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kimberly adams
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@geo motion
Today marks one year since candidate Donald Trump survived an assassination attempt at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
Real Clear Politics is reporting that he later allegedly said that he didn't want one of the agents from the Butler event anywhere near him ever again.
That according to several Secret Service sources familiar with his comments.
The article goes on to say that the agency has announced limited disciplinary actions for those it deemed responsible for security lapses.
Six agents, including Mayosoti Perez, whom Trump was referring to, were placed on 10 to 42 days of unpaid leave for their roles in the security breaches.
Kim Cheadle was the head of the Secret Service at the time.
She was summoned to Congress to testify on the operational failures and resigned soon after.
We'll show you that House Oversight and Accountability Committee hearing and her complete testimony today at 3.15 p.m. Eastern on C-SPAN.
unidentified
Tonight on C-SPAN's Q&A, Dr. Robert Malone, recently appointed to the CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, talks about his book Psywar, in which he argues that the U.S. government uses psychological warfare against Americans to control them.
He also talks about how his career as a virologist and immunologist took a turn after he criticized the government's response to the COVID pandemic.
dr robert malone
I think what we had was kind of an emergent, multifaceted campaign that was driven by fear and driven by a number of falsehoods that were readily accepted and promoted through money by various organizations such as USAID and various NGOs,
and perhaps by the pharmaceutical industry to suppress alternative voices and promote a harmonized narrative wrapped around the logic that anything that would cause people to become vaccine hesitant had to be suppressed.
unidentified
And of course, that is in direct opposition to the logic of informed consent.
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kimberly adams
Good morning.
It's Sunday, July 13th, 2025.
President Trump is threatening a new round of tariffs on goods from the European Union and Mexico and is expressing openness to a new plan to get more American weapons to Ukraine.
This morning, we're taking a look at President Trump's diplomacy efforts about six months into his second term, and we want to know what's your confidence in his foreign policy.
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Now, this latest update, when it comes to our ongoing trade war and the tariffs, there's a story about it in Axios.
Trump threatens EU Mexico with a 30% tariff rate.
That was on Saturday that Trump posted those letters threatening those 30% tariffs as of August the 1st.
Trump has reverted to the fully aggressive trade posture he took in early April with a stable economy at his back and financial markets showing no signs of stopping him.
Just as in April, investors say the tariffs he's rolled out this week are substantially higher than markets expected.
But unlike April, stocks are exploring new highs, not new lows, while bonds remain tranquil.
In separate letters posted on Truth Social on Saturday, Trump said that the U.S. would implement tariffs of 30% on U.S.-bound goods from Mexico and Europe.
In the case of Europe, the letter disrupts the talks between the two nations aimed at landing a deal this month.
Trump's threat for higher levies on Mexican goods escalates trade tensions across North America, which the White House has used to try to pressure Mexico and Canada to tighten up border controls.
Now, turning to the ongoing conflict in Ukraine and the U.S. role in it, this is a story from just yesterday that Trump reveals a NATO sales sale boost to boost arms to Ukraine.
As Putin launches an overnight maternity hospital strike, European allies are prepared to purchase U.S. arms for Kyiv as the president plans a major statement on Russia.
President Donald Trump on Thursday night revealed a new NATO deal reached during last month's summit that would allow U.S. arms to flow to Ukraine through allied nations, an agreement reached at last month's summit.
We're sending weapons to NATO and NATO is paying for those weapons 100%, Trump said in a phone interview with NBC News.
So what we're doing is the weapons that are going out are going to NATO and then NATO is going to be giving those weapons to Ukraine and NATO is paying for those weapons.
We send weapons to NATO and NATO is going to reimburse the full cost of those weapons, he added.
Now, Trump did not detail which weapons were included in the sales or which countries were involved in the deal, though his comments come as European leaders signal they were prepared to purchase U.S. arms for Ukraine.
Now, after meeting with Russia's foreign minister overseas, Secretary of State Marco Rubio spoke of the nature of the talks about ending the war in Ukraine.
These are comments that he made on Thursday before the President's announcement.
marco rubio
Our strategy is to continue to engage all the parties that are involved in finding an outcome to this conflict.
We will engage anytime that we have an opportunity to do so, like we did today.
I echoed what the President has said of both disappointment and frustration at the lack of progress in peace talks or in a path forward.
So we'll continue to engage.
We shared some ideas and comments, which I'll take back to Washington as early as this evening in terms of calls and they're reflected and perhaps there's something to build on there.
But it was a frank conversation.
It was an important one.
We had it and we talked about some other items as well and related to the war in Ukraine.
But that was obviously the first and foremost topic that we've discussed.
And look, the President's been pretty clear.
He's disappointed and frustrated that there's not been more flexibility on the Russian side to bring about an end to this conflict.
We hope that can change.
And we're going to continue to stay involved where we see opportunities to make a difference.
kimberly adams
Now, some congressional response to the president being more open to sending weapons to Ukraine.
Again, from Senator Mitch McConnell.
He said, I'm glad that President Trump wants to resume deliveries of lethal capabilities to Ukraine.
America's policy of providing lethal support to Ukraine began during his first term and likely helped deter earlier Russian escalation.
This time, the President will need to reject calls from isolationists and restrainers within his administration to limit these deliveries to defensive weapons.
The self-indulgent policymaking of restrainers from Ukraine to AUKUS has so often required the president to clean up his staff's messes.
And the budget OMB sent to Congress does not put America on a path to peace through strength.
That is Senator Mitch McConnell.
Now, let's get to your thoughts on your confidence in President Trump's foreign policy.
We'll start with Felipe in Reading, Pennsylvania on our line for independence.
Good morning, Felipe.
Good morning.
unidentified
I don't believe there is a policy.
To say a policy, you would have to compare it to other administrations.
What the current administration is doing is unlike anybody else has ever done.
It's scatter brain, the attention to details not there.
The thought, there's not a lot of whole.
I think he's meant to be almost to a point of distraction and have his fingers in the pot, see how it can directly benefit him and his family versus anybody else.
We've seen the damage done to our own stock market and our business practices.
It's hardened relationships with long-term allies.
It's creating problems where there's no need to create problems.
And there's a weird situation.
You can't compare it to anything else.
There's never been another administration where all the same factors line up, and we got to sit back and watch and hope for the best because this is the person with his hand on the wheel.
But Congress is making moves to try to bring along back, but there's not a majority that are willing to even stand up to the band.
So we're kind of running a weird situation.
Also, here we are once again with an unfortunate tragedy and a response.
So this year we've had many, many tragedies as a result of weather.
We just had this one in the past.
We can do better.
We should do better.
And that's all I have to say.
Thank you for your time.
Have a great day.
kimberly adams
Later on in the show, we'll be hearing from Chelsea Harvey, who is a climate reporter, who will be talking about those floods in Texas.
Let's move on to Betty in Swamp Scott, Massachusetts, on our line for Democrats.
What's your confidence in President Trump's foreign policy?
unidentified
I have no confidence in President Trump.
I'm absolutely ashamed.
I have a lot of friends and family members that travel to Europe all the time on business, and they're so ashamed because people can't believe they'll never trust us again.
We were stupid enough to vote him in once, but that was like a blip on the radio radar screen, and Biden came in and made everything okay.
And then we were stupid enough to vote him in again.
I think he's an embarrassment.
I'm so ashamed of him and his regime.
I think they're all criminally insane.
And I have absolutely no confidence in Trump or anybody that has anything to do with President Trump.
kimberly adams
Betty, before I let you go, I'd like to read you something and then get your response to it.
NATO Secretary General Mark Rutt was speaking to the New York Times about the president and saying that, among other things, I'm glad I think when somebody deserves praise, that praise should be given.
And he's talking about NATO here.
And President Trump deserves all the praise because without his leadership, without him being re-elected President of the United States, the 2% this year and the 5% in 2035, this is referencing NATO defense level spendings, we would never, ever, ever have been able to achieve agreement on this.
So here you have a European leader speaking in praise of the president.
unidentified
Very good praise, this president.
He's an absolute disgrace.
I don't care if they're paying more.
The United States is a huge country.
You can get like five countries in the state of California.
Naturally, they're not paying as much as we are.
You know, the whole thing is a disgrace.
I'm really, really ashamed.
And I can't believe the people in this country voted for this man twice.
I just can't get over it.
kimberly adams
Okay, let's hear from Richard in San Diego, California, on our line for Republicans.
Good morning, Richard.
unidentified
Good morning.
Hey, I'm shocked that in California, they would call and tell you how good things are today.
kimberly adams
And what's your confidence in the president's foreign policy?
unidentified
I came here in 1988.
The foreign policy?
Oh, let me go slow for you.
I was in the foreign policy for 26 years.
But listen, I wish, I pray every day that the world could get along.
But you know what?
No matter how much I pray, no matter how much I do, no matter how much I say, you cannot relate to people that do not want to relate.
So foreign policy-wise, I say if anything happens from another country in this country, then, you know, we got to do what we got to do.
willie nelson
But I was in the military for 26 years, and I just don't understand why Democrats think that this president is so bad.
unidentified
I mean, even if he is bad, Biden was brain dead.
We dealt with that for four years.
kimberly adams
Richard, are there particular aspects of the president's foreign policy that you approve or disapprove of, of President Trump's foreign policy?
unidentified
I'm all about it.
Look, this is what you got to do.
You got to.
It's so simple.
kimberly adams
Okay.
Gregory is in Latrobe, Pennsylvania on our line for independence.
Good morning, Gregory.
unidentified
Good morning.
Yeah, I'd like to talk about some of the good policies that are I believe that Trump has finally come up with.
I am anti-Trump, but I'm not anti-good policies.
donald j trump
And I believe he's coming up with some good policies because I believe his split with Putin has changed him and has changed his attitude.
unidentified
Not him.
I don't think he can change them.
But anyway, his attitude's changed towards Ukraine and Russia.
And I believe that because coincidentally, all this stuff coming out about Jeffrey Epstein has all of a sudden changed his relationship with Russia.
Because you know Russia, if there are any tapes, pictures, whatever, if there are anything, you know the Russians have them.
He visited, his family visited Russia for 30, 40 years.
He spent 10 of those with Jeffrey Epstein.
Now, I'm sure the Russians have some KGB in that SSB secret police audio and video tapes.
kimberly adams
Where are you getting that information, Gregory?
unidentified
Exactly.
kimberly adams
Where are you getting that information?
unidentified
Oh, I've gotten that permission from a couple places.
You can check it out.
kimberly adams
Well, I want to follow up on the point that you made about the developing split between President Trump and Vladimir Putin.
He underscored his frustration with the Russian president during a meeting with cabinet officials at the White House last week.
Let's listen.
donald j trump
A lot of people are dying, and it should end.
And I don't know, we get a lot of bullshit thrown at us by Putin for you want to know the truth.
He's very nice all the time, but it turns out to be meaningless.
unidentified
Do you want to say that?
Lindsay Graham has a sanctions bill on Russia.
Do you want him to move on?
donald j trump
I'm looking at it.
Yeah, no, I'm looking at it.
The Senate is passing and passed a very, very tough sanctions.
Yeah, I'm looking at it.
unidentified
Can you sign up?
donald j trump
It's an optional bill.
It's totally at my option.
They pass it totally at my option and to terminate totally at my option.
And I'm looking at it very strongly.
kimberly adams
There was a reference in that conversation to sanctions that were being proposed in the Senate.
Here's a story in the New York Times about that: that Trump seems to be warming what Europe wants for Ukraine: new Russia sanctions.
Flattery and pressure, coupled with President Trump's growing dissatisfaction with President Vladimir Putin, have helped build momentum for new economic punishments.
And this is in recent weeks.
Some European leaders have tried a new approach in private conversations with a president who they know often responds well to flattery.
In exchanges with Mr. Trump, those leaders, including Friedrich Mertz, the German chancellor, praise the president for sending American bombers to deliver a major blow to Iran's nuclear program.
According to two European officials familiar with the program, they told Trump he could do something similar in Ukraine, not with bombs, but with a fresh batch of penalties aimed at crippling Russia's economy.
The appeals were the latest chapter in a long-standing effort to bring Mr. Trump on board with European attempts to turn the tide in Ukraine through a punishing hit on Russia's economy.
Now then, let's get back to your thoughts and your confidence in President Trump's foreign policy.
A comment we received on X from Real Donnie: Foreign policy of the Trump administration has been consistent with national security.
The border was closed off with the strike of a pen.
Islamic Republic in Iran got a check by strikes of B-2 planes, and the cartel economy got striked by tariffs.
EU tariff was a correct and just move.
Lawrence is in New York on our line for Democrats.
Good morning, Lawrence.
unidentified
Good morning.
My angle is on the tariffs and the delay of tariffs.
And I think the reason for the delay of tariffs is so that corporations can buy without the tariffs for school shopping and for Christmas this year.
So these tariff delays are going to go on until the midterms.
It's a strategy that prevents inflation from going out of control with all the tariffs.
And I'm hoping that that will change.
And the other thing is...
kimberly adams
What do you mean you're hoping that will change?
Are you hoping the tariffs will kick in?
unidentified
No, well, no, I'm hoping that that will change where he doesn't delay the tariffs so then the American people will realize how bad tariffs are.
And then the midterms, the Democrats will sleep in the office.
And the other thing is the people that comment on Joe Biden being brain dead are very, very uninformed because he was a very intelligent man.
And that's all I got to say.
Thank you.
kimberly adams
Next up is Wayne in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, on our line for independence.
Good morning, Wayne.
unidentified
Hello, how are you doing today?
I'm fine, thank you.
I would like to ask a question, right?
All right.
Donald Trump is mad at Putin for doing what he's doing in Ukraine.
But who is why he's not mad at Israel from bombing the Palestinians?
This is what I want to know.
dick gregory
And if I was Putin, right, the United States is supplying everybody in the world with weapons.
unidentified
Why would I listen to anything that the United States have to say?
Now, they're saying that Putin is not to be trusted.
America is not to be trusted.
And I've been in this world for over 70 years.
I love the United States.
I wouldn't want to be nowhere else.
But dealing with the war situation all over the world, it's a mess.
And I don't know how it's going to end.
dick gregory
But and another thing, if NATO give weapons to Ukraine, I would bomb whatever country that gave them weapons.
unidentified
This is war now.
This is all I'm talking about.
kimberly adams
Richard is in Hacienda Heights, California on our line for Republicans.
Good morning, Richard.
unidentified
Hi.
Good morning, very early here.
I just want to talk about how foreign policy for any president of the United States is tough because there's basically going to be a four-year or even possibly eight years, and then there's going to be a change.
And it's usually a change, a radical change from a Republican to a Democrat.
So the world leaders from around the world look at this and go, we don't know what we're going to get in four years from these guys.
It's going to be a totally different person.
So I think they walk into these meetings, like Rubio right now.
He's walking into these meetings, and the world leaders just go, well, okay, here's another guy, and let's see what he has to offer.
But they can't take him seriously, not really.
And it just, it troubles me that we don't have some kind of a foreign correspondence core in this country that deals with this constantly and doesn't switch so fast.
So I guess Trump's doing a good job, but I don't know.
It's a hard job to do.
kimberly adams
Richard, I want to follow up on some of these points that you made because traditionally the role of agreeing to treaties and sometimes even trade deals is a role taken on by Congress.
But in recent presidencies, Trump as well as Biden and even Obama, a lot of that work has been done by the president.
Do you think more of that work should be going back to Congress?
unidentified
I do.
