The Past Is Prologue: Why Charlie Kirk Was Murdered | Candace Ep 287
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Sorry, I am running late, but I was just doing so much research.
I have so much to tell you all today.
So we have to jump right into this because I actually have a horror story for you, an actual real-life horror story for you.
Someone called me last night and told me a very strange story about what happened to her back in the 90s at an evangelical university.
But first, we have to revisit Brian Harpole's story about how far in advance they typically planned security because someone has leaked to me another glaring oddity in this security protocol.
Let's jump right back in.
Welcome back to Candace.
Do you know what I think?
I think that whoever made the decision for Brian Harpole to sit down with Sean Ryan made a terrible mistake.
Big PR mistake, PR nightmare.
That's kind of been the story here.
One long, bad PR decision after the next, because the issue is Brian said too much.
The internet is meticulous.
The internet is clocking them every sentence.
It's really easy to catch people in inconsistencies and then to keep replaying what they said about certain things, especially when they don't add up.
So I would like to gently remind you all back at home what Brian Harpole said about what typical preparations entail for Charlie Kirk events.
Take a listen.
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Let's move into the threat assessment and the pre-planning for the event.
We generally, the permitting process and all that goes on behind the scenes.
And then there's a questionnaires that are filled out that we used to, there was a lot of busy work.
And then so, you know, kind of like in the military, what you did, we create forms that, hey, let's get this information up front and so that we have a duplication process so that we can confirm it.
And so we started our first before that one, the 24th of the month prior.
And so, and that was with the hard conversations meetings.
Obviously, elsewhere in the interview, he describes this conversation that he had with the chief of police.
He's upset about the chief of police not covering the rooftops because he feels that his team was on it.
So on it, you're coordinating with whole police departments.
You're discussing drones.
Drones were not allowed.
And so they just had to let that go.
Well, interestingly enough, I received a tip from someone that was directly involved with the planning of an event that Charlie Kirk was supposed to attend the following day.
On September 11th, the day after his assassination, Charlie was slated to speak in Woodland Park, Colorado at the Charisse Bible College.
Okay, so that's in Woodland Park, Colorado.
He was slated to speak there.
And according to this person, after Charlie got assassinated, there was a bit of a panicked meeting that took place, which was headed by the chief of police.
They decided to transform this event into a vigil.
And they were panicked because, believe it or not, they had absolutely no security plan in place.
They thought, how odd.
We don't have a security plan in place.
Now we better consider this.
And we need to make sure that we have police officer involvements.
Why didn't Dan Flood and Brian Harpole and Turning Point USA's security have any coordination with the police departments up in Colorado?
If this is what they normally do, and the way he over describes that, and they get the plan and everybody can access and start to begin to speak.
And then we speak to the police on him.
We do all this stuff.
We just didn't think to do that for the event that he had the next day.
No police officer involvement scheduled, nothing.
Suddenly they're panicked because they realize they don't have anything scheduled.
Yeah.
So the police chief apparently decided to take measures himself to make sure that the vigil went off without a hitch.
That's what I mean when you lie a lot and when you're planning things that you're not supposed to be planning, you don't think through every detail.
Yeah, as in the next day, if you expected Charlie to make it to September 11th, you would have been communicating about what he was doing up at the Charisse Bible College.
Anyways, moving on to other news, I want to show you this working Excel sheet that I quickly put together today.
So it is by no means perfect, but I was telling you that throughout this investigation, I have noticed some recurring themes that have come up.
I don't didn't really know what all this means.
I still don't know what all of it means, but I wanted to start jotting this down and putting it together so that it looks clean.
We can just add another name every time a name comes up in any of these categories.
This isn't how you're really supposed to use Microsoft Excel, but it's how I'm using it so that it looks neat.
If you just look over here at the columns, these four themes that I'm identifying, and I'm going to add more, Liberty University, Eastern Europe, trafficking and child sex abuse.
And then in that final column, military.
These are just themes that I recognize keep coming up.
So Liberty University, very quickly going through this, Tyler Boyer attended and he graduated.
Erica Kirk attended and she graduated.
Cabot Phillips attended and he graduated.
Mikey McCoy was accepted into Liberty University, but then he chose not to attend because he got the job at Turning Point USA instead, and he went direct there after high school.
It should be noted that his father, Rob McCoy, met Charlie Kirk via Jerry Falwell Jr.
He was the president of Liberty University until there was a sex scandal, a fallout.
Andrew Colvett, I'll tell you what his connection is.
Andrew Colvett was working PR for the Kairos company under Johnny Moore.
Johnny Moore was the lead pastor at Liberty University prior to then leaving Liberty University to start the PR firm.
And Johnny Moore is an important name for those of you who watched.
Tucker Carlson had interviewed someone in the military.
He was speaking about what was happening in Gaza, how children were literally starving, how children were being shot at for fun.
Bizarrely, they decided that Johnny Moore, Reverend Johnny Moore, is it Reverend Johnny Moore?
I don't know.
He was somehow equipped to lead the Gaza Humanitarian Fund, and he gets this role.
Essentially, you're going to distribute your organization, you're going to be the head of distributing the food to the children of Palestine, the families of Palestine.
And obviously, we know how that went.
IDS soldiers are just killing them.
And so he does a lot to say, I have no idea why he got this position.
It seems remarkably corrupt.
Anyways, I wanted to let you know who that Johnny Moore was.
He was just running PR.
He's a PR guy like Andrew Colvet, who was under him.
And then Andrew Colvett leaves Kairos and decides to mint his own PR firm that's really just around Charlie Kirk, really, as his only client.
I believe that's his only client at Turning Point USA.
Then you have the Falkirk Center.
I'm going to put that in the same category in case you don't know this.
What happened was Jerry Falwell Jr. and Charlie Kirk decided to come together to establish the Falkirk Center.
This was actually Turning Point USA, the precursor, Turning Point USA, right?
So he meets Rob McCoy.
They start discussing putting this together, the Falkirk Center.
And then Jerry Falwell has this huge sex scandal.
He's forced to step down.
It's like this pool boy scandal.
He's forced to step down from Liberty University.
And now this project just, they go, we can't go forward with this.
