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And here on C-SPAN, we continue our live coverage of the federal government shutdown on this second day. | |
| Coming up, we're going to take you live to Capitol Hill, where House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries will be holding a press conference that's set to begin at 3:30 p.m. Eastern Time. | ||
| Stay tuned for our live coverage here on C-SPAN and online at C-SPAN.org. | ||
| While we wait, we'll show a discussion on the impact of the shutdown from our own Washington Journal. | ||
| Let's go to Cheryl in California and Independent. | ||
| Cheryl, we're in day two of the government shutdown. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| What's your message to Washington? | ||
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Okay, here's my message. | |
| I think, first of all, I think the Republicans should tell the truth about the continuing resolution. | ||
| If you go back to the last time we had a shutdown or we were at the point of having a shutdown, okay, they were trying to pass the big beautiful bill. | ||
| And Chuck Schumer went along with them in keeping the government open. | ||
| And what they did is they shoved the big beautiful bill into law with just votes from the Republican. | ||
| So now, fast forward to this shutdown, the only option the Democrats have to save health care, affordable health care for the American people, is this shutdown. | ||
| And I want to give you some facts if you just give me a moment. | ||
| I just got my Medicare book, you know, for 2026. | ||
| And this is what Democrats are talking about. | ||
| Last year, you know, your base health care was $171. | ||
| That is going to go up to $185, which we normally expect of increase. | ||
| But then, if you go over and you choose your plan from what you had last year, now the plan I had last year did not cost me a cent. | ||
| Okay, everything was zero. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The monthly premium was zero. | ||
| The monthly premium now is going to cost me an additional $288 a year when you add up the monthly premium. | ||
| That's $288 for me, $288 for my husband. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The same thing was, I looked at one of the senior citizens that I go and help, and hers went from $69 up to $91, and she's a senior that's over 85. | ||
| You know, so this is what the Democrats is talking about. | ||
| And, you know, for the private sector, they won't get this until January. | ||
| This continuing resolution, what it's going to do is it's going to allow them to go ahead and appropriate the funds that they already put through the big beautiful bill and signed. | ||
| They're going to put them through. | ||
| And that way, now whatever we see here will stand. | ||
| And that is what the Democrats are fighting. | ||
| Okay, Cheryl's thoughts there in California. | ||
| From the Washington Post this morning in their reporting, why do Republicans say Democrats want $1.5 trillion in spending? | ||
| Last month, Democrats presented their own government funding extension plan. | ||
| Their proposal plan sought to make the ACA subsidies permanent and reverse the $1 trillion in Medicaid cuts in Trump's One Big Beautiful bill. | ||
| The proposal to make ACA subsidies permanent would increase the deficit by almost $350 billion in the next decade and increase the number of people insured by $3.8 million. | ||
| Republicans attacked the Democrats over their proposal, which also included language to increase oversight of administration spending authorized by Congress and return millions of dollars to public broadcasting, describing it as a $1.5 trillion ransom note to taxpayers. | ||
| Renee in Chicago, Democratic caller. | ||
| Renee, what's your thoughts on the shutdown this morning? | ||
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Well, if the president right now took pen to paper and rolled back the trillions of dollars in taxes for the 1%, which would not put any further debt on our economy and give those tax breaks to the 99% of Americans who need this affordable health care coverage, Dems gave their word they would be ready to compromise on any and all other issues the Republicans have. | |
| And with that said, this affects all Americans, this critical issue, Republicans, Independents, and Democrats. | ||
| Thank you for taking that call. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Renee's thoughts there in Chicago. | ||
| Shirley's a Republican in Newcastle, Pennsylvania. | ||
| Hi, Shirley. | ||
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Hello. | |
| Good morning, and thank you for taking my call. | ||
| I have just a few things to say. | ||
| First of all, it's a shame that we have this shutdown. | ||
| And it's all over health care. | ||
| And I have members in my family that they need procedures done and their health care will not cover it. | ||
| And yet we hear that Chuck Schumer and AOC and the whole bunch of them think that they need all this money to take care of these people that are in our country. | ||
