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We had no internet, but we are going to make up for it with a show this Friday.
Anyway, what do I have for you today?
You guys already know that many people are upset with me.
And by many people, I mean the mainstream media and all of their cronies.
They're upset for a lot of reasons.
Foremost, because I mentioned the idea that Charlie's life may have been the Truman show.
How dare I?
Well, it's about to get a little more weird when I tell you something else that we have learned about the origins of the X-Men school that he went to in his youth.
I probably should have named the thumbnail, X-Men Origins, missed opportunity.
Also, we have, and they are seemingly very upset that we are going to share with you this conference call that I promised you.
Erica installed as the new CEO and chairman.
She headed up this conference call about 12 days after Charlie was assassinated, just after the memorial event.
And I'm going to allow you guys to listen to it to see how you feel about it, because I definitely feel a thing about it.
What that thing is, I don't know.
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Okay, so last week, I said to you guys that in the near future, we are going to do a maybe two episodes, could be a three-part series on Erica Kirk's past.
A few people online were very upset about that instantly.
Oh, how dare you?
How could you look into anything involving Erica Kirk?
Let me explain to you guys what's happening here.
You're probably wondering what it is that we are doing.
So I'm old.
I'm 36 years old.
Back in my day, there used to be this thing known as journalism, basic journalism.
It existed.
I know it seems very far off, but it would be considered probably back in my day literal insanity to allow someone to take over the reins of an organization that quite literally relies on the goodwill of the public, because it's a charitable organization, which happened to have raised over a quarter of a billion dollars following the assassination of its founder.
And then apparently, nobody's interested in doing a basic profile piece on the new chairman and CEO that took over.
Like that's that's actually that makes no sense.
And so that's what we are committing ourselves to.
We are doing a couple of episodes to separate fact from fiction when it comes to the background of Erica Kirk because the public deserves to know.
And like I said, it's basic journalism.
This entire idea that, well, Charlie wanted this, that just would fly probably actually nowhere in the world, not even in the old world, not even under monarchy rule in the 11th century.
In England, would that work?
You can't just say, oh, well, that was his missus.
That was his queen consort and hand her a kingdom.
Even under that model, it would be Charlie's son that would inherit Turning Point USA.
So stop doing that.
Stop saying that.
Doesn't make any sense.
The public is not biting.
I am not biting.
And to be clear, the more time that goes on, the more that we are seeing the general direction that this company is taking under her stewardship, the less we're liking.
The general public doesn't like it.
I don't like it.
And especially the recent bout of paranoia, where we had a bunch of employees who factually worked 20-hour days.
That fact, by the way, you are about to hear Erica confirm herself.
Those employees were then fired without even being given a clear reason as to why.
Just gotta go going in a different direction.
That doesn't exactly match what we were told as the public.
We were told that they're a family.
How dare anybody question anybody ever in the family?
Followed immediately, almost seemingly in the new year by get out.
We're just moving in a different direction.
Knock, knock, we're at your door, you fired, and you better hand me your computer or else.
We just want to know what happened here.
Anyway, being a 501c3 company, being a charity, becoming a charitable organization makes you, of course, accountable to the public.
Always, they are allowed to ask questions, even if you want to send out a bunch of cease and desist letters.
And thanks to this recent string of misguided firings, that's putting it mildly, we did happen to get our hands on an audio recording of a corporate-wide Zoom call, which took place pretty immediately following Charlie's memorial.
So, for clarity, this call took place on Monday, September 22nd.
So, this is 11 days, less than two weeks after her husband was publicly assassinated in front of the entire world.
It's important to remember that.
It's also less than 48 hours, about 48 hours after his private Catholic funeral mass, which the public was not privy to, but top-paying donors were.
That's also odd.
We'll save that for another day.
I just think that you should know that.
I want to plug that into our master timeline, which I know I keep promising you I'm going to publish.
I will.
So, we know on September 10th, Charlie is assassinated.
This is the bottom of the timeline.
On the 18th, this, by the way, strikes me as odd in the retrospect as I was working on these couple of episodes about Erica.
On the 18th, there's eight days after the assassination, she gave an in-person interview with the New York Times at her and Charlie's condo.
Okay.
Now, regarding the New York Times profile piece, I was totally in a cloud of grief by myself when all of that went down.
Okay, you remember I had to go away to Wyoming just to breathe, to process, to get closer to accepting that it was real.
I went away for two weeks.
I didn't, I didn't really catch the fact that it was an in-person meeting until later.
Eight days after his public assassination, she sits down for a piece with the publication that hated Charlie the entire time he was alive.