This is hugely embarrassing to the university.
This is now going to be a relic.
By the way, at that time, Erica Frantzi, because her and Charlie were not yet married, they were dating.
She became a Falkirk Fellow.
They were kind of hitting the road together and working to make the Falkirk Center a thing.
And so what happened after it fell apart was that they decided to instead create Turning Point Faith.
That's important for you to know that, this origin in Liberty University, because I'm going to tell you more in a bit.
Now, regarding Eastern Europe, remember that plane that sort of mysteriously, people thought it turned off its transponder.
They issued a statement saying they didn't turn off their transponder.
It flew from Provo, Utah into Arizona.
And then he said, we were just picking people up.
Well, I'm putting that under because in investigating that, I determined that, oh, interesting, they were formerly registered.
That plane, pardon me, was formerly registered in Romania back in 2013.
The tail number was then YRNVY.
Almost looks like Navy there, Y-R-N-V-Y.
And then in 2015, so from 2013 to 2015, that plane was registered in Romania.
Interesting, okay?
Doesn't necessarily mean anything.
I'm just telling you that this is when these things have come up.
Obviously, we know that Erica Kirk began the Romanian Angels project in late 2012, early 2013, through to 2015.
And obviously, you have seen all the TikToks describing the scandal.
And to explain that to you, just to kind of separate the myth from the facts of this, I'll tell you what the facts are.
The facts are that Lori Fransvi established the Everyday Heroes Foundation, which was supposed to help children in need.
That was established in Arizona under Erica's mother's name, Laurie Fransvi.
What they decided to do, as charities do, is that they developed certain projects and certain missions.
And what spun out from Lori's charity was the Romanian Angels Project.
And they got this deal with the military.
They worked with the military in Romania to help orphans.
Okay.
Now, it is a fact that they worked with at that time Colonel Otto Busher.
Colonel Otto Buscher was then accused of running a brothel with young children, taking them onto the military base for himself, his sexual needs.
A woman filed in Romania and said, this is what's actually happening.
These children are going on to the base and they're being prostituted to military men.
So it was not, there is no articles that say Erika Fransvi or Laurie were involved in this, but it is a fact that they were working on the Romanian project with Colonel Buscher.
They thanked him.
And then Colonel Buscher gets accused of running a Romanian brothel with Romanian children.
Those are the facts of that.
In 2011, Tyler Boyer also went to Romania to work with the Romanian government.
I am still trying to determine exactly what he was doing with them.
I'll have more on that hopefully later.
In 2013, Tyler Boyer posted a photo of himself with a Ukrainian orphan named Natalia.
She doesn't, he says in the post, or his wife says in the post, current wife says in the post that she doesn't speak English, Natalia, and he claims to be helping through an adoption agency program, helping her because he speaks Russian.
She is 12 years old and she's an orphan from Ukraine.
She's staying with my friend Aubrey and her family for the holidays through an adoption agency program.
She does not speak English.
So Tyler was able to go and talk with her in Russian for over an hour tonight.
She was shy at first.
By the end of the visit, she was hugging him and asked him not to leave.
It was a wonderful yet heartbreaking experience.
All at the same time, it makes me so grateful for all that we have.
Thank you to the OBS report for letting us be a part of Natalia's stay.
Okay.
Next, we have Turning Point USA, obviously working with Pastor Greg Laurie, despite Harvest Church being accused of trafficking children from Romania.
Okay, sure.
He says that's not true.
That's not what we were doing.
People say, yeah, it's exactly what you were doing.
We don't know.
We don't have a verdict on that because that's happening currently.
Andrew Colvet's brother, Curtis, is currently stationed in Romania as a lieutenant colonel.
We have Tyler Boyer, who holds a degree in Russian studies and is fluent in Russian, which is similar to Astrid Tumenez, by the way, the president of UVU.
She also holds a degree in Russian studies and is fluent in Russian.
And I should mention she's an orphaned child.
Might be relevant, might not be relevant, who knows?
Rob McCoy, I don't know if you knew this, but he adopted a 12-year-old girl named Natalia.
She now goes by Natasha from Russia around 2006.
Okay, so I don't know.
These are just facts.
I'm delivering the facts here.
Now, regarding trafficking sex abuse, N888 KG, which is now currently owned by Derek and Shalane Maxfield.
They run Sapria, which is a child abuse charity.
They're helping children that have been abused, a sex abuse charity.
And then I told you guys about Colonel Otto Busher, who was accused of running a brothel with Romanian children from 2011 to 2015 at a Romanian, a military base in Romania, I should say, not a Romanian military base, an American military base in Romania.
And yes, he worked with Romanian angels during that time period.
Civilian commander, sorry, stationed at Fort Huachuca, a civilian commander that was stationed at Fort Huachuca, David Frodsham, was charged with running a child sex abuse ring.
That is true.
TPUSA Faith works with Pastor Greg Laurie, as I told you.
They are currently embroiled in a trafficking scandal.
George Zinn was arrested, and then it was determined that he had pornographic images.
That's our decoy boy of children on his phone.
And as I told you, he told people at the hospital that he was treated at that he would be paid if he did this.
He didn't know where the money was coming from, but all he had to do was jump up and down and say it was me, it was me.
Andrew Piscadlo, you might remember that name because early on pictures were circulating of him and people thought that he could have been the shooter because he was wearing the suit and people and he actually, and people thought he maybe had a weapon in his bag.
It ended up being that he was photographing, that he was taking pictures.
He was a photographer, not hired by Turning Point USA.
But he has rang the alarm before on military Ukrainian sex trafficking that is happening in the United States.
If you go through his Instagram, he has said this is what's happening currently.
They're trafficking children from Ukraine and he did some investigation into that.
So that came up when I was looking into him early on.
Obviously, I've covered extensively Cavalry Chapel, Chapel Church, riddled with pastor abuse stories.
I mean, it's a thing.
Okay.
And then obviously, we know Rob McCoy was trying to rehabilitate somebody who actually went to prison.
He said he found the Lord and decided to put him into homes with children via Cavalry Chapel.
There's a lot of rehabilitating people who have an issue with abusing children, I would say, at the Cavalry Chapel church.
