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Dec. 3, 2025 20:02-21:01 - CSPAN
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POTUS Pres. Trump Announces New Fuel Economy Standards

President Donald Trump reverses Biden’s CAFE standards, calling them "ridiculously burdensome" and citing $70B auto investments—Ford’s $5B for 4,000 jobs, Stellantis’ $13B expansion, GM’s $4B repatriation—while claiming tariffs saved consumers $1,000 per car. Supporters like Cruz and Kelly argue the rules compromised safety with lightweight designs and favored EVs over practical vehicles. Trump dismisses Biden’s inflation claims, touts military drug interdiction successes, and criticizes Ukraine’s peace talks, Venezuela’s Maduro, and Minnesota’s Somali community, including Ilhan Omar. He defends Quayar’s pardon and hints at renegotiating USMCA, framing tariffs as vital for jobs, debt, and security amid legal battles. [Automatically generated summary]

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donald j trump
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brian glenn
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kevin hassett
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marsha blackburn
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roger williams
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sean duffy
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shelley moore capito
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ted cruz
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bernie moreno
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eric schmitt
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End The Gasoline Car Mandate 00:05:27
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President Trump announced a plan to cut fuel efficiency standards for cars that were implemented under the Biden administration.
From the Obal Office, the President also weighed in on talks between Russia and Ukraine, the situation in Venezuela, and Somali immigrants in Minnesota.
donald j trump
Well, we're talking about cafe standards.
Very big deal, very important today.
My administration has taken historic action to lower costs for American consumers, protect American auto jobs, and make buying a car much more affordable for countless American families and also safer.
We're officially terminating Joe Biden's ridiculously burdensome, horrible, actually, cafe standards that imposed expensive restrictions and all sorts of problems, gave all sorts of problems to automakers.
And we're not only talking about here, we're talking about outside of our country, because nobody could do it.
Nobody wanted to do it, and it was ridiculous, very expensive.
It put tremendous upward pressure on car prices, combined with the insane electric vehicle mandate.
Biden's burdensome regulations helped cause the price of cars to soar more than 25%.
And in one case, they went up 18% in one year.
Today we're taking one more step to kill the Green News scam.
It's part of the greatest scam, probably, well, other than Russia, Russia, Russia, and a few others I could name.
The greatest scam in American history, the Green News scam.
And it's a quest to end the gasoline-powered car.
This is what they wanted to do, even though we have more gasoline than any other country by far.
And people want the gasoline car.
They want everything.
They want electric.
They want any.
They want to have lots of alternatives.
But they do want the gasoline car.
Right now, it's leading away by a lot.
The car business is a very interesting business, but we want to keep it that way.
I want to thank Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, Deputy Transportation Secretary Stephen Bradbury, as well as CEO of Ford Jim Farley.
Jim, where is Jim?
Let's see.
Hey, Jim, congratulations.
You're doing a great job.
CEO of Stellantis, Antonio Filosa.
Thank you very much, Antonio.
Chairman of the National Automobile Dealers Association, Tom Castrido.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
Thank you very much, Tom.
donald j trump
Great to have you.
And manager of General Motors Orient Plant, John Urbanek.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
Thank you, sir.
donald j trump
Great to have you guys here.
You're going to say a few words in a minute about how ridiculous this was, but we've just freed you up.
So you're going to have a good day.
You're going to have a good number of years.
Thanks as well to Senators Shelly Moore Capito, Ted Cruz, Kevin Kramer, Marsha Blackburn, Eric Schmidt, and Bernie Marino, as well as Representative Sam Graves, Vern Buchanan, Mike Kelly, Roger Williams, Lisa McLean, and Troy Balderson.
All great people.
These are great people.
And I know there's a lot of support long beyond the people that are here.
We've had tremendous support on this.
From day one, I've been taking action to make buying a car more affordable.
I signed an executive order to end the unfair, expensive electric vehicle mandate.
As you know, we had to have an electric car within a very short period of time, even though there was no way of charging them and lots of other things.
It would have cost $5 trillion to build the charging plants.
And as you know, in certain parts of the Midwest, they spent to build nine chargers, they spent $8 billion.
So that wasn't working out too well.
That was done before me, by the way.
I wouldn't have let it go forward.
We're canceling the EPA's absurd tailpipe emission standards, one of the most important things that I've never had a group of people come to me more powerfully and really just devastated that they had to do it.
It was killing them than the automobile manufacturers, the tailpipe emission standards.
And I can tell you, your people at Ford were coming to me all the time, and they were saying, like, please, it doesn't do anything and it's killing us.
And it's driving the cost through the roof.
And we revoked Biden's emissions waiver for California so that California communists could not regulate the automobile industry and ruin the entire nation of automobiles.
And they were doing that too.
But we have that now under control also with your governor, who's got much more than he can control.
Now under the new rules being issued today by Secretary Duffy, the Department of Transportation will rescind the Biden fuel economy prices.
Investing in American Autos 00:15:20
donald j trump
And I hate to say that because they were really not economy.
They were really, they were anti-economy.
They were horrible what they were doing to the costs and actually making the car much worse.
But these policies forced automakers to build cars using expensive technologies that drove up costs, drove up prices, and made the car much worse.
The action is expected to save the typical consumer at least $1,000 off the price of a new car, and we think substantially more than that.
Under the Trump administration, $70 billion are now being invested in the American auto industry.
Ford has announced it will invest $5 billion across its Kentucky and Michigan plants.
Is that a correct statement?
unidentified
That's right.
donald j trump
That's a lot, $5 billion.
You could do more.
Creating at least 4,000 new jobs.
Stellantis announced that it will invest $13 billion to expand its U.S.-based manufacturing by more than 50% and open new manufacturing facilities across the country.
And I think a big part of that is also the tariffs.
Because of tariffs, they're coming in.
Not only the automobile industry, AI, we're leading China in AI, we're leading everybody in AI, we're leading everybody in everything.
We have the hottest country right now.
unidentified
I will tell you, a lot of political people behind me, great political people, very successful political people.
donald j trump
We have the hottest country anywhere in the world.
One year ago, we had a dead country, and now we have the hottest country anywhere in the world.
And it started from November 5th, but it also started when we did the tariffs, and we've had tremendous support on the tariffs.
It's bringing in trillions of dollars of wealth.