| They should not be here, and yet we should take care of their health problems. | ||
| This is not right, and it should be stopped. | ||
| Now, Shirley's Schumer. | ||
| Yeah, go ahead, Shirley. | ||
| Finish your thoughts. | ||
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Okay, Chuck Schumer has been there way too long. | |
| I think he needs to retire. | ||
| And as far as AOC, everyone can see what's going on in New York with her up there making all these remarks about the person that should be voted in. | ||
| And that is wrong. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Shirley, back to the Washington Post, because you mentioned illegal immigrants, undocumented immigrants using the Medicaid program. | ||
| That's the argument that the vice president made. | ||
| Others have made as well. | ||
| The Washington Post says Republicans in the White House, however, have taken up issue with emergency Medicaid, which reimburses hospitals nationwide for emergency care provided to uninsured people who don't qualify for Medicaid because of their immigration status. | ||
| But that program does not provide coverage for individuals from the Washington Post. | ||
| However, according to KFF, emergency Medicaid spending represented less than 1% of overall Medicaid spending between fiscal years 2017 and 2023. | ||
| As KFF experts explain in analysis, without emergency Medicaid, hospitals or state governments would be left with the costs of emergency care. | ||
| We'll go to Dee in Tennessee, Democratic caller. | ||
| Hi, Dee. | ||
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Hi, good morning. | |
| My comment is: if you can pull up the video way back before Trump became president, he made the comment if a shutdown takes place, he would blame the president. | ||
| Not only that, he also made the comment that he wanted to file these people even before the shutdown took place. | ||
| And we Americans, he's attacking Americans. | ||
| He wants to run this country. | ||
| He's taken from Putin playbook. | ||
| He wants America to be ringing as Putin is running Russia. | ||
| He's putting us in so much chaos and causing our own military children to fight us. | ||
| I don't understand why people ain't seeing what Trump is doing to this country. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Have a nice day. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That is D in Tennessee. | ||
| Brenda is an independent in Denver, Colorado. | ||
| Hi, Brenda. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning, Greta. | |
| How are you doing? | ||
| Doing well. | ||
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I said I wasn't going to do that, but I did it anyway. | |
| My point is Americans are caught between a rock and a hard place. | ||
| The shutdown of the government is only an excuse for the layoffs, which are going to happen anyway, somehow. | ||
| The Democrats need someone as cunning and manipulative as Trump to get ahead of the plan to send troops within American cities for the Gartwells. | ||
| Heck yes. | ||
| And to the lady from Tennessee, I totally agree. | ||
| Okay, Brenda. | ||
| Let's put some numbers to that KFF analysis that we mentioned from the Washington Post this morning. | ||
| The emergency Medicaid costs the government about $3.8 billion in fiscal year 2023, a tiny fraction, less than 0.5% of total Medicaid spending, but it's $3.8 billion. | ||
| This program reimburses providers for life-saving emergency care given to immigrants who would be eligible for Medicaid but for their immigration status. | ||
| Care hospitals are federally mandated to provide the total cost of $27 billion over a seven-year period. | ||
| That's from 2017 to 2023. | ||
| Those were the years given by the Washington Post without that price tag was a small portion of overall Medicaid spending, and that comes from the Congressional Budget Office. | ||
| So there are some numbers to go along with that Washington Post reporting. | ||
| John in Pounding Mill, Virginia, Republican. | ||
| Hi, John. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Morning. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| I have a question. | ||
| You could ask your next guest, possibly. | ||
| I think all the confusion where the Democrats are saying, you just said, that illegal immigrants don't get Medicaid, and Republicans are claiming they do. | ||
| And obviously they can't both be true. | ||
| But I think it is true that they don't get Medicaid because the government can't pay them Medicaid directly, but the government gives the money to the states. | ||
| And the state is actually giving the Medicaid to the people. | ||
| For example, I heard this happens a lot in California. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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It's six of one, a half a dozen or the other. | |
| Also, I was wondering if you could look up, are you still there? | ||
| Yes, we're listening. | ||
