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greta brawner
We want to get your reaction to this this morning.
Edwin, a North Carolina Democratic caller.
Edwin, what do you say?
unidentified
I'm saying that Donald John Trump, unless these things are finalized, doesn't deserve anything.
Because of the fact of the matter is, you have a person who's in line with Mike Johnson that gets on C-SPAN and smiles when a lady who's a dependent of an active duty person has to go on a soup line for food because of this budget scenario.
And then Mike Johnson has the nerve to say that a female who goes to an emergency room, her bill is going to be paid less than an undocumented or citizen.
In 1985, Ronald Reagan signed a law stating that if anybody shows up in the emergency room to get Medicare, that bill has to be paid.
greta brawner
All right, Edwin, let's stick to the Nobel Peace Prize conversation this morning.
We're going to talk about the government shutdown day 10 coming up on the Washington Journal.
But when it comes to the Nobel Peace Prize, what do you say?
unidentified
He doesn't deserve it.
As far as I'm concerned, it's all this chatter, everything else not taking care of our country here in North America.
That's my view.
greta brawner
Okay, Edwin there, Democratic caller in North Carolina.
The Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, was on the Washington Journal yesterday.
He sat here in the studio and took our viewer phone calls.
First time a speaker has done that in many years.
And we'll show you what he had to say to a military mom that called in during yesterday's program.
That's coming up on the Washington Journal.
Eric in Texas, Independent.
Eric, good morning to you.
What do you say this morning?
President Trump not the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize.
unidentified
Good morning.
greta brawner
Morning.
unidentified
Well, what I would say is people who win the Nobel Peace Prize don't publicize a thousand times that they want it.
They're usually surprised when they get it.
And another thing, how do you win the Nobel Peace Prize when you're blowing people up in boats outside of the country in international waters without any due process for them?
And I think we should give him a runner-up prize.
So we should give him the Nobel Prick Prize.
greta brawner
Eric in Texas, the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, announced this morning at 5 a.m.
The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided the award for 2025.
This is from their post on X.
The Nobel Peace Prize would go to Maria Carina Machado for the tireless work promoting democratic rights for the people of Venezuela and for her struggle to achieve a just and peaceful transition from dictatorship to democracy.
That this morning from AnX from the Nobel Peace Prize Committee.
Bill in Ohio, Republican.
Hi, Bill.
unidentified
Good morning.
Well, I don't think you deserve it at all with all stuff going on.
You got, we're like a third world country having our own Army kids coming in fighting against us.
You know, and that's terrible.
And I don't let you know.
greta brawner
You mean because of the sending the military to U.S. cities?
You don't think he deserves it because of that?
unidentified
No, there's more to it, but I won't have time to tell you all that.
But how could he do that when our country is all the way down right now?
We got people hungry, need insurance, all that.
So how could he get that?
Did he promote it for himself?
And just like that one caller say, that's going to come to you.
Big surprise.
You know, I know that's something you want to put on his wish list there, but been a Republican, though.
I don't like the way he's doing things right now.
I think he pushed that, he pushed it and pushed it.
Then I want to know the wars he stopped.
You know, let me know them wars that he stopped.
I don't know the ones he stopped.
You know, I only did some this war here and they had in Iraq, but he hadn't did anything in Russia against Kuwait.
So he haven't done anything about that yet.
So that's why I would have seen, you know, but no, he don't deserve it right now.
And the polls showing it that he don't.
greta brawner
Okay.
Bill in Ohio, a Republican.
The Nobel Peace Prize from NobelPrize.org.
How it started.
When the inventor, entrepreneur, and businessman Alfred Noble died, his will stated that his fortune was to be used to reward, quote, those who during the preceding year shall have conferred the greatest benefit to humankind.
Nobel's prize would reward outstanding efforts in the fields that he was most involved in during his lifetime: physics, chemistry, physiology, or medicine, literature, and peace.
Jake in New York, Democratic caller.
Jake, good morning.
unidentified
Hi, good morning.
How are you doing today?
greta brawner
Doing well.
What do you think about this news this morning?
unidentified
First, I want to be very clear that there's reporting from Al Jazeera yesterday that the Israeli army actually strikes Gaza even after this so-called agreement.
So let's just be very clear.
Israel does not want to have any form of peace at this moment.
Now, while Hamas are monsters, I completely agree.
The problem is that this war is not even close to being solved.
And there's been no deal or no finalization of how they're going to come to this agreement between now and to the end.
The first phase has shown that it's been a failure.
And for Mr. Trump, just keep stating that now he's tacking on another war he has solved.
We have still seen no documentation about how these other wars have been solved.
