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| Good morning. | ||
| It's Sunday, July 27th, 2025. | ||
| A three-hour Washington Journal's ahead. | ||
| We begin on the topic of immigration. | ||
| At the six-month mark of the second Trump administration, we want to know how you're feeling about the president's signature campaign issue. | ||
| When it comes to President Trump's immigration and deportation policies, do you think they've been too strict, not strict enough, or about right? | ||
| Phone lines for each of those answers. | ||
| If you say too strict, it's 202-748-8000. | ||
| If you say not strict enough, it's 202-748-8001. | ||
| If you say it's about right, 202-748-8002. | ||
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| And a very good Sunday morning to you. | ||
| You can go ahead and start calling in now. | ||
| It's a bit of a Goldilocks question this morning asking whether you think it's not strict enough, too strict, or about right. | ||
| So go ahead and start calling in as we show you some of the polling on this issue. | ||
| A recent poll from the Pew Research Center notes that as the Trump administration stepped up immigration enforcement around the country, Americans are offering mixed to negative views of some of their most high-profile actions. | ||
| For example, they write, public opinion is split over the use of state and local law enforcement in deportation efforts. | ||
| 50% approve, 49% disapprove, but several other actions far less popular. | ||
| 60% of Americans disapprove of the suspension of most asylum applications. | ||
| 59% disapprove of ending temporary protective status for many immigrants who came to the United States to escape war or other disasters. | ||
| 54% disapprove of increasing immigration and customs enforcement raids on workplaces where people who are in the U.S. illegally may be working. | ||
| Some of the numbers from a recent Pew Research Center report. | ||
| It was last week at a Senate Judiciary Subcommittee hearing that California Senator Alex Padilla was talking about the Trump administration's immigration enforcement and deportation actions. | ||
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This is what he had to say. | |
| Six months into Donald Trump's second term as president, it is increasingly clear who the administration is going after. | ||
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Just look at how they're doing it. | |
| They're renting workplaces and staking out court hearings. | ||
| They're going after farmers and farm workers, students and families and business owners, many of whom, other than being undocumented, do not have any violent criminal record. | ||
| And men who have been living here, contributing to the success of their communities and the country for years and years, if not decades. | ||
| So none of what we're seeing happening around the country, or very little, is actually targeting criminals. | ||
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And I'm not asking you to take my word for it. | |
| It shouldn't be hard, but it is hard for some to take my word for it. | ||
| Let's look at the administration's own data: less than 10% of immigrants who ICE has taken into custody have serious criminal convictions. | ||
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Less than 10%. | |
| Again, don't just take my word for it. | ||
| This is the administration's data. | ||
| Now, all this is not just morally wrong. | ||
| It's also bad for our economy. | ||
| The people being targeted are often the people who are harvesting our fruit and vegetables, who work in meat packing plants or in the service industry. | ||
| The very same group of people who just a few years ago, at the outset of the COVID pandemic, Donald Trump declared essential. | ||
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And the fact of the matter is, Donald Trump has simply gone too far, and the public is starting to turn against him. | |
| California Democrat Alex Padilla, that was at a hearing last week. | ||
| It was President Trump taking questions from reporters after he landed in Scotland. | ||
| He'll be in the United Kingdom at the beginning of this coming week. | ||
| But he was talking about immigration policies. | ||
| He plans to talk about immigration in Europe while he's in England and Scotland. | ||
| But this was President Trump yesterday. | ||
| Stop the windmills. | ||
| And I also, I mean, there's a couple of things I could say, but on immigration, you better get your act together. | ||
| You're not going to have Europe anymore. | ||
| You got to get your act together. | ||
| And we, you know, as you know, last month we had nobody entering our country. | ||
| Nobody. | ||
| Shut it down. | ||
| And we took out a lot of bad people that got there with Biden. | ||
| Biden was a total stiff and what he allowed to happen, but you're allowing it to happen to your countries. | ||
| And you got to stop this horrible invasion that's happening to Europe, many countries in Europe. | ||
| Some people, some leaders have not let it happen. | ||
| And they're not getting the proper credit. | ||
| I could name them to you right now, but I'm not going to embarrass the other ones. | ||
| But stop this immigration is killing Europe. | ||
| And the other thing, stop the windmills, killing the beauty of your countries. | ||
| Thank you very much, everybody. | ||
| Was President Trump after arriving in Scotland? | ||
| Again, he'll be there at the beginning of this coming week. | ||
| We'll certainly talk about that visit on the Washington Journal in the days to come. | ||
| Asking you this Sunday morning, though, simply your view of the Trump administration's immigration and deportation policies. | ||
| Do you think they're too strict, not strict enough, or about right? | ||
| Jim at Lake Gaston on X writes in asking if we're asking about folks who are here legally seeking citizenship or asking about the folks who igalegally jumped the border saying I have strikingly different views. | ||
| Happy to talk about both those things, Jim, if you want to call in. | ||
| It's 202-748-8000. | ||
| If you think the Trump administration's immigration and deportation policies are too strict, 202-748-8001, if you think they're not strict enough, 202-748-8002 if you think it's about right. | ||
| Melvin is up first in Richmond, Virginia. | ||
| Good morning, Melvin. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
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Good morning, John. | |
| Thank you for taking my call. | ||
| John, I truly believe that the Republican Party basically is a racist party. | ||
| When you look at history, who was against civil rights? | ||
| The Republicans. | ||
| Who was against women's rights? | ||
| The Republicans. | ||
| Who was against rights for African Americans? | ||
| The Republicans. | ||
| Who is against gay rights? | ||
| So, Melvin, bring me to immigration and importation. | ||
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Throwing immigration in there. | |
| Throwing immigration in there. | ||
| It's another way for America, the American Republic Party, to be racist. | ||
| And they know it. | ||
| America, if you really want to talk about what the real economic problem is, and of course, you know, that's what the Republicans are going to tell you: is all that the immigrants are stealing all this money, you know. | ||
