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Democracy. | |
| It isn't just an idea. | ||
| It's a process. | ||
| A process shaped by leaders elected to the highest offices and entrusted to a select few with guarding its basic principles. | ||
| It's where debates unfold, decisions are made, and the nation's course is charted. | ||
| Democracy in real time. | ||
| This is your government at work. | ||
| This is C-SPAN, giving you your democracy unfiltered. | ||
| The president making these statements yesterday. | ||
| Chicago's local journalism is picking that up. | ||
| This is from ABC 7 outside of Chicago saying that the president said Tuesday he will send the National Guard to help fight crime in Chicago as the city braces for the administration's planned immigration crackdown in the area. | ||
| Quote, well, we're going in. | ||
| I didn't say when. | ||
| We're going in. | ||
| When you lose, look, I have an obligation. | ||
| This isn't a political thing. | ||
| I have an obligation. | ||
| It also has some reaction there from not only Governor Pritzker of Illinois, but also Chicago's Mayor Brandon Johnson. | ||
| We'll show you that in a little bit. | ||
| The statement by the president was made during a press conference yesterday in the Oval Office, asked about his plans for Chicago. | ||
| Here's some of that from yesterday. | ||
| Chicago is very interesting because I watched Pritzker get up and say about, we don't need help, we're safe. | ||
| But two weeks ago, they had six people murdered, and they had 24 people hit by bullets. | ||
| Last week, as you know, it was seven people, 24 people hit, and seven people died. | ||
| And then over the last two days, that was the crown jewel. | ||
| They had, I guess, nine killed, nine or ten killed, and 50 hit with bullets. | ||
| And you have this governor get up, who's a terrible governor. | ||
| Probably he and Gavin Newscomb would be probably the two worst and most naive. | ||
| They're naive. | ||
| Either they're naive or they're very untruthful. | ||
| And he'll say, we don't want any protection. | ||
| We don't need. | ||
| So in the last three weeks, he's lost almost 20 people killed. | ||
| There's no place, there's no place in the world, including you can go to Afghanistan, you can go to places that you would think of. | ||
| They don't even come close to this. | ||
| Chicago is a hellhole right now. | ||
| I would love to have Governor Pritchker call me. | ||
| I'd gain respect for him and say, we do have a problem, and we'd love you to send in the troops because you know what? | ||
| The people, they have to be protected. | ||
| I saw it today on one of your networks, not a friendly network. | ||
| Exact, really the opposite, I would say, very unfriendly network. | ||
| And they interviewed about 12 people on this morning. | ||
| Most of them were African American, who were black. | ||
| And they were saying, please, please, please let the president send it. | ||
| These were people from Chicago. | ||
| Please, we need help. | ||
| We need help. | ||
| We can't walk outside. | ||
| We're petrified. | ||
| If the governor of Illinois would call up, call me up. | ||
| I would love to do it. | ||
| Now, we're going to do it anyway. | ||
| We have the right to do it because I have an obligation to protect this country. | ||
| And that is the president from yesterday. | ||
| In fact, that ABC 7 Chicago follows up saying the naval station has been preparing to be the base of operations for more U.S. immigration and customs enforcement agents. | ||
| Homeland Security Secretary Christy Noam confirmed plans for ramped up immigration enforcement in Illinois over the weekend, but did not share specific details. | ||
| So when it comes to these presidents' recent statements, when it comes to Chicago, this idea of federal forces going in to help fight crime there, let us know what you think about it. | ||
| 202748-8000 for Democrats, Republicans 202748-8001. | ||
| Independents 202748-8002. | ||
| And Chicago residents, you can call us at 200. | ||
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Going to leave Washington Journal here and take you live to the White House for the arrival of the President of Poland. | |
| This is live coverage on C-SPAN. | ||
| Thank you, everybody. | ||
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The arrival of the president of Poland, Karol Nowronski, being greeted here by President Trump in a flyover by F-15s. | |
| The two will be meeting in the Oval Office for talks, and we'll have live coverage of that when it happens here on C-SPAN. | ||
| It's a lot different now than it was back then. | ||