It's problematic.
And I'm putting Glenn Beck and Tim Ballard's Operation Underground here.
Actually, I knew, I learned about Operation Underground.
That was introduced to me by Marissa Strait over at Prager U.
She asked me to interview Tim Ballard before he had to step down from the charity, which was a child trafficking charity dedicated to rescuing children from being trafficked in war-torn areas.
Glenn Beck was the initial investment, as the story was told to me when I was at Prager U. When I interviewed him, obviously, we know Glenn Beck has interviewed Erica Kirk.
We know that Glenn Beck also, his children, were there at UVU when Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
He was one of the first people to speak out about that on the news on September 10th.
And Tim Ballard's name strangely came up when we were looking into Phil Lyman.
And we learned that he paid Tim Ballard a visit in the days following the assassination, which was just Tim Balard's name coming up, which is interesting to me because I was like, oh, he runs also a child trafficking chair.
It's a lot of that, just a lot of that happening.
And also, I should mention Derek and Shalane Maxfield, who run this abuse charity, in their profile pictures, they were wearing an Operation Underground shirt.
So people are very passionate, I would say, about trafficking and putting together organizations to stop trafficking in this story.
Now, in terms of our military connection, it is extensive.
Like I said, this is by no means a definitive list.
I put this together today.
Andrew Colvett's brother and cousin are captains in the military, Curtis Colvett and Robert Colvett.
Rob McCoy's father, Roy Edgar McCoy, ran psychological operations for naval intelligence to shape public perception.
His son, Danny McCoy, is currently in the military.
And yeah, he had a whole naval fleet named after him, actually.
So top dog, top dog.
We obviously know Erica Kirk has been open about the fact that her mother and her father do defense-related military work.
It's why she moved to Arizona in the first place, because they had contracts with the DOD.
And we know that her father has worked with Raytheon.
The Farmsworth family has extensive military connections.
I will add more about that later.
And we will cover that later because the Farnsworth family in general is important to the story.
Dr. Frank Turek was a naval flight officer for eight years.
His son, Frank Turek III, is a deputy officer, deputy division chief, pardon me, at the Joint Chief of Staff in D.C. His other son, Spencer, is an Air Force vet.
He was on the phone with, I think he said both of his sons, FaceTiming with both of his sons.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Maybe it's one of his sons he was FaceTiming with.
The Hades military plane, which we haven't discussed too much, but I promise you will get there, inexplicably flew this route around UVU on the day of the assassination, just before and just after, which is interesting because that plane in particular has a lot to do with drones.
Again, we'll get more into that in a future episode.
And then, of course, the doctors.
Dr. Lee Trotter did his residency on an Air Force base and he also has his pilot's license.
The Utah medical examiner, Dr. Deidre Amaro, is a major.
Butch Hibbs, we have Jack Hibbs, their father, Butch Sr., military background.
And I suspect Butch Hibbs also perhaps is involved in the military himself.
We are looking for something a bit more concrete on that.
Now, I wanted to present that to you because I want to focus on building that so you can see these themes recurring.
But today we're going to talk more about Liberty University because I received a very interesting set of tips about Liberty University.
Particularly yesterday, I was contacted by someone.
Well, actually, I should say I spoke to someone yesterday.
I was contacted by them many times via email, pleading for me to call.
She was pleading for me to call her.
It wasn't really clear to me as to why there seemed to be a panic.
She was seemingly triggered by a video regarding Trump pageantry.
Okay.
The video in question is not controversial and she has no connection to the person in the video, which was Erica Kirk simply discussing how she got involved with the Trump pageant world.
Hence why I was not exactly seeing the big picture.
She doesn't know Erica.
She had nothing to say about how Erica knew Trump pageants, but her speaking about it was triggering for her.
Anyways, after a lot of back-forth, I decided to just call her.
I had some time yesterday to see why Trump pageantry in general was so triggering to her.
And she began to tell me a story that was quite unbelievable at first until I did some research.
This woman, whose identity I am going to protect at this moment, was a young teenager in the 90s, and she had landed herself in a bit of trouble.
She wound up with a probation officer, and she also got pregnant.
And they essentially told her, Hey, you know, you're either going to get your life together, sort of this ultimatum, we could send you to Juvie, or you could go away and we'll give you an opportunity here.
There's this amazing new program that's being run out of Liberty University, which helps troubled teens, which you are a troubled teen.
She was 13 at this time.
So, obviously, they made the decision for her to take the option.
It's like when the judge says, Hey, you can go to rehab or you can go to prison.
Obviously, I'm going to go to rehab.
So, she chose to go down to Lynchburg, Virginia, while she was pregnant to live in a house with other troubled girls who were being helped through a program that was known as the God Parent Program.
It still is a thing today.
Effectively, they help these young women who are struggling with various other things, but particularly with her and the women that she was sharing rooms with their pregnancy journey.
And they offer to help place their children into adoptive Christian homes should they choose not to keep their children.
Sounds nice enough.
That seems like you know, the Christian spirit, pro-life, and don't have an abortion.
Instead, we can have a home for your child to be raised in.
But things got pretty weird after that.
And I want you to listen to what she told me in this conversation, which I recorded.
And yes, I have her permission to share this conversation.
I'm sorry if this sounds, you know, not too clear.
We tried to make it as clear as possible.
And yeah, let's just roll it.
It's going to be quite long, but it's very important.
Take a listen.
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When I got to the Liberty God Parent Home, which is what took me in in 90, like 94, they used to lock us in our room 24 hours a day.
We were locked in our room.
We weren't allowed visitors.
We weren't allowed people at our home.
I didn't have no visitors because I didn't have any family there, of course.
And I was shaking.
I didn't have no family there, so I didn't have nobody.
But like Jerry Fallow Sr. was the one actually taking the photos.
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Yeah, they, um, I remember him and his wife there, but another thing weird about it is I never thought about like what happened the night in the night, the morning I delivered my baby.
Everything was weird.
And I think about it now, it's all weird to me.
But then it wasn't because I was only 13, 14 years old.
Right.
I made mistakes.
I mean, I totally turned my life around.
