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Jan. 29, 2026 - Candace Owens
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Candace x Bassem Youssef | Candace Ep 298

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Jealous Accusations 00:10:45
candace owens
All right, you guys, I'm so excited about this episode.
I am sitting across from somebody who I should mention is extremely jealous of me.
And I'll let you listen to what he had to say to me in his own words at his recent show.
bassem youssef
And I was even nominated to be anti-Semite of the Year 2024, but I didn't get it.
unidentified
I didn't win.
bassem youssef
You know who won last year, Anti-Semite of the Year?
unidentified
Candace Owens, yes, Candace Owens.
Yeah, D.I. Some liberal walk.
bassem youssef
You had to give it to a black woman.
Yeah, but this year, you know, who got the anti-Semite of the Year this year?
Yeah, Tucker Carlson.
Yeah, white power, Josh.
Yeah, baby.
unidentified
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, baby.
Yeah, yes.
bassem youssef
Yeah, the planet is healing.
And actually, one of the nominees for the anti-Semite of the Year this year was Ms. Richard.
Imagine you and Ms. Richard having one thing in common, and that thing is anti-Semitism.
candace owens
The world has gone a little bit ridiculous.
I do have to say that's one of my favorite accounts because I feel like it's Forbes 30 under 30.
Like every time they mention anybody there, I'm like, oh, I should be following this person.
Yeah.
What is it?
Stop anti-Semitism.
And it's never anti-Semitism.
The count is a parody of itself.
But I do want to say it wasn't DEI.
I did, I think I just performed better in 2024 than you did.
bassem youssef
I'm just jealous.
candace owens
Yeah, you're jealous.
bassem youssef
I'm bringing my jealousy to the show.
I'm bringing my jealousy to Nashville.
And I'm just very upset that I didn't win.
That's what that would be like the award that I would have really deserved.
candace owens
I know.
And you tried to get all of your people to vote for her.
And like you tried to skip the system.
I didn't even ask people to vote for me.
I won it fair and square in large part thanks to the fact that I was fired from Daily Wire that year.
And you had a little something to do with it.
bassem youssef
Did I?
candace owens
You did, actually.
This is a story that I've never told.
But I, or I think you had something to do with it, but I was not allowed after I had watched you.
And we should show that clip in a little bit, but you were my wake-up call to what was happening in Gaza.
So I watched you, the clip went crazy viral.
You were with Piers Morgan, and this is why comedians are the best because you were not fighting.
You were agreeing with him.
It was like dark humor.
And you held up a chart and asked what the going exchange rate was for Palestinians.
You were like, I agree with Ben Shapiro.
No, I agree.
No, obviously we got to like, we got to kill these sons of BITCHs.
And here's what we did this year and this year.
And this is how many of them had to die.
And seeing that chart and going, wait a second, what is going on?
Why are this many Palestinians dying woke me up to the fact that there was a huge part of the conversation I wasn't aware of?
And so I went to my producer up time and I said, we should get this guy on.
He's going viral.
I don't know who he is, but like, I really would like to just hear the other side.
And my producer ran it up the chain and came back to me and said, we are not allowed to have Basim Yusuf on.
And I said, that's weird.
Why?
And the answer I got was because you hurt Ben's feelings.
I'm not kidding.
She got it in writing.
bassem youssef
I heard Ben.
Ben, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, Ben.
I heard you.
I've heard you feeling.
I'm sure you've heard you feeling.
Here's the thing about Ben.
I'm going to say this in all honesty.
I think Ben, Ben Shapiro is a very, very, very talented individual because he's a very confident liar.
He just lies very easily and he lies so good that I feel ashamed that I can't believe him.
You know, and the thing is, he's a fast talker, right?
You know why he's a fast talker?
Because facts cannot catch up.
candace owens
They never catch up.
bassem youssef
He just like he talks.
You don't know how fast he talks.
He's like a robotic frog.
And actually, if you hear like Ben Shapiro, it's like someone actually sped up the voice.
Actually, if you slow him down, you'll get a normal voice.
Because as he speaks very quickly, the truth is still buffering.
Yeah.
And I'm actually like, I'm very surprised that I heard Ben feeling because Ben says like that the facts don't care about your feeling.
Yeah, well, but with Ben, they don't care about the truth either.
unidentified
Yeah.
candace owens
And so that's one of the things is he never actually debates adults.
And so it was a time where I genuinely wanted to learn more because I was astonished by what the chart that you had showed.
And I was going, whoa, whoa, whoa, I've been to Israel.
I've been in the orbits.
How did I just miss this entire thing?
And surely there must be something else.
And once I host a debate or have a different discussion, then I will see the Israeli way and be able to better defend my positions.
And then I very quickly learned that you're not allowed to go down that path.
You're not allowed to start asking meaningful questions.
And then, of course, I did become really hateful.
I tweeted, genocide is always wrong.
bassem youssef
Oh my God.
candace owens
Yeah.
unidentified
How could you?
candace owens
I don't know.
bassem youssef
Genocide is always wrong.
Every single word of this is ground to fire.
But here's the thing.
I have three different stories about Ben Shapiro to show how talented he is about changing the facts in real time.
The first story happened very recently in Turning Point, USA, when a young kid came up, like a gentleman, he said, he asked, started asking about the bombing of the USS Liberty.
And the way that Ben Shapiro answered, he was just lying through his teeth very quickly.
And he started to say, well, there has been an investigation and it was obviously wrong.
And it was obvious.
And it was proved beyond any doubt that it was a mistake.
which wasn't.
There was a lot of investigation where they weren't.
Actually, the crew of the USS Liberty were threatened.
They had a gag order.
They couldn't talk.
And you know, the beauty about this is that for 15 years, Israel fought this tooth and nail and they finally paid compensation.
You know how much did they pay?
$6 million for damages in the USS Liberties and $6 million for the victims of the USS Liberty.
This is the value of USS soldiers that were killed in that.
And you can see him as he was debating the kid that he was just making things up.
It was already proven.
It was already behind the bridge.
That's the first one.
The second time, he was on the morning show with Shalman the God.
And Sharman asked him, did Israel commit genocide?
And he started going through this Jordan Peterson word salad style, just speaking very quickly, having like big blah, talking.
No, this is not a genocide because they intended.
And then you can see Sharman looking at him as like, that motherfucker is lying, but I cannot say how.
You know, he's looking at this like, this guy is lying to me, but he cannot pinpoint it.
The next day, Mehdi Hassan came on the show and he went through details.
Why is Israel committing genocide?
But if you're there and he's speaking too fast, you don't know what he's saying, so you cannot respond.
And the third story is my favorite because this was a premeditated manipulative, manipulative lie.
He talks a lot about how Hamas uses the aid from the European Union to create weapons, right?
That's his whole thing.
And then he brought in a video with Hamas and the Palestinian authorities in Gaza digging out water pipes and say, you see, these are the water pipes that are put in by the EU, and this is Hamas extracting them and making weapons from them.
The beauty about this clip, that this clip had an Arabic narration.
It has Hamas officials talking over it.
And they said that they discovered water pipes inside, like being dug from inside Israel to steal their water.
So when they discovered it, they dug it out and they used it as weapons against Israel.
So he took like a video knowing exactly what their narration is, and he changed it.
And actually, a shout out to Wally Rashid.
You actually brought a video from him in your show before about the little moles, the little Israeli nodes in the malls, if you remember.
Yeah, like little spy nodes in the U.S. moles.
unidentified
That's right.
bassem youssef
So this is like three examples how this guy lies intentionally.
He lies with purpose.
He knows exactly what he's saying, whether it was like if he's put on the spot or he's asked a question that he has to make up or he's making up a complete fake fact outside out of thin air.
candace owens
Yeah.
And it's, I mean, I don't really, I always start by saying I'm going to get in trouble, but I just, I don't really care because I think humanity just needs to be over all of this.
Like the fear of telling the truth is something that is so scary to consider that so many human beings are allowing terrible things to happen because there's this like quiet fear that you'll be penalized for speaking the truth.
And I just, that's what I gave up in 2025, 2026 can't.
I'm not keeping anybody's secrets.
But to your point about the USS Liberty, just to show you how far this goes in terms of protecting the secret, I hosted Phil Turney sent me a letter, one of the survivors of the USS Liberty.
When I tell you, it was the most meaningful sit-down I've ever had in my life.
And rarely would I say that like everyone looked like they were going to cry here when he went through and what he lived through.
And you can't, you listen to him, you just know he's telling the truth.
You don't even need to hear anything else.
The emotionality still lives in him.
And since from time he was 20 and now he's 76, that he just wants the story to be told about what happened to his mates on that boat.
And I did this episode with him, met him, looked him in the eye, cried with this, with him.
He gave me his purple heart.
And then I got sued by the Daily Wire.
This is after I left Daily Wire.
Because during his sit-down, he brought up two names.
During our sit-down, obviously, I have no idea what this man was going to say.
It was not in his letter that he sent me.
But he looked at the camera and he said, and I'd like to call up people that are saying that this was a hoax.
And he said, Charlie Kirk said something.
And I was always very close to Charlie's dear friend of mine.
And he was like, and Ben Shapiro said something.
And they sued me.
unidentified
Wow.
candace owens
They sued me for allowing a survivor to tell his story.
And they were making a psychic argument that I put him up to it.
Like, I could ever be so disgusting as to manipulate a man to say something so that I can, like, I mean, it was, and then I had to actually call Phil after this and say, I'm going to court.
And I know this is, I would never want to ask you, but like, could you, would you be willing to testify that I didn't put you up to say something?
But just to show you the extent, like to manufacture reality that you're, we're willing to attack this guy twice, I mean, twice, calling this guy a liar twice.
And it's just, I couldn't believe it.
False Flags And Gaslighting 00:04:52
candace owens
Like, we were so far.
I mean, I was being sued left and right for them for everything, but that I thought I was just like, this is, and this was Jeremy Borant, Jeremy Boring being at the helm of the Daily Wire.
bassem youssef
Boring.
unidentified
Yeah.
candace owens
Sent me that lawsuit on his birthday.
Birthday to us.
bassem youssef
That sounds very boring and predictable.
But there's going to be a lot of lawsuits for this episode.
candace owens
Hi.
Yeah.
And I just, I gave it up last year.
I said, this is crazy.
This is how we got into this to understand what's happening in Gaza, to see what Jared Kushner is doing there.
This was a real estate deal.
And they are what they're willing to do in America to make sure nobody remembers the Palestinians.
You can already see getting laws passed, how we're going to retell history.
I mean, they're saying it on.
bassem youssef
Yeah, like Mike Pompeo went on this thing and he said, like, the way that we're going to remember October 7th is not going to how we remember it today.
It's very important that people remember this as Israel being the victim because there was no victims in Gaza.
And they already have, I have a friend of mine who went to the film festival, the Cannes Film Festival last year, one year after October 7th.
And they were already have pledged over $200 million to produce TV shows, movies in order to retell October 7th from the Israeli point of view.
And they are changing history in front of us right now.
And I think this is not just about what happened or what happens in Palestine.
Because of how people saw the gaslighting happening in real time and how the lying is happening in real time, people now are reconsidering everything they were told about history from World War II to JFK to 9-11 to the Iraq War.
Because we have seen an Olympic level gaslighting because Israel doesn't just lie to hide the truth.
They lie recreationally.
They just do because it's fun for them.
And the way that they just lie to wear you down.
Because now you look at all of what is being told to us.
Like, how can you believe a country that has a very lucrative history of false flags operation?
Right?
There's actually two false flags operating.
There's many of them.
First of all, you have like the bombing of the King David Hotel in Palestine.
92 British soldiers were killed, and the people who did it were people from the Haganah gang, and they were dressed as Palestinians.
1950, 1951, there is a Jewish-Israeli author called Avi Schleim.
He's an Iraqi Jew.
And he wrote three books about the plight of the Jewish people in Iraq.
And the plight of the Jewish people in Iraq was not caused by Iraqis.
It was caused by the Israel and Mossad because when they created the state of Israel, they didn't know how to bring all of these Jewish people from the Arab countries.
It was easy to bring them from Europe, but they didn't, but Jewish people in Iraq and in Egypt and Morocco lived there for hundreds of years.
So they needed to push them.
So 1951, 1950, 1951, Israel sends a Mossad agent.