So we can keep talking about this on and on.
But right now, peace in the Middle East is something that's been going on, or the concept of trying to solve it has been going on for years and years.
And I have seen nothing for that to change.
And let's remember, this is not about the hostages, the Benjamin Net Yahoo, anymore.
This is about raw power, and this will continue as long as possible.
So thank you very much for my time.
And let's see how this continues.
greta brawner
All right, Jake in New York, Democratic caller with his thoughts.
Front page of the Wall Street Journal this morning.
The national papers noting that Israel has approved the deal for ceasefire in Gaza.
Accord with Hamas could spur plan for war's end.
That is the front page of the Wall Street Journal.
As that caller noted, Al Jazeera noted this on their front page of their website, Gaza City residents set to return as Israel bombs before ceasefire starts.
So that's the headline from Al Jazeera that Jake was noting.
There's also this from the Horetz newspaper out of Israel.
Gaza's ceasefire takes effect as IDF completes pullback and hostages slated for release within 72 hours.
Bob in Rhode Island.
unidentified
Bob, good morning.
From the provincial newspaper.
greta brawner
Bob, you have to listen and talk through your phone.
Mute that television.
unidentified
I'm listening.
I'm listening.
greta brawner
Then it's your turn.
unidentified
Go.
Well, yeah, because I'm watching it, too.
I've got to turn that off now.
greta brawner
Yep.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hello, Greta.
greta brawner
Morning.
All right, Bob.
I'm going to put you on hold, see if we can get this straightened out.
Robin in Maryland, Republican caller.
Hi, Robin.
unidentified
Hi, good morning.
Thank you for taking my call.
I absolutely think he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.
He has stopped or been very instrumental in stopping a war.
Big deal.
He's bringing our hostages home.
Huge deal.
He has all of the Arab nations, all of them, supporting this deal.
How does an American president get all of the other countries to support Israel and the peace talk?
He is an amazing person.
And I just want to say it breaks my heart to hear all of these callers that hate Trump so much, they don't want to see the President of the United States get the Nobel Peace Prize.
It's just pure hate of Trump that makes people say, no, he doesn't deserve it.
So thank you very much for taking my call.
greta brawner
All right.
There is Robin.
And we'll go to Kevin next.
He's in Maryland, Democratic caller.
Hi, Kevin.
unidentified
Hey, good morning, Greta.
I guess there's a couple of points.
I think Donald Trump's, just as a general person, is probably going to go down as the most divisive president in American history.
I mean, you just look at the country at large and how they faction people against each other, really, for their own political gain.
In my 55 years, I've never seen our country continue.
We're back into this chaos.
It's this unrest everywhere, just in our own country, all this divisiveness.
And these folks who always say, oh, they just hate Donald Trump.
It's because everything he does is he divides us.
He never tries to unite us.
And I'm talking bipartisan.
This is the first guy in my lifetime who spends his entire time trying to divide the American people.
And then the second thing is those who say, oh, he's solved these eight wars, not one person could name two of those wars.
We don't even know what he's talking about.
And because he's so dishonest all the time, you don't even know what's true and what's not true.
And the last point is we sat back for nine months, 65,000 Palestinians, most of them women and children, Donald Trump has sat back and let Bibi Netanyahu and the far-right government in Israel just annihilate innocent people.
Hamas is animals and they're terrible, but we sat back and 65,000 children, women, innocent people have been slaughtered while we sit back and then he kind of swoop in and say, oh, we're going to solve this.
Let's wait five years and see what out of all these things, which still stands, and then maybe consider something like that.
Barack Obama, Pop, thank you.
greta brawner
No, go ahead and finish your thought, Kevin.
All right, we'll go to Randy in Wisconsin, Republican.
Randy.
unidentified
Yes, good morning, Greta.
Thank you.
Okay, how about the Pakistan-Indian War?
He solved that one.
How about what he did with Iran?
Just a name of a couple of wars that he stopped with Iran and Israel.
I mean, a lot of these Democrats, they're the ones that are these sizes that are causing all this trouble here.
I mean, get on board, guys.
Now, as far as the Nobel Peace Prize goes, the Nobel Peace Prize is a democratically run institution.
Take that Nobel Peace Prize and put it on the shelf and just turn it into a dust collector.
Because what it should be from now on, and it's something that President Trump could start.
How about the Trump Peace Award?
It's a peace award that goes to anybody.
Just a peace award now.
I'm not talking about anything with schooling or anything else, but the Nobel Prize does, but it could go to great presidents that were at peace.
For instance, Roosevelt, Truman.
How about President Reagan?