Or a State Department that does nothing and doesn't change after we have to have some kind of a diplomacy department maybe where we have this setup where we deal with world leaders, especially like China, where they're going to have the same guy for 50 years.
And you deal with at least some of the same faces every four years or eight years.
I think we have, like the Brits, we have one arm tied behind our back because the people they're dealing with don't know who they're going to get next in a few years.
So they just have to get done, you know.
And we have so much to do.
We could do so much more, but we're not going to get it done when people don't trust us.
kimberly adams
Richard, one more thing I want to ask you about before I let you go is you talked about needing the same faces.
There's been a lot of concerns about career diplomats leaving the State Department.
Here's an article about that from CBS News.
The State Department enacts widespread layoffs, cutting 1,353 staff as part of a reorganization.
It seeks to cut the size of its workforce by about 15% as part of the Trump administration's sweeping plans to reorganize the department.
The voluntary staff reductions include 1,107 civil service and 246 Foreign Service employees, according to a notice sent to State Department employees Friday that was obtained by CBS News.
What do you think of these cuts in line with what you were saying about needing the same people over time?
unidentified
I'm pretty conservative, and I like that we're going to cut and regroup maybe.
But I just feel bad for the NATO leaders in the other NATO countries.
They're probably sitting there going, well, now what are we going to get out of Washington?
But what do I think of these cuts?
Think that we have way too many government jobs.
I've known that for years.
I've studied economics my whole life and worked, and I just know that there's too many people who are not doing anything in these office, in these jobs.
Not to say that they don't work hard, but I don't think a lot's getting done.
So I think it was very much time to take some of these jobs, throw them away, and then hire them back.
But not everybody's going to be hired back.
And I think as far as the State Department, maybe we should have a whole department just that just deals with foreign policy decisions and that the president has to adhere to.
There's got to be a way to do this other than the way it's being done now because no world leader can trust what's coming out of America because in four years, they just might flip-flop.
And they do.
We do flip-flop, depending on who's in office, especially when it comes to ecology.
But it's too important of a decision to be made by some guy who just got into the office and in four years might not be there.
Okay.
kimberly adams
Let's move on to Patrick in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, on our line for Democrats.
Good morning, Patrick.
unidentified
Good morning.
I am a registered Democrat, but I crossed over and voted for Donald Trump.
He's doing an absolutely brilliant job.
He has a purview of experts within the infrastructure that surround him, especially when it comes to foreign policy.
It is literally like the gold standard of individuals who have their finger on the pulse of not just the national aspects of foreign policy, but on the technological aspects of foreign policy.
And when you said that the president is going to be eliminating individuals, groups of individuals within the infrastructure of the State Department, it's about time.
Because what's happened is the State Department wasn't a State Department.
It was an ideological cabal.
It was a control mechanism to ensure this perverse and evil woke ideology that was being exported throughout the world.
I'm elated that Rubio is going to be cleaning house in there.
It's absolutely necessary when you look at the trajectory of where we are going.
You know, I'm thinking about the fact the possibility of Harris actually winning.
It literally makes the hand, the hair stands up on my arm when I think about the fact that she may have been president of the United States of America in direct contrast on where we are.
So when you look at our country from a technological perspective, I'm an intellectual property specialist.
You have the robotic superwave coming literally everywhere in the world.
It's going to transform the planet.
And what we must do technologically is demand that artificial intelligence be able to evolve organically without these ridiculous interferences, without these technological structures that they're implanting and trying to game AI and turn it into a mechanism of control and governance.
kimberly adams
Okay.
Ingrid is in Montrose, Colorado on our line for independence.
Good morning, Ingrid.
unidentified
Yes.
Hi, good morning.
Can you hear me?
Okay.
kimberly adams
Yes, I can.
unidentified
Okay.
I have one comment about the gentleman, well, I'm calling gentlemen, the guy a few callers back that said they ought to bomb all the countries that are given weapons to Ukraine.
You have no idea how important Ukraine is.
Because the next thing is Poland, if he gets through Ukraine and Poland, he's in the EU.
America will no longer have any allies in the Western world.
If that happens.
So realize before you open your mouth what's coming out of it and what falsehoods you spread.
kimberly adams
And Ingrid, what are your thoughts on President Trump's foreign policy?
unidentified
Well, he's done some good, and he's done some offensive stuff during his first term.
He completely ignored Angela Merkel when she was sitting next to him, refusing to shake her hand.
I grew up in Germany, so but again, there's things that he's done that I agree with.
I'm definitely not a Trumper, but the whole idea of Russia succeeding in any way, shape, or form is very, very threatening.
So, yes.
kimberly adams
Okay.
At a White House cabinet meeting on Tuesday, U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio outlined some of the global peace breakthroughs and accomplishments that this administration is claiming thus far in Trump's second term.
Let's listen.
marco rubio
Well, it's just going through a list here, Mr. President.
And I think the Vice President's pointed out to the great team you have, and all these achievements that have happened domestically.
But you think about it, under your leadership, we prevented and ended a war between India and Pakistan.
NATO's now at 5% for the first time ever, the highest numbers ever.
A peace deal between the Democratic Republic of Congo and Rwanda.
A 12-day war that ended with an American operation that we're the only country in the world that could have done.
Hopefully pretty soon a peace deal between Azerbaijan and Armenia.
The entire Middle East and the infrastructure of it has the potential now to change because of Syria and Lebanon.
And it hasn't even been six months.
It hasn't even been six months.
So it's a straight testament to your leadership in this.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
And you've done a fantastic job.
kimberly adams
Let's get back to your calls with your thoughts and your confidence in President Trump's foreign policy.
James is in Buffalo, Kentucky on our line for Republicans.
Good morning, James.
unidentified
Oh, I love your show.
I haven't seen it in a while.
I've been doing some different things, but I just want to say that Trump is doing an extremely good job in foreign policy, domestic.
If it wasn't for Biden and him being incompetent and not knowing what he was doing, we wouldn't be in all these problems that we're in.
He started the war in Russia and Ukraine.
He let Iran get close to the nuclear bomb.
And then a whole time he's sitting there trying like, and then if that woman of his would have got in there, she would have just messed it all up even worse.
So thank God that we've got somebody like that that's controlling world affairs, and he knows what he's doing.
Biden and Sidekick were both jokes.
And they were nothing but a bunch of jokes.
And thank God that we've getting our country back to where it needs to be at.
kimberly adams
Okay.
A message that we've received via text from Dave in Charlotte, North Carolina says, if he finally makes Putin withdraw from Ukraine and pay damages, he'll grow in my estimation.
Talking about President Trump there in regards to the ongoing war in Ukraine.
Anna is in Phillipsburg, Kansas on our line for Democrats.
Good morning, Anna.
unidentified
Good morning.
The only thing I have to say.
Good morning.
kimberly adams
Good morning.
Go ahead.
unidentified
If sanctions will cripple Russia's economy, then we should impose the sanctions.
Also, on the midterms, if the midterms turn blue, then I think we have more control over our government.
It's too imbalanced right now.
As far as Mr. 26 years calling President Biden brain dead, shame on you.
kimberly adams
All right.
unidentified
I have nothing nice to say about Trump, and I have nothing bad to say about him.
But I think they should impose the sanctions, cripple their economy, and stop this war.
All right.
Thank you.
kimberly adams
Jim is in Mart, Texas on our line for independence.
Good morning, Jim.
unidentified
Yeah.
I think I agree with that lady a while ago that called in.
She used to be a Democrat, and now she's a Republican and from Pennsylvania.
If Kamala Harris had got in there, we've been in so much horrible.
We've been in serious trouble.
Trump is doing an excellent, excellent job.
He's peace truth strength.
If you just look at the people that voted for Trump, the Christian coalition, the United States Navy, the United States Air Force, all the military, the United States Coast Guard, the Firefighters Union, everybody that's good.
Look who voted for people for Kamala.
Kamala's a good person, but look who voted for.
Look what's happening to the Democratic Party.
That picture will elect a communist.
kimberly adams
Jim, I wonder if we can keep it to foreign policy.
Are there particular elements of President Trump's foreign policy that you like more than others?
unidentified
Well, the whole thing, the Israel policy, the Iran, what he did to Iran, the bombing of Iran, I mean, everything.
Just doing an excellent job.
kimberly adams
All right.
Well, let's hear from Dorothy in Burlington, North Carolina on our line for Democrats.
Good morning, Dorothy.
unidentified
I am looking at Trump.
kimberly adams
Can you please turn down the volume on your TV, Dorothy, and then go ahead with your comment?
unidentified
Everything.
It's doing an excellent job.
Yes, I was.
I was thinking about his policy.
I mean, the man is evil, evil.
Trump is so evil.
I don't understand what's happening to the Republican Party.
kimberly adams
Are there particular components of President Trump's foreign policy that you think are evil?
And I need you to turn down the volume on your TV, Dorothy.
unidentified
He is evil.
kimberly adams
Okay.
Let's go ahead and hear from Rhonda in Johnstown, Pennsylvania on our line for independence.
unidentified
Good morning, Rhonda.
Yes, I was just calling in about the state workers, the federal workers, how everybody, like mostly Democrats, are complaining they're losing their jobs.
But at the same time, they are saying that we're interfering, you know, with other people's cultures and they hate America.
It's mostly Democrats, and they're saying they hate America because we're always intruding, and then we're the ones that cause the problems in the other countries, but yet they want a big State Department and a foreign, you know.
So I'm just confused about that.
So that's why I was calling.
It seems kind of double standard.
kimberly adams
Are you saying the Democrats are saying they hate America or the country is receiving?
unidentified
Yeah, a lot of the Democrats are saying that they hate America because like we start trouble in other countries and then they want to use soft power over there.
And then at the same time, they want all these foreign soft power jobs, but yet they want us to stay out of other people's foreign affairs.
So I'm just confused on that.
Okay.
kimberly adams
Another message we received via text comes from Barb in Longrove, Illinois, who says, I have confidence in Trump's foreign policy at this time.
Whether it was necessary military strikes on Iranian nuclear sites or sending more offensive weapons to Ukraine, I feel that he is acting in the best interests of our country.
John is in Tignall, Georgia, on our line for Democrats.
Good morning, John.
And can you turn down the volume on your TV, John?
Then go ahead with your comment.
unidentified
Just a man.
Let me see.
If I can get it straight here.
We're sending more offenses.
Okay.
Okay, now, right?
I just want to make a comment about Trump.
kimberly adams
John, how are you able to tell someone's race based on them calling?
unidentified
Okay, now I'm ready.
Oh, divorce.
kimberly adams
And you still need to turn down the volume on your TV.
unidentified
Divorce.
kimberly adams
All right, we're still getting that feedback.
Let's hear from Daryl in Warren, Michigan on our line for independence.
Good morning, Daryl.
unidentified
Hello.
Glad to talk to you.
I'm a union man, and I totally believe that the Trump care policy is actually a good idea.
I don't know how it's going to work out, but I've been in General Motors Assembly line, and they closed all seven of the plants I worked at.
And I am a Reagan Democrat.
I am one of the original people that believed in that.
I've seen it and I've heard it and I've lived it.
So, I mean, I don't really know how to make this right, but it's a good idea what's happening, especially Japan and South Korea, because I work seven GM plants that close all seven.
Japan doesn't even have a word for pickup truck.
So I'd just be curious how we deal with this.
kimberly adams
Next up is Milton in Baltimore, Maryland, on our line for Democrats.
Good morning, Milton.
unidentified
All right.
Good morning.
I want to be able to voice my complaint that I have with C-SPAN without having you become short with me as you do with all other Democrats who call with complaints.
Now, mind you, you let Republicans go on and on complaining about Democrats.
But when Democrats call and have a complaint about the other side, you're very short with them.
You put them on a short leaf and you want them to stick to the topic.
I wish you would become fair about that, okay?
Now, my complaint is this.
When people call in And they're talking about the, supposed to talk about foreign policy, which, in my opinion, is Trump isn't supporting Ukraine.
They're letting Europe buy weapons for Ukraine.
Why can't they just go ahead and sell the weapons directly to Ukraine?
Because Trump always chickens out.
He's not trying to help Ukraine.
He's trying to make it look like he's going to help them by going to a roundabout way.
But I want to say this, and this is my main point for calling: that when Republicans call there and talk about woke and wanting to cut government jobs, that is a roundabout way of saying they believe too many black folks are working in the government.
DEI, again, too many black folks are working in an industry.
And that's what I was saying.
And C-SPAN, you let it go by and go on and on and on.
And I wish you would stop it.
Thank you very much.
kimberly adams
California Representative Adam Smith was also criticizing President Trump's foreign policy as well as values during a recent appearance on our program.
Let's listen.
adam schiff
Across administrations and decades, America has been a symbol of stability for the globe, a trusted partner, a champion of freedom and democracy.
We have stood up to evil empires and championed the cause of liberty.
And though we have made more than our share of mistakes in trying to rebuild other nations in our image, we have strived to achieve a foreign policy consistent with our values.
Now, in just the first few months, so much of that legacy has been betrayed.
So many of our alliances have been degraded.
So much of our standing in the world has been made small.
So many of our friends have become estranged.
Our treaty partners unsure of whether they can count on us in a pinch.
Donald Trump likes to talk about peace through strength.
He likes to think that bullying our friends or extorting a price for our security guarantees is what makes us strong.
But he is wrong.
He trashes our relationships with our friends.
He belittles the Canadians and the British who fought and died alongside American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.
He denigrates Ukrainians and their brave president who fight nobly in the defense of their democracy and their sovereignty.
And he insists on Ukraine paying tribute in the form of mineral rights to secure his support.
He flatters and fawns over the Kremlin dictator, at least he did, until even Trump could see that he was being made to play the fool by a mass murderer who did not want peace, only further mayhem.
And who can say how long Trump's new resolve against Putin will last before it is overtaken by caprice or self-interest?
The only true constant of Trump's foreign policy has been that the United States will be there for you if and only if it is pleasing to the president, if you flatter him, if you bow and scrape before him, or if there is something in it for him, personally, like a $400 million aircraft or a multi-billion dollar crypto deal for his family.
He has made it plain that American foreign policy is part protection racket and part just racket.
All of this means that America is less safe and secure with fewer friends we can rely upon out of any sense of shared sacrifice or values.
kimberly adams
That was California Senator Adam Schiff speaking on the Senate floor.
Let's go to Terry in Pompano Beach, Florida on our line for Democrats.
Good morning, Terry.
unidentified
Yes.
If you really notice the Gaza.
kimberly adams
Can you please turn down the volume on your TV, Terry?
unidentified
Yes.
If you really notice the war in Gaza, I never seen anyone shooting at the Israel.
I always see the Israel shooting at someone else.
And the same thing with Ukraine.
You see Russia shooting at the Ukrainians, but you never see that in Gaza.
kimberly adams
Terry, we still need you to turn down the volume on your television all the way down, and then please continue.
unidentified
Well, I said the issue in Gaza, you never see anyone shooting at the Israelis.
You always see Israelis shooting at and doing all the bombing.
I don't understand what's going on there as far as them controlling Gaza.
Gaza's always been there as Palestine.
And now they say, oh, well, there's no Palestine.
Yeah, Gaza is Palestine.
Those people have always been there.
In 1942, Israeli was given that land.
So it doesn't really belong to them.
That's all I have to say.
kimberly adams
Next up is Jeffrey in Warren, Michigan on our line for Republicans.
Good morning, Jeffrey.
unidentified
Good morning.
I just wanted to make a comment.
You just had a show the click about Adler Schiff and his speech.
And he made a statement there where other countries should be made in our image.
Why should other countries be made in our image?
