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| We'll get to your calls here in just a minute. | ||
| Let's go back to more from both sides. | ||
| We'll begin with JD Vance, the vice president, who made a rare appearance in the White House briefing room yesterday. | ||
| To the American people who are watching, the reason your government is shut down at this very minute is because despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of congressional Republicans and even a few moderate Democrats supported opening the government, the Chuck Schumer AOC wing of the Democratic Party shut down the government because they said to us, we will open the government, but only if you give billions of dollars of funding for health care for illegal aliens. | ||
| That's a ridiculous proposition. | ||
| Let me say two other quick things, and then again, I'll take some questions. | ||
| Number one, we all understand that Democrats and Republicans have policy disagreements. | ||
| Democrats want to do things. | ||
| Look, when Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries were in here a couple of days ago, they made some suggestions that the president was more than happy to say, yes, let's sit down and talk about how we can solve the health care crisis that we inherited from the Biden administration. | ||
| But it's one thing to say that we should solve the health care crisis for Americans. | ||
| It's another thing to say that we're going to shut down the government unless we give the Democrats every single thing that they want, which as Caroline says, includes giving billions of dollars of taxpayer funding for health care for illegal migrants. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| You don't have policy disagreements that serve as the basis for a government shutdown. | ||
| Let's have the conversation about how to fix American health care, about how to make health care more accessible. | ||
| As the president showed, he's more than willing to act on behalf of the American people for this very reason. | ||
| What you don't do is say, unless you do exactly what we want to do as congressional Democrats, we're taking hostage. | ||
| And the hostage, it turns out, is critical, essential services that the American people need. | ||
| Caroline talked about some of it. | ||
| Let me talk about some more. | ||
| Our troops are not getting paid starting today because of the Chuck Schumer wing of the Democratic Party. | ||
| We have people who require food assistance, low-income Americans who require food assistance who will not get it unless we reopen the government thanks to Chuck Schumer and his wing of the Democratic Party. | ||
| We have flood insurance as we start hurricane season in the southeastern part of our country. | ||
| That flood insurance is going to disappear because of Chuck Schumer and the far left of the Democratic Party. | ||
| We need to reopen the government. | ||
| Let's fix America's problems. | ||
| Let's work together to solve them. | ||
| But let's reopen the government before we have our negotiation about health care policy. | ||
| That's what the American people demand, and that's certainly what the President of the United States wants. | ||
| The vice president at the White House yesterday, now across Pennsylvania Avenue at the U.S. Capitol, both parties held dueling news conferences. | ||
| Here's the Democratic leader in the House, Hakeem Jeffries. | ||
| At midnight, Donald Trump and Republicans shut the federal government down because they don't want to provide health care to working class Americans. | ||
| Leader Schumer and myself met with President Trump and legislative leaders on Monday. | ||
| We had a conversation that was designed to avoid a painful government shutdown and address the Republican health care crisis. | ||
| Subsequent to that meeting, we heard nothing from any of the legislative leaders on the Republican side. | ||
| And the president has been engaging in irresponsible and unserious behavior, demonstrating that all along, Republicans wanted to shut the government down. | ||
| That's no surprise because for decades, Republicans have consistently shut the government down as part of their efforts to try to extract and jam their extreme right-wing agenda down the throats of the American people. | ||
| Democrats have repeatedly made clear we are ready to sit down with anyone at any time and at any place in order now to reopen the government, | ||
| to enact a spending agreement that meets the needs of the American people, and to address the devastating Republican health care crisis that has caused extraordinary harm on people all across the country in rural America, working class America, urban America, small town America, the heartland of America, and black and brown communities throughout America. | ||
| The Republican health care crisis is devastating, the likes of which no one has ever seen. | ||
| You've heard from both sides on day two of the federal government shutdown. | ||
| We're going to go back to the Capitol. | ||
| Joining us this morning is Reese Gorman, Politics Reporter with notice to give us the latest on day two. | ||
| Let's begin with what is actually happening where you are in the U.S. Capitol this morning. | ||
| What's on the agenda today? | ||
| Yeah, so Speaker Mike Johnson is going to hold a press conference at 10 a.m., something that he's doing to kind of message what they think that Republicans are in the right in the shutdown here and that they are trying to reopen the government. | ||
| As far as that, not much. | ||
| With the Jewish holiday, Yom Kippur going on right now, both chambers are not expected to be in session today. | ||
| Senate is expected to come back tomorrow, maybe Saturday, to take some more votes on the continuum resolution. | ||
| But the House will not be in session until Monday at the earliest next week to kind of start dealing with government funding. | ||
| And we'll see what they can do. | ||
| In their minds, they've already passed the funding bill, so it's up to the Senate, but they're still going to get in, get back here and have some talks. | ||
| So this government shutdown lasts until at least tomorrow, Friday. | ||
| When the Senate comes back, explain for viewers who have not been paying attention here, what have they been voting on to try to fund the government and avoid the shutdown. | ||
| It has not worked so far, but what are they voting on? | ||
| Yes, so every time since, they've been voting on two continuing resolutions since their first week they left. | ||
| They vote on a Democratic-led resolution, which will fund the government for the same period of time, but has some add-ons. | ||
| It strips the Republican reconciliation bill that passed on July 4th of its Medicaid cuts that are in the bill. | ||
| And then it also extends the current Affordable Care Act enhanced subsidies that were brought to light under COVID. | ||
| That's when they happened here. | ||
| And now they expire at the end of the year. | ||
| And so that bill has continuously failed with only Democratic support in the Senate. | ||
| And then also they've been voting. | ||
| After that bill fails, they immediately go back up for another vote on the GOP-led CR that the House passed earlier in September prior to all this happening. | ||
| And that has continuously failed as well. | ||
| They voted twice or three times, I think, on that too. | ||