I have four kids now, two grandbabies, but you know, I want to go back to.
Okay, so you had the baby, and what was weird about that night?
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Okay, the night before, they okay, like I said, they have house mothers, and I can't remember details, but I remember them doing, you know, putting the probe button, listening to heartbeat pretty much, and looking at, you know, doing ultrasound.
Okay, to this day, I've had, you know, four other kids playing ultrasound, so I know what they were doing was funny to me because everything was fine that night.
Back then, there was about like between 12 and 15 on one house, but you're talking anywhere from age 12 to like 21 years old, you know.
I didn't get that.
My mom's the youngest, but and some of them didn't speak English?
Yeah, there was a couple girls, you know, they didn't speak English, but we weren't allowed to.
That's another thing.
We weren't allowed to like talk to the other girls.
We were only allowed, like certain girls were on one certain side of the hallway.
Certain girls were on the other certain side of the hallway.
Back then, we had to either call, collect, or use quarters.
Okay.
On a payphone, you know, they didn't allow us to use the regular phones.
They treated us like slaves.
But the next morning, it's like they knew something was going to happen to my baby or something because the next morning, I also didn't have a heartbeat and I had to go in.
But the strange thing about it is their daughter, this is another thing I thought about.
Their daughter is a high doctor at the Liberty or at some university, some hospital in Lynchburg, Virginia.
Okay.
And back then, if I remember correctly, their daughter was like one of the house mothers.
Okay.
And I'm wondering their daughter was like my nurse or nurse lady and gave me something to miscarry because, see, the thing is, is they coerced us to give up the baby because they got money for their adoption.
It was some kind of adoption.
I didn't know nothing about it.
But my thing was that I kept telling them, no, I wanted to keep my baby because I had a three-year-old nephew and I had took care of him.
I thought I could mother.
It wasn't for me, okay?
I was like, I was too young.
Okay.
But still, I have questions because now I keep seeing stuff and I'm like, why are these all these videos coming up on my feeds for no reason?
I was asking my mom that, and truthfully, I have called down there to find myself to find dates out, and I can't even find myself actually in their system.
That's another thing that's weird.
That's very I've called down there this past few weeks just to find out information on myself.
I even called my own probation officer, which he called me back last night.
He was actually telling me information and he told me, you know, back then, I wasn't a bad kid.
I just skipped school because I stayed home and stuff.
So let me tell you what is really interesting about this particular conversation.
Well, Liberty University is involved.
And you hear she broke down crying several times throughout the conversation.
There was obviously real pain there.
And what's really interesting is that she told me thereafter that while she can pull all of her court records, Liberty University is sort of like, you know, it's all electronic now.
You're talking about the 90s.
We can't find you.
We can't find you.
You had a baby in a house when you were 13 years old and we can't find you.
By the way, where's the baby buried?
I asked that question to her.
And she said, what happened after she gave birth was they told her, they called her mom and they said that she's got to go.
I said, how do you know the baby was dead?
You're telling me they moved you into a room and they induced labor after you said, I don't want to give up my child.
They induced labor.
They told you a child, yourself, that there was no heartbeat mysteriously, right after you made the decision that you didn't want to give up your child for adoption.
You felt like you were being pressured.
Now there's no heartbeat.
They induce labor.
You never see your son.
That she said she had a son.
She never saw anything.
They tell your mom she's got to pick you up ASAP.
That's what she goes on to tell me because they didn't want the other young women to be traumatized learning that she had a miscarriage.
So in the middle of the night, her mom drives up and gets her, picks her up.
Funeral.
Is there a headstone?
What happens when there's a induced labor at Liberty University?
This is unbelievable.
Now, why she was triggered when she heard Erica speaking about Trump pageantry, to connect that dot for you, is because Erica had said, you know, you have to submit your pictures.
Well, she goes back home.
She's still a teenager.
And two years later, she gets an invite to join Trump Pageant World.
But she doesn't know how they got her picture.
She doesn't know how they got her picture.
She wasn't taking pictures.
She wasn't trying to be in Pageant World.
And so that's what triggered her.
I went, wait a second, how did they get my picture?
Why were they taking these weird pictures?
She never said that they were sexual, by the way.
I'm sure they probably said to her at the time at that house, like, so that we can submit your picture to the Christian adopted families, whatever it is.
But it sort of clicked to her that that's kind of odd that I got this invitation to join Trump Pageant World.
Now, for those of you who have followed our Epstein series, we spoke about this.
Xavier Poussard showed that this was one of his mechanisms.
Jeffrey Epstein, Israel's guy, would go find organizations where there were tons of young women that were coming through and he would pump money into them, like Victoria's Secret.
And maybe some trafficking happened, right?
By the way, the history of pageantry, for those of you that don't know, it's child sex trafficking.
It's the Kearneys.
It's P.T. Barnum and Bailey in America.
What was going on at carnivals, historically speaking, was very dark stuff.
Very dark stuff.
Anyways, in case you aren't believing the story, because we know what happens next, they do the Mitch Snow thing.
Oh, she's crazy.
She's making this up.
It's all an illusion.
Well, the good thing is that there's actually an entire podcast series that is currently investigating this godparent program at Liberty University.
And these women have done incredible work, so much work that it actually got picked up locally in Virginia by ABC News.
Take a listen.
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The Liberty Godparent Home, a place for young single pregnant women, is defending itself against allegations of coercion and manipulation.
A new podcast called Liberty Lost alleges some of the young women felt pressured to place their children for adoption.
The Liberty Godparent Home is tucked away on Liberty Mountain Drive.
The maternity home was founded by Jerry Falwell Sr. in the 80s as part of a pro-life ministry at Thomas Road Baptist Church.
Now it's the focal point of the podcast, Liberty Lost.
What inspired you to investigate this in the first place?
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For the last two years, I've been investigating the maternity home after connecting with several residents who went through the home as pregnant teenage girls, both in the 1990s and in 2008.
I really can't describe the sense of abandonment and fear and disassociation that you experience when your family abandons you all the while calling it something like good for you and like this is a plan.
No, I felt that I was put in really terrifying moments of being given an opportunity to explain to an adult that had a different opinion how I thought I could pull it off.