It's like we're trying to rebuild the whole world.
Let their culture be their own culture.
That's all I have to say.
All right.
kimberly adams
Next up is Ben in Owings Mills, Maryland on our line for independence.
Good morning, Ben.
unidentified
Good morning, Kimberly.
In terms of, I guess we were talking about the foreign policy, Donald Trump's foreign policy.
I really don't believe we really have a foreign policy, so to speak.
It's been the only consistency, it's been inconsistency on several fronts.
If you look economically, and I know this is your field of expertise, but I don't think we felt the residual effect of the tariffs, but I think it's on the horizon.
When you look at some of the reports of imports and things coming to the country, a lot of goods are going to be short, and you'll soon see that.
And some of our retail establishments will start seeing shortages of products.
I don't believe that there are very few countries on this planet that can really afford American-built high-item products.
So even in America, it's becoming unaffordable to even for Americans to buy some of these, you know, some of the bigger bigger ticket items.
So in terms of the foreign policy as it relates to our relationship with other countries, I mean, he just totally disrespects Canada and Mexico.
Want to make them the 51st state or whatever.
I mean, just total disrespect of our neighbors, renaming the Gulf of Mexico.
And now if you look at Russia, he was totally played like a fiddle by Putin.
He's flip-flopped on that, as well as he hopped on the Israeli bandwagon after he saw a successful mission that Israel had.
Then he jumped in on the back end of that.
It's been very inconsistent.
It's showing, it's sending mixed signals out to a lot of countries who are now looking at countries like China and BRICS for protection.
And I think before it's all over, you know, the country's going to be really, we're going to take a real hit and respect throughout the world.
kimberly adams
All right.
Next up is Janet in Portsmouth, Ohio on our line for Democrats.
Good morning, Janet.
unidentified
I think we do think foreign policy is Canada and Mexico, who we have supported all these years and friends to us.
They're friends.
They're our neighbors.
And I don't care how many people as foreign policy collecting all of these young men, women, children, and putting them in prison.
You can call them prisons all you want, but to me, they're a concentration camp.
They're concentrating, shipping them to other people, taking them clear across the ocean, putting them in another world.
What kind of neighbor is that?
What kind of neighbor are we?
kimberly adams
Stephen is in Lawrence, Kansas, on our line for independence.
Good morning, Stephen.
unidentified
Good morning.
Yes, I'm listening to a lot of people from here, come there.
A lot of people don't know what they're talking about, unfortunately.
You got to dig into the real mate of the matter.
Look at what this president has done.
I don't think there was any other president that had the guts to walk across the line in Korea into the enemy's, how should you say, domain.
He walked across there.
I give that president a lot of guts.
All right.
Now, as far as not talking to Merkel, Merkel, she destroyed Germany.
Okay.
I am American Abermein Fauntegebal from Deutschland.
But my father was born in Germany.
She destroyed Germany by having 800,000 of these people coming over there, and they ended up raping women in order to make their religion profound in Germany.
No, his foreign policy.
kimberly adams
Where are you seeing evidence of that, Lawrence?
What do you mean?
Excuse me.
Stephen, where did you see that information?
unidentified
What about the raping and all that?
Okay, after that big turn when everybody started moving.
Germany was the first to bring in 800,000 of the Arabs, okay, from the mess that was going on over there.
Then Sweden, then Norway.
And that violent crime increased by almost 200%.
I read that on in the that's going back when Merkel was still president, going back when he was first term.
And this is when all that happened.
kimberly adams
And what's your confidence in President Trump's foreign policy this term?
unidentified
My confidence in, well, first of all, we got a definite sicko regime going on in Iran, and they need to know what their problem is.
Their problem is their threats, they need to stop that.
We're trying to get a peaceful world coalition going here together with everybody.
And you can't just point the finger at the Jews in Israel.
They went through a terrible holocaust in Germany.
And I'm not, and I'm German descent, and I'm not proud of it.
I mean, you know, what they did after World War I, the German bureaucracy and bankers, they destroyed the German economy.
kimberly adams
And are there particular policies of President Trump's in this term that you're either in favor or opposed to?
unidentified
That's a tough question.
So far, you got a businessman doing the right thing on our part as far as what's going on with the sanctions and all that, because America's just been shelling out, shelling out.
Everybody is trying to, who's been, I'm not happy with both sides of the fence.
Okay.
kimberly adams
Let's hear from Herman in Dallas, Texas on our line for Democrats.
Good morning, Herman.
unidentified
Good morning.
I've been listening to you for a while, and it's really depressing.
You know, the rooms come on, and man, you know, but no, I'm just, I don't like it, foreign policy or any policy because, you know, this is a person who at an economic conference thought that was too boring and thought it was better to go, you know, run home and drop 2,000-pound bombs on people.
That's, you know, but that's because he's not a diplomat and he's not a statesman.
You know, he's just a kid in the candy store, the drunk guy in the bar.
You know, if I was a president, you know what I would do.
And, you know, that's just not the way we should be running our country.
But we're just going to have to hope that we can, you know, overcome this bad policy that we're going to have for the next four years and get rid of this, you know, and get people back to what Americans really stand for.
kimberly adams
All right, Herman, make sure to change the batteries on your fire alarm there.
Patricia is in Yucca Valley, California on our line for Republicans.
Good morning, Patricia.
unidentified
Good morning.
I have very much confidence in this president.
I've been a Republican since I was 15 years old.
And I wanted to just tell you that you are adorable.
I watch you every Sunday.
So thank you very much.
And thank you for being the host on C-SPAN.
Thank you.
kimberly adams
Thank you.
Let's hear from Carolyn in Charlotte, North Carolina on our line for Democrats.
Good morning, Carolyn.
unidentified
Yes, good morning, C-SPAN.
I have a comment.
I would like to say that I think that Donald Trump is just an inept president.
He does not know what he's doing.
He's in the most powerful seat in the world, and he's acting like a kid.
I'm signing on with the guy last time in the candy store.
He has no foreign policy.
I remember back in 2016, he said he would give Russia to Ukraine.
I mean, Ukraine to Russia.
And so after that, Putin had it on his mind.
So with the interference, trying to get him elected, Putin really wanted him elected.
And Putin did not attack Ukraine until Joe Biden got in it.
So I don't know how people are saying that Joe Biden caused that.
And as far as Israel and Palestine, he has no foreign policy.
He has nothing going on here.
He's tariffing here.
He does not know what he's doing.
And he is a really good failed businessman based on his history.
And I would say this, what type of president would divide this country?
He stood on that podium in Iowa and said he hated Democrats.
So a president hates his own citizens.
Yeah, he's a nut in the candy store.
And people, please turn your volume down on your TV when you call in the C-SPAN.
Thank you so much.
kimberly adams
Rebecca is in Fort Smith, Arkansas on our line for Republicans.
Good morning, Rebecca.
unidentified
Good morning.
I have confidence in Trump.
I think he's doing a great job.
You know, if Kamala had been in there, we would be in such a mess right now.
But I think he's doing a great job.
He knows what he's doing.
We're in better shape now than we've been in a long time.
We need Israel.
We need to take him.
kimberly adams
Rebecca, we're having a difficult time hearing you.
You sound a little muffled.
Oh, we've lost you there, Rebecca.
Let's hear from Michael in Florida on our line for Democrats.
Good morning, Michael.
unidentified
Good morning.
How are you?
Fine, thank you.
I don't think he's doing a good job at all.
I think the foreign policy, our name is being crashed all over the world.
I mean, Americans can't go anywhere without being ridiculed by what's going on in this country, what's happening with our allies.
I don't know if we'll have any allies left if we don't get them out of there soon, because I don't think we will.
We'll have no one to stand with us.
We'll be standing alone.
And he thinks we're the greatest country, which we are.
But we need our allies all around the world.
We need them.
They protect our interests and protect our borders here at home.
We need those allies.
And he's not doing a good job at all at that.
All right.
kimberly adams
Maureen is in Mashpee, Massachusetts on our line for Republicans.
Good morning, Maureen.
unidentified
Hey, good morning, Kimberly.
Kimberly, I just wanted to go back to the caller from Kansas who mentioned some sexual assaults upon women in Germany at the hands of mostly migrants.
And if you just go online and you just plug in assaults in Germany at the hands of migrants, you'll find multiple articles.
You know, you just questioned him like he didn't know what he was talking about.
So, and I find that Ceaseman does that with many Republicans, where they allow Democrats to call Donald Trump all kinds of awful names.
But God forbid you say anything about a Democrat and the hand goes on the button or you accuse them of not checking their facts.
And I just wanted to say, you know, you like even made faces at that man that called from Kansas.
And I was just going to let you go and just ask that you just please, you know, before you question somebody, maybe you should like just check the information yourself.
kimberly adams
Before I let you go, did you have any thoughts on President Trump's foreign policy this term?
Oh, never mind.
Kathy is in Petaluma, California on our line for Democrats.
Good morning, Kathy.
And we lost Kathy.
Let's have Linda in Hazelhurst, Mississippi on our line for Democrats.
Good morning, Kathy.
Or excuse me, good morning, Linda.
unidentified
Good morning.
kimberly adams
What's your confidence in President Trump's foreign policy?
unidentified
Zero.
I think he's an absolute idiot.
He's a sociopathic, narcissistic liar.
Anybody that lies that much shouldn't be a ditch digger, let alone President of the United States.
You can't believe a word he says.
And I'm just so proud of Rose O'Donnell, the one person that has good sense to stand up to him.
If the Democrats had that much guts, we wouldn't be in this situation.
kimberly adams
Okay.
We have a comment from X from Ellerby who says, President Trump has better foreign policies than any in decades.
All countries of the world don't all agree with the U.S., but all countries respect the strength and resolve of the United States.
Peace through strength has always been the answer.
Glenn is in Frederick, Maryland on our line for independence.
Good morning, Glenn.
unidentified
Hello?
kimberly adams
Yes.
What's your confidence in President Trump's foreign policy?
unidentified
Yeah, well, I really just wanted to make the observation that Trump is picking up the pieces.
Over the last 40 years, I mean, what were the promises given to Gorbachev by Baker and Bush and Maggie Thatcher and Midaron when Germany combines, when the war went down?
I mean, the truth of the matter is that they were not going to go further than Germany, but they crept all the way up to Russia's front doorstep.
So no wonder we've got a problem.
Thank you.
kimberly adams
All right.
Nancy is in Stratford, Connecticut on our line for Democrats.
Good morning, Nancy.
Oh, excuse me.
We actually went to Anthony in Detroit.
Good morning, Anthony.
Also on our line for Democrats.
unidentified
That was really.
Hi.
Good morning, Kimberly.
That was really fast.
I just wanted to make a comment.
Go ahead.
The Republican people are not Republicans.
Those are co-followers.
And they sound so crazy.
kimberly adams
What's your confidence in President Trump's foreign policy?
unidentified
What foreign policy is terrible?
He's a clown.
He is really making a mockery of foreign policy.
He has none.
All he does is start fires and then go back and try to put them out.
And then they're talking about actually nominating this guy for a Nobel Peace Prize.
Listen, these people are willful idiots.
And Donald Trump knows it.
He knows that these people, he doesn't care about, he doesn't care about America, let alone the people that voted him into office.
And they really sound crazy.
They really do.
God bless you.
kimberly adams
Edward is in Arkansas.
Good morning, Edward, on our line for Republicans.
And make sure you turn down the volume on your TV, please, Edward.
unidentified
Hello?
Yes.
kimberly adams
Hi there, Edward.
What's your confidence in President Trump's foreign policy?
unidentified
His foreign policy has gotten America to where it is a strong power again.
People listen to what the other leaders listen to what he has to say now instead of just pushing all of their asking for help and everything, just giving it out to them and all.
He's making them stand up for what they're believing in, and he's backing people.
He's not trying to cause more wars.
He's trying to get them to stop the crazy killing and just it's just outrageous the way people are killing each other.
Granted, he's not the perfect president.
I'm not going to sit here and say that.
He has his falls.
But the foreign policies of others that have come before him recently have just allowed everybody to walk over the United States, the tariff things and everything.
We didn't have to pay as much, you know, for stuff at the grocery store.
Granted, it has went up some, and it's going to.
But it takes time for these tariffs to pay off in the long run, and they will.
We've got our own energy again, so we don't have to rely on someone else to get it over here and everything go up crazy.
Gas prices haven't went up that much.
The only place gas prices went up is California, and we really don't care about it anyway.
So, thank you.
kimberly adams
Next up is Carlton in Meneti, California on our line for Democrats.
Good morning, Carlton.
unidentified
Good morning.
Thank you for taking my call.
You know, I watch C-SPAN every day, and I'm astounded at the people that call in at the level of ignorance.
They really need to travel around the world and get a dose of reality.
You know, we are not doing that good here at all.
We've got the most chaotic president.
His foreign policy is like a bunch of kids in high school.
They're the most ill-equipped bunch of people.
I served 22 years in the United States Air Force.
I worked for DOD for another 22.
And I've never seen anything as ill-managed as I'm seeing now.
You know, this is not a for-profit government.
It's not a for-profit business.
It's here to take care of the people, the citizens.
And this guy treats it like it's a business.
It's not a business.
It's not here to make profit.
It's here to take the taxes, revenue that comes in and take care of what the country needs.
Okay?
And all they're doing is doing away with regulations and to make business people make more money.
And it's not coming back to the citizens who do the work.
And all these people that call in every day, he's doing a great job.
They think they're going to be the rich guy one day.
You're never going to be that guy.
Never.
You have a good day.
kimberly adams
Jim is in Ana Cortez, Washington on our line for independence.
Good morning, Jim.
unidentified
Yes, good morning.
Yeah, Kimberly, you and everybody else on Washington Journal does an excellent job.
Okay, I just want to say that.
And also, in regard to President Trump's foreign policy, it's not so much his policy that I have an objection to.
It's his attitude toward other countries.
Prime example is, of course, the tariffs.
I mean, that should never have happened.
And when he says things like he wants to buy Greenland, his overall attitude is arrogant, and I think it's alienating a lot of our allies.
That's all I want to say.
kimberly adams
Next up is Eugene in Anderson, South Carolina on our line for Democrats.
Good morning, Eugene.
unidentified
Yes.
louie gohmert
I think the president, he don't think about anybody but himself.
unidentified
He's not thinking about the American peoples.
It is very hard for him to make a good decision for the American peoples.
kimberly adams
Okay.
Well, thank you to everyone who called in this hour on your confidence in President Trump's foreign policy.
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kimberly adams
Welcome back for our political roundtable this week.
I am joined first by Adam Goodman, who is a Republican strategist and the host of the podcast 13th and Park.
Welcome back to Washington Journal.
adam goodman
Great to be with you again, Kim.
kimberly adams
And joining us remotely is former Democratic Congressman Jim Davis.
Thank you so much for joining us as well.
unidentified
Good to be with you this morning.
kimberly adams
So I'll start with you, Jim.
What would you say was your top political moment of the week?
unidentified
Well, I'm a Floridian.
I'm here in Tampa today across from the Bay.
So I'm watching very carefully, as many folks are, what happened at Texas and the painful lessons to be learned.
And I think it's very important, not just to Florida, but to the country, that we understand what went wrong and what we can do better.
The weather's becoming more extreme and uncertain, and lives are at stake, as tragically was the case in Texas.
And so I think it's very important that we have a painfully objective analysis of what occurred and how we can do better as we enter hurricane season and face natural disasters around the country.
kimberly adams
I certainly want to come back to that later in the conversation.
But Adam, what about you?