| The people who really affect Americans' pockets more than immigrants are the rich. | ||
| Now, yes, maybe it might cost us $5 per person to put an illegal immigrant on Medicare, but the rich steal $1,000. | ||
| So would you rather be against the person who steals $5, or would you be against the person who stole $1,000 from? | ||
| That's Melvin. | ||
| Rich is in Kingsport, Tennessee. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
| On that line for those who say about right now. | ||
| Yes, I would say going just about right with obviously a few mistakes here and there, and there are going to be some things that go a little too far occasionally, but that's true of everything that's going on. | ||
| Rich, what's an example? | ||
| A few mistakes here and there. | ||
| What do you think is something that is part of this process that might have been too far? | ||
| Probably detaining someone without papers who don't maybe when they're rounding up if they rate a place of employment and guilt by association, I think, and then they release them after being detained a short time. | ||
| I'm sure that that's going to happen with every institution, but that's what gets publicity. | ||
| Is there a place where you think that the Trump administration should do more on this front? | ||
| No, I think probably what they're doing now, I mean, there's not much more they can do. | ||
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If I could make a couple of observations. | |
| What Senator Padilla said, if you'll notice, he had qualifying words. | ||
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He didn't say they didn't have a criminal record. | |
| He said violent criminal records and then later serious criminal records. | ||
| So he's acknowledging that they are violating the law by being here. | ||
| And there's one other point I'd like to make, and that's when they talk about the essential work that they do, and of course they'll say Americans won't do it. | ||
| And that is largely due to the low pay they receive due to being under the table type of payments. | ||
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But the thing is, there's a long waiting list to get in. | |
| And the people who have jumped the line, and everyone can understand people jumping lines ahead of them. | ||
| And no one likes that. | ||
| No one agrees with that when it happens to them. | ||
| Well, that's exactly what these folks have done. | ||
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I know they may have come to work. | |
| They may have good intentions, but there is a process. | ||
| And there are many, many people who want to come who will do those jobs. | ||
| And we won't get into what the Democrats are talking about. | ||
| It sounds like slave labor that they're talking about. | ||
| They say they'll clean our rooms and pick our fruit and do their gardening and so forth. | ||
| Well, most of us here do those things for ourselves, but that sounds like they're talking about manual labor, low-skilled jobs. | ||
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They're not talking about people coming here and rising into the middle class. | |
| Rich, we'll take a point out of Tennessee. | ||
| Ryan's waiting in Orange, Massachusetts. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Hi. | |
| I like what the Trump administration is doing, but I think they could be doing a little bit more. | ||
| Number one, they could militarize the border and shoot illegals coming into the country. | ||
| Number two. | ||
| Brian, why do you think we need to go so far as to shoot people coming into the country? | ||
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Because other countries do it and they keep their immigration way down. | |
| Another thing they can do, besides when an employer hires an illegal, number one, not only should they fine them, they should imprison them for doing it. | ||
| You have to get really tough to solve this problem. | ||
| And another thing that my Democratic colleagues keep saying, oh, they're violating their due process rights, these people have very limited due process rights. | ||
| And you could also process them like a military combatant, putting them in a military tribunal, finding them guilty, and then shooting them the hell out of the country. | ||
| Us American people, we are sick and tired of having our tax dollars go to federal programs, state programs for housing for illegals who don't pay taxes into the system. | ||
| Enough is enough. | ||
| I mean, Trump's doing a good job, in my opinion, but I think they could go a lot further and solve this problem. | ||
| That's Ryan in Massachusetts. | ||
| Robert, Hudson, Florida. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Hi. | |
| Thanks for taking my call. | ||
| I am sort of the opposite of the guy who was just on from Massachusetts there. | ||
| I think that the treatment of these people is inhumane. | ||
| People were just trying to make a living, fleeing persecution, seeing what governments are there. | ||
| Now they put people in shackles, put them in what looks to me to be almost concentration camps. | ||
| You can blame President Trump, but it's not all his fault. | ||
| It's the Congress' fault. | ||
| They've been working and have been not working on immigration for years. | ||
| The system needs to be reformed so that we can get people in our country to work. | ||
| I mean, I look at immigrants that I know, that I've worked with in various places. | ||
| Immigrants come to this country willing to work, sacrifice, they're leaving their whole past behind them to leave a country, come across the whole world for an opportunity, and we shouldn't put them in shackles and ship them onto some plane with destination unknown. | ||
| So Robert, your contention is we need to get allow more opportunities for illegal immigrants in this country to work and contribute. | ||
| That's what you're saying. | ||
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We need to have a system that they can become citizens, a better immigration system altogether. | |
| An example would be the DREAMers. | ||
| We have these kids that were brought by their parents into the country 20 years ago. | ||
| And they should, I think they should just be granted citizenship. | ||
| But I'm in a minority. | ||
| I'm not, I don't believe in over-punishing people for something. | ||
| But this disturbs me more than you know. | ||
| Why is this the issue that disturbs you the most right now? | ||
| Is it the one that disturbs you the most? | ||
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It is. | |
| Why? | ||
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It is. | |
| Well, unless you could put in Israel and Gaza. | ||
| Because people, I turn on the TV and I see people are just trying to work. | ||
| They've been put in shackles by ICE people and dragged out flown to some holding pen somewhere. | ||
| Here we have Alligator Alcatraz with very few facilities for the people. | ||
| We just flew out a plane, a plane or two full of them. | ||
| And President Koofi DeSantis said it's not a way to treat a person. | ||
| They should be respected to some respect. | ||
| That's Robert in Hudson, Florida this morning. | ||
| Robert, you might be interested in this story, a front page story above the fold this morning in the New York Times, the headline, it's a wipeout, the aftershocks of an ice workplace raid. | ||