The Godparent Home declined my request for an interview, but sent a statement saying in part, quote, our staff and volunteers work tirelessly in this ministry and have built a reputation of being a trusted voice and ministry resource in the community.
They have treated every individual who has sought assistance with compassion and integrity.
Did you feel supported in any way by the people within the home?
I would imagine that I would respond to that and I'd say, yeah, tons of people had a positive experience.
And again, the woman that I spoke to, you can see she was there when it was Jerry Falwell Sr., who we're going to speak about in a little bit because I'm going to connect even more dots for you.
You know, what I want to say is we all felt, for some reason, spiritually sick watching Amfest, right?
Tim Dylan did such a good job of saying this feels like something else.
Like they just keep saying that this is about God and this is about the Lord and this is about almost like they were trying to turn Charlie into a messianic figure.
And yet we felt darkness there.
We felt darkness.
We felt like this was actually about money.
We felt like we were being deluded.
We felt like it was a Las Vegas convention.
And I have been speaking throughout the last year, even before Charlie Kirk got assassinated.
I dedicate a lot of time this podcast to speaking to you about this veneer of Christianity, Operation Mocking Pastor.
We termed it.
And we really saw them start to ratchet that up after Charlie Kirk's assassination.
These influencers.
Well, this is the Lord.
This is what the Lord would want.
Yeah, we're going to talk more about that.
And I'm going to tell you more about the founding of Liberty University right after a brief break.
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So back to Liberty University.
Now, I have been signaling to you guys, like I said, that there is something very wrong with these mega churches in America.
There's very wrong with almost what I would term Christian ink.
These Christian influencers, suddenly they look like they're glitching a bit, right?
Something happened in the last year and we're like, oh, I used to kind of like you, and now you seem to be glitching inside of this matrix.
You're telling us it's right here in the Bible.
You seem overly invested in certain narratives.
Suddenly, this is being to feel like, well, a psychological operation that's being orchestrated by Israel because you sort of missed it.
If your whole brand is Christianity, but you decided to stay mum on the atrocities that Israel is committing in Gaza, this probably isn't really about Christianity, is it?
The Bible's pretty clear.
Thou shalt not kill children, especially.
If I could offer an addendum, children, especially, innocent souls, and yet they're remarkably mum.
On the issue of Charlie Kirk, they had more ire for Candace Owens investigating it than they did for the FBI.
No interest.
Shut it down, right?
Shut it down.
How dare you say he's Catholic?
That's what's wrong with this.
You saying anything about Catholicism is wrong.
Glitch, glitch.
Oh, Josh Hammer's lying.
Let me tell you, he's a wonderful human being.
Glitch, glitch.
I'm sorry, lying.
Shouldn't you just be able to call a spade a spade?
No, they can't because they represent something else.
Now, I want to be clear: I have spoken at Liberty University multiple times.
And I promise you, I never thought once to look up their origin story.
I was just so excited that there was a Christian university in general, and they were remarkable to me when I spoke there.
And I wasn't looking, I guess, for anything deeper.
I didn't see how I was also being manipulated in various ways early on in my political career.
So, color me surprised to learn that Liberty University was once failing, and then it received a ton of funding.
Honestly, the story of how it came to be the university that it is today is quite interesting.
Someone emailed me and they wrote, I quote, Hi, Candace.
I'm currently reading the Israel Lobby by John Mearsheimer.
And in the book, it talks about how the Israeli government gave Jerry Falwell, Liberty University's founder, Jerry Falwell Sr., a $2 million jet in 1979, adjusted for inflation.
That's like $10 million.
And that was to gain support from evangelicals in America.
I figured it would be helpful for your deep dive of Israel buying evangelicals.
End quote.
So that's interesting.
That tip does seem like something I should explore.
Probably is helpful.
And it's true.
Jerry Falwell Sr., I should tell you, had a rather radical conversion to Christianity when Israel became a nation in 1948.
Now, prior to that, this is according to the Washington Post, he came from a family that definitely had some issues.
His daddy, a man named Carrie Hezekiah, was a drunk and he was a bootlegger.
Okay.
He was a bootlegger and he was a drunk and he got into a fight with his brother once.
This is literally his brother.
His name was Garland.
And he shot him dead.
And to be even clearer here, his dad wasn't just a bootlegger.
Carrie was not just a bootlegger.
He was also a smuggler and a trafficker.
Okay.
So he pretended like he was just a business owner that was running a string of gas stations, ostensibly, but in reality, he was using his fuel trucks to smuggle bootleg whiskey into America during the time of prohibition.
It's giving Trognio liquors, you know, as we started getting into season two of becoming Brigitte.
I'm like, wow, a lot of people were smuggling things into America.
Anyways, I keep telling you guys that the people that rule over us, the people that have these huge platforms, they are not smarter than us.
They're just more corrupt than us.
They won't do anything to maintain their power.
And they really are the heirs of gangsters.
Back to Carrie.
After he shot his brother dead, he became a rather nasty alcoholic.
His employee, one time, this is a true story as documented by Rolling Stone.
His employee stayed home sick one day.
So Falwell got mad.
He decided to catch the man's cat that he loved.
And he killed the cat.
Then he cooked the cat, and then he delivered the remains of the cat to the employee's house for lunch.
Yeah, that's why I went with the thumbnail title, Don't F With Cats, because now we have to find Charlie Kirk's murderer, for those of you who watched that series.
Now, according to Forbes, he also once threw a man into a bear cage after he had an argument with him at one of his restaurants.
So, yeah, he had a colorful background indeed.
Like I said, these people are gangsters.
But in 1948, the very year that Israel became a nation, Carrie Hezekiah died from cirrhosis of the liver.
And his son, Jerry Falwell Sr., had an immediate radical conversion to Christianity.
Bootlegging, trafficking, smuggling, be damned, because his business was now going to be the church ministering.
He became a televangelist and he established Lynchburg College in 1971, which would eventually change its name to Liberty University, Liberty University that we know today.
And yes, it is true, in 1979, Jerry Falwell Sr. was gifted a Learjet from the founder of the Likud Party, then Prime Minister of Israel, Menachem Bagan.
