Conspirituality - Bonus Sample: Luciano's Good Death Aired: 2022-10-24 Duration: 05:04 === Luciano's Classroom Vibe (04:32) === [00:00:04] Hello Conspirituality Podcast listeners. [00:00:07] Welcome to a sample of a Patreon bonus episode. [00:00:10] We release these every week for our subscribers. [00:00:13] They're usually solo essays from our team. [00:00:16] It costs $5 a month for access, and the support helps to keep us ad-free and editorially independent. [00:00:24] You can sign up at patreon.com backslash conspirituality. [00:00:29] Thank you. [00:00:32] So I think that when I walked into Luciano's class, he saw a boy having his mind blown by this whole vibe, and he recognized it. [00:00:43] He also had grown up in a Catholic milieu, rich with prohibitions and shames. [00:00:50] He had grown up in the extremely straight-edge, patriarchal community of first-generation Italian working-class immigrants. [00:01:00] Who would never have expected him to wear Travolta flared trousers as a teen or to wear makeup like David Bowie and then to plunge himself into a 1980s version of bohemian artful recklessness. [00:01:16] I think he saw me standing at a familiar edge. [00:01:20] He too had moved from extreme to extreme in his life and he knew all about leaping. [00:01:29] Now, what did I see? [00:01:32] Well, Luciano was 34 years old, and I've searched for the appropriate noun here, but I haven't had much luck. [00:01:40] I mean, mensch is good, although it implies nobleness, which I think is a little pious. [00:01:49] He was relaxed, welcoming, gregarious, charismatic. [00:01:55] But I'm going to let him answer the question, not as a 34 year old, but close to the end of his life. [00:02:03] I'm a poet, a bit of a visual artist, educator, publisher, gambler. [00:02:14] A lover and a sinner. [00:02:16] That's the opening of an interview film put together in May of this year by his friend, the writer and publisher Antonio D'Alfonso. [00:02:25] That's the same month that he let me know he was really dying after years of cancer. [00:02:32] You might be able to hear that he's a little bit awkward with the question, like any artist who is suddenly asked to summarize what they're about and what they're trying to do. [00:02:43] When I walked into his class at the age of 17, I didn't know about the gambler, the lover, or the sinner parts. [00:02:52] But over the years, he never failed in the honesty that I believe forms the real backbone of teaching. [00:03:00] That amidst the reading and discussion and context, one can also show that one is struggling to learn. [00:03:09] So, what was it like to be in his class? [00:03:11] sometimes even struggling to live. [00:03:15] So what was it like to be in his class? [00:03:18] Well, I must have sat at that long conference table desk in that very messy room a hundred [00:03:27] times over several semesters, twice a week, poetry one afternoon, fiction writing on the [00:03:32] other. [00:03:34] As students, we read to each other, we praised each other, we argued, we got jealous, we asked questions, and Luciano held space for everything. [00:03:44] Everything was on that table. [00:03:46] There were no taboos, nothing we couldn't write about, nothing we weren't allowed to express. [00:03:53] But there were boundaries and guardrails in the form of the books on the shelves behind us, and in the discipline of showing up, even if it was empty-handed. [00:04:05] Luciano was extremely well-read and never let us think that we were somehow inventing the wheel. [00:04:13] On that note, here I'll put a pin in his most characteristic rhetorical technique. [00:04:21] Whatever we brought to him, on paper or verbally, he would consider and listen carefully and say, that is interesting. === Core Pedagogy Connects Learning (00:41) === [00:04:32] Interesting. [00:04:33] That is so interesting. [00:04:35] And what it reminds me of is... [00:04:40] That was at the core of his pedagogy. [00:04:43] To validate, respect, become excited by, and then connect the learning offering back to a network of comparables. [00:04:56] It was a pedagogy of yes and. [00:04:59] And this is really structurally generative.