| The first time it passed with only one Democrat or two Democrats voting for it. | ||
| This time it now has three Democrats voting for it the past two times. | ||
| And so it's been failing 45 to 55 because in the Senate you need to meet a 60 vote threshold for the bill to advance. | ||
| And so right now they're trying to find at least five more Democrats to come onto the continual resolution with them to vote for it. | ||
| That does not seem to be happening. | ||
| Talks in MD seem to be going in a positive direction. | ||
| And they've been throwing out some ideas. | ||
| Mike Johnson has kind of swatted some of those ideas down because the House would then have to pass if they changed the CR at all. | ||
| But right now there doesn't seem to be really any positive talks moving forward to continue funding the government. | ||
| And they need eight Democrats because Senator Ram Paul, Republican, is not voting for any continuing resolution. | ||
| Rhys Gorman, we're showing on our screen this morning a huddle that happened on the Senate floor yesterday. | ||
| It's a bipartisan group of senators all talking while they were holding votes. | ||
| Is this a sign that there could be compromise? | ||
| Well, us as reporters definitely read into that. | ||
| But afterwards, we kind of, some of my colleagues, we talked to the senators that were in that huddle. | ||
| There did not seem to be much positive movement moving forward. | ||
| There were preliminary talks about possibly maybe doing a shorter term CR by a couple days to give some more leeway to kind of negotiate the Affordable Care Act subsidies, which is something the Democrats are really kind of hounding on here. | ||
| But it didn't seem that anything productive came with this conversation, nothing fruitful. | ||
| There's nothing that kind of shows us that there is a deal in the works other than just some people having talks. | ||
| So right now I think that it is way too early to tell that there is really anything going on positive that could fund the government, especially coming from those talks that we saw on the Senate floor yesterday. | ||
| Who is Russell Vogt? | ||
| And what have we heard from him as we enter day two of this government shutdown? | ||
| So he's the White House Office of Management and Budget Director, which basically he runs the budget for the federal government, for the executive branch, basically. | ||
| So all the agencies, all of that, that's his purview. | ||
| He has been making this shutdown as painful as possible for Democrats, which both Trump, Russell Vogue, and Republicans say that this is on the Democrats. | ||
| They're like, they believe that they are the ones that shut the government down. | ||
| So now they're going to cut programs. | ||
| They've cut multiple green kind of energy projects, about $8 billion worth from Democratic-led states. | ||
| They cut about $18 billion in infrastructure projects in New York, which is where both Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries are from. | ||
| So they've done that. | ||
| And then Vogue also held a call with House Republicans yesterday, which sources tell me was basically laid out his plan to lay off federal workers. | ||
| He said in about one to two days, they'll start doing reduction of force or rifts, which are basically layoffs at these agencies. | ||
| He laid out how the WIC program, which is the women, infant, and children food program, is almost out of money because of this shutdown and how there's nothing that the executive branch can do about it without new funding, without extending funding. | ||
| And so he laid out just kind of where things stand right now. | ||
| But he is planning on starting to lay off a significant number of federal workers because of this, something that they had promised before the shutdown ever happened. | ||
| It was something they warned was going to happen if the government were to shut down. | ||
| And he's also starting to cut some of these federal kind of grant federal monies that are going out. | ||
| And that's something that even Mike Johnson, I talked to him and he was like, hey, you got to make decisions during a shutdown. | ||
| And it makes sense that President Trump would want to cut programs that are not in line with his values with his agenda. | ||
| So Republicans are fully on board with what is happening right now. | ||
| Some might be a little skeptical, being like, maybe this isn't the best look, but for the most part, they're like, well, like, this is what you said was going to happen. | ||
| And people did not heed his warning, and now it's what's happening during a shutdown. | ||
| Reese Gorman with a notice and an update for us on day two of the government shutdown. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Let's go to calls. | ||
| Dave in Long Island Independent. | ||
| Dave, what do you say about this federal government shutdown? | ||
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Yes, good morning. | |
| My comment is based on the first government shutdown during the first Trump administration. | ||
| Now, to remind everybody, Senator Schumer was responsible for that. | ||
| He made an unrealistic demand of amnesty. | ||
| He shut down the government. | ||
| It didn't last long, just a few days. | ||
| It was really insignificant. | ||
| And then he reopened the government in return for an extensive debate on the subject, which was later rejected on a bipartisan effort. | ||
| So Senator Schumer, so Senator Schumer knows what's an unrealistic demand because he's been there. | ||
| He's done that. | ||
| And everybody could verify this for himself. | ||
| So Dave, are you talking about the three-day shutdown in 2018 during President Trump's? | ||
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Yes, I am. | |
| It was very short. | ||
| It was over the weekend. | ||
| It was insignificant. | ||
| But my point is it was later rejected on a bipartisan basis when they had the extensive debate. | ||
| So my point is Senator Schumer knows, or he should know at this time, he's very experienced, what's realistic and what's unrealistic. | ||
| So Senator Schumer, with his experience, has to understand that this is probably going to cause a shutdown. | ||
| He's asking for a big bite, and there's no urgency on this. | ||
| So I would say any negativity that results of this is solely on Senator Schumer because he has to know this. | ||
| He knows this. | ||
| He's shut the government down before, and he knows when he's being unrealistic. | ||
| All right, Dave. | ||
| Let's do a little history here. | ||
| This is history.house.gov with the source. | ||
| And both sides have shut the government down. | ||
| In 1990, it was shut down for three days under President Bush. | ||
| President Clinton had a couple of shutdowns. | ||
| President Obama, 16 days during his second term, and then two shutdowns during President Trump's first term. | ||
| Three days in 2018, Dave was just speaking about that. | ||
| And 35 days, the longest, in 2018, and it seeped over into 2019 as well. | ||
| And you recall President Trump was demanding that the funding for the wall be included in that shutdown. | ||
| So policy changes have been demanded by both sides in order to keep the government up and running. | ||
| Patricia in Minneapolis, Republican, Patricia, good morning. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| I noticed what you did there, C-SPAN, and I have a few points, so please let me speak. | ||