It's bringing in national security.
And I've stopped eight wars, and of the eight wars, five of them have been because of tariffs and trade.
So they're very important.
And General Motors plans to invest $4 billion as it brings its manufacturing back to the United States from Mexico.
After falling by 5% under Biden, U.S. auto production has surged by 10% so far this year.
You know, I won the autoworkers vote, but now even the head of the autoworker said Trump is the greatest president we've ever seen.
And he happens to be right about that.
But we're protecting our auto workers and we're making it easier for every family to afford high-quality cars.
In other words, we're bringing automobiles back and the manufacturing of automobiles back into this country.
We lost 52% over the years, 52% of our automobile manufacturer.
You see it, closed factories all over the place.
Now they're all opening up.
They're being, in most cases, being knocked down and new ones are being built in that place.
And a big beneficiary is the state of Michigan, but South Carolina, even states that didn't really do too much with the automobiles, they're opening up plants.
It's been amazing.
So between automobile plants, AI plants, and plants of every other nation, really every other type, including chips, we're going to have a big percentage of the chip market very soon, not because of the CHIPS Act, which was horrible and ridiculous, where we just gave these companies billions and billions of dollars.
They just kept the money, but because of what we did with tariffs.
They have to build here, otherwise they're going to have to pay tariffs.
They won't be able to do business in the United States.
And we are bringing, we're going to have a big percentage of the chip industry.
As of about a year ago, two years ago, we had none.
And now we're going to have a very big percentage when it all finishes out.
So I'd like to ask Secretary Duffy to speak, and then Mr. Farley, and then Felosa and Urbanek and Castrida.
And also we're going to ask some of our political leaders to speak because let me tell you, they went out of their way.
This was not easy.
People were brainwashed.
This is a green new scam.
And people were paying too much for a car that didn't work as well.
And now they're going to have a great car that's going to be environmentally friendly, but it's going to cost you a lot less and it's going to work great.
All of the nonsense is being taken out of the cars.
So Secretary Duffy, could you say a few minutes?
sean duffy
Thank you, Mr. President.
So yesterday at the cabinet meeting, the President was talking about affordability and the way that Democrats talk about affordability is a lie.
Today is a perfect example of that.
So these cafe standards used what was contrary to the law of the Congress set a rule that says you have to look at combustion engines.
Biden and Buttigiege actually did an analysis using Edge Edge used EVs and hybrids to come up with a 62 mile an hour per gallon standard, which I think the car companies will tell you is completely unattainable.
So they spent a lot of money on technology trying to meet the unattainable standard, driving up the cost of a car, number one.
And then number two, if they couldn't meet the unattainable standard, they had to trade for carbon, costing billions of dollars and again driving up the price of the cars.
Mr. President, what Democrats were doing, we're not making cars more affordable.
They're making them less affordable.
The consequence of that is going to be that more Americans can afford to buy a new car, which means they're going to be safer on the roads because of all the great new technology we have that save lives.
So we'll have less death on American roads.
These rules are going to allow the automakers to make vehicles that Americans want to purchase, not vehicles that Joe Biden and Buttig want them to build, which is important.
But also, this is important for American jobs.
The more cars we sell, the more jobs we have in this country.
And so this is jobs, this is freedom, and this is common sense, Mr. President.
So thank you for your leadership.
And I appreciate what the Senate did with the Big Beautiful Bill and what we've done here today.
So thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
donald j trump
Big, beautiful bill is something.
It's amazing.
Wait till the people see the benefits and the lower taxes that they're going to have, lower regulations.
So, how about Ford?
unidentified
Mr. President and Secretary, all the important lawmakers here, competitors, today is a victory of common sense and affordability.
We're very proud of Ford to be the number one auto producer in our country.
80% of the vehicles we sell here we make in our country.
And we never left, unlike many of our competitors.
We're the number one exporter, and we have the most factory auto factory workers.
And this cafe standard that is aligned with customer demand is the right move for a lot of reasons.
We were number two last year in EV sales.
We were number three in hybrid.
And we're the leading brand for combustion.
We believe that people should be able to make a choice, as you said, Mr. President.
And we will invest more in affordable vehicles.
This allows us to invest in affordable vehicles made in the U.S., which we will take the lead on and will allow us to make vehicles more affordable.
So thank you for making this step for all of you.
donald j trump
Thank you very much.
One of the other things we're doing, it's separate from this meeting, but I think everybody here would agree with it.
If you go to Japan, where I just left, and if you go to South Korea and Malaysia and other countries, they have a very small car, sort of like the Beetle used to be with the Volkswagen.
They're very small, they're really cute.
And I said, how would that do in this country?
And everyone seems to think good, but you're not allowed to build them.
And I've authorized the Secretary to immediately approve the production of those cars so you'll be able to buy the, they really are, they're actually, some of them are really beautiful, actually.
If you take a look, Honda, some of the Japanese companies do a beautiful job, but we're not allowed to make them in this country.
And I think you're going to do very well with those cars.
So we're going to approve those cars.
unidentified
Would you like to say something about that?
sean duffy
He never stops working.
So even when it's on Asian time, he's calling me at midnight in the States.
But he gave me the directive to clear the regulations on this, which we have.
And so if Toyota or any other company wants to make smaller, more affordable cars fuel efficient, we have cleared the deck so they can make them in America and sell them in America.
donald j trump
They're really nice and less expensive.
And it really gives people a chance to have a car, have a brand new car as opposed to a car that maybe isn't so great.
And so you car companies start thinking about that.
I think it's going to be a tremendous market.
Please, would you like to say something?
unidentified
Thank you, Mr. President.
It's a great day for us at Stellantis today because it's the day where we see CAFE regulation reconciled with real customers demand.
That's why at Stellantis we decided to invest through Jeep, Gram, Dodge, and Chrysler, $13 billion in the next four years, increasing production by 50%, delivering to the market five new vehicles and creating 5,000 additional jobs.
That's because we believe in what you, Secretary Taffy, and all your team is doing in this country.
We believe in growth.
We are ready to invest even more.
So thank you very much.
Thank you very much also for this great news of the key cars, which we are very interested in.
Thank you.
And we are very looking forward to working with Secretary Daffey in the future for the next decks.
Thank you very much.
donald j trump
We'll get ready for those cars because we've already cleared the way.