You know, after the wall came down.
There's another good one.
And it'd be a Trump peace award that would be handed out through a committee.
And it'd be called the Trump.
President Trump would probably be one another reception of it.
Look what he's done.
tylease alli
Okay.
unidentified
He's for peace.
greta brawner
All right, Randy, take a look at what Axios put together about these eight wars that President Trump references.
Second term, Gaza deal, Israel versus Iran.
This was reported previously.
The peace agreement announced Wednesday arrived two years after Hamas's October 7th attack, with more than 67,000 Palestinians killed.
Axios previously reported.
Negotiations to finalize the deal took place in Egypt.
The U.S. was represented by Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner, negotiators from Israel and Hamas, as well as mediators from Middle Eastern countries.
The phase one deal was based on the 20-point peace plan Trump unveiled last week.
Hamas agreed to release the remaining Israel hostages while Israel is set to withdraw troops from the Gaza and observe a ceasefire.
Armenia and Azerbaijan, the two countries who have fought a series of conflicts since the late 1980s, signed a peace agreement in early August at the White House.
Democratic Republic of Congo and Rwanda.
The conflict in eastern Congo has lasted for decades in various forms, causing a massive humanitarian crisis and displacing millions of people.
In June, the U.S. brokered a peace agreement that was signed at the White House.
However, little has changed on the ground since the agreement, seen in reports.
The Congolese Army and the Rwandan-backed M23 rebel group have since accused each other of violating the agreements by launching attacks and building up troops.
Israel and Iran, troop bombed the Iran troop, Trump bombed Iran during the 12-day war in June, but later brokered a ceasefire between Israel and Iran to end the conflict.
The White House has claimed the strikes stalled Iran's nuclear program, delayed any potential conflict.
Israel has said it may attack Iran again if Tehran starts to rebuild.
Trump has teased fresh talks with Iran over nuclear weapons, but those have not come to fruition yet.
India and Pakistan.
Trump announced a full and immediate ceasefire in May for the two countries after world leaders called for peace following a brief conflict.
The two countries have been facing rising tensions over the disputed Kashmir region, and in May, the Indian military launched deadly attacks on Pakistani targets.
Cambodia and Thailand.
In July, the two countries agreed to an unconditional ceasefire after a five-day cross-border conflict from his first term.
Egypt and Ethiopia, the African neighbors, were in diplomatic standoff over Ethiopia's Grand Ethiopian Renaissance dam on the Nile River for years as Egypt feared the dam would threaten its water supply.
It never turned violent.
No peace agreement was signed.
However, Trump claims there would have been a war if he hadn't intervened when he tried to broker a deal.
Serbia and Kosovo, these two nations have had territorial disputes since Kosovo declared its independence from Serbia in 2008, and Serbia refused to recognize Kosovo's independence.
In 2020, Trump brokered a limited peace agreement, a short-term economic normalization deal called the Washington Agreement between the two countries.
Axios is reporting on these eight wars President Trump claims he has ended.
Let's go to Janice in North Carolina, an independent.
Janice, your turn.
unidentified
Good morning.
Yeah, Trump does not deserve the Nobel Peace Prize.
There's no reason for that whatsoever.
What he does deserve is a nice, cozy little prison cell.
He declared that on day one, the war in Ukraine, which has turned out to be a genocidal war, which the Russians invaded Ukraine, he doesn't even realize he declared that that would be over on day one.
And what's happened?
Tens of thousands more people have died.
And he doesn't even realize that Russia invaded Ukraine.
He had it just the opposite.
He thought that Ukraine invaded Russia.
I think his mind is gone.
Okay, we also have genocide happening with Israel attacking Gaza.
They're not just going after Hamas.
They're going after all the Palestinians there.
They have converted all of Gaza, which used to be a beautiful place long before the conflicts.
It used to be a beautiful place, and now it's all rubble.
greta brawner
All right, Janice.
Let me go to CJ, who's in Virginia, Democratic caller.
CJ, what are your thoughts this morning?
President Trump not receiving the Nobel Peace Prize.
unidentified
No, it would be a joke if he received one.
And it's embarrassing how badly he wants it.
You know, he's got all his henchmen and people that have been manipulating him for years and years, like Netanyahu, who all he has to do is show up at the White House, hand Trump a piece of paper that says, you know, I officially nominate you for, you know, the Nobel Peace Prize, because, you know, nobody has done it better than you.
Usually peace, from an American point of view, it starts at home.
And the man has literally said that there's an enemy within, but only people that are really smart, like him and Pete Hegset, can ferret out, the enemy within.
So we've got to keep going to these cities, turning them upside down.
