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Coming up this morning on Washington Journal, along with your calls and comments live, we'll speak with former Trump Economic Advisor Stephen Moore, co-founder of the group Committee to Unleash Prosperity.
He'll talk about President Trump's handling of the economy and how voters' concerns about the economy and affordability impacted Tuesday's off-year election wins for Democrats.
And then Democratic pollster and strategist Carly Cooperman on the future of the Democratic Party and Campaign 2026.
Also, Democratic California Congressman Jimmy Gomez, a member of the Ways and Means Committee on the government shutdown, National Guard deployments, and immigration enforcement.
Good morning, everyone, and welcome to The Washington Journal on this Friday, November 7th.
We've entered day 38 of the government shutdown.
The Senate today is expected to take the 15th vote to open up the federal government.
Democrats remain united and are expected to block it.
Meanwhile, a judge has ordered the Trump administration to fully fund the food stamps benefits.
And hundreds of flights are being canceled across the country as the shutdown showdown continues here in Washington.
This morning in the first hour, your message to lawmakers and the president on the shutdown.
Democrats 202-748-8000.
Republicans 202-748-8001.
And Independents 202-748-8002.
If you're a federal worker, dial in at 202-748-8003.
And if you don't want to call, you can text at 202-748-8003 or post on facebook.com/slash C-SPAN or on X with the handle at C-SPANWJ.
Morning, everyone.
We'll get to your thoughts here on the government shutdown in just a minute.
Let's begin, though, with the latest from the Wall Street Journal.
The Senate is considering a revised plan to end the government shutdown.
The proposal will combine a short-term spending measure with a package of three full-year funding bills covering the legislative branch, which would fund the Capitol Police and congressional staff, agriculture benefits, which would be funding for those food stamp benefits, among other programs, and military construction and veterans affairs.
That would be pay to the military.
It was unclear whether the interim measure would aim to keep the government open through mid-December or January.
How ACA subsidies, a central concern of Democrats, would figure into the revised approach was also in flux.
And some Democrats warned they wouldn't be satisfied by a pledge of future action.
So again, on the table is the possibility of a promise of a future vote on Affordable Care Act subsidies.
We want to know from Democrats today, is that enough for your party?
Should they agree to that and open up the government?
Let's listen to Senate Majority Leader John Thune, Republican of South Dakota, on the floor yesterday morning reiterating that Republicans are willing to hold a vote to extend expiring ACA subsidies, but have not moved off their position that the government must reopen first.
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Democrats, of course, acclaim their decision to shut down the governments about health care.
They want Republicans to bail out their Obamacare mess.
And as I've said probably a thousand times now, Mr. President, Republicans are 100% willing to sit down and talk about the mess that Democrats have created.
We're just not going to have that conversation while Democrats are holding the federal government hostage.
The Republican leader in the Senate, John Thune of South Dakota, to Republicans this morning.
Do you agree with your leader of the upper chamber there?
What do you want your party to do going forward on the government shutdown?
Going to the other side of the Capitol, Speaker Mike Johnson yesterday said he would not guarantee a vote on the Affordable Care Act subsidies that have been the main point of contention for Democrats throughout the shutdown.
Listen to what he had to say.
unidentified
Speaker, Leader Thune has sent out notifications that in exchange for reopening the government, he will promise Democrats a vote on ACA subsidies by being certain.
He promised it a long time ago, and he was rebuffed.
I mean, that's not what this is about.
I mean, they've demonstrated over and over and over.
Somebody said this is the Seinfeld shutdown.
It's about nothing.
If you brought in 100 Senate and House Democrats right now and said, what is it about?
They wouldn't even give you the same answer.
They don't even know.
They filed a counterproposal that's $1.5 trillion in new spending with all the crazy abuses that I listed earlier today.
That's still sitting out there.
That's the counterproposal.
Then they tried to say it was about health care.
That was never the issue for the September 30th fiscal cliff.
That was always a December issue.
We always knew, everybody in the building knew, we were going to have to wrestle through that and come to a consensus on a solution on the COVID-era Obamacare subsidies in October, November, December.
And ironically, they're eating up all the clock where that would have been done.
It's not about any of this.
It's about politics, as we explained earlier.
