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| Welcome back. | ||
| We are in day six of a government shutdown, and we are hearing more of your thoughts on that. | ||
| We will start with Edward, who's calling from Chicago, Illinois, on the line for independence. | ||
| Good morning, Edward. | ||
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Oh, yes. | |
| How are you? | ||
| Doing well, Edward. | ||
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Yes, what I was saying, these people in Washington, Washington is the most isolated region of the country. | |
| Everything that they get, all the information they get, they sit in these beautiful buildings and they get the information from people who are like the most incompetent people ever, you know, and they get this information. | ||
| They don't know how to make the correct decisions, you know. | ||
| They failed our nation. | ||
| Our nation is completely like everything is in disarray. | ||
| You can look at the public roads. | ||
| Look at how they look at the infrastructure of the cities. | ||
| Everything is, you know, all these politicians are corrupt. | ||
| You know? | ||
| That was Edward in Illinois. | ||
| Susan, calling from Virginia, line for Republicans. | ||
| Good morning, Susan. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| How are you? | ||
| Doing well, Susan. | ||
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My question is this. | |
| When I see the amount of money that is spent literally in each state's budget, it shows numbers for how much was spent on housing illegal immigrants, doing their laundry, getting them Uber rides to and from appointments. | ||
| Why is not every news outlet publishing the state published budget? | ||
| I can go to any state website and see the budget, money that is spent on illegal immigration. | ||
| Why is the news media not putting that out there so everyone can see this is not Republicans making up stories? | ||
| This is true fact of the amount of taxpayer dollars that is spent on illegal immigration. | ||
| Susan, you're calling from Virginia. | ||
| Have you looked at the numbers for the Virginia budget for what you're talking about? | ||
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Well, Virginia is a little difficult. | |
| Virginia wraps it into social services. | ||
| So there's nothing specific as far as immigration, housing, asylum seeker is how it's termed in most states. | ||
| I was able to find Massachusetts. | ||
| I was able to find Texas. | ||
| I was able to find California. | ||
| And then, of course, I looked up Virginia. | ||
| But again, Virginia, it's kind of wrapped into that social services budget. | ||
| So you don't know if the money's being spent on U.S. citizens with children, Medicaid for children of U.S. citizens, or immigrants. | ||
| It's kind of that one's kind of a skewed number, but there are reports under each state's budget from prior years that the media reported. | ||
| I'm going to get your point, Susan. | ||
| We'll go to Janet in Arizona, Line for Independence. | ||
| Good morning, Janet. | ||
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Hi. | |
| I'm so upset that our government, both Democratic and Republican, have made a quagmire out of America. | ||
| We've lost our memory about all of the assassinations and issues with our history in government, and it's come to a point where you just don't know who or what to trust. | ||
| I feel very upset because back in the day when Ronald Reagan was in position, our rate for interest and things was up to 17% for a mortgage. | ||
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Has everyone forgotten about how he fired all the air controllers, and we've never gotten over it? | |
| What is wrong with our government? | ||
| Is it the human being that's flocked? | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| That was Janet. | ||
| Nathan is calling from Maryland on the line for Republicans. | ||
| Good morning, Nathan. | ||
| What are your thoughts on the government shutdown? | ||
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Good morning. | |
| I just think that it's very difficult to pay these subsidies. | ||
| I think being $38 trillion in debt, that the subsidies in general are difficult, and just the cost of health insurance just being so high that I think it's just unavoidable. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Nathan, what do you want to see Congress do then? | ||
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I'm thinking I want to see the continuing resolution passed to continue, but I would ideally love to come up with a different way to see more competition in health care instead of relying on taxpayer subsidies to keep the premiums down. | |
| That was Nathan. | ||
| Let's hear from Deborah, who's calling from also Maryland on the line for Democrats. | ||
| Good morning, Deborah. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| My comment is that it just seemed like it is an in-house fight, and people like me have to just sit and wait for other people to make a decision on your livelihood. | ||
| They make a decision if you're black, you're female, you're male, all that has to do with keep I'm trying to keep a job. | ||
| That's the only thing I'm trying to make sure that my bills is paid, my taxes is paid, and it just looks like it's just we're looking at an in-house fight that we really don't can't don't have anything to really make a change other than when we vote. | ||
| And then on that, everybody that is fighting, our congressmen and women and all that stuff, they're still getting paid. | ||
| And then we're still sitting up, we're waiting up here, waiting for them to make a decision about, you know, government should just keep going on whatever their difference is. | ||