You can start right away.
unidentified
We will.
Thank you very much.
donald j trump
Thank you very much.
Please.
unidentified
Mr. President, thank you so much for having me.
Thank you very much.
We support your leadership for this issue that is so important to the auto industry.
I'm here representing the hardworking men and women of Oregon Assembly in Michigan.
The facility, our manufacturing facility there is currently going through a retool so that we can build additional U.S. manufactured pickup trucks and full-size power utilities for our customers and we're so excited about that.
Thank you for your support.
Secretary Duffy, thank you as well.
donald j trump
And this is largely coming in because of the tariff situation.
We're taking in trillions of dollars, actually, trillions, and we have so many other advantages.
But these great companies are coming back to the United States.
They left the United States.
If somebody was sitting behind this desk that knew what they were doing, that wouldn't have happened.
They would have said, well, you can sell your car here, but we're going to put 100% tariff.
And you would have never had the auto industry leave.
Again, we lost more than 50% of our auto industry.
And now it's all coming back.
And I think it's coming back.
Ultimately, it's going to be bigger.
I believe it's going to be bigger than it was before, actually.
But it's an honor to have you here.
And please, would you like to see this president?
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Tom Campfrieda, sir, I'm the chairman of National Automobile Dealers that represent 18,000 dealers in the country, along with 3,000 heavy-duty truck dealers.
And the actions that you've done as the president and your administration is definitely going to save our customers money.
And you made your promises that let the consumer buy what they want, sir, and you deliver on that.
And the other thing that you delivered was your promise in the big, beautiful bill, the tax deduction on loans that had gone away some years back.
And now that makes it affordable for our buyers that can save money through that loan of the tax, anywhere from several hundred to several thousand.
So again, sir, on behalf of all the dealers and our customers, we appreciate what you and your administrator have done, and of course our legislative support as well, Mr. President.
Thank you.
donald j trump
That's very nice.
And I'm glad you brought that up.
We're allowing people to deduct.
So if you go out and buy a car, and this is for middle income, but for lower income, no matter what, they never really had deductions.
You know, rich people like deductions, but middle-income people would never really afford deductions, which is very unfair.
You borrow money to buy a car, you're allowed to deduct the interest from your income tax.
And I think that's going to be one of the most, in terms of your industry, I think it's going to be the biggest thing that we're talking about, maybe even bigger than CAFE standards.
People are going to be able to borrow money, deduct it.
So it's going to cost them essentially half.
And they'll be...
unidentified
It'll help.
Yes, sir.
donald j trump
I think it's going to be a tremendous factory.
They've never had a chance to do that before.
And that's all done.
That's all in the Great Big Beautiful Bill.
So it's really terrific.
I'd like to ask a couple of our political leaders to say, because you guys have done an amazing job.
This was something that was going to be very tough.
We had to fight lunatics to get it done.
And they had no answers.
You know, you just present them with the facts, and they just say, well, we're just not going to vote for it.
They couldn't talk about it, but they didn't want to vote.
I see Mike Kelly, my friend back there, who's been with me from day one.
What do you have to say, Mike?
unidentified
Well, you know what?
I think you hit the key.
Everybody's talking about the same thing.
You in America.
donald j trump
They live the way they like each other.
There's no hatred between these two guys.
unidentified
Why does that beat his price if we're president?
You get a pay on ahead.
The American people have always been able to choose what they want to buy.
They don't want to be taken out of the market by people who, quite frankly, don't even drive their own car and saying, this is the way you've got to go going into the future.
And say, well, you may say that, but you're not in the market.
You have no idea.
And I know the business we're in.
At the end of the day, if you were there with me on sale, say, Mr. President, other than price, what's keeping you from taking the car home today?
It's always price.
The fact that we can build a car that's affordable, that people want to buy, that's the key to it.
What you've done is unlock the most ridiculous statute that ever came in with CAFA.
It wasn't done by the Congress.
It was done by President Obama after the courts failed on it.
So thank you for doing what you're doing.
You're making America great again in every single way.
Thank you.
donald j trump
Thank you.
It's going to be so big for the auto manufacturers.
People aren't even going to believe the impact this has.
You know, Mike used to come to my rallies all the time.
We'd have a rally.
It was like zero degrees.
It was freezing everywhere.
And he'd sit there without a shirt on.
And I didn't need that.
unidentified
I didn't say it was pretty, but people sit there and called and he didn't mind it at all.
donald j trump
I said, that's one tough cookie, right?
unidentified
You lit it up.
We didn't need anything.
donald j trump
We had a good time.
We had a lot of great rallies in Pennsylvania.
Please, Mr. Congressman.
roger williams
Thank you, Mr. President.
I represent the dealer.
I'm a dealer, and we've got some other dealers in here, but this is huge for the dealer body, the local car dealer.
We're going to be able to sell what the customer wants.
The manufacturer is going to make what the customer wants.
We've got all kinds of options to the big bill.
It's going to enable people, as we talked about, to deduct payments and so forth.
As we say in the business, they've never been cheaper than they are today, Mr. President.
Affordability Revolution 00:15:29
roger williams
And it's going to be a great opportunity for the dealer body to sell what consumers want.
And 99% of the businesses in America are small businesses.
Many are car dealers, employ a lot of people.
It's going to be a great year for us.
We appreciate your leadership.
We appreciate, from a retail standpoint, we appreciate the manufacturers going to step up and build cars that customers want and that we want to sell.
So thank you very much.
It makes it a great country.
donald j trump
He's also a very brave congressman because he was there on the baseball field that horrible day with Steve Scalisa and some other people.
He was hit, but he took it very well.
He took it very well.
You're my pal.
unidentified
Thank you.
donald j trump
That's a great job.
unidentified
Appreciate it.
donald j trump
Great job.
Appreciate it.
Kevin, could you say a few words of wisdom?
One of the really smart economic forecasters, I will tell you, beyond an economist.
He's a real forecast.
unidentified
Please.
kevin hassett
Sir, I think that there's a massive macroeconomic benefit to what we're doing today.
And the way to think about it is that the car that has the best gas mileage that you could buy that has all the gasoline is a Honda.
I think that's about 36 miles per gallon.
Joe Biden wanted to make every car on average be above 50.
So there's no car made in the U.S. that you would be able to sell two years from now, three years from now, under that rule.