And then he leads four to five different bomb attacks on Jewish synagogues and Jewish communities.
They killed their own people.
candace owens
October 7th.
bassem youssef
And yes, and that happened in Iraq.
And then because of that, 150,000 Jews went in just like a year and a half to Israel.
And then the same guy that Israel sent to, I can't, his name escapes me now.
After Iraq, he went to Egypt and he led the Levon affair in 1954.
And you know what's funny about the Levon affair?
After the sleeper cell, the SPNS cell was discovered, Israel denied it, denied any connection to those people, of course, for 51 years.
And then in 2005, they finally acknowledged it by giving the participants in the Levon affair operation participation certificates, like an Amazon card or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
bassem youssef
And then 1994, the bombing of the Israeli embassy in London.
It was done by Mossad.
And then they nailed, they kind of nailed two Palestinians for it.
One month after 9-11, which is the biggest full-flag operation, in October 2001, there was an attack of the Mexican parliament by two Mossad individuals.
And they were also like being, they pretended to be Palestinians, but they were discovered before the bombing.
So you see all, and of course we have the Bondi, the Bandai attack.
I think I gave pictures to one of your producers, like Arsun Ostrovsky, who's like one of those trolls on Twitter.
Religion Hijacked? 00:15:07
bassem youssef
He happened to be on October 7th, a survivor, October 7th.
And then he posts his picture, a selfie, while he's on the floor, and he has blood all over him.
Yeah, that's the picture.
Okay, which is obviously looks fake.
And then the best picture is the next picture when he's all bandaged.
Can we get?
candace owens
Yeah.
bassem youssef
You see, like there's not a single point, like drop of blood on the bandage.
And there's no self-respecting medic that will actually leave a face like this stretch of blood.
They will have to clean it first.
This is how, how can you believe a country that lies 24-7 like this?
How can we take anything that they say for face value?
candace owens
Yeah, it's scary.
It is actually scary.
And I will say that.
And it's, you know, that's why I think for me to try to understand it, I had to figure out what is the guiding theology here because this is obviously not Judaism.
This is like that will not kill you.
You can't just violate that commandment over and over again and then keep insisting that this is about I'm a Jew, I'm a Jew.
And the further that I went back into history and would see how there were little edits to books.
And I've now done my book club.
And I encourage people to understand the founding of Hollywood because what you're talking about is a troop of actors, performers.
They were the carnies.
They were gypsies.
They will become whatever they have to become to amass power.
And I have been like virtually pleading with the people who are Jewish and stand up against Zionism to learn this because these people appear everywhere in different countries.
They will learn languages.
They will, you know, we're Catholic today.
We're this tomorrow.
And it's, it's basically what Hollywood is.
If you think about it, it's one big psychological operation.
All of the movies that they make, they make sure they get into the classroom.
They're brainwashing your children to believe that they're always victims, that nothing else ever happened.
And then when you start to learn real history and you start to ask questions, and for me, learning more about the Bolshevik Revolution and then going, hey, but where did all these Bolsheviks go?
Oh, oh, oh, B.B. Milikovsky.
Now he wants you to think that he's just Jewish and there's nothing else to see here.
No, this is, they will become whatever they have to become.
They are like their brains are wired.
It's a pathology.
Their brains are wired to lie.
Zionists, they are, it is, I've never seen anything like it to not feel anything when you lie on people, when you smear them, people you knew, people you were friends with, people who like Charlie Kirk.
How quickly they can flip the switch and be guns out and want to ruin you.
That is not normal.
And we cannot pretend that that is normal.
bassem youssef
100%.
And I actually want to say something like on behalf of a lot of my Jewish friends, because they suffer from this too.
A lot of my Jewish friends who see that their identity and their religion is being hijacked by a group of people who are very selfish, who just like use this as a victimization tool.
It is like exactly if Muslims saw people from ISIS and QADA suddenly hijacking our culture, hijacking our religion, but now they have money and power to actually make this the mainstream.
And a lot of my Jewish friends feel that they're silenced, they're sidelined.
We have seen a lot of like Jewish artists, directors and actresses and actors, they go on and they speak up and you see what happens.
They are being called an anti-Semite the next day.
One of my love closest friend, Matt Lieb, he's a comedian, he's a stand-up comedian.
He has like a whole show called Bad Hasbrah.
And he just talks about like the Hasbro techniques.
He told me that at the age of 26, he was like a raging liberal Zionist and he went on a birthright trip to Israel.
And then the one thing that he flipped him, he said, like we were like a bunch of 20 years old.
And then we find that the main speaker in our event was Benjamin Netanyahu, accompanied by Miriam Edelson.
It's like, wait a minute, this is too much effort.
This is too much effort to get this in.
And then he went back and he started to read more.
And he's like completely now, he's an anti-Zionist Jew.
And there's many of these people.
And I, and I, and I feel so bad that they have to, it just, they can't help it that not to take many of this on themselves.
That, all of these stuff that, that those Zionist people do kind of reflect on the whole community.
But there are so many people who are just like sick and tired of being grouped with those psycho.
candace owens
Because they're not, that's what I'm saying.
It's not a religion.
It's a political philosophy.
And that's why it's so important to separate it.
Like Zionists are just tried and true psychopaths.
There's no way you could look at what's happening in Gaza to look out at what they did, how they told us they were going to do it, talking about real estate deals.
I mean, you got to pull this up, Skyler, when you get a second, just some of the video footage of what Gaza looks like today.
And then to look you in the face and feel nothing and say, no, that was necessary response to October 7th.
There's something wrong with you.
And then when people, when they can't train people to be inhumane alongside them, the viciousness with which they attack people for being human, that's why I say I can't wrap my head around it.
I actually wonder what happened to these people when they were kids because something inside of you has flipped.
This is not like any person should have a humane response to seeing, here we go, some humane response to seeing what they've done.
This is, and that's not even, that's like, that's before.
That's, yeah, this, this is basically when they got started.
I mean, they have raised this city.
bassem youssef
And now there's nothing.
candace owens
Yeah.
bassem youssef
There's nothing.
candace owens
The blackmail, the Epstein stuff, the defense of Epstein gaslighting us about Epstein.
And you go, okay, it's literally, I don't care if you are Jewish, if you are Muslim, if you are Christian.
I mean, obviously, I want you guys to all be Christian, but can we all unite to recognize that we have Satanists among us?
Like, this is a satanic philosophy that you have to be worshiping death to be okay with.
bassem youssef
I have a question for you as a Christian.
Like, because we just talked about a small group of people hijacking a whole faith, which is Judaism.
And now, similarly, you have all of these evangelical Zionists, people who go to Israel and come back and they just like brainwash their followers in the church.
And when I look at videos where inside the church, the only flag other than the American flag is the Israeli flag.
And then there is a viral video clip from a documentary called Till Kingdom Comes.
And the pastors are talking to the little kids.
You say, like, Jews are better than us.
They are more special than us.
They are not like us.
I mean, what kind, what you are a man of God.
And now your mission is to tell your congregation that you are not special enough, that there's people from another religion that are more special than you.
And we are, I'm just like, basically, you're basically going in, giving, giving away your life-saving to the church only to have your kids listen to someone say, like, hey, guys, you're like, you're nothing.
You're nobody.
And there's other people who are more worthy than you to be holy.
I don't know how that works.
candace owens
It doesn't.
I'm not evangelical.
And I think for the first time, many people that are evangelical are waking up to that.
And it's incredible to say that is in large part due to the Charlie Clark assassination and us looking into the story, looking into the pastors that he surrounded himself with.
And then we kind of looked into what this Cavalry Chapel church was.
It's a military operation.
I mean, this is literally a CIA operation.
People like Rob McCoy, who was one of the pastors that purported to be close to Charlie, he wasn't.
Actually, Charlie couldn't stand him toward the end.
So that's another big lie that I turning point should come out and tell the truth about.
But his father ran psychological operations for the Navy.
This entire church, Cavalry Chapel church, is a CIA story.
A place for hippies to go.
Who do you think created hippie culture?
I mean, I give people the books to read.
You got to read chaos.
It's a must read.
Understanding what they accomplished in the 60s.
LOL to anybody who thinks that suddenly a bunch of people just wanted to smoke pot and leave their families and go play guitars out in the West.
I mean, the 60s, that entire decade was all about military experimenting with social engineering and social engineering via things like the Manson murders, social engineering via establishing churches.
Everybody's welcome here.
But what is the underlying goal?
The underlying goal of many of these churches, too many of these churches, is to commit people to Israel by any means necessary to believe that they will not be saved unless they worship Miriam Adelson and Bibinet and Yahoo, which is wild.
Miriam Adelson's money and wealth comes from debauchery.
Debauchery.
I mean, what are we talking about?
They built Las Vegas.
bassem youssef
And OnlyFans.
candace owens
Godly.
bassem youssef
I went through a rabbit hole watching a lot of these pastors talking to their congregation.
And it just, it shocked me how they talk down to their own Christian congregation and tell them How special Jewish people are, and it's okay that they spit on Christians.
It's okay that Israel, you cannot build a single church inside Israel because we know God told us all of that.
God has told us that Israel will be so entrenched in sin, and it's a sign of the times, and it is our role to be next to them until God brings them back to the right path.
And until that happens, it's okay to kill all of these people, it's okay to give all of your money to that entity.
And if you don't bless Israel, you're going to be cursed.
It is just like the mental gymnastics they use in order to bring their own people, their own Christian followers down in order to be loyal not to God, not to Christ, but to a political entity.
unidentified
Right.
candace owens
No, it's, it's, it, it is, it is upside down land, but I think it's, it's being fixed and it's being corrected.
And like I said, it's in large part due to people learning the pressure that Charlie was under.
And he, this is a person who was evangelical, he was a Zionist.
He truly, and I know that you have an opinion about Charlie and the stuff that he was doing, but I can tell you that Charlie was genuine in the same way that I always say to people, I obviously regret that I worked inside of Zionist organizations.
I regret my ignorance.
I shouldn't say I regret that I worked there because I actually believe that God put me there for a reason because I had to see it from the inside.
And I can give people now clarity on how these things work.
But I regret that I was ignorant about what was happening in Gaza.
And I think people should know that Charlie, me, we were genuine in our support for Israel because we genuinely believe we were being told the truth by our friends.
unidentified
Yes.
bassem youssef
And that's the reality.
I have a couple of issues with Charlie.
I mean, you know, God rest his souls, and I hope that justice will be served to all of the people who've actually killed him.
I do agree that he was kind of starting to wake up towards the end because he started asking the question, especially on the PBD podcast, he said, but he said something that I said in the first appearance with Peters Morgan.
I said, like, Israel is the size of New Jersey.
And why would it take you six hours for a response where you can go there, get there in a helicopter by 20 minutes?
And that's like a very simple question.
But if you ask that, that's your anti-Semite.
But my, and he asked other questions about the stand down orders.
He, he, he started talking about like the aid.
He was coming from an America-first point of view, which I respect.
But my issues with Charlie were a couple of things.
First of all, I think you already saw the video when I said he kind of falsely claimed that if you're a Jew going to like an Arab neighborhood in Jerusalem, you're going to be stabbed.
And now I understand that this is what was told to you.
candace owens
Oh, they take you on a tour.
bassem youssef
On a tour and they brainwash it.
But the other two things that I, you know, again, he's now between the hands of his creator.
But when he said close to his death, well, you know, Muslims, you like, they throw gay people out of high buildings.
Now there's no high buildings in Gaza anymore for like stupid Muslims.
And that hurt a lot of Muslims seeing that clip.
That was a very, very, very terrible clip.
It's just like, yeah, like, you know, like you have no buildings now to throw gay people out from above it, stupid Muslims.
And then the day before he died, he tweeted saying that Islam is the sword the left is using to slit America's throat.
So he didn't, he wasn't, he would, he wasn't liking us more.
And I understand that because maybe that, maybe he will be on his own path if he was giving the time.
candace owens
Charlie didn't run his Twitter feed.
Andrew Colvet did.
So I just want to say that.
He gave that up.
But that is interesting.
I don't remember him tweeting that, but he did think that the threat of Islam, he totally believed that.
And he spoke about that several times.
bassem youssef
And so his but you at a certain point, you also had very negative ideas about this.
candace owens
I remember you saying it's a part of the package.
