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| Real Clear Politics co-founder and president Tom Bevin joins us now for a discussion on the end of the longest shutdown in U.S. history and its political impacts. | ||
| But first, Tom Bevin, before we get there, Real Clear Politics has been around about a quarter century now, but remind people who you are, what your mission is, and your approach to political analysis. | ||
| Thanks, John. | ||
| It's great to be with you. | ||
| So, yeah, we started Real Clear Politics 25 years ago, and our idea was to basically be a political, you know, clearinghouse of news and information for people who care about politics, policy, and elections. | ||
| And so, what we do is we get up every day and we scour the internet. | ||
| We aggregate the best stories, commentary, opinion analysis. | ||
| We round up all of the best video clips, and obviously a lot of people know us for our poll averages. | ||
| We were the creator of the poll average back in the day. | ||
| And so, we're aggregating polling data, not just around elections, but also a bunch of metrics that pollsters ask, like presidential job approval rating, favorability ratings, those sorts of things, right direction, wrong track. | ||
| And so, you know, our model, our mission is to inform the public as best we can from ideas and news across the political spectrum. | ||
| If you go to our webpage, we're probably one of the only sites where you will find a right-leaning argument on an issue and a left-leaning argument right next to it. | ||
| And you read them both and you can make up your own mind about who you think is right and what you think about that issue. | ||
| And some great political podcasts as well for folks who are into podcasts, all available at realclearpolitics.com. | ||
| So bring us to the end of the shutdown. | ||
| Who won the shutdown and how does one determine a winner and a loser of something like a shutdown? | ||
| Yeah, that's a great question. | ||
| I mean, clearly the polls seem to show that Democrats, more people blamed Republicans than Democrats. | ||
| I think that's one of the reasons that the Democrats held out as long as they did. | ||
| They felt like they were winning the public relations battle, although it wasn't so lopsided that Republicans didn't feel like they had ground to stand on as well. | ||
| I do think in the end, it seems like by the reaction of Democrats that they felt like they lost. | ||
| They were furious at these eight Democrats who decided to cut this deal. | ||
| And so I think in that sense, Democrats maybe lost because they basically only got what was offered to them eight weeks ago. | ||
| I mean, they really didn't get a whole lot of concessions from Republicans on this. | ||
| And as I think your caller mentioned in the last segment, we're going to be doing this again at the end of January. | ||
| So we'll see how that goes. | ||
| But honestly, I don't know that I'm not sure how much the shutdown played in the elections in November. | ||
| probably played in Virginia and certainly Northern Virginia more than anywhere else. | ||
| I think it was more about the economy. | ||
| And I really don't know that it's going to have any impact on the elections next November. | ||
| I think that also will be about the economy. | ||
| And that's where I think Trump and the Republicans are really having some difficulty right now. | ||
| Well, I want to come back to that. | ||
| But first, Democrats' goal at the outset of this 43-day-long shutdown was to put the rising cost of health care front and center. | ||
| They ended up getting a commitment for a vote next month in the Senate on some bill on the rising cost of health care and the subsidies. | ||
| Was that what they were looking for at the outset here? | ||
| Well, I mean, what they wanted, I think they wanted two things. | ||
| One, they wanted the ACA subsidies, and you saw that with Schumer. | ||
| You know, his compromise proposal was to fund that for a year. | ||
| That was always, I think, unlikely. | ||
| Another subtext of this was the filibuster and Democrats perhaps wanting to do, there was some discussion about whether this was the end game, that Democrats really wanted Republicans to go ahead and do away with the filibuster because it might benefit them in the long term. | ||
| And certainly Trump played right into that when he was pounding on Republicans to kill the filibuster. | ||
| But to your point, you know, Democrats are arguing now after the shutdown that anytime that they can make health care a central issue in the sort of overall political discussion, political landscape, that's a winner for them. | ||
| They do lead on that issue when you look at the polling. | ||
| So in that sense, I guess they're correct. | ||