Because what he wanted to do was make everybody have an electric car, as you know.
But here's the thing.
If everybody had an electric car, then nobody would be buying gasoline anymore, and they'd have to take all the miles that they travel and put it on the grid.
And so we would have to increase the production of electricity in the U.S. by 25% over the next couple of years if they had their way.
And so you've really stopped a massive disruption for the economy with this.
unidentified
So thank you, sir.
donald j trump
And that wasn't the main reason, and yet it certainly is a main reason.
You wouldn't have been able to do it even if you wanted.
It's just so crazy.
That was the mandate, which we ended.
Troy, would you like to say something?
unidentified
Great honor.
Thank you.
My family is a former dealer, 48 years, Chrysler Dodge dealer.
And then I got into the political world, sir.
I had more fun in the dealership world, but I miss it.
But I still play a big role in automobiles and grateful.
I remember under President Obama when the cafe standards changed, as Mike brought up, and going through those challenging times at the Chrysler dealer before Stellantis came along.
It was Dimer before you guys got it.
So thank you very much for being here and making these changes.
And as you said, that interest on the car loan piece was big.
And I know that Bernie led the charge on that in the Senate and getting the one big, beautiful bill.
That really is a big deal, and people need to understand how big a deal that is.
I do.
donald j trump
Great job.
And by the way, we had a great victory last night.
unidentified
We'll do it.
Yes.
donald j trump
That's going to be great.
unidentified
Kind of like our race.
donald j trump
He's going to be a great congressman.
unidentified
I think so.
Really.
donald j trump
Like us, right?
unidentified
Yeah, I think like us.
donald j trump
One of my early endorsements, right?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
donald j trump
Can we talk about it?
Right there, Zip Man.
Come in.
Let me say hello to you.
Please, go ahead.
unidentified
Thank you, Mr. President, for your leadership.
But the thing I've admired most, you've been in business, you've been in the battles over the years, and you're helping us lead us out.
Most people that are up here have no idea about business or small business.
It makes a big difference.
One is, number two is, I would just say in terms of the tax stuff we're talking about, one of the things that get missed, and I'm in Florida, Sarasota region, is the ability to deduct.
Most people have a small business, they'll have a lawn business, they'll have this, that, they buy a newer used truck.
They can take that deduction, let's say they're in a 20% tax bracket, but the vehicle's 60 grand, they can take 20% of the 60 grand, get a $12,000 write-off.
They can pay their payments for the first year.
That's a powerful tool we don't talk about.
I don't know why.
But at the end of the day, because of what you've put in place, full expensing, that's the tool they would use.
And you could just think about all the people in Florida, just general places.
They're buying old vans or new vans or buying trucks, mainly trucks, and they're getting a deduction.
They don't even have a payment for a year.
donald j trump
That's right.
unidentified
So one of the best things for Ford's.
donald j trump
One of the biggest things.
unidentified
Yeah, expensing is a powerful tool.
They can write the whole asset off the first year, take that deduction, put $12,000 in their pocket on a $20,000.
Let me mention one other thing.
They got into the e-vehicles, electric cars.
And I'm talking to dealers that come in and come in and talk to me.
And basically, they couldn't sell one.
They couldn't give one away.
And when these companies, or they got in because of whatever political pressure under the Biden administration, and they end up realizing that they got no market, a guy says, the car's been sitting there a year.
I can't get rid of it.
So they don't understand the market.
The people who produce the vehicles, and that's made a big difference in your leadership.
But thanks for what you're doing here today.
It's big.
It's huge.
It'll make a big difference.
$12,000 on a $60,000 vehicle up front day one.
Thank you.
donald j trump
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Yeah.
donald j trump
You know, we're just talking about something that's interesting.
Ford would make, and I don't want to speak for Ford because we have one of the top people right now.
unidentified
Mr. President is fine if you want to be a top Ford.
donald j trump
Ford would make numerous electric cars in order to sell one Ford 150.
That's right.
Because they'd make all their money with the 150.
unidentified
Yes.
donald j trump
And they were willing to lose money on building two or three electric cars that they couldn't sell in order to make some money on the 150.
Because the 150 is a monster.
I'll tell you what.
No matter where you go, they love that Ford 150.
But isn't it a ridiculous model when you have to build two or three cars that you know you're not going to be selling or not be selling for much in order to really do something that you should have the right to do, which is make a car that you want to make.
unidentified
Yes.
donald j trump
And that the market wants, right?
So congratulations on the 150.
unidentified
Thank you.
Best selling vehicle in the United States.
It's 100% built in the United States.
donald j trump
So now it's all I'm going to do.
No, but it really is.
It's amazing.
It's an amazing brand.
unidentified
There was a lot of stupid things out of here.
shelley moore capito
Yeah, thank you, Mr. President, and Secretary Duffy and all of us.
You know, one of the last times I was here was when you signed the Electric Vehicle CRA Congressional Review Act that all of us participated in.
The beginning of really making common sense because it was going to impact 17 other states and really a large part of our economy.
This is about affordability here.
I'm just going to say one thing.
Well, maybe I already said one thing, so now I'm going to say two things.
When we talk about a car and auto, we sort of talk about just, oh, we need a car.
Do you know what a car does for a family?
You can take your children to school, you can go to the store, you can visit your mother, you can go to church, you can have a job, you have the flexibility that you need.
A car for an American family is about a roadway to prosperity.
donald j trump
It's a big deal.
shelley moore capito
It's a big deal.
And so by making them more affordable, making them more choice-driven by what families want and need, today is a great day for the American family.
unidentified
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And for the American worker.
marsha blackburn
Well, thank you, Mr. President, and Secretary Duffy, and to my colleagues that are here.
In Tennessee, we make great automobiles, and we have a fantastic workforce.
And whether you're GM or Ford with their new investment in Tennessee or Nissan or VW or Toyota with the engine plant, what you see is the components that are necessary to build these cars.
And removing these standards and making cars more affordable does mean that more people will purchase them, but it also means we're going to have to make more cars to meet that demand.
And for Tennessee, that is a great thing.
donald j trump
So, you know, I'm just sitting here and thinking, like, we have the biggest auto manufacturers in the world.
They're talking about investing billions and they're investing it as we speak, but billions and billions of dollars in our country.
Thank you very much.
And they hear, they're not like, well, maybe we'll do it.