What would you say was your top political moment this week?
adam goodman
Well, first let me say as a Floridian as well, I totally agree with Jim.
We got to get disaster response right.
I mean, we should be incredibly good at it, right?
And I don't think we're where we need to be yet.
And the whole talk about FEMA, I know we're going to talk about this later.
You know, it's a worthy discussion to have.
We have all the tools to be absolutely good, if not great, at any disaster or crisis response.
We should be there.
Now, for the story of the week, I think the president would probably say the same.
Benjamin Netanyahu, when he comes in, he's with the president, and he says, you know, he's now nominating President Donald Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize, which is the second time it's been mentioned in recent times.
Pakistan not long ago said the same.
Circle on your calendar roughly the date October 10th, because that's when the Dobell Committee is going to make decisions on prizes for the coming year.
I guarantee you that this president has his eye very much focused on that time on the calendar.
kimberly adams
Okay.
Speaking of the president, we can't have this discussion without marking that it's been a year.
Today is the year anniversary of the assassination attempt on President Trump's life in Butler, Pennsylvania.
I mean, looking back now, I wonder how you see how important that moment was in the presidential campaign, and what do you think of how the president is still talking about this, Adam?
adam goodman
The ultimate turning point, right?
There's always some event that's unplanned, that happens in campaigns, that usually sets the trajectory, the ultimate trajectory of what happens in the fall.
That's what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania, totally unscripted.
I think another thing happened there, though, beyond the near miss.
I think President Trump dealt for the first time, perhaps, in a long time, with his own mortality.
And I think that has changed the way he's approached this presidency.
Not only did he learn a lot, I think, for the first time around, I think that bullet really woke him up to how precious and fragile life is.
And I think it's one of the reasons why he's moving with such speed to make the changes he's promised.
kimberly adams
Jim, what's your take on the one-year anniversary of a moment that really did change the course of that campaign?
unidentified
I agree with Adam.
It was pivotable.
I think folks want a leader with a backbone.
And I think the president showed that that day.
I also think he is masterful at exploiting opportunities like that and using imagery.
I also have to add that I think afterwards he made some comments.
You have to be very careful about taking his words at face value, that he was a different person and would work harder and better to bring our country together.
I think, unfortunately, the opposite has been true.
So I think there was some hope it would change him for the better in that way.
It did not.
This is a much worse situation than Trump won.
But you do need to give him credit for his courage in the face of the assassination.
kimberly adams
The Secret Service put out a press release marking the one-year update following the attempted assassination on President Trump, saying, as we approach the one-year anniversary, this was out just a few days before, the July 13th attack was nothing short of a tragedy, one felt not only by those in Butler that day, but around the world.
It also represents an operational failure that the Secret Service will carry as a reminder of the critical importance of its zero-fail mission and the need for continuous improvement.
As is well documented in both internal and external reports, breakdowns in communication, technological issues, and human failure, among other contributing factors, led to the events of July 13th.
Today, with the support of the United States Congress and President Trump, the agency is laser focused on ensuring that those we are sworn to protect, the public, and the dedicated men and women of the Secret Service, are never let down again.
Adam, what do you think of the changes that have been made since this attack?
adam goodman
Well, sometimes it takes something almost horrific to wake people up to create the impetus for change.
And I think that that certainly happened in Butler, Pennsylvania that day, and there have been changes.
And it wasn't just in Butler.
As you remember, not long after that, in Florida, there was a potential stalker with armed on a golf course very close to where the president was playing golf at one point.
What I worry about most, and I think Jim would agree with me on this, is everyone in public life right now had a wake-up call in Butler, Pennsylvania.
And we've seen subsequent to that what happened in Minnesota.
I think that this country has to take that seriously.
And maybe this sounds a little more radical.
I think we need to revisit the idea of passing a law that says that anyone that tries to threaten anyone who is in public life with a gun, with public office.
In public office, I'm sorry.
With a gun, that that should be dealt with almost as an act of treason.
I mean, I think if unless we take this bloody serious, and we've been that way, you know, Kim, with first responders, people that go after or kill police officers, we should do the same for people who are in elective office.
I don't care what party they are, because if they don't feel safe and they are not safe, I think this country has a lot to answer for.
kimberly adams
Jim, your thoughts on that idea as well as the increasing political violence we've seen in the targeting of public officials since that assassination attempt.
unidentified
It is a problem.
The rhetoric is remarkably coarse, but it is a felony to assault a federal official.
And I think the issue is more enforcement.
And Lord knows we need our best and brightest to suit up to serve right now.
And the last thing we need to do is discourage them.
But I want to make one other point about the Secret Service.
It is incredibly important to our democracy that our leaders are accessible to the public.
And one of the problems I encountered with foreign leaders when I served is they're terribly cloistered.
They're really detached from reality, what's going on.
So the Secret Service is critical to striking this balance, that we protect our officials, starting with the president, but we also make them accessible so people can see and hear their leaders.
And most importantly, our leaders can have touch with regular folks.
When you're working in Washington, you're in the White House, it is very easy to lose touch.
kimberly adams
Jim, I want to stay with you to circle back to the issue that you brought up at the beginning of our segment, the floods in Texas.
President Trump visited Texas on Friday and received a briefing about that tragic flooding, which we now know has killed well over 100 people.
There have been a lot of questions raised about his cuts at the National Weather Service, his proposal to eliminate FEMA, and the president's views about these agencies in general in light of the disasters.
What's your take on this moment and how it relates to sort of some of the changes that have been happening in the federal government?
unidentified
It's a painful lesson.
When you're going to cut funding for essential services, you need to think through the implications, which they did not.
These cuts were made in a hasty fashion by folks who came in using information technology and algorithms without regard to the real-life impact.
And now we're starting to see the real-life impact.
How much did that affect the decision?
Don't know.
Clearly, it did.
Clearly, we need to do better.
We need to do smarter.
FEMA is a very important agency.
They are experts in emergency management.
Florida, Texas, the Carolinas have seen the benefits of that.
You don't play around with these changes.
You need to think through in advance.
Can FEMA do a better job?
Absolutely.
Can we improve the relationship between local governments, governors, and the federal government?
We can, but you do it surgically.
And so I think that what happened in Texas is a painful reminder that we need to be thoughtful, whether it's public health issues or emergency management, we make decisions.
kimberly adams
But Adam, we've heard from some Trump administration officials that the responses to Texas is actually the framework of what they'd like to see moving forward.
adam goodman
What do you think?
I think that's wishful thinking.
I think there's a need for us.
Obviously, this administration, Kim, is reexamining everything, FEMA being one of them.
You ask a lot of people that have gone through horrific experiences and had to depend on FEMA after the storm had passed and all the horror stories and all the delays of people that were victimized in a way all over again.
I think that's the intention of this administration.
And you saw even local officials.
There was no like sweeping this under the rug.
They said, look, this was a horrible failure on all sorts of fronts.
We're going to figure out what happened and we're going to make sure as best we can that it doesn't happen again.
And I think there's an attitude also in this administration that it's not always top-down that is best in terms of disaster response.
It really has to begin with locals on bottom-up, going bottom-up.
And I think that's the approach this administration is going to take moving forward.
kimberly adams
And to be clear, the comments I was referencing in terms of the administration saying that this is the model was this idea of the bottom-up approach of the state responding first and then the federal government.
But do you think that that is an effective model for responding to these increasing disasters moving forward?
adam goodman
I appreciate the question.
It's the right question.
And you could ask that question about everything this administration is doing.
They are fundamentally changing, Kim, the way we do business on every front.
They're challenging assumptions, but the idea that we can do it better and hopefully for less in terms of government spending moving forward, this is just one of the many things that they're kind of putting under the microscope.
And change is a scary thing.
It really is.
When people have to, you know, they're in a habit of doing things, they're in a habit of expecting certain things.
And those things change, that is something that can create trepidation and fear.
But if we do not change the trajectory we're on, which the American people decidedly said in the elections of 24 we want, if we don't do that, we'll get more of the same.
kimberly adams
I'd like to shift over to foreign policy now and go back to you, Jim, because President Trump has soured recently on Russian President Vladimir Putin saying he's tired of Putin's BS, obviously not the shortened version.
He said he's also going to restart weapons shipment to Ukraine.
And in fact, the pausing of those shipments to Ukraine seemingly caught the president off guard with him telling reporters that he didn't even know who an administration, in his administration, had authorized that stop.
Let's listen to this clip, and then I'd like to get you to respond.
unidentified
Last week, the Pentagon paused some shipments of weapons to Ukraine.
Did you approve of that law?
donald j trump
We wanted to put defensive weapons because Putin is not treating human beings, right?
He's killing too many people.
So we're sending some defensive weapons to Ukraine, and I've approved that.
unidentified
So who ordered the pause last week?
adam goodman
I don't know.
donald j trump
Why don't you tell me?
kimberly adams
That was quite a moment, but now the president has expressed some openness to restarting weapons shipments to Ukraine, funneling those through NATO.
Jim, what do you think of this moment in terms of the United States' role in this ongoing conflict?
unidentified
Well, it's clear that this president is hands-on, for better or for the worse.
And this is an example of the worse.
I mean, he is making decisions sometimes on the gut level.
And that's not how you conduct these operations.
There are millions of lives at stake.
A war involves a tremendous amount of planning and infrastructure.
And he may have been surprised about how Putin's behaving, but people who have studied this leader for years are not surprised at all.
And so this is a problem we face inside the Pentagon right now, that most of the senior folks are focused more on public relations as opposed to how do you effectively support our allies and deal with national security issues.
And it's difficult to see the impact it's having over there, but it's doing enormous damage.
And I pay a lot of attention to the formal national security leaders who served under President Bush who understand what's happening and are urging the president and the Pentagon to take a more serious strategic approach here.
Most of what's happening with Russia is tactical.
It is not long-term thinking.
We need to be strategic about these decisions.
kimberly adams
Sticking with foreign policy, but on a different issue, the issue of tariffs, this past week, the president announced potentially new tariffs as well as delaying the implementation of some of these tariffs to August 1st.
Let's listen to a bit of him talking about that.
donald j trump
Let's leave my deal to them.
We're picking a number that's low.
We don't want to hurt that.
And fair.
We're picking a number that's lower than, in most cases, lower than what they charged us.
But it's amazing when you've paid all this money for years and they get one president that's a little bit different and a little tougher on this subject.
And they're willing to drop everything they've been charging us for years and years.
I mean, we have countries going, we will have no, you don't have to pay any tariff to come in and do business.
They're giving us total access to their countries.
They gave us no access to the country.
They say, well, you cannot go into a country.
Okay, now it's, we will give you total access and you don't have to pay any tariffs, but please don't charge us tariffs.
And we don't like that deal.
So the letters I send out are, we have made some deals.
We can make a lot more deals.
unidentified
It's just too time consuming.
donald j trump
It just makes it more complicated.
And we can do things over the years too.
unidentified
You know, we're going to, we're not going to, we're not hard line.
donald j trump
But it's about time the United States of America started collecting money from countries that were ripping us off, ripping us off and laughing behind our back at how stupid we were.
kimberly adams
We didn't quite get the 90 deals in 90 days that the administration originally promised us.
But Adam, what is your assessment thus far of President Trump's tariff policy this term?
adam goodman
Okay, first of all, I like the fact that the President of the United States is getting on television and everything else and giving his points of view direct, right?
We didn't get a lot of that in the last administration.
Like him or not, we kind of know where Trump is almost day to day.
Maybe not moment to moment, but day to day because he's communicating more directly with us.
I think the bottom line is the only thing that counts here.
We see polls.
Do you like what's going on with tariffs or not like what's going on with tariffs?
We don't know yet how it's all going to end up.
But one thing clearly with Donald Trump, he has believed this for decades.
He believes it's been an unlevel playing field.
All he's saying is, you make it fair, we're all in.
But until it's fair, we're not all in.
And I think the deadlines that have been shifting somewhat, because these are very complex deals, right?
Even basic understandings to be reached.
I think maybe you've seen the last deadline.
And I think he's going to start to move more aggressively here.
One thing is clear.
Countries around the world and then collectives like the European Union are now taking this very seriously.
And hopefully when it's all said and done, it's going to mean that we have some tariff relief, ultimately, from abroad, and that's going to be good for the American consumer.
kimberly adams
William, now we're ready to take questions from our audience for our guests.
Our numbers for Democrats, 202-748-8000.
For Republicans, 202-748-8001.
And for Independents, 202-748-8002.
If you have questions for Adam Goodman or Jim Davis, let's start with Charlie in Bloomington, Indiana on our line for Democrats.
Good morning, Charlie.
unidentified
Hi, good morning.
This is for Mr. Goodman, is it?
Yes.
I think it's very, very telling that your most important story is the Netanyahu nominating Trump for the peace prize.
That's just so telling with everything going on.
And my question is, sorry, how can you possibly think you're going to win the peace prize when your actions are causing hundreds of thousands of children and unfortunate people to starve to death because of aid being cut off?
There's nothing peaceful about starving to death.
Thank you.
adam goodman
Thank you for the question, Charlie.
And I agree with you.
There's nothing peaceful about starving to death.
And the situation in the Middle East, this really focused on the Middle East, is at a point we haven't seen for a long time.
I think I would argue there's a new Middle East that has emerged.
Much more moderate nations, I think led by Saudi Arabia and others, have really come to the fore with ideas and relationships with this country and beyond that maybe hold the promise for true, for the first time in our lifetime, Charlie, for true peace in the Middle East.
And I think if we get there, then the Nobel Committee should certainly seriously consider this.
But it's not going to be easy.
Peace is not an easy thing.
We've lived through horrors in the Middle East for decades.
I think for the first time you see what's happening with Iran.
Iran's been isolated.
Syria is no longer its reliable ally.
They've been somewhat neutralized as we give them a shot to come legitimately to the table.
The Arab states, a lot of the Arab states are pulling together as one.
I think we have a real shot here at ending the horror, and that includes Gaza.
If we do not come to a final solution there that creates peace and a path forward for everybody, that's a failure, Charlie.
I totally agree with you.
kimberly adams
I may have misunderstood, but I think she was referencing the cuts to U.S. AIDS reports of the deaths associated with that.
adam goodman
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, sorry, Charlie.
Obviously, USAID has not had a close inspection of spending expenditures forever.
Does it do some important things?
Yes.
Does it waste a lot of money?
I think clearly, yes.
And I think what this administration is doing is taking a good second look at making sure that foreign aid that this country is spending is aid that is working and that the dollars are not being pilfered or wasted.
kimberly adams
Jim, did you have thoughts in particular on the cuts to USAID and the multiple reports of deaths in various parts of the world as a result of those cuts?
unidentified
I do.
I worked closely when I was in Congress with Central Command at Special Ops, which actually happened to be in Tampa.
And one of the things I learned from these generals is that soft power is very powerful.
It's one of the reasons that we succeed and we're respected and we use military force only as a last resort.
And soft power means building relationships and respect and helping folks out when they're in need and someday they can help us out.
And that's how USAID has been used.
Like many government programs, it certainly deserves a close look and can be more cost-effective.
It's a very, very small percentage of our budget.
But once again, similar to what we talked about earlier with the Weather Service, the decisions being made are without regard to really the impact it's having on our relationships.
And now we're seeing the impact.
And people are dying in Sudan and other countries because we have pulled back.
And when we step up, other countries join us.
So we leverage our strength.
And this is another very unfortunate example where I think we're going in the wrong direction.
kimberly adams
Bob is in Pennsylvania on our line for Republicans.