So, it's like when you go, like I was saying on this tour to Israel, it's so weird to revisit it because I just don't think I'm an idiot.
But apparently, I was just accepting everything that people that I thought were my friends and were Zionists were telling me because they're very good at playing the part like they are your friends and they want you to be good and they want you to like you know avoid the traps like they're guiding you and you're new to politics.
And let me try to look very quickly so you understand what's happening.
And here we are just trying to open an embassy.
That's what me and Charlie were there for.
Here we are just trying to open an embassy and like look at these terrible Muslims that are like throwing things at us and trying to murder people at the border and you're going to be safe and we've got security for you to make sure of these terrible Muslims.
So it's just, it's literally a psychological operation.
And I want people to know that you have to separate the people that genuinely believe what they're saying versus people who are quite literally being given money and are defending psychopaths when they, when it's, it's very obvious.
And I think October 7th, fast forwarding to where we are right now, with all of the information that's now out there, now that this argument, this debate has kind of arrived on the shores of America, meaning people are getting fired, excommunicated, being smeared, people that you know, you now, you, the, the information is accessible.
And Charlie was changing.
That's the reality.
He just was.
And they tried to bury this.
And he said no.
Here's an interesting fact.
When Bibi went on a little mini tour and went on everyone's shows sometime in August, Charlie didn't let him on a show.
Charlie said no, Bibi Net and Yahoo.
When Bibi wanted to take Turning Point to the next level, Charlie said no.
Okay.
To Bibi Netanyahu, who is a gangster.
You don't get to tell Bibi Netanyahu, no, we all know this.
And so I just want people, I just want people to know the truth, which is that you, and obviously I release text messages.
They've left me no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel cause.
Now, does that mean that he would have been like not eating up everything going on in Minnesota and still would have been working through things?
Erica's Psychological Operation 00:03:10
candace owens
Sure.
Of course he would have.
bassem youssef
Yeah, he was looking at things through a certain lens, a very right-wing, very Christian nationalist lens.
I understand that.
And again, he was young.
And maybe if he was given time, maybe he would have like crossed over to the other side like you and said, like, you know, I now believe that everything I said about, I don't know, it's a kind of a far-fetched, but maybe.
candace owens
We grew up with 9-11.
That was the ultimate psychological operation.
They made us stand up every day in school at 9-11.
unidentified
We would never forget that.
bassem youssef
They found the passport just like laying around.
candace owens
But we were kids, right?
Think about how young I was.
So they know how to make an impression when you're a child and you're scared.
You don't, when you don't know anything and you're scared, it's the perfect time to make an impression.
Well, we'll take care of you.
We're going to make sure those evil Muslims don't come in the country.
All you have to do is take off your shoes and your belts at the airport and no more evil Muslims will get you.
And you're like, okay, what do I have to do to comply with that?
That's a psychological operation.
And that's why when we even revealed yesterday, you know, part of these, these Erica calls five days after her husband died, and she's appealing to Turning Point USA, the employees of like, you know, it's okay.
I'm going to protect you.
She uses this exact same strategy.
bassem youssef
Yeah.
candace owens
I'm going to protect you.
Your jobs are safe.
We're a family now.
After a trauma, it's trauma bonding.
There's a trauma.
unidentified
Yeah.
candace owens
And you don't know what's happening, but I'm here to keep you safe.
bassem youssef
Now work your ass off and bring me some money.
candace owens
Charlie's with us in the office.
unidentified
In the office.
candace owens
Don't go home.
She literally says he wouldn't want you at home sitting on your couch.
bassem youssef
He's watching you as you are alone with your sock in your bed.
candace owens
He's dancing.
He's dancing in heaven when you are in the office.
bassem youssef
Oh my God.
I can't believe the choice of words.
It's just this is like emotional blackmailing on steroid.
candace owens
What do you think?
What do you think about Erica Kirk?
bassem youssef
Erica Kirk?
candace owens
What do you think about Erica Kirk?
bassem youssef
Would I get sued?
candace owens
Throw it in the pile.
bassem youssef
Of course, I don't want to say anything that's controversial.
Did it, but I don't want she's on it, I don't want to get into, I don't want to get into it, I can't wait, but I would never, I would never uh, say anything negative about what do you think?
candace owens
I mean, just on the outside of this, looking in, as someone who was not a fan of Charlie Kerr, I tell you I actually appreciate hearing that perspective more because I I see my own biases going into it.
bassem youssef
I would have Erica Kirk's grieving power.
She grieves like no other.
Yeah, I wish I would had that kind of composure grieving the people that I love like that, because it she gives hope to every one of us that it doesn't really matter.
candace owens
And you know, what's funny is they are using the same, going back to the psychological operations, where they're telling us to like suspend rationality.
And this is supernatural and this is because like, God is with her and they like I mean, you know, when she said to Jesse Waters that she didn't even need to take a sleeping pill, she didn't need to have a glass of wine, that she slept, she said she slept fine and accepted that this is what God wanted, so instantly.
War On Truth 00:06:31
candace owens
And there's something about that.
That is chat Gbt Christianity, where it's like you're just gonna keep saying God wanted this like no, being Christian is is the we're, we are flawed we we, we are not.
Of course you're going to contend with God.
You're going to bargain God.
We don't get it right.
Of course you're going to ask questions, why, why did this have to happen?
We're not, we're not perfect, we are not Jesus Christ.
bassem youssef
What is bothering me even more than Erica Kirk is that uh, I mean, Erica is playing a part, but there is people who are supposed to serve the American people, like the director of the FBI, mr Kash Patel who, even before he got into office, he said America needs to wake up and piratize Israel, which is a very weird thing to say.
candace owens
He lives in Las Vegas by FBI director, with a dude.
bassem youssef
Oh, that the honeypot.
We should.
candace owens
No, he doesn't live with her.
She lives here.
bassem youssef
Oh, my god oh, she lives here and he lives with oh, I can't.
He's the FBI director and i'm, I don't know.
I mean i'm, i'm a new, i'm a new citizen here.
candace owens
I'm just stating the facts.
bassem youssef
I'm i'm but but but oh, he's in Las Vegas.
Is this where, you know, the Israeli cyber security guy was also found out to be a pedophile and then he was let go.
You know what's so funny about this story?
I'm sure that everybody knows here about like, know this story the, the.
There's the head of the cyber security at Netanyahu's office.
He comes to Las Vegas and, just like you know, to pass time, he was found with a minor and it was a sting operation, but then he was allowed to leave.
This happened in Evaluation.
You know what's the most important thing about this is that not a single media outlet reported that this ever happened, ABC, FOX NEWS CMBC CNN, nothing.
If you have a foreign country who's supposed to be your ally sending high security officers here and they are not, not just once, many times, and they're involved in pedophile rings and they're allowed to leave, but that's okay, because we need to talk about the Somalis in Minneapolis, we need to talk about the Arabs in Michigan, it just.
And then you have, like the, the act, the acting da who happened Happens to be an Israeli national, who let him go.
And nobody talks about this.
And this is why this is how they brand you to be a conspiracy theorist.
When you start talking about stuff that's not circulating in the media, you become part of the fringe.
candace owens
Yeah.
bassem youssef
If you're not into this, if it didn't happen in the mainstream media, that didn't happen.
Anybody who repeats that is a psycho, he's a conspiracy theorist, he's a flat earther, whatever.
But it is, and now this is what I found out about coming here to the United States.
As someone who comes from the third world country where we are used to censorship and we are used to, you know, not telling the truth as it is.
Here, nobody will hide the truth, but they will choose not to tell it and they will tell other stuff and give it a bigger mic.
So someone like Jay Klang or Tommy Robinson, whatever they go and they start doing this agitation thing, they will find someone like Elon Musk with like tens of millions of followers tweeting it.
That now becomes news.
But they will never say anything about the other stuff.
So everything that you are faced with in the news is that the stuff that they want you to see.
They will not hide it.
Like, hey, we have democracy, but we'll not talk about it.
This is how they selectively push the narrative.
Like what happened October 7th?
I call it shock and all.
You know how America went to Iraq and they used shock and all, like extreme attack?
They do this.
It's a decapitated babies, babies in ovens, pregnant women having their time.
And it has become so much of an emotional shock that if you start questioning it, it's like, how come you question babies getting decapitated?
You're anti-Semitic.
You don't like, you don't care about babies.
And this is how they pushed it and it becomes the news.
candace owens
Yeah.
I mean, that's Soviet propaganda.
And this goes back to what I was saying about the Bolsheviks.
I mean, one episode, we were speaking about even the things that they told us about World War II and the things, and they panicked.
And it was hilarious because a couple of months later, Auschwitz Museum comes out and says the stuff that was said about Dr. Joseph Bengali, a lot of it was made up.
He never did these things.
He was actually before all of this respected doctor.
Auschwitz Museum, put this on their website.
bassem youssef
And they changed the number from 4 million to 1 million overnight.
candace owens
I mean, there's been a lot of changes, but you're not allowed to know history or how the numbers change.
And I was grateful to sit down with Norm Finkelstein and I asked him about that question, you know, because he's like, my parents, one of his parents was an Auschwitz and the other parent was blanking on which of the other camps they were in.
And he said, he acknowledges it.
He's like, yeah, of course.
He said, my parents told me some people were taking the tattoos off and some people were putting them on.
You know, people that I believe were laundering their names.
I spoke to him about this, making themselves victims.
And they actually were the perpetrators of a lot of the crimes that were happening against Christians, mass murder of Christians, which we're not allowed to talk about.
The number one victims of World War II were not Jews, it was Christians.
And when you say that, they get so angry because they have worked so hard for decades to manipulate people in the classroom to believe that the only victims that have ever existed in history were Jews.
And that's just, on its face, false and it is a lie.
And we have to do a better job of getting out the truth.
bassem youssef
And by the way, I wouldn't even mind if that was the story.
But the fact that they used that in order to inflict Holocaust on other people, Palestinians who had nothing to do with, okay, Holocaust, 12 million Jews were killed.
Whatever.
We didn't do that.
The Palestinians weren't part of it.
You were actually pushed onto them.
And you would actually kill other Jews in order to prevent anything else from happening.
You know the crisis of Petria?
Petria was a ship that came from Europe that has 1500 Jewish refugees, 1940s, and the port of Haifa.
And then the Haganah, which is like one of the Israeli, the Zionist gang, they blew it up because the British authorities wouldn't let it go with it like the dog, and they wanted to actually divert it to Mauritius.
So they bomb it, and I think like they killed 150 Jews, their own people.
They didn't care about Jews being killed in Germany, by the way.
They didn't care about they just used them as a bargaining chip in order to create Israel.
So it's not really about being Jewish killed.
They don't care.
They don't really care.
It's the same way like ISIS.
They don't care about Muslims dying.
candace owens
These are Satanists.
We're not fighting Jews.
Israel's Double Standards 00:15:46
candace owens
And I always make that point of going backward and looking at the actual guiding theology.
I'm going to take a quick break and throw it to sponsors, but then I want to show them the clip of you on Piers Morgan because I just think it was one of the best clips ever.
bassem youssef
Oh, thank you.
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All right, guys, I want to show you this clip.
It's just incredible.
We've kind of spliced it together here, but this is Bassam on Piers Morgan, the clip where he just uses humor.
That's why we need the comedians because they're brilliant and they have a way of delivering a point in a way that is not controversial.
And it makes you go, what is wrong with us as a society?
It's dark humor, and they are the best at it.
Take a look at this.
bassem youssef
The question is, what is a proportionate response?
Because it has been different from one tier to another.
So if you look to this graph, for example, this is the death of Israeli and Palestinians.
And it's changing from one year to year.
It's like fluctuating like crypto.
So my question is today, what is the going rate today for human lives?
I mean, 2014 was a great year for Ben Shapiro.
88 Israelis were died and there was 2,329 Palestinians killed on the other side.
That is one Israeli for 27 Palestinians.
That is a very good exchange rate.
What I'm saying is, what is the exchange rate for today?
So you guys will be happy.
Hamas has absolutely no control in the Westbank.
And since the beginning of this treaty, only through August, 37 Palestinian kids were killed.
No music festival, no paragliding, no Hamas.
Since the occupation of the West Bank, 7,000 Palestinians were killed.
No music festival, no paragliding, no Hamas.