They are more afraid of the radical activists who are running the Democratic Party right now than they are of starving families, having families go hungry and having federal workers go without paychecks.
That's just a simple fact.
So yes, Leader Thune has been over backwards.
He's offered them a vote.
You know what they told him in response?
No, we need you to guarantee the outcome of that vote.
Well, that's ridiculous.
That can't be done.
unidentified
House Democrats, that they'll get a vote on ACA's MC58 certain.
No, because we did our job and I'm not part of the negotiation.
The House did its job on September 19th.
I'm not promising anybody anything.
I'm going to let this process play out.
I'll tell you what they wanted.
I'll tell you what Schumer and Jeffries wanted.
In fact, Chuck Schumer said it publicly and decried that Thune and I would not go in a back room with them and make a four corners agreement on Obamacare subsidies.
And I said, there's no way.
It was never possible or appropriate for that to be handled on a CR on a short-term stopgap funding measure.
And he knows that.
And we're not doing that anymore.
We're not taking four corners, four leaders in a back room and making a deal and hoisting it upon the people.
I'm not going to be a part of that.
Chuck Schumer is part of the old way this was done, and that's part of the reason why people have such a lack of trust in Congress.
We need to be transparent, open.
We need to do it through the process.
We need to involve and engage all of our caucuses and all of our members in this discussion.
Health care is very complicated.
It is very complex.
And it is not something four people can go in a smoke-filled room in the back and make a deal on.
Let's go to the other side of the aisle and hear from Democrats.
Here is Senate Democratic Senator Richard Blumenthal, Democrat of Connecticut, telling CNN it would be a mistake for Senate Democrats to agree to a deal that only promises a vote, but not a tangible policy outcome on ACA.
There is no reason that we should have a separate vote on extending the health care tax credits.
It ought to be part of whatever government funding agreement there is.
And settling for some kind of vague promise about a vote in the future on some indeterminate bill without any definite inclusion in the law, I think is a mistake.
And I think that that momentum has been stalled, perhaps temporarily, perhaps permanently, because my sense is the broad Democratic caucus is looking at the Tuesday night election as a message to Democrats to keep fighting.
And they also listened to Donald Trump the next morning say, oh, we're losing the shutdown.
For our Republican and Democratic viewers, you've heard from your party this morning.
Do you agree with them?
And for independents, we want to hear from you, all of you.
What is your message to Washington?
Federal workers, a line for you this morning as well.
As we said at the top, the Federal Aviation Administration announced that there would be an emergency order that flights would have to be canceled due to the government shutdown, and those flight cancellations begin today.
This is according to CBS and CNN News.
40 high-traffic airports affected, including in Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas, Denver, New York City, and Los Angeles.
Reductions to start at 4% today and ramp up to 6% by Tuesday, 8%, it says by next Thursday, 10% by Friday, November 14th, and they are to be in effect between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m.
Four largest U.S. airlines have preemptively canceled hundreds of flights, Delta, United, American Airlines, Southwest Airlines, and airlines are required to issue full refunds to affected passengers, but aren't required to cover secondary costs like hotels.
So the shutdown having a real impact across the country, and it starts today.
So your message to Washington on this shutdown showdown.
99% of the Republicans on Capitol Hill have voted to open the government up.
About 98% of the Democrats have voted to lock the government down and keep it shut down.
The Democrats and the Senate have now voted like 15 times to keep the government on lockdown.
This really has nothing to do with health care, by the way.
This is all about the survival of the Affordable Care Act, which the Democrats gave us 15 years ago.
Barack Obama and the Democrats lied to the country about the Affordable Care Act, all their big promises about health care costs coming down, and nobody's going to lose their doctor, nobody's going to lose their insurance, nobody's going to lose this.
Literally, everything they told us 15 years ago has turned out not to be true.
The Affordable Care Act is unaffordable.
And as long as it is in existence, this is going to continue.
Congress is going to have to continue to scramble every year trying to find money to subsidize these costs that are just out of control.
The Affordable Care Act needs to be extinguished from existence.
We need to go to a free market health care system in this country by which private health insurance companies, uncumbered without government regulations and government mandates, private health insurance companies, offer different health care plans to American citizens.
I don't know how many companies it would be.