| Here's just some of the story. | ||
| It's about Glenn Valley Foods in Omaha. | ||
| For more than a decade, Glenn Valley's production reports had told a story of steady ascendance, new hires, new manufacturing lines, new sales records for one of the fastest growing meat packing companies in the Midwest. | ||
| But in a matter of weeks, production had plummeted by almost 70%. | ||
| Most of the workforce was gone. | ||
| Half the maintenance crew was in the process of being deported. | ||
| The director of human resources had stopped coming to work, and more than 50 employees were being held at a detention facility nearby in rural Nebraska. | ||
| It had been almost three weeks since dozens of federal agents arrived at the factory's door with a battering ram and a warrant for 107 workers who they said were undocumented immigrants using false identification, part of a wave of workplace raids carried out by the Trump administration over the course of this summer. | ||
| If you want to read more about Glenn Valley Foods in Omaha, again, that's the front page of today's New York Times. | ||
| This is John in Santa Paula, California. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning, and thanks for taking my calls. | |
| My 30-day calls. | ||
| I hope you hear me. | ||
| The Republicans have always been anti-slavers. | ||
| In the 1860s, Abraham Lincoln was the first Republican president who was anti-slave. | ||
| In the 60s, the Republicans went into the South and won representation and changed the South from the Jim Crow laws away from the Democrats, the Dixiecrats. | ||
| President Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, but he lost the support of the Democrats and didn't go for a second term. | ||
| So the Democrats have always been in favor of slavery. | ||
| The Republicans have always been against slavery. | ||
| So John, bring me to the immigration issue. | ||
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This brings me to my point. | |
| California today has about, in 1860, there were about 3.5 million slaves for about a total population of 35 million. | ||
| Today in California, we have about 4 million illegal immigrants. | ||
| And out of a population, about 40 million, we have the same demographics as the country did in 1860. | ||
| So California is a slave state right now. | ||
| California has people working in squalid conditions. | ||
| It's deplorable. | ||
| And the Democrats brought this on. | ||
| The Democrats brought these slaves into our country. | ||
| And they're trying, just like the rebels did in the Civil War, they're trying to fight to keep their slaves. | ||
| So it's a Democrat issue, and the Republicans are anti-slavery. | ||
| So I support President Trump, who's a good Republican. | ||
| And it's a Republican-Democrat issue that Republicans are anti-slavery. | ||
| That's John in California. | ||
| This is Jim in Mark, Texas. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Yeah, I think Trump and them are doing just about right on the thing. | ||
| You know, they offering, they won't let these people leave. | ||
| If you come in, first of all, it's very unfair to all the legal people. | ||
| We let in, I think, around a million a year. | ||
| And I think it's very unfair to the people that worked their tail off. | ||
| They went to all the classes. | ||
| They got all the shots. | ||
| Hepatitis A, hepatitis B. You have to get a lot of shots to come in and to come across the board legally. | ||
| They didn't. | ||
| They wanted to come in. | ||
| And then Biden and them was giving them Medicaid and free money. | ||
| And the people that did it the right way have come in. | ||
| I mean, I think they're really, I know a lot of Hispanic people, and they come over a lot of times and have morning coffee with me. | ||
| You know, some of them are retired ranchers and farmers like I am. | ||
| Jim, do you think we should do you think we should increase legal immigration? | ||
| Do you think that million a year number is about right? | ||
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I think so if your system can handle it, you know, really, all this illegal stuff that Biden and them was doing, you're actually, you're hurting legal immigrants. | |
| I mean, they come over here and did it the right way. | ||
| They, like I say, they busted their tail. | ||
| And, you know, and they're going to get, and you was actually, Biden and them was giving the illegals one that hadn't done it nothing. | ||
| He was giving them Medicaid and all these benefits, you know, and they hadn't done nothing to earn it. | ||
| And the ones that come over here legal and did it the right way, you know, they're getting shafted. | ||
| Got your point, Jim. | ||
| This is Dennis in Williamsport, Pennsylvania. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Thanks for taking my call. | ||
| I want to speak about locally how it's starting to hit home. | ||
| And this is an extremely Republican area. | ||
| Just had a roofing crew raided in South Williamsport by ICE over in the Scranton-Wilkesbury area. | ||
| They just picked up a ICE picked up a business owner that has been in this country for 23 years that owned three restaurants. | ||
| These restaurants were hugely successful restaurants, and the people that went to those restaurants are just raising hell. | ||
| And I mean, they are really upset. | ||
| And I'm sure a lot of them voted for LDJ. | ||
| And this is starting to hit home. | ||
| I also know a plant manager who has said he has five people that with their absentee policy should be fired. | ||
| And there is such a labor shortage in this country that he can't get rid of them because he wouldn't be able to hire replacement people. | ||
| And this is the thing that is really starting to hit home. | ||
| Dennis, you talk about starting every night that retire in this country. | ||
| You talk about starting to hit home. | ||
| Dennis, before you go, I want to get your reaction to these numbers. | ||
| It's from a recent CBS News poll. | ||
| It's about changing views on the Trump administration's deportation efforts. | ||
| Going back to February, a month into the second Trump administration, 59% of respondents saying that they approve of the Trump administration's efforts to deport illegal immigrants. | ||
| 41% disapproved. | ||
| You can see those numbers changing in June down to 54% approving. | ||
| Now, the most recent poll that came out July 16th and 18th is when it was in the field. | ||
| Just 49% saying they approve of the Trump administration's program to deport immigrants illegally in the United States. | ||
| 51% saying they disapprove. | ||
| Those are some of the numbers over time. | ||
| We lost the color, but interested in other folks' reaction as well. | ||
| This is Robert in St. Petersburg, Florida. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| I say that it's not strict enough. | ||
| 70% of them aren't vetted, weren't vetted, so we don't know who the criminals are and who the criminals aren't. | ||
| And if they give them asylum, you can be hiring somebody in a nursing home or a hospital or a daycare that has no background checked at all. | ||
| Robert, in terms of knowing who the criminals are and aren't, do you think we're in a better place today than we were seven months ago? | ||
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Yes. | |
| As far as Trump enforcing them out of here and coming back in vetted. | ||