This is the problem.
Israel always victimizes itself, and I have never seen a victim putting their oppressor under siege and bombing them 24-7.
Israel wants you to believe that they are the victim.
Dealing with Israel is so difficult.
It's like being in a relationship with a narcissistic psychopath.
He f you up and then he makes you think it's your fault.
I have two questions.
The question is, how can you justify the killing in the West Bank where Hamas does not exist?
And if the disproportionate response over all of these years have actually worked, what will be new this time that did not happen before?
I just want to...
That was my question.
candace owens
I mean, it's brilliant.
I mean, just looking at it and going, wait a second, there's no Hamas.
Why are we just killing Palestinians for fun?
And it was just brilliant.
It genuinely was brilliant.
bassem youssef
Well, they're continuing, like, the Gaza war never ended.
The ceasefire never happened.
Actually, they killed more children since the ceasefire.
More than Israeli kids were killed since 1948.
unidentified
Wow.
bassem youssef
Can you imagine?
That's incredible.
In three weeks, they killed more children from the Palestinian side, more than Israeli kids were killed all through 75 years.
candace owens
Do you know what I always say to people, and it astonishes me that they can't think through this?
If you think just because it's happening over there, like you're going to agree with these people, you're going to back these people up, you're going to maybe take a check, $7,000, maybe it's $100,000 to attack people that are standing up and saying this is wrong.
But you can't be so dense as to think that they won't kill you too.
That's what mind-buckling.
You realize if they want to want America, they'll kill your kids too.
bassem youssef
Isn't that happening also?
I mean, isn't like ICE has been trained by the IDF?
Isn't that the same tactics that's used by ICE and used by many of the police departments?
They get trained.
They're actually one of the ICE offices that when they did like locations, like kind of, they found that the location of one of their field offices is in Tel Aviv.
Why do we have ICE officers?
candace owens
I think it was the Department of Home.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
bassem youssef
That's kind of a couple of months ago.
The ICE is just like recent two days ago.
So why are all of these American security entities playing out from Tel Aviv?
But the question is stupid because you have all of these billionaires, Peter Thiel, Alex Carb, Larry Ellison, they have a weird affair with Israel.
They openly donate to the IDF.
They openly have their headquarters in Israel.
They pump huge amounts of money.
They use their technology in order to kill more Palestinians.
And they use Palestinians as rat labs in order to test these AI-advanced, horrible lethal weapons.
It's terrible.
And now, America is using it.
America now is invading the world.
And I have to tell you, as an immigrant, as a new immigrant in this country, I'm enjoying it.
I'm like, for the first time, I'm on the side where history is happening to somewhere else.
It is amazing.
I'm telling you, I'm kind of getting used to this feeling of being in a country that can do whatever the hell it wants with no consequences.
It's a great feeling.
It's amazing.
I mean, I have this kind of, I don't know.
It seems that people from the third world who came to country, their childhood trauma is now our country's foreign policy.
candace owens
Sadly.
Yeah, sadly.
And I just don't think people understand.
You can't go halfway with a psychopath.
They don't feel anything.
They kill people.
If they kill a child and then you defend that, why do you think your kids are safe?
I just don't understand the common sense of that.
bassem youssef
I'm telling you, it is such a difference to live in a country like America that can invade half of the world and still host the Olympics.
I know they can go and invade your country and then the next day it's like, you know, I'm going to host the FIFA World Cup and I'm going to deny your people the entry visa.
That is like one huge boss level kind of control.
And now, but now I'm actually happy that that's happening to Denmark and then we're going to get green land because now I know it's not about brown people.
candace owens
I don't even know what we're doing anymore.
And I'm like, I got behind Trump.
We're supposed to do no new wars.
And then it's like Bibi's like, here's what you're going to do.
Here's what you're going to do.
Obviously, look, he took Mary Maidelson's money.
And so I just don't even pay attention to it anymore.
bassem youssef
I'm just happy because now I know that America doesn't see color.
It sees opportunity.
It just doesn't hate like Muslim people.
It just hates underutilized land.
candace owens
Well, what do you mean?
bassem youssef
Do you think like America is now like the word?
candace owens
It's not even America.
bassem youssef
America is like the HOA of the word.
It's like we see that you cannot use it.
candace owens
It's not true.
I promise you, it is not America.
We might have been brainwashed, but this is very clearly like an Israeli empire.
And LBJ murdered JFK, got his boys in there and took over our military.
And everything else is just noise and Hollywood and manipulation.
And now it's cracking.
And now people are looking up and going, wait, why are we being so controlled?
Why are our kids being led to believe that they have to support Zionism?
Why am I not allowed to make a decision about whether I think this or think that?
The fake algorithm, pretending that people are popular when they're not.
And so the mass awakening has them a bit panicked.
They're making a lot of mistakes right now, case in point, going after Miss Rachel seems like an unbelievable mistake.
But I do think the biggest threat to their empire is the awareness.
And that's why they're like sloppy.
Like we're just going to buy TikTok.
I don't think the money is the real power.
The illusion, the trick was actually the illusion.
We all believed they were the victims.
We watched the movies.
Our kids were, we were in the classroom.
We bought into the 9-11 rhetoric.
The danger for them is when all of a sudden they go, 330 million people, if that's how many of America now wake up and go, wait a second, I actually think what you're doing is pretty horrific.
What's their next move?
bassem youssef
I'll tell you, American citizens now are waking up to the fact how easy it is to go from a first world country citizen to a third world country citizen.
Because here's the difference.
People in the developed world, in African, Asia, and Latin America, we all know.
We know the people in power, they're corrupt.
All the people in colour, they are terrible.
They have all kinds of bad things happening, but we cannot speak up because it's too dangerous.
So we shut up, but everybody knows.
In America, everybody knows and everybody can talk.
You can talk, but we dare you to change anything.
So you vote, you talk, you protest, you go online.
Nobody will put you in jail.
You feel like you participated.
But the end result is nothing changes.
They look at you and say, yes, the Epstein files.
Yeah.
There's victims.
Nothing will happen.
You have evidence.
You have evidence about Epstein.
Every single TV show, every single comedy show is making fun of it, but nothing is really moving forward.
You see the difference?
Yeah, I'm giving you this margin of liberty, but do you think you can do anything with the liberty?
What if Trump tomorrow decides he's going to run for a third term?
What will happen?
What?
A federal judge will just like put some what will happen?
What you're going to get the military to remove him from office?
What will prevent them from kind of in putting like enforcing martial laws or starting to take your liberties?
We have to, because the world has been desensitized by how much violence that happened in the Middle East, that now people are kind of like, they're desensitized.
It can happen to us anytime now.
candace owens
Do you think that they're going to do it?
bassem youssef
I mean, you said that what is the next thing?
We have seen this.
We've seen what they can do on the level of the universities.
Because like three years ago, you wouldn't even imagine that American university will be having the same treatment that we see in brutal dictatorship that would justify military intervention.
We have seen people losing their jobs, losing their careers, being beaten, being arrested, being shot, having NYPDs and LAPDs having Israeli special operations officers on site with them.
What would prevent them from doing that outside of the university campus?
You see, it is the same thing happening, but you're moving very slowly there.
Because the moment that they lose control, when there's no more TikToks to buy, there's no more HBOs or CNN to buy, there's no more ways to put in them, you will find the system becoming more and more brutal.
candace owens
You think so?
So I would say they do seem to be coming more brutal, but they're also becoming brutally stupid.
Meaning that, okay, so the goal with having people go in there and, oh, we're going to drag you out.
You're going to get down to the country because you say something against Israel has just made my generation go, okay, we're not going to send our kids there.
But the power wasn't us sending our kids there and then brainwashing our kids.
You actually need the kids there to believe in the illusion.
So as soon as you start letting us know that there's actually no freedom and that these are actually little indoctrination centers that are being run by Israel and we're now speaking to our kids coming up about what Israel is, you are fighting to lose the control that you have.
Same thing with speech, right?
As soon as they, Larry Ellison and all of them are out there like, we need to buy TikTok.
Do you think that made TikTokers pro-Israel or anti-Israel?
Like, does it actually work long term to say, well, we've got the power.
Okay.
It's power versus the people.
Do you think power wins or are the people going to win?
bassem youssef
That's why I say you're going to be on the trajectory where it's going to be becoming more brutal, more stupid until they completely lose control.
I don't know how many years, but we're heading to that direction.
Because here's the difference between third world countries and the Western countries.
Because I was told this when I was growing, it's like, oh my God, you're in the Middle East.
You have all of these red lines.
You have all of these red lines.
You cannot cross the red lines.
And I come to here the United States like, it's true.
You don't have any red lines, but you have two blue lines.
You cannot cross these two blue lines.
That's your only lines.
So you can talk about the president.
You can make fun of the president, about the Democrats, about the government, about the judge.
Nothing is off-limit.
But when you cross these two blue lines with a little bit of star in the middle, this is where we get you.
And now you know who has the power.
So I think the more and more people are waking up, the more brutal that we're going to become, the more outspoken, more stupid, more blunt in your face they're going to become.
And then at a certain point, people will either give up, disenfranchise, or just people go underground and you will see a violent counter-attack coming from the people.
candace owens
I actually think you're right.
I think you're absolutely right.
Because you thinking about that, they came out and they were like, oh, we're going to run Trump for a third term.
Or if they just came out and were like, you know what?
You guys have no power.
We're going to install BBN and Yahoo as president of the United States.
What will we actually do?
bassem youssef
Yeah, nothing.
unidentified
Yeah.
bassem youssef
Nothing.
Because people took for granted, oh, the president is going to be there for a couple of terms and he's going to leave.
What happens if he doesn't?
Oh, the president cannot put me in jail because of my opinion.
Now it's happening.
People are being deported, being put in jail.
People are losing government contracts.
You have 37, 38 states that have laws that you cannot boycott Israel, which is crazy.
And that's the law.
So they're already doing that.
And I asked the question in one of my videos.
What will prevent them?
Nothing.
I don't know if you're following what happens to the anti-Israel voices in Europe.
You know, we always hear about America sanctioning a country, right?
There's sanctions on China, sanctions on Iraq.
You know what happens when you sanction a person?
When you sanction a person, and they did that from a couple of the judges and the ICC, they sanction the judge.
He's Dutch.
This guy cannot have access to a bank account, cannot have anything.
Like, he cannot have money.
He cannot buy a ticket.
He cannot pay his own bills.
He's just like a ghost.
This is what happens when America sanctions a person in a foreign country.
What prevents America from sanctioning you and just like wiping up your bank accounts or denaturalize you and then send you home or put you in jail?
Sanctions and Shadows 00:14:52
bassem youssef
What would prevent that?
candace owens
So a couple of things I would say.
I would push back and say, first and foremost, we're a big country.
America's not like a little European country, a big country.
Also, our general attitude is very different.
I remarked whenever I go to the UK at how polite even their protesters are.
Like when I was being protested, when I was speaking at some UK camps, as me and Charlie, they were very polite.
They were like holding signs and were like, we would really like you not to be here.
And I was like, oh, okay, thank you.
That was it.
America's a little ratchet in those ways.
America is a nation that they actually trained up for generations to be, to always revolt.
Like, I mean, we're constantly in revolt at all times.
And so I'm not sure that when people start, when they start showing up to doors, and we saw this recently down in Miami, where the police officer showed up and was like, did you send this tweet?
I don't know that, you know, the country that brought you BLM riots is going to be like, no, that's fine.
Like, we're just going to be like knocking on people's doors being like, here's the tweet.
bassem youssef
Did you challenge this point?
unidentified
Yeah, of course.
candace owens
I'd love you to challenge this point.
bassem youssef
Because the same country who, you know, had the BLM rise, the same country who stood against Vietnam and the same country who stood against the Iraq war, this same country, again, we've seen a microsome of what they can do in colleges, which is the most vibrant, most active, most useful, most energetic places in the United States.
University Congress.
And we have seen what happens to those young kids.
They were vilified in the media.
They were ridiculed.
They were belittled.
They had their careers.
Some of them were even were shot.
I have a friend of mine, Palestinian.
He and two of his friends, they were shot.
And now he's paralyzed from waist down.
All because he didn't even know, he wasn't even one of the processes.
He was wearing a kifaya and he was speaking Arabic.