New York Times was constantly writing hate pieces about Charlie Kirk or pieces that just were not kind or favorable to Charlie Kirk.
So, it's an interesting decision.
And reading the article or rereading, because somebody said you should actually go back and revisit everything that transpired in the days after, and you kind of have new eyes, and that's very true.
But in reading that article in retrospect, something that I am particularly struck by is the fact that she describes suddenly being forced into the single mother position as the quote-unquote least traumatizing thing.
Becoming a single mother suddenly, eight days later, she describes that as the least traumatizing thing.
Again, that's an exact quotation.
I'll read it.
You could see it.
She's going into this.
They're speaking about Trump's energy and his tone toward her on phone calls.
And it reads, quote, from her, the president's tone, she said, was soft and embracing.
I could tell he wanted to hug me.
Others have responded in the same manner to Ms. Kirk, now left to care for a three-year-old daughter and a one-year-old son.
That new life, Ms. Kirk said, quote, is actually the least traumatizing thing for me, since she herself has been raised by her mother after their parents divorced when she was young.
And we're just supposed to pretend that that's completely normal or whatever.
I would figure maybe the least traumatizing bit would be something more mundane, maybe along the lines, if this was a thing, if Charlie constantly filled up her gas tank and someone was like, well, who's going to fill up your gas tank?
She might reply, that's actually the least traumatizing thing.
I don't even care about that.
That's just me filling up my car.
That would be like the least traumatizing thing.
Becoming a single mother after your husband is horrifically assassinated, realizing that your children are going to grow up without a father, a father who toured the world and spoke about the importance of fatherhood and relayed the statistics pertaining to the youth that grow up without their fathers in the home.
I would describe that as very traumatizing.
I think across the board, that's a traumatizing thing, not the least traumatizing thing by any stretch of an imagination.
Anyway, we are now in season seven, episode four of Everybody Grieves Differently, but that's weird.
Now, getting to this corporate call, again, can we just go back?
If you want to throw in that schedule again, sorry, the yeah, okay, great.
So we have this on the 10th, he's assassinated.
On the 18th, it's that in-person interview with New York Times.
On the 20th, we have the funeral mass, which is held at a church at 11 a.m.
On the 21st is the public memorial event that is held at State Farm Stadium.
And on the 22nd, which I had not mentioned before, I've been building this timeline in the background.
There's a private dinner.
Not going to mention what restaurant it's at, but the McCoy's are there, Elizabeth, Mikey, Erica, and they're in joyous spirits.
It's exactly what the email said of someone who was there.
They were in joyous spirits.
Okay.
Just want to get that.
I think a lot of this, when you hear this call that I'm about to play for you, again, I'm not trying to color your opinion, but I am going to give you mine because it's my podcast.
I'm allowed to do it.
I do want to remind you that Charlie has not been dead for two weeks.
That's where you have to go back to two, not even two weeks after Charlie was publicly assassinated.
Not a normal, he didn't.
We had to watch this.
We had to visually watch this.
Now, the entirety of this call, which we're not going to play, is 15 minutes long.
I'm going to figure out how to just drop it on my X feed.
But I want to make sure that we properly and fairly contextualize it.
So we're not being choosy.
We're not cutting this for drama.
The obvious point of this call to set this up is to introduce Erica.
She's a new leader.
Not even introducing.
She's just heading up this call, but obviously she's going to be at the helm of this.
So they're getting to know her.
And she does begin the call by being thankful to the entire Turning Point USA team for their work at the memorial event.
And if you do have a moment and you run into any of those staff members that you know that you know had a role in this and you know that they put a lot of their time and effort into it, just say thank you.
There's something really special to be seen in moments like this.
So if you are going through a time where just lay it to rest and we are moving forward, Turning Point USA 2.0 with Charlie in our hearts, and that's what he would want.
We're talking about numbers and metrics that have been hit.
And my husband's dead, not to be morbid.
That is a sentence that I, and this was not my husband, and I had no sort of the type of relationship that she had with him that I was able to utter.
Least of all, I mean, that's moving pretty quickly to the acceptance phase.
Now we know everybody grieves differently.
In my imagination, I don't, I just thought she would be more upset.
And I want to be clear: the overall mood of this call is extraordinarily upbeat.
It's extraordinarily happy.
But of course, as the CEO and chairman, she does have to address the elephant in the room, the morbid elephant in the room, if you will, because it's an obligation.
You have a new CEO.
The employees are working 20-hour days, but also their founder, Charlie, was publicly assassinated less than two weeks ago.