| Let them figure it out as long as we get our paychecks and, you know, just to have a simple life. | ||
| We're not trying to be millionaires or billionaires. | ||
| They don't need to see a paycheck coming in all the time. | ||
| And it's just that sometimes you get tired of Looking at two groups of people making decisions as if the common person, well, I mean, everyday people can't make a decision on their own. | ||
| That was Deborah in Maryland. | ||
| We are discussing the government shutdown, day six, and some other news. | ||
| Wanted to note, this is from the New York Times. | ||
| Secretary of State Marco Rubio said Sunday that the United States was hoping for a quick deal to bring home all hostages in Gaza as Israel and Hamas head into a new round of negotiations fraught with potential stumbling blocks. | ||
| Says Mr. Rubio acknowledged to NBC's Meet the Press that the next phase of negotiations on President Trump's plan to end the Gaza war would be tougher, touching on fraught issues such as disarming Hamas and setting up a new government for Gaza that excludes the Palestinian militant group. | ||
| It was yesterday that Mr. Rubio made those comments on NBC's Meet the Press. | ||
| Here's a clip. | ||
| Well, not yet. | ||
| There's some work that remains to be done. | ||
| And I would view it in two phases in terms of understanding how to break this out. | ||
| The first piece of it, which was very clear from the letter and Hamas's response, is they have agreed to the president's hostage release framework. | ||
| And what needs to happen now, and they acknowledge in the letter in their response is there now needs to be meetings which are occurring even as I speak to you now and hopefully will be finalized very quickly on the logistics of that. | ||
| What that means is, you know, who goes in to get them? | ||
| Is it Red Cross? | ||
| You know, when do they show up, et cetera? | ||
| You know, what place are they going to be? | ||
| And the conditions have to be created for that to happen. | ||
| You know, you can't have bombs going off and fighting going on in the middle of this exchange. | ||
| So that's piece one. | ||
| The second part, and we want to see that happen as soon as possible. | ||
| All 48 hostages, both living and deceased, and there's some need to be released. | ||
| And there's some logistical challenges to that that we'll have to work through. | ||
| But that work is happening even as I speak to you this very moment. | ||
| The second part of it, it's even harder, and that is the long-term peace. | ||
| What happens after Israel pulls back to the yellow line and potentially beyond that as this thing develops? | ||
| How do you create this Palestinian technocratic leadership that's not Hamas, that's not terrorists, and with the help of the international community? | ||
| How do you disarm any sort of terrorist groups that are going to be building tunnels and conducting attacks against Israel? | ||
| How do you get them to demobilize? | ||
| All that work. | ||
| That's going to be hard, but that's critical because without that, you're not going to have lasting peace. | ||
| You may get the hostages back. | ||
| You may get a cessation of hostilities, but in the long term, it's going to happen all over again. | ||
| So both are going on at the same time. | ||
| But priority number one, the one that we think we can achieve something very quickly on, hopefully, is the release of all of the hostages in exchange for Israel moving back to that yellow line, which is basically where they stood at the middle part of last month of August. | ||
| And that's the one we're focused on. | ||
| Even as I speak to you now, there are people meeting on that. | ||
| Maurice is calling from Montgomery, Alabama, on the line for independence. | ||
| Good morning, Maurice. | ||
| What are your thoughts on the shutdown? | ||
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My thoughts on the shutdown, this country is going to be one of the main five countries that God's going to judge the hardest because this country has been a lot of wrong and people of color in this country and the courts, especially old judges, they're going to get it too when God strikes down and just because they have done wrong. | |
| They don't abide by the Constitution. | ||
| They show more favoritism. | ||
| And I wanted to ask that lady that worked in the Supreme Court is that on the civil issue, they show more favor to them on civil society. | ||
| Court procedures go through the procedures. | ||
| They'll rule against that person on summer judgment and get their case throwed out. | ||
| And then when they get appealed to the next level, I don't know what's going on. | ||
| They're agreeing with the other judges. | ||
| And then when you try to take it to the Supreme Court, you got the clerk office, don't even want to hear the case. | ||
| That was Maurice in Alabama. | ||
| Mary's calling from Massachusetts on the line for Republicans. | ||
| Good morning, Mary. | ||
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Hi, good morning. | |
| I'm calling to talk to you a little bit about my father, who was a World War II civet and was a government from the 1950s all the way until he retired. | ||
| He was often complaining about government waste. | ||
| He was a comptroller for the Army. | ||
| He lost that job when he pointed out the government waste. | ||
| And then he ended up being sent to Micronesia, where he was also managing their budgets. | ||
| Then he went to the Metropolitan Police Department managing their budgets and retired out of the Navy as a government worker. | ||
| But in every single case, when he brought up government waste, he got pretty much removed from his job. | ||
| And as a child who grew up in Washington, D.C., I could see the government waste just when I would go to federal buildings and see people hanging around, especially in the library of Congress. | ||