So if America, with all its might, can crack down on the most free spots in the United States, which is the universities.
And we didn't, can you, do you hear anything about the university right?
It took them like two months and they killed it.
What would prevent them from going door to door?
First, it's going to be very, very small and then they're going to get bigger.
Because three years ago, you wouldn't think that they will have paid mercenary militias in American streets.
Three years ago, you wouldn't think that there were like a university encampment where like they would be destroyed and demolished and people will not have any chance in hell to even work in Silicon Valley because they're all blacklisted.
So what I'm saying is, we've been saying this for the past eight years since Trump got office in 2016.
It will never happen.
We'll never go that far.
But it's happening.
candace owens
I'm not saying that it would never go this far.
It has gone very far.
I'm pleased.
I'm banned from Australia.
I mean, I have seen what people are willing to do.
Their whole thing is to bankrupt you too.
unidentified
The laws are not.
bassem youssef
They have the same danger as horses going into Australia.
Oh my God.
unidentified
I know.
candace owens
It's crazy.
It's completely crazy.
bassem youssef
They know that they ban horses from their Olympics.
Yeah, they have to play the horse.
candace owens
It's incredible.
I'm banned from an entire country over standing up for Palestinians, children, innocent Palestinian life, because we have to believe that Palestinians are animals or they'll ruin your life.
I just think that it has worked in the opposite regard.
And I think even military men, right?
So you're right.
Relies on the military being willing to execute the orders.
Well, I'm having a conversation with these guys in the military.
And now there's waking up to what sits at the top of the military because the corruption is always at the top.
These men are amazing people that sign up.
You know, then we're starting to go backwards.
We're looking at the fact that, yeah, after LBJ, yeah, you put in some satanic people to run psychological operations.
Those people, of course, will go door door and kill people.
bassem youssef
Yeah.
candace owens
There's a lot of Americans.
bassem youssef
But there's also a lot of third world countries generally that will not participate.
And what the leader does, he will replace them and will bring put people in their place who would do what he wants.
candace owens
There's a lot of Americans.
bassem youssef
And there's a lot of other Americans.
candace owens
I don't know.
I just maybe, maybe I'm too optimistic, but I see them losing right now because they're reacting like an animal backed into a corner.
And I'm not saying it's not going to get worse first.
bassem youssef
Okay, here's the thing.
You have 98% of Congress and the Senate.
candace owens
That's just a bunch of.
bassem youssef
Yeah, but those bunch of, they are the ones who are writing the laws.
They are the ones who write a law that says that they can take $28 billion or $30 billion from your tax money and give it to a different country.
So those people, they're stealing.
Yeah, they're stealing.
But they are all bought by those lobbies.
So what I'm saying is if you buy enough people to control the government, you can buy enough people to turn the government to do something that the people here doesn't want.
Because there's a huge separation now between the political and the media elite and the rest of the people.
Thousands of people marching, but up there, the money is going somewhere else.
And I'm just saying that it's not that far.
candace owens
I'm optimistic.
I know it sounds crazy.
It probably doesn't sound crazy.
I think I just, in the end, God wins.
I think they were clever.
They've done a lot of stuff in the dark.
They've kind of separated.
But the awareness, yeah.
bassem youssef
Which God will win.
candace owens
He God is going to win.
And I do think part of it was the awareness.
They needed the spell.
Like, you know, BB believed, yeah, we've got power.
We've got politicians.
We've got this.
We've got the, you know, we could take the guns.
We can remove all this.
We can traffic children.
Nobody blinks an eye.
We got Epstein out.
All of this stuff.
But it did rely on the trick of the illusion.
And I think they underestimated how much relied on the illusion.
And that's why they're panicking about Gen Z because that's the future.
And there's a lot of people.
And would they, if they could mass kill everybody in this country?
Yeah, they would.
I believe these people are psychopaths.
Like I said, watching their reaction to the Palestinians and what they've done to people for saying the right thing, like Miss Rachel shows you that there's no life in these people.
This is the synagogue of Satan.
The people that stand up and say that's fine are they're satanic.
That's, I genuinely wonder what happened to them when they were kids.
bassem youssef
Maybe we don't need an audience.
candace owens
And I think they're not.
bassem youssef
Maybe we need an exorcist.
unidentified
We do, actually.
candace owens
We do need, we do need an exorcism.
I do, I do believe that.
I do also think that it's sex-based trauma.
I think a lot of these people, just my research into Sigmund Freud, a lot of these people, when I see the way they react, they knew that they could create psychopaths by abusing kids in their youth.
And I do think that a lot of these people behave like they are mind control slaves.
Like they're trauma-based mind control.
And because it, and I made a cover from my book club, but they showed that harming a child and what the child will do to try to rationalize why this happened to them can, and I'm not saying this happens to every person, then sets them on a path to become a psychopath when they don't understand why someone in their family would do something like that to them.
And I look at some of these people, I have no other excuse.
I have no other excuse, but your humanity just should come online at some point and you say this is wrong.
And they don't.
Some are being guided by money, some by blackmail.
But the true psychopaths that you look at, well, they will just lie to your face all the time.
And I'm like, something happened to you when you were a child, and I'm sorry.
And part of that was you truly believing.
bassem youssef
What do you think happened to Ben Shapiro when he was a child?
candace owens
You know, combination of things with him.
I would love to know.
I would sit down and ask him these questions.
It's just not normal.
Because he fixates.
That's what makes me nervous about him.
There's an obsession.
He fixates.
He can't let it go.
He can't.
I mean, he's been so fixated on Tucker Carlson.
Even when I was at Daily Wire, it's like you would think, and Tucker never ever spoke about him, never while I was there.
It's a fixation and there is a neuroticism there.
And I don't, I don't know what happened to him, but I know he's got like a very too close relationship with his dad.
Like his dad follows him to every job.
Not no, I actually think it's, it's, his dad's always with him, working with him at all times, at every job, follows him, tells him he's amazing.
Like, so it's, it's different.
bassem youssef
I'm so sorry, Ben.
I'm so sorry I hurt you feeling.
I didn't know that you went through that.
candace owens
But his dad's apparently very angry.
And so there's a source of, but I do think they're, they're brainwashed too.
Like they, they actually don't realize that they will, like, hell is real.
It's real.
Like you're, we will go to hell.
bassem youssef
What I said on Piers Morgan about is dealing with narcissistic psychopath.
Narcissistic psychopath are genuinely sick people.
The world revolves around them.
They cannot do no wrong.
They would gaslight you into telling you what's not in front of you.
They will just, they're not going to engage in conversation.
They will only engage in conversation to wear you down and piss you off.
One of the interviews that I went to by Piers Morgan, they brought someone called Jones de Kornikis, who was like the ex-IDF spokesman.
And out of nowhere, it's like there is no famine in Gaza.
There are so many videos of fat Palestinians, fat, and he emphasized on the fact.
He knows that by him saying this, it's like, how could you say that they want to trick you into getting under your skin?
So now the conversation is not about what's happening in Gaza.
It's about like now, like what I've just said.
And then they will, they, they are, they're masters in doing that, trolling that.
See, all of their conversation, all of their debates, their point, the whole thing is to them making you lose control and lose, lose your temper.
So they will divert the conversation going somewhere else.
You'll see that.
They're very good at doing this.
candace owens
Yeah, no, you're absolutely right.
bassem youssef
And they don't care about the truth.
They care about confusion.
They always ask the question, if you have like a campus where you have 10% that's pro-Palestinian and 10% pro-Israeli, what do you do to the other 80%?
And the wrong answer is, I'm going to try to convince the 80% with my cause.
It's like, no, their answer is you try to confuse the other 80%.
Just give any whatever like pantras, whatever like soundbites, just like to throw at the situation to you, they divert the conversation.
This is what they do.
candace owens
Yeah, I agree with you.
It's like, it's like master manipulation.
And I came out of it.
So I realize now.
bassem youssef
Welcome back.
This is kind of like rehab.
candace owens
Yeah, well, I wasn't, you know, it's funny.
I was never like a, I wasn't out there speaking about the topic of Israel, but I did believe that where I was working were real media companies that were dedicated to free markets and capitalism and that these were my allies in that sense and fighting, defending free speech.
And so it is, there is something that's scary when you go, oh my gosh, how could I not have realized that I was actually, no, I'm just kind of being used so that they can pretend they're this thing, but actually the only thing that matters is this one thing, which is like Israel and serving Israel.
So it's been a lot to process that, but I don't, I'm grateful I was blinded to it because it gave me almost a superpower to come up through it.
I know I now know how the tricks work.
I know who these people are.
I know who they're connected to.
I know who they're communicating with.
I know what publications they're speaking to.
I can see the hand of, oh, this, you know, Marissa at Prager U, who I adored when I worked for her.
I'm like, oh, this is, this is a Marissa thing.
And so I think God wanted me blinded for that time.
And I hate, so I could, so now when I'm telling the story about Charlie, even I'm, I, it has so much more weight.
I'm telling the public, no, this is what was going on.
This is who put this person in this organization.
This is who he was arguing with.
So it kind of, in many ways, had, I had to go through all of it.
Otherwise, I'm just like throwing opinions at the wall.
And it represents an existential threat to these organizations to go, okay, no, but she came from the inside.
bassem youssef
She's not just that's why you and Charlie and all of the people who've charted to flip their you are more dangerous like someone like me because he's an Arab, he's a Muslim, he already did 9-11.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
candace owens
He passed it in 9-11.
bassem youssef
Of course, I did.
candace owens
It was your passport.
bassem youssef
I had to get a new one.
I had to get a new one.
unidentified
Damn.
bassem youssef
You know, the whole thing about the passport.
There was like a bombing attack in Paris 2015.
And you can Google this, by the way.
You just Google Syrian Passport Stat du France, because also there was like a huge, like, I don't know, like 50 people were killed by machine guns.
And they conveniently found passports for Syrian people in Paris.
What kind of, what kind of very organized, meticulous, like, oh, here it is.
A Syrian passport found near a suicide bomber near a suicide bomber at November 2015.
Just like, boom.
candace owens
Yeah.
bassem youssef
You know what?
candace owens
Oh, never mind.
We don't have to.
It was done by the Palestinians.
Tyler Robinson.
unidentified
Yes.
candace owens
He just left this really big.
bassem youssef
What kind of very organized, got-together, like, you know, terrorists who just goes to all of these operations.
candace owens
The best laid plans.
bassem youssef
This is my last operation because I'm going to die after that.
So I better get my passport so I don't lose my way to the 72 versions in heaven.
It just, it becomes so comical.
I don't know.
candace owens
No, what's interesting actually is this background, which we haven't gone to on podcast, but looking at the Charlie Kirk thing and these Egyptian planes that were tracking him and Turning Point USA faith events was that the fake names, the real names on these passports, it's interesting how many are Palestinian, which is like I'm convinced these were Israeli planes.
That's why they're panicing about it.
Like obviously, like we all know Egypt, the whole thing, they're running stuff through Egypt, obviously.
But yeah, there I was like, oh, this is interesting.
This person died in Palestine and this exact full name is one of the passports.
I got the list of every Egyptian name that's on this.
bassem youssef
They always hide behind other ends.
candace owens
I'm like, did you know this?
By the way, a bunch of Palestinians were apparently in Provo the day that John.
bassem youssef
Oh, yeah.
I mean, this is where Palestinians have to.
candace owens
Get excited.
You guys should help me.
The Zionist lobby helped me.
They're Palestinians.
They did it.
bassem youssef
I'm actually very quiet.
I'm actually happy that my life led me to actually live the American dream.
I'm actually very happy.
I'm a proud American, by the way.
I got my passport six years ago and I'm happy that I've established my American dream to finally come here, live in America, work my ass off, pay my taxes to sponsor Israel.
That is my dream because this is how.
And it's funny because in the third world country, we used to that kind of control that happens after an invasion.
We didn't even have to be invaded.
It's more administrative, administrative.
Like you don't need tanks or planes.
All you need is a couple of fundraisers.
candace owens
You have to shoot JFK.
bassem youssef
No, fundraiser dinners.
candace owens
You have to shoot JFK and then one person did it and then get all your boys into the military.
And that's how America was taken over, obviously.
And then just get a bunch of homosexual men to go to DC, you know, catch them on the apps, Lindsey Graham.