| But my thing is, the Democratic leaders of these mayor of Columbia and governor do all these photo ops in their secured area, more or less safe areas. | ||
| Why don't they go into the south side and west side of Chicago and have their little picture taking and talk to the people and they'll tell them that they want they're not safe. | ||
| They don't feel safe and this and that, but they trouble with the coming crash they don't listen to what the people are telling them. | ||
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And as far as the National Guard, they need something there as far as because what they're doing now is not working. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| That's Ralph in Florida. | ||
| This is Newsweek talking about Chicago's violent crime rate, saying it remains lower than that of the two largest cities according to FBI crime data. | ||
| It has a violent crime rate of about 550 violent crimes per 100,000 residents. | ||
| For comparison, New York and Los Angeles have violent crime rates of about 671 and 728 violent crimes per 100,000 residents, respectively. | ||
| In fact, of the 10 largest police departments included in the FBI data, Houston is the city with the highest violent crime rate, about 1,148 violent crimes per 100,000 residents, according to the data. | ||
| And it also cites other cities like Philadelphia and Phoenix. | ||
| We showed you the headline from the Chicago Tribune this morning. | ||
| Here's the editorial that was released yesterday in response to the president's statements and related matters. | ||
| The editors say this: to reiterate our positions, we do not wish to see the National Guard wandering performatively around the streets of Chicago, a job for which they are not trained. | ||
| We want to see more cooperation between local, state, and federal forces when it comes to stopping violent weekends in the city and in prosecuting the perpetrators of violent crimes. | ||
| We restate. | ||
| We have confidence that many of the right people now aren't finally in place to achieve real progress, but the federal government can and should pull many helpful levers. | ||
| Time to call a temporary political truce, gentlemen, and call off the insults without waiting for the other side to go first. | ||
| Again, that's the editorial from the Chicago Tribune on this topic. | ||
| J.B. Pritzker, the governor of Illinois, holding his own press conference yesterday on these matters. | ||
| Here's some of his statements from yesterday. | ||
| I'm aware that the President of the United States likes to go on television and beg me to call and ask him for troops. | ||
| I find this extraordinarily strange as Chicago does not want troops on our streets. | ||
| I also have experience asking the president for assistance just to have the rug pulled out from underneath me when execution meets reality. | ||
| I refuse to play a reality game show with Donald Trump again. | ||
| What I want are the federal dollars that have been promised to Illinois and Chicago for violence prevention programs that have proven to work. | ||
| That is money that Illinois taxpayers send to the federal government. | ||
| And it's an insult to any and every citizen to suggest that any governor should have to beg the president of any political party for resources owed their people. | ||
| I'd like to ask a question of my own, and it's one the press should be asking as well. | ||
| When did we become a country where it's okay for the U.S. President to insist on national television that a state should call him to beg for anything, especially something we don't want? | ||
| Have we truly lost all sense of sanity in this nation that we treat this as normal? | ||
| As I have done since becoming governor, I've been reflecting on my responsibilities to the people of Illinois. | ||
| And one of those duties is to share with the public exactly what we know. | ||
| In the coming days, we expect to see what has played out in Los Angeles and Washington, D.C. to happen here in Chicago. | ||
| First, Donald Trump is positioning armed federal agents and staging military vehicles on federal property, such as the Great Lakes Naval Base. | ||
| It is likely those agents will be with ICE, Customs and Border Patrol, the Department of Homeland Security, and other similarly situated federal agencies. | ||
| Many of these individuals are being relocated from Los Angeles for deployment in Chicago. | ||
| We believe that staging that has already begun started yesterday and continues into today. | ||
| That was Governor J.B. Pritzker responding to the president yesterday, a shot of Union Station here in Washington, D.C. Your thoughts on the president's recent comments when it comes to National Guards of Chicago. | ||