They're doing it because of tariffs.
And they're doing it because of maybe they like the president.
And we're doing things like this for them, which frankly, no matter who you are, this should be done.
And we're doing things like deductibility of interest when you borrow money to buy a car.
You're allowed to deduct it from your income tax.
That is a massive tax cut for people that probably are going to be trying to buy that car anyway.
And I really think that that interest factor is going to be one of the biggest things.
I was proud of that because I thought of it and it seems so simple.
Other people are allowed big interest.
If you're a rich person, you're allowed to have big interest deductions for different things you do.
But if you're a middle-income person who has to buy a car, you were never entitled to anything.
And now you're getting a full interest deduction on the loan.
And I think that's going to have one of the biggest impacts.
But we're here with companies that are investing tens of billions of dollars in our country as we speak.
It's not going to be in two years or three years.
A lot of it's because of the expensing provision in the bill, the big beautiful bill.
But a miracle is happening in our country.
It's a miracle.
This is just the auto industry, but we have other industries where it's the same thing.
They're building all over our country.
And something, this is a revolution is happening.
It's a business revolution.
It's a jobs revolution.
It's a car revolution.
We're bringing back the car industry that was stolen from us because we have people that didn't know what they were doing sitting at this desk.
And they put the wrong people in because they weren't advised properly.
And this is really an incredible thing that's happening.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Well, thank you, Mr. President.
And I think in many respects, pretty much everything that could be said has been, except that I think what Kevin talks about in terms of the cascading economic opportunity from this one single event is just the tip of the iceberg.
When you think of all the rules and regulations that you have repealed, I think it's more important, frankly, than the tax cuts.
However, in the Working Family Tax Cuts Act, remember we made permanent a lot of really good policy from the first Trump era, not the least of which for small businesses is bonus depreciation, the opportunity to depreciate the year that you purchase an F-150 for your small business or a large truck for your farm.
I just think we're going to roll into 2026 and we're going to see an escalation of economic opportunity, the likes of which I probably have never seen.
donald j trump
I think nobody's ever seen it, nobody in the world, because there's never been 18 or whatever it ends up being.
In 10 months, we have $18 trillion being invested.
We never had $1 trillion being invested.
And Biden had much less than that.
Think of it.
He had less than a trillion over four years.
We have $18 trillion in 10 months.
And it's actually as of nine months.
So there's never been a thing.
Eric?
eric schmitt
Mr. President.
unidentified
Thank you.
eric schmitt
And on behalf of the people of the great state of Missouri, who we actually make things from F-15s to F-47s now, thanks to you.
We'll be building the F-47 and then F-150s.
And those are real jobs.
And we make things in Missouri.
This is going to go a long way, I think, for making things more affordable for normal people.
Nothing could be more American than driving a car on a highway.
And this is going to make that more accessible for more people.
So thanks for your leadership.
donald j trump
The new state's doing a great job.
eric schmitt
Yeah, but they love you, too.
donald j trump
It's a great place.
Thank you.
Please.
unidentified
Thank you, Mr. President.
I'm going to talk to you in just a minute from a rural perspective, because these cafe standards were absolutely unworkable in rural Missouri.
We need vehicles that are practical and affordable and can haul for small businesses, for agriculture.
And it just simply didn't work.
Those cafe standards didn't work.
So I applaud you, Secretary Duffy, for your hard work and what you're doing on behalf of rural America.
donald j trump
Ploto is keeping a lot of manufacturers out of our country, too.
They said, we're not going to, are you crazy?
They thought outside manufacturers thought we were absolutely insane with all of the different things and just made up nonsense.
It was like made up.
It was really made up by people that hate our country.
Does anybody else have anything to say?
unidentified
I'd say two quick things, Mr. President.
Two quick things I think are really important.
So the person who sat behind this desk before you gave $7,500 in subsidies to multi-millionaires who are leasing electric Rolls-Royces, electric Porsches, electric Lamborghinis.
We're getting $7,500 from the taxpayer.
And these Democrats sit on this floor and say that Republicans are for millionaires and billionaires.
We are the opposite of giving $7,500 to multi-billionaires, at least foreign electric vehicles.
Number two, because of your policies, at the beginning of the year, 51% of the cars made, sold in America were made in America, 51%, before you got sworn in.
Last month, that number was 57%.
We moved it six points, which nobody thought would be possible in four years.
We did it in 10 months.
That's something that maybe the news should cover a little bit more.
And we've driven down the price of automobiles.
The car prices for consumers are down before you did it.
donald j trump
Just about everything is down.
You know, this whole thing is, they use the word affordability.
It's a Democrat hoax.
They're the ones that drove the prices up.
And all they do is say, affordability, and you're supposed to say, oh, that means they had low prices.
No, we inherited the worst inflation in the history of our country.
They say 48 years, but let's say that's history.
I don't believe that.
Biden had, because of his stupid ways and his, between his energy policies and his spending policies, we had the worst inflation in the history of our country.
And now our prices are coming down.
And they're coming down for cars, and they're coming down.
I mean, did you hear yesterday when Chris Wright from Energy, the head of energy in our country, said there are now parts of our country, parts, it's all happening, $1.99 for gasoline a gallon.
unidentified
That's that crazy.
donald j trump
And we have it at $2.50, $260.
It was at $5.
And that's bigger than any tax cut we could give.
You know, for the average family, that's considered bigger than any tax cut.
So the word affordability, when they mention it, you ever watch them?
It's all about, I saw the young lady that lost last night, she lost by a lot more than they thought, and we have a great new candidate in Congress, really great Matt Van Epps.
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donald j trump
But I saw last night, she said, it's all about affordability, all about it, they never talk about like the specifics.
Everything was through the roof.
Eggs, when I took over, eggs were four times higher than they ever were.
We got the prices down to the lowest level.
I mean, amazing.
But they never, you got to watch, they're great con people.
It's like the Inflation Reduction Act.
And after they got it approved, because everybody said inflation reduction, they admitted it had nothing to do with reducing inflation.
It's a conjugate.
I think affordability is the greatest conjugate.
They look at you and they say, affordability.
They don't say anything else.
Everyone says, oh, their prices were so low.
unidentified
No.
donald j trump
They had the worst inflation.
We had the highest prices we ever had.
And now they're all coming down, including beef is coming down.