| When you were showing the video of JD Vance, it was very much sped up, and his lips were not in sync with the audio. | ||
| Patricia, Patricia, we didn't speed up the video. | ||
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Okay, because I watched it live and it wasn't that fast. | |
| All right, here's my second thing. | ||
| It's the Sumer shutdown, and I love it. | ||
| I love what we're going to get rid of a bunch of unnecessary federal workers that's going to save us billions, and it will probably help the agencies run more efficiently. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| And the other thing, Schumer is doing this because he's afraid AOC is going to primary him for his position as senator. | ||
| So he's playing both things. | ||
| Very, very selfish of him to put America through this just because he wants to appease AOC, who's the Democrat shining star, if you can believe that. | ||
| But yeah, love it. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| All right, Patricia. | ||
| It's going to be a nightmare for the Democrats, and they're all set to do a lot of things they played right into their hands. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| Thank you, President Trump. | ||
| Best president I have ever had in my lifetime, and I'm in my 70s. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Patricia, Republican in Minneapolis, calling this the Schumer shutdown, and she says she loves it. | ||
| This is what Democrats say they would like in this shutdown. | ||
| They have two key requests that they are making for this shutdown. | ||
| What they are saying is they want an extension of pandemic era expansions of Obamacare premium subsidies and then spending guardrails to prevent the Trump administration from ignoring congressional spending directives. | ||
| Now, Chuck Schumer, the Democratic leader in this Senate, was on the floor yesterday. | ||
| This is what he had to say. | ||
| Donald Trump and Republicans have barreled us into a shutdown because they refuse to protect Americans' health care. | ||
| It's clear that the way out of this shutdown is to sit down and negotiate with Democrats to address the looming health care crisis that faces tens of millions of American families. | ||
| Democrats want to avert this crisis, but Republicans tried to bully us, and it's clear they can't. | ||
| They don't have the votes. | ||
| The way out of this is for Republicans to finally roll up their sleeves and get to work. | ||
| Republicans need to get serious and start actually addressing the looming crisis and reopen the government. | ||
| Now, why has all of this happened? | ||
| Why are we here on October 1st? | ||
| Because Republicans have tried to stick us with a partisan CR that fails to protect Americans' health care and does nothing, nothing to fix the health care mess that they created. | ||
| It has now failed twice to get enough votes in this chamber. | ||
| So Republicans need to negotiate with us. | ||
| And Speaker Johnson's got to get his people here. | ||
| If anyone wanted evidence as to who wanted this shutdown, just look at the fact that Johnson does not even have the House in session. | ||
| When Democrats had the White House, the Senate, and the House, when Democrats had the majority in this chamber, when I was majority leader, we never had one shutdown in four years, not one. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because we worked with our Republican colleagues to find a way to keep the government funded. | ||
| Senator Chuck Schumer, Democrat of New York, on the floor yesterday. | ||
| Health care is at the center of this debate for Democrats. | ||
| The Washington Post notes this this morning. | ||
| With the expiration of enhanced tax credits, the Affordable Care Act Marketplace consumers out-of-pocket premiums will increase more than 75% on average. | ||
| This is according to an analysis by health policy group KFF. | ||
| Separately, KFF found that ensures median proposed premium increase for 2026 to be about 18%, more than double last year's median proposed increase of 7%. | ||
| Now, when it comes to Medicaid, Republicans are saying that Democrats are trying to include undocumented immigrants, that that is at the center of their argument here, and they're trying to give them health care access. | ||
| What they're referring to is emergency Medicaid spending. | ||
| So when an undocumented immigrant goes to an emergency room. | ||
| From the Washington Post, according to KFF, emergency Medicaid spending represented less than 1% of overall Medicaid spending between fiscal years 2017 and 2023. | ||
| As KFF experts explain in analysis, without emergency Medicaid, hospitals or state governments would be left with the costs of emergency care. | ||
| Barney in Florida, Democrat, what do you say to Washington on this second day of a government shutdown? | ||
| Barney in Florida, Democratic caller, your turn. | ||
| You got to listen and talk through your phone. | ||
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Are you ready? | |
| All right, moving on. | ||
| Francis, California, independent. | ||
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Oh, there. | |
| So I moved from Texas to California around 20 years ago, 2005, I believe. | ||
| And what I feel about shutdown is I've been very disappointed in a lot of things for a very long time. | ||
| And I feel like Massachusetts, Republican. | ||
| Hi, Eddie. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The congressmen, they're lawyers, see? | ||
| And lawyers, when their lips are moving, you know what happens. | ||
| They say they don't negotiate. | ||
| What do you think congressmen do last week, last month, last year? | ||
| They're there in Congress to negotiate. | ||
| So to say that they won't renegotiate, they're just waiting for the last minute and then they go on strike. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| They don't listen to Secretary Powers, who said $2 trillion is unsustainable. | ||
| We cannot add to the budget as some congressmen want to do, a trillion, a trillion and a half more. | ||
| While one party says, listen, we have to get rid of the waste and abuse. | ||
| We have to cut government. | ||
| The worst thing I've ever heard in the last month was Massachusetts. | ||
| 40 to 45% of the Massachusetts people vote for Republican. | ||
| And yet we do not have one Republican in the Senate or the House. | ||
| That's what called gerrymandering. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| Congress is corrupt. | ||
| Eddie's thoughts there. | ||
| Massachusetts, a Republican. | ||
| Gabriel's an independent in San Francisco. | ||
| Your turn. | ||
| Good morning, Gabriel. | ||
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Yeah, good morning. | |
| The elected officials, they need to do their job. | ||
| This is divided government. | ||
| You know, there's no super majority. | ||
| There's two parties. | ||
| One has a slim majority, and they can't get a bill passed unless they get a minority support. | ||
| That's what's called 60 votes in the Senate. | ||
| So it's natural. | ||
| They have to negotiate. | ||
| That's just the nature of the game. | ||
| You can't dictate, oh, we get to decide everything and you just have to roll over. | ||