Now, that's pretty nice of Israel.
But I always am wondering, in exchange for what?
Like in exchange for what?
Because that kind of reminds me about how Bibi Netanyahu wanted to take Turning Point USA to the next level.
He offered to take Turning Point USA to the next level.
Charlie Kirk said no.
But apparently, nobody in the mainstream media is interested in answering the question as to why he wanted to take Turning Point to USA to the next level.
What does Israel have to do with young evangelicals, a young evangelical organization?
Also, how?
That's my other big question.
How exactly was he planning to get that money to Turning Point USA?
I'm assuming he wasn't going to write like a blank check from a Likud party.
Surely he was going to accomplish that through other people and their organizations, because Israel never gets their hands dirty if they can avoid it.
That's the lesson of yesterday, by the way.
You employ Christians to do your dirty work.
And I got another clue from a different email tip that I received regarding Liberty University.
It reads, Hi, Candace, I have some links that might be important for you in your investigation regarding connections between the Iran-Contra scandal and Liberty University.
Now, to remind you, the Iran-Contra scandal was a trafficking scandal that involved our government, the CIA.
Of course, the Mossad, Jeffrey Epstein, was involved in the Iran-Contra scandal.
If the Mossad is to be believed, that's how they first brought him in, running weapons through South America.
And the CIA and the Mossad got caught involving, they were trying to control what was happening in South America.
And yeah, they were arming people to take over countries.
That's kind of what our CIA does.
Anyways, the reason how this involves Liberty University is that during the Iran-Contra scandal, as the email goes on, a man named Sun Myung Moon, a North Korean evangelical cult leader, assisted the CIA in its so-called anti-communist efforts.
That's how they build what they were doing during the Iran-Contra scandal in Central America.
He used his logistics network through the churches to aid the Contras through his unification church.
He connected and their connected organizations like CAUSA.
And he also ran PR for the Reagan administration regarding U.S.'s involvement in Central America through his newspaper, The Washington Times.
Okay, so what's important is that this son Myung Moon later would bail Liberty University out.
The person in the email said roughly the amount was $20 to $40 million in the mid-1990s.
Now, I find it extremely interesting.
I mean, sorry, this person wrote to me, I find it extremely interesting that the same evangelical cult leader who worked with federal agencies and profited from the Iran-Contra scandal also financially rescued Liberty University.
And how Liberty University might be connected to the drug-smuggling military base.
He's referring to Fort Huachuca.
That was the reason he sent the email discussing Fort Huachuca.
Interesting indeed, I would say, because you've got a story about the feds smuggling Christianity, Israel, South Korea.
Did all that actually happen?
Yeah, that it did actually happen.
And the Washington Post did a fantastic article breaking down what became known as the Moon cult, an article that they published in 1997 as that cult was beginning to fade, or I guess their power was beginning to fade here in America.
And it's stunning because if you close your eyes and imagine, you start to see Turning Point USA and Turning Point USA faith, everything that I've been describing.
I kept saying from the very beginning, what went rot in that Turning Point USA was this faith push.
I've been telling you, and I'm going to show you that these Egyptian planes I've showed you in part were tracking Turning Point USA faith, these pastors.
Okay, what's going on with these quote-unquote Egyptian planes?
It happened to look like they're going into Gaza, actually.
So I'm going to read you parts of this article regarding the Reverend Sun Moon, his unification church.
He declared himself just, you know, a messiah.
So when we start to see how it feels like they were trying to establish Charlie as a messianic figure, and it's all become somehow about money, they don't actually care about Charlie.
It's like, how much money can we make?
We're going to put the tent up.
We're going to make it.
People just, here's the bloody mic.
We're putting it in a thing.
It feels like I said a seance.
Why don't you imagine that?
As I tell you about what Sun Moon's unification church accomplished in America, rather.
And yes, attached to the Iran-Contra affair and Israel and pumping money into Liberty University.
Okay, now it tells us that their unification church was faltering as a religion in the United States, but it still remains a robust, diverse business.
Again, this is 1997, especially in the Washington area, where the movement controls more than 300 million in commercial, political, and cultural enterprises.
It tells us that the organizations owned or sponsored by Moon and his inner circle of Korean and American followers hold properties stretching from Prince George to Fairfax County, according to corporate property and court records.
This vast and bewildering multinational could be called Moon Inc.
It is a sprawling collection of churches, nonprofit foundations, and for-profit holding companies.
In the Washington area, the Unification Church's investment is an important cog in a global machine that Moon uses to boost his credibility, spread his spiritual doctrine, and win political influence, according to current and former church members.
As the unification movement evolved from selling roses on street corners to acquiring control of a nationwide cable channel, the nation's capital became the epicenter of Moon's U.S. holdings.
Those include the Washington Times, Washington Times newspaper, a video production firm, a stately old church, once the pride of the Mormons along 16th Street, Northwest, Washington area property owned by the church, its affiliated companies or senior church officials, is worth more than $200 million, according to property and corporate records.
A lot of property, I was telling you, Turning Point's getting into real estate.
It's very interesting.
They're getting into real estate, according to a tip that I have, because they're going to teach young conservatives how to buy houses, I'm sure.
Tyler Boyer leading the charge.
Washington will be the focus of the worldwide unification movement this week as Moon-sponsored organizations are going to hold a series of academic conferences and the World Sports and Culture Festival, culminating Saturday with a mass wedding at RFK Stadium.
The South Korean self-declared Messiah has grown increasingly vehement within the unification movement.
Moon's spiritual and business ventures are viewed as a part of a unified whole.
Quote, ideas without the money to back them up are just dreams, end quote, said Richard Rubinstein, the president of the movement-controlled University of Bridgeport.
The corporate section is understood to be the engine that funds the mission of the church.
I am telling you, this is like almost verbatim if you were to read statements about Turning Point USA and their spin-offs.
We need the money to do the work.
This is what we're going to, this is going to be the 501c3, the 501c4, and turning point action.
This is where it's all going to come together.
It goes on to tell us that since the 1970s, Moon has gained his highest profile in this country, not with his church, but with The Times, the 100,000 circulation daily that competes with the Washington Post.