| 70%, I say, unvetted. | ||
| And there's no way. | ||
| How are you going to check the background of somebody that comes from Cuba? | ||
| That's Robert in St. Petersburg, Florida. | ||
| More from Capitol Hill last week. | ||
| This was Tuesday last week, a Senate Judiciary Subcommittee hearing. | ||
| The headline was Biden's Border Betrayal. | ||
| It included testimony from a South Texas mother whose son, a former Marine and Border Patrol agent, was fatally shot by two illegal immigrants in 2014. | ||
| This is some of her story. | ||
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The two illegals jumped out of the stolen vehicle they were driving, and without hesitation or a warning, they began shooting at us, even at us without even asking us to hand over the keys. | |
| In the process, Harvey was shot in the chest. | ||
| My husband, Javier, was shot in the back, and they continued shooting at the rest of us, which included me, my daughter-in-law, two grandsons, and their friend. | ||
| When I heard the yelling coming from the illegals while they shot at us, I fell back off the chair that I was sitting on, and I struggled to get up, but instead had to crawl to my son, who had tried to pick up an AR, which he had left leaning by the truck to defend us. | ||
| Do you know what it is like to see your son go down after being shot? | ||
| Do you know what it is like to hear the gunshots, bullets whizzing past you? | ||
| Do you know what it's like when your mind is trying to process everything, telling your grandchildren to duck while thinking your son is on the ground with a bullet in his chest? | ||
| Do you know what it's like to hear your son's last words to his father? | ||
| Keep shooting, dad. | ||
| Keep shooting were his last words. | ||
| That should never have happened. | ||
| Illegal aliens have impacted American lives in a very negative way. | ||
| They have no regard for human life, as I witnessed firsthand. | ||
| The illegals that killed Harvey also shot my husband in the back and shot at innocent children and women. | ||
| My grandbabies and their friend were only 8 and 11 years old. | ||
| Take a moment and imagine your child or grandchild witnessing this heart, this heart. | ||
| How does that make you feel? | ||
| Would you be okay with this? | ||
| Had our immigration laws been enforced, our son would be here. | ||
| Barack Obama failed me, my family, and our community and our nation. | ||
| That was from last week on Capitol Hill. | ||
| If you want to watch it in its entirety, it's available on our website at c-span.org. | ||
| Back to your phone calls asking you simply your view of the Trump administration's immigration and deportation policy six months into the second Trump administration. | ||
| If you think it's too strict, 202-748-8000. | ||
| If you think it's not strict enough, 202-748-8001. | ||
| And if you think it's about right, 202748-8002. | ||
| As we said, a bit of a Goldilocks question in this first hour of the Washington Journal. | ||
| We're about a half an hour in. | ||
| This is John in Syracuse. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning, and thank you for taking my call. | |
| It's such a complex problem that we're in, and I just listened to that mom who lost her son. | ||
| I think, first of all, me personally, I think they should try to leave the 11 million here and give them a path to citizenship. | ||
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And yes, try to root out those that are criminals. | |
| I think the problem we're having is we're weaponizing and demonizing the immigrants that are here illegally. | ||
| My mother was an immigrant from Italy. | ||
| So I guess I can understand a little bit how she would tell us how she was mistreated. | ||
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But they're weaponizing these people. | |
| The majority of mass shootings and killings in the United States are done by white American citizens, starting in Oklahoma with Nelson and McBay blowing up the federal building, starting with the shooter in Las Vegas with his AR-15, which he turned into a fully automatic and killed 52 people and wounded 115. | ||
| All of these, you know, Sandy Hook, Florida, Buffalo, New York, these were done by white U.S. citizens. | ||
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So, you know, making the immigrants out to be all murderers is absurd. | |
| John, you say we need to find a path to citizenship for the people who are here. | ||
| There are folks who will hear that and hear in that amnesty. | ||
| And in that, we'll say, if we give amnesty, then that only encourages a whole nother generation of illegal immigrants to come in and wait for the next round of amnesty. | ||
| What would you say to somebody who thinks that? | ||
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Well, I mean, I agree with the secure border. | |
| I don't disagree with this border policy right now of keeping the borders secure. | ||
| But it's going to take a lot of money to deport 11 million people. | ||
| There are some people here. | ||
| There are immigrants here that they're just trying to make it. | ||
| And if you look at it, if that's the case then, then you would go to corporate America and say to them, well, if we find out that you have illegal immigrants here, then you're going to pay a million-dollar fine every day. | ||
| So then that's going to curtail it. | ||
| But here's the other issue. | ||
| The other issue is the lazy American, who's not going to bend down and backbreaking work and pick those strawberries, not going to do it. | ||
| They're just not going to do it because they don't, first of all, they don't pay any money. | ||
| I mean, basically, some states don't even know what their minimum wage is anymore, but they're not going to do it. | ||
| And that's the issue. | ||
| The issue is if there's no work here for them, they probably won't even come. | ||
| But they know that the lazy American is not going to do that. | ||
| Not going to pick those strawberries, not going to pick those grapes, not going to do any of that work. | ||
| They're just not going to do it. | ||
| And again, it's a complex situation. | ||
| This party blaming the Republicans blaming the Democrats, the Democrats are blaming the Republicans. | ||
| Barack Obama, he actually deported an awful lot of people. | ||
| So I just think that to save a lot of time, to save a lot of money, to save a lot of heartache, give them a path to citizenship, deport the ones that are bad and keep the border closed, and go after these corporations that if you want to try to stop it, then you have to go after the corporations that are hiring them and just say you're going to pay a fine if we catch them, that you're hiring these people. | ||
| I mean, you can quit blaming parties and we're at each other's throats and making them out to be massive murderers. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
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And thank you for my call. | |
| That's John in New York. | ||
| Here's a few of your comments via social media on Facebook. | ||
| Kevin writes in that when it comes to the Trump administration's immigration and deportation policies, it's a good beginning. | ||
| This is Jason saying it's about right and necessary task after four years of reckless left-wing open border policy. | ||
| And saying the way the policies are being implemented right now are beyond criminal. | ||