And then, I mean, whatever they've got on Lindsey Graham, he's like terrifyingly supportive of Israel.
It's like, no, no matter what they want, we got to bomb Iran right now.
It's like his file, terrifies.
That file, and Bibi just sits there like, and he just freaks out.
I was like, I love you so much, blah, blah, blah.
I'm like, whatever they have on Lindsey Graham, it's scary.
Masculinity's Dark Side 00:06:31
candace owens
By the way, how about we never got the answer to which congressman was sleeping with that young male intern or somebody that's working in the office on the congressional floor?
Do you remember this?
unidentified
Yeah.
candace owens
They wiped this away.
That's how Israeli blackmail files are created.
They got that story.
We have no idea.
This happened in a congressional building on the congressional floor, and we have no answers as to what that was actually about.
Who was the congressman on the other side of that?
bassem youssef
And it's funny, like, how when everybody's talking about Epstein, I mean, like, you cannot say, like, oh, nobody is talking about Epstein.
Everybody talks about Epstein, comedy shows, whatever, but they never talk about the very obvious connection with a foreign intelligence.
You see, like, open ABC, Epstein, NBC, Epstein, CNN Epstein, comedy-centered, Epstein, but they never talk about the Israeli connection.
Well, it's very different.
unidentified
Exactly.
candace owens
What do you mean?
He was Hamas.
bassem youssef
Oh, yeah, he was Hamba.
candace owens
That's when they'll start talking about it.
As soon as we work through, oh, it turned out actually that he was working for Hamas.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
bassem youssef
Oh, like he was indicted in 2008, and he was allowed to go to Israel during his time.
candace owens
That's what's coming next.
bassem youssef
He just happens to go to Israel and then he would come back.
candace owens
That's why they put Barry West CBS.
That's what's coming.
They're working on that narrative.
They just have to figure it out.
And it's like, it is the most despicable thing.
That was for me dumb with Trump.
As soon as he said what Epstein files, easiest way to lose me as talk about the children.
If we can't defend the children, what kind of nation are we?
If we, as a country, turn away when we know children are being abused.
And then I started to realize, oh, that's the name of the game.
Like, that's what the CIA is doing.
They are trafficking human beings.
This is what they are involved in.
And we're all kind of waking up to that spell.
And then they have us arguing with each other left versus right.
And that's why I'm like, are you team God or are you team Satan?
And it's actually kind of shocking how many people are team Satan.
I will say that.
bassem youssef
Away from God and Satan.
I'm someone, I'm a prime example who's someone who, when I, when I got the day I got the American, I remember the day that I had my Pledge of Allegiance, 2019, December 2019.
I remember that that day I was so happy, not just because of becoming American citizens, the first thing that they give you as a new American citizen, they give you the form to write down your information for the passport.
And the second form they give you is your voting registration.
And it's like, this is my first thing as an American, because I was there on a green card legally for five years and I could only vote local in local and local elections, but not in the general elections.
And I was so proud that, oh, now I can vote.
It took me four years to completely be disenfranchised from the voting operations.
Like, there's no point.
unidentified
There's no point.
bassem youssef
Because this is what the right and left do.
They would kill each other, slit each other's throat over everything.
Immigration, healthcare, open borders, closed borders, the wall, militarization, everything.
But everybody will compete to be Israel's favorite bitch.
So now there is no point.
If you are like 50-50 of everything and you're only 100% on this one thing, there's something fundamentally wrong with this business.
unidentified
I agree.
bassem youssef
There's something fundamentally wrong with this.
candace owens
I guess you could say my red line was the Charlie Kirk assassination.
I'm like, if Charlie Kirk get killed in broad daylight and our states are colluding to cover it, there's only one state that would have that kind of power to make them collude to cover it.
There's only one state in the world.
Who's involved?
All you have to know is Israel is involved because it's a cover-up.
That's it.
There's only one nation that would be involved.
You got BB calling him.
Everyone's lying about it.
They're pretending.
I mean, BB going on a press tour immediately after to say, I did not kill you.
bassem youssef
We did not kill you.
candace owens
Charlie Kirk.
I didn't kill.
Whoa, buddy.
We haven't even, and Trump drops the tweet with him hugging the Israeli flag.
They were so obvious.
It was like, no one had a thought that you did anything until you started saying you didn't do it.
He loved us.
We didn't kill him.
bassem youssef
And I just want to talk to the people watching us, especially like America First People.
Forget Israel.
Forget everything.
I am just sick and tired that like my hard-earned money is going to sponsor the lifestyles of Israel.
You have free education, free housing, free healthcare.
candace owens
And Ukraine, by the way, because that's where they're actually from.
They're from Ukraine.
bassem youssef
But like I'm working for the benefits of someone else in a different country.
And this is what now we have the homelessness.
We have the problem with healcare.
And I say America is not poor.
The problem with America is that it lacks self-respect.
We are being like pushed around like this is some sort of BDSM economics where we're basically we're sponsoring them, but for somehow we are their bitch.
This is like dominatrix kind of level of like, you know, like slap my ass and take my money kind of thing.
candace owens
Yeah, Trump pulling out the chair for BB is like symbolic of everything.
bassem youssef
It's just like I'm, I don't know about evangelical Christians who are used to that kind of humiliation saying that like you're not even gonna be good enough as those people, but come on, have some self-respect.
unidentified
Yeah.
bassem youssef
It just pains me.
candace owens
Yeah, but and I say that about I immigrated for this.
unidentified
Yeah.
candace owens
Well, that's that's look at even the drop in testosterone over the years.
That's intentional, the mass poisoning of men, the water.
Oh, that's a fact.
bassem youssef
Do you think we're now Americans are flaccid because of Israel?
candace owens
Genuinely, genuinely, we are facing this, the testosterone crisis, as I call it.
I mean, because of the stuff they're putting in our water, the stuff they're putting in our food.
And over time, what that's done is we do have too many theatrical boys that really want to go to DC because they want to be on stage.
They want to go into media because they want to be on stage.
And this is my, and I know that you disagree with this because you're a little bit, you're more on the left.
I think that none of that stuff means anything.
But this is my ultimate contention with the pushing of the LGBTQ narrative is I see the more nefarious thing.
They do not want the kind of people that are going to stand up.
They want everybody obsessed with objects and buying stuff and the men doing their makeup.
bassem youssef
It's about identity politics.
It's not whether it's the LGBTQ, whether it's just like they want to attack on manhood is significant.
They want to attack.
They want people just like being have all of these fights between them.
candace owens
But the massive masculinity is what they hate the most.
True masculinity is what they know.
True masculinity is what they hate the most.
The kind of guy that's going to stay up and defend for his family.
That's what I'm speaking about when I say we cannot have this.
They are telling men it is wrong to be men.
That's they hate masculinity.
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candace owens
Full stop.
You can be anything you want, but don't be a man.
bassem youssef
So low T vibes.
candace owens
It's low T.
It's so low T. That's what I say.
Everything is fake and gay.
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Deliberate Attack Revealed 00:08:39
candace owens
Okay, we have comments.
Charlie's Angel, Charlie's Angels, writes, yay, Fercan is hosting him when he was on the Nelk podcast.
I don't think that they got the message that he was telling them that they were literally just used in the pattern and strategy that is employed on a much larger scale.
Yes, they were.
And I like the Nelk Boys.
They're great.
But it was very obvious that that was one of the podcasts BB could get on, by the way.
Charlie Kirk said no.
bassem youssef
I told them, like, you were recruited in 2022 and you were activated in 2023.
This is what they do.
They were like, I noticed there was like a, yeah, there was like a whole kind of recruitment that two, three years before 2023, as if they knew it was happening.
And they, they just like used all of these weapons once October 7th happened.
candace owens
They pursue talent.
Like I said, you're coming up.
I started my channel on YouTube by myself.
And if they think, oh, this person's got potential, they bring you in.
They pretend that you're your friend, they're your friends.
We're going to help you.
Let me help you in your path.
And then you divert from one thing they want, and suddenly you realize this is a gang.
This is a literal gang.
bassem youssef
And this is how I know I'm not talented enough because no one contacted me.
candace owens
No one contacted you.
unidentified
Damn.
candace owens
I'm so sorry.
I think it was a passport and not allowed.
bassem youssef
I guess you are the anti-Semite of the year.
candace owens
This person writes something important too.
Walter Mitty Hunter says, look at the suicide rate of the IDF soldiers who top themselves after fighting in Gaza, even though they are guilty of a new Holocaust.
There is very high suicide rate.
That is correct.
Because they probably figured out that it's you're a human.
And when you are murdering children, you kind of have to live the rest of your life knowing and hearing those screams and understanding what you were told to do.
You were brainwashed, you did it, but then you have the consequence.
bassem youssef
Yes.
And or you join Breaking the Silence, which is like the group of the IDF soldiers who they have a movement called Breaking the Silence, ex-IDF soldiers who speaks about the atrocities that they did.
And then now they come up and saying like what happened behind the scenes of their operations in Gaza and West Bank.
And it's been going on for years.
unidentified
Wow.
Wow.
candace owens
I would like to see that actually.
bassem youssef
Yeah, Breaking the Silence.
You can recently.
Yeah, you should look it up.
candace owens
Ama Musa writes, Ward Boston was a Navy judge advocate general who investigated Liberty, USS Liberty.
Before he died, he published a notario statement in San Diego Union Tribune that the investigation was a cover-up and the attack was deliberate.
I mean, the most obvious deliberate attack.
And it's interesting because the New York Times contacted me.
They're doing some big piece on it because they are realizing that this issue is now it matters suddenly.
And they were kind of trying to get to the bottom of it and found my video with Phil Turney because that got like 7 million views.
And we're going, what made you want to do this?
And why this now seems to be a litmus test for the right.
And I'm like, good.
I'm glad it's a litmus test for the right because it's absurd.
We didn't know that this happened.
And because Gen Z and all of us millennials are waking up going, if the government was willfully mass murdering their own military men and then covering it up, we still live in that system.
That means these people are still in power.
Until you can admit that the Liberty was deliberate, the psychopaths are still in power.
bassem youssef
It's interesting that you're getting that from the New York Times, where no one has its editorial team are full of people from ex-IDF and ex-Moussaad.
And this is just.
candace owens
The angle is anti-semitism.
bassem youssef
Yeah, isn't like the the NEW YORK Times, who had proudly published a piece like what they were saying there is about there is more tunnels inside the underneath Gaza more than the length of the New York TIME, the New York subway system, which I didn't know.
That Hamas were great builders.
They should come and build their our own infrastructure.
This is the NEW YORK Times.
This is the level of profession they.
They had like screams without voices or whatever this they.
They had like a whole piece about the rape, that rape hoax, which was completely fabricated.
There were Israelis that were mentioned in the article and said, like that didn't happen.
This is not what they told us, it's just, yeah, they did lie about the rape, which is crazy.
candace owens
Uh, Norm Finkelstein, I sat across and he explained everything thoroughly about how they lied about the rape and how he actually looked into it, and that's that is.
It's amazing because he's such an academic.
That's why nobody wants to debate him.
Yeah, because he's like, let me take the time and research this and to hear him speak about that.
But think about what kind of a person would make that up for propaganda, to say that babies were put in ovens and then to have us realize that that was all made up, it was all propaganda.
And again, the reason why it's never a good idea is because a slippery slope inevitably is okay.
Well, if you were lying about what happened october 7th, what else are you lying about exactly?
And that's that.
bassem youssef
That was me but but okay, they're lying.
What about the responsibility of American journalists and American media?
candace owens
Well, they built, they built the mirror.
bassem youssef
They don't even.
They don't even.
I mean all of the information that we got about the Hannel directive, about Israeli soldiers killing their own people, about the stand down operation.
We got this from Israeli media correct yeah, all of this in Israeli media, but not a single word about that in NEW YORK Times.
About CNN, nothing because they built.
Yeah yeah, but you will have Jake Tapper talking every single day about the fake rape stories, but he will never say anything about what's being reported in the Israeli media themselves.
candace owens
It is true, it is absolutely true.
Yeah uh, Katia writes Candace.
Please tell Baston that I loved him in the tv show Lioness.
As I'm Rohi.
Yes please, he is very handsome.
I think she's hitting on you.
bassem youssef
Oh please, I am, i'm crazy.