| But that to me is a bit more of a spin. | ||
| That vote is going to take place, but I don't know that there's anyone who thinks that it's going to pass or going to lead to something from a policy perspective that benefits Democrats. | ||
| So this is something, though, moving forward, they want to continue to try and make an issue all the way through the November 2026 election. | ||
| The filibuster point is an interesting one. | ||
| One of the articles I read is that it was the threat to end the filibuster that actually got Democrats to break ranks in the Senate and finally eight Democrats joining Republicans in the Senate to move this legislation, that that was the breaking point for them, even after an off-year election in which Democrats swept the board. | ||
| Yeah, and look, Democrats were just arguing. | ||
| I mean, there were clips floating around of Bernie Sanders from just a year or two ago saying that he wanted to end the filibuster. | ||
| He wanted Democrats to end the filibuster so they could pass their legislation. | ||
| I think eventually it's going to happen because I think if Democrats do get back into power and they're able to do away with the filibuster, I think plenty have signaled enough desire to make that happen. | ||
| And on the Republican side, we had this discussion the other day. | ||
| I mean, if Republicans are going to do it, they should do it now because they control branches of the government. | ||
| If they lose the House next November, then it's kind of a moot point. | ||
| I mean, if they can't get anything through the House, what good is having no filibuster in the Senate? | ||
| So it's one of those things. | ||
| It's situational ethics for these parties based on where they find themselves in the current moment. | ||
| Although I know John Thune and Rick Scott and some of the other folks in John Cornyn in the Senate had expressed a real hesitancy to do away with the filibusters despite the fact that Trump was basically screaming at the top of his lungs. | ||
| Do you think Chuck Schumer's time as leader of Senate Democrats is drawing to a close? | ||
| I do. | ||
| I think this was it for him. | ||
| He tried to engineer this in a way that allowed him to basically get the government open, but he could stand up there and vote no. | ||
| But I just feel like the pressure is such on Schumer. | ||
| He was really hounded by Democrats for his first vote to keep the government open a few months ago. | ||
| And then with this, the pressure that's on him, I think, is extreme. | ||
| And I do think if it's unlikely that even right now that Democrats will win back the Senate next November, it's probably more likely than it was a couple weeks ago, but still it's an uphill battle. | ||
| But when Democrats have to vote for a leader in the Senate, whether it's a majority leader or minority leader, I think Chuck Schumer is going to face a challenge. | ||
| And I don't know. | ||
| He's not up for re-election until 2028. | ||
| I suspect he's going to get a primary challenge. | ||
| And I would not be surprised in the slightest if, you know, after the 2026 elections, that Chuck Schumer is done as a leader in the Democratic Party. | ||
| Tom Bevin, a good guy to chat politics with, and he's with you this morning on the Washington Journal to do it for about the next 20 minutes. | ||
| So get your calls in. | ||
| 202-748-8000 for Democrats. | ||
| Republicans, 2028-8001. | ||
| Independents, 202-748-8002. | ||
| Tom Bevin, as folks are calling in Switchgears. | ||
| What was your thought on the Epstein emails that were released yesterday and how that story played out alongside this government shutdown ending story yesterday? | ||
| Yeah, I know there are a lot of folks who don't believe in coincidences. | ||
| And maybe in this case, I don't either. | ||
| Look, the Epstein, there's no question the Epstein files has been a problem for Donald Trump, a political problem, because, you know, this is something that he ran on. | ||
| This is something that his base is interested in. | ||
| They want these files to be released. | ||
| They've agitated for it for years. | ||
| He promised that he would. | ||
| And then he got into office. | ||
| And despite the fact that, you know, Dan Bongino and Kash Patel and Pam Bondi and all these folks were saying that this was going to happen, they've really just sort of made one gaff after another in the way that they've handled this thing to the point where it's become the sort of prolonged political problem. | ||
| I don't know that Trump has, Trump hasn't really helped himself either by saying, you know, months ago, oh, this is old news. | ||
| This is a hoax from Democrats. | ||
| That didn't really pass muster with a lot of folks in the MAGA base. | ||
| The issue did subside, but as you mentioned, it's back in full force now. | ||