| And Vicki saying when I was a teenager, jobs in meatpacking were great jobs to have. | ||
| Lots of people could raise their families on that wage. | ||
| If you are hiring illegals, you deserve to lose your business. | ||
| In reference to that New York Times story about a meat packing plant in Omaha and the impacts of an ICE raid on the workplace, you can read that story at the New York Times website, and you can call in this morning on phone lines split this way if you think they're too strict, not strict enough, or about right. | ||
| As we said, it's a bit of a Goldilocks question. | ||
| This is Sandra in Jackson, New Jersey. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Hi. | |
| Thank you for taking my call. | ||
| I have to say, John from New York really stressed what I was going to say. | ||
| I agree with him totally. | ||
| I think it's more supply and demand. | ||
| I think people, if there weren't jobs here, they wouldn't be coming. | ||
| So I think the problem is they're not doing anything with the employer. | ||
| The employers are the one hiring them. | ||
| They're the ones that are hiring at a lower rate. | ||
| I don't understand why so much, I mean, immigrants should be here legally, but we don't give them the way to come here legally. | ||
| We're not hiring judges to hear their case. | ||
| I just feel there's too much emphasis on the immigrant. | ||
| Why isn't there enough emphasis on the people that are hiring them that aren't giving them a fair wage? | ||
| That so-called taking jobs away from America. | ||
| And I think if they weren't there, if they weren't being hired, they wouldn't be here illegally. | ||
| That's all I have to say. | ||
| Mike in Ohio, good morning. | ||
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Yes, I'm looking at the creation of this immigration problem around the planet. | |
| And a lot of it has to do with foreign policy. | ||
| And I think when you embargo and sanction and take off market and then think back to Ollie North, a trading machine guns for cocaine in South America, disrupting those people's lives and creating chaos, you're going to have an immigration problem. | ||
| So I look at our foreign policy, going clear back to Reagan when he was the president of the Actors Union and he was a Democrat. | ||
| And then when he became president, he was a union buster. | ||
| And that created no oversight, no accountability, no transparency, and the corruption we have today. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Joshua, Crystal Bay, Nevada. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| I don't think we're being strict enough, and there's a lot to unpack here. | ||
| I'd like to discuss the recent riots going on in L.A., and I find it baffling that people are waving a flag of the country that they don't want to be sent to. | ||
| I also think there's a lot of misconceptions out there as to how the ICE ratings are going down. | ||
| I've heard lots from people about normal people just randomly having their doors busted down. | ||
| And what people don't understand is that they're going, for the most part, for illegals that have already been convicted of crimes. | ||
| Not just slap-on-the-risk type of crimes, but actual violent crimes, such as murder or sexual assault. | ||
| People say that they come here because it's safer, which is completely understandable. | ||
| But if our border is open, what's going to keep the reason why they want to come here in the first place out of the U.S.? | ||
| I was not a Trump supporter, but I seriously think that Biden reversed a lot of the crucial things that Trump did in his previous presidency to keep our borders closed. | ||
| I myself am an immigrant. | ||
| I have an amino immigrant. | ||
| And I believe that they should be here in a legal manner, though. | ||
| A problem is they don't have the means of doing it. | ||
| And the solution should not be for them to be here legally, but it indeed should be a punishable offense. | ||
| But at the same time, they need a safer place. | ||
| But on the other hand, it's still a huge concern for public safety, letting whoever wants to come here. | ||
| I'll shoot all over your You talk about ICE raids. | ||
| The New York Times story that we referenced, it's the above the fold on the Sunday New York Times today. | ||
| They interview Gary Rohrer, who's 84 years old, the owner of the meatpacking company, Glen Valley Foods in Omaha. | ||
| Just a little bit more from that story. | ||
| Rohrer, age 84, had always used a federal online system called e-Verify to check whether his employers were eligible to work. | ||
| And Glen Valley Foods itself had not been accused of any violations. | ||
| Rohr was a registered Republican in a conservative state, but he voted for a Democrat for the first time in 2024, in part because of Trump's treatment of immigrants. | ||
| Rohr couldn't square the government's accusations of criminal dishonesty with the employees that he'd known for decades as salts of the earth, incredible people who helped build this company. | ||
| Most of them had no criminal history aside from a handful of traffic violations. | ||
| Many were working mothers, and now they were calling his office from detention asking for legal advice. | ||
| Their children, U.S. citizens, were struggling at home and in some cases subsisting on donations of the company's frozen steak. | ||
| I'm still furious about what happened to our people, but we have to keep the machines running, Rohrer said in an interview. | ||
| We need more people trained. | ||
| We need to be ready to go. | ||
| Trained by who, another manager asked. | ||
| We lost every supervisor out there. | ||
| If you ran a machine or checked temperatures or did anything important, you're gone. | ||
| The story goes on from there. | ||
| If you want to read more of it, it's in today's New York Times. | ||
| Ricardo is in Easton, Pennsylvania. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Well, I was born here in the United States in Newark, New Jersey. | ||
| I live now in Eastern Pennsylvania. | ||
| My father, who was born in 1956, came to America in 1974. | ||
| And my mother was born in Guatemala, and she came in 1968. | ||
| Well, she was born in 1948, came in 68. | ||
| Both of them became citizens in the 80s, and that's when they got married and had me. | ||
| And I have many moments when I get upset about a lot of what I consider to be anti-immigration rhetoric that I'll hear on cable news by pundits or by President Trump and other people of that sort. | ||
| They came here legally. | ||
| They did everything that they needed to do. | ||
| They filled out their paperwork. | ||
| They took the classes, paid the fees, and took the oath and all that sort of thing. | ||
| And none of us are okay with illegal immigration. | ||
| And we are, of course, especially not okay with anybody who commits crimes. | ||
| So, Ricardo, bring me to legal. | ||
| Bring me to 2025 and how the Trump administration is following through on its promises when it comes to immigration deportation. | ||
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Well, I feel like he's deporting people who shouldn't be, including students and other workers who are here legally. | |
| And, you know, they've said things that he doesn't like. | ||
| They participate in anti-Trump protests. | ||