Good morning, Bob.
unidentified
Good morning.
kimberly adams
What is your question for either Adam Goodman or Jim Davis?
unidentified
I want to speak about the Butler rally to Mr. Davis or the other one.
kimberly adams
And can you turn down the volume on your TV, please, Bob?
unidentified
Yes, I can.
kimberly adams
Thank you.
And then go ahead with your question.
All right.
While we're waiting on that, let's go to Greg in Whitewater, Wisconsin, on our line for independence.
Good morning, Greg.
unidentified
Good morning.
First of all, I'm going to concur with the woman who talked about the Netanyahu is the most important issue.
That's incredibly crazy.
But the second thing I really wanted to talk about was the fact of cryptocurrency.
There was a major speech done by Trump, or a talk done by Trump, whose quality of communication also makes me concerned about future presidents, both Republican and Democrat, dealing with the emoluments clause.
He had a meme coin.
We've seen a large amount of graft that's been going on.
And I don't want to see it with Republicans.
I don't want to see it with Democrats.
And I guess, Mr. Goodman, the thing I want to ask you about is what are your thoughts about this emoluments clause?
Because we're now starting to see the executive branch get more power without less inspection.
And that's a major concern for me.
And what went on this week is something that I'm quite concerned about.
I'm going to take my response over the phone.
And I'd like to hear both people comment about cryptocurrency and the regulation of cryptocurrency and the emoluments clause, in which a president is getting away with quite a bit when it comes to this cryptocurrency and their individual graft.
The president's interest.
kimberly adams
Greg, I want to give them a chance to respond because you're raising two issues there.
Number one is the president's use of cryptocurrency and memes and his associated businesses or family businesses and the reports that have been made and complaints about that.
But also I should flag that this coming week, the House of Representatives has labeled it as crypto week because there's three major pieces of crypto legislation that the House is going to be working on this week, potentially with the Genius Act maybe even making it to the President's desk, which has to do with stable coins.
So Adam, I'll let you go first.
adam goodman
First of all, thank you for the question, Greg.
I love the naming of coins now, right?
I mean, with all these very brand-centric ideas.
Think about how far we've come on crypto in just a couple of years, where it was, I think, seen as very kind of way outside the mainstream and unlikely to ever get full traction.
And now, more and more, it's becoming debris.
And you see banks and other financial institutions starting to take this more seriously, starting to wrap this into their plans, companies wrapping this into their plans.
What is necessary for the crypto industry?
I'm glad we're having Crypto Week.
We should have Crypto Month because we've got to get this right.
And I've had on my show on 13th and Park, I've had some crypto leaders because I wanted them to explain what their biggest concern was.
You know what their biggest concern is?
That they don't get this industry regulations into the industry enough to take out those that are doing what they shouldn't be doing so that the credibility and stability and confidence of the investing public is solid moving forward.
And so they want regulation.
They want to have a clearer playing field moving forward.
As far as the president, his family, and their investments, et cetera, that's obviously something open for discussion and debate.
But the more important thing is that.
kimberly adams
But what are your thoughts on it?
adam goodman
I'm so sorry.
kimberly adams
What are your thoughts on it, though?
adam goodman
I think it's an unnecessary distraction, perhaps, for the president in this regard.
I think he's a big believer in cryptocurrency.
You know, remember, this is a big, the president is the ultimate disruptor, right?
And he thinks that in the financial system, that what crypto offers is choice and actually more control by investors versus institutions and others controlling investments for them.
So I think this is very much up his alley.
And I think it's something that was long overdue.
And I'm hopeful that the regulations that the industry wants are swiftly put into play so it becomes stable and has a real future.
kimberly adams
Jim, your thoughts on what the caller raised in terms of concerns about the ethics around President Trump and his family's involvement in the crypto industry themselves, as well as Congress's move on potential regulations.
unidentified
Well, on the latter, it's very important that this is regulated appropriately.
There is a risk that as crypto becomes more mainstream in our currency, that it could be used by bad people doing bad things and consumers can get fleeced.
And so it's very important that that is done in a measured and manner that is protective of the public interest.
As far as the emollient's concern, this is a huge problem.
We set the standard.
We should set the standard in the world in terms of integrity and government.
And it's very important that any president's family does not take steps that compromise the reputation and credibility of our government leaders.
And crypto is a perfect example where members of the family are involved in it.
And it really undermines a lot of confidence the public has in whether we're going to make good decisions.
We are living in a time of enormous cynicism.
It's more important than ever that we restore trust in government when difficult decisions need to be made.
And you cannot undermine that by people questioning, as the caller understandably does, whether there's a conflict of interest here.
This is a very important issue.
It's an issue that should bring Democrats, Republicans, and Congress together to make sure that we have the right standards and they're enforced.
kimberly adams
Just to attach some more details to the issue the caller raised, here's a story in Forbes from yesterday that Trump's crypto firm raised $52 million, likely sending millions to his family.
New disclosure reveals President Donald Trump's decentralized finance venture, World Liberty Financial, raised $52.1 million through private sales of its crypto token, likely sending tens of millions to him and his family, according to a filing last week with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Back to your calls.
Robbie is in Ruskin, Florida on our line for Democrats.
Good morning, Robbie.
unidentified
Good morning.
I'm going to try and run through this as quick as possible.
I'm going to piggyback on, I guess, what the other callers said.
I mean, if you're talking about Israel and Netanyahu and the Israeli government, man, that's not America first.
But anyway, tariffs.
The gentleman had talked about tariffs.
You know, I remember when this whole tariff war started, the conspiracy theory was that there was a letter that got sent out saying, hey, big wigs, don't worry.
I'm going to mess up the economy a little bit.
I'll tell you when to buy and sell, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Now he comes out and does all these tariff mumbo jumbo on the weekends.
So it doesn't mess up the stock market.
That's just odd.
But as far as tariffs and the impact that it's doing, is it affecting us right now?
No.
Is it slowly coming?
Yes.
Are eggs down?
Yes.
I was buying them at $5.
Now I went to the store last week.
There were $350.
Great.
That's awesome.
The president comes out and says, hey, gas, it was down at $199.
I don't know where he's at, but I'm here in Tampa, Florida.
The lowest that it's gotten was at like $286.
Now it's sitting at $305.
You know, so I go to buy gloves because I work in construction.
I was buying gloves that were $12 for three pairs.
Now those same pair of gloves are $19.
Okay, so I might be saving somewhere, but it's costing me somewhere else.
So that's as far as tariffs.
But your cryptocurrency, that's dark money being spread right there.
Why does the president care about it?
Because he makes $52 billion off that Bitcoin stuff.
kimberly adams
That's $52 million, Robbie, not billions.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
$52 million.
Hey, that's still a lot of money as a president.
kimberly adams
So Robbie, you've raised some pretty interesting points.
I want to give our guests a chance to respond.
So, Adam, if you want to go first, this idea of Trump giving a heads up to investors and sort of the accusation that he's playing the market for the benefit of certain people.
And also, Robbie was talking about the way that prices have been reacting to the trade war thoughts.
adam goodman
Okay.
Two things.
One is the stock market is at record levels.
So the investing community so far, they have concerns, as they always will.
They clearly like the direction that this administration is moving in because the market wouldn't have rebounded from a 20% hit to, I think it's 25% up since then and moving forward into record-level territory.
And so that has this, that says something about confidence.
In terms of the price of eggs, as he's going through the price of eggs in the varying levels, I remember the debate way back when then President George Bush had to respond to a question about, I think, the price of bread or something.
He couldn't get that answer right.
It was the beginning of the end for him in terms of being president.
So the focus on everyday economics is going to be the telling point about whether or not Kim, the tariffs, the economic approach to this administration, everything having to do with pocketbook is going to be heralded or harrowed when it's all said and done.
And I think ultimately, if tariffs come down, prices come down, jobs start returning to America, everyone's going to be delighted.
The journey to get there is going to be bumpy.
And clearly, the president has assured that in the first six months in office.
kimberly adams
So that's actually an interesting point that you raised, the idea that if tariffs go down and jobs start returning to America, because those economists will tell you that those things work differently, that you either keep tariffs high to bring jobs back to America or you reduce the tariffs and reduce prices.
adam goodman
A lot of economists have been questioning administrations long before the Trump administration on everything they do.
I think Donald Trump has a particular point of view about the economy.
I think his Treasury Secretary, Scott Besson, is awesome.
And he's not a yes man.
He'll say what he really believes from his experience and finance and investments.
And I think this thing, if it works as promised, it's going to be one of the greatest transformations in the economy in our lifetime.
And if it doesn't, there's something called the midterms, which are going to come into play.
kimberly adams
Jim, I want to turn to you in a story in the Washington Post about the extending the deadline around these tariffs.
Trump combats taco reputation as the White House extends the tariff deadline.
As Wall Street traders repeated the accusation that Trump always chickens out, the president falsely insisted that he did not delay a deadline to collect tariffs.
Robbie was mentioning that the price increases that many predicted hadn't shown up, which could be related to the fact that many of these tariffs haven't kicked in.
But what do you think of some of those points that Robbie raised?
First, this idea that some of these tariffs are an opportunity for people in the know to game the market, as well as the kind of inconsistency in the way that prices have been reacting to this.
unidentified
So, first of all, I agree with Robbie.
This isn't about the stock market.
It's not Wall Street.
It's about Main Street.
It's about the price at the grocery store and the hardware store.
And a tariff is a tax.
Let's be clear.
It's a tax on consumers, and it's intended to discourage people from bringing exports into the country.
The problem we've got right now is a tremendous lack of uncertainty.
It is very difficult to plan around this.
It is changing week to week.
The media is not doing a good job of reporting what's happening.
What the president is doing is not making decisions.
He's making announcements and threats for negotiating purposes.
And that confuses people.
A lot of these decisions are things that may happen in the future.
They're a promise to make a promise.
And that's very disruptive to people that are trying to plan a small business and order parts and decide what the price is going to be.
The bottom line here is what the result is going to be.
And right now, we're not really seeing a lot of results.
And it's too soon to judge those results.
But soon, we're going to know whether this has benefits.
And the ultimate benefit here is having more jobs in the United States.
And the problem is that's going to take time to rebuild our manufacturing base.
It's not something that's going to happen overnight.
And so this needs to be done in a thoughtful fashion.
And right now, it's really more of a public relations day-to-day event.
And the problem ultimately is that the Congress is supposed to be involved in this, and the president has chosen to act unilaterally.
And there's a decision going through the courts right now about whether the Congress and the President should be working together.
That decision should come out this fall.
If the court rules that the Congress has a role to play, it could pull the mat out from underneath a lot of these negotiations.
kimberly adams
So we have a question that we received on X regarding the Epstein case.
But before I read it, I want to read an article, a little bit of an article from the Wall Street Journal about this story.
With broken promises on Epstein, Pam Bondi draws the ire of Trump's supporters.
MAGA influencers are calling for the Attorney General's resignation after she failed to produce a truckload of documents about the sex offender.
Right-wing influencers and allies of President Trump are calling for the Attorney General's resignation after she backtracked on a promise to release what she once called a truckload of documents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation's investigation into convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
Bondi also previously implied that she had a list of Epstein's clients sitting on her desk waiting for her review.
The Justice Department on Monday denied the existence of such a list and said it would make no further disclosures about the case.
Now we have a question from J.D. Redding on X who says, Given the events surrounding the Epstein case, particularly Trump's handling of the files and the Justice Department's memo concluding no client list exists and affirming Epstein's death as a suicide, what are your perspectives on how this issue is being handled?
Jim, why don't you respond first?
unidentified
I think this is a very important window into how people are thinking in Washington and who they're paying attention to.
This really does not affect the lives of most folks at a time where people really need help.
They need the government to be doing a better job or doing more.
This is about, again, a tremendous amount of cynicism across the political spectrum about our government leaders, about whether information is being held back, whether the elites or the establishment are taking advantage and gaming the system.
That's what this is about.
And it is an ultimate distraction from the more important decisions we've been talking about about how to manage the economy, how to make sure the people are safe and secure when it comes to foreign policy or natural disasters.
kimberly adams
Adam J.D. Reding goes on to also ask: what's the broader political landscape, especially with prominent MAGA figures like Steve Bannon and Laura Loomer criticizing Attorney General Pam Bondi's approach and this question is about how it's affecting unity, MAGA, but I'm interested in the Republican Party more broadly.
adam goodman
Well, isn't it nice that we're understanding for the first time, maybe in this administration, that MAGA isn't monolithic, right?
That there are many different parts of MAGA.
One thing we know is a lot of its most prominent spokespeople, the Steve Bannons, Laura Loomers of this world, are anything but shy.
They put it out there, regardless of what they feel, even if it's not something that's going to necessarily make the president stay.
They feel that's why they're there.
They feel that's what the movement is all about, to try to get it right.
All I can say in terms of Pam Bondi, because for disclosure, I go way back with Pam.
I've worked with Pam off and on, going back and gymnosis from our Florida days when she was a prosecutor for the better part of two decades in the Hillsborough County State Attorney's Office.
She did an incredible job there.
She has seen things that you and I hope we never see in our life in terms of horrific crimes.
She has dealt with them with a steely toughness.
And I think here, in terms of the Epstein files, I'm writing this off as a communication snafu.
I hope it's that because I can tell you, Pam Bondi is a law and order built to kind of make things right, kind of prosecutor, leader, and communicator.
And I know that she's, I think she's done a great job.
And it's very important, by the way, the president rallied behind her full square over the last 24 hours.
kimberly adams
John is in coming, Georgia, on our line for Republicans.
Good morning, John.
unidentified
Good morning.
Yes, I have two quick points to make, and then I will ask Mr. Davis a question.
First of all, I believe the Tax Act of 1974 gives the president the authority to impose tariffs when he feels that they are untrade fair practices.
Secondly, a gentleman called saying that the president was gaining too much power.
I think the power is being returned to the president as the founders set it up.
All bureaucrats answer to the president because he is the only official elected by all the people.
If the bureaucrats didn't answer to the president, they wouldn't answer to anyone.
Our system of government is set up such that each department, with the possible exception of the Supreme Court, answers either directly or indirectly to the people.
My question for Mr. Davis is that, first of all, tax revenue to the United States government between 2019 and 2022 grew $1.4 trillion.
All of that money, thanks to Biden, went into mandatory spending.
Mandatory spending went from $2.7 trillion in 2019 to $4.1 trillion in 2022.
That represents 84% of what the government collects.
After you pay mandatory spending and interest on the debt, there is no money left.
Everything else is borrowed money.
All right.
So my question is, Mr. Davis, what do you want cut?
The Biden administration increase the annual deficit from $900 billion in 2019 to $1.8 trillion in 2022.
So, Mr. Davis, what do you want cut?
kimberly adams
Before we let Mr. Davis respond, John, with your concerns about deficits, do you have concerns about the deficits, projections attached to the recent passage of the One Big Beautiful Bill Act into law?
unidentified
The projections from the CBO without counting the current bill, the deficit is scheduled to grow over $2 trillion for the next, I think, seven or eight years.
And this is before the bill.
All right.
That bill adds approximately, what, $300 billion a year to the annual deficit.
Secondly, if you go back and look at the CBO projections for the first Trump bill, tax bill, all right, they said that the annual deficit, I mean, that the national debt would increase by about $1.5 trillion.
That never happened.
If you go back and look at all the CBO reports from 2019 through 2024, you will see that in 2022, 2023, and 2024, we had the greatest amount of money ever collected by the United States government by a long shot.
And yet we still ran almost a $2 trillion deficit each year because Biden kept spending at COVID levels.
kimberly adams
If you had done spending.