You got to address that.
And you're going to hear her address that by recapping to them that throughout these long working days, the employees were provided with ample resources while they were working.
Um, you know, some days are going to be tougher than others, but you know, take as take it as it comes.
And that's why you have your turning point family and just lean on them and lean on other people in your life that you know will help you and pour into you and pray with you to get you through it.
Um, I say that though, that if you do need more time to grieve, um, please continue to use um turning point USA's network of counselors.
I think we have 50,000 plus hat orders to fulfill.
I mean, I'm saying these numbers because it puts into perspective that we're not just sitting and thinking and looking at the wall, being like, what do we do?
There's a lot happening there, and none of it is what I would be expecting to happen there.
So basically, what the employees said to me was that they got onto this call and everyone's exhausted.
Everyone's been working.
They pull off this massive memorial.
And then there's kind of this approach where it's like, well, if you guys need paid time off, like Charlie's in heaven dancing, wanting you to work harder.
He's just up there, like, you better work.
But you can use the paid time off that you have earned, by the way, if you need to grieve more.
But imagine you're the employee.
You're like, okay, well, this is his wife saying this.
So am I weird?
Would I be like, I would be pretty weird if I needed to take time off and his wife is saying she's full steam ahead.
That's that's the mentality that they had.
Like, how, how are we supposed, like, are we weird for wanting to grieve?
Is that not the vibe?
How can we take paid time off when Erica's wife is saying full steam ahead?
It's very strange.
It is even kind of using this idea of Charlie being in heaven, looking down and the laughter.
I don't know.
I feel like the rest of you.
I feel uncomfortable.
And of course, now what we're going to listen to is her pivot to the future vision, because that's what the bulk of this is about.
And it's going to consist of the notebooks that I keep telling you the public is never going to see.
Apparently, what I gather from this is that Charlie presented to the staff a vision for 2025, but Erica is going to say that there was a vision beyond that all the way to 2030.
And there's a project 2030.
And then she's going to kind of want to say that she's happy, but then catch herself realizing that that would be kind of weird to say that she's happy.
And that's why Justin had been appointed the role of COO because he was literally, I remember phone calls when Charlie and I would take our night walks and it would be 10 o'clock at night and him and Justin would just be talking about the plans.
It's a really weird thing to say, but I think it comes from a space of peace, knowing that God's using this and we're humbly witnessing the gospel in real time.
I don't want to say I'm happy, but I, where it comes from, let me explain the happiness that I feel it comes from peace because we're witnessing the gospel in real time.
All of that, all of this makes my skin crawl.
It genuinely makes my skin crawl.
I'm going to go ahead and say that.
You can go find your commentator who's going to tell you everybody grieves differently.
Nope, we are.
That is less than two weeks after Charlie was publicly assassinated.
That's not, that doesn't, that doesn't feel right to me.
It doesn't feel right to, I would say, the majority of people, or that doesn't feel right, knowing that they're joyous at dinners.
And again, this is when people who did not know Charlie could not stop crying and were sending me emails, who've never met Charlie, who didn't even know what Turing Point USA was because they watched his assassination, could not stop crying and pull themselves together.
That is not the emotion that we're getting there.
Like I said, the entire call is upbeat.
And the portions where we are even speaking about grief, it feels like an obligation.
Like, you know, we've done, you got the dogs.
And what Charlie wants is for you to work now.
And that is how the employees that I've spoken to who were on that call, that's how they felt.
My assumption, by the way, why I'm addressing this now is because my assumption, watching everything that's gone on, my assumption was that she really was trying to figure things out.
I assumed in the silence, right?
She wasn't doing interviews then.
I assumed she couldn't get out of bed.
I assumed that she couldn't pick her head up.
And I felt that people were being unfair in judging outfits and in judging whether or not they liked how her hair was done.
I said, okay, she's speaking at the memorial.
We expect her to speak at the memorial event.
I felt the public was being unfair.
Now that we're kind of getting more on the inside of the organization, the now fired employees are telling me, no, it was quite the opposite.
She was in the office every day with Stacey Sheridan, running around with Stacey Sheridan, taking phone calls at Stacey Sheridan.
That's like the head of the fundraising for Turning Point USA.
So what I had imagined in my head was happening simply was not so.
Something is not right.
That's what I would like to say.
That does not, that call, the timing, the energy of that call does not feel right to me.
This, I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know what's happening, but I think we are inching closer to figuring out what's going on.
That's for sure.
And we will have more for you in the coming weeks.
It also led me to another stunning discovery that we have made in large part thanks to internet sleuths.