But the paper has become an established voice of conservative America.
Beyond the Times, Moon-affiliated entities are linked by a complex web of interlocking directorships and nurtured by a seemingly endless flow of cash from the Far East.
That has enabled them to buy new businesses and even helped to bail out Reverend Jerry Falwell's foundering Liberty University.
Again, since 1997, executives of unification-related entities have acknowledged that money from Japan and Korea are fueling their U.S. operations.
But the magnitude and the mechanism of those payments, as well as their exact sources, have eluded investigators on three continents over the past three decades.
Let me slow that down for you.
So you're telling me we have a faith-based organization with a political arm that is stretched into evangelical churches that's working with Israel and helping the CIA traffic arms at one point through churches in the presence of their church.
And now you're telling me that when they started looking into where this money was coming from, it's actually eluding them how the money is coming from Japan and Korea.
And wasn't that Charlie's last trip?
It was Arli.
He went to Korea.
We're going to get to that.
And then after he went to Korea, I met with a pastor.
That pastor got arrested.
Again, we're going to get to that.
And then after he went to Korea, he went to Japan.
I'm just saying the past is feeling like it's a bit prologue.
Why was Charlie going to a buildup?
What does Charlie Kirk have to do with Korea?
Turning point faith pushing you into Korea.
A lot going on in South Korea, by the way.
Like LOL, I saw this article about how they suddenly established a Holocaust museum.
I was like, there goes the neighborhood.
Do we have that article?
Yeah.
South Korean Christian Zionists opened the country's first Holocaust museum.
I should add that to my timeline because there goes the neighborhood.
Anyways, jumping back into this article before I show you what happened when Charlie went to Korea and a pastor then got arrested.
It tells us that Moon Inc., sorry, let me flip this wrong side.
Moon's business, Moon's businesses exist for several purposes.
Church leaders and critics agree to employ members to gain influence in industries that Moon considers crucial and to support Moon's spiritual and political agenda.
Sometimes that support is direct, as when Moon's nonprofit organizations contribute to conservative political and social causes with financial donations, staff, and publicity.
And sometimes it's indirect, as when Moon-sponsored groups stage academic, religious, and cultural conferences, inviting professors, clergy, media executives, and other opinion shapers to meetings, all expenses paid.
Oh, that reminds me of Turning Point.
USA, Faith, I told you they were embarking on this pastor summit.
They were going to bring all these Christian Zionist influencers, training.
They had a pastor summit led by Rob McCoy, as I showed you that, Sean Foyt.
They were going to lead this up, pumping in money.
This is what was growing, Turning Point Faith, which was spun out of Liberty University.
So this feels especially relevant.
It goes on to say that they'll have a conference on the essence of religious founders.
This is a guy who was an ex-Catholic priest.
His name was Borderland.
He says, quote, they'll have a conference on the essence of religious founders like Buddha, Jesus.
And then Moon gets a room full of academics to sit there.
He gets his picture taken with them.
He gets credibility.
They get to have their conference.
It's all very messy, end quote.
Borderland, like many people who have received some of Moon's generous bounty, has never been able to figure out the blizzard of organizations that make up Moon Inc.
He says, quote, my money is never from the church itself.
It's always the international something or another.
That's interesting because when we started looking into Operation Mocking Pastored, we had that lead that it was coming from one of these fellowship, international fellowships or whatever, ICJF.
I don't remember what it was.
Point is like there's all these international fellowship of Christians and Jews, and they're pumping money with an explicit purpose.
In fact, you'll be very proud to know that when I worked for the Daily Wire, they used to bring me companies like AdReads, and they brought me the International Fellowship of Christian and Jews to read ads for.
And so I said to my producer at the time, I said, well, what is this, actually?
Let's pull it up.
Okay, because I was allowed to decline an ad read if I had a moral, if I felt like I was morally averse to it.
And so I looked, pulled up the website, and it was basically, here's what you Christians can do for Jews.
And I said, this doesn't feel like a fellowship.
So no, I'm a Christian.
I'm going to get to work.
We have tons of issues.
They're not telling us what they're going to do in the Congo or how they're going to help with what's going on all around the world, Armenia.
So why would I just like read ads for it?
There's something going on with that organization, by the way.
They've got their hands in a lot.
Anyways, that's how they were doing this.
They were paying this guy, but it wasn't actually coming from Moon's Church.
It was coming from international something or another.
That's how you hide the money.
It goes on to read on one corridor: the International Coalition for Religious Freedom, the group that Borderland said signs his checks these days, shares a suite with the Martial Arts Federation for World Peace and a company called Washington Times Aviation.
The only person in the suite on a recent visit was a Korean man who spoke little English, saying, I am Martial Arts Federation.
I work for Father.
Okay.
Then tells us that Moon's Washington enterprises range from a ballet academy to an architectural molding company to magazines.
They said, quote, the idea was that we'd be like Disney, controlling all kinds of media, working on behalf of God.
Always, always.
Paquette, whose job gave him access to financial information about several church-related businesses, said he believed that virtually none of the unification's U.S. operations is profitable.
You have all these businesses and none of them are profitable.
Where's the money coming from?
How's that work, actually?
And isn't it starting to sound like the seven mountain mandate, these pastors, we got to have an interest in culturally here and there.
We've got to be everywhere.
The turning point's going to help us get there.
It's very interesting.
Where is the money coming from and where is it going?
Was one of Charlie Kirk's last questions before he was assassinated.
He established Doge to determine that answer.
They decided to investigate Moon organization in 1978.
In 1978, a congressional investigation into the Moon organization concluded that, quote, the Unification Church and numerous other religious and secular organizations headed by Sun Moon constitute essentially one international organization that moved money freely among its entities.
SEC filings show that the cash for nostalgia, that's one of their companies, comes through a chain of companies that lead to the Unification Church International.
It's a vertically integrated operation that is common in Moon's empire.
He goes on to tell us, this is my favorite quotation, because it's just so mega church vibes.
Like, you know, you find $300,000 behind a sink or a toilet.