I think we've got your idea.
You raised some really important points about tax revenues and deficit spending.
I know you wanted Jim to respond.
So the first question that John asked was, you know, given that so much of our tax revenues go to mandatory spending, what would be your suggested cuts?
And then maybe you can also respond to some of John's concerns about the accuracy of CBO projections as they relate to deficit spending.
unidentified
Well, first of all, John does his homework and he's raising facts, and we need to try to work off the same set of facts.
The arguments he just made were the most compelling arguments against this bill that was just passed.
It will create a huge deficit for a generation unless it's reversed.
So the answer to John's question is it's a combination of changes that need to be made to deal with the debt and the deficit.
It is making sure that people pay their fair share of taxes, and this bill took us in the opposite direction.
The people at the very top are going to pay less taxes than ever.
And it's also looking at entitlements, Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid.
And these are very difficult issues, particularly for people that have been depending on them, that are outliving a lot of their savings and good health.
There is history where Ronald Reagan and President Clinton and others have tried to bring Democrats and Republicans together to strike that balance.
And that's what needs to happen.
But this president promised not to touch Medicare and Social Security and Medicaid.
Of course, that's not happening in this bill.
And there is not an opportunity yet to bring the country together through Democrats and Republicans to look at entitlements.
But it needs to be done.
But the first thing that needs to be done is we need to get back on the right track in terms of taxes.
As far as numbers and credibility, the CBO is a credible source.
And I think John quoted some credible numbers that suggest that we are not going in the right direction in terms of the debt and the deficit.
kimberly adams
Adam.
adam goodman
I don't know where to begin.
We have not been doing what we need to do for our children and our grandchildren for decades.
We have, since Bill Clinton, I'll give some credit to former President Bill Clinton, who was the last one to preside over a balanced budget, we have been spending ourselves crazy.
We have been mortgaging the future and we're going to put a burden on our children and grandchildren they can't possibly repay.
This isn't a Donald Trump thing.
This isn't a Joe Biden thing.
This is many presidents for a long period of time have all kind of bought into kick the can down the road and we'll figure this out.
What this president is depending on, and hopefully it's going to pan out, is that we're going to have the kind of growth that will be able to take care of paying for a lot of this additional burden of potential deficit.
We'll see if that works or not.
But everything that's happened on our watch over the last 25 years suggests to me we have yet to really rein in the one thing we don't want to rein in, which is government spending.
If we don't do that, and Jim just mentioned taxes, I think, suggesting raising taxes, and let's go beyond taxing the billionaires and taxing the million, good, do that.
That's not going to be enough.
And raising taxes in the Republican frame of mind is not the way to get things to happen.
And one more thing.
This entire world, Kim, is changing before our eyes because of two letters, AI.
AI is fundamentally changing just about everything.
We're not sure where it's going yet, but it is.
And to the caller, John, who talked about executive power, and the Supreme Court, in some of its more recent decisions, is starting to move more and more into granting more executive power.
If you might not agree with this or not, and all the callers, of all the callers, some will agree and some won't agree.
I believe that when we are in a race, in essence, with China and other economic superpowers, we have to win the AI race.
And I think it helps us when we have an executive, Republican or Democrat, an executive in the White House that can move and move faster than ever before and not be burdened.
I know democracy is a messy thing and government is slow moving.
If government's slow moving, we lose the AI race and some other things.
We're going to be looking in our rearview mirror at everyone gaining on us and ultimately passing us.
And it's our fault.
It's on our watch that this is happening.
I like the fact that we're giving the president more ability to do more things faster than ever before.
kimberly adams
Since you raised this, I wonder if you can both quickly respond to the fact that on Tuesday the Supreme Court did rule in the president's favor, giving him more authority to do these sort of sweeping mass layoffs that he had wanted to do.
What do you think of the impact of that on his administration's strategies moving forward?
adam goodman
Well, the layoffs you're talking about, the trimming of the federal workforce, clearly is one of the top objectives of this administration.
Again, that is not without some really tough turbulence that goes with it, right?
And his theory of government is we can do better and do more with less.
That bureaucracy over time just goes fat and inefficient.
And it's time for us to go in and take a look again freshly at everything.
And I think that's what he's banking on.
And I think ultimately, frankly, I think that's what Americans wanted him to attempt to do.
kimberly adams
Jim, quickly, your thoughts on that Supreme Court ruling before we go back to callers.
unidentified
Kimberly, it's confusing because what the court said was the president can proceed with this executive order, which says agencies can make decisions on layoffs in accordance with the law.
And that's the question, is whether they follow the law.
And that's why there was many justices who agreed with this, just follow the law.
So we really haven't gotten to the issue yet about whether they follow the law.
I also want to quickly say, Adam mentioned raising taxes.
We are raising taxes right now.
These are taxes people are paying when they go to the grocery store and buy things because a tariff is a tax.
kimberly adams
Samuel is in Hotchkiss, Colorado, on our line for independence.
Good morning, Samuel.
Good morning.
And turn down the volume on your TV, please, Samuel.
Yes, we are here.
Just make sure you turn down the volume on your TV, then go ahead.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't think you can hear the TV.
kimberly adams
Okay, go ahead then.
unidentified
Oh, I wanted to say, you know, Trump keeps acting like the other countries pay the tariff.
That guy that just spoke, he's right.
It's not, that isn't how it works.
And Trump's kind of a thick-headed nut that you can't, if you sit him down and explain it to him, he'd come back later and say, I didn't know what you said.
paul in fema region 4
You know, so the trouble that you got with Trump is he ain't got much brains.
kimberly adams
And did you have a question, Samuel?
unidentified
Did you have a question, Samuel?
Well, that was what I basically was saying.
With the tariffs, it's going to make the price of your shoes go up.
kimberly adams
Okay.
unidentified
Adam, did you add any thoughts to what Samuel had to say?
adam goodman
I think he was pretty clear about his point of view with the president.
kimberly adams
Okay, let's go to Andres in Gatesmill, Ohio on our line for Republicans.
Good morning, Andres.
unidentified
Good morning.
Thank you for taking my call.
Hopefully, you can hear me.
kimberly adams
Yes, we can hear you.
Please go ahead.
unidentified
On the tariff.
A lot of people, particularly, quote, Republican consultants, are, like the president, totally ignorant as to how foreign trade works.
Okay?
The president keeps talking about, oh, they charge us this, or we charge them, and they pay us.
Look, you want to buy a tanker of oil.
You send a confirmed, irrevocable letter of credit to a bank who will pay upon you putting your supplier, putting that tanker of oil, let's say, in Houston.
The minute it gets to Houston, it is the American problem to put it into the country.
kimberly adams
We're running a little bit low on time in this segment.
Did you have a question?
I heard you mentioned Republican strategists.
I'm guessing you're talking about Adam here, but is there something in particular you wanted to ask him?
unidentified
Well, yes.
How can this person justify morally the goons arresting people on the street?
kimberly adams
Okay, so we're switching over to the ICE.
unidentified
Justify morally.
kimberly adams
Let's let Adam respond.
This has been a very controversial strategy of this administration.
adam goodman
Let's focus on that, on ICE.
I recently interviewed Tom Hummett.
Tom spent his entire career as a Border Patrol officer on the southern border and has seen things, again, as I said earlier, about something else that you and I hope we would never see in our lifetime.
What he said to me was, Congress passed the laws that ICE is now following.
And the criticism ICE is getting is for executing the very laws that Congress passed.
And he said while saying that, if Congress wants to change that law, go for it.
If you think we should do something different, do something in a different fashion, change the law and we'll enforce that law.
But what we're not going to do is choose which laws we're going to follow and which ones we're not.
And that's what this is feeding into.
And of course, there are always media that loves to sensationalize often particular storylines.
But the biggest storyline in all this is we've been screaming for years about getting a more secure border, especially on the southern flank.
We have a ICE director of Borders Are who is following the laws that Congress passed.
And I think he's doing it really, really well.
If we don't like the way it's playing out, change the law, and then they will enforce whatever that is.
kimberly adams
Can I get your response to some statements that Homan made on a recent Fox News appearance where he said, look, people need to understand ICE officers and Border Patrol don't need probable cause to walk up to somebody, briefly detain them, and question them.
They just need the totality of the circumstances, right?
They just go through observation, get our typical facts based on the location, the occupation, their physical appearance, their actions.
Do you think those are reasonable conditions under which to stop someone for ICE investigation?
adam goodman
Yeah, I can't speak to that in particular.
One, because I'm not going to speak for Tom Homan.
What he's frustrated by is in a lot of places in America, Los Angeles would be one, there has been an attitude by local officials to basically not uphold the law, to basically shield illegal immigrants from detention or arrest and potential deportation.
That's not legal.
That's against the very will of Congress and it's against the very will of the American people trying to get control of a situation we absolutely have found we were out of control with for far too long.
So some of the things, some of the storylines are going to be concerning for Americans.
I get it.
But if you really want to secure our borders and feel that's important in terms of not just illegal immigration, but fentanyl, the cartels, et cetera, wreaking havoc on America, then you got to belly up to the bar here and be a part of the effort to do just that.
kimberly adams
Jim, your thoughts on this topic?
unidentified
Well, first of all, I think the goal here should be to keep people safe and to make sure folks are accountable when they've broken the law.
But that's not the agenda at work here.
The agenda here is sensationalizing.
And if you look at what the speeches that are being made by the leaders in this administration, it is heavily focused on public relation, theater, and images.
The Alligator Alcatraz in Florida is an example of that.
My favorite example is there was a media report that 100 Marines were sent to Florida to do clerical duty.
I mean, why in the heck are Marines being asked to do something like that?
The second point I want to make is it's very important, as Adam mentioned, that the administration follows the law.
And if they don't like the law, go to Congress and ask them to change it.
And if you look at what's happening, there is a huge fight going on between the courts and the administration about following the law.
You should not be throwing people out of the country based on charges that aren't true.
Now they're trying to send people to countries where they're going to be less safe than where they left.
And these are decisions that need to be considered carefully.
And there are laws that strike that balance.
So it's very important the courts continue to do their job.
Some of this is going to happen in the Supreme Court.
And I think you're going to see liberals, conservative Democrats, and Republicans coming together to say to the president and his administration, you need to follow the law.
If you don't like the law, let's go have a debate about changing it.
kimberly adams
Well, that's all the time we have for this segment.
Thank you very much to Jim Davis, who is a former U.S. Representative in Florida.
Thank you very much for your time this morning.
And Adam Goodman, who is a Republican strategist and also the host of the podcast 13th and PARC.
We really appreciate your time today.
adam goodman
Thanks, Kim.
kimberly adams
All right.
Coming up next, we're going to have joining us E ⁇ E climate reporter Chelsea Harvey, who's going to join us to discuss the Texas flooding response and the challenges that other communities are facing as these extreme weather events become more common.
We'll be right back.
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kimberly adams
Welcome back.
We're joined now by Chelsea Harvey, who is a climate reporter with E ⁇ E News by Politico.
Welcome to Washington Journal.
unidentified
Thanks for having me.
kimberly adams
So we're going to discuss the ongoing response to the flooding in Texas and the role that some of the changes in the federal government as it relates to some of these weather forecasting agencies may have played some kind of role in this.
But first, besides forecast from the National Weather Service, what other elements are necessary for communities to be able to prepare for and to respond to disasters like what we saw in Texas?
unidentified
Yeah, so effective response really, really hinges on effective collaboration between the meteorologists who are putting the forecast together and issuing the warnings from the National Weather Service and local officials or emergency managers in the communities that are going to be affected.
And so, you know, the way that the pipeline tends to work is National Weather Service, they're working on their forecasts.
They see an event coming.
They start putting out warnings.
You know, once the warnings reach a certain level of urgency, they will automatically start triggering wireless emergency alerts.
Those are alerts that will go out over mobile devices.
They'll go out over NOAA weather radios.
And then after that point, it's communication with local officials.
And then it's sort of the system goes to how do local officials start to disseminate the warnings and communicate the dangers to the public themselves.
The public can receive the alerts directly from the National Weather Service since they're going out over these sort of emergency systems.
But it's up to local officials to make sure that the message is reaching the people who need to receive it.
That can involve all kinds of different local systems.
It can involve outdoor warning systems like sirens.
It can involve local counties, for example, can have their own emergency alert systems.
It can involve social media.
It can involve knocking on doors.
But it's really this collaboration between the forecasters and local officials that really matters.
kimberly adams
I want to point to two of your recent articles because they highlight kind of this debate that's been happening in the aftermath of this disaster.
The first one with the headline, the Texas flood forecasts were accurate.
It wasn't enough to save lives.
The National Weather Service issued timely alerts, meteorologists say, but few were listening in the hours before the early morning flash floods.
And you have another story saying that flood predictions could worsen when Trump's cuts take hold.
Forecasts and warnings largely worked during the Texas catastrophe.
Those systems are expected to degrade as President Donald Trump's agenda takes hold.
In the immediate aftermath of this, lots of people were asking questions.
Did the cuts that have already happened play a role?
What's going to happen?
Can you explain this?
unidentified
Sure.
So I think a lot of the questions about what happened in the aftermath of this event have centered on vacancies in certain key roles at the National Weather Service offices that were serving the communities affected by these floods.
So there were two offices in particular.
There was the National Weather Service office in San Angelo and the office in San Antonio.
In both of these office, there were vacancies in some top roles.
So there are certain top meteorologist positions in most local National Weather Service offices across the country that their job is really meant to coordinate between the meteorologists in the office and between local officials and emergency managers.
And in both of those offices, there were some of these key roles missing because those staff members had been lost during the layoffs and staff reductions that have occurred over the last few months at the National Weather Service.
The question is, did the fact that those roles were vacant, did that make a difference in terms of communications and collaborations with local officials?
Was there any sort of communication that should have happened during an emergency like these floods that didn't occur?
That is still unclear.
What I'm told is that there were adequate numbers of staff on duty during these events.
The right number of people were at work working on these forecasts.
But it's still unclear whether the fact that these key roles were vacant, whether anybody had stepped in to fill them in the ways that they should have been filled, or if they did result in some sort of breakdown in communication with local officials.
kimberly adams
Right.
One local official in Texas has said that the crux of this disaster is a failure of the last mile of communication.
What did he mean by that?
unidentified
Yeah, so the last mile really refers to, you know, once the forecast is set, we know an extreme weather event is coming, we know where it's going to hit, we know, you know, what communities need to receive the warnings, then, you know, it's really up to local officials and to emergency managers to make sure the public is getting those warnings.
So, you know, again, the National Weather Service forecasts, once they reach a certain level of urgency, they do trigger these emergency alerts.
But a lot of people, I mean, some people don't have alerts enabled on their phones, or they don't have cell phone service, or they don't have a mobile device at all.
And in that case, they would need to have a NOAA weather radio in order to get these alerts.
A lot of people don't have those.
Some people don't even know what those are.
And so it's really up to local officials to make sure that all communities are receiving these alerts and also that they're taking them seriously and they really understand the dangers.
And that's the last mile of communication.
It's translating the forecast and the warnings from the National Weather Service to local officials and then making sure that the local officials are then translating those warnings to the public.
kimberly adams
This came up at a congressional hearing.
President Trump's nominee to head the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Neil Jacobs, spoke about staffing and the staffing needed to ensure that weather information actually reaches rural communities.
Here's what he had to say.
maria cantwell
We see it all the time because the gap, NOAA says, okay, well, I'm going to give you the information, and then it's a rural community and they don't have the plan.
So as I said, University of Washington is filling that gap.
So what can we do now that we've had 27 extreme events this year?