| Look up what? | ||
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A few, I don't know, a year ago on your show, I think it was, they were talking about a hospital in Tucson, Arizona, right across the border, that was going broke, you know, millions of dollars in debt because of all the Mexicans coming across the border to have their baby. | |
| And obviously they had to deliver it and they weren't getting paid. | ||
| And they said, you know, they were so far in debt, they didn't know if they were going to make it. | ||
| I just wonder if you could see if they ever resolved it. | ||
| Did our government give them money or are they still in business? | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| All right. | ||
| John there in Virginia, Republican. | ||
| We are taking your calls this morning here on the Washington Journal, continuing with our live coverage of day two of the federal government shutdown, and no end is in sight. | ||
| The Hill newspaper reporting this morning that it could be at least a week that the government is shut down. | ||
| Senators will try again tomorrow to reach a compromise when they come back after observing Yom Kippur today. | ||
| And they will do another round of votes that we have seen them do earlier this week and before that. | ||
| One on the proposal by House Republicans for a so-called clean continuing resolution that would fund the government through November, and the Democrats' proposal to deal with health care. | ||
| Karen in Chester, Pennsylvania, Democratic caller. | ||
| Karen, your message to Washington. | ||
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Hi, Greta. | |
| You're a wonderful host. | ||
| You helped me twice in the past. | ||
| Once you had a guest, I asked a question, he didn't answer, and you asked him again. | ||
| You pressed the question, and I appreciated that. | ||
| And another time, you pointed out that I was being more nasty than I needed to be. | ||
| So I appreciate that. | ||
| But what I want to point out, I want to point out briefly three little things. | ||
| Number one, it really, really got to me when the Republicans say we did our job. | ||
| No, they didn't do their job. | ||
| The reason that we're in a continuing resolution is because they didn't pass the budget and it hasn't passed the budget for years. | ||
| They're not doing their job. | ||
| That's why we're in this situation. | ||
| There wouldn't be a continuing resolution to vote on if they had done their job. | ||
| The other thing is that people need to realize that it's not Republicans that are the problem. | ||
| The problem is not the people. | ||
| The problem is the administration. | ||
| People need to stop hating each other, shooting each other, arguing with each other. | ||
| They just need to look at the administration and what they're doing for us. | ||
| And what they're doing for us is not very good. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Karen, there in Chester, Pennsylvania, with her reaction to day two of the federal government shutdown here in Washington. | ||
| And as Karen said, both sides are pointing fingers. | ||
| The president and the Democratic leadership holding dueling news conferences on Capitol Hill. | ||
| We expect more of the same today. | ||
| The Democratic leader, Chuck Schumer, putting this out on X last night. | ||
| A headline from People magazine: the White House will continue construction on a 90,000 square foot ballroom during the government shutdown. | ||
| So the Democratic leader says, yes to ballrooms, no to health care for Americans. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| That is from the Democratic leader in the House, Chuck Schumer. | ||
| And from the White House yesterday, after the Democrats met with them, we saw pictures like this. | ||
| This is from the White House's account on X. Chuck Schumer standing next to his colleague Hakeem Jeffries and an AI-generated image of the Democratic leader in the House Hakeem Jefferies with mustache and sombrero there. | ||
| It continues this morning. | ||
| Ted Cruz sending out a similar image on his account on X. | ||
| The 44 Senate Democrats who voted for Schumer's shutdown should know that the sombrero posting will continue until they reopen our government. | ||
| We'll go to Karen in Chester, Pennsylvania, Democratic caller. | ||
| Karen Bouillard to talk to you. | ||
| We'll go to Adam in Washington, D.C., Republican. | ||
| Hi, Adam. | ||
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Hi, Greta. | |
| Good morning. | ||
| I just wanted to call and sort of bridge the last guest with this conversation, this topic, and just wanted to stress how valuable it was for the president and the secretary of war to meet directly with commanding generals and enlisted leaders. | ||
| You know, presence matters. | ||
| Face-to-face leadership builds trust and sends a message you can't capture in a memo. | ||
| And the timing made this even more powerful during amidst a federal shutdown when service members like myself and many others continue serving without pay. | ||