And that's in the name of peace.
It'd be curious, Greta.
We've seen all these perp walks of almost exclusively Latinos, with, I think, some Africans, if my eyes are seeing right.
You can go into any Irish bar in D.C., New York, Boston, Philly, Chicago.
And Chances are, if it's a Friday night and there's three firemen on duty, there's three people right there that you could round up and send to like El Salvador or to all right CJ, we're going to stick to the Nobel Peace Prize this morning.
greta brawner
It was announced earlier this morning at 5 a.m.
President Trump not awarded the Nobel Peace Prize this morning.
And the New York Post notes this, that President Trump lost out on earning this year's Nobel Peace Prize despite brokering a historic ceasefire agreement between Israel and Hamas, more than two years of war.
But it wasn't a snub, more just a case of bad timing, they say.
The five-member Norwegian Nobel Committee made its decision on Monday, two days before the peace deal was struck, to bestow the award to the Venezuelan opposition leader, Maria Corina Machado.
We receive thousands and thousands of letters every year of people wanting to say what for them leads to peace.
Nobel Peace Prize Committee chair said on Friday, this committee sits in a room filled with portraits of all laureates.
That room is filled with both courage and integrity, and we base only our decision on the work and will of Alfred Noble.
Let's listen to Marco Rubio, the President's Secretary of State, yesterday, or Thursday, yes, Thursday, in the cabinet room.
He had this to say about President Trump's legacy.
marco rubio
One day, perhaps, the entire story will be told about the events of yesterday, but suffice it to say, it's not an exaggeration that none of it would have been possible without the President of the United States being involved.
It really began with your trip to the Middle East, where these relationships were forged with partners in the region, personal relationships, close relationships that created the foundation where all of this was possible.
Where I think this really took a turn.
Remember, a month ago, no one thought this was possible.
Where it really took a turn about a month ago, less than a couple weeks ago, is when we were at the United Nations, and you convened a historic meeting, not simply of Arab countries, but of Muslim-majority countries from around the world, including Indonesia, was there, Pakistan was there, and created this coalition behind this plan.
Then on that following Monday, you met with the Prime Minister of Israel here, and that plan was presented.
And then, of course, our great negotiating team followed up on it.
In the interim, again, perhaps the stories will be told, perhaps they will never be told.
The president had some extraordinary phone calls and meetings that required a high degree of intensity and commitment and made this happen.
And I think what's important to understand is that yesterday what happened was really a human story.
There's a geopolitical aspect to it, there's no doubt about it.
It creates the conditions for Gaza to one day be a normal place again and people to have a better life and Israelis to be safe.
But yesterday was a human story.
And because of the work you put it, and honestly, there is no, not only is there no other leader in the world that could have put this together, Mr. President, but frankly, I don't know of any American president in the modern era that could have made this possible because of the actions you have taken unrelated to this and because of who you are and what you've done and how you're viewed.
And this weekend, because of that, at some point very soon, we are going to see 20 living human beings emerge from the darkness into the light for the first time in two years.
And that is because not only were you, you used the credibility and the power and the prestige of this office and the relationships you created, and you committed yourself to making it happen.
And I think it will go down as a historic moment in the history of our country and something our country should be very proud of.
greta brawner
Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, in with the President in the Cabinet Room during a meeting this week.
We're getting your thoughts on President Trump and should he have won the Nobel Peace Prize.
Was announced this morning at 5 a.m. that he did not.
And instead, it was a Venezuelan activist who won the award this year in 2025.
Let's go to John in Virginia, Republican, and get your thoughts on this.
John, good morning.
unidentified
Well, as far as this year's prize, no, he shouldn't have gotten it.
The Nobel Peace People have a they select people who create peaceful conditions internationally or who domestically can help express a point of view or help or stand for a way which would mean peace and progress in a country.
So it varies.
Now, next year, if this particular agreement holds and if there's progress on it and the results can be seen as effective, I think the Nobel Committee will have a lot to people can legitimately question the Nobel Committee, Nobel Committee decision not to award him next year, especially if this agreement holds.
It was too soon for this year, next year, and some of those other conflicts, the Congo's up in the air a little bit.
He did have something to do with the India-Pakistan and the Cambodian business.
And there was an Azerbaijan-Armenia agreement that he and May had something to do with.
But I think, like I said, next year, if this agreement holds and things are moving ahead, I think the committee is going to have a lot to answer for if it doesn't give him the prize.
greta brawner
All right, John in Virginia.
John mentioning why the Nobel Peace Prize is given out and what type of person generally receives it.
Take a look from the NobelPrize.org website about this year's winner.