It could be 10, 15, 20, 30, 40, 50, whatever the market and society decides.
That's what we need in terms of health care in this country.
Free market health care companies delivering the product to whoever wants to buy it.
And that's the only way you're going to have a system where people can purchase health care where it's affordable.
But Johnson keeps saying that he's not going to make a back rule deal.
That's because he can't, because Trump is running that branch of government.
He dictates how the executive branch operates.
And he also dictates how the Senate and the House operate.
These people can't make deals without Trump turning around and making a promise and then breaking the promise.
And you want the Democratic Party to follow what Trump says, even though he already exhibits the fact that he's not going to follow what he promised to the Democratic branch.
And he also said that he hates the Democrats, the Democratic, and the Democratic voters and Democratic legislators.
He already exhibits that.
He didn't just tell us.
He's showing us how much he hates the fact that when the Democratic legislators make a decision or try to get something done, he's going to be against it.
He's trying to make sure that the pain that's happening to these people while the government is shut down happen more to Democratic voters.
All right, so Tyrone in New York, Democrats saying that the president needs to get involved in these negotiations, but at the same time, Tyrone's saying Democrats shouldn't trust anything the president says.
We're asking you this morning to tell us what you think your party should do.
Republicans, Democrats, and Independents, what do you want Washington to do about this government shutdown?
Who should concede?
William in Wisconsin, independent.
unidentified
Yeah, I think that Democrats are really hurting everybody, even the Democrats.
And the Democrats believe in that, then don't believe in that.
Cindy, we'll go to you in Norwick, Connecticut, Republican.
Morning, Cindy.
unidentified
Morning.
Yeah, I feel that this is very childish, what's going on.
The Republicans, we won the election.
And I just, it's more TDS stuff, no kings, the government shutdown.
It's all, it's not about the American people.
It's about Donald Trump winning the election.
And Richard Blomenthal, you're my senator in the state.
Do what is right for the country.
If you don't trust Donald Trump to negotiate, I don't think he, the last caller said he exhibited that he's not trustworthy and he's not going to work with Congress.
I'm sorry.
You know, they're the ones that are not working with the Republican side of the aisle or with Donald Trump.
Donald Trump likes to negotiate, and I don't, he's never indicated that he would not.
I want to show you and others what the president had to say in the Oval Office yesterday.
He was asked what he thought Republicans in Congress should do to end the shutdown.
And this is how he responded.
unidentified
Given these modifications that are being made to air travel, the other disruptions with the government shutdown, do you think it's time for Republicans in Congress to change their negotiating position at all?
President Trump yesterday calling for an end to the filibuster as a way to open up the federal government.
Wall Street Journal headline, Senate Republicans say no to Trump after years of saying yes.
GOP lawmakers reject president's plan to end shutdown by killing the 60-vote filibuster rule.
From inside their reporting, they note it takes 51 votes to change or kill the filibuster.
Opposition from four GOP senators would be enough to preserve the rule if all Democrats voted no.
In recent interviews with the Wall Street Journal, 15 Senate Republicans pledged to preserve the filibuster, while a half a dozen said they would like to see the rule changed or nixed.
What do all of you say about the president's proposal to end the shutdown by killing the filibuster?
Cindy, I want to go back to you, a Norwalk, Connecticut Republican, and get your reaction.
unidentified
Yes, it is a dangerous tactic, but you know, this is what they're making it impossible to do anything else.
And I do agree with him the next time they get back in power, they will get rid of this.
If we play nice with them, do you really think they're going to play nice with us?
Well, the evidence proves otherwise, Greta.
I don't approve of ending the filibuster, but they're making it so that it's impossible not to, the longer this goes on.
You know, especially when we're coming up on the holidays and our families can't get together because those flights canceled, they're really hurting the American people.
And I think the Democrats are just saying we don't trust Donald Trump is a poor excuse.
It's lame.
They just don't want to work with Donald Trump.
We saw that in the first administration.
The proof is in the pudding, Greta, whose fault this is.
And to that caller and others who are calling on talks to begin.
There are negotiations happening.
It's just not happening at the leadership level.
From Punch Bowl News this morning, a bipartisan deal to end the shutdown seemed within reach earlier this week.
