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And this is the front page of the Wall Street Journal.
Here is Exxon.
It says Exxon Russia in Secret Talks.
And this is what the article says.
After huddling with President Trump in Alaska, President Vladimir Putin told reporters that Russia and the U.S. could do more business together, for example, between their Pacific coastlines.
Quote, we look forward to dealing, Trump replied.
What the two leaders didn't say, behind closed doors, their country's biggest energy companies had already sketched out a map to going back into business, pumping oil and gas off Russia's Far East coast.
In secret talks with Russia's biggest state energy company this year, a senior ExxonMobil executive discussed returning to the massive Sakhalin project if the two governments gave the green light as part of a Ukraine peace process.
People familiar with the discussion say such is the sensitivity that only a handful of people at Exxon knew of the talks.
That's in the Wall Street Journal.
That's on the front page.
Also information here from the New York Times about what's happening at the Fed.
And this article says Trump's bid to control the Fed may royal global economy.
Experts warn of inflation and bond chaos if effort to fire a governor succeeds.
That's about Lisa Cook.
And he was, the president was citing a cause for trying to fight to fire her.
She is fighting that in court and that's on the New York Times.
On the front page of the Washington Post, Doge put Americans' data at risk, officials say.
It says that a U.S. Doge service uploaded a copy of American social security data to the digital cloud, risking the security of critical personal information for more than 300 million people, according to a whistleblower.
Chief Data Officer Charles Borges raised concerns that Doge staffers bypassed safeguards, circumvented a court order, and created a copy of the Social Security Administration's entire collection of data on the U.S. public on the cloud.
That was yesterday, and we are in open forum right now.
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A couple of news items for you.
This is from WTMJ.com.
Vice President JD Vance to visit Wisconsin, touting the spending bill.
Also, this from NBC News with this headline: states must axe transgender references from sex ed or risk losing funds.
Trump administration says the mandate comes just days after the Trump administration terminated funding for a sex education program in California.
Also, this from the AP, this has just come out, and that is that Trump extends control over Washington by taking management of Union Station away from Amtrak.
Union Station is Washington, D.C.'s train station.
There's a picture there.
And that is also the building that you see sometimes behind our guests because it's right in front of the studio here in C-SPAN.
There it is on your screen.
That's Union Station.
Let's talk to callers now.
Elsie in Alabama, Republican line.
Good morning, Elsie.
unidentified
Yes.
I'm calling about the tariffs and how everything else is going up.
I voted for President Trump all three times he ran, but I'm very disappointed that the price of things are going up.
I heard this morning the price of gas is going to go back up.
And I'm very disappointed.
I'm afraid we'll lose the midterm elections because people are unhappy with having to choose between groceries and other things they need.
All right, Elsie, let's talk to Lewis in North Carolina.
Democrat, good morning, Lewis.
unidentified
All right, good morning.
Look, you know, it's very ironic that this president seems to me trying to put a wedge between India and America, which diplomacy with them is very important because of the way they used to be.
They were dealing with Russia and China.
And so we've been working with them and sending business over there to them and doing what we can to keep them as part of our ally.
But Trump and Putin had talked, and Putin wants India back.
So Trump is putting double tariffs all on India for because he states that India is purchasing oil from them, Russia.
But as you just read and stated, that Trump and Putin already came with some type of agreement of doing more business together.
Isn't that ironic how he would do that to run India back to China and Putin when they were allies with America?
This is just totally ridiculous.
And we know what this is all about: to forget about the F-steem that Trump is a child molester.
And as we mentioned earlier, the Transportation Secretary, Sean Duffy, announced that his department is taking control of DC's Union Station from Amtrak.
If you've heard the president and you've followed DC News, the president has been very concerned about crime in our nation's capital.
He wants a capital that is worthy of the greatest country that's ever existed on the face of the earth, which means a capital that's clean, a capital that's safe, and a capital that doesn't have its parks overtaken by homelessness.
And so we look at our equities.
We are going to partner and invest in the streets of this city.
But today, we are going to look at Union Station.
And Union Station is frankly owned by DOT.
We are going to take DOT from our partners back under DOT control, and we are going to make the investments to make sure that this station isn't dirty, that we don't have homelessness in Union Station.
We want a place where businesses want to obtain leases and set up shop and serve the community of DC, but also the people that travel into DC via train.
But also, we want just, if you're out, you want to go for a great meal, you want to go shopping, you want to come to Union Station because it's gorgeous, it's beautiful, it's safe, it's a great experience.
That's what we want to do for Union Station.
So today we're announcing that we're going to take Union Station back under DOT control.
Not a power plate, we've always had it, but we think that we can manage the property better, bring in more tenants, bring in more revenue, and that revenue is going to allow us to make investments in this beautiful building.
It needs investments.
It's been, I think, neglected for decades, and it's shown its age.
And again, we want to make this place beautiful and the premier train station, not just in America, but the premier train station in the world.
And that takes money.
And again, it's this reform that's going to help us make that happen.