| I didn't think the emails that were released yesterday, I thought the Democrats, they kind of tried to pull a little bit of a bait and switch there by redacting Virginia Jeffery's name from that email and then getting these headlines, which most of the media ran with, which was Trump emails claimed Trump knew and spent hours with Epstein victim. | ||
| I think that backfired a little bit because there was also part of those emails that said, look, Trump wanted Ghelaine Maxwell to stop. | ||
| And we now know Virginia Jeffrey has testified under oath that Trump never saw him on the plane, never saw him at the island, never saw him in New York, he never approached her inappropriately or she never saw her do anything with any of the girls. | ||
| I think part of this story is people know that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein were friends and friendly. | ||
| And so that's kind of baked into some of this. | ||
| But there's no question that it's an issue that the White House does not want to be dealing with and would like to go away as soon as possible. | ||
| And it's just one of those issues that hasn't gone away. | ||
| They haven't been able to make it go away. | ||
| For Miss Jeffrey, she passed away earlier this year, though has a memoir that has been published posthumously. | ||
| Came out last month. | ||
| In that memoir, she recalled meeting Donald Trump once, saying that he couldn't have been friendlier. | ||
| She wrote that Julian Maxwell noticed her at the resort and approached her, saying she knew a wealthy man who was looking for a massage therapist. | ||
| People were taken out of the spa hired by him. | ||
| In other words, gone. | ||
| And the memoir coming out after her death, the teenage spa attendant at Mar-a-Lago, who Maxwell recruited back in 2000, she died by suicide this year at age 41. | ||
| Taking your phone calls this morning with Tom Bevin of Real Clear Politics. | ||
| And we've got plenty for you, Tom Bevan. | ||
| This is Alex in Mentor Ohio Democrat. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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| I had suggested to your person about, you know, when President Trump had renamed the Defense Department the Department of War. | ||
| I think from the time he was elected the first time till this time, he's been trying to start a war with anybody that would look. | ||
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Now he's attacking Venezuela. | |
| So is this the beginning of his regime that it's going to continue on? | ||
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He's going to just remain in power because there's a war going on. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| Has that been bounced off? | ||
| Anybody? | ||
| Tom Bevin on the drug boat strikes. | ||
| Well, I don't know that there's any merit to the idea that Trump's trying to start a war so that he can stay in power. | ||
| He has talked about a third term. | ||
| He has, I think the last thing he said is he ruled it out. | ||
| I think that's more trolling than anything to get Democrats up in arms over this. | ||
| Look, I do think it's interesting. | ||
| Trump has gone around the world and he has made a big show of the fact that he's been the peace president. | ||
| He's helped broker all these deals, including the Israel-Hamas ceasefire, and he's been working on Ukraine. | ||
| He hasn't gotten that one done yet. | ||
| But at the same time, over the past few months, we've seen him make these attacks on these drug boats and really ratchet things up with Venezuela to the point where it does look like there could be some sort of hot war against Venezuela. | ||
| And those are very, very contradictory things, particularly among folks in the Republican Party in the MAGA base. | ||
| One of the reasons that they like Trump had voted for Trump is because he was the only Republican at the time who was willing to stand up in 2015. | ||
| I remember distinctly him being on a debate stage in South Carolina and saying, you know, the Republican Party, George Bush, had lied America into war in Iraq for oil. | ||
| And everyone was that, you know, it was kind of shocking to hear a Republican say that. | ||
| But he had tapped into something in the Republican Party that I think was building a frustration with these overseas, you know, building democracy abroad. | ||
| And so that's been a key part of his platform while he's been president and while he's run for president. | ||
| So the stuff that's going on with Venezuela is directly contradictory to that. | ||
| And he doesn't, he kind of waves it away, but I think there is some discontent, not just among his base, but as the caller mentioned, among the public more broadly about how quickly we seem to be in escalating with Venezuela. | ||