Maria Carina Machado keeps the flame of democracy burning amidst a growing darkness.
And they post this on the website.
She has led the struggle for democracy in the face of ever-expanding authoritarianism in Venezuela.
Ms. Machado studied engineering and finance and had a short career in business.
In 1992, she established the ENEA Foundation, which works to benefit street children in Caracas.
Ten years later, she was one of the founders of Sumate, which promotes free and fair elections and has conducted training and election monitoring.
In 2010, she was elected to the National Assembly, winning a record-numb number of votes.
The regime expelled her from office in 2014.
Ms. Machado leads the opposition party and in 2017 helped found the Soy Venezuela Alliance, which unites pro-democracy forces in the country across political dividing lines.
Let's go to Terry and Iowa, Independent.
Terry, we'll hear from you.
Should President Trump have won the Nobel Peace Prize?
unidentified
Absolutely.
There's no doubt in my mind he'll win it next year, like the guy just said before me.
I have one comment to make, though.
I wish you could contain your giddiness.
It's unreal what you do every time you get on here with Trump.
I'd like to see what you'd act like if he'd have won it, Greta.
greta brawner
All right, Terry, Terry and Iowa, Independent.
Jesse in Maryland, Democratic caller.
Jesse?
unidentified
Good morning.
Good morning, Greta.
greta brawner
Good morning.
unidentified
I'm going to see Ralph to back.
They should never, ever give him a war like that.
Excuse me, but get a war.
You got to do something.
So far, he's complaining about the work he's doing.
If his job is too hard for him, let him find another job.
Thank you.
greta brawner
All right, Jesse.
We'll leave the conversation there for now.
This morning now, we're going to turn our attention to day 10 of the government shutdown.
The House has not been in session since mid-September.
The Senate has taken numerous votes.
They took another round of votes yesterday, and then they left for the weekend.
So we are headed into a third week, third work week of a government shutdown next week.
We're going to get to your thoughts on the government shutdown day 10 in just a minute.
But first, tonight, C-SPAN launches Ceasefire, a new weekly series that takes a different approach to political conversation.
I had a chance to talk with the host, Dasha Burns, about the inaugural program.
dasha burns
All right.
Come on in.
tylease alli
Let's check out these.
dasha burns
It looks a little different.
unidentified
Yeah.
dasha burns
So this is where the magic happens.
greta brawner
All right.
unidentified
The red, the blue, the arrows, coming to the middle.
dasha burns
Carpet even color-coded here.
greta brawner
Nice.
dasha burns
So yeah, this is the ceasefire.
This is it.
This is it.
greta brawner
7 p.m. debuts tonight.
dasha burns
That's right.
greta brawner
Who are the guests?
dasha burns
All right, we have for our inaugural episode former Republican Vice President Mike Pence and Ram Emmanuel, obviously a Democrat, former chief of staff to Obama, former ambassador, and former Chicago mayor.
But guess what?
They actually both served in Congress together for six years.
They were neighbors in their offices.
And so they've got some history.
unidentified
What should our viewers expect from tonight's episode?
dasha burns
They should expect some hearty debate because obviously they don't agree.
But what we've gotten our guests to commit to is civil dialogue to try to see each other's perspectives and to bring a little charm, a little zest for us.
unidentified
You talked about the set, but is there some symbolism here with these arrows?
greta brawner
What should viewers read into this?
dasha burns
Well, you know, I considered wearing a purple suit.
I decided not to, but a little too on the nose.
But red and blue together pointing towards the middle, trying to find some common ground, trying to see where they might agree, where they might, I don't know, maybe even illuminate a new perspective for each other.
We're going to talk about news of day.
We're going to talk about big picture.
There's, of course, a lot that's happened this week that both is uniting and dividing our country.
So we'll get our guests on all of that.
And we've got Sean Spicer and Fez Shakir, Bernie Sanders advisor and former campaign manager on the show as well.
All right.
unidentified
Well, good luck.
dasha burns
Thank you so much.
All right.
greta brawner
Ceasefire debuts tonight, 7 p.m. Eastern Time.
We're back here this morning on the Washington Journal, turning our attention to.
unidentified
We're going to leave this to take you live to the U.S. House, scaffolding in for what's expected to be a brief session on day 10 of the government shutdown.
No votes are planned.
The House will be in order.
mike bost
The chair lays before the House a communication from the Speaker.
tylease alli
The Speaker's Rooms, Washington, D.C., October 10th, 2025.
I hereby appoint the Honorable Mike Voss to act as Speaker Pro Tempore on this day.
Signed, Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House of Representatives.
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