But Senate Democrats spent a two-hour caucus meeting Thursday taking stock of where things stand and came to a conclusion.
Why on earth would we fold now?
That is the sentiment coming out of a closed-door meeting with Senate Democrats yesterday.
Negotiators haven't decided on an end date for the continuing resolution.
The three bill minibus that is coming to a floor vote today still isn't finalized, even among Republicans.
There isn't an agreement on the structure or exact timing for an Obamacare subsidies vote, including whether they'll be a side-by-side vote on a GLP alternative, as Senator Dan Sullivan called for during a closed-door meeting Tuesday.
Even though Democrats have multiple chances to filibuster any such agreement, they don't think they should help advance what would become the vehicle for a deal that's not even done.
This is about today's test vote, a 15th vote that'll happen in the Senate today.
The Senate Majority Leader John Thune, Republican of South Dakota, expected to bring this to the floor.
Tune in to our gavel-to-gavel coverage on C-SPAN 2 today to see what happens.
The Republicans are hoping they can peel off more Democrats than the three that have consistently voted with them.
Remember, they need eight, a total of eight Democrats, to overcome the 60-vote threshold.
That is because Senator Ram Paul, Republican, has consistently voted no on these continuing resolutions.
After Tuesday's election victories, Democrats believe voters gave them a mandate to keep up the shutdown fight.
Senators Bernie Sanders and Chris Murphy, among others, implored their colleagues to keep fighting during Thursday's closed-door session.
Heather in Alabama, an independent.
Heather, what do you say to these senators?
unidentified
Well, thank you for having me on this morning.
I, as a former registered Republican, found myself in Alabama because my mother had died.
And at the end of the day, I found that after working hard all of my life, that in the state of Alabama, they pulled out of Obamacare, as they want to call it, even though we know it's the Affordable Care Act.
Coming from Maryland, I had had Medicaid during the COVID because obviously I wasn't working.
So when I thought I could transfer it because I needed to be here for my mom, I was told, oh, well, if you're not pregnant or if you don't have children, you don't get Medicaid.
And oh, you know, so basically, during my two years of getting my disability benefits going, they only entitled me to a very small amount of SNAP benefits, but no monetary because you don't get that if you don't have kids.
So I basically, ever since Donald Trump got elected, I knew I needed to go ahead and change my party because I got to the point where it was like, I don't trust really anybody.
I have to go with my gut.
And after seeing him talk about, oh, all these immigrants are coming over the border and they're killing our people and molesting our people.
So Heather, Heather, tie this back to the shutdown.
unidentified
Yeah, so basically how the shutdown is going to affect me is at the end of the day, now I'm reading that Medicaid, Medicare, and maybe even my benefits, my Social Security benefits, We'll come to an end with the shutdown at the worst time of year.
And after these elections, Tuesdays, we've been Democrats and Republicans better start working together because this country is headed towards socialism.
More on those bipartisan talks from Punch Bowl News today.
It's a tough sell, they say.
Democrats involved in cross-aisle talks have been trying to convince their Democratic colleagues that a commitment to vote on Obamacare subsidies bill could actually lead to a positive outcome.
It's a tough sell.
Most Democrats think it'll mount to a show vote that dies in the Senate.
As Punch Bowl scooped on Thursday, the two sides have actually been exchanging paper on various proposed GOP reforms that Democrats are so far not recoiling at.
At least 10 Republicans have approached Democrats to express their interest in an extension of the tax credits.
That includes Senators Ashley Moody, a Republican of Florida, and John Husted, a Republican of Ohio, both of whom are on the ballot in 2026.
Then there's the question of how an Obamacare compromise could get through the House, where Speaker Mike Johnson isn't making any guarantees.
Freshman Senate Democrats huddled Thursday to figure out how to maneuver a bill through the House, resolving that they'd touch base with their former GOP colleagues in that chamber.
Two of those freshmen, Senators Lisa Blunt Rochester of Delaware and Andy Kim of New Jersey, plan to meet today with Republican Representatives Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania and Jeff VanDrew of New Jersey.
The reality is that any Obamacare compromise would be very difficult to pass in both chambers without involvement from President Trump.
There it is this morning.
And with all of that on the table, we want you to tell Washington what you think of this.
Brenda in California, Democratic caller.