| So blaming it on one party is silly. | ||
| They have to work together and find a compromise. | ||
| It's common sense. | ||
| So anyone who suggests that Democrats are responsible for this shutdown is ludicrous because they have a right to negotiate if you want their vote. | ||
| And Republicans have a right to say, hey, we're the majority party, so we get to set the agenda. | ||
| But they have to find a compromise. | ||
| It's just common sense. | ||
| I can't understand this blame game. | ||
| They just need to do their jobs. | ||
| That's bottom line. | ||
| Well, Gabriel, Republicans see a crack in the Democratic unity when they were able to score three two Democrats, one Independent, who voted with them. | ||
| John Fetterman, Democrat of Pennsylvania, Senator Catherine Cortez Masto, Democrat of Nevada, and then Angus King, who's an independent, but he caucuses with the Democrats. | ||
| They were able to get those three to vote with them, so they think they're headed in the right direction and that they don't need to compromise with Democrats. | ||
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Yeah, I mean, I'm sorry, but I just, I believe the American people want results. | |
| They don't want partisan bickering. | ||
| They want a compromise. | ||
| They don't think it's okay for one party to think just because they have a few seat majority that they can act like a dictator. | ||
| They have to work together. | ||
| That's what our system is based on. | ||
| It's based on compromise. | ||
| So I just think they just have to be big boys and girls and roll up their sleeves and find a compromise. | ||
| That's just common sense to me. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Let's listen to Angus King, the Independent. | ||
| He put out a video on Tuesday after he voted with Republicans explaining his vote. | ||
| I just came from the Senate floor where I took one of the most difficult votes I've taken since I've been in the Senate. | ||
| I voted to keep the government open for a continuing resolution. | ||
| The irony of this vote is many feel that this was an opportunity to stand up to Donald Trump, to vote no and to fight back. | ||
| The irony, the paradox is by shutting the government, we're actually giving Donald Trump more power. | ||
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And that was why I voted yes. | |
| I did not want to hand Donald Trump and Russell Vogt and Stephen Miller additional power to decimate the federal government, to decimate the programs that are so important to so many people. | ||
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Here is what Donald Trump said just this afternoon. | |
| We can do things during a shutdown that are irreversible, that are bad for them, he means the Democrats, like cutting vast numbers of people out, cutting things that they like, cutting programs that they like. | ||
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We can do things medically in other ways, including benefits. | |
| We can cut numbers of people out. | ||
| Maya Angelou once said, if someone tells you who they are, you should believe them. | ||
| Donald Trump, in this quote, tells us what he plans to do if there's a shutdown, and it will not be good for the American people. | ||
| This was a difficult vote, but in the end, I could not, in good conscience, vote to shut the government down and hand even greater power to the trio of Donald Trump, Stephen Miller, and Russell Vogt. | ||
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This was a vote of conscience on behalf of the state of Maine and the people of the United States. | |
| Angus King, independent from Maine, explaining why he voted to keep the government open before it shut down, warning what he thought President Trump and his administration would do once the government shuts down. | ||
| We're in day two of the shutdown, and Russell Vogt, the budget director, sending out these posts on X last night, or yesterday, excuse me. | ||
| Roughly $18 billion in New York City infrastructure projects have been put on hold to ensure funding is not flowing based on unconstitutional DEI principles. | ||
| More info to come soon, he said on that. | ||
| And then he also said in the afternoon, nearly $8 billion in green new scam funding to fuel the left's climate agenda is being canceled. | ||
| More info to come. | ||
| The projects are in the following states. | ||
| California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Vermont, and Washington State. | ||
| Let's go to Jim, who's in Winter Park, Florida, Republican. | ||
| Hi, Jim. | ||
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Good morning, Greta. | |
| Good morning. | ||
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You know, I just want to say you read an article a couple of minutes ago about that Medicaid does not get used for illegal aliens. | |
| And then, at the very end, it said that they did this study, and less around 2% of the money was used because the medical people, the people that went to the hospitals in the emergency rooms, didn't have insurance. | ||
| They weren't American citizens. | ||
| So the government pays them through Medicaid to help these people. | ||
| 2% of $1 trillion is $200 million. | ||
| Okay, just some clarification, Jim, and then I'll come back to you, Jim. | ||
| One second. | ||
| So less than 1% is what the Washington Post reports. | ||
| And what Washington Post and other news outlets are saying is that they're not on traditional Medicaid, but they do use this emergency Medicaid program in our nation's emergency rooms. | ||
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Go ahead. | |
| You are using the same words that Democrats use. | ||
| We're not spending the money on them. | ||
| All right, less than 1%, $900,000. | ||
| That is American money being spent on illegal aliens. | ||
| Point closed. | ||
| They're spending money on illegal aliens that should not be here in the country, that should not be getting any benefits. | ||
| If they're getting benefits as Medicaid money, they're getting benefits for other things too. | ||
| And nobody is telling the truth. | ||
| Now, I don't believe that the Republicans are telling all the truth. | ||
| I don't believe the Democrats are telling all the truth. | ||
| But we've got to stop candy coding the stuff that people are getting so that it makes it look like the Republicans are being the bad guys. | ||
| You know, about two weeks ago. | ||
| Yeah, Jim, the point is there's nuances to both sides of their arguments, right? | ||
| That's that, I mean, Republican Democrats are saying this is going to, the ACA subsidy is going to affect trillions of, or excuse me, it's trillions of dollars. | ||
| It's going to affect people who are on ACA. | ||
| That's their negotiating pitch, right? | ||
| They want the Republicans to work with them on that. | ||
| And Republicans are saying, and on Medicaid cuts that were put in the one big beautiful bill. | ||
| And Republicans are saying, well, they want to give some of that money to undocumented immigrants, so we're not going to negotiate. | ||
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So, illegal aliens, not undocumented, undocumented immigrants. | |
| Okay. | ||
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They're illegal. | |
| They came across the border without going through the ports of entry. | ||
