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Right here. | |
| This is not beatable. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| The only way we lose is if we quit. | ||
| The only way we don't have victory, if we surrender. | ||
| The only way that they win is we retreat and we're not going to retreat. | ||
| We're not going to surrender. | ||
| We're not going to quit. | ||
| Fight, fight, fight. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| You are amazing. | ||
| You've honored every patriot in this country, every patriot grave. | ||
| You've honored them through your agency. | ||
| This is all you. | ||
| Tesla CEO Elon Musk talked about his efforts to slash government spending as head of President Trump's Department of Government Efficiency. | ||
| This is from the Conservative Political Action Conference in Maryland's National Harbor. | ||
| We've got we've got one more We've got one more surprise. | ||
| In case this wasn't enough, I'm going to let Elon do it. | ||
| Who else is here? | ||
| Well, President Millay has a gift for me. | ||
| Javier Millay from Argentina. | ||
| You guys know who that is, right? | ||
| Why don't we bring him out now? | ||
| The chainsaw for bureaucracy! | ||
| Third saw! | ||
| Alright. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Mr. President, thank you so much. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Great to be here. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| We love it. | ||
| We love it. | ||
| All right. | ||
| They told me to put this right here. | ||
| They want it right here. | ||
| All right, great. | ||
|
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A little stage prop. | |
| All of you guys suit. | ||
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unidentified
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Thanks, guys. | |
| Have a seat. | ||
| So, uh. | ||
| I know something. | ||
| I am become meme. | ||
| Yeah, pretty much. | ||
| I'm just, I'm just living the meme. | ||
| It's like there's living the dream and there's living the meme. | ||
| And it's pretty much what's happening, you know. | ||
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You're like, I think you're big. | |
| I mean, Doge started out as a meme. | ||
| Think about it. | ||
| And now it's real. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
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It is crazy. | |
| But it's cool. | ||
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Let me ask you this. | |
| A year ago, if someone had told you you'd be at CPAC and working with the president to absolutely shred the government, the swamp, whatever you want to call it, would you ever believe that? | ||
| No. | ||
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No. | |
| Me neither. | ||
| But it's cool. | ||
| This is awesome. | ||
| And I just want to say, you know, thanks for your support. | ||
| I mean, guys are. | ||
| So, I mean, we're trying to get good things done, but also, like, you know, have a good time doing it and have like a sense of humor, you know? | ||
| So, like, I mean, the left wanted to make comedy illegal, you know? | ||
| You can't make fun of anything. | ||
| So it was like, comedy sucks. | ||
| It's like, nothing's funny. | ||
| You can't make fun of anything. | ||
| It's like, legalize comedy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Legalize comedy. | ||
|
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And we've shifted the entire culture in just the last few months. | |
| The whole culture of this country has shifted dramatically just because of that election. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| You know, freedom of speech, having fun again, it seems like we should have a good time, you know? | ||
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I mean, it's a great time. | |
| Everybody in this place is so excited. | ||
| And I haven't, I mean, when you talk to conservatives, everybody's happy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And everybody feels this great sense of relief because we were going to hell for about four years. | ||
| It really felt bad, especially toward the end. | ||
| It felt really bad. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I thought we were sort of heading for a point of no return, really. | ||
| Until that's why it was so essential that President Trump win the election and that there be a Republican majority in the House and Senate, which thanks to you, that has been accomplished. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I want to ask you, one of the biggest questions I have for you is, you've been, you know, politically, you weren't really on one side or the other for a long time. | ||
| You're a businessman. | ||
| A lot of people stay away from it. | ||
| Now you're on a side, and you've chosen to side. | ||
| You're sitting here in a MAGA hat. | ||
| How did that happen? | ||
| What was the moment? | ||
| It's like dark gothic MAGA. | ||
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That's a good one. | |
| Was there a specific moment? | ||
| Was there a moment that it all changed? | ||
| Yeah, when I realized I was a fool. | ||
| But no, it was, I guess, yeah, I mean, I'd say like I was politically neutral for quite a while. | ||
| You know, leaning a little Democrat. | ||
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How do you go from that to this? | |
| Yeah, no, no. | ||
|
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Did they go crazy? | |
| Yeah, they did go crazy. | ||
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Yeah, they went crazy. | |