There was a lot of media panicking when we discussed Project Looking Glass.
We discussed the fact that Charlie was indeed a gifted child who went to a literal children's school for the gifted.
I told you guys also that street lights used to go out when he ran.
There's a whole term for that.
Apparently, a lot of people go through that.
We saw that in the comment section.
Now, what does it all mean?
On my episode, I posited that the military was keeping its eye on quote-unquote gate children, gifted children, different by different names, but terming it more broadly, children that go through the gate program.
That Charlie's life may have therefore been a literal Truman show once they realized that he was extraordinarily gifted.
So let me remind you that when Charlie was having these visions about his death back in 2018, he specifically told me that he knew from the moment that he began Turning Point USA that he was going to die young.
I'm going to re-show you this text message again.
You can see it.
Literally, he writes, since the beginning of Turning Point USA, I knew in my gut that I might get wiped out at any time.
I cannot explain it, but I dream about it all the time, like all the time.
Not really afraid of it, but I'm just telling you what I know to be true.
I'm not sure I'm going to live, begins with, I'm not sure I'm going to live to see the end of this revolution.
But interestingly, he says, since the beginning of Turning Point USA, we should probably therefore go back to the founding story of Turning Point USA.
The story the public knows, and the story that I was told is that Charlie was this teenager, didn't get into West Point.
Anyway, he's speaking at a conference where a man named Bill Montgomery happened to be in attendance.
He has since passed.
I met Bill Montgomery.
He's very kind to me.
And my point in bringing this up is not to throw any shade on him, but because I'm now interested in this origin story.
Anyways, he's an attendance.
He's absolutely floored at Benedict Dine University.
When Charlie speaks, he immediately knew that he was sort of looking at a future president.
This is an article.
I think it was done in the Atlantic back in, it doesn't matter what year.
Anyways, it reads, in the Atlantic, Montgomery was at Benedictine University in Western Chicago suburb of Lyle, Illinois, for the college's Youth Government Day in May of 2012.
The slate of speakers put the kids to sleep, he told the National Journal.
But when Kirk took the floor, the energy in the room completely changed.
The kids weren't sleeping anymore and their attention was wrapped on Kirk.
Inspired, Montgomery went up to him after his speech and told him, as only a man 50 years senior can say, that he needed to delay college to pursue a higher calling.
Quote, I don't know you, Montgomery recalled saying, but you need to start an organization to reach out to young people with your message.
A month after Montgomery met Kirk, the duo launched Turning Point USA.
I want you to hold on to that phrase, I don't know you, but again, that's the same story that I was told.
So I was a bit surprised to learn that there may be a larger story here.
Now, Bill Montgomery was Air Force.
He's in the Air Force Reserves.
Bill Montgomery also happened to be from Lincoln, Nebraska, getting into that one of those Egyptian plane stops.
A lot of these people are tied to Lincoln, Nebraska that are in this story.
Saving that for another day.
Now, not much is known about what specifically Bill Montgomery did during his time in the military, but we do know that he moved to the Chicago area thereafter, which obviously in the area where Charlie's X-Men School was, the X-Men School, I just like to call it that.
It was actually called Creative Children's Academy.
It opened in 1982 for the academically gifted from preschool up into the eighth grade.
In 1999, it changed its name officially to Quest Academy.
It tells us on its website, or I'm sorry, in a past article that it receives corporate and private funding from who we don't know.
I would like to know what corporations funded that academy.
What we do know is that it's a stone's throw from Northrop Grumman, the massive aerospace and defense company that has extensive federal contracts dating back to World War II.
Just put that fact in the back of your mind.
It may mean nothing at all, but I just want to say that because it came up when I was researching the general area in Palatine, Illinois.
Now, the Children's Creative Academy, I should tell you, was founded by a woman named Helene Barts.
Okay.
Her husband is a Reverend Robert Bartz of Arlington Heights, Helene Bartz.
Now, a tip that I received and I was able to confirm is that Helene Bartz was actually good friends with Bill Montgomery and his wife, Edith Montgomery, Edith Walker Montgomery.
She actually goes by her last name, Edith Walker.
The person claims that Edith Walker, who I've since learned emigrated from Germany after World War II, and I can't really find much else about her, became a, and this is correct, an adolescent psychiatric nurse.
So she was a psychiatric nurse to the youth, and that she was actually the person that started the school with Helene Bartz.
And that has since virtually been wiped from public record, but that that's what you're missing is that these people all knew each other.
The person claims that Bill and his wife and a certain Robert Flood, who is in Dan Flood's family, this is what they claim.