| I've heard stories about people who are going to government offices to take their immigration exams. | ||
| And, you know, they get arrested and deported. | ||
| And I don't have any opposition to immigrants, legal or illegal, to being deported if they've committed a crime. | ||
| But if they have not, that shouldn't happen. | ||
| That's Ricardo. | ||
| This is Betty in Blacksburg, South Carolina. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, I think Trump's doing a good job. | ||
| I mean, when they was coming across the border, I heard, I don't know if somebody asked them, would they come here to go to work? | ||
| And they said no. | ||
| And I don't think that the American people ought to be paying our tax money to keep all these people up. | ||
| And I agree with people that comes here that's been here and works and they pay taxes just like we do and everything. | ||
| They should be able to stay. | ||
| And another thing, they should get rid of the ones that's killing and sex trapping and all that, kids and all. | ||
| Trump's done a good, the Republicans has been doing a good job. | ||
| It's the Democrats is all for all of this. | ||
| That's all they do. | ||
| They're the ones that should be locked up, not the Republicans, but they stay on this man from the time he come into office and steal on him. | ||
| But you know what comes around goes around sooner or later. | ||
| They're going to get, and it's just started coming around, like Rock Obama and all this other stuff. | ||
| These immigrants, if they do something to one of y'all family members, maybe y'all will change y'all's mind when they kill somebody in your family or rape them. | ||
| Betty, has your family been impacted by an illegal crime committed by an illegal immigrant? | ||
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No, no, not yet, but that don't mean it ain't. | |
| But I know the American people have a hard time since these people started coming across the board, and we've been having to keep them up. | ||
| And we shouldn't have to keep them up. | ||
| Nobody's kept us up. | ||
| That's Betty in South Carolina. | ||
| Here's a story from The Independent. | ||
| The headline, ICE is now richer than most of the world's militaries, thanks to Donald Trump's new funding, noting that through the president's signature domestic policy, the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, ICE's annual budget is expected to increase from $8.7 billion to approximately $27.7 billion, with $75 billion allocated for the agency over the next four years. | ||
| The annual funding bump is an unprecedented amount for ICE, they write. | ||
| It surpasses the annual military budgets of Iran, Turkey, Spain, Mexico, and also at least 23 countries in the top 40 of military spenders. | ||
| That's according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute. | ||
| You can see their numbers, and that's the story from The Independent. | ||
| This is Michael in Essex, Connecticut. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| And listen, I want to thank you very much for C-SPAN and for Washington Journal. | ||
| You guys are amazing. | ||
| You really are. | ||
| You make us all smarter every time, every day. | ||
| And I love the way you will occasionally challenge a caller, especially the more extreme callers. | ||
| I wish you would do it more. | ||
| Just challenge them a little on their position, and you'll find out that their positions are usually born out of ignorance. | ||
| And feel free to do it to me if you choose. | ||
| But I love hearing that because you really get to hear who the person is. | ||
| So, Michael, what are your thoughts on this question? | ||
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The question, real simple. | |
| These aren't Trump's policies, they're not immigration policies. | ||
| They're white supremacist policies. | ||
| And the truth is, his focus is on people of color and that and that only. | ||
| They're really not immigration policies. | ||
| If he's interested in illegal immigration, he will specifically go into very specific places. | ||
| Boston, where there are thousands of illegal Irish people. | ||
| I was born and raised in Boston. | ||
| I understand the city. | ||
| Go to New York. | ||
| I could show you where all the illegal Russian immigrants live. | ||
| Nobody's going after them. | ||
| None. | ||
| I could show you where the Polish community has many, many illegal immigrants further north in the United States of America. | ||
| No, we're only targeting brown ones. | ||
| And if you've got a tattoo, there's not a chance. | ||
| And let me point this one thing out to you. | ||
| I don't want to take up a lot of time. | ||
| I'm a dark-skinned individual, born and raised in America, born and raised in Boston, lived in New York. | ||
| I live in Connecticut now. | ||
| I've been called a dangerous illegal alien on vacation in Florida, right here in my own hometown. | ||
| I have people who won't even look at me or talk to me because they think, and I know what they think because I might hear it through someone else. | ||
| But I just want to leave you with this final thought. | ||
| We have someone in our neighborhood driving around in a fake army vehicle, and it's clear what he's trying to do with the giant flags and trying to intimidate certain people. | ||
| I brought it to the attention of police officers, one police officer in particular. | ||
| And when I brought it to him, he asked me what I was worried about. | ||
| And I said, listen, I'm not really worried, but I think it's clear what he's trying to do. | ||
| And you ought to just keep an eye on this person. | ||
| And he says, he says, well, you think he thinks you're illegal? | ||
| I said, I don't know what he thinks. | ||
| He says, because you don't look illegal to me, you look Italian. | ||
| And I pointed out to him, what does an illegal person look like? | ||
| Can I be Italian and be illegal? | ||
| Can I be Irish and be illegal? | ||
| Do I have to be brown skinned and look Mexican to be illegal? | ||
| And he, I realized in that moment, he represents so much of America, which is okay with white supremacist attitudes. | ||
| Michael, can I just isolate Can I ask you on the white supremacist policies? | ||
| You say these are white supremacist policies. | ||
| What do you say to the caller? | ||
| And Trump supporters have called in and pointed this out before, that Hispanic voters divided in 2024. | ||
| In 2020, Joe Biden won Hispanic voters by 25 percentage points. | ||
| Hispanic voters supported Hillary Clinton by an even wider margin in 2016. | ||
| Trump drew nearly even with Kamala Harris among Hispanic voters, losing them by only three points in 2024. | ||
| When it comes to black voters, Trump nearly doubled his support in 2024 among black voters. | ||
| 8% voted for him in 2020, 15% last year. | ||
| What do you say to the folks who say he's gaining more support in minority communities? | ||
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That's easy. | |
| The worst racist you're ever going to meet are racists who are people of color. | ||
| That includes people in my own family who I have to deal with. | ||
| That includes, I've got Jewish friends who won't tell people they're Jewish. | ||
| And I know you're a bright guy, and I know you know people like this. | ||
| But once you're in this country and doing well, you see others as the problem. | ||
| Once you've got yours, you don't want others to take it. | ||