| Yeah, I mean, that whole cancel culture and, you know, it's trying to stuff freedom of speech and infringe upon, just in general, infringe upon people's personal freedoms. | ||
| You know, they just want state control, state control of what you say. | ||
| They want to, you know, take away your guns. | ||
| And the reason they want to take away your guns, so there's nothing you do to oppose them. | ||
| So it's sort of like, you know, I just like, we just need to restore the fundamental elements of what made America great, which is freedom and opportunity. | ||
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We're seeing a lot of these freedoms disappearing in the West. | |
| It's not just about America. | ||
| We're all watching Europe and knowing that they're about 50, 100 years ahead of us, right? | ||
| Because they got an early start. | ||
| And we're watching how they're devolving. | ||
| And you're trying to save it from happening here. | ||
| I mean, in Europe, they put people in prison for memes. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You know, I'm like, that's insane. | ||
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And they're collapsing. | |
| I mean, this society is, it's a collapsing society. | ||
| It feels that way. | ||
| It feels like... | ||
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France was nicer 50 years ago than it is today. | |
| Yeah, I don't think you can question that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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So, but, yeah, I mean, really. | |
| Thanks. | ||
| Oh, me too. | ||
| I mean. | ||
| I really just wanted to do useful things, like, you know, basically build products, you know, provide products and services that are good. | ||
| And I wasn't really that interested in being political. | ||
| It just, like, there was, at a certain point, no choice. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, yeah. | ||
|
unidentified
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Can I ask you what it, on the same side of that coin, what's it like from going neutral to being vilified, largely vilified by the media? | |
| What? | ||
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unidentified
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No. | |
| Really? | ||
| I mean. | ||
| You turn on some of these channels, brother. | ||
| I mean, they're angry. | ||
| Does it bother you at all, does it get to you? | ||
| I mean, when they're chanting for my death, I suppose that's a little, you know. | ||
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Not good. | |
| The song's not even that good. | ||
| It's like, like, you call that a death chant? | ||
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unidentified
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That's nothing. | |
| Please. | ||
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They've been singing a lot of it. | |
| It's not even good music. | ||
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There's a lot of music lately. | |
| It's not good music either. | ||
| I would say that watching what you're doing with Doge is just people love it. | ||
| I mean, I've always looked at the government and I've always looked at the government. | ||
| I've seen this big machine that, and you just know that they waste because they don't care. | ||
| There's more money coming. | ||
| They don't care. | ||
| You're cutting all this out. | ||
| Everybody in this country knows that the government is full of waste, fraud, and abuse. | ||
| And you're doing the work and the Americans love it. | ||
| Watching their reaction politically to this, I can't believe how bad they are at responding to this. | ||
| I don't know how you're going to sit there and scream and complain because they're cutting waste out of the government and try to win another election. | ||
| How do you try to win on that? | ||
| Well, at this point, I'm like, I'm not sure how much of the left is even real. | ||
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How much was propped up by our money? | |
| Yeah, like literally, you see these sort of fake rallies where there's hardly any people, and the media will frame it and get all six people in the frame, but there's like nobody else is there. | ||
| It doesn't have popular support. | ||
| But then you learn that there's hundreds of billions of dollars going to these so-called NGOs. | ||
| And it's your tax dollars that are funding things that are fundamentally anti-American. | ||
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And they're propping up their narrative. | |
| A lot of that government money has been propping up a left that I don't think is as strong as they made it seem. | ||
| In fact, a massive amount of your tax dollars is going to legacy media companies directly from the government. | ||
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The government wants to take over media. | |
| Yeah, it's terrible. | ||
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unidentified
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That's why we have X. | |
| Yeah, and that's why you spent $44 billion. | ||
| I mean, there's a lot of money. | ||
| I mean... | ||
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More than it was probably worth. | |
| But there was a message. | ||
| Freedom is priceless. | ||
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Priceless. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Probably one of the most important investments this country's ever seen. | ||
| If you've got to protect the First Amendment, it's not much more important than that. | ||
| Yeah, I got a lot of criticism, and people said, well, that privacy is a huge idiot from a, you know, like, look, you know, you voted for whatever, $44 billion, and now it's worth like $0.8 cents. | ||