And I have since found this person, said that they knew each other since before the school even got started.
They were all working for this evangelical company, evangelical sales force known as the Shackley Corporation.
It's still in existence today.
I'm going to give you a bit of information.
The Shackley Corporation was the first company that ever created a multivitamin in America.
It grew to be a massive, basically a middle-level management corporation, which, like I said, commanded this evangelical sales force.
Shackley was basically described as like a religious fervor that was sweeping the nation for nutrition.
It was started by a man who preached the gospel of nutrition, buy our products, but also the gospel is what this is really about.
And it grew to be a massive company that engaged in a 25-year contract with NASA.
You're like, what?
Yeah, for supplements that they could take to space.
Now, it sounds to me like some good old-fashioned government money laundering, but sure, if you are like Skylar and believe in the moon landing, sure, maybe you need some vitamins up there.
Now, working off of this tip, I was indeed, like I said, able to confirm that Helene Barts, so again, to give you these names, Helene Barts, started the school, and I confirmed that she did indeed prior to worked at Shackley.
She actually ran the Shackley Center in Arlington Heights.
I also was able to confirm that A. Robert Flood, who knows who this is in the Flood family, also worked for Shackley.
He looks a lot, this particular Robert Flood looks almost identical to Dan Flood, in my opinion.
I will say that.
I have not personally confirmed who he is in this family, but apparently the floods are kind of a big deal in Chicago.
And some people say that the Flood family, not saying this particular flood, you know, they got a garbage industry thing going.
And it's a bit soprano-like.
You know, we are in the waste management business or whatever.
Anyways, that's Robert Flood.
And like I said, I confirmed that they were all friends.
Helen Barts was friends with Bill Montgomery and Edith Walker Montgomery.
I'm having a lot of trouble.
And the reason why I'm putting this out there is I'm having trouble learning more about Bill and Edith.
Like where did Bill serve in the military?
Why specifically did he move to Chicago?
Where in Germany is Edith Walker from?
Who was her first husband?
Because Walker was clearly not her first name when she moved here.
Where exactly was she a psychiatric adolescent nurse?
Again, using her full name, Edith Marie Walker in Arlington Heights, where Charlie grew up.
Did she see Charlie?
Is that a plausibility?
I would say yes.
And I know that Charlie told me the story that they wanted to drug him when he was a kid, but his mom said no, my kid's a genius.
And instead, because his mother refused, they instead put him into this special school.
Again, this is investigation, maybe it leads nowhere, but this is sure as hell interesting enough for me to put it out there.
Mostly because the idea that everything we know about Turning Point's origin story could also be incorrect is equal parts terrifying and fascinating.
It would give new meaning to the idea of his life being the Truman Show.
That's, I think that's fair to state that.
If you have any more information, please message us.
Send us an email at more tips at CandaceOwens.com.
Maybe your research will be better than mine, but I am particularly interested in Edith Walker, Edith Walker Montgomery, and where she came from in Germany and who her family is.
Was all very fascinating and interesting time in America indeed.
Anyway, we'll take a brief break here before we come back and give you an update on the internet sleuths after I gave you that message, which sure read like a threat from a Christian Zionist.
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Okay, let me connect some dots for you here.
I see somebody in the chat.
First off, you guys are freaking out about listening to that call.
It makes everybody uncomfortable.
That is normal.
And now we are going to have to deal with the next psychological operation that tells us that it's wrong that we listened to the call.
Goodbye.
We don't care.
Something's not right.
We sense it's not right at Turning Point USA.
And it feels like the people trying to get to the truth are being penalized.
Okay.
Now, I do want to say to you what is particularly, I found to be interesting about this Bill Montgomery angle and this Shackley Corporation and their contract with NASA.
And you've got to go way back.
You've got to go way back to my episode on the moon landing and why I don't believe the moonlanding happened.
Because Operation Paperclip, which somebody has called out in the chat already, Operation Paperclip, was when we went over and we got these quote-unquote scientists, scientists, Nazis from Germany, and we brought him here.
And we're supposed to go, oh, that's all fine that the CIA did this because now we have, we have the Apollo program.
We went to the moon.
But what if we didn't go to the moon?
What actually did we bring these scientists over for?
These are the questions that I ask myself because I don't believe we went to the moon, but I do believe we brought over these people and these families.
And I think they were demented people and they were sick people.
And we bury Project Monarch, which was the precursor to MKUltra, Brigitte Macron's trigger in the lawsuit.
Don't break up MKUltra, the precursor being Project Monarch, where they were intentionally harming children, trying to sort of abuse people into compliance, mind control.
