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March 14, 2025 15:19-15:26 - CSPAN
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Washington Journal Nadia Schadlow
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greta brawner
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mark rutte
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melanie stansbury
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melanie stansbury
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unidentified
Thank you.
Coming up, President Trump will speak at the Justice Department in Washington, D.C. amid mass layoffs and demotions at the department.
We'll have live coverage when it gets underway here on C-SPAN.
greta brawner
This morning is she's a foreign policy senior fellow at the Hudson Institute and also former deputy national security advisor for strategy with the first Trump administration.
Nadia Shadlow here to talk about the future of NATO and Trump foreign policy agenda.
Let's begin with the headline on Ukraine and Russia.
This is from CBS News.
Vladimir Putin backs Trump's push for Ukraine's ceasefire in principle, but says there are issues to discuss with the United States.
Nadia Shadlow, what do you think about your reaction to the Russian president saying there are issues that need to be worked out?
What's the strategy here?
melanie stansbury
Hi, Greta.
unidentified
Well, it's great to be here.
Thanks so much.
Well, you know, I think that the devil is in the details, right?
I think yesterday was a great sign.
The meeting between the new NATO Secretary General Mark Rute and President Trump went really well, I think.
You know, you really saw a lot of personal rapport, which, as we know, with the president, that's important.
You saw enthusiasm for NATO and for what the Europeans are doing in terms of increasing their contributions to NATO, which has been a key theme of President Trump since his first term, and it's continued into his second term.
And you saw, I think, what Secretary of State Marco Rubio said, which is essentially, you know, now it's in Russia's court.
Now it's up to Russia in many ways to respond and to do its part in creating a sustainable ceasefire.
Now, whether or not that happens, that's the question, right?
I mean, President Trump and his team are not naive about this.
They understand that the details will matter.
The Europeans and the Ukrainians are concerned, as far as I understand, that a ceasefire means time for Russia to regroup, to attack again.
So we want to avoid that, and we want to set conditions to avoid that.
But overall, I was encouraged yesterday by the turn of events, and it's pretty remarkable how different things look, you know, a week after the initial, you know, a week or 10 days after the initial Oval Office blow-up with President Zelensky.
greta brawner
Speaking of Zelensky, the Ukrainian president reacted to Putin's response saying that this is typical and he's slow walking this.
Ukraine has agreed immediately to this 30-day ceasefire, but by not doing the same, the Ukrainian president is arguing that Russia is just dragging its feet to no.
unidentified
We'll see.
I think it's important to see how things play out.
As I said, I think the Americans are really committed to working to find a deal that is sustainable, that will hold in the long term.
The Russians right now, I think, are waiting.
They want, as far as I understand, to see a complete secession of aid to Ukraine to prevent the Ukrainians from regrouping should Russia continue its aggression.
So I think we'll see all of these details play out, hopefully behind the scenes, which is really where negotiations should take place.
Although, of course, obviously I understand the public side of negotiations also creates a set of conditions that's important too.
But yeah, I think we just need to wait and see and know that now at least the Ukrainians, the Russians, and the Americans are talking and the Europeans are doing the planning that they should be doing to create a sustainable settlement as well.
greta brawner
And those negotiations are taking place.
The President's special envoy Steve Witkoff at the Kremlin, here's a headline from the New York Times.
Vladimir Putin met with the U.S. envoy in Moscow.
The diplomatic efforts signaled that Russia was keen to keep negotiating with the United States about a ceasefire in Ukraine.
You mentioned the alliance, the NATO alliance, and the leader of that at the White House yesterday with the President.
I want to show our viewers a portion of what the NATO Secretary General had to say to President Trump and the media ahead of their one-on-one meeting.
unidentified
You originated the fact that in Europe we are now spending, when you take it to aggregate, 700 billion more on defense than when you came in office in 2016, 2017.
But that was Trump 45.
But then when you look at Trump 47, what happened the last couple of weeks is really staggering.
The Europeans committing to a package of 800 billion defense spending.
The Germans now and potentially up to half a trillion extra in defense spending.
And then of course you had Kier Starmer here, the British Prime Minister and others all committing to much higher defense spending.
We're not there.
We need to do more.
mark rutte
But I really want to work together with you in a run-up to the DeHague Summit to make sure that we will have a NATO which is really reinvigorated under your leadership.
unidentified
And we are getting there.
And we also discuss defense production because we need to produce more weaponry.
We are not doing enough.
And not in the US, not in Europe.
And we are lacking behind when you compare to the Russians and the Chinese.
And you have a huge defense industrial base.
mark rutte
Europeans buying four times more here than the other way around, which is good because you have a strong defense industry.
unidentified
But we need to do more there to make sure that we are hand-buttoning the production and kill the red tape.
So I would love to work with you on that.
And finally, Ukraine, you broke the deadlock.
As you said, all the killing, the young people dying, cities getting destroyed.
mark rutte
The fact that you did that, that you started the dialogue with the Russians, and the successful talks in Saudi Arabia now with the Ukrainians.
unidentified
I really want to commend you for that.
Hello, everybody.
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