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It's not worth $0.8. | |
| But it was essentially to by freedom of expression. | ||
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And once that's gone, it's all over. | |
| Yeah, I mean, like, you know, so all of all the sort of federal money going to media companies is what helps explain why the legacy media all says the same thing at the same time. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, isn't it like it's like weird? | ||
| Like you can put them up with like, you know, like when they're mouthpieces for the state. | ||
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For the state. | |
| Yes. | ||
| And that's that's what we've come to know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Scary. | |
| And I like that mean where they're, because they're always saying like threat to our democracy, threat to, but if you just replaced democracy with bureaucracy, it makes a lot of sense. | ||
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It makes perfect sense. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Big threat to the bureaucracy. | ||
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unidentified
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That's exactly right. | |
| Let's talk about these Doge dividend checks that everybody's talking about this week. | ||
| And I know you tweeted out that you're going to, does everybody want like a $5,000 check in the mail? | ||
| It sounds kind of good, right? | ||
| And the best part about it would be knowing where it came from, that that's five grand that you sent them last year. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| It's money that's taken away from things that are destructive to the country and from organizations that hate you to you. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
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Does it seem like, I mean, have you talked to me? | |
| I mean, that's like glorious. | ||
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That's like the spoils of battle, you know? | |
| I like that. | ||
| Is there traction on that? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I talked to the president, he's supportive of that. | ||
| And so it sounds like that's something we're going to do. | ||
| So as we're finding savings, that's going to translate directly to reductions in tax. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, I think they fired 6,000 people at the IRS today. | ||
| And I think Lutnick said last night that they're talking about shutting down the IRS. | ||
| And I think it's fair. | ||
| I think people should realize this is, I mean, the amount of money that we send Washington like five or six trillion a year, that is such an ungodly amount of money. | ||
| I mean, what are they doing? | ||
| They say like a trillion seconds is like 30 years or something like that. | ||
| I mean, that's how much we send them, and they seem to never have enough. | ||
| There must be a lot you can cut. | ||
| No, no, absolutely. | ||
| People ask me, what's the most surprising thing that you've encountered when you go to DC, you know, when you're in D.C. | ||
| And I said, well, the most surprising thing is the scale of the expenditures and actually how easy it is to, just when you add caring and competence where it was absent before, you can actually save billions of dollars, sometimes in an hour. | ||
| It's wild. | ||
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And then they scoff at it and say, oh, a few billion here, there. | |
| I mean, the way they're talking about it, you can see they don't care. | ||
| It's such little money compared to how much they're used to wasting. | ||
| That's what's really scary. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I mean, exactly. | ||
| But obviously, it just shows that they really lack empathy for the average taxpayer who's working hard, paying taxes, and then they say, oh, a million dollars doesn't matter. | ||
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I'm like, I think it matters a lot for people, you know? | |
| So what are you talking about? | ||
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I'd like to have it. | |
| Let me ask you a question. | ||
| I know the president fairly well, watched him survive two assassination attempts. | ||
| Had the first one not happened, the second one would have gotten him. | ||
| It's not mind-blowing that this has happened. | ||
| By the way, why do we still learn nothing about that guy in Butler? | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| But cash is going to get to the bottom of it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There you go. | ||
| By the way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Confirmed, confirmed just a couple hours ago, but I saw that the security detail that you had come in is enormous. | ||
| Well, it's not that enormous. | ||
| Maybe it should be Vega. | ||
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I think you could probably afford it. | |
| But I mean, how concerned are you about your safety, Dylan? | ||
| I mean, you are a wanted man. | ||
| Are you nervous? | ||
| So look, I'm open to ideas for improving security, I have to tell you. | ||
| Like, I don't actually have a death wish, I think. | ||
| But, you know, it's not that easy. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| I mean, but I have like I've had even like people like President Bukelier from El Salvador who managed to put in prison like 100,000 murderous thugs. | ||
| And he was like, he called me, he's like, I'm worried about your security. | ||