Good morning to you, Brenda.
unidentified
Good morning.
What I would like to say is I am total in support of what the Democratic Party is doing.
I know they keep saying it's a clean bill and that we should support it because of that, but I know what's in that clean bill.
And there's going to be other things that are going to hurt the same people that they say they claim they want to open the government to help.
So yes, Democrats stand your ground.
I was happy what happened in California.
I think that I would have gone further.
I think California should just withhold all the money they send to the federal government until they stop attacking the state.
So I am total in support of what they're doing.
I do not trust Trump.
I do not trust.
He's lied so many times that we've caught him in it.
They won't even swear in, you know, people that were elected.
Chuck Schumer, the Democratic leader on the Senate floor.
Do all of you agree or disagree with what he had to say there, quoting the president after Tuesday's elections.
Jaden in South Dakota, an independent.
Let's hear from you, Jayden.
unidentified
Oh, hello.
Yeah, in regards to what Schumer said, I mean, I agree to an extent.
I think it just looks bad on both parties at this point to the average American when they have their benefits being taken away and stuff like that.
The ones that rely on SNAP and stuff.
But I just think this entire thing is ridiculous with how they're playing the partisan politics with it, right?
They're trying to blame both sides as they're both digging their heels in here.
And both of them are trying to make this look as bad as possible to the other person for the midterm.
So I think that's what it really comes down to is putting pressure on putting the pressure point on blaming the other party to try to influence how the midterm election is going to come up in the long run here.
Jayden, you think voters will still remember this shutdown in November?
unidentified
With how long it is, yes.
With how long this has been, yes, and how the media has been pushing it now, the fact that SNAP benefits have been put in contention for the first time.
Yeah, so the food stamps, you think that's an issue that folks will remember?
And then what about this news today about these flight cancellations?
Do you think also that right before the holiday season, and if the shutdown continues, this bumps up right up right up to holiday travel?
unidentified
Yes, yeah, that as well.
And then, I mean, also with, I still, I kind of lost track of what's happening when Mike Johnson started speaking about how they had found a way to not pay certain federal workers for low pay.
I saw that as well.
And I don't know what's going to come, if that's going to be a major issue or not.
I remember them mentioning that a couple weeks ago.
Brian in Waco, Texas, calling for an end to the 60-vote filibuster in the Senate.
You heard the president saying the same in the Oval Office yesterday.
Tom, Pennsylvania, Democratic caller.
Hi, Tom.
unidentified
Hi.
Thank you for having me.
The best way to do this is get both people in the middle of the Congress sit there, have them all sit down together and talk about it and get it done right then and there live on TV so that we, the people that knows what's going on.
Because right now, the Republicans don't want to sit down with the Democrats.
It's an absurd ruling because you have a federal judge effectively telling us what we have to do in the midst of a Democratic government shutdown, which what we'd like to do is for the Democrats to open up the government.
Of course, then we can fund SNAP, and we can also do a lot of other good things for the American people.
But in the midst of a shutdown, we can't have a federal court telling the president how he has to triage the situation.
We're trying to keep as much turned on.
We're trying to keep as much going as possible.
The president and the entire administration are working on that, but we're not going to do it under the orders of a federal judge.
We're going to do it according to what we think we have to do to comply with the law, of course, but also to actually make the government work for people in the midst of the Democratic government shutdown.
If they would like to end this, we would be welcome.
We would welcome working with them to end this government shutdown, and then we wouldn't have to triage what we're going to fund and what we're not going to fund.
The vice president at the White House yesterday on a judge's order to fully fund the SNAP benefits.
We're getting your message to Washington this morning as we are in day 38 of the government shutdown and a 15th vote to open up the government is expected to happen in the upper chamber today.
Tune in to C-SPAN's gavel-to-gavel coverage on C-SPAN 2.
You can also watch on our free video mobile app, C-SPANNOW or online on demand at c-span.org.
Eddie in Millbury, Massachusetts, a Republican.
Eddie, good morning.
unidentified
Good morning.
I understand Secretary Powell of the Fed said $2 trillion deficit spending is unsustainable.
Here is Jeffries in the House trying to extend a trillion and a half trillion dollar expansion because of the Joe Biden virus.