| And then lastly, and the amount of waste in the patent office is ridiculous. | ||
| So that's all I have to say. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| That was Mary in Massachusetts. | ||
| We will get back to your calls in just a few moments. | ||
| But first, we want to talk with White House, with Newsweek White House correspondent Daniel Bush about the shutdown from the angle of the White House. | ||
| Daniel, thank you so much for joining us this morning. | ||
| Thanks for having me, Tammy. | ||
| It's now day six of the government shutdown. | ||
| Senate will be in later today. | ||
| The House is no longer expected to come back this week. | ||
| What are you hearing from White House officials about the strategy going forward? | ||
| You know, it's day six, as you said. | ||
| We're only one week into this, but here at the White House, there's a lot of confidence that the White House Republicans are on the right side of this politically. | ||
| They feel that they have given Democrats a clean CR, which they have, a clean, continuing resolution to fund the government. | ||
| They feel that they're in the driver's seat here and that they can basically sit back and wait for Democrats to cave. | ||
| As you said, the Senate is in this week. | ||
| We do expect them to hold another vote to reopen the government later today. | ||
| The House is out. | ||
| Speaker Johnson said over the weekend, Tammy, that he will call the House back, give them a 48-hour notice if there is a vote. | ||
| But we don't expect that in the next day or two. | ||
| And again, the White House, President Trump and his team feel right now that they can afford to wait this out for a while longer. | ||
| They've been out messaging over the weekend, and we'll hear more from them this week about how this is a quote Democrat shutdown, as they put it. | ||
| They feel comfortable letting Democrats take the blame. | ||
| And Democrats, for their part, have continued to say that Republicans can come to the negotiating table. | ||
| They can offer what Democrats want, which is an extension of health care subsidies. | ||
| But right now, Tammy, on day six, these two sides are very, very far apart. | ||
| And with the White House where it is in Congress trying to work this out amongst themselves, are there any more planned meeting with congressional leaders there at the White House? | ||
| That's the big question. | ||
| Not right now. | ||
| There is an expectation that perhaps by midweek, if the two sides are still not negotiating, that is, if the leaders in the House and Senate from both parties are not getting together and talking, that perhaps President Trump will ask them to come to the White House, which he did recently to try and meet again. | ||
| But that first meeting did not go very well. | ||
| Leaders came out of that nowhere closer to a deal that was before the shutdown technically started. | ||
| There was not a lot of communication in the Oval Office between the leaders in terms of how they were going to work it out. | ||
| President Trump himself did not take a firm position on the health care subsidies, which is what Democrats are most interested in. | ||
| So we may see a meeting later on this week. | ||
| The pressure will build both on leaders in the House and Senate to start negotiating. | ||
| Sources are telling me right now that that is not even happening. | ||
| So if it's Wednesday, if it's Thursday, if there still isn't a real negotiation going on, we may see Trump call them back to the White House to try and jumpstart the process. | ||
| The idea of laying off federal workers as the shutdown continue, that idea has been floated. | ||
| What are you hearing from OMB about potential timing for these workers, these federal workers? | ||
| When could that happen? | ||
| They're working on that right now. | ||
| OMB is putting together those plans. | ||
| That work was going on over the weekend and last week. | ||
| Federal agencies are still waiting to see exactly when those plans are going to drop. | ||
| But President Trump has hinted for several days now and even signaled very clearly, I should say, that if this continues, Russ Vaughat at OMB is going to start laying off more federal workers. | ||
| We don't know exactly when that's going to start. | ||
| There are a couple milestones to watch. | ||
| Next week, the 15th, I believe, is the first day that members of the military will miss a portion of their first paycheck. | ||
| That's something to watch to see whether they can come to a deal before that. | ||
| If that doesn't happen, we could expect those increased layoffs to happen really any day now. | ||
| And I can tell you from speaking to sources and agencies here in Washington, there's a lot of concern among federal workers about getting laid off any moment. | ||
| There are text messages chains going around that I've seen where federal workers are just sort of on pins and needles waiting to get that riff, that layoff or furlough notice from their bosses. | ||
| Other news going on in addition to the shutdown, President Trump has ordered National Guard to several cities across the country, Memphis, Chicago, and Portland. | ||
| A judge has issued a ruling blocking, temporary blocking President Trump's plan to send any state's National Guard troops to Portland itself. | ||
| Has the Trump administration responded at all to that? | ||
| So this is a developing story. | ||
| As you said, that judge ruled that the Trump administration could not federalize the National Guard, that it did not meet the legal threshold. | ||
| The Trump administration is arguing that it has, that protesters in Portland are not allowing the federal government to carry out its immigration enforcement duties, which is the legal threshold to federalize the National Guard. | ||