| I'm like, you're worried about my security? | ||
| I'm like, what? | ||
| Okay. | ||
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I mean, yeah, talk about guts to do that down there. | |
| I mean, and survive. | ||
| I was like, how did you put all those thugs in prison without dying? | ||
| Because it seems like that would have been not easy, you know. | ||
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Well, the president has, one of his top attorneys is now investigating, I guess, Chuck Schumer for threats against SCOTUS, a congressman on the Democrat side, who's saying, you know, basically saying we're going to bring a war to you, like a fight to you. | |
| I mean, the rhetoric, you guys are screwing with things that are not supposed to be messed with. | ||
| We're fighting the Matrix. | ||
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There's a lot of people that really don't want that to happen. | |
| Yeah, we're fighting the Matrix big time here. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| But it has got to be done. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And it certainly does. | |
| What's going on with, tell us about Fort Knox. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Kentucky, it's a military base. | ||
| It's a ton of gold, tons and tons and tons of gold. | ||
| 5,000 tons of gold or something. | ||
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5,000 gold are there in the ground in like this. | |
| I mean, it's a very secure thing. | ||
| We all want to see it. | ||
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I'd love to see it. | |
| Like, this is your gold, by the way. | ||
| It's the public's gold. | ||
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unidentified
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Do you think it's not there? | |
| I don't know. | ||
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We just want to see it. | |
| Yeah, we want to go see it and just make sure somebody did a spray paint some lead or something, you know? | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| Like, is this real gold? | ||
| Invite the bar, you know? | ||
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Didn't dance. | |
| But I think, honestly, you know, part of this also is it's like, you know, let's have some fun. | ||
| And, you know, like, like I said, all this gold at Fort Knox, it's the public's gold. | ||
| It's your gold. | ||
| So like, I think you have like a right to see it. | ||
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You want to take a tour? | |
| You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think we should have a tour. | ||
| And then the president last night was like, I think he's in favor of it. | ||
| That would be cool. | ||
| And then we'd like, it should be like a live tour. | ||
| Like you can see what's going on. | ||
| Open the door. | ||
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Like what's behind it. | |
| You know, I think I'd watch that. | ||
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unidentified
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Oh, are you kidding? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, what is 5,000 tons of gold? | ||
| How big is that? | ||
| Is it the size of this? | ||
| It's got to be pretty big, you know? | ||
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It's got to be a lot of good stuff. | |
| Maybe there's some other stuff in there. | ||
| Like just walk around, like, I don't know, maybe they've got some other stuff in there. | ||
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Are you thinking about auditing the Federal Reserve as well, which is obviously kind of a regulatory economy? | |
| I imagine you think the waste has got to be everywhere. | ||
| Yeah, no, waste is pretty much everywhere. | ||
| People ask, like, how can you find waste in DC? | ||
| I'm like, look, it's like being in a room and this target, the wall, the roofs, and the floor are all targets. | ||
| So it's like, you're going to close your eyes and go shoot in any direction. | ||
| You can't miss. | ||
| So it's pretty wild. | ||
| Like, you just push on things a little bit and you save billions of dollars. | ||
| Like, just a little bit, you know? | ||
| It's wild. | ||
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It's scary, isn't it? | |
| It's really. | ||
| That's why I say, like, it really is underrated. | ||
| If you add caring and competence, how much things improve. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, you know, and we just find so many totally crazy things, which, you know, obviously we're sharing with the public. | ||
| We post everything we learn. | ||
| You know, just you know, so you can see it, you know. | ||
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What do you, I mean, and like it's like, isn't it like it's totally wild? | |
| Like, we did just, we just did like a check the database on Social Security, like says, how many Americans, alive Americans eligible for Social Security are there? | ||
| And according to the database, it's over 400 million. | ||
| And we're like, wait a second. | ||
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And how many are you? | |
| How old are you again? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then we found like one person in there is like 360 years old. | ||
| I'm like, what did they know, Ben? | ||
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100 years ago? | |
| I mean, you know, America didn't exist before that time. | ||
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Yeah, we were politics. | |