Just to follow up on the people that's bashing President Donald Trump right now, you know, there's so many things going on, and he's trying to take care of so many things.
And they say, well, he's not doing this, and he's not doing that for certain areas and certain things.
I know groceries are high, but when you're paying people to start their job at a higher rate instead of earning a raise, I don't mean to start them at $7.50 an hour or $9 an hour.
I haven't heard too many Republicans call in today praising Trump for much of anything.
I guess they finally started to see who the man is.
I look at his record, and as I said, your records speak for who you are.
His record doesn't show that he has accomplished much of anything except dividing people.
He said he could stop the war between Ukraine and Russia in a week.
It's been seven or eight months.
He ain't been able to do anything that he said he could do.
Since he couldn't do any of these things that he said he could do, now he wants to go mess with the people that don't have much of anything that's already depressed.
Let's go take California from Gavin Newsom.
Let's go take DC from the mayor of DC because these are the things that I can do and depress people.
But the things that he needed to do, he ain't been able to accomplish any of it, Mamie.
And the man is sick.
I'm 78 years old.
I saw him at a young age when he messed up the USFL, caused the USFL to fail.
All them teams that was in the USFL was making money.
He wanted his team, the New Jersey Generals, to be in the NFL.
They went to court, lost, didn't get but one dollar, but he caused the USFL to fail.
He ain't nothing but a failure, and the people need to recognize that man is a failure.
So, first, tell us about your background in criminal justice and how you came to this topic.
unidentified
Sure.
So, I actually am a former prosecutor.
After being a prosecutor for several years, went on to run a nonprofit agency for victims of domestic and sexual violence.
Also, did five years on my local city council, and so took those different perspectives into how policy comes together in our criminal justice system and came to R-Street.
Now, the president said essentially you can kill people and then say, okay, come back later and they never come back again.
Is that what happens?
unidentified
Well, I do want to just point out first that President Trump has hit on something that people are not immediately understanding is a big problem right now, which is there are many people in our communities that are feeling that more needs to be done around crime and homelessness.
That is true.
A lot of people are seeing that they want more to be done.
The kind of part that goes astray is whether or not the bail system is responsible for people feeling unsafe.
You will hear from prosecutors and police officers that they get very frustrated with what they call kind of a revolving door into the system or a catch and release where people get picked up, get out again, commit another crime.
These are real issues to talk about and see about good solutions.
But when we're talking about murderers, almost across the board, but I will say there are some states that don't have an ability to hold murderers in, but a lot of those individuals are not getting out at all, even for a cash amount.
They are being held because they are a public safety risk.
It doesn't mean that in some places they may get out, but in the vast majority of circumstances, murderers are not being released from jail pretrial.
Now, you wrote an analysis at rstreet.org about two weeks ago.
You said why federal repeal of no cash bail laws would be unconstitutional and bad policy.
Explain both of those things.
unidentified
Sure.
So the 10th Amendment is our clearest kind of law talking about state rights, that it's really up to the states to be doing these, what we call kind of traditional policing powers, which would include how the criminal justice system deals with state crimes.
And it really would be hard to do anything as a mandate to states or municipalities requiring them to do something specific because of the 10th Amendment.
And that is such an important part for federalism, for the sovereignty of states.
And it seems clear that the president actually understands that that is a step too far that he cannot take.
because in the executive orders, really what's being done is pulling on those kind of purse strings to determine whether or not they can use grant funds and funding power to get the outcomes that they're hoping for.
So the first one is more of the legal question.
Can the federal government tell states what to do?
And generally the answer is no.
Even their power to pull the purse strings is very limited by SCOTIS saying that things have to to not be done in a punitive nature.
They need to have some sort of correlation with what you're actually trying to impose.
On the other side, the question is, is this even really the right solution?
So if we do think that people are feeling unsafe, if we do think that crime is not where it should be, that it needs to really come down and public safety is a priority, should we be messing with the bail system?
And the answer might be yes, but I will say that saying universally that cashless bail is the problem really is going to put us into a bad spot.
And specifically, I'd like to kind of point out places like Texas and Tennessee.
Both states just recently have expanded their preventative detention.
So again, that is where you cannot pay to get out.
You will be stuck in because the courts have found that you are a public safety risk.
They have found that cash bail is not the appropriate tool to be using those cases.
They don't want people to get the chance to pay their way out at all.
They want them to be detained.
So when we're talking about removing these cash bail or cashless bail systems who have really started pivoting to preventative detention versus conditions with release, we're actually allowing more people to get out because they can now pay versus saying no, they're going to be withheld regardless.
If you'd like to discuss with our guest, Liesl Pettis, the bail system and criminal justice reform, you can go ahead and start calling now.
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So if you're in the eastern or central time zones, it's 202-748-8000.
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Now, if you have any experience with the bail system, whether for yourself or a close family member or a friend, give us a call on a line, which is 202-748-8002.
Of course, you can use our line for texting, which is 202-748-8003, or you can post to social media.
So Liesl, what are the systems in place that determine bail?