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| The Atlantic Council's Phil Dickinson joins us now to preview President Trump's state visit to the United Kingdom this week. | ||
| And it's actually President Trump's second state visit, dating back to his first term this time, though, with a different monarch. | ||
| Phil Dickinson, how unusual is it for one head of state to have two state visits? | ||
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It's very unusual, unprecedented, in fact. | |
| I think this is one occasion where it's certainly fair to use that term. | ||
| It's only the fourth state visit by a U.S. president, and for two of those to be President Trump, that says something about just how important and significant that is, and just how eager the British government is to invest early and build good relationships with this administration. | ||
| You can't drop a history nugget without telling us the other two. | ||
| Who are the other two presidents of state visits? | ||
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President Bush in 2003 and President Obama in 2011. | |
| How did this one in 2025 come about? | ||
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So when the Prime Minister came and made his first visit to the White House in February earlier this year, in fact, it was the day immediately before the Oval Office meeting that President Trump had with President Zelensky. | |
| I think Keir Stam would say that his Oval Office meeting went a lot better. | ||
| There was a lot more bonhami and friendliness. | ||
| And the first sort of flourish that the Prime Minister did at the start of that was to pull out the letter from the King inviting the President to this state visit. | ||
| I think as soon as the election result was clear, number 10 in London would have been figuring out how best to build good relationships with President Trump, knowing that Keistama, the Prime Minister, is not necessarily cut from the same political cloth as the president. | ||
| You know, he's more of a buttoned-up lefty London lawyer type, which doesn't necessarily scan as very MAGA, but the Prime Minister has really worked hard to build that relationship with President Trump, and this is kind of the icing on the cake of all of that work. | ||
| So what's on the agenda? | ||
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Well, state visits are kind of in two parts. | |
| The president will arrive later today, but Wednesday is the day for all of the royal pageantry where he'll be greeted by the king, all of the pomp and ceremony, the sort of inspecting of the troops, state banquet, white ties, all the great historical, fancy things that you associate with a state visit. | ||
| And then on Thursday, it will be government business, you know, a UK-US bilateral government summit held at Checkers, which is the Prime Minister's country residence. | ||
| So on the agenda there will be on the bilateral side, the trade relationship, trying to pin down some of the details of the trade agreement that was struck earlier this year. | ||
| And they'll be looking to have some big investment announcements, some big ticket wins that both sides can sort of celebrate. | ||
| And then, of course, there'll be the big foreign policy questions, which for the Prime Minister, first and foremost, is Ukraine, US support for NATO, and what the US presence in Europe looks like going forward. | ||
| And also Gaza as well, to see where they might be able to lean on the administration to put pressure on Prime Minister Netanyahu in a helpful way. | ||
| It's a very tricky subject for the Prime Minister domestically. | ||
| What is a successful state visit look like by the end of this visit for Keir Sarmer? | ||
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I think they'll be holding their breath until the press conference happens. | |
| So that will be taking place on Thursday. | ||
| And as you know, there's a lot of unpredictability around press conferences with President Trump. | ||
| But he'll be hoping really that the investment in all of the pageantry and the respect paid to President Trump will pay off there. | ||
| He'll have nothing but good words to say about the UK. | ||
| And then they will be able to show some to the domestic audience in the UK some tangible wins, either a sort of a cutting of tariffs on steel and aluminum exports to the United States, new agreements around tech, around civil nuclear, things like that. | ||
| So a mixture of the personality and the conviviality of the visit, if you will, and the substance of getting some agreements across the line. | ||
| What's more important to Keir Sarma right now, those trade agreements, or the bigger picture, foreign policy, Ukraine, Israel and Gaza? | ||
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That's a great question. | |
| The Prime Minister right now, I think it's fair to say, is going through a difficult moment in his premiership. | ||
| He's been in power for a little over a year and his poll numbers have been suffering and the challenges on the right in British politics are seemingly ascendant. | ||
| And he's had to deal with a couple of issues recently. | ||
| He's had to lose his Deputy Prime Minister and the Ambassador to the United States. | ||
| Just in the last few weeks, those have both happened. | ||
| So really, success for him is about getting his premiership back onto an even keel, is about getting the public narrative around him as Prime Minister and around how this government is performing on a positive trajectory. | ||
| I think there is a lot of a general sense that he has handled the relationship with the United States well so far, that he has shown great leadership on issues like Ukraine. | ||
| So delivering on the domestic political agenda is really first and foremost. | ||
| And it might be helpful to remind people why he lost his US ambassador. | ||
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| So there were some, he had links with Jeffrey Epstein and recently emails came out that showed that he was encouraging Jeffrey Epstein to fight the legal charges when he was first prosecuted for child sex crimes in 2008. | ||
| Phil Dickinson is our guest of the Atlantic Council, a deputy director of the Transatlantic Security Initiative. | ||
| They're taking your questions and calls ahead of this very big state visit taking place over the course of the next couple days in the United Kingdom. |