| They crossed the border illegally, illegally, not undocumented. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This is the debate that's been going on for 40 years. | ||
| And I'm going to say one other thing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Pedro had Congressman Pallone on from New Jersey a couple of weeks ago. | ||
| And the first two questions that he was asked was the health care problems and immigration. | ||
| And both answers, all he said was they're both broken. | ||
| Well, let me tell you, he's been in Congress for 27 years. | ||
| And what is his job? | ||
| To fix immigration, to fix health care. | ||
| What has he done? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| They don't do anything. | ||
| The government being shut down is great because these jerks are just jerking everybody off. | ||
| That's all they're doing. | ||
| All right, Jim, his thoughts on Winter Park, Florida. | ||
| Some news to share with you this morning on the government shutdown. | ||
| Hill newspapers reporting lawmakers expect the shutdown to drag on for at least a week. | ||
| From the Hills reporting, the Senate rejected votes to reopen the government on Wednesday, and the chamber will be out of session on Thursday in observance of Yom Kippur. | ||
| The Senate will return Friday, but few expect the vote that day on the House GOP measure to fund the government to have a different result. | ||
| Two Democratic senators and Independent Senator Angus King voted for the measure for a second time on Wednesday, but Republicans would need another five Democrats to reach 60 votes, the threshold needed to send the measure to President Trump. | ||
| Democrats say votes won't be there because Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer has made it clear he won't support it. | ||
| And he would face a huge political backlash if he flip-flopped. | ||
| Both sides digging in their heels. | ||
| Brenda in Indiana, Democratic caller. | ||
| Brenda, what do you say? | ||
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Hey, good morning, Greta. | |
| Morning. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| I'm very glad that you cleared the record on the government shutdown. | ||
| Donald Trump did have the longest shutdown of 35 days, and you were correct as to the reason. | ||
| Donald Trump wanted more money than Congress would allow to build the wall that Mexico was going to pay for. | ||
| So Mexico was supposed to pay for the wall, and Congress wouldn't give Donald Trump all the money he wanted to pay for the wall. | ||
| Second, on Medicaid, I was just listening to the previous caller talking. | ||
| You said $900 million spent on Medicaid for undocumented illegal immigrants. | ||
| Think about this for a minute. | ||
| All the undocumented illegal immigrants, $900 million spent on emergency care. | ||
| Do you think over the course of time that these illegal immigrants are in our country, do you think they pay $900 million in sales tax? | ||
| Sales tax on clothing, on food, things they buy at Walmart, household furnishings. | ||
| Do you think the amount of sales tax that they pay just to live in the United States exceeds that $900 million? | ||
| I'm going to say yeah. | ||
| Okay, Brenda, let me ask you this. | ||
| React to the Washington Post editorial. | ||
| Democrats marched into a shutdown trap. | ||
| The editorial board argues. | ||
| The public has proved to be unsupportive of lawmakers who create unnecessary crises to extract political concessions. | ||
| Democrats who quietly favor a shutdown dismiss this as trite conventional wisdom. | ||
| Republicans haven't been afraid of hardball politics, and they have seemingly suffered no meaningful consequences for it. | ||
| So why not play their own game, especially when Democratic voters are eager to see elected officials stand up to Trump? | ||
| The answer is simple. | ||
| The Freedom Caucus' tactics have failed to achieve Republicans' goals every time. | ||
| There is no reason to think this shutdown will end any differently for its left-wing counterpart. | ||
| The most likely outcome is that Democrats will come to regret having walked into a trap. | ||
| Brenda? | ||
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I don't really agree with that. | |
| I'm siding with the Democrats on this because I don't think, excuse me, Guy, I have a little froggy throat here. | ||
| Yes, I don't think the Democrats believe they can trust anything that the Republicans say. | ||
| The Republicans have gone back on so many things they have agreed to, it's almost like it's a no-win situation. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And so getting back to, I want to talk about Trump's big, beautiful bill. | ||
| You know, this big, beautiful bill was going to be the end-all-be-all to our financial woes. | ||
| It was going to cover everything. | ||
| That's why they wanted everything in one bill. | ||
| It was going to cover everything. | ||
| So they knew that this deadline was coming up. | ||
| So since this big, beautiful bill was going to cover everything, why wasn't this period of time included? | ||
| We wouldn't be here if Donald Trump's big, beautiful bill covered everything that they claimed it was. | ||
| Okay, Greta, I got to let some other callers in. | ||
| Diane in Philadelphia, Independent. | ||
| What do you say, Diane? | ||
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Good morning, Greta. | |
| Good morning. | ||
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Well, I think the Republicans are at fault for what is going on. | |
| I listened to them speaking yesterday, and nothing in what they had to say indicated they were going to compromise. | ||
| And they're really blaming it on the Democrats. | ||
| And there's no room for compromise in what they're saying. | ||
| Also, I really do think that we ought to be paying for medical care for illegal immigrants. | ||
| I don't want to sit on a bus next to somebody who might have tuberculosis that they brought from another country. | ||
| So there you go. | ||
| Okay, Diane in Philadelphia. | ||
| Susan Milford, Pennsylvania, Democratic caller. | ||
| Hi, Susan. | ||
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Yeah, hi. | |
| What I have to say to President Trump is that you're a bully, you're unfair to people, you're cruel, and I don't like what you're doing. | ||
| As far as the Democrats with this protest, what's going on, I do believe that health care is out of priced, that my son was on the Pennsylvania program. | ||
| If it's going to go up at ridiculous price, it's not fair. | ||
| He needed it when he heard he had an accident and had some sort of accident that catches you by surprise. | ||
| If he had to pay it himself, it's like over $10,000 just to go to the ER. | ||
| As far as Schumer, I like Schumer. | ||
| I'm glad that he's there leading. | ||
| And I was upset that Federman didn't go along with him. | ||
| Same time, last time the two of them decided not to get in Trump's way. | ||
| But I think Trump is going to get away to do whatever he wants to do, fire people, whatever people he wants to fire. | ||
| He has to be stopped some way or other. | ||
| And Democrats, you know, the Republicans don't want to even negotiate the health care. | ||
| That was the problem. | ||