| You know, maybe it's just me, but I think it's a red flag. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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But are there indications that there were checks going to those people or any of those people? | |
| Well, yes, I guess the question, right? | ||
| I mean, I get the Social Security Administration is dumb, but are they paying these people? | ||
| Are they that dumb? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| A bunch of money is going out from the Social Security Administration. | ||
| And in fact, from all entitlements programs. | ||
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$75 billion in waste in like seven years. | |
| That's $10 billion a year. | ||
| Well, I think the rough estimate from General Government Accountability Office is over $500 billion of fraud a year. | ||
| $500 billion. | ||
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And how long of a time? | |
| Per year. | ||
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Per year? | |
| On Social Security? | ||
| No, no. | ||
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unidentified
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On all government. | |
| On all entitlements? | ||
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All entitlements. | |
| All entitlements, yeah. | ||
| It sort of actually makes sense when you look at the thing from a top level and say, like, okay, the $7 trillion was spending by the government. | ||
| What percentage do you think is fraudulent? | ||
| Okay, exactly. | ||
| Like, a conservative estimate of the $7 trillion would be 10%. | ||
| Conservative. | ||
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Probably a little higher than that, yeah. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| It feels like a quarter of every dollar, right? | ||
| But if the fraud's only 10% of $7 trillion, you've got $700 billion of fraud. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And by the way, it's like really easy to take advantage of the federal government. | ||
| It's very easy. | ||
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Very easy. | |
| Look at COVID. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Everybody got rich during COVID. | |
| I mean, look at all these skills. | ||
| I mean, it's unbelievable. | ||
| It looks like in terms of the COVID payments, there was something like $200 billion of COVID payment fraud taken by fraudsters out of the country. | ||
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Out of the country, yeah. | |
| That's like, I think, listen, if there's going to be fraud, it should at least be domestic. | ||
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So, you know. | |
| But they managed to get $200 billion out of the country. | ||
| I'm like, what? | ||
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Didn't we notice that? | |
| Let me ask you, let's do immigration here for a second. | ||
| You know, there's this move now that Trump's latest thing is that he's going to cut funding any kind of money that ends up in the hands of illegal immigrants. | ||
| So if you're funding these sanctuary cities and states, that's how they thrive, right? | ||
| They're paying for these hotels. | ||
| That's all federal money. | ||
| If you've got a hotel in your city in New York, you've got all these hotels full of migrants. | ||
| That's not state money. | ||
| That's the feds are covering that. | ||
| He's going to cut all that. | ||
| It's really hard to deport 15 million people. | ||
| And it seems like the move now is, let's see if we, especially at the rate that we're going, it seems like the move now is, let's make it so that they leave on their own. | ||
| If there's no longer a dole system for them, if they can't get their hands on hotel rooms and money, they're going to go back, especially if there's no work. | ||
| Well, I think it's really important for people to understand that the Biden administration sent any possible money that they could, if there was money they could send to facilitate and amplify illegal immigration, they sent it. | ||
| They took money from FEMA, meant for helping Americans in distress, and sent that money to luxury hotels for legal immigrants in New York. | ||
| That is an outrage. | ||
| They actually did that. | ||
| And not only that, even after the president signed an executive order saying it has to stop, the female, the sort of whatever, deep state bureaucrats still pressed send on $80 million last week to go to the Roosevelt Hotel in New York and other places last week. | ||
| And now they're mad that it got stuffed. | ||
| and they're like trying to sue to have it be restored. | ||
| It's like the gumption isn't unreal. | ||
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You think they're creating a new voter class? | |
| Would you think that was the goal when they opened up the borders for four years? | ||
| Create a new voter class and get them citizenship, get them in. | ||
| Yeah, vote. | ||
| A lot of these things, like you don't actually have to assume some grand conspiracy. | ||
| You just need to look at basic incentives. | ||
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Who benefits? | |
| So if the incentives, fundamentally, if the probability that an illegal is going to vote Democrat at some point, whether it's cheating, but eventually they can become citizens. | ||
| But if the probability is like 80, 90%, just look at California, which is supermajority Dem, then the incentive is to maximize the number of illegals in the country. | ||
| That is why the Biden administration was pushing to get in as many illegals as possible and spend every dollar possible to get as many, because every one of them is a customer. | ||