What can we do to help communities get better plans?
unidentified
Well, going back to your weather service question, if confirmed, I will ensure that staffing the weather service offices is a top priority.
It's really important for the people to be there because they have relationships with the people in the local community.
They're a trusted source.
I didn't mean to imply that this was going to be regionalized or anything.
As I mentioned.
maria cantwell
Some people have suggested that the private sector you could just do it in one location.
And I'm just trying to get to this point that this regional data and integration with the emergency responders is critical.
unidentified
Consolidating the data, not consolidating the people.
Okay.
I would love for the people to be more embedded in the community.
maria cantwell
Thank you.
Thank you for that answer.
kimberly adams
Chelsea, what do you think of that assessment?
unidentified
Yeah, you know, so at the hearing, Neil Jacobs did, you know, speak out in support of adequate staffing at the National Weather Service.
It's, you know, it's an interesting point about making sure that the right people are embedded in their communities.
This refers back to your question a moment ago about the last mile of communication, which really does involve deep collaboration between National Weather Service staff and local officials and often involves National Weather Service staff being embedded in emergency management operations centers and attending meetings and exercises and that sort of thing.
But also during the same hearing, Jacobs was asked about the budget for NOAA for fiscal year 2026.
The budget request from the Trump administration does call for some $2.2 billion in cuts to NOAA.
And he also said he supported the president's budget.
So I think that there is a disconnect between acknowledging the need for adequate staffing and also supporting these very dramatic budget cuts, which many experts have expressed big concern are going to have deep impacts on National Weather Service forecasting capabilities.
kimberly adams
Well, we're going to take your calls with questions for Chelsea Harvey, a climate reporter for ENE News by Politico.
We have regional phone lines for this segment.
If you're in the Eastern or Central time zones, 202-748-8000.
In the Mountain and Pacific time zones, 202-748-8001.
And then we have a special line for residents of Texas in particular, 202-748-8002.
And we'll start with someone in Temple, Texas.
Anne.
Good morning, Anne.
unidentified
Good morning.
kimberly adams
Please go ahead.
unidentified
Hi, I have a question about something that Chelsea Harvey just was talking about, how the messaging, how the messaging is extremely important at the last leg.
I have a concern that since this was a camp and my children went to camp in this area for years and were never allowed to have a cell phone in the camp.
And I'm concerned that the kids didn't have cell phones and maybe possibly the counselors didn't have their cell phones and would not have heard any kind of warning that went out since the cell phones are mixed much like a classroom environment in the schools in these days.
It's concerned that warnings were possible, but you have to be able to receive it.
kimberly adams
That's a really interesting point there.
And Chelsea, your thoughts on that?
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, it is a great point.
And we have heard reports about Camp Mystic that, you know, exactly what you just said, that campers were not allowed to have cell phones.
We've heard the same has applied to some counselors.
And, you know, I mean, this is that was the medium by which most of these alerts were going out was these wireless emergency communications going out over cell phones.
In the absence of a cell phone, you would need to have a NOAA weather radio, which, you know, it seems that most of the campers did not have access to.
I mean, we've heard reports that, you know, that campers and counselors were woken up by rising floodwaters.
So this is a really, really prime example of, again, this last mile of communication where officials need to be aware of places in the community where people might not have access to the emergency alerts going out over mobile devices or over radio, and they need to be out there making sure that those people are getting the message.
kimberly adams
What about some of these flood warning systems that have been a topic of discussion since this disaster?
unidentified
Yeah, so, you know, there are municipalities in Texas that do have outdoor warning systems.
These are things like, you know, sirens that go off to alert members of the public when there's an extreme weather event coming.
This was exactly the kind of location where, you know, that sort of system may have made a difference because we did have people, you know, camping outdoors in places where they didn't have access to cell phone service or they didn't have their cell phones with them.
And that's exactly the kind of situation where an outdoor warning system, you know, could have really saved lives.
You know, there had been discussion in, so Kerr County did not have a system like this.
And there had been discussion over recent years about implementing such a warning system.
The county had applied for funding from the state several times over the last few years, did not receive funding, and in the end did not implement a warning system.
Officials have cited reasons related to cost for that.
And so I think this is another example of exactly the kind of supplementary warning system that could have made a difference in this case.
kimberly adams
Some of your colleagues at Politico had a story similar to this saying that the disaster that unfolded in Kerr County, Texas shows how many communities will struggle to prepare for extreme weather as the federal government pulls back, that they may find themselves just as exposed to the next catastrophe.
Emergency managers and scientists warned, pointing to the soaring toll of climate change and the Trump administration's steep cuts to weather and disaster spending, though those cuts may not have played a direct role in the death toll from the Central Texas floods, a point the White House argued strenuously on Monday while maintaining that the National Weather Service did its job in predicting the rising water.
Meteorologists and climate scientists also praise the NWS for its accurate timely forecasts, but the Weather Service and its parent organization are reeling from mass layoffs and early retirements pushed by President Donald Trump's Department of Government Efficiency.
And the sprawling tax bill that he signed last week canceled more than $200 million in spending that was supposed to improve weather forecasting and make communities more resilient to disasters.
Can you talk about some of the changes in the recently passed One Big Beautiful Bill Act that might affect these communities in terms of disaster preparedness?
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, the bill, you know, I think the big takeaway there is that it really basically reverses course on our response to climate change, including our investments in clean energy, which is really, you know, the pathway to addressing climate change.
Experts have, you know, scientists have said this over and over again.
You know, what's fossil fuels, emissions of fossil fuels are what is driving climate change.
And, you know, a shift away from fossil fuels into renewable energy, clean energy sources is what is needed to address that.
And the bill, you know, really reverses course on all of that and eliminates tax credits for things like wind, solar, electric vehicles, and instead makes it cheaper to produce fossil fuels, which are, at the end of the day, the root cause of climate change.
kimberly adams
Charlie is in Beaumont, Texas.
Good morning, Charlie.
unidentified
Oh, good morning.
What we just experienced was a horrible tragedy.
Now, I believe we had a deputy call in and report the danger in Upper Kerr County, saying he needed an alarm set off.
And the agent that took the call said, no, we, well, it'll approval from my supervisor.
Well, that was an hour and a half coming.
Now, that was a tragedy right there.
And it's always, our system is always good for the weakest point.
And that just goes to the point right there.
Nothing was followed through.
There's been so many cases of disasters where the weakest points don't get passed on.
And it's just heart-wrenching for all this.
But again, I don't, it's just amazing the danger of flooding and the amount of rain that was going on, how more precautions wasn't taken.
And I want to thank you for taking my call.
kimberly adams
Charlie, before I let you go, what kind of changes are you hoping that either the state or the local community makes after this disaster?
unidentified
Okay, it's the local community that takes, we ought they ought to be stretching that alarm system a mile a year.
Something, just get started.
Just do a little bit, a little bit, have the deputies going down the road with their sirens and tell people if that's what to if they hear of the sirens coming down the road and it's been raining, you better take precautions.
But that's my whole point.
We want to wait until the state passes the money down.
We want to wait till the federal government passes the money down.
And that is a shame that they're controlling the money and not the community.
So that's, yeah, that is my comment right there.
kimberly adams
Chelsea, your thoughts on Charlie's points there.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, there are still so many questions about the local response to these floods and what went wrong there and how officials could have ensured that more people received the warnings.
I think that this caller was referring to an alert system known as Code RED, which is a local emergency alert system in Kerr County.
It's a system that residents have to proactively sign up for, from what I understand.
And reports that have come out over the last week have suggested that there was a request for a CODERED alert to go out and that the warnings did not go out for maybe a couple of hours after the National Weather Service warning started going out.
I mean, I think this is yet another example of opportunities that were available in these communities for local officials to take full advantage of all of the resources at their disposal.
And that's not necessarily what happened in this case.
kimberly adams
There's a question we received from Sally Sue on X who says, could GOP priorities be to blame for some of the deaths?
Kerr County was denied the $1 million needed for a life-saving warning system while Governor Abbott spent hundreds of millions busing migrants north just to score political points.
unidentified
Right.
So, you know, I mean, Kerr County, you know, as I mentioned before, had applied for funding for, you know, to implement a warning system.
They'd applied a couple of times over the last few years, from what I understand, had not received funding, didn't implement the warning system.
You know, it's still officials have, you know, not talked a lot about the reasons behind that and, you know, kind of what happened with their exploration, you know, of at least the concept of a warning system in Kerr County.
You know, to your question about GOP priorities, I mean, I think that speaks to kind of the broader issue here about how the cuts implemented already by the Trump administration across agencies like NOAA, the National Weather Service,
FEMA, you know, how those cuts have already played a role in this disaster and how the cuts that have been proposed in the upcoming budget might continue to play a role in these kinds of disasters in the future.
And there are definitely big concerns about that.
kimberly adams
Raymond is in Seminole, Florida.
Good morning, Raymond.
unidentified
Good morning.
Yeah, I just wanted to mention you got to stop politicizing all this stuff with climate change and everything else.
I don't think it does anybody any good.
I think more people need to educate themselves and read and really understand like what the atmosphere is made of.
I mean, the carbon thing, it's really kind of a joke if you look at it.
You know, you've got obviously nitrogen, oxygen is like 99%, and then, you know, methane and carbon is like 0.03, 0.4.
So the bottom line is Stephen Hawkins said it the best.
We've had five extinction events.
The last one we had, we had a covering.
The sun couldn't get through the five atmospheres to ricochet back to create greenhouse.
And basically, we've been melting since.
So I'm not a climate denier.
I live in Florida.
I see the shifting, as I call it more of a climate shift than a climate change.
Like June and July used to be really, really hot.
September and October.
That's why if they notice the storms are a lot later in the season, the busiest ones are when the water is hot in September and October.
So we're going to start politicizing this thing.
I guarantee if I asked most people, they wouldn't even understand the five climate regions in the world and how they affect those things.
Haven't changed.
The polar still the polar.
The tropics are still the tropics and continental and so on and so forth.
So I think people need to go and educate themselves a little more because putting in electric vehicles and stuff, to be honest, that's a joke.
Even Stephen Hawkins was like, that's not what's going to save the world.
What's going to save the world is building infrastructure.
So when these storms do happen and they are happening more frequent, how do we react to them and how do we infrastructurally protect ourselves?
Because they're going to have to.
kimberly adams
Raymond, if I could get some clarity from you in terms of the politicization of this, if you are acknowledging that there are climate shifts and that there are changes in the weather, how is it politicizing it to look for policy solutions that, as Chelsea was laying out, sort of build in resiliency against storms or funding programs?
unidentified
It's actually very simple.
You can't control the weather.
If you think that you are powerful and strong enough to control the weather, you've already lost.
That's the bottom line.
If you think that the problem nowadays with these climate extremists is like they literally think they can snap their fingers and control the weather, forget about it.
You are not powerful enough to control the weather.
kimberly adams
All right, let's have Chelsea respond to some of those points you've raised.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, I think this is not a matter of politicizing.
You know, when scientists and when politicians, you know, bring up the issue of climate change in the aftermath of a disaster, it's because they're interested in saving lives.
You know, many, many people were tragically killed in this event.
You know, if the question is, how do we save lives in the future?
How do we prevent tragedies like this from occurring?
We absolutely have to raise the question of climate change because, you know, as you mentioned yourself, we are already seeing the impacts of climate change in terms of worsening extreme weather events.
And so, you know, to the point about we can't control the weather, I mean, the science is very clear.
There is a pathway to addressing climate change, and that is reducing carbon emissions, and that means reducing our reliance on fossil fuels.
And so, you know, I think addressing the root cause of these disasters means necessarily addressing the question of climate change.
So it's not politicizing, it's really getting to the root of the question of how can we save lives.
kimberly adams
Everett is in Colorado.
Good morning, Everett.
unidentified
Good morning.
I'd like to hit this disaster from a couple different angles.
But the gentleman that just spoke is exactly right.
You got to educate yourself about a lot of things when it comes to the weather.
We do not have that power to control it.
My condolences to those that passed away and there's families that are dealing with this.
And all the rescue people I was working on at the fire department for 28 years.
They're doing a wonderful job, but it's an impossible job sometimes when it comes to flooding like this.
The weather problem becomes, if you take an overall look, over millions of years, climate is going to change.
Where I live in Grand Junction, Colorado, it's a high desert.
There used to be an inlet ocean here.
The Hongatunga eruption just about three or four years ago, the weatherman I was watching the other day, you know, a few days back, basically said that that eruption put the moisture and the humidity into the stratosphere, and it's been gradually coming down.
And just that one volcano over the last three or four years has changed the climate.
What do you think about that?
And let's don't blame each other.
You know, it's we do what we can locally and go on from there.
kimberly adams
Okay, Chelsea, your response there?
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, I would have to say again, you know, the links between climate change and worsening extreme weather events are really, really clear.
And the links between carbon emissions, fossil fuel emissions, and climate change and extreme weather events are really, really clear.
So, you know, it's impossible to talk about these disasters in a productive way.
How do we save lives without raising that issue?
You know, and I would also say, you know, as folks have pointed out on the program this morning, we are already seeing these impacts in terms of worsening extreme weather events.
You know, climate change is here.
This is not something that's going to happen in the future.
We're already seeing it.
The floods in Texas are a prime example of exactly the kind of event that is becoming more frequent and more intense with climate change.
So it's not just, you know, of course, we have to be addressing the root cause of these worsening disasters, which is climate change.
And also, we have to be acknowledging the fact that these things are happening now and they do require adaptation.
You know, we need to acknowledge that they are happening and we have to take steps to prepare ourselves for them now.
kimberly adams
Mac is in Germantown, Maryland.
Good morning, Mac.
unidentified
Yes, good morning.
james in south carolina
I've been following the flood situation in Texas, and it's heartbreaking to see what's happening over there.
unidentified
But this is what I've been getting from the politicians over there in Texas.
Everybody from Ted Cruz down to the lowest man.
If you listen to the press conferences, they're saying that, oh, well, the morning went out, even though the media has it the other way around.
Oh, the morning went out.
This happened.
That happened.
And apparently, what my takeaway from the press conferences is that they're sure that it's not big enough to take any blame for what happened in Texas.
Ted Cruz would not take any blame at all.
james in south carolina
I did will not take any blame.
unidentified
My question is this: it's real simple.
Whose fault is it?
Is it the people, the victims, the people who lost their lives, the people who lost their property?
Is it their fault?
We saw what happened.
kimberly adams
So, Mac, we're just out of time.
I want to give Chelsea a chance to respond.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, this comes back to the question of, you know, what went wrong starting at the local level.
And again, there are many questions still swirling around about where the failures occurred at the local level.
I mean, it's very clear that many people who should have received these warnings did not receive them.
You know, and it is true that local officials in Kerr County have not provided a lot of clarity on exactly what emergency management officials were doing in the early hours of the morning after these urgent alerts started going out.
So yes, there are many questions about what went wrong at the local level.
And then rising all the way up to the federal level, the Trump administration's response has been, the National Weather Service put out its accurate forecast and its accurate warnings.
And this was a tragedy, but the system worked the way it was supposed to work.
And, you know, again, I would have to raise the issue that, you know, this was the way that the system worked with a lot of its components still in place.
And, you know, many, many people lost their lives.
And there are big questions about how cuts down the road at National Weather Service and potential changes at FEMA might affect future disasters.
kimberly adams
Well, thank you very much for your time.
Chelsea Harvey is a climate reporter at E ⁇ E News by Politico.
Thank you very much for your time this morning.
unidentified
Thanks for having me.
kimberly adams
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kimberly adams
Welcome back.