| From this whole time, since June or July, the Republicans figure they don't even have to negotiate the health care, and it's not right. | ||
| So I'm glad they stopped the government for now. | ||
| Unfortunately, I do believe Trump and his allies would fire everybody anyway that they don't want. | ||
| What about the concern over federal workers here? | ||
| Because here's a headline from Axio. | ||
| 750,000 federal workers risk furloughs in government shutdowns. | ||
| So do you think it's worth this battle over health care? | ||
| Is it worth the federal workers not getting paid while they are furloughed, while the government is shut down? | ||
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Yes, I do, because I don't believe anything that Trump says. | |
| He will get whatever he wants. | ||
| He wants to change the government to Project 2025, and he would not do what he says. | ||
| I don't think he's reliable in what he says, and the people that follow him would follow him whatever he says. | ||
| Okay, Susan. | ||
| Melanie Zanona reports on Capitol Hill yesterday, sending out this. | ||
| Trump's budget director, that is Russell Vogt, told ours this afternoon that reductions in force, that's the federal workforce, will happen in the next one to two days. | ||
| Vogt issued a memo last week threatening mass layoffs in the event of a shutdown. | ||
| That's what he did not outline specifics on that call to Republicans yesterday. | ||
| We're in day two of the federal government shutdown. | ||
| Live coverage here on C-SPAN and a conversation, of course, with all of you on the Washington Journal. | ||
| Dennis, Denise in Freedom, New York, Republican, good morning. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| I just want to repeat that this is just a continuing resolution. | ||
| The Republicans didn't add anything into it. | ||
| The Democrats, I think, are going to regret not just going forward with it. | ||
| I live in the country. | ||
| I have a beautiful 10 acres, and they are clearing land all around to build these windmills. | ||
| So if Trump is able to stop funding for that, I am all for it. | ||
| Let him continue to cut. | ||
| Let Doge kick in. | ||
| Democrats are going to regret this. | ||
| I love President Trump. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Have a good day. | ||
| All right, Denise, talking about the continuing resolution put forth by the House, and it is a so-called clean, continuing resolution. | ||
| It doesn't have any policy riders on it. | ||
| It would keep the government open until later in November so that negotiations could continue over federal government spending. | ||
| Let's listen to the Speaker of the House. | ||
| He too held a news conference yesterday along with his Republican colleagues. | ||
| Here's what he had to say. | ||
| As we speak here this morning, there are hundreds of thousands of federal workers who are getting their furlough notices. | ||
| Nearly half of our civilian workforce is being sent home. | ||
| These are hardworking Americans who work for our federal government. | ||
| Our troops and our border patrol agents will have to go to work, but they'll be working without pay. | ||
| Food assistance, veterans benefits, and vital support for women and children are all coming to a halt. | ||
| Now, thankfully, President Trump is trying to mitigate the damage as much as possible. | ||
| His administration is working to limit the harm to the American people. | ||
| But the longer this goes on, the more pain will be inflicted because it is inevitable when the government shuts down. | ||
| The sad thing about it is that every single bit of this was entirely avoidable. | ||
| Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, yesterday in the Capitol, and we heard from Reese Gorman earlier that the Speaker will hold another news conference today around 10 a.m. Eastern Time on day two of the government shutdown. | ||
| We anticipate that Democrats will do the same. | ||
| And like yesterday, you'll see dueling news conferences on Capitol Hill as both sides continue to point fingers at each other. | ||
| During this government shutdown, as you heard from the Speaker, federal government's federal workers are not at their jobs. | ||
| And so yesterday, that includes the U.S. Capitol and staff. | ||
| So yesterday, Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez posted this video of her doing a job that's typically left to staff. | ||
| So the government is shut down, which means that Capitol tours are closed. | ||
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But we had a bunch of kids from the Bronx and schools that came all the way down here for a tour. | |
| Obviously, no one knew that the government was shut down. | ||
| So I'm giving them a tour. | ||
| Say hi, everybody. | ||
| It is day two of the government shutdown here in the Washington Journal, getting your thoughts and your message to the lawmakers and the president. | ||
| What do you think should happen next? | ||
| Alex in Brooklyn, Democratic Caller. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Thank you for taking my call. | ||
| Just give me a little bit of time, please. | ||
| I just want to explain my reasoning concerning this. | ||
| You know, you just had Mike Johnson on concerning what Trump feels about this shutdown. | ||
| As is a man that can't even recognize that Trump's post on his Truth Social, putting Hakeem Jeffries with a sombrero and a mustache and basically insulting Schumer and the Democratic Party. | ||
| He can't even acknowledge that that shouldn't even be something the president should do. | ||
| And this is what he feels is the appropriate response after a meeting that they had. | ||
| This is the same president that basically two days ago, in front of an unprecedented situation where he had all these generals said that we are going to use Democratic cities as training grounds for military operations for people that he doesn't like. | ||
| You have a whole people on the right side of this country that can't even acknowledge that this past weekend, we had people that were radicalized on the right killing people that are Mormons, killing people that they do not like, this guy in North Carolina out of a boat. | ||
| None of this matters. | ||
| And so you have a whole political system on the right that has basically taken control of this government and this country. | ||
| They are impounding funds. | ||
| It doesn't matter what Democrats say. | ||
| So what I think should happen, and in my opinion, the system is completely broken. | ||
| Democrats should completely extract themselves from this process, completely. | ||
| Let Republicans do whatever it is that they're going to do the way that Trump told Republicans to not do anything and let the voters decide. | ||
| And even though they're gerrymandering, even though they're doing all of this, let them fire everybody they're going to fire anyways in the federal government. | ||
| I'm a small business owner. | ||
| I'm dealing with all of this nonsense and I'm dealing with the repercussions on my end economically. | ||
| People are dealing with higher prices at the groceries everywhere across the country. | ||
| Extract yourselves from this process. | ||
| Let these Republicans do what they're going to do. | ||
| And next year, let's vote. | ||
| And let's see who is going to vote for who. | ||
| Because I do not think that there is any longer any way of being able to talk this out, see a way out of it. | ||
