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mimi geerges
Welcome back to Washington Journal.
We're joined now by Representative Bruce Westerman.
He's a Republican of Arkansas and chair of the Natural Resources Committee.
Congressman, welcome to the program.
unidentified
Good morning, Mimi.
Good to be with you.
mimi geerges
As I just said, you are the chair of the Natural Resources Committee.
Can you talk about your priorities in this Congress and your goals?
unidentified
Well, we've got a lot of work to do in this Congress.
And if you look at the jurisdiction of the Natural Resources Committee, a lot of that is energy and minerals.
So energy production and mining are going to be a huge part of the work that we do.
But we also have jurisdiction over federal lands and forestry, over fisheries.
We also have Indian and Insular Affairs.
So we've got a full workload, not to mention California water and wildlife and fisheries.
So lots of things will be on our plate.
But we had a good run last Congress.
We got a lot of bills passed and signed into law.
We got the Explore Act, which is the country's first outdoor recreation bill.
And this was a large bipartisan bill that was so popular it passed out of committee unanimously.
It passed out of the House unanimously.
And then it passed the Senate unanimously and President Biden signed it into law.
bruce westerman
So we're excited about outdoor recreation and access to public lands and meeting the growing needs of our country.
mimi geerges
You are the only licensed forester in Congress.
I want to ask you about the wildfires in California, but what does that mean to be a licensed forester?
bruce westerman
Well, I studied forestry in graduate school and there's actually a licensing process so you have to take an exam and do continuing education if you want to keep a license to practice forestry.
unidentified
I'm also, I did engineering for my undergraduate work and I'm a professional engineer and I've been able to keep those licenses up to speed while I'm here in Congress.
But it's kind of neat to, I think last Congress I was the only licensed professional engineer and the only forester in Congress.
I don't know why they say licensed forester.
I think I'm just quite simply the only forester, only person that studied forestry in Congress.
mimi geerges
So can you talk about your views of the California wildfires and noting that President Trump has departed the White House and will be surveying damage there in California later today?
unidentified
Well, these are obviously devastating if anybody's paid any attention to the news.
You know, it's just heartbreaking to see over 15,000 homes destroyed, 28 lives lost.
bruce westerman
And at last count, I think it was $250 billion of estimated damage.
unidentified
And it's very tough conditions out there.
I've spent time in Southern California.
I was out there in October flying over what was called the airport fire.
It didn't make near as much news because it didn't burn near as many homes.
But you have these steep canyons with water called forests, but it's really just chaparrill and kind of scrubby oak trees and brush.
It gets very dry, and you get these strong winds that come through.
And when these fires start, they're almost impossible to put out.
And, you know, fire traveling uphill is the when it burns the hottest.
If you think of a match and you strike it and hold it straight up, the flame's not very big, but if you point that flame down where it's running up the matchstick, you know, it'll burn your finger pretty quickly.
And that's kind of what happens when these fires are going up slope.
We're going to leave this here, but a reminder, you can watch.
bruce westerman
When you look at the whole situation, there are things that we can do.
unidentified
We know what happens when you get this dry fuel and wind and fires.
And we've got a lot of people living in what's called the wildland urban area.
donald j trump
Yeah, I thought I was going to California.
I said, no, no.
I'm stopping in North Carolina first because they've been abused by what's happened.
I mean, it's terrible.
It should have been done.
It should have been, a lot of things should have happened that didn't happen.
So we're here.
We're going to fix it out.
donald j trump [ai]
We're working with the gentleman behind me, and you know who they are, and we're going to fix it.
donald j trump
And we're going to fix it as fast as you can.
It's a massive amount of damage.
donald j trump [ai]
FEMA has really let us down, let the country down.
donald j trump
And I don't know if that's Biden's fault or whose fault it is, but we're going to take over and we're going to do a good job.
We're going to assign Mr. Watley, who's fantastic, frankly, and the governor and everybody else that's going to work.
We're going to supply the money, supply a lot of the money.
Maybe you have to chip in something.
You'll chip in a little something, like maybe 25% or whatever.
But we're going to get it done as quickly as we can.
And we want to take care of the people of North Carolina.
It's so interesting.
Everybody's talking about California, and that's a mess.
But I said, I'm not going to California until I stop in North Carolina.
So here we are.
We're going to go visit the site and we're going to work with probably three of the congressmen, Republican congressmen who've been fantastic, whose areas have been affected.
And with Michael Watley, the governor, and whoever else is, you know, we decide to get involved.
Probably less FEMA because FEMA just hasn't done the job.
And we're looking at the whole concept of FEMA.
I like, frankly, the concept when North Carolina gets hit, the governor takes care of it.
When Florida gets hit, the governor takes care of it, meaning the state takes care of it.
To have a group of people come in from an area that don't even know where they're going in order to solve immediately a problem is something that never worked for me.
But this is probably one of the best examples of it not working.
And there's been some others, like in Louisiana, etc.
So we're going to be doing something on FEMA that I think most people agree.
I'd like to see the states take care of disasters.