| And that goes for brown people who literally, and I mean this for my own family, who don't want other brown people around. | ||
| I get criticized when I speak of my Latin side. | ||
| In my own family, I'll be criticized by it. | ||
| Because you're in, you're American. | ||
| Just play it safe, Mike. | ||
| Play it safe. | ||
| They don't have to know our entire history. | ||
| And I refuse. | ||
| If you're silent, you're the problem. | ||
| You need to speak up. | ||
| You need to recognize what's going on. | ||
| This really is ethnic cleansing more than anything. | ||
| It's ethnic cleansing. | ||
| It's getting rid of people of color. | ||
| Once we understand that, our Congress should be putting together immigration laws that need to get passed. | ||
| Remember they did that last year? | ||
| And who killed those immigration law proposals? | ||
| Donald Trump. | ||
| Don't forget that, please. | ||
| That's Michael in Connecticut. | ||
| This is Joe in Manassas, Virginia. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Hi, yeah. | |
| Thanks for the call. | ||
| First of all, Louis, wow, that guy before head is typical of the problem of why what Trump is doing now is about right. | ||
| But guys like him are the reason that it gets so hard because he sees racism everywhere and white supremacy and all this other kind of stuff. | ||
| And they use that as a Trump card to get rid of rational discussion. | ||
| I mean, it's appalling. | ||
| It's really disgusting. | ||
| And it is racism for him, guys like him, to constantly say white supremacy, white supremacy, white supremacy. | ||
| If 90% of the people happen to not be white, and you're focusing on 90%, that's not racist. | ||
| Anyway, the point I was going to make is that part of the problem here is that the liberals and the Democrats' own policies are making this a lot harder and causing a lot more pain and suffering than needs to because of the fact that they won't have cooperation with local law enforcement to ICE. | ||
| So what's I supposed to do? | ||
| If places like California, New York aren't telling where the criminal or the other criminal, high criminal illegal immigrants are, they won't tell them the court records, they won't tell them where they are. | ||
| So, of course, you're going to have to go to places that sweep, and you might sweep up some people that you wouldn't have focused on before, but they're still illegal. | ||
| You're not going to, if you're going after a murderer or a rapist or something, and you go to a place and you find five other illegal immigrants who maybe didn't commit a crime other than being here illegally, yeah, you're going to sweep them up. | ||
| So, all of this, you know, clutching our pearls about how horrible this is, that these people are being fucked up. | ||
| Where are these Democrats and where are these people crying white supremacy at all these phony issues? | ||
| It just makes me so angry every time somebody yells white supremacy and they think that's a truck card. | ||
| But why not stop the sanctuary city policies, everything like that? | ||
| That would, the Trump administrator wants to focus on the extremely dangerous people, but they're quite often left with no choice because, like I said, the Sanctuary City or the Sanctuary State places won't let them do it or won't make or make it very hard to do it. | ||
| And then the final thing is a question on what you brought up, though. | ||
| You talked about they may find other people who have committed a crime other than being here illegally. | ||
| And so those people need to be swept up and deported. | ||
| Is that a fair assessment of what you're saying? | ||
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Yeah, absolutely. | |
| People here illegally, they should be. | ||
| So is being here illegal, just being here illegally and not having any other sort of criminal record, should that be enough for you to be swept up and kicked out of this country? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Now, maybe it shouldn't be the focus. | ||
| It shouldn't be the focus. | ||
| But what are you going to do? | ||
| Just let somebody go. | ||
| Oh, you're here illegally? | ||
| Well, you didn't commit a rape, so you can stay. | ||
| Now, maybe it shouldn't be the focus, but I'll tell you one thing: if the Sanctuary City, if people would cooperate with ICE and tell them where the hardened criminals are, you would get less, in their view, they're innocent people. | ||
| Nobody's innocent. | ||
| I mean, they're here illegally. | ||
| But yeah, you're not going to just let them go. | ||
| That would be, what kind of logic is that? | ||
| Just to say, oh, well, you didn't rape anybody, so you can stay here. | ||
| You know, you're here illegally. | ||
| That's how begets the law itself. | ||
| You know, that's so, I mean, it's, you know, and then final point on this guy who says, oh, who's going to pick our strawberries? | ||
| Who's going to do it? | ||
| Who's going to clean our restrooms and things like that? | ||
| That's just so. | ||
| Again, that is an unbelievably demeaning and racist and elitist point of view by basically saying, oh, well, these people are good enough. | ||
| And I do say these people because I honestly think the leftists, this guy before had talked about racism, the left is astonishingly racist on this. | ||
| They think, oh, well, these illegal immigrants, they can do all this horrible work because it's not good enough work for Americans. | ||
| There's not people here going to do it. | ||
| How to solve that problem? | ||
| Make people work for their benefits. | ||
| If you pull a Medicaid and pull food stamps away from people, if they're not going to work, and then people probably work. | ||
| And yeah, wages will have to go up a little bit. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| So, you know, all of this talk about how racist this stuff is, that is unbelievably racist in itself. | ||
| Joe, got your point in Virginia. | ||
| This is John in Conway, South Carolina. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Well, we got a lot laying on the table, don't we? | ||
| Here's the big thing is: I had my own business for over 20 years. | ||
| The area I was in, Mexicans started coming in working. | ||
| I have no problem. | ||
| You know, I want everybody to get above. | ||
| You know, we all need to eat and survive in this country. | ||
| But here's the problem: they have knocked us out completely in work when it comes to our wages. | ||
| What I used to make $100 a square for is like $20 a square now because they can get 25 Mexicans to come in and build a house. | ||
| What used to pay $15 a foot is paying $6 a foot because they can get 20 Mexicans to come in and build a house. | ||
| We're not going after the problem. | ||
| The problem is these home builders, they're the problem. | ||
| They've cut ourselves to the point that we can't even afford the insurance to run a business. | ||
| Okay, there's a ghost policy out there. | ||
| One Mexican has got the money for it, and he'll hire 80 head on that one policy. | ||
| I was doing the same houses, and I couldn't even pay my employees. | ||
| The house didn't pay enough to pay the employees a weekly salary. | ||
| John, in what you were seeing in. | ||
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I had to give up my do what now? | |
