think Iran could be a great country as long as it doesn't have nuclear weapons.
If they have nuclear weapons, they'll never get a chance to be a great country.
They will never get a chance.
It won't even come close.
unidentified
Short tariffs?
Yeah.
Yesterday you mentioned short-lived product exemptions.
Which specific products are you considering and how long you short-lived?
At least months.
donald j trump
I'm looking at something to help some of the car companies where they're switching to parts that were made in Canada, Mexico, and other places.
And they need a little bit of time because they're going to make them here.
But they need a little bit of time.
So I'm like that.
unidentified
What about any Apple products, other cell phones?
donald j trump
Look, I'm a very flexible person.
I don't change my mind, but I'm flexible.
And you have to be.
You just can't have a wall and you'll only go.
Sometimes you have to go around it, under it, or above it.
There'll be maybe things coming up.
I speak to Tim Cook.
I helped Tim Cook recently.
And that whole business.
I don't want to hurt anybody.
But the end result is we're going to get to the position of greatness for our country.
We're the greatest economic power in the world if we're smart.
If we're not smart, we're going to hurt our country very badly.
We lost with China over the Biden years trillions of dollars on trade.
Trillions of dollars.
And he let them fleece us.
And we can't do that anymore.
And you know what?
I don't blame China at all.
I don't blame President Xi.
I like him.
He likes me.
I mean, you know, who knows?
Who the hell cares?
unidentified
Give any updates on.
donald j trump
But you know what?
What?
unidentified
Give me updates for the talks with China.
donald j trump
No, let me just tell you this.
I don't blame China.
I don't blame Vietnam.
I see them meeting today.
Is that wonderful?
That's a lovely meeting.
The meeting, like trying to figure out how do we screw the United States of America.
Don't forget, the European Union was formed to do just that.
The European Union was formed to hurt the United States on trade.
And they get us on NATO because they don't pay their bills.
But now, since I got involved, they have been paying their bills.
I took in over $600 billion for NATO.
Nobody took in anything.
I mean, they were all delinquent.
They had eight nations out of 28 paid their bills.
The rest of them were way delinquent.
And I said, if you don't pay your bills, we're not going to protect you anymore.
And the money poured in over 600.
The Secretary General last week made that statement.
He said, I've never seen anything like it.
We couldn't get anybody to pay because the United States was putting the bill for NATO.
Well, we got hurt there, and we got hurt on trade, likewise, European Union.
And they've got to come to the table.
And they're trying to.
They're trying to.
But the European Union has taken terrible advantage.
They don't take our food products.
They don't take our cars.
We have millions of their cars, BMW, Volkswagen, Mercedes-Benz, many others.
They come in by the millions, they don't take...
There are no Chevrolets in Munich, I can tell you that.
I said to Angela Merkel when she was there, and she was letting millions of people infiltrate Germany, which was not so good from, we would call them illegal immigrants, but she made them legal.
But I said to her, and I get along with her very well, I said, how many Chevrolets do we have in Munich or Frankfurt?
Why, none, Donald.
None.
I said, you're right.
And yet we take in millions and millions of cars.
No, those days are over.
Okay.
Thank you very much, everybody.
unidentified
Thank you, Peters.
Thank you, Rez.
Mr. Brother, did you comment on the FPC's case against March 7th?
Thank you, Pets.
Thank you.
Maybe friends.
Let's go.
donald j trump
Thank you, thank you.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thanks, guys.
Good to see you.
Good to know what it was.
Good to see you.
This Friday on a special edition of Ceasefire, host Dasha Burns features key moments from Ceasefire's inaugural season, highlighting moments of friendship and humor, respectful disagreement, Tim's someone who, even when he disagrees, vehemently disagrees, Tim makes friends across the aisle with everyone.
john curtis
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unidentified
And even common ground from our ideologically diverse group of guests throughout the season.
mike pence
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kevin stitt
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I think it's really good for Americans to see that we don't always disagree, that we actually like each other, we can agree on some things.
dr cornel west
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unidentified
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