| Let me go to the Constitution State. | ||
| This is Mary Lou in Newington, Connecticut. | ||
| Independent, good morning. | ||
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| I want to know why none of you seem to be worrying about all the Muslims that are winning places in the government of this country. | ||
| There were 27 Muslims voting into November. | ||
| Why does a person's religion worry you, Mary Lou? | ||
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Into office. | |
| They could not, they knocked down the World Trade Center. | ||
| They tried to knock down. | ||
| All right, that's Mary Lou. | ||
| Tom Bevan, let's take this to New York City and Zorhan Mamdani's victory, Democrats' victory, and that closely watched mayoral race. | ||
| What does that mean for 2026 in terms of what Republicans plan to run on next year? | ||
| Well, sure. | ||
| I mean, look, it's been very clear for months that Mamdani was headed for victory and Republicans have already tried to make him the face of the Democratic Party. | ||
| They're going to try and make him the and right now he is currently elevated to, you know, become one of the leaders. | ||
| I think Bernie Sanders was asked this a week or so ago. | ||
| Is he a leading figure in the Democratic Party? | ||
| He said, of course he is. | ||
| He's the mayor of New York City. | ||
| It's the biggest city in the United States. | ||
| And so he's this rising star. | ||
| And Republicans are going to try and make him the face of the Democratic Party moving forward. | ||
| And Democrats have had sort of an interesting, you know, they've been, some of them have kept their distance. | ||
| Some of them sort of eagerly embraced him, AOC and Bernie, but others have sort of, you know, had been, I don't want to say drag kicking and screaming, but they did not, they ended up endorsing him in the end, but not in a very enthusiastic way. | ||
| I think a couple things. | ||
| Number one, Republicans, you know, just hoping that Mamdani wrecks New York City in the next 12 months is not an electoral strategy. | ||
| It is not a plan for victory. | ||
| They can put him up as the face of the Democratic Party, but unless they have something that they're running on that resonates with voters, they're going to be in trouble next November, particularly on the economy. | ||
| He's been very smart. | ||
| He ran a great campaign. | ||
| And the key to it has been this, you know, the word affordability. | ||
| And Democrats have adopted that. | ||
| And I think that's a really smart strategy. | ||
| It's a really smart word because it's in many senses apolitical. | ||
| And it's very easy for voters to digest. | ||
| It's a word. | ||
| It's not gobbledygook. | ||
| It's not a slogan. | ||
| It's very simple. | ||
| Can you afford this or can you not afford your life and the things that make that up? | ||
| That's something that every single voter can easily recognize, digest, and understand. | ||
| And he did a good job of parlaying that into a victory. | ||
| And so we'll see what happens. | ||
| But it certainly was a watershed moment to have a socialist win that race, even though it was closer than most expected. | ||
| And now we'll see how he's able to govern. | ||
| On what resonates with voters in November of 2026, do you think a shutdown in October and November of 2025 matters to voters a year from now, 355 days from now, to be exact? | ||
| I do not. | ||
| I think what voters are going to care about heading in, and look, this is what it was in 2024. | ||
| And unless events intervene, and by that I mean, you know, a terrorist attack or, you know, a virus like COVID, which went from literally non-existent to the number one issue in 2020, unless something like that happens, it's very clear that voters are concerned about the economy, inflation, by an order of magnitude. | ||
| It's two or three times. | ||
| When you combine those two issues together, it's way more than the next most important concern. | ||
| It's the entire ballgame right now. | ||
| And as I said, Donald Trump came into office. | ||
| He had an advantage over Joe Biden and Kamala Harris on those issues. | ||
| He ran on those issues. | ||
| We're 10 months into his presidency now, and he's underwater by 11 points on the issue of his handling of the economy. | ||
| And by that, I mean his disapproval is 11 points higher than his approval rating. | ||
| And when you dig down and look specifically at inflation, he's at negative 25.5. | ||
| His approval rating on inflation is about 35%, and his disapproval rating is over 60%. | ||
| It's 61.2%. | ||
| So clearly, voters, and not just Democrats, Independents and Republicans, have looked at Donald Trump's stewardship of the economy thus far and said, look, he promised he was going to get inflation under control. | ||