I thought the virus, the COVID, was over.
Why would they want to expand it?
We can't sustain more spending.
Then they say judges should tell Donald to pay them where they collect the money for.
The filibuster is there because of the expansion in the debt ceiling.
It is stymied at 38.
They want to up it up into the 40.
That's how it's filibustered now.
That's how government shut down.
The problem with that is, as they say, if there's not a catastrophe, create one.
So what is virus, COVID, got to do with the airlines, with food stamps?
All right, Angela, tune in to C-SPAN 2 today when there is another test vote on moving forward with opening up the government to see what your party does.
Democrats sound like they're united and they will block it once again.
Well, this morning, your message to Washington on government shutdown, we are in day 38 today, and we will continue with your calls here in just a minute.
But in case you missed it yesterday, here's a portion of the video message former Speaker Nancy Pelosi released when she announced that she would not seek re-election in 2026.
Because of your trust, I was able to represent our city and our country around the world with patriotism and pride.
I say to my colleagues in the House all the time, no matter what title they have bestowed upon me, Speaker, leader, whip, there has been no greater honor for me than to stand on the House floor and say, I speak for the people of San Francisco.
I have true loved serving as your voice in Congress.
And I've always honored the song of St. Francis, Lord, make me an instrument of thy peace, the anthem of our city.
That is why I want you, my fellow San Franciscans, to be the first to know I will not be seeking re-election to Congress.
With a grateful heart, I look forward to my final year of service as your proud representative.
As we go forward, my message to the city I love is this: San Francisco, know your power.
We have made history.
We have made progress.
We have always led the way.
And now we must continue to do so by remaining full participants in our democracy and fighting for the American ideals we hold dear.
In doing so, we ensure that our city shines on as a beacon of hope, justice, and peace.
A video message from the former Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, after serving many decades in the House announcing that she would not seek re-election in 2026.
We sat down with Susan Page, who is USA Today's Washington Bureau Chief and also the author of a biography on the Madam Speaker.
And that was a conversation that took place in 2022 after she stepped down from her leadership role in the House.
If you missed that, you can go to our website, c-span.org.
Go to the video library, put in Nancy Pelosi's name.
You will see that conversation.
And it includes many, many moments from our video archives of her tenure in the House of Representatives.
c-span.org.
Back to our conversation about the government shutdown on day 38.
Leah in Anderson, South Carolina, Republican.
Leah, good morning.
unidentified
Good morning.
For years, the Democratic Party have used their constituents, their voters, as puppets.
And right now they're doing so.
They're not for their constituents.
They're trying to get more things for the illegal folks that have been allowed to come in here.
That's what they're working for.
When all alone, all they do is keep alcohol, tobacco shops, and abortion clinics in the African American communities, thinking that will keep them happy.
Okay, Rocco in Georgia, Republican, with his argument about why Democrats are blocking an effort to open up the government.
In case you missed it, yesterday at the White House, President Trump announced a deal with pharmaceutical companies to lower weight loss drug prices for many Americans.
Until now, neither of these two popular drugs have been covered by Medicare for weight loss, and they've only rarely been covered by Medicaid.
They've often cost consumers more than $1,000 per month, and some a lot more than that.
Americans have been spending as much as 520% more for ZEP bound and 1,400% more for WeGovie than patients in Europe.
Think of that.
1,400% more than a patient you're for the exact same box.
And that ends starting today.
The other countries are not happy with us.
I don't think they like me too much, Bobby, but that's okay.
Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk are committing to offer Zepbound and WeGovie at most favored nations rates for American patients.
This will slash the cost of WeGovie from $1,350 a month to ultimately $250 a month.
$1,350 to $250.
Did I do a good job?
They're all right about it.
You know, they like to not write these things.
And reduce, you think anybody, you think Biden could have done this?
I don't think so.
And reduce the monthly cost of Zepbound from $1,080 to $346.
In addition, they're both committing that future GLP-1 weight loss drugs taken orally, which are currently under development, will be sold at no more than $149 per month.
It's a massive, think of that.
You go from $1,300 to $149 a month.
We anticipate these new versions will be coming out in a very short period of time.
All of these drugs will be available directly to the consumer at trumprx.gov.