So that's interesting.
That is interesting.
And now we are seeing a bunch of people, and I really do believe that these are the white walkers in our society, that these people are among us, that people are mind-controlled slaves, literally, which was the entire purpose of Project Monarch.
If you follow my idea, the moonland didn't happen.
My fact, if you want to follow the facts, the moonland didn't happen.
And that would basically mean the CIA was bringing over perverts, like just bringing over a ton of perverts.
And I'd like a list of their names.
And I am very interested in how much NASA comes up in a lot of the stuff that I am researching.
Now, this brings me to the most savage internet thing I've ever seen happen.
Credit to At Brave Reports.
Some of these smaller accounts that just savage, I showed you guys this message.
I said turning point's not going to come out and tell you who wrote this message.
This Zionist who is spelling, like you guys noted, God putting a dash there.
You guys are like, that's not how Christians would write this.
It turns out that, well, Lori Cardoza Moore, the Brave Report pulled up as an evangelical Zionist who said that she then learned later on that she's Jewish, but she is still an evangelical.
She's a maniac.
I mean, there's no question she's a maniac.
And virtually everything that was said in this text message was also a rant that Lori decided to do live on the internet pertaining to Tucker's totally sensible speech.
Crossett, with his mocking voice and his mocking laughter, they were horrified by what they saw.
I had three couples reach out to me who had been to the Turning Point USA conference.
And this was in Tampa a couple weeks ago.
They called me and said they were horrified by what they saw.
Horrified.
They saw Tucker Crossett get up and act like another crazy person talking, condemning Israel, praising Qatar with his mocking voice and his mocking laughter.
So Tucker, I spoke with her personally.
She said 10% in the room got up and walked out on her.
That is shameful.
Then Charlie Kirk, this is his event.
He's responsible for what people are saying and doing.
Does he get up and condemn Tucker or correct Tucker for what he said about Israel and how dangerous Qatar is to us?
Yo.
Did Charlie get up and defend Michelle Bachman?
Did he condemn the people that got up and walked down on her and that burned her?
You gotta absolutely just sell, sell, sell, as this is, this is going down.
You just see, this is obviously, it's almost like they just hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be Christians.
That's the vibe that you start to get when you realize this is the only thing they care about.
This is all they care about.
And they will rant and they will rave and they will scream at you.
And in case you are wondering why so many of them seem to have these extensive acting backgrounds, you can look no further than Lori Cardoza Moore because these internet sleuths aren't playing around.
The DCIA, the decentralized intelligence agency, is moving quicker.
And they found that, yeah, that's what Lori's background is in acting and for romance hotlines and things of the sort.
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I don't, if you're in Texas in the 60s, especially, I got to know who your granddad is.
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I need to know who Stanley Clark's father was.
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I feel like this, this is important somehow.
And there's just a lot of military ties in all of this everywhere.
I mean, even because we're kind of everywhere, someone messaged me and let me know that Turning Point is shooting their Super Bowl commercial here in Tennessee, in Nashville.
And they're working with this company where the CEO is from Lockheed Martin.
It's just everywhere.
It's military connections everywhere at all times.
And I do kind of feel like the military cult has been in power since LBJ helped murder JFK, set him up, and then I think cleaned house and put in his guys in the military.
That's how I feel.
Anyways, not at the bottom, obviously, tons of brave American men and women who serve, but serve who?
That's the question.
Anyway, I just wanted to very quickly comment because people were pinging me on this about Kanye taking out a full page in the Wall Street Journal to apologize.
Kanye's apology also sat down with Vanity Fair or answered questions for Vandy Fair about this apology, whether or not he means it.
Speak about his bipolar episode, said that he is on new meds, that 2025 or 2024 was a tough year for him, and there, and that this is not a PR move, that he is sorry to the people that he hurt.
I just want to just broadly say this, because this comes up all the time.
There's always this, Candace, Yay.
I love Yay.
He's like a brother to me.
I am never going to turn my back on Yay.
I'm here for the Yay of all seasons.
He and I agree on many things, disagree on many things at all times.
If he wants to apologize to people that he specifically has hurt, he is welcome to do that.
And of course, for people that are now trying to construe this and attach and put Candace, this has nothing to do with my viewpoints whatsoever on Israel, people who mass murder children.
So I support Ye in everything that he does, you know, and if I don't support him in anything, I will speak to him directly.
So I just wanted to state that because people were asking me, what do you think about this?
It's Yay.
Yay is always doing something, whatever he wants to do.