| We're still feeling it. | ||
| And that's something that he and Republicans have to grapple with between now and next November. | ||
| Let's go to Paul here in D.C. Democrat. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
| You're on with Tom Devon. | ||
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Hi, good morning. | |
| Thank you for taking the call. | ||
| I've used RealClear politics a lot in past elections, took a break for a little while and just came back to visit the site more frequently. | ||
| And it definitely has a lot of good information on it. | ||
| But one of the things that I struggle with, though, is something that the guest had referenced earlier on, which is that they put a right-leaning argument that they call from all media sources. | ||
| And then next to it, you can see a left-leaning argument. | ||
| And the thing about that is it really reduces issues to a binary solution so that if something the Republicans do really well or successfully, there'll be an article from a left-leaning perspective that calls that action or outcome totally catastrophic. | ||
| But when I talk with my Republican or conservative or MAGA friends or family, we're actually not that far apart, like Democrats and Republicans. | ||
| And so I think that your format, while you try to give different perspectives, by only giving two, you're creating this illusion that there's an us and a them and a right way and a wrong way, or something that's glorious or something that's catastrophic. | ||
| And so I would just like encourage you to find issues or arguments, you know, like on healthcare, for example. | ||
| Well, Paul, I got your point. | ||
| Let me give Tom Bevin a chance to respond. | ||
| Well, look, I mean, I would argue that we try to cover every single day a variety of issues from elections to the economy to foreign policy to everything and try to cover a range of perspectives. | ||
| And sometimes those are far right. | ||
| Sometimes those are center right. | ||
| Sometimes those are centrists. | ||
| Sometimes they're center left and sometimes they're far left. | ||
| And there are different flavors, obviously. | ||
| You've got the Republican establishment. | ||
| You've got MAGA. | ||
| You've got independents. | ||
| You've got libertarians. | ||
| You've got Democratic Socialists. | ||
| So we try and cover the gamut. | ||
| I understand the point you're making, which is sometimes issues are more nuanced than allow for just two articles. | ||
| But I would also say that one of the problems that we currently face and have faced for a long time is we constantly, via our phones, via social media, via what we watch on television, whether it's Fox News or MSNBC, we've cocooned ourselves in these information bubbles so that we're only getting one perspective. | ||
| And usually that perspective is reinforcing our priors, as they say, on these issues. | ||
| Republicans are bad or Democrats are bad or whatever. | ||
| And so one of the things that we try and do and we encourage people to do is come to our site because again, I tell people all the time, if you go to National Review, great publication, it's conservative. | ||
| And you will go there for five years and you will never see a liberal opinion there. | ||
| And And you can go to The Nation magazine or the New Republic, liberal publications, left-leaning publications. | ||
| Great publications often have good information, good stories, good articles, good arguments, but you will never see a conservative opinion there. | ||
| And so we can take from National View and we can take from the nation and put those arguments next to each other. | ||
| And we can challenge our readers to say, hey, here's what the left is saying on this issue. | ||
| Here's what the right is saying on this issue. | ||
| Read both and make up your own mind. | ||
| We're not trying to tell people what to think. | ||
| We are trying to foster freedom of speech, free discussion, civil discussion, which is another, I think, thing that's been lost in this country is we can no longer just agree to disagree on issues without impugning each other's motives and telling, you know, thinking that whoever holds a different political opinion from us is somehow bad or evil. | ||
| So that's what we try and do. | ||
| And again, we're not perfect at it, but that's what we get up and work really hard to do every single day. | ||
| One more minute on this topic. | ||
| Your polling is some of the information on your website that is most popular, your polling pages. | ||
| How do you deal with what you were just talking about in terms of polls? | ||
| There's a lot of frustration with people. | ||
| Oh, that's a conservative poll. | ||