| In how prices were being undercut, as you describe, were the eventual selling prices of those homes going down? | ||
| Was it at least resulting in more affordable houses? | ||
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No, some of these houses right now, I'm in Conway, South Carolina. | |
| Now, I'm seeing houses doing that. | ||
| $200,000 all day long. | ||
| You could build for $80,000 and $90,000. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Being honest. | ||
| This is being honest because I've seen the projects go like they're going. | ||
| But if you go out to these projects and see who's building, there's no American people out there building houses. | ||
| There's no black man laying the concrete no more. | ||
| There's no, I mean, seriously, this is honestly, it's an 80% Mexican building propaganda going on. | ||
| They're not taking these home builders, they are not getting fines. | ||
| They're not getting no kind of representation of the worst that they're doing to us. | ||
| So you're saying the home builders are using cheaper labor and still charging the same prices? | ||
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Correct. | |
| I mean, they're filling their pockets and we're paying the price. | ||
| You're getting dog. | ||
| What do you do now? | ||
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Seriously. | |
| Are you still in the homebuilding business? | ||
| No. | ||
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I can't afford it. | |
| I can't. | ||
| Right now, I'm actually working two jobs. | ||
| I do, you know, if I can do little odds and ends on the side to make a little bit, I mean, I'm making less now than I made in 1985. | ||
| That's how sad this is. | ||
| I mean, you got, I mean, big companies, D.R. Horton Manufacturing, Dem, they're paying chunk change. | ||
| And, I mean, I get a lot of work after the Mexicans are done because the work is crappy and they're building the house in four days when the house should be at least, you know, a week to two weeks, you know, in framing. | ||
| I mean, this is ridiculous how things are getting done. | ||
| And the rich man is getting richer. | ||
| I mean, seriously, Richard, I mean, it was a man, if he ain't making at least $800 a week today, he needs food stamps. | ||
| I mean, I just, my first time I applied for insurance from, you know, my personal health insurance, I got a $9,200 deductible. | ||
| I mean, I'm not even making $2,000 a month now because of this. | ||
| I went from a man making $100,000 a year to a man barely making, maybe, if I'm lucky, $30,000 a year. | ||
| That's being lucky, and that's working seven days a week. | ||
| That's John in South Carolina. | ||
| Time for just one or two more calls. | ||
| This is Don in New Mexico, Las Cruces. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning, John. | |
| I'm going to go back to the theme of do we want a white supremac America. | ||
| And you just recently asked the man about, you know, people coming into the country. | ||
| And you asked him in terms of Latinate people. | ||
| But I want to focus on another element. | ||
| And we're now deporting Afghan interpreters who worked with us when we were in Afghanistan. | ||
| So here are these people who gave their lives, you know, and are a threat to their lives, are a threat in Afghanistan, and they're being expelled. | ||
| Another example of white supremacy works: we no longer want foreign students to come to the United States, and they add incredibly. | ||
| Another example is we bring in foreign doctors because we do not have doctors in rural America, and we've now cut them out. | ||
| So the real issue, you know, is do we want a white supremac America? | ||
| And the Bush administration, the Obama administration, the Biden administration had an immigration bill, and they were shot down by Republicans. | ||
| And they were shot down Republicans because it plays to the fear, the hate, and the greed of people in this country. | ||
| But it also appeals to their racist, white supremacist fascist states. | ||
| Now, the present legislation, its major emphasis is on deportation. | ||
| And we understand that. | ||
| And we're ready to send these deported people to a concentration camp in El Salvador. | ||
| That's what we're ready and willing to do. | ||
| The Trump administration has fired 17 immigration judges. | ||
| 17. | ||
| So if this is about immigration, you know, why are we firing judges? | ||
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Our goal is to get people of color out of this country. | |
| And another facet of this is DEI. | ||
| Why is DEI so appealing? | ||
| Because we go back to the old white supremacist, white privileged America. | ||
| So here we are. | ||
| We find ourselves, you know, unwilling to do real legislation. | ||
| If Republicans were interested in legislation, they could deal with the element of asylum. | ||
| Have they done it? | ||
| No, they have not. | ||
| That's Don in New Mexico to your first point about Afghan interpreters. | ||
| This is a story from Scripps News within the past week. | ||
| Afghan interpreter in U.S. legally detained by ICE at routine green card appointment. | ||
| Zia S, a 35-year-old husband and father of five who came to the U.S. legally, was arrested by massed ICE agents following a routine biometrics appointment for his green card. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| Time for one more call. | ||
| Let me get in, Steve from Freeland, Maryland. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Another federal, state, and local government jobs program. | ||
| Illegal immigration. | ||
| This is going on for 40 years. | ||
| I'm 61 years old. | ||
| Where's the legislative branch? | ||
| Where are they always? | ||
| On vacation. | ||
| America does not solve problems anymore. | ||
| We're not a nation that can solve problems. | ||
| We are a nation of talkers, though. | ||
| We'll talk points to death with different viewpoints and different things, but solve a problem. | ||
| That's something we don't do in this country, is solve problems. | ||
| That's Steve Maryland. | ||
| Our last caller in this first segment of the Washington Journal. | ||
| Stick around, though. | ||
| Plenty more to talk about today. | ||
| Coming up in about an hour and 15 minutes, we'll be joined by Greg Sargent, staff writer for the new Republic. | ||
| We'll talk about House and Senate Democrats' agenda. | ||
| Up next, it's Mark Lauder, co-host of Newsmax's Wake Up America, a conversation about the first six months of the second Trump administration. | ||
| Stick around. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| In a word, Evan Osnos' latest book focuses on the subject of money. | ||
| His book is titled The Haves and the Have Yachts: Dispatches on the Ultra Rich. | ||
| There are 10 essays which originally appeared in his home publication, The New Yorker. | ||
| The oldest one, Survival of the Richest, ran in 2017. | ||
| The newest, titled Land of Make-Believe, was published in 2024. | ||
| In his introduction, Evan Osnos writes that, quote, reporting in the enclaves of the very rich, Monte Carlo, Palm Beach, Palo Alto, and Hollywood is complicated. | ||
| It's not a world that relishes scrutiny. | ||
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Author Evan Osnos, with his book, The Haves and the Have Yachts, Dispatches on the Ultra Rich. | |
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