| We'll hear from Deborah from Chicago. | ||
| Republican line, good morning. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Well, let me be very, very honest with you. | ||
| We know that it's a Trojan horse. | ||
| I'm a black American, okay? | ||
| We know we feel like we're not stupid. | ||
| We know that it's a Trojan horse for him to send the troops in. | ||
| However, it's the lesser of two evils. | ||
| I don't know because they call them YNs, and you can determine the acronym on your own. | ||
| But it's a new crime. | ||
| It's a soulless crime. | ||
| These young kids are walking around with masks on, and they're mowing down people with switches. | ||
| Honestly, I work in an area. | ||
| My husband is a CTA bus driver. | ||
| He works the area. | ||
| I'm a therapist. | ||
| I work in that area, in a high-crime area. | ||
| I work in Oak Gale Gardens, where they mowed down two women this week, just shot them down. | ||
| So we know that it's a Trojan horse. | ||
| We're scared of that, but I don't know if we fear them as much as we fear the YNs that are terrorizing neighborhoods. | ||
| And it's not good here in Chicago. | ||
| And I, you know, I welcome Governor Pritzner to really, really do a focus group and really, really sit down and talk to the residents because he lives in a shelter community. | ||
| Should he talk directly to the president about these issues? | ||
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Would I talk to him? | |
| No, should the governor talk directly to the president about these issues? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| Father Flager, people that really are out there, boots on the ground marching like myself, you know, I mean, he really needs to listen to the people that live in the communities, like where I work in the communities. | ||
| I work for the elderly. | ||
| I'm a therapist. | ||
| I go in and out of houses. | ||
| They can't come out their houses. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| And these people are taxpaying citizens. | ||
| They're not, if you ride through Chicago, it's not a bunch of slum houses through there, like people think. | ||
| But, you know, at the same time, there are people that are living in those residences, especially like when you get to 71st Street East Side. | ||
| I hate to say this, but when they tore down those projects and things of that nature, they really didn't help these people adapt to life in neighborhoods. | ||
| And the offspring of it, I'm not being discriminatory, but it's pretty bad. | ||
| I mean, they're walking around with a mask on and they have no souls. | ||
| They're on the L. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let's hear from Tim. | ||
| Tim in New York, Democrats line. | ||
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Yes, good morning. | |
| They need to communicate Trump and the governor of Illinois, you know, just talk it out. | ||
| And they need to pass, get some laws passed, you know, jobs, programs for kids. | ||
| Give them something to do, give them hope, give them something to believe in. | ||
| And I think they need to do something about guns, like come together and just pass a gun law. | ||
| Like, you know, back in the days, like Clinton did with Biden. | ||
| But it's just going to be the same thing over and over. | ||
| But crime's been around since years. | ||
| So they're not going to stop murders, regardless. | ||
| If they do go in there for whatever a month or two when they leave, it's just going to start happening again. | ||
| When you hear the president compare what's happening in D.C., do you think that might work in Chicago or would work in Chicago when he makes these comparisons to what's happening in D.C. over the last few weeks? | ||
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No, because it's just you got them walking around, you know, the government. | |
| They're walking around. | ||
| Yeah, people's not going to act up like a fool. | ||
| They're just going to lay low. | ||
| So as soon as they leave, that's going to start happening again. | ||
| They need to give people something to do and just give them hope and pass some bills. | ||
| That's all they need to do and communicate. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let's hear from Ron. | ||
| Let's hear from Maran in Maryland, Independent Line. | ||
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Hi. | |
| Good morning. | ||
| Good morning, America. | ||
| So, I mean, I think, you know, the previous caller pretty much just said it. | ||
| I mean, as soon as they leave, crime will continue. | ||
| Yet, these blue cities and red cities continue to vote in these incompetent leaders. | ||