We're in open forum, ready to take your calls on public affairs issues of the day.
But first, a bit of a news item that happened over this weekend.
Lawmakers visited Alligator Alcatraz, as reported here in the Miami Herald.
That was on Saturday.
And among those visiting was Representative Maxwell Frost, a Democrat from Florida, who described the conditions at Alligator Alcatraz, this immigration detention center in the Florida Everglades.
And this came during a Zoom call with the press after he was given a tour.
Let's listen.
unidentified
When they showed us the cages, they wouldn't let us go into the actual tent.
They let us stand at the door.
They opened the door.
There was about six security guards standing there, kind of pushing us back, but we could see in and we could hear everybody.
And when those doors opened, you know, what I saw made my heart sink.
I saw 32 people per cage, about six cages in the one tent.
I saw a lot of people, young men who looked like me and people who were my age.
People were yelling, help me, help me.
I heard in the back someone say, I'm a U.S. citizen.
And as we were walking away, they started chanting, leave it that, leave it that, leave it that freedom.
And looking into these cages, you could see, of course, it was warm and hot within the tent.
People were sweating.
Some people had taken off the top of their clothing because it was just so hot.
Some of them were drenched in sweat.
The food we saw is not enough food.
They're being fed essentially a small sandwich and a bag of chips.
And not just that, but the conditions outside, of course, it's blazing hot.
And the fact that the cage comes from the toilet, number one, not everyone's going to be able to drink as much water as they'd like to because of that inconvenience, but also it's gross and it's disgusting.
And this is where people are being held.
kimberly adams
More on that tour from the reporting in the Miami Herald.
The visit is one of the state's first steps towards transparency at a hastily erected site housing hundreds of migrant detainees slated for deportation by the federal government.
Several lawmakers said they were told by the director of the Division of Emergency Management, which oversees the site, that the plan is to deport all detainees within two weeks of their arrival.
The DeSantis administration has so far refused to release a list of the men housed at the facility or say how many people are kept in its cells, built inside heavy-duty tents.
Several lawmakers said the few staffers who would speak to them told them roughly 900 migrants are being detained on the site.
Attorneys and families say they have had trouble locating detainees who during the first days of operations have shared stories of toilets that don't flush, extreme temperatures, and low-quality food.
The day after the first detainees arrived, Democrats were turned away at the gates.
The state has ignored the Miami Herald's requests to visit the facility.
Now, we'll turn to your comments on any public policy issue you'd like to discuss for Open Forum.
Amy is in Richmond, Virginia on our line for Democrats.
Good morning, Amy.
unidentified
Hello, can you hear me okay?
kimberly adams
Yes, I can.
unidentified
First of all, the floods in Texas are absolutely horrible.
I feel so sorry for those people.
But I also feel sorry for the people who do not understand about climate change.
And I wanted to quote some articles or just tell about some articles if I have time.
One of them is about Exxon and how this article is from October 26, 2015 from Science American or Scientific American.
Exxon knew about climate change almost 40 years ago.
And the article explains how Exxon knew about it.
And once they learned the effect of using fossil fuels over time, that it would change the climate, they started denying it.
And people compare it to what the tobacco industry did back when they were trying to show that tobacco was bad for people and they wanted the warnings on the boxes and everything and they had the trials and all that.
justice neil gorsuch
But anyway, if anyone wanted to read it, it's Scientific American, October 26, 2015.
unidentified
One more article is, well, I wanted to talk about how Genesis 1:26, God gave man dominion over the earth.
And God meant that we're supposed to take care of the earth.
And it's our duty to steward the creation that he gave us so that we continue to live on it.
One more thing, a 2009 film called The Age of Stupid.
It's about the oil industries and how they covered up and used all these fake scientists and everything to try to deny climate change just to stoke doubt among the people so that they wouldn't believe it.
And one more article.
kimberly adams
Well, we want to get to a couple of other folks in open forum.
Let's hear from Craig in Du Bois in Indiana on our line for Republicans.
Good morning, Craig.
unidentified
Yes, good morning.
Thank you for taking my call.
I just want to comment on a couple of the subjects that you had on the show today.
First of all, was the Trump foreign policy.
For all the Democrats, I remember Joe Biden standing squinting in front of the camera saying to Ukraine and excuse me to Russia, don't.
Don't.
That was his foreign policy.
And then they came in anyway.
Regarding climate change and the discussion on the Texas flooding, that river has, why is that river there?
That river was made over thousands of years through flooding, through erosion, et cetera.
People just happen to be around it.
God bless them.
And the other question I have, when did climate change start?
Can anybody go back and pick the date and the time that climate change started?
Thank you very much.
kimberly adams
Next up is Anthony in Detroit, Michigan on our line for independence.
Good morning, Anthony.
unidentified
Hi.
The biggest story of the week for me is with Trump totally betraying his base and humiliating them by making them defend his actions where he's continuing the Ukraine war, same as Biden, and doing the same things in Israel, same as Biden.
And the Epstein cover-up, that's getting real bad, so it's embarrassing his supporters.
kimberly adams
Are you a supporter of the president, Anthony?
unidentified
No, I never have.
No, no, not Democrats or Republicans.
I don't like either of them.
But we have a, I would like to see Washington Journal, if you could do a segment on in Detroit here.
We have a mayoral election this year.
August 5th is the primary.
And we have nine candidates.
It'll be the first new mayor of Detroit in 12 years.
So that'd be an interesting topic.
kimberly adams
Thanks for flagging that.
Next up is Richard in San Francisco on our line for Democrats.
Good morning, Richard.
unidentified
Yeah, good morning.
Love Washington Journal.
There's so many subjects here, but the disaster in Texas, a lot of the, I mean, that's basically funding for proper warning systems and incompetency about taking the warnings and getting the people that needed to evacuate, period.
And it comes from the funding.
Now, this comes from the federal to the state.
Abbott, he was the one that people were freezing because they didn't have electricity and gas because he hadn't made a deal with other states to bring it in in emergencies.
So the slashing and burning of essential services like the Weather Service and FEMA, we're seeing the result already.
Why the billionaires get, I mean, trillions of dollars in tax breaks, and they're cutting things like, you know, the weather service and FEMA and now Medicaid, people are going to die.
I mean, thousands and thousands of people are going to die just from cuts of Medicaid, let alone what's going to happen with these severe weather events.
I saw the guy in Florida, these people talking about denying weather change.
Well, it's happening right in front of your face, and maybe a tornado will drop on your house, you know, without a warning.
So that, I mean, it's basically the priorities are we don't give a crap about the people that need the services, right?
But we do care about the Trojan billionaires, even though it's going to add about $5 trillion to the deficit.
And it's a sick situation with a spiritual dilemma of not even doing what the government's supposed to do, which is these were do for people what they can't do for themselves and do it collectively.
That's why we have the government, right?
And it's, I mean, that's the crux of the argument, isn't it, Richard?
kimberly adams
There's an argument that the government shouldn't necessarily be the default backstop for everyone.
There's disagreement on that.
unidentified
Well, who's going to disagree with it?
I mean, Europe's found out.
You know, I mean, it's like they have universal health care.
What could be more important than that?
If you're going to use tax dollars, which we all pay into, you have to do something that's going to have for the collective good.
So I guess you can just not have universal health care, and a lot of people die.
They don't get services, you know, or we don't have retirement plans that are in place like Social Security, and people just lose everything at the end of their life.
You know, I mean, we have roads, we have fire departments, we have police departments, we have all these agencies.
Why?
Because you cannot do those services for yourself.
You can't, you're not a doctor that can actually take care of yourself.
You know, I mean, you know, I'm saying, so, I mean, our priorities are all backwards.
And if you look at tax cuts, it started with Reagan.
kimberly adams
Well, I want to get to a couple more other folks.
Let's hear from Jeanette in Burlington, Vermont, on our line for independence.
Good morning, Jeanette.
unidentified
Good morning.
Hi.
Glad to be with you today.
I want to talk about Christy Noam because Christy Noam was missing in action.
For three days, she did not send rescue, search and rescue.
That's so important in a ground game, just like a football game.
You have to have a ground game plan before you start playing.
The Ariel, she did not send aerial.
That means drones to see what is on the ground.
There's 150 or so people missing.
The recovery of them was imperative.
And if you had the ground game, a lot more people would have been found to this point.
And she now wants $50 million for her own private jet.
Let's spend that money and give it back to the states to help these people find their loved ones.
This is entirely, it's not America anymore.
When you're cutting funds to help American citizens try to get through these disasters, and they are disasters, and there's going to be more in Florida because I spend a lot of time in Florida in the winter.
They haven't even recovered since last year's hurricane.
They're going to cut FEMA.
Come on, come on, America, smarten up.
This is just a whitewash of what's going on with this administration.
They don't want people to see what's going on.
kimberly adams
So, Jeanette, if you don't mind, I'd like to read you something that Christy Noam has said about the administration's response to Texas and get your response.
This is a story in Fox News.
Trump administration's Texas flood disaster response fundamentally different from Biden's approach, according to Noam.
Federal assistance deployed immediately to empower state and local officials.
Homeland Security Secretary Christy Noam said Saturday that the federal response to the deadly floods in Texas Hill Country last weekend was a good indication of the improved disaster response the Trump administration is committed to providing.
And I'll jump down to the quote, which says: What you saw from our response in Texas is going to be a lot of how President Donald Trump envisions what the Federal Emergency Management Agency would look like in the future.
Noam said during a news conference Saturday.
We did things in Texas in response very different from Joe Biden.
And this is the idea that they are letting the states take more of an immediate response and coming in later.
What are your thoughts on that?
unidentified
Well, okay, for one thing, the state has no money.
We in Vermont have had floods.
We got a lot of money from FEMA.
Right now, the funds are getting cut off here from FEMA.
So don't talk about Joe Biden because he funded FEMA to the top and the maximum.
She needed to sign off, as I had just said previously.
She waited to sign off for money.
Now the money has to wait for Christy Noam to get dispersed to the people.
Come on, just look at it.
She's not competent.
She's not competent to have this job.
There's incompetency to the uppermost echelon of this administration.
Folks, please, please read about this.
It's all a fact.
I'm not getting this from the government.
It's for the people.
It's for our citizens.
kimberly adams
John is in Minco, Oklahoma, on our line for Republicans.
Good morning, John.
unidentified
Good morning.
My comment: I've grown up between two major rivers that have flooded, that flooded for years.
I'm 76 years old.
They need to go after and repair, which they need to build little ponds, dikes.
The South Canadian River is one of the longest rivers.
It originates in northwestern New Mexico and used to flood horrendously.
And now it's a nice, calm river.
kimberly adams
And, John, who do you think should pay for those changes and upgrades to build in some resiliency and protection from flooding?
unidentified
Well, it ought to be partially the people get to decide if it's on their property, kind of where it is.
But it needs to be kind of both federal and state.
Probably the Department Department of Agriculture ought to have a lot to do with it.
It's just if I could make a solution, I mean, I could fix this.
kimberly adams
Okay.
Next up is Robert in Atlantic City, New Jersey on our line for Democrats.
Good morning, Robert.
unidentified
Hello.
Shipping our manufacturing to China where they have no EPA and they're opening 100 coal plants a year and then shipping it across the ocean and then putting on trains to go to the Northeast, it's contributed more to climate change than, but the environmental groups who get their tax-deductible write-offs from the billionaires that have multiplied from the cheap labor in China and no environmental controls don't talk about that.
They don't talk about the military-industrial complex and their massive impact on the environment.
And it's really a shame because it's like a big look over here, not over there.
And what the Biden, what Biden's response in western North Carolina, I think was on par with Trump's in Texas, too, as well.
So that's my comment.
kimberly adams
Next up is Sherry in Silver Spring, Maryland on our line for independence.
Good morning, Sherry.
unidentified
Good morning.
I just had a comment that because of sudden changes, I think this is the result of the Texas disaster was because of climate change, meaning sudden changes in the climate.
And my suggestion is that because of things going on underground and above the air, such as the hydraulic fracturing, and even I heard that there was cloud seeding that may have caused the rainfall because of those things, when the children...
kimberly adams
What did you see about cloud seeding playing a role in the Texas...
unidentified
I heard that.
I knew you were going to ask that.
I heard something about that on YouTube online, but I didn't quite understand it.
But it's someone experimenting with making it rain in dry areas.
kimberly adams
I do want to address that, Sherry, because that's, I think, an important point.
But it does not seem like that is true.
Although cloud seeding is a technology that exists, there's a story here in TechCrunch.
A cloud seeding startup did not cause the Texas floods in the late 19th century.
unidentified
No, I didn't say it caused it.
I didn't say it caused it.
But even where I live, you notice the ground is sink.
The ground everywhere seems to be getting lower.
Because flooding, there was flooding in many places that I saw.
But my question was, where was the all-night person that watches the camp all night while everybody is asleep, even though nobody would, you know, just a volunteer that sits there all night and watch for security.
And if anything looks a little strange, can make some noise and let's wake people up and let them know that this rain is kind of heavy.
So I'm not blaming anyone, but can we do better on that?
Just have somebody watching the camp.
And I'm not saying that didn't happen, but that's all I wanted to say.
And I appreciate your comment, too, on the cloud seeding.
kimberly adams
Yes, just to give you a little bit more information about it, just for the benefit of everyone, the TechCrunch article says, it's true that Rainmaker, which is a startup, was operating in that area a few days before the storm.
But despite online chatter, cloud seeding had nothing to do with the floods, said Katja Friedrich, an atmospheric scientist at the University of Colorado Boulder.
It's just a complete conspiracy theory.
Someone is looking for somebody to blame, said Bob Rauber, a professor of atmospheric sciences at the University of Illinois.
So it does seem like that is not a direct contributor to the floods, at least.
Next up is Arthur in Otica, Michigan on our line for Republicans.
Good morning, Arthur.
Can you turn down the volume on your TV, please, and then go ahead?
unidentified
Okay, good morning.
Yeah, I got three things to say.
One thing is that woman from Vermont, she did also say, you know, Biden only gave the, FEMA only gave these people $750.
kimberly adams
You're talking about the immediate short-term assistance after a disaster hits.
But there is more longer-term funding available through FEMA for disaster victims.
But go ahead.
unidentified
Okay.
And also, this is the anniversary of Butler when President Trump was there.
I understand.
kimberly adams
I've seen it on the news that— Arthur, I need you to turn down the volume on your TV, and then I want you to finish quickly because we're about done with the show.
Oh, we lost him.
All right, well, let's go with Doug in Watertown, New York on our line for Democrats.
Good morning, Doug.
unidentified
Good morning.
How are you?
kimberly adams
Fine, thank you.
unidentified
Seems like the theme of this whole show can be summed up in one word, responsibility.
Who is responsible for what?
When I see this flooding all over and money being needed to rescue people, to rehabilitate lands and so on, how much insurance is being paid to do all this?
And private insurance.
And doesn't insurance cost more if you build in a floodplain?
And isn't there danger if you're building a floodplain?
When it comes to responsibility, we only have so much money, and it seems like we have no money if we owe $35 trillion in debt.
Who's responsible for us not having that much money?
Somebody said that rich people start things in China and make a lot of money from that and then send it here so they can make a lot of money.
Well, are they responsible for taking away from what we have to help everybody?
kimberly adams
Okay.
Well, thank you, Doug, and to everyone else who called in for Washington Journal today.
That's it for our show, but we will be back with another episode of the show tomorrow morning, starting at 7 a.m. Eastern.
We hope you'll join us then and have a great day.
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