| A judge threw that out and said, no, that's not the case. | ||
| You know, President Trump's claims of a war-torn, a war-ravaged Portland are vastly exaggerated, and that, in fact, law enforcement in that city can go about doing its job, that these protests are pretty small. | ||
| Over the weekend, we saw President Trump announce that he was now going to send the California National Guard to Oregon. | ||
| Governor Newsom in California has announced that he will sue to block that. | ||
| So there's a lot of moving pieces here, but what we're seeing is not just in Portland, already in New York, in Los Angeles, the Trump administration is doing everything it can to send National Guard troops to these cities to argue that they're being overrun with crime, that they're out of control, that it's the fault of the Democratic Party. | ||
| And at every turn, they've been stopped, but they've continued to do that. | ||
| So we're waiting to see exactly how the Trump administration responds in Portland itself. | ||
| But this is going to continue to happen, this debate over how to use these troops and how the Trump administration can respond. | ||
| It's going to continue to play out for the rest of the year in other cities as well as Portland. | ||
| And another story we are following is the Gaza peace talks. | ||
| What are you hearing in terms of timing for a potential hostage release? | ||
| Could it be this week? | ||
| All sides want it to be this week, Tammy. | ||
| President, excuse me, Prime Minister Netanyahu over the weekend says that he does not want these negotiations to last more than a couple of days, in his words. | ||
| The White House is very eager to get this done. | ||
| President Trump views this as an important part of his legacy, this sort of peacemaking image that he's been casting about himself and his administration since taking office again, trying to end wars. | ||
| He's made it no secret that he wants a Nobel Peace Prize for that work. | ||
| So the White House, I can tell you, they really want to get this done. | ||
| Steve Wickoff, the peace envoy who's in charge of this process for the Trump administration, is en route to Egypt right now. | ||
| That's where these indirect talks between Hamas and Israel are going to take place with the U.S. playing an intermediary role. | ||
| Qatar, other allies as well are stepping in to get this done. | ||
| Those negotiations are going to begin today in earnest. | ||
| And again, what all sides want here is a release of what we believe to be 48 remaining hostages, some of them deceased, some of them still alive, perhaps by Wednesday, by Thursday. | ||
| That's the goal. | ||
| But there's a lot of stumbling blocks here at Tammy still, including whether Hamas agrees to demilitarize. | ||
| That was a core condition in the Trump peace plan that the president laid out last week. | ||
| It's a core condition for Israel. | ||
| It's unclear yet whether the group will agree to that in the end. | ||
| But right now, these host negotiations are underway. | ||
| Ron Dermer, the top negotiator on the Israeli side, is also in Egypt. | ||
| So we're waiting to see now what comes out of that today and tomorrow. | ||
| And one last question for you. | ||
| It's another issue on President Trump's calendar. | ||
| That is, Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney is visiting the White House this week. | ||
| What are they expected to discuss? | ||
| So Kearney is under intense pressure to alleviate tariff pressure on Canadian steel and aluminum in addition to other goods. | ||
| This has been an ongoing discussion. | ||
| The White House is eager to get a deal done with Canada because Canada is one of our most important trading partners. | ||
| So Kearney will come here under political domestic pressure to get a deal done. | ||
| Trump is in the driver's seat, if you will. | ||
| He can afford to sit back and wait to get the best possible conditions. | ||
| But there is mounting pressure on the Trump administration as well. | ||
| Remember, earlier this year, Trump rolled out global tariffs on virtually all countries, as well as specific targeted tariffs on a lot of close trading partners. | ||
| He said those deals would come quickly. | ||
| There have been behind the scenes negotiations, but so far, the administration has not gotten the amount of deals done that it said it would at the pace that it would. | ||
| So whether or not a deal is announced during Kearney's visit, that's unlikely, but both sides do want to move on this pretty quickly. | ||
| Daniel Bush is a White House correspondent for Newsweek. | ||
| You can find his work online at newsweek.com. | ||
| Daniel, thank you for your time this morning. | ||
| Thanks for having me. | ||
| Back to your calls, getting your thoughts on this day six of the government shutdown. | ||
| Let's hear from Billy's calling from New York, Line for Democrats. | ||
| Good morning, Billy. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| How are you? | ||
| Doing well, Billy. | ||
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The other question I have is, the government shut down, but yet they're still getting paid and I'm still paying taxes. | |
| So if the government is shut down, why am I still paying taxes? | ||
| Who am I paying it to? | ||
| People are out of work. | ||
| Politicians aren't out of work. | ||
| And yet they're adults and they can't figure out how to run a country without shutting it down. | ||
| See the rest of this at our website, cspan.org. | ||
| We're going to take you live now to Capitol Hill. | ||
| The U.S. House is about to gavel in for what we expect to be a brief session today. | ||
| No votes or debate is expected. | ||
| Live coverage on C-SPAN. |