And the reason why he and I get on so well is because Yay's got to be Ye and Candace has got to be Candace.
It's just how it works.
Anyway, we'll take a brief break and then I will get to some of your messages as I see the chat lighting up with that regarding that call that we just played, that Zoom call.
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Okay, reading for you guys the top comment from last episode, Michelle wrote, didn't Erica Kirk say that no one can talk bad about her TPUSA family, but then she fires them without a reason?
Make that make sense.
It doesn't make any sense.
And my general opinion now is that she is, this is in my opinion, since we caught Andrew Colvet with the parent tactical, parent, paramount tactical tweet, holding it that she's orchestrating a lot behind the scenes and keeping her hands clean.
I think that.
became very obvious to me in that moment.
And then going backward and finding that these are, she's not misspeaking.
I mean, sometimes she's just saying a lie, right?
I lived in China.
No, I didn't live in, I never lived in China.
Then you go backward and you go, you know, I didn't never date anybody.
And people are constantly trying to clean that up.
It's like, you don't say I didn't date for five years if you did date for five years.
And then they're like, whoa, no, just meant in New York City.
Like that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard that you just, that just makes no sense.
If you had a boyfriend the whole time you were in New York City, but he happened to live in Philadelphia, you don't say I didn't date for five years.
That's, that's not what you say.
You could say I didn't date anybody from New York City, but I'm kind of getting tired of everyone like extending things and not just calling out something that's just not true.
It's just not true.
Becca writes, when Erica talks, she is so boring.
She has not had that special thing that Charlie had.
And it will be the end of Turning Point USA if they don't make a change fast.
She is unlikable on the surface because she acts elite.
Goodbye, Turning Point USA.
Well, it's interesting that you say that because that, as I told you, was the feedback that a lot of these employees who got fired had.
They had no access to her.
It didn't feel like Charlie.
Charlie felt accessible.
They knew what his vision was.
He was that way, genuinely was that way.
He was certainly not an elitist in any way whatsoever.
Like I said, dude didn't even want to buy, even when he had the money, just buy himself a suit, go to a tailor and things of that nature because he wanted to be a good steward of Turning Point USA, the money that's coming in, because obviously the majority of the money comes from small pocket donors.
And it seems like every effort that they are exerting is to go after people who are trying to find out the truth about what happened to Charlie Kirk.
That doesn't make sense.
You can't make that make sense.
You can't make a call like that make sense to people.
Jay Berger writes, don't forget, MLK started college at 15 and had a faith-based movement by the time that he was 21.
I actually did not know all of that.
I am ashamed of myself.
Coffee Addicted Mama Bear writes, I ordered your book the second you said you were shipping to Canada.
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We now ship to Canada.
It was truly eye-opening.
I'm sure you had a good time reading it.
It's very funny to go backward and to realize where feminism has gone.
It's just very funny and sad and weird.
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Adriana, New Jersey writes, Erica plays a role that she thinks men want.
She did not have the same values as Charlie and now is pedaling back.
The comment in the New York Times was, who needs a man?
Being a single mother is okay.
That is the opposite of Charlie's views.
I can't justify that comment.
To refer to it as the least traumatizing thing is, I think, what bothers me.
The least traumatizing.
Huh?
It's traumatizing, full stop.
It should traumatize you full stop.
Joseph Brown writes, Candace Owens, Curious Joel writes, geoengineering has become really fake and gay.
Sidewalks at my apartments were covered in ice.
It was like styrofoam.
I could walk to my work on them, no problem.
The ice literally had a grip.
H-A-A-R-P must be drunk.
We could speak a lot about geoengineering, and I believe that it would lead us to NASA's doorsteps because I don't think they've been trying to get to the moon.
I do think that during the Korean War, as we learned throughout that chaos book, that we were experimenting with spraying, spraying people, spraying products.
And I think that that is the true reason that our true reason that NASA came together, mass poisoning people.
I believe that.
Daggo, Bert, our Dagber Jonah writes, Candace, can you wish my beautiful wife Crescenda Arjona?
I hope I'm saying it right.
I said, Arjona, probably.
Crescenda Arjona, a happy birthday.
Crescenda Arjona, happy birthday.
I hope that's Spanish.
If not, then this is just weird.
But thank you so much for your support.
You write that she's a big fan of mine.
God bless you.
God bless you and Crescenda Arjona.
If it's not Spanish, it is now.
Seven Sheets writes, I didn't know that much about CK before this, but could tell a man of integrity.
I feel like I mourned him longer than EK or TPUSA did.
I'll never believe the slop and will support any voice that is seeking truth.