| And top leaders showed up in person. | ||
| You know, it marked a stark transition in military culture, giving commanders and the troops the chance to hear that message directly. | ||
| And the previous guest, the retired colonel, should know better than anyone that showing up in person is leadership. | ||
| And Adam, you're an active military officer and you are working and not getting paid. | ||
| Is that right? | ||
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That's right. | |
| And if you don't mind, I prefer to sort of hold my thoughts any further on since I am active duty. | ||
| Understood. | ||
| That was Adam there in Washington, D.C. We're talking about the government shutdown this morning here on the Washington Journal. | ||
| We continue with our live coverage, showing you the scenes around Washington throughout today's Washington Journal. | ||
| There's signs on some of the doors saying that some of the institutions here are closed. | ||
| This is the Labor Department here in Washington, D.C. You can see the flag there. | ||
| And we'll continue to bring you other sights and sounds from around Washington. | ||
| Our coverage of day two of the federal government shutdown continues here on the Washington Journal and throughout the day. | ||
| So stay with us here on C-SPAN, C-SPAN 2, and of course on C-SPAN 3 as well. | ||
| You can also follow along with our free video mobile app, C-SPANNOW or online on demand at c-span.org. | ||
| Yesterday, C-SPAN interviewed folks here in Washington about how the federal government shutdown is impacting them. | ||
| Here's a few of their answers. | ||
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How has the government shutdown affected your visit here to the United States? | |
| To be honest, it's minimal for us. | ||
| I mean, obviously, I guess it's more inconvenient for you guys, but the only thing from our perspective, we had tickets to visit Library of Congress. | ||
| I've been before, but my friends who are with me haven't. | ||
| And I thought it was great. | ||
| It was worth a visit. | ||
| But apart from that, it's not affected us yet. | ||
| I guess it'll depend on what happens when we go for our flight back to Europe and see what happens at the airport. | ||
| But hopefully it'll be minor inconvenience, nothing more. | ||
| It hasn't affected that much. | ||
| Yesterday we got in, so we got to see all the Smithsonian museums. | ||
| But today, we did have, we have three or four areas that we can't see, which is the Capitol, Library of Congress, the FBI, and the Bureau of Engraving. | ||
| So those are the only four items, and we have four days packed. | ||
| So it's really the only thing that it's affected us so far. | ||
| My feelings about the shutdown is grow up. | ||
| Grow up. | ||
| And I didn't use bad language, but I'd like to. | ||
| And what do you mean by grow up? | ||
| We can't spend money we don't have. | ||
| Can you? | ||
| I can't either. | ||
| I mean, they do things I'd get locked up for. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| So, yes, I'm a registered Republican. | ||
| I don't have anything against the Democrats. | ||
| A lot of my family are Democrats, and I don't get along with them. | ||
| They don't like me. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| But I'm a conservative. | ||
| I always have been. | ||
| I've been a businessman all my life, and I have to be a conservative. | ||
| So they need to get their act together. | ||
| I'm sure there are people that are going to be hurting. | ||
| Maybe not. | ||
| I don't know how it works. | ||
| It's interesting you asked that. | ||
| For me, I think my biggest fear is I work in the tech sector and I have a lot of concern. | ||
| And friends I've been talking to were really concerned about just national security from a technology perspective. | ||
| Last time it shut down, a lot of licenses didn't get renewed during the shutdown. | ||
| Databases were shut down, people were cut out. | ||
| And when you work closely with the government as a contractor, it makes it hard to do your job. | ||
| So even though I don't work directly for the government, working as a contractor with the government affects you too. | ||
| You can't log into systems, you can't do your job. | ||
| And it was very frustrating. | ||
| So we're kind of nervous. | ||
| We're kind of waiting and seeing. | ||
| But, you know, and we're worried about the holes and the vulnerabilities. | ||
| Look, maybe it's just my own public opinion, but we don't seem really popular abroad right now. | ||
| And that's not the time to have a, you know, kind of a lapse in our national cybersecurity. | ||
| And when you take groups like NIST and you put over half of them on furlough and you have systems where you're not updating security protocols, it's scary. | ||
| So yeah, my colleagues and I are a little scared. | ||
| C-SPAN on the streets of Washington yesterday talking to tourists and others about the impact of the government shutdown. |