| Everyone is a voter. | ||
| So the whole thing was a giant voter importation scam. | ||
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Pretty obvious. | |
| Very obvious. | ||
| And then, moreover, then they actually created the CVP1 voter app thing where they were, which is like where they would literally fly people in. | ||
| It's not like at the point at which people are being flown in at your expense. | ||
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Sending planes. | |
| Building a wall. | ||
| It doesn't fly them over the border. | ||
| They're literally flying them in. | ||
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No other country in the world would do something like this. | |
| Nobody is this stupid. | ||
| Yeah, and then we found that there was like a $100 million contract given to some guy in London, actually, oddly enough, for the CVP1 app. | ||
| So they're flying illegals into the swing states. | ||
| And if you've got like a margin of victory of maybe 20,000 people and you fly 200,000 illegals into that state, it's not going to be a swing state for long. | ||
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Change the numbers. | |
| Eventually. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe in four or eight years. | ||
| You're exactly the same. | ||
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It's a long game. | |
| It's just a matter of time. | ||
| So it might take like a year for an asylum seeker or something to get a green card and then five years for the citizenship. | ||
| It's an investment that is guaranteed to pay off. | ||
| Just a question of when. | ||
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They all remember who brought them in and who left them here. | |
| Exactly. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| I want to go back. | ||
| I want to talk about Biden's. | ||
| It's a big deal. | ||
| I think a lot of people don't quite appreciate that this was an actual real scam at scale to tilt the scales of democracy in America. | ||
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It's treasonous. | |
| Treason. | ||
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One more Biden question. | |
| I remember when they would do the electric car stuff, they would always try to box you out, even though you have the only electric car anybody wants. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You said, I think, this week, that you think that Biden left these astronauts up in space because he didn't want to give you an opportunity to save them, make NASA look bad, make the private sector look better, make you look good. | ||
| Do you believe that? | ||
| Yeah, no, absolutely. | ||
| So, of course. | ||
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I kind of agree. | |
| Why would he want to let you help them come down when you're supporting the president? | ||
| The Biden administration was attacking the next level. | ||
| I mean, the Department of Justice or Injustice under the Biden administration was, I mean, they were suing SpaceX. | ||
| They were suing SpaceX for not hiring asylum seekers. | ||
| And we're like, but it's actually illegal for us to hire asylum seekers because we're Rocket technology is covered under ITAR rules, which means it's an advanced weapons technology. | ||
| And so we can only hire permanent residents or orchestra citizens. | ||
| So we're damned if we do, we're damned if we don't. | ||
| So how can they sue us for not hiring asylum seekers when it's actually illegal for us to do so? | ||
| But nonetheless, there was a big Department of Justice or Injustice case about this against SpaceX. | ||
| So obviously it was an antagonistic situation. | ||
| And those astronauts were supposed to be up there for eight days and now they're up there for eight months. | ||
| Does that make any sense? | ||
| And we obviously could have brought them back sooner, but they didn't want anyone who supported President Trump to look good, basically. | ||
| That's the issue. | ||
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A lot of them are saying right now that the reason that you want to get into Social Security, that you want to get into all of these different into Treasury and things like that, is that you're looking for personal information and you're trying to make more money. | |
| I've never met anybody as rich as you that cared less about money in my life. | ||
| Every time I hear a story about you, you're sleeping on a couch of some other guy in a city that you could buy the entire thing. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think you care about money, do you? | ||
| No, actually, I mean, listen, like, if I steal some Social Security, I can finally buy nice things. | ||
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And on that same question, they're also talking about you guys are going to end Social Security, you're going to end Medicare, you're going to end these things. | |
| I don't imagine that conversation has been had with the President, and that's the plan. | ||
| No, in fact, the actions that we're taking with the support of the president and the support of the agencies is what will save Medicare, what will save Social Security. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because if the country goes insolvent, if all the money is just spent on paying interest on debt, there's no money left for anything. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So that's the reason I'm doing this is because I was looking at the big picture here and it's like, man, our debt's getting out of control. | ||
| The interest payments, the interest on the national debt now exceeds the entire Defense Department budget. | ||