Beef was up there a little bit.
Our ranchers did well, but we've got to make them do a little bit less well, perhaps.
But the beef is now coming down.
Coffee is now coming down.
It's all coming down.
And it's a beautiful thing to see.
But remember this, when they use the word affordability, they just say, they never say anything else.
This election's about affordability.
And then they go on to the next subject.
It's a conjugate.
They caused the highest prices, the history of our country, the worst inflation in the history of our country.
And we're getting those prices down.
And they're coming down rapidly.
And you'll see those results very soon.
Anybody else want to say a few words?
Oh, Ted, Ted, I can't believe it.
ted cruz
I'm easy to miss.
unidentified
I don't see that.
donald j trump
It's very rare that I would miss that.
Go ahead, Ted.
ted cruz
Well, Mr. President, I want to congratulate you on behalf of everyone here for the leadership that you're showing.
And this is a victory today for consumers.
This is a victory for affordability.
Your critics like to say the word affordability under Joe Biden and the Democrats.
They put mandate after mandate after mandate on cars and trucks, and they drove the price up thousands and thousands of dollars.
And with the actions you're taking today, and you put on top of that the one big beautiful bill, you know, most of the senators here on the Senate Commerce Committee and on the Commerce Committee, we worked together to zero out the CAFE standards.
We wrote that into the law that the CAFE standards went to zero.
What does that mean?
It means you can now, as a consumer, buy the car you want.
It also means people's lives will be safer because what these regulations did is they forced cars to be more expensive and made of plastic instead of steel because you had to make them lighter to comply with these standards so you'd get in a wreck and people would die.
The result of what you're doing, you're literally saving people's lives and you're making it where families can afford to get a new car.
These actions will drop the cost of cars and trucks thousands of dollars.
That makes a real difference.
And I'll make one final point.
You know, about half the members here are car dealers.
And I will say my good friend Roger Williams out in the lobby.
He tried to sell me a car, which didn't surprise me.
But I just want to give props to Mike Kelly.
He showed he was savvier because he tried to sell you a car and you can afford a much nicer car than I can.
So well done, Mike Roger.
You just went to the wrong customer.
roger williams
That was $100 cheaper.
donald j trump
The thing that Ted just said, it's true.
Plastic instead of steel.
Think of that.
And people died because of that.
The plastic was plastic in an auto accident.
Then it broke up and people were shattered because of that crazy deal.
But it's a really good point.
Go ahead.
ted cruz
And Mr. President, I'll tell you, the Senate Commerce Committee on January 14th, we're going to have a hearing with all of the big three there and Tesla.
And the entire hearing is going to focus on how your leadership has reduced the burdens on car makers.
That's lowering costs.
That's giving consumers more choices and it's producing more jobs in America.
And it's highlighted, that's a real record of success.
donald j trump
Yeah, well, we're really, it's an honor.
And, you know, they were going by California.
We had like two different countries, California and 15 that followed California, because you had 15 states followed California.
And the rules from California were just like everything else.
That's why people are leaving.
That's why it's such a mess.
It's got such, there's a state with such unbelievable potential.
But what they did with the car industry is incredible.
And that was, you know, the car companies didn't know what to do because they had two standards and you can't build two different cars for the same country.
And what we're doing today is very big.
Would anybody like to say something?
Would you like to say something, my friend?
unidentified
I just want to say thank you.
donald j trump
And we love you, Brian.
brian glenn
Oh, I love you, too, Mr. President.
donald j trump
I've always said he's a good man.
brian glenn
Well, I appreciate that.
I've always said you've tackled the three M's, mortgage, munchkins, and marriage.
You've solidified all of those.
I'll add motor vehicles to that now.
My question, I've got one about consumer confidence.
We just came off on a record high Black Friday, up 9.1%.
donald j trump
That's the highest ever, biggest amount ever purchased in one day.
brian glenn
Which I think counters this narrative of affordability, because apparently the Americans are spending money.
So I want to see how do you view that for a consumer confidence being so high, going into Christmas and going into next year?
And I do have one for the auto group after you.
donald j trump
I just think that we have tremendous confidence in the country.
You know, one of the things in terms of confidence, when if you go back a year and a half, you know, it's amazing we're like into 10 months already, but you go back a little bit before the election, because after November 5th, it started changing rapidly, even though we weren't running it until January 25th.
But when you look back and you look at the enlistment of soldiers, people that wanted to join the military, the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard, it's like booming.
It's all Space Force.
But we had a very, very, we had the worst recruitment in the history of our country.
A year later, we have the greatest recruitment in the history.
You can't even get in.
Getting in is like getting into a top college that you couldn't get in.
People want to be in the service now, and that includes the police, environment, other things.
You couldn't hire police.
You couldn't hire anybody in the Army or the Navy.
You couldn't get people in.
And we now have gone from that to record recruitment.
And we're getting high-quality people, amazing people, wanting to be in the military.
They have a spirit now.
Call it what you want, but that's part of it.
But they have great spirit now.
It's a great thing.
Go ahead, ask your second question.
brian glenn
Okay, my second question, I've got a lot of close family friends that are in the automotive business, own dealerships all across Southern California.
They sent me a question to ask you.
There's a thing called a mileage blocker that is installed on vehicles.
It's a type of a computer chip, which alters the actual mileage driven on the vehicle so that when you have a leased vehicle that's turned in, they're losing thousands of dollars.
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brian glenn
They've got to go chase down these manufacturers.
What can we do to track down these manufacturers of this illegal computer chip that's really hurting automotive engineers?
donald j trump
Have you heard about this?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
They're getting built in China, and most of them are coming out of Great Britain, sir.
They're being distributed through China, through distributors, selling them online through Great Britain, yes, sir.
donald j trump
Wow, that's so good.
What do you think?
unidentified
Oh, look at that.
donald j trump
You, Bernie, do you know anything about that?
bernie moreno
It works on older vehicles, and obviously, well, we've got to do a better job of something.
donald j trump
I've never heard of it.
We never heard of it.
That's pretty good.
unidentified
Well, surprise.
Mr. President, you released video of that first boat strike on September 2nd, but not the second video.
Will you release video of that strike so that the American people can see for themselves what you're doing?
donald j trump
I don't know what they have, but whatever they have, we'd certainly release, no problem.