Yeah, thank you so much.
Yeah, I appreciate that.
candace owens
Yeah, there you go, thank you.
Project Constitution writes.
I agree with Phil Turney of the USS Liberty.
I interviewed him on my channel too.
His story is so powerful.
When you look him in the eyes you just there's something that just comes on spiritually, like this man he is.
He has held on to that day for decades and all he wants is for the men that died.
I mean this, I can't even think about it.
It honestly makes me choke up.
Just what he lived through.
He was 20 20, just a horror that you couldn't even imagine.
And then the moment where he tells about the IDF soldier and just describing where they saw the IDF people coming in and they were like, oh great, our friends are here.
And then all of a sudden his captain yells, prepare, we're about to be torpedoed.
And I, that moment of consciousness when you realize that your friends are the ones that set you up, you can't even describe.
You can't even think through that emotion where you're going.
He's like we had a little.
Uh, we had Star Of David's Idf.
Uh, sorry idea uh, Star Of David, Israeli flags inside of the ship because we were going out there to go protect them.
Yeah, We see these black helicopters were getting attacked.
We don't know who it is.
We think it's Egyptians, of course.
Because that's one of their preferred angles, blaming Egypt.
And so Egyptian planes on Charlie's assassination day.
bassem youssef
Yeah, we get blamed for everything.
And they get all of their credit for building the pyramids.
What the hell?
candace owens
So we're like, we're getting attacked by Arab nations.
And then suddenly you see these little IDF boats coming up and you're going, yes, okay, finally support.
And he's like, he's, and then he suddenly hears, prepare to be torpedoed.
And that IDF soldier then gives him the middle finger, made eye contact.
And to this day, people are gaslighting him.
They didn't know.
bassem youssef
Oh, they didn't know.
candace owens
It was a mistake.
bassem youssef
And then it reminds me about this one of the big talking points about Israel being our ally.
Because I asked them, it's like, why are there allies?
Why are their allies?
Why are we spending so much?
Oh, we spend that much money for intelligence.
candace owens
Yes, they can blackmail us.
bassem youssef
But for intelligence, but okay, so the point of view is Israel is a great ally because they will tell us so much info to protect our leaders, our troops.
In 1982, the very famous bombing of the American embassy, the American Marine Corps, 250, was it 250 Americans killed or 50?
I can't remember.
It's one of the biggest casualties for American troops in 1982 in Lebanon.
And there is a book by a Mossad agent called Viktor Ostrovsky.
It's called By Way of Deception.
That in that book, he said that the Israelis, the Mussad, knew quite well about the bombing, when it's going to happen, the Bloomer Cedes-Benz van that was going to be using the attack, and they withheld the information from the American troops and they said, well, let them deal with it.
candace owens
Yeah, of course.
It's a nonsense.
bassem youssef
And that book, By Way of Deception, was the only book in the history of American literature that there was a gag order for 24 hours.
They managed to stop that book for 24 hours.
It was the first and last ever gag order on an American book in the United States.
And that's 1992.
candace owens
Also, actually, there was Hollywood Babylon, too, and there's a reason for that.
They then changed it.
That's why they're obsessed with publishing rights because if they own your book, when you die, they can change what's in your book.
Publishing Rights Obsession 00:15:42
candace owens
It's unbelievable.
But Victor Otrowski also was on camera speaking about how Jeffrey Epstein worked for them.
And they're like, there's no evidence that Jeffrey Epstein was Mossad, except the Mossad agent who literally came out and said that he was working for the Mossad and the other Mossad agent as well who came out and said he was working for the Mossad.
But there's no evidence.
I love when they just say there's no evidence.
That's one of my favorite lies.
There's no evidence.
Just because you keep saying there's no evidence does not make it so.
But they believe if they just keep saying the same thing over and over again, it will eventually become the truth.
bassem youssef
They shout lies into becoming truth.
There's no evidence.
candace owens
There's no evidence.
There's no evidence he was.
unidentified
There's no evidence.
bassem youssef
It didn't happen.
candace owens
No evidence.
bassem youssef
It didn't happen.
candace owens
It did not happen.
bassem youssef
It did not happen.
candace owens
Zero evidence.
bassem youssef
That's a lie.
candace owens
It's crazy.
bassem youssef
You're just making this up.
You just hate us.
candace owens
There's an overwhelming amount of evidence, actually.
But their idea of evidence is when they are ready to admit it.
That's the thing.
bassem youssef
For them, evidence is just suggestions.
Like the same way we Egyptians treat traffic lights.
Just suggestions.
candace owens
Okay, Nad Bois writes, thank you for hosting this live stream and talking about the subject, God's justice and power.
Always win.
Flegliano writes, thank you both for your courage.
God bless you.
Sesame writes, hi, I'm from Sikh.
bassem youssef
I'm ready to accept Jesus Christ right now.
I'm feeling all of these crosses and all of these things.
I feel like I'm ready to get Jesus.
candace owens
It's working.
It's working.
Not my place rights.
When are you having the very public, famous, and influential Palestinian DJ Khaled on?
So he has the platform and opportunity to speak on behalf of the people of the nation that he came from.
I have a whole thing about the DJ.
bassem youssef
I don't think DJ Khaled is the right person to talk about.
Yeah, he didn't even talk.
candace owens
What kind of Palestinian is he, eh?
bassem youssef
Yeah, he's a kind of Palestinians who care about his Nike shoes more than his own.
candace owens
You should look into more DJs.
I covered this.
A lot of them are, you know, agents from the Matrix.
Avarice writes, This is how you know that Basim is new here.
College is not the freest place in the U.S. Come to the hood.
Yeah, you know what?
In the hood, that's what I keep saying.
It's not going to go down like that.
They're going to go in the hood and be like, okay, this is the last thing that we got to do.
Because we just have to, you know, take their phone stomach.
They can't talk about Israel.
That's what I'm watching.
I'm live streaming that because I'm like, don't think it's going to go that way.
I make the joke with Theo Bond because he comes over here for dinner.
I'm like, at the end of the day, it's not even a joke.
I'm like, America is going to be saved by black people.
And Milo said, he's like, it is the ungovernability of black people that you can bank on.
I'm like, we're going to save this nation because as you can see, we have this for some reason, there's just something within us that we're just like, no, actually, when they bring out the droids and they're going to take out the robots and they're going to be like, okay, we're going to control everything that you do and monitor you.
Who was the number one group that was not getting that vaccine?
You're welcome.
You are so welcome that you can always bank on the ungovernability of black people because at the end of the day, we're like wired toward freedom and we'll be like, okay, you're doing too much, government.
We're not getting that vaccine.
They were like, we'll buy you Nikes.
We'll buy you ice cream.
We'll get you tickets to see DJ DJ this or whatever.
And Black America was like, we're not doing that.
bassem youssef
Well, you know, Egyptians were practically Africans.
candace owens
Yeah, exactly.
bassem youssef
So we will be with you.
candace owens
That's what I'm saying.
bassem youssef
To take us with you.
candace owens
Yeah.
You can bank on that.
And that's, I think, what ultimately drove the Daily Wire crazy was like when they were like, oh, just do this thing.
And I was like, that's immoral.
I'm not doing that.
Absolutely not going to be governed.
Well, we have a contract.
I'm not going to be governed to say that it's acceptable to mass murder children.
Like, I don't care about money.
I don't care about contracts.
It's right versus wrong at a certain point.
bassem youssef
Before the show, you told me about your last episode in The Daily Wire.
candace owens
Yes.
It was what I think it was my very last.
It was my very last.
It was second to last.
Rabbi Barclay.
It was really retrospective.
bassem youssef
But that's what broke them.
But this is what they told you.
Like, you need to go.
But he didn't bring someone from pro-Palestinian.
You brought like an Israeli or like a pro-Israeli Jewish rabbi who was just like telling you all of these.
You just let him speak.
You didn't interject.
candace owens
He was so polite.
bassem youssef
And that was enough for them to kick you out.
candace owens
Rabbi Barclay is still one of my favorite interviews.
I think it exists somewhere on Rumble.
He was just so brilliantly a Jew supremacist.
Like he didn't even realize it.
Like they don't even know what they're saying.
They're so confident in what they're saying.
And they're like, let me explain to you why it's actually perfectly fine for Jews to murder people and why it's always wrong if somebody else says anything and insults a Jewish person, why the words of Kady West hurt much more than the bombs of Bibi Nett and Yahoo.
And I was just sitting there following him being like, okay, can I get a definition of anti-Semitism?
And he was like, whatever we want.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
candace owens
He literally said, it's a hate that mutates.
There can be no definition.
It's like, whatever we say tomorrow.
And I was like, am I tracking this correctly?
And I just let him speak and it was a disaster.
bassem youssef
But that's quote in the comments if you want to see Candace do an episode about like the behind the scenes of that episode, because I would love to see that.
candace owens
It was fantastic.
I still always say he is always welcome back.
I genuinely enjoyed it.
I was on a roller coaster of like just trying to follow.
bassem youssef
You can get him off.
candace owens
And then I realized, oh, I figured it out.
This is supremacy.
bassem youssef
Wait, wait, wait.
candace owens
You could probably get it.
bassem youssef
Can you invite?
Do you think he will come if you invited him on this show?
candace owens
I think he would.
And you know what he did afterwards?
He was like, I can help you.
And he told me that I could have a private screening of October 7th.
He was going to, they were going to bring the laptop to me to see what the Palestinian, what Hamas did.
And then I would understand why racism is fine as long as it's not.
bassem youssef
Isn't it something that we never saw that screening?
We never saw this.
candace owens
I was like, why can't you release it to the public?
bassem youssef
Two and a half years.
candace owens
You guys love that.
bassem youssef
And so, like, we haven't, there's stuff that we can all change.
candace owens
We could not show you why.
You show everything.
bassem youssef
I show everything.
Okay.
There is something about showing everything.
You know how people were talking about how IDF soldiers like film their, like them, themselves, like wearing women's laundry and playing with the toys of the kids that they just killed.
In any military in the world, there's discipline.
They will not allow this to be aired unless they give them the direct permission to just like show and film their atrocities as it's happening.
And I asked a professor about this, like, why are they doing this?
It's like they do that because they need the hate.
They do that because more and more people will hate Israel, will hate IDF, and some of people will not make the distinction and they will just like hate on the Jews.
It's like, see, anti-Semitism.
We are justified to keep doing what we want, which is crazy.
candace owens
Yeah.
No, I think you're actually.
bassem youssef
I think you should do the episode and even a bonus, bring that rabbi back.
candace owens
I love that, rabbi.
I do.
Deep down.
Because he remembered, I was like, oh, you just want me to just say like it's okay for you to be racist and that you're more important than me because like you're Jewish and so you're extra special.
And I was like, did you pay attention to anything I've done in my entire career?
Like I was willing to stand up to my own people on BLM stuff when it was getting ridiculous.
They're coming in on speech and everybody's a race.
I don't subscribe to this at all, whether it's a black person, a white person, or a Jewish person.
But I've finally hit the ultimate supremacy.
It's Jewish supremacy.
And if you do not bend the knee.
bassem youssef
There's another rabbi called Yusuf Mizrahi and he talks in his videos very openly.
He gives lectures in Los Angeles, in New York.
And just, first of all, he doesn't call him Jesus Christ.
He calls him JCPenney.
He makes fun of like, oh, JC Penny.
And he's like, those stupid Christians, they think that if they support Israel, it will bring back the Messiah, but it's not going to be their Messiah.
It's going to be our Messiah.
And he just like talks openly about how stupid Christians is, how stupid JCPenney is, how stupid all of this is.
And they're just like doing it for us.
And it is good to just use them for our behalf.
candace owens
No, you are.
bassem youssef
And by the way, I'm not, this is just like out there in the open.
These rabbis just talk openly about how stupid Christians and Muslims are and how they use them to fight with each other.
unidentified
Yeah.
candace owens
No, and I do believe that.
I think they believe that Christians are stupid.
And I think for too long, we have been not stupid, but we have been ignorant.
We've certainly been ignorant, and that's because...
bassem youssef
Well, if you have your own pastor standing...
candace owens
But we've also been under.
Yeah, exactly.
We've also been under one of the most intense psychological experiments, I think, ever.
America has been a psychological experiment.
And if we can control the media, if we can control the education system, you know, get them into school, if we can control Hollywood.