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A trillion a year. | |
| Interest just to carry the money that we owe is a trillion a year. | ||
| That is unbelievable. | ||
| And rising rapidly. | ||
| A country is no different from a person. | ||
| Country overspends, country goes bankrupt, same as a person who overspends goes bankrupt. | ||
| So it's not like optional to solve these things. | ||
| It's essential. | ||
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We're going to go bankrupt. | |
| Yes, we are. | ||
| A couple minutes left here. | ||
| Russia. | ||
| There's a huge push from the US. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| People like Sonic. | ||
| I'm a bought asset of Putin. | ||
| I'm like, he can't afford me. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think you're worth more than Russia. | ||
| Think about it. | ||
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So you're trying to end a war. | |
| Ending a war always means you have to compromise, you have to negotiate with an enemy or an adversary. | ||
| That's just what it is. | ||
| And right now, they are lambasting the president for trying a different method to a war that they haven't been able to end for three and a half years or three years. | ||
| They're saying Trump's blaming Zelensky for the invasion. | ||
| How do you process all of the negativity toward him for trying to end this war? | ||
| Well, first of all, I think we should have empathy for the people dying at the front lines. | ||
| That's the most important thing. | ||
| And people have been dying. | ||
| It's like, how many more years is this supposed to go on? | ||
| And imagine if that was your son, your father. | ||
| What are they dying for? | ||
| What exactly are they dying for? | ||
| The line of engagement has barely moved for two years. | ||
| This is a whole bunch of people dead in trenches for what? | ||
| And I'll tell you what for what. | ||
| It's like for the biggest graft machine that I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| That's for what? | ||
| It's unreal. | ||
| Like the amount of money that is being taken in graft and bribery is disgusting. | ||
| And so what's actually happening is that those poor guys are getting sent into a meat grinder for money. | ||
| That's what's actually going on. | ||
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and needs to stop and that's I mean that's it seems I mean Trump is so pragmatic on this it just He's just looking at it and he's saying it's Ukraine, it's not our country, it's not a NATO ally. | |
| I just want to see people not dying. | ||
| I want to see on both sides. | ||
| I mean, think about how many young, so many young men have died in Ukraine that the army is starting to age out. | ||
| The military is aging out. | ||
| You've got 40 and 50-year-old guys fighting in a war because there's nobody left that's not killed or maimed in their 20s. | ||
| That's the reality of it. | ||
| Think about how many people that is. | ||
| If you're a humanitarian at all, you just got to end the war. | ||
| Like, no matter what. | ||
| Just get it over with. | ||
| Yes, they need to stop dying. | ||
| And the growth machine's got to stop. | ||
| And I think people, a lot of people out there don't realize, like, the president has a lot of empathy. | ||
| He really cares. | ||
| He's a good man. | ||
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I got one more for you. | |
| I've been fascinated by you for a very long time. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
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I've never seen anybody that can do so many things at the same time. | |
| I mean, you've got the rockets, you've got the cars. | ||
| I've always wanted to ask you, what is it like inside your mind? | ||
| Is it just 1,000 miles an hour? | ||
| I mean, are you... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Is it just not... | |
| I mean, does it ever stop? | ||
| Do you sleep? | ||
| How much do you sleep? | ||
| Paint us a picture of inside of the mind of a genius. | ||
| Like, how do you do all this? | ||
| Can you answer that question? | ||
| It's not an easy question. | ||
| I mean, my mind is a storm. | ||
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So it's a storm. | |
| But, I mean, let me tell you something. | ||
| Like, you didn't ask the question, but I think it's worth nonetheless, maybe just elaborating on something, which is, you know, I grew up in South Africa, but my morality was informed by America. | ||
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I read comic books, you know, played Dungeons and Dragons. | |
| And I watched American TV shows. | ||
| And it seemed like America cared about being the good guys, you know, about doing the right thing. | ||
| And that's actually pretty unusual, by the way. | ||
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In the world, it's very unusual. | |
| Yeah, it's not like actually. | ||
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Most countries don't do that. | |
| No, they don't. | ||
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No. | |
| And so I was like, yeah, you know, you want to be this good. | ||
| You want to be on the side of good. | ||
| You want to care about what's right. | ||
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And yeah, so that's what I believe in. | |
| I gave you a tough one at the end. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Elon Musk. | ||
| All right, thank you. | ||
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Thank you so much. I appreciate it. | |
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