President Trump announcing a deal on weight loss drugs at the White House yesterday.
You can watch what he had to say in its entirety if you go to our website, c-span.org.
Rick in Caseyville, Illinois, Democratic caller.
Rick, we're talking about the shutdown this morning.
What are your thoughts on it?
unidentified
Well, I think it's kind of sad with the Republicans and the Democrats with this pity stuff.
Johnson should say, I don't, we need to bring our Republicans to the fore, and we should put the Democrats to the fore and have it on TV and let them, let the people speak.
I think they did speak to tonight.
A lot of the Republicans, I mean, you know, and the Democrats.
I think they should get back because I got a lot of people work for the government and they ain't getting paid and they got house payments, they got car payments, and they had to feed their kids.
It ain't right.
It ain't right at all.
I think they should get there and pass it, not because I want it.
The Republicans do want it too.
And they speak to tonight.
I just wish Johnson get off his high horse and come down and talk to the Democrats.
And I hope they have it on TV like Tom did talking about.
But thank you for taking my call and God bless America.
Robin California, a Republican, with his thoughts.
As we said, there is a 15th vote in the Senate today, a test vote put forward by Senate Majority Leader John Thune, gavel to gavel coverage on C-SPAN 2.
So tune in for that vote.
And there is also contemplation of a weekend session for the senators, keeping them here in town to continue to work on opening up the government.
That has not been finalized, but the Senate Majority Leader held a vote yesterday afternoon at 5 p.m. Eastern Time, an indication that possibly this could go into the weekend, these negotiations or votes on opening up the government.
The vote yesterday at 5 p.m., though, was on a proposal that would have required congressional approval before President Trump could take military action against Venezuela.
Here's a portion of the remarks ahead of the vote by Democratic Senator Tim Kaine, the measure's lead sponsor.
There may be members in this body who believe that we should be at war with Venezuela, just as there may be members in this body who believe we should be at war with narco-traffickers in the Caribbean and the Pacific.
And there is a simple solution for that that is consistent with the Constitution.
And that solution is for U.S. senators to draft up an authorization for use of military force and have the backbone to put their own names on it if they believe a war is a good idea.
But the framers of the Constitution firmly believed that we should not be at war.
We should not be risking our troops who are on all these platforms right now, their life and their health.
We should not be risking them without a debate and a vote in Congress.
The framers took this position in such an unusual way in 1787.
In all the other countries around the world, the ones they were familiar with, the initiation of war was a matter for the executive.
But the framers of the Constitution, as I've said before, even with George Washington as the president, a great military leader who they revered, they said a decision about war is too important to put in the hands of one person.
And thus the initiation of war should be for the Article I legislative branch, not the Article II executive branch.
And that has been consistent constitutional language that is very unique.
Most nations still put the decisions about war in the hands of the executive, not the legislative branch.
And I've been a stickler about this, whether the president has been a Democrat or Republican.
Senator Tim Kaine, talking about his resolution on the floor, now it failed, 49 to 51.
Senators Rand Paul, Republican of Kentucky, Lisa Murkowski, Republican of Alaska, were the only Republicans to support it.
The Associated Press with this headline: Trump administration announces 17th deadly strike on alleged drug boat.
The Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on Thursday announced another deadly U.S. strike on a boat he said was trafficking narcotics in the Caribbean Sea.
The attack Thursday killed three people aboard the vessel, bringing the death toll from the Trump administration's campaign in South American waters up to at least 69 people and at least 17 strikes.
So, that debate happening on the Senate floor today at 2 p.m. Eastern Time, we're going to hear from the Defense Secretary.
All right, and Oliver, tie this to the government shutdown.
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I'm telling you, that's what a part of this, his stitch is this government shutdown is not, he doesn't want to cooperate because it makes Vladimir Putin very happy that the American people are stuck where they are.
But first, after the break, with the economy a major factor among those who worked for Democrats this week or voted for Democrats this week, Committee to Unleash Prosperity Stephen Moore, a former advisor to President Trump, discusses the president's handling of the economy.
We'll be right back.
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He joins our host, renowned author and civic leader David Rubinstein.
And I started to realize that this odd little old manuscript contained, you know, the seeds of one of the most extraordinary stories of survival and mayhem I had ever come across.
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