Let the state take care of the tornadoes and the hurricanes and all of the other things that happen.
And I think you're going to find it a lot less expensive.
You'll do it for less than half, and you're going to get a lot quicker response.
So that seems to be the recommendation, but we'll be making that recommendation over the next couple of weeks.
We're going to go to the site now, and we're going to figure out a plan for really demolition and cleaning, because not a lot's been done, and we're very disappointed in the Biden administration, but we're going to make up for lost time.
And I said I'd do that.
And this is about the earliest we could possibly be here.
And we're honored to be here.
This has been a great state.
They're great people, and they've really been mishandled.
But it's all, this group is going to be great, and we're going to get it taken care of.
Any questions?
unidentified
Do you expect to ask Congress for additional aid for North Carolina and California?
donald j trump
You'll be direct.
In other words, the aid will go through us.
So rather than going through FEMA, it will go through us.
And I think maybe this is a good place to start.
Because, and in all fairness to the governor, in all fairness to everybody else, FEMA was not on the ball.
And we're going to turn it all around.
Yes.
unidentified
A lot of Americans think that this is symbolic of what your campaign was all about.
America first, putting your priorities to Americans, even going to California where their policies might have been one of the biggest reasons why they've had these problems.
But you're putting American people first.
Your thoughts on that?
donald j trump
We are.
unidentified
Thank you.
donald j trump
I like that question.
Boy, I want more questions like that.
That's even a statement.
Thank you very much.
He's a good man, that guy.
And he's also a very professional reporter, I have to say.
Thank you very much.
Yeah, we're putting America first.
We're putting, in this case, North Carolina and California.
We're going to do a good job in California.
That is a disaster like, I don't know if we've ever seen anything like it, frankly.
They say the biggest in the history of California, I think, has anything bigger than that happened in the whole country ever.
It looks like, I don't want to say what it looks like, but you know what I'm going to say.
It looks like something hit it.
And we won't talk about what hit it.
But it is a bad, bad situation.
And I guess I'm going to meet with some government officials.
But, I mean, much more importantly, and in California, just to revert to it for a second, millions of gallons of water are waiting to be poured down through already the half pipes that are already built.
I mean, they've been up for 40 years.
And about 20 years ago, they turned off the water.
And it's the water that comes from the Pacific Northwest.
Some of it comes out of Canada.
And it flows there.
And it probably has flowed there for a million years.
And they turned it off and they routed out to the Pacific.
And in the meantime, you don't have water in the hydrants.
You don't have water in the sprinkler system.
It's the craziest thing I've ever seen.
And everyone's trying to figure out why aren't they turning it back.
They say it's the Delta smelt.
It's a fish, but I find that hard to believe.
But we'll figure it out.
And without doing that, you're going to continue to have problems.
unidentified
President, what are you prepared to do, sir, if OPEC doesn't respond to your call to cut oil prices?
donald j trump
Well, we want to see OPEC cut the price of oil, and that will automatically stop the tragedy that's taking place in Ukraine.
It's a butchering tragedy for both sides, by the way.
A tremendous number of Russian soldiers are dead, tremendous number of Ukrainian soldiers, and a lot of people are dead from the bombing of the cities.
But right now, it's just bullets whacking and hitting men, mostly men, almost in all cases men.
And over a million men are killed, and they're losing thousands of people a week.
It's crazy.
It's a crazy war, and it never would have happened if I was president.
It would never have happened.
This is crazy that it happened, but we want to stop it.
Now one way to stop it quickly is for OPEC to stop making so much money and to drop the price of oil because they have it nice and high and if you have it high that war is not going to end so easily.
So OPEC ought to get on the ball and they ought to drop the price of oil and that war will stop right away.
unidentified
Mr. President funding to Los Angeles because of its sanctuary city policy?
donald j trump
I want to see two things in Los Angeles.
Voter ID so that the people have a chance to vote.
And I want to see the water be released and come down into Los Angeles and throughout the state.
Those are the two things.
After that, I will be the greatest president that California has ever seen.
I want the water to come down and come down to Los Angeles and also go out to all the farmland that's barren and dry.
You know, they have land that they say is the equivalent of the land in Iowa, which is about as good as there is anywhere on earth.
The problem is it's artificial because they artificially stop the water from going onto the land.
So I want two things.
I want voter ID for the people of California and they all want it.
Right now you don't have voter ID.
People want to have voter identification.
You want to have proof of citizenship.
Ideally you have one day voting, but I just want voter ID as a start and I want the water to be released and they're going to get a lot of help from the U.S. Thank you very much.
I'll see you in a little while.
We'll see you at the site.
We'll see you at the site.
unidentified
Where are they going to?
donald j trump
Deportation is going very well.
We're getting the bad, hard criminals out.
These are murderers.
These are people that have been as bad as you get, as bad as anybody you've seen.
We're taking them out first.
Thank you.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you, Fred.
mimi geerges
We're back at Washington Journal, and we're joined now by Max Steyer.
He's president and CEO for the Partnership for Public Service.
We're talking about the overhaul of the federal workforce by the Trump administration.
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