Thank you.
God bless you.
There's something about this story that I think makes us all feel like we're not safe.
Like if they could do that to Charlie and he was playing the game and get away with it, what are we all doing?
Like we should just be revolting at all hours of the day.
I can't even listen to anything Trump says anymore.
I don't care about anything at all.
I'm just like, shut up.
I hate everybody.
You're all fake.
You're all actors, actually.
That's how I feel.
I look at all of them as bad faith actors in the political scene.
And none of it is sincere.
Comic Nick writes, I said this last week, and I need the world's opinion on this, but why wouldn't Charlie Kirk tell Erica Kirk that they were going to kill him unless he was scared that she was a part of it?
Of they?
Oh, unless he was scared that she was a part of they.
This is all I think about when you see her.
If Truvis is evil, well, to be charitable, it could also be in a scenario that is maybe more chivalrous, that men don't want their wives to be concerned about certain things, because there have certainly been things that, and again, this is a charitable read, but that my husband has not told me until after.
I'm like, what?
Were you just keeping that in forever?
Like a soldier, we were dealing with this or whatever, and he just dealt with it and then told me after.
So it could have been just giving you another angle on that.
He could have not told her for that reason.
I'm less inclined to believe that Andrew Colvett and Dan Flood didn't tell her afterward, that she had to rely on his sex messages, that that wouldn't be the first thing in the investigation that the feds would ask: hey, did Charlie have any fears?
And that they wouldn't inform his next of kin of those things, especially Dan Flood, as she's a chairman and CEO, and therefore presumably actually could just take his sex messages and read them if she wanted to.
Yeah, that is less believable than the fact that Charlie would maybe not tell her the night before.
Cecily writes, I'm so sorry for you to hear this, Candace.
My cousin passed a week after Charlie, and it is still so hard for me to say that he has gone to talk about it.
Can't imagine that much joy in my voice.
Again, I'm so sorry for you.
You loved and grieved Charlie so much.
I think I felt a bit like the employees.
Like, what am I doing wrong here?
That I have to go away and cry for a long time.
And I cried on air, which is that's never happened before.
And everyone else just kind of seemed giddy.
That's the only way I can describe it, like giddy.
When that person said they were joyous and giddy at Charlie's favorite restaurant, which I chose not to name, that was how I felt listening to the call.
And I'm just going, guys, this is less than two weeks after that motion.
That emotion shouldn't be possible.
It shouldn't be possible, actually, In my view, Maria R. Wright's, hey, Jolly Valley girl.
Oh, sorry, pardon.
Her Jolly Valley girl tone, excited to be discussing business numbers and goals, is super cringe and weird.
This is beyond grieving differently behavior.
We all have common human instinct to sense these things.
Love you, Candace, from Vegas.
And that I agree with you, that they're trying to pervert.
Like there is no commonality.
They're kind of giving us the MoMA.
The MoMA is modern art where you go to the MoMA museum and there's a toilet and it has scribbles all over it.
It has graffiti on it.
And they're like, this is art.
Art is in the eye of the beholder.
It's like, that's not art.
It doesn't matter how many times you say it.
That's not art.
There is such a thing as objective beauty.
And that ain't it, my friend.
It's a toilet.
And you're just trying to see if you can get me there.
It feels like we're in the MoMA.
And they're going, everybody grieves differently.
Some people grieve with happiness and laughter because it feels good because it comes in waves.
And it's like, nope, I don't think so.
I understand even working to get through things.
I'm a person that has to work to get through things, but this is not that event, even for that, to have to work through something, become a workaholic, because you have to deal with the emotion of watching somebody that you know and purport to love be publicly assassinated.
And I'm going to say that as a rule, it takes longer than less than two weeks to get out of bed, to do the thing.
I don't know.
I, that's, that would be my opinion, but what do I know?
What do I know?
Just happy rights.
And to think that all I thought about on September 10th was how empty and terrified Erica must feel and how sad I was for those babies, how ironic crisis can keep going, Candace.
That's why I also think it was important to share this call because we all were there thinking that.
For those of us who did not immediately find her to be suspicious in any way, we assumed that that's what she was going through.
And now that assumption has been removed.
And that's something that is a thing that we all now must digest.
And like I said, there's a lot more that's coming out because I think a lot of these employees are realizing it was a cult.
And they're, I mean, there's almost like a psychological operation being run on them.
It's like, if you need to use your pay time off, we'd understand, but the wife is full steam ahead.
But if you need to take that time off, you've earned that time off.
You need to take that off to grieve someone who's like not your husband, that's fine.