| That's a liberal poll. | ||
| How do you navigate that minefield? | ||
| How much time do we have? | ||
| Go a minute and thirty. | ||
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I'll say one minute. | |
| Look, so the polling industry has been very challenged over the last 15 or 20 years, sort of broadly speaking by the fact that people don't have landlines anymore. | ||
| They're all on cell phones and they're harder to reach and it's much more expensive and all of that. | ||
| I think Donald Trump has thrown a monkey wrench into the polling industry as well because he completely changed the dynamic of who was turning out and all of the models. | ||
| He was bringing in, he was converting Obama voters. | ||
| He was bringing in disaffected voters. | ||
| And so you had a lot of polls that ended up missing the results in some cases badly. | ||
| You had right-leaning pollsters that did a better job in 2016, 2020, and 2024 when he was on the ballot of projecting what the electorate was. | ||
| And so, look, our attitude toward polling is, and unlike some of the people who have, I was going to say copied us, but who've created different polling models in the last 20 years, and they've added a bunch of bells and whistles and secret sauce. | ||
| They're waiting this and they're doing that and they're trying to account for this or that. | ||
| We've stuck with the same, I mean, it's a very simple average. | ||
| The polls are right there. | ||
| You can see the numbers. | ||
| We don't fuss with them. | ||
| We don't put our thumb on the scale and say, this is a Republican, therefore he's going to get docked 10%, or it's a Democratic poll, so we're going to dock him 10%. | ||
| We include all of the public polls that are available. | ||
| We don't include polls from campaigns, and we don't include polls that come from, you know, that are sponsored by PACs that have a specific point of view. | ||
| But all the public polling that's available, it could be a Republican-leaning firm, could be a Democratic-leading firm. | ||
| And at the end of the day, if you look at our average and our record versus everybody else who's out there, our method has turned out to be the most accurate. | ||
| It sort of all comes out in the wash. | ||
| Now, we have had some, you know, the polling industry at large has had some misses, as we talked about with Donald Trump. | ||
| But I think overall, our attitude on the polling is the numbers are the numbers. | ||
| We put them up there for people to see. | ||
| It's very transparent. | ||
| And that's the best way that we've been able to handle that and all the challenges that the pollsters have faced. | ||
| I know we're running short on time. | ||
| Can I take your last two minutes to talk about profanity in politics? | ||
| I bring it up because Mitch Daniels, the former governor of Indiana, is a columnist for the Washington Post, brings it up today in his piece. | ||
| I don't know if you had a chance to read it, but this is. | ||
| Have not. | ||
| This is what he writes. | ||
| He says, profanity is suddenly mainstream. | ||
| Once unacceptable words, specifically the one you know I'm thinking of, are everywhere from comedians who apparently couldn't get laughs without them to politicians who must think it makes them look tough. | ||
| The grossness has now infected even our formerly proudest and most stately publications. | ||
| However, one might wish it, it seems unlikely that once the vulgar becomes commonplace, society will ever re-rule that it's out of bounds. | ||
| His concern about public norms being warped and wondering whether the damage is permanent. | ||
| Profanity in politics and publications. | ||
| What are your thoughts? | ||
| Well, profanity used to be, I mean, it's existed in politics, certainly, but it's always been more private. | ||
| And we saw that, and we've seen that with, you know, if you read histories and biographies, there were plenty of presidents who were very profane. | ||
| They just didn't do it in public, but it has seeped into our seeped into our public discourse and particularly over the last few years. | ||
| Again, I think, you know, Donald Trump has just thrown so many wrenches into our system. | ||
| Democrats would argue he's the one who's lowered the standards, and certainly Trump has cursed in public more than I think most presidents. | ||
| But Democrats' response to that has been to curse at Donald Trump and because their base wants to see them, you know, fight. | ||
| They want to see this sense of outrage and indignancy against Donald Trump. | ||
| And that's led people to one expression of that is to is to curse. | ||
| And we've seen that all the way. | ||
| I mean, you know, the former vice president Kamal Harris on our book tour has done that repeatedly in public. | ||