You know, we stopped every boat we knock out, we saved 25,000 American lives.
unidentified
That's right.
donald j trump
And if you look at our numbers, the drugs coming in through sea are down 91%.
I'm surprised it's 9%.
I don't know who's doing the 9%, but it's down 91%.
And we're going to start very soon on land, and I'm sure you're thrilled to hear that.
unidentified
On Ukraine, on Ukraine, Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner were there last night with Vladimir Putin.
Can you give us an update about those talks?
It sounds from what the Kremlin is saying, like they're not going to compromise.
Can you tell us what you've done?
donald j trump
I don't know what the Kremlin's doing.
I can tell you that they had a reasonably good meeting with President Putin.
We're going to find out.
It's a war that should have never been started.
It's a war if I were president.
We had a rigged election.
If I were president, that war would have never happened.
It's a terrible thing.
But I thought they had a very good meeting yesterday with President Putin.
We'll see what happens.
You know, when I was in this office and I talked to you about no cards, I said, you have no cards.
That was the time to settle.
I thought that would have been a much better time to settle.
But they, in their wisdom, decided not to do that.
They have a lot of things against them right now.
But you have President Putin had a very good meeting yesterday with Jared Kushner and with Steve Witkoff.
What comes out of that meeting, I can't tell you, because it does take two to tango.
You know, Ukraine, I think we have something pretty well worked out with them.
They're very satisfied, considering.
But the sad part is, if I were president, no war would have ever happened.
They would have had 100% of their territory.
Nothing would have happened.
It's a very sad situation.
So think of this.
Last month, 27,000 soldiers.
27, that's like you take a stadium, a football stadium, not an arena, and you cut it in half.
27,000 people died.
unidentified
Young, mostly young soldiers, died last month in one month.
donald j trump
And that's the only reason I'm involved.
You know, we're not spending any money in the war.
We're selling to NATO.
We're not being ripped off like we were under Biden.
Biden was handing everybody everything we had, giving them all the missiles, everything they wanted, free, no charge.
He had no idea what he was doing.
They're paying top dollar, full price for everything.
It goes to NATO, and then NATO distributes it.
NATO pays us.
So it's not money.
We would all, I think I could speak for everyone behind here.
The politicians I know and the auto manufacturers are good people.
They don't want to see 27,000 people die for no reason whatsoever.
And that's the only reason I'm trying to help.
Yeah, please.
unidentified
Mr. President, switching to Venezuela for a second.
Have you checked back with President Maduro?
sean duffy
I mean, is your pressure campaign working?
unidentified
And do you think he'll respond to your demand that he's a working?
donald j trump
It's not a pressure campaign.
It's much beyond that, I think.
I spoke to him briefly, just told him a couple of things.
We'll see what happens with that.
Venezuela sends us drugs, but Venezuela sends us people that they shouldn't be sending.
They sent us, they emptied their prisons into our country.
They sent us killers, murderers.
They sent us drug dealers at the highest level.
They sent us gang members.
They sent us people from their mental institutions.
They emptied their mental institutions into our country.
And so did other countries because we had stupid people running this country, really stupid people.
And I think probably you had some stupid ones, and you had some smart ones, but they were bad people too.
Because nobody, not all of them were stupid.
You can't cheat on elections like they did and be stupid.
unidentified
Did you talk to him a second time or just that one time?
donald j trump
What's that?
unidentified
To Majoro, did you speak to him again?
No, I didn't.
When you spoke with Mr. Witcoff and with Mr. Cushman.
Last night.
Last night.
Did they give you the sense that President Cutin still wants to end the war, still wants to make peace?
donald j trump
He would like to end the war.
That was their impression.
Now, whether or not their impression was that they'd like to see he would like to see the war ended.
I think he'd like to get back to dealing a more normal life.
I think it'd like to be trading with the United States of America, frankly, instead of losing thousands of soldiers a week.
But their impression was very strongly that they'd like to make a deal.
unidentified
What's the impression?
If it is found that survivors were actually killed while clinging on to that boat, should Secretary Hegseth, Admiral Bradley, or others be punished?
donald j trump
I think you're going to find that this is war, that these people were killing our people by the millions, actually, if you look over a few years.
I think last year we lost close to 300,000 people were killed.
That's not mentioning all the families.
Have you seen what happens with the families of not only the people who are killed, but the people that are trying to get their son or their daughter off of this poison that they've been fed?
I think you're going to find that there's a very receptive ear to doing exactly what they're doing, taking out those boats.
And very soon we're going to start doing it on land too, because we know every route, we know every house, we know where they manufacture this crap, we know where they put it all together.
And I think you're going to see it very soon on land also.
unidentified
So to be clear, do you support the decision to kill survivors after the election?
donald j trump
I know I support the decision to knock out the boats.
And whoever is piloting those boats, most of them are gone.
But whoever are piloting those boats, they're guilty of trying to kill people in our country.
Yeah, please?
unidentified
The House Judiciary Committee has subpoenaed Jack Smith to ask about his investigation of you.
I wondered for a deposition.
I wondered if you'd prefer to see that as a hearing so that the American public can see the questions and the responses more easily.
donald j trump
I'd rather see it probably at a hearing.
Look, Jack Smith is a thug.
He's a failed prosecutor.
He's a bad man.
He's a bad.
He's an evil man.
He hurt a lot of people.
Forget about me.
You know, I do this stuff.
But I got indicted many times by a guy that they were dismissed.
He's a bad guy.
He's a sick man.
There's something wrong with him, actually.
I think Jack Smith is a sick man.
There's something really wrong with him.
I'd rather see him testify publicly because there's no way he can answer the questions.
But Biden knew this was going along.
Kamala knew it was going along.
And there's a lot of things happening right now that they don't like.
One of the things is the Autopen.
Everything he signed, almost, with the exception of the pardon of his wonderful son Hunter, just about everything he signed was not signed by him.
He had no knowledge of it.
He didn't know what it was.
People sitting around the beautiful Resolute Desk knew exactly what it was.
And those people are guilty, in my opinion, of a major crime.
Everything that was signed by that Autopen, the man operating the Autopen, and I'm sure there are more than one because I think some of the people can operate it themselves.
Some of the high-level people operated themselves.
They would just go in and sign his name with an AutoPen onto very important documents, not only pardons, but policy, maybe CAFE standards, okay, as an example.