Yeah, it's pretty hard to wake up from that spell, but we're doing it.
I don't know.
I'm an optimist.
I feel like because they're growing, they're just becoming increasingly more unhinged.
This is losing control, right?
When they were cool as a cucumber and they didn't care and they weren't being all extra and firing people, they had power.
It's glitching.
It's glitching.
And we're happy.
That's the other thing.
They are miserable.
Every time you see them, they're angry.
They're ranting.
They're screaming.
They're saying that they're victims.
I mean, they're so vitriolic.
They're like, pull it up.
Did you see what they did to Tucker's brother?
Laura Loomer.
By the way, they're scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of influencers.
bassem youssef
You descend that slow, Laura Loomer.
candace owens
Yeah, they're desperate.
That means they don't have, they used to be able to get Charlie Kirk.
Now Charlie Kirk didn't.
bassem youssef
I still disagree that they are desperate because if they are desperate, they're buying everything.
I mean, they are desperate, but with a lot of money.
Yeah, but they have Larry Ellison taking away your TikTok, taking over your CNN and HBO and just giving you all.
They're just, they're angry and they have all of that.
candace owens
That's what makes them angry is they have all the money.
They're buying it and they still have no influence.
The numbers are not ticking upward towards Israel.
That's what makes them angry.
It's like, whoa, I'm a bajillionaire and I bought TikTok.
Why aren't the TikTokers saying they love Israel?
That's what drives them mad.
bassem youssef
Do you think it matters?
candace owens
I think it does.
bassem youssef
But if you have that much money to make the biggest country in the world just like direct its weapon to whoever country they want, maybe they tell you that they're sad that you're not on their side, but maybe they don't care.
candace owens
Oh, they care.
They care.
I think it's pretty obvious.
And get optimistic.
I'm telling you, I think we're going to win.
bassem youssef
But I'm a comedian.
I need to be pessimistic.
That's actually, that's true for my comedy.
candace owens
Yeah, it is good.
bassem youssef
I can't give you hope with my comedy.
I need to give you despair and laugh about it.
candace owens
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, we do need the comedians, though.
I'm telling you.
Like, Tim Dylan is, I'm ripping his content all the time.
One day he's going to send me a legal letter.
bassem youssef
Are you still Tim Trump?
candace owens
No.
unidentified
No.
candace owens
Epstein?
bassem youssef
No, no, no.
candace owens
No, that was it.
That was like goodbye.
I mean, there is, I do not go halfway with defending pedophiles.
Goodbye.
unidentified
Goodbye.
bassem youssef
So how would you define yourself?
Because I'm completely disenfranchised.
candace owens
I cannot say myself.
I'm disenfranchised.
And I love how they abuse me.
Talk about going back to your narcissistic abuse.
They literally are like, F you, you can't get into the country.
You can't get back onto a stage.
We're going to make sure you can never speak anywhere.
And then they're like, why isn't she telling people to vote for that?
Oh, oh, oh, she's got me number one podcast.
Why aren't you telling people to vote?
Are you out of your mind?
I hate all of you.
I think you guys are all a part of the same demonic entity.
Your God is Satan.
You guys are ball worshipers.
You will continue to kill and sacrifice children until you feel that that demon rewards you.
And I stand against you.
bassem youssef
You're intense.
unidentified
Yeah.
candace owens
This is how I feel about it.
They are satanic right and left at the top.
And that's why I want them to know is it's, I know, because of how committed these people are to Satan, because they literally hired Satanists to run psychological operations in the military, as we covered.
Michael Aquino.
And he's avowed.
Literally, Temple of Set was at Fort Huachuca.
Like they avowed, started his own Temple of Set, everything.
And that was the reason they hired him.
They're like, these are the qualifications we're looking for.
You got to listen to my podcast.
It's very interesting.
bassem youssef
I am listening to you.
candace owens
Yeah, no.
I'm not saying like, I'm not talking, this isn't like an allegory.
I'm saying literal Satanism.
bassem youssef
Oh, I remember that guy with his eyebrow.
I remember the eyebrow.
Oh, that's Aquino.
candace owens
That guy.
bassem youssef
He has another picture with more.
candace owens
He started his own church of Satan after he had a disagreement about with, he was in the church of Satan.
And then he had a disagreement with the guy who started the Church of Satan because the guy was like, well, we're saying like Satan has an idea.
And he was like, no, I mean like real Satan.
Like this Satan is not an idea.
So this was their great schism, the satanic schism.
And so then he started.
bassem youssef
So he's actually in the church of Satan.
He's just like a member of that.
unidentified
Yeah.
candace owens
And then he started his own because they had this schism where he was like, no, Satan is a real being.
And I believe in him as a real being, not an idea.
So then he started the Temple of Set, which is Satan is a real being.
bassem youssef
That's like Satanism on steroids.
unidentified
Yes.
candace owens
Wow.
And they then, the military was like, I like what you're doing there.
I like the idea of harming children.
Let's bring you in to run psychological operations.
unidentified
Yeah.
Okay.
candace owens
This is not a joke.
This is like, this is real life.
What I'm saying, I'm not saying this to be cute about like, oh, oh, they're satanic.
I mean, literally, we are fighting people that worship Satan.
Like that is what I truly believe.
These are like ball worshipers and they sacrifice children.
bassem youssef
He is into liberal arts.
unidentified
Yeah.
candace owens
Spells.
I mean, even the history of the Apollo program.
Jack Parsons, what was he?
He was a committed, avowed Satanist.
They were doing sexual rituals.
He was trying to summon demons.
And that's the problem.
What do they say?
Like the greatest trick Satan ever played was convincing the world that he didn't exist.
And I'm saying to the world, he exists.
And we're fighting these people who are doing everything in their power to make sure that he continues to have dominion.
But we're waking up.
We're recognizing that.
And I'm optimistic because inevitably I'm Christian.
Christ is king.
Truth is king.
Truth is winning.
And years ago, this would have never happened.
You and me, this combination wouldn't have happened.
bassem youssef
Where do I fall into the spectrum as a Muslim guy coming from?
candace owens
You did not 11.
This is like you're a Muslim.
You did that 11.
bassem youssef
By the way, I have a funny story about this.
I was actually in Miami weeks before 9-11.
I'm not making this up.
I'm not making this up.
This, okay.
All right.
So you want to understand my background before being a comedian and before being a satirist, you know, I was actually a doctor.
I was a heart surgeon.
candace owens
Okay.
bassem youssef
Yeah, I was a heart surgeon for 20 years before all of this.
So the year that I finished my medical school, I had like a year off before I started like my, I have like a time off before I start my residency and I saved enough money.
And I to summer 2001, I went to Miami.
Why?
Because I wanted to go there to teach salsa, to learn salsa.
And I became a salsa dancer and I came home and when I went back home, I was a cardiothoracic surgeon and I opened the first ever salsa school, salsa dancing school in Cairo.
I was doing that.
I have a very, very, very interesting background.
So 2001 in the summer, my return ticket from Miami was 17th of September, six days before, after 9-11.
And then my money ran out a week before 9-11.
So I just like changed my ticket and I came back.
And as I was just still like, you know, jet-lagged, my mom wakes me up.
She's like, wake up.
unidentified
What's up?
Look at the TV.
bassem youssef
And I see like the first tower going down.
I was like, oh my God, I was supposed to be there.
candace owens
Oh, my.
bassem youssef
I was supposed to be there in Miami where they actually had the training.
And thank God, like, I was broke before that happened.
candace owens
Well, thank goodness you were broke before that happened because it was crazy.
I mean, I just remember being like, I was like afraid of every Muslim.
I was just like, they did such a good job.
Everyone was in front of the TV screens.
They were just like, you know, it's the Muzzlos, Buzzwas.
It was a whole simulation, which lasted.
I mean, I was literally instilled in me to have, just be suspicious of Muslims.
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unidentified
Yeah.
candace owens
Like, they were training us up as these little sources, but really all they wanted to do was just like bomb things in the Middle East for Israel, obviously.
We were just following weapons of mass destruction, say okay to war in every country that Netanyahu mentions.
bassem youssef
If we believe them at that time, why do we believe them now?
candace owens
We don't.
That's why they're spazzing out.
bassem youssef
There's a lot of people who do.
unidentified
We don't.
candace owens
That's the whole point.
And that's why he's on camera and he's acting like he's in control.
We got to buy TikTok.
That's not BB in control.
BB in control doesn't say anything.
BB in Control is not doing podcasts in America after Charlie Kirk dies.
That's not objectively a smart decision if you're involved with murdering someone.
They just seem to be spiraling a little bit.
And I do believe we're going to find out who killed Charlie Kirk.
I do believe Israel was involved.
And I mean, I will find out who killed Charlie Kirk.
bassem youssef
Piers Morgan didn't like that when I said it.
It's like, oh, you're just like spreading conspiracy theorists.
Like, come on.
candace owens
I'm so tired of the conspiracy.
Like, just stop.
bassem youssef
Conspiracy theories now.
Anything that doesn't being get repeatedly.
candace owens
That hasn't been reported by Barry Weiss's CBS.
unidentified
Barry Weiss.
bassem youssef
She's such a great journalist.
candace owens
She can't even sit up straight.
She's my favorite because it's, I like that now they're just so naked about it.
You know what I mean?
They're just like in your face, blah, blah, blah.
This is not a meritocracy.
bassem youssef
They're like in your face incompetence.
candace owens
Yeah.
bassem youssef
They're just like getting like Ben Shapiro, Barry Weiss.
candace owens
Like they could have picked some smart Jewish Zionist and kind of like held on to the illusion that like, oh, maybe it's meritocracy.
You know, he's a really bright guy.
They're like Barry Weiss.
She's like the most unimpressive person.
And they put her there.
And so every day the hardworking employees who probably like, you know, graduated with top honors at schools have to walk, watch her walk in and pretend that she is, deserves to be there and is a serious person.
I love thinking about that.
Like she passes these cubicles every day to go to her big office and she has no shame.
She's just completely shameless.
She's just like, yeah, no, it's fine.
I'm allowed to be here.
bassem youssef
Now she's in control of Paramount Plus, which actually have Lioness, which I have like a great scene there.
So I think I'm going to be removed.
candace owens
Yeah.
unidentified
They're going to remove me from there.
bassem youssef
And she's going to meet yourself.
candace owens
So brilliant.
bassem youssef
Oh, she's brilliant.
candace owens
By the way, I want to say this before we get off.
Where can they go to support you?
You're on tour?
bassem youssef
Yes, I am actually having the Belly of the Beast tour, which is Belly of the Beast, which is basically talks about my experience as an immigrant coming and finding here coming my finding myself that I'm a citizen of the empire.
It's a very new, exciting feeling, like being part of this, which actually your story too.
You were in the Belly of the Beast in the Daily Wire.
candace owens
I was.
bassem youssef
And you came out.
I was out and I came in.
So we have like a tag.
Yeah, I'm actually like, my first, I will kick off the tour after Ramadan.
My birthday, 21st of March.
So 20th, I'm going to be in Portland, 21st in Seattle.
And I'm going to be in Philadelphia, D.C., Houston, Atlanta.
candace owens
Wait, the 20th are going to be where?
bassem youssef
20th.
I'm going to be in Portland, 21st, I'm going to be in Seattle.
candace owens
Okay.
bassem youssef
So that's my first two.
candace owens
But where can they buy tickets?
bassem youssef
www.bassimus.xyz.com.
candace owens
XXYZ, because X. You guys go buy tickets, go see him.
I mean, truly, watch in its entirety him on Piers Morgan.
I really think that's got, it's got to be the most views Piers Morgan has ever got.
That thing went absolutely viral.
And for very good reason, it was, it awakened a lot of people, myself included.
So anybody who's interested in suing me this year, you could also just sue him.
I think that's easier, probably.
bassem youssef
Come to my show.
candace owens
Everyone is like, oh, Candace is crazy.
She's have you considered going after him?
He's the reason that I did everything.
No one's been going after him.
It's a little bit ridiculous that I wanted somebody to the year when it was the entire thing was his fault.
I brought him on here to say that I didn't do anything.
I am a victim.
And if you want to sue someone, it should be Basim.
bassem youssef
Yes.
candace owens
Thank you guys so much for joining us.
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