| So it is a problem. | ||
| And I do, I understand his point. | ||
| It is, you know, a crossing of a line that perhaps we're never going to go back into. | ||
| That's, I think social media has contributed to that as well. | ||
| We managed to say things online to people, terrible things that we would never say to someone's face. | ||
| And so that has, it's also become a part of our discourse to see that kind of language used online. | ||
| And so I totally get his point, but I'm not sure that that's a genie that can be put back in the bottle. | ||
| Tom Bevin, I know you got to run and make some politics real clear for folks. | ||
| It's realclearpolitics.com if you want to see the work of Tom Bevan and his colleagues, Carl Cannon, one of them. | ||
| We always appreciate chatting with you and your team. | ||
| Thanks a lot, John. | ||
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| I have been watching C-SPAN Washington Journal for over 10 years now. | ||
| This is a great format that C-SPAN offers. | ||
| You're doing a great job. | ||
| I enjoy hearing everybody's opinion. | ||
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I'm a huge C-SPAN fan. | |
| I listen every morning on the way to work. | ||
| I think C-SPAN should be a required feeling for all three branches of government. | ||
| First of all, if you say hello, C-SPAN, and how you all covered the hearings. | ||
| Thank you, everyone, at C-SPAN, for allowing this interaction with everyday citizens. | ||
| It's an amazing show to get real opinions from real people. | ||
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| C-SPAN invites you on a powerful journey through the stories that define a nation. | ||
| From the halls of our nation's most iconic libraries and institutions comes America's Book Club, a bold, original series where ideas, history, and democracy meet. | ||
| Hosted by renowned author and civic leader David Rubinstein, each week features in-depth conversations with the thinkers shaping our national story. | ||
| Among this season's remarkable guests, John Grisham, master storyteller of the American justice system, Justice Amy Coney Barrett, exploring the Constitution, the court, and the role of law in American life. | ||
| Famed chef and global relief entrepreneur Jose Andres, reimagining food. | ||
| Brita Dove, Hulitzer Prize winner and former U.S. Poet Laureate. | ||
| The books, the voices, the places that preserve our past, and spark the ideas that will shape our future. | ||
| America's Book Club, Sundays at 6 p.m. and 9 p.m. Eastern and Pacific, only on C-SPAN. | ||
| All in high school students, join C-SPAN as we celebrate America's 250th anniversary during our 2026 C-SPAN Student Cam Video Documentary Competition. | ||
| This year's theme is exploring the American story through the Declaration of Independence. | ||
| We're asking students to create a five to six minute documentary that answers one of two questions. | ||
| What's the Declaration's influence on a key moment from America's 250-year history? | ||
| Or how have its values touched on a contemporary issue that's impacting you or your community? | ||
| We encourage all students to participate, regardless of prior filmmaking experience. | ||
| Consider interviewing topical experts and explore a variety of viewpoints around your chosen issue. | ||
| Students should also include clips of related C-SPAN footage, which are easy to download on our website, studentcam.org. | ||
| C-SPAN Student Cam Competition awards $100,000 in total cash prizes to students and teachers and $5,000 for the grand prize winner. | ||
| Entries must be received before January 20th, 2026. | ||
| For competition rules, tips, or just how to get started, visit our website at studentcam.org. | ||
| Friday on C-SPAN Ceasefire, former Alabama Democratic Senator Doug Jones and former Ohio Republican Congressman Steve Stivers come together for a bipartisan dialogue on the shutdown and top issues facing the country. | ||
| They join host Dasha Burns Friday at 7 p.m. and 10 p.m. Eastern and Pacific, only on C-SPAN. | ||
| Non-fiction book lovers, C-SPAN has a number of podcasts for you. | ||
| Listen to best-selling nonfiction authors and influential interviewers on the Afterwords podcast and on Q ⁇ A. Hear wide-ranging conversations with the non-fiction authors and others who are making things happen. | ||
| And BookNotes Plus episodes are weekly hour-long conversations that regularly feature fascinating authors of nonfiction books on a wide variety of topics. | ||
| Find all of our podcasts by downloading the free C-SPAN Now app or wherever you get your podcasts and on our website, c-span.org slash podcasts. | ||
| Now to the White House where President Trump signed an executive order to help teenagers transition out of foster care. |