| Republicans are going to lie and say what they are going to say. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Alex's point there in Brooklyn. | ||
| Alex started out talking about an image that the White House put out after congressional leaders, Democratic leader Hakeem Jefferies and Chuck Schumer came to the White House for an Oval Office meeting with the president and the vice president and Republican leaders. | ||
| There's the image of Chuck Schumer at the microphones talking to reporters with his colleague Hakeem Jefferies in a mustache and sombrero. | ||
| That's what they put out yesterday on evening. | ||
| And JD Vance, they put out the image before JD Vance yesterday was asked about it in that White House briefing where he made a rare appearance and he said it was funny. | ||
| The Republicans and Democrats changing, exchanging barbs over who's to blame for this government shutdown. | ||
| Chuck Schumer put out this on X last night, saying that with a headline from People Magazine, the White House will continue construction on a 90,000 square foot ballroom during the government shutdown. | ||
| So the Democratic leader says yes to ballrooms, no to healthcare for Americans. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| We'll go to Roy, who's in Cameron, Texas, a Republican. | ||
| Hi, Roy. | ||
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Good morning, Greta. | |
| How are you doing this morning? | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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What I'd like to ask is, you've shown some videos of Schumer giving his spill and this, that, and the other. | |
| Is it possible that y'all could show the video of Senator Kennedy addressing the Senate? | ||
| He has such a great way of putting things down in a more understandable manner without all the political mumbo jumbo. | ||
| And he explains it very well what's going on. | ||
| I watched that video clip yesterday and I thought it was exceptional. | ||
| Secondly, something to think about because you brought up her name. | ||
| AOC, $40,000 in debt before she went to Congress, got to Congress on $170,000 a year. | ||
| Salary is now a millionaire. | ||
| How does that happen? | ||
| Do the math. | ||
| It doesn't apply. | ||
| Y'all have a great day. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Anthony, South River, New Jersey, Independent. | ||
| Anthony, we're talking about day two of the federal government shutdown. | ||
| What's your message to Washington? | ||
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Okay, Greta, thanks for coming in. | |
| Thanks for C-SPAN. | ||
| All right, here we go again. | ||
| Let's not forget to bring up that the Congress has the lowest ratings out of any branch of government, as usual, and this is why. | ||
| I agree with the lady from Pennsylvania that the costs are skyrocketing in health care. | ||
| And we don't really hear anything about that they're really going to double the usual amount that they raise the price every year on the health care. | ||
| We haven't really heard about that. | ||
| And, you know, the talking points that we hear over and over, that gentleman Jim from Florida, he, you know, he said that, you know, we kind of have these talking points, and it really does brainwash the population, the Americans, into thinking these talking points. | ||
| So I'm going to give you a couple talking points, just two, and I'm going to make it quick. | ||
| So we're talking about all of these people that you hear, they're going to eliminate the ACA subsidies. | ||
| Well, that's not really true. | ||
| They're going to eliminate the enhanced ACA subsidies that were passed in COVID. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| So that's really it. | ||
| So the healthcare, the insurance companies are making out big time. | ||
| We don't hear a word about that. | ||
| And I really object to them saying that we're going to eliminate ACA subsidies or not. | ||
| They're going to eliminate the enhanced HCA subsidies. | ||
| So that's part of it, too. | ||
| Another talking point that I really object to that I've been hearing, I heard one caller call in a couple weeks ago on C-SPAN, and he said, January 6th, three people got murdered. | ||
| I said, oh, yeah, this is another talking point that's really been, nobody got murdered. | ||
| Somebody got murdered on that day. | ||
| Somebody would be charged for murder by Jack Smith. | ||
| Believe me, that would happen. | ||
| But then two hours later, I heard Governor Pritzker say, three people got murdered. | ||
| And then I heard it a couple more times. | ||
| So again, we're getting these talking points in, and people digest that. | ||
| And let's face it, the legacy media, it's not really journalism. | ||
| It's opinion. | ||
| And the vast majority, and it's on both sides with the talking points, the vast majority of the legacy media are Democrat. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| People realized that in the last presidential election. | ||
| Anthony, people need to dig into the arguments from both sides and look into the specifics of what they are saying. | ||
| I'm going to go to USA Today where they note that in two national surveys released September 30th, Americans were more likely to blame Republicans than Democrats for a government shutdown, though results were mixed as to who would be considered most at fault. | ||
| In a separate poll released the same day, Americans had a gloomy view of much of government with more negative than positive takes on President Trump, Vice President JD Vance, and congressional leaders on both sides of the aisle. | ||
| That's from USA Today, as both sides here on the second day of the federal government shutdown continue to point fingers at each other and play the blame game. | ||
| Gene in New York, Democratic caller. | ||
| Gene, good morning. | ||
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Yes, Gerta. | |
| I have a quick question. | ||
| Can the Republicans change the rule of the Senate to pass the budget if they want to? | ||
| Can they change the rules of the Senate to pass? | ||
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Yeah, where they don't need the Democrat to reduce it to 50 if they want to pass it. | |
| Why don't they do that? | ||
| Well, the Democrats are in charge, so Republicans, and to reduce that, I'm not sure what they would have to do. | ||
| But, you know, the newspapers note this morning, try to find the article from the Washington Times, that on budget legislation, you need 60 votes. | ||
| That's the way the Senate is set up. | ||
| And Republicans, you know, have 53. | ||
| So they would need seven Democrats to join them to get over the 60-vote threshold. | ||
| But now, for this continuing resolution, they need eight because Senator Ram Paul, Republican, is not going to vote for any continuation, continuing resolution to extend the federal government. | ||
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I see. | |
| Another thing I want to say, you know, what puzzles me, and I don't know if people who are listening, we can talk about it one day. | ||
| How the Republicans are giving Trump so much power. | ||
| What will they do to stop the same power to transfer to a Democrat president? | ||
| This is what puzzles me. | ||