Who signed cafe?
If you asked Biden what's a cafe standard, he would have absolutely no idea.
He'd say, where is the cafe located?
The guy didn't know anything.
Look, that just shows you what a rigged election can be.
But you understand what I'm saying.
Thank you, President.
unidentified
You've had conversations with me.
I did with Jensen.
Right, so.
donald j trump
Smart man.
unidentified
In your conversations with him, have you kind of given a sense of where you are with export controls and the heights of children?
donald j trump
Sure.
He knows very well.
He's done an amazing job.
Navidia, very good.
unidentified
Mr. President, when do you expect for phase two of the Gaza peace plan to be implemented next year?
donald j trump
Well, it's going along well.
You know, they had a problem today, I understand, with the bomb that went off and hurt some people pretty badly, probably killed some people.
They're telling me it just happened.
But it's going on very, we have peace in the Middle East.
People don't realize it.
We have tremendous support.
59 countries.
There's tremendous support, but we'll, Phase 2 is moving along.
Yeah, it's going to happen pretty soon.
unidentified
Mr. President, did you speak with House Republican leadership about your decision to pardon Congressman Henry Quayar?
And are you concerned that you made a vulnerable Democrat perhaps less vulnerable with that decision?
donald j trump
It didn't matter.
He's a respected person.
He was treated very badly because he said that people should not be allowed to pour into our country.
And he was right.
He didn't like open borders.
He was on the border.
He represents a very respected man.
He represents the people on the border.
And he saw what was happening.
And as soon as he made that statement, I then said, I'll bet he gets indicted.
And that's what happened.
You know, I put out my truth from that.
Well, I did a truth.
Wonderful truth.
unidentified
We love truth.
donald j trump
But what happened is he got indicted for speaking the truth.
And his wife got indicted, Imilda.
And that's sort of a first.
Usually they leave the wives alone, right?
Don't they, Congressman?
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donald j trump
Typically, they indict somebody, put him in jail for the rest of his life, but the wife can just sit home and cry, or she'll find a new man.
A lot of times they find a new man.
It makes them much happier.
In fact, a lot of times they like that man better than the one that's in jail.
unidentified
Mr. President, thank you.
The mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frey, is saying that he's actually proud to have the largest Somali community in the country, and his police chief.
He's a fool.
shelley moore capito
Well, his police chief is also saying that.
donald j trump
He's not proud to have the largest Somalian.
Look at their nation.
Look how bad their nation is.
It's not even a nation.
It's just people walking around killing each other.
Look, these Somalians have taken billions of dollars out of our country.
They've taken billions and billions of dollars.
They have a representative, Ilhan Omar, who they say married her brother.
That's a fraud.
She tries to deny it now, but you can't really deny it because, you know, it just happened.
She shouldn't be allowed to be a congresswoman, and I'm sure people are looking at that.
And she should be thrown the hell out of our country.
And most of those people, they have destroyed Minnesota.
Minnesota, you have an incompetent governor.
You have a crooked governor.
He's crooked as hell, but he's incompetent.
Waltz is, he should be ashamed.
That beautiful land, that beautiful state.
It's a hellhole right now.
And the Somalians should be out of here.
They've destroyed our country.
And all they do is complain, complain, complain.
You have her.
She's always talking about the Constitution provides me with go back to your own country and figure out your Constitution.
All she does is complain about this country.
And without this country, she would not be in very good shape.
She probably wouldn't be alive right now.
So Somalia is considered by many to be the worst country on earth.
I don't know.
I haven't been there.
I won't be there anytime soon, I hope.
But what Somalia, what the Somalian people have done to Minnesota is not even believable.
It's not even believable.
And a lot of it starts with the governor.
A lot of it starts with Barack Hussein Obama, because that's when people started coming in and you have to have people come in that are going to love our country, cherish our country.
They want to kiss our country goodnight.
They talk about our country.
We want them to pray for our country.
This is not the people living in Minnesota.
And she's a disaster.
She should not be, and her friends shouldn't be allowed.
Frankly, they shouldn't even be allowed to be congresspeople.
They shouldn't even be allowed to be congresspeople because they don't represent the interests of our country.
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donald j trump
Anybody else?
unidentified
The automakers spent billions on meeting the Biden EV rules.
Should they be able to recoup that somehow, given the change?
And there's no question about doing it.
No.
donald j trump
I'm not letting them recoup.
They're going to do just fine.
You know how they recoup?
From this point forward, they'll do very well.
unidentified
Can you also talk about the USMCA and what you're thinking about renegotiating that with the automakers?
donald j trump
Well, that's just an ongoing thing.
It expires in about a year, and we'll either let it expire or we'll maybe work out another deal with Mexico and Canada.
But look, Mexico and Canada have taken advantage of the United States, like just about every other country, in all fairness.
It's not them.
I'm not blaming them.
But every country, because we had stupid people running our country.
We had a lot of stupid people running.
That's why we have $38 trillion in debt.
But the beautiful thing about the tariffs is we'll start paying off that debt.
The money coming in, they're finding money in our country now that they never knew existed.
The other day, $30 billion.
Where did it come from?
I said, why don't you check the tariff show?
They said, sir, that tariff hasn't started yet.
It doesn't start till January.
I said, no, it started two months ago.
They called back, sir, you're right, it was from tariffs.
No, we have a whole different country.
I hope the Supreme Court, I pray that the Supreme Court understands the importance of the sensible, really, I mean, this would be country threatening if something happened with regard to that.
You know, the people that brought that case are bad people.
They're very bad people.
They hate our country.
They represent foreign countries, including China, but they represent, and China's paying us a lot of money now in tariffs.
But they represent people that really don't like our country much.
And I know some of them, and they're scum.
In my opinion, they're scum.
They're absolute scum.
And they're not suing for any good reason.
They're just suing to see if they can stop it because they make money if this country does badly.
But we're taking in trillions of dollars.
We're stopping wars.
We have great national security because of tariffs.
And then to think that we have to even go and justify this.
The reason a lot of these people, I can tell you this, maybe we would add the political people.
We wouldn't have these people without tariffs.
The people that are up here from Solantis and Ford and General Motors, great companies, including this gentleman, they wouldn't be here today if we didn't have tariffs.
They'd be building their plants in Mexico and other places.
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