| I'm 100% for it. | ||
| I think this is long overdue as a black American male. | ||
| When you look at the numbers of murders in every single city, regardless of what state you're in, whether it's a red state or blue state, the majority of those individuals being killed, slaughtered, murdered, are black males. | ||
| So any black person who is against this, it's a Trojan horse, it's this or that. | ||
| Right now, as we speak, you have armed thugs roaming your streets and your neighborhoods. | ||
| So I'd rather have a National Guard, FBI, you name it. | ||
| I don't care as long as that person, of course, is a Leo. | ||
| I grew up in Flint, Detroit, Chicago. | ||
| I work now in Southeast D.C. | ||
| I live in Baltimore. | ||
| So there's no caller that can call in and educate me when it comes to crime. | ||
| I know about crime, all right? | ||
| It impacts, number one, black males. | ||
| Bring them on, Trump. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Bring them. | ||
| That's Ron there in Maryland. | ||
| The Wall Street Journal editors take a look at the topic of federal forces, the recent statements by the president in Chicago. | ||
| They draw this conclusion: saying most Americans want cops on the beat, not soldiers in the streets. | ||
| Governors sometimes deploy their own National Guard units to back up law enforcement, as when New York Governor Kathy Hochul sent troops into the subways last year. | ||
| But that's state action and can't be exempt from posse matatus. | ||
| For Mr. Trump to declare an insurrection to send in federal troops over the objections of an elected governor would be a risky escalation. | ||
| Chicago's chronic crime problem belongs to Mr. Pritzker and Mr. Johnson, the country's worst mayor. | ||
| Mr. Trump can't duplicate there or elsewhere what he's doing in D.C. because there's no place in America that is like the nation's federal capital. | ||
| And as I read more there in the Wall Street Journal, their opinion section this morning, getting your thoughts on these recent statements by the president when it comes to sending federal forces to Chicago. | ||
| Doug is in Las Vegas, Republican line. | ||
| Hi. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Hey, I just want to make a few just, this is just a simple comment about all this silliness. | ||
| I'm for democracy. | ||
| I'm for a republical, republic democracy, not a strict democracy federally. | ||
| But as far as I'm concerned, I am a Democrat. | ||
| I believe in democracy. | ||
| So if all these people in these blue states that voted for sanctuary city status and stuff, if that's how they want to live, let them. | ||
| It's not my business if Chicago wants to kill vote people who let people who kill people stay on the street. | ||
| If they don't want to arrest them, I don't care. | ||
| I don't live there. | ||
| If that's what they want to vote for, let them kill them. | ||
| So what about federal forces helping to assist with crime there? | ||
| What do you think of that specifically? | ||
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I think they're not needed at all as long as the people who were elected to do their job and keep the streets safe would just do it, but they don't. | |
| So if that's what you voted for, that's what you get. | ||
| Accept it. | ||
| Live with it with happiness as you kill each other, you nuts. | ||
| Rob in New York State, Independent Line. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Your last caller was right on about everything. | ||
| That Mayor Johnson is such a hypocrite. | ||
| That man has 150 police in his security detail, but he doesn't want to protect the citizens of Chicago. | ||
| It's disgusting. | ||
| Here in New York State, we just had a Peruvian gang leader arrested last year, 10 miles from me, that was wanted for 23 deaths in Peru. | ||
| So Trump should not only do that in Chicago, he should come to New York and clean house here because these sanctuary states are just terrible, Pedro. | ||
| And I don't care how much these Democrats try to polish the turd, it's still a turd. | ||
| They're a horrible, horrible bunch of people. | ||
| And I just can't believe that we're in a shape we are. | ||
| And this is why we need a revolution. | ||
| Okay, the recent statements about Chicago yesterday come in light of action from federal courts on another matter. | ||
| This is by NBC saying that a federal judge is in California ruling yesterday that the Trump administration violated a 19th century law barring the use of soldiers for civilian law enforcement activities when it mobilized 4,000 National Guard troops and 700 Marines in Los Angeles in June. |