| I want to see how this whole movie will end. | ||
| How can you give a Republican president so much power? | ||
| However, the same power does not transfer to the next Democrat president. | ||
| This is very interesting. | ||
| This is what I'm waiting to see how this whole movie. | ||
| All right, Henrietta, Fort Paris, Florida, Republican, welcome to the conversation. | ||
| It's your turn. | ||
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Yes, hi. | |
| Good morning. | ||
| I'm just, you know, it seems that what the Democrats are talking about and their talking points, like the young man, two previous callers said, the Democrats are just spewing cuta. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| I think that the president should crush the Democrats. | ||
| He has all this power now. | ||
| Like Angus said, he didn't want to give Trump power, and he did. | ||
| Now, Trump should wield that power, take 30 programs, and tell the Democrats every single day the government is shut down, I will eliminate a program. | ||
| I'm not going to tell you which ones, but I will eliminate it. | ||
| So let's play Russian roulette. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| These Democrats are just not helpful. | ||
| They do what they think is good to their crazy base. | ||
| I believe Trump should show them how power is wielded and crush them because the Democrats do know how to use power. | ||
| They have used it before. | ||
| All right, Henrietta. | ||
| The opinion pages of the Washington Post this morning, this headline, who will win this shutdown? | ||
| Neither side will like the answer. | ||
| The largest federal government shutdown in U.S. history, the 35-day stretch from December 2018 until January 2019, occurred after the 2018 midterm elections. | ||
| Sure, Trump lost the 2020 election, but a whole lot happened between January 2019 and Election Day 2020. | ||
| Compared with the COVID pandemic and the social unrest after George Floyd's death, the shutdown didn't even amount to an asterisk. | ||
| In other words, even if you win a government shutdown fight, hardly anyone will remember in a month. | ||
| Lisa in Palmetto, Georgia, Democratic caller. | ||
| Hi, Lisa. | ||
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Hello. | |
| Okay. | ||
| The Republicans have amnesia. | ||
| I don't know if the Republicans still remember when Ted Cruz rose into the government and his thing was no compromise, shut the government down. | ||
| No compromise. | ||
| Shut the government down. | ||
| Do y'all Republicans remember that? | ||
| And I believe that Democrats, in my opinion, should, now that you have the American attention, just go ahead and open the government back up and let Donald Trump just burn it down. | ||
| Because Republicans have amnesia. | ||
| I mean, do y'all remember Donald Trump didn't need a shutdown to when Doge came into office when he first came in. | ||
| Doge was in there. | ||
| They were cutting programs, agencies. | ||
| They were doing all of that. | ||
| There were no government shutdowns. | ||
| So Democrats, please, in order for Republicans to wake up, Donald Trump has to burn this country down. | ||
| And that's a fact because it's just like a little baby. | ||
| All right, Lisa, Democratic caller in Palmetto, Georgia. | ||
| The federal government is in day two of a federal shutdown. | ||
| Federal workers are furloughed. | ||
| And here is the agencies impacted the most. | ||
| EPA, education, and commerce, more than 80% of their total workforce are impacted. | ||
| In the Defense Department, it's about 45%, 334,000 of their civilian employees. | ||
| At Justice, it's 11% of the total, just over 12,000, almost 13,000. | ||
| In Homeland Security, it's about 5% of their total workforce, 14,000 employees. | ||
| And over at the VA, it's only 3% of the total, about 14,800 employees. | ||
| Chris in Philadelphia, an independent? | ||
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Yes, good morning. | |
| Good morning. | ||
| I would just like to say the last caller that was on, Henrietta, not the one before, if she could hear herself and how selfish she sounds with she just wants to destroy the government and have everything like, yeah, I get it. | ||
| You're blessed. | ||
| You're in a good spot, lady. | ||
| But that doesn't mean that these services that you want cut just to be politically whatever is correct. | ||
| And so I just want to say she should listen to that and hear how selfish she sounds and hope and be thankful that she's never in a situation that she needs to use these services that make America great. | ||
| Okay, so that's what, to me, America is great for the services and how we stand out from other countries. | ||
| Having said that, I recently had a trip to the emergency room where I had to get stitches. | ||
| And next to me was a family that was obviously, you know, not documented or as the one caller said, illegal aliens. | ||
| But I say this to everybody because, yes, I work hard. | ||
| I don't want my money just, you know, thrown out to anybody that's trying to take advantage of it. | ||
| But on the same aspect, like the caller said, do you want to be sitting next to somebody who has tuberculosis or some type of leprosy or something that they came here with that if they're seeking medical care, they're not going to like be preventative, like they're not going to get colonospodes or whatever. | ||
| They're going because there's some type of emergency issue. | ||
| So I say this to all the Republicans that value the Christian values. | ||
| Think about a child. | ||
| If a child, if a family brings a child that has strep throat, that's on the verge of, you know, hemorrhaging because of fever or something, are you just going to say, no, you're not a citizen. | ||
| You should, they're already made it here. | ||
| The problem is that the idiots in charge here all need to go back to school and take a communications class and realize both sides need to rise. | ||
| It's not all about them. | ||
| It's about the people. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Chris, I have to leave it there. | ||
| Chris in Philadelphia. | ||
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And now a live look at Washington, D.C.'s metro system here, courtesy of our C-SPAN camera crews on the ground. | |
| This is the Smithsonian stop located on the National Mall. | ||
| We are well into the second day of a government shutdown, and residents and visitors alike have been left with uncertainty about which government services and agencies will continue to function. | ||
| In 1995, the government shutdown led to the closure of libraries and a pause in garbage collection, even some malfunctioning streetlights, which went unrepaired for days. | ||
| That's changed with D.C. government functions now considered essential. | ||
| Here's Randy Clark, general manager of the DC Metro system, writing on X. Reminder that while the federal government is shut down, Atla Mada is operating normally with full weekday service. | ||
| We hope for a quick resolution, but are here to move federal employees, residents, and visitors around our great region as America's Metro system. | ||
| That's the latest on day two of the government shutdown here on C-SPAN. | ||
| Continue to follow our coverage across the C-SPAN networks, including the House on C-SPAN and the Senate on C-SPAN 2. |