Tells us, quote, Rev Moon sent bags of cash, big fat bags, stacks and stacks of hundreds from Korea and Japan to Manhattan Center.
The church's recording studio in New York City, Paquette said, whenever we asked where that money was coming from, the answer was that it came from the father.
The wealth of Unification's worldwide economic empire remains a closely guarded secret.
Lawrence Ziliox, a private investigator who has studied the church for more than a decade, has concluded from church documents that the Unification Church International, the main holding company for Moon's U.S. businesses, exceeded $500 million in the mid-1980s.
Man, who took Moon Inc. to the next level?
But the church's wealth has always been centered in Asia.
A detailed analysis by the Far Eastern Economic Review in 1990 valued the church's land holdings in South Korea alone at more than $1 billion.
In recent years, though, several of the Korean companies have lost money, causing business experts there to wonder, like their counterparts in America, where the money comes from.
Charlie Kirk, where is the money coming from and where is it going to?
Charlie Kirk is in Korea, he's in Japan, and he's being told that he's there for reasons that have to do with the Christian faith being suppressed.
And I don't think that's why they had him there, to be honest with you.
I don't think that's why they pushed for Charlie to go to Korea and to Tokyo.
The long-standing explanation as to where the money comes from, where the money was going to, it is Japan, not Korea, that provides the bulk of the church's wealth, as much as 70%, church observers estimate.
They can't get to the bottom of that.
We don't know.
We don't know the answer to that.
Yet, despite years of such legal and financial troubles, the unification movement continues to pump hundreds of millions of dollars into existing businesses and new ventures all around the world.
It's just a bottomless pit of money.
Nobody knows where it's coming from.
According to business analysts and academics who study the church, Moon's most ambitious foray into the political process in recent years was the American Freedom Coalition, a conservative group that built popular support for Colonel Oliver L. North during the Iran-Contra probe.
In addition to about $5 million, unificationists provided the personnel that gave the coalition its grassroots strength.
Former church members said, Ah, yes, of course, you got to build, got to be able to help the colonels, got to have a military angle here.
And so that has been their most ambitious building something that actually helped the Iran-Contra people that were implicated.
Tells us also in 1995, the Women's Federation made another donation.
It's one of another arm of the church, a donation that illustrates how Moon supports his fellow conservatives.
It gave $3.5 million grants to the Christian Heritage Foundation, which later brought a portion of Liberty University's debt, rescuing Reverend Jerry Falwell's Lynchburg, Virginia Religious School from the brink of bankruptcy.
The Post has learned of more recent and direct financial support from Moon to Falwell.
Last year, New World Communications, which is a parent company of the money-losing Washington Times, lent $400,000 into Liberty at a 6% interest, according to the promissory note.
So the point of all of this is that to get money, it's a web.
It's a financial web that took one investigator 10 years to still not figure out how all this money is happening.
And that's what it feels like.
Turning point USA has become a very complex financial web where money is coming in and money is going out and every dollar is being spent and money is going back to certain people and there are kickbacks and it feels like very sophisticated money laundering.
When I read what happened with Moon Inc. and I compare it to what seems to be happening at Turning Point USA, it feels like the company grew bigger than Charlie Kirk and then they were ready to go to the next level.
Like maybe they were represented with an opportunity to become Moon Inc.
And maybe Charlie said no.
Maybe.
Anyways, back to Korea.
Yeah, Charlie's last trip.
He went to go meet with a pastor and Charlie, the way it was pitched to Charlie was that they were suffering, Christians are suffering in Korea because they want to get engaged into politics and like, you know, Christians want to vote what Christians are concerned about.
But again, I don't think that's why the McCoy's were pushing for Charlie to go to Korea because, you know, they just got a Holocaust museum.
And I don't think much Holocaust stuff happened in Korea.
Feels like maybe Korea is getting infiltrated, like America got infiltrated.
I mean, you can guess how many, how extensive the infiltration is by guessing how extensive the Holocaust education is, is what I would say.
That's kind of the lesson that I'm looking back and I'm going, it's kind of weird we didn't learn about this at school.
We had to learn about that.
Yeah.
You have to establish yourself as the ultimate victims before you do the ultimate oppressing vibes.
I don't know.
Anyways, I'll let you read about, or I'd rather see, this is the headline from the Korean Herald: how a pro-yun pastor was arrested for breaking election law.
He was arrested on September 9th.
Now, to remind you, Charlie was there on the 4th and the 5th for the Build Up Korea Conference.
So days later, he got arrested.
And the rhetoric that he was using is interesting.
It's very interesting.
Take a look at this news clip.
And sorry, Skylar.
unidentified
Turning overseas, we've been following the case of South Korean pastor Yoon Bo-son.
His imprisonment has raised concerns about religious freedom in South Korea.
The case recently gained more attention when his son Chance spoke in Arizona at Turning Point USA's Am Fest.
Asia correspondent Lucille Tulusin spoke with him following that appearance.
Where he spoke about his father's case.
Pastor Hyun Bo Son remains jailed in South Korea on election law charges and has drawn attention from the Korean administration for his stance on biblical truths.
So firstly, I would like to thank CBN News for covering my father's news when it was mostly needed.
And that's when I believe a lot of Christians in the States, especially, starting to pick up my father's story.
I think this is a great opportunity for Americans themselves to be able to realize what's at stake and what we are to do as brothers and sisters in Christ.
unidentified
As a show of support, the organization Advocates for Faith and Freedom has launched a petition for a fair legal process in Pastor Son's case.
Support from Americans is also growing.
That includes the late Charlie Kirk, who met Pastor Son in Seoul at the conference.
My father was able to share what's happening in Korea recently, especially to the Christian leaders, including himself, and also the possibility that my father could get arrested.
And in fact, my father got arrested two days after he met Charlie.
Charlie made sure that he will use his platform and his voice to let the whole world and America know that this is happening in South Korea.
And this was important for him because it was an example.
What would happen if we don't speak for biblical truth?
Well, he was accused of violating the Public Official Election Act and the Local Education Autonomy Act prior to attending a court hearing on Monday on the warrant for his arrest.
The conservative pastor participated in a protest that was held by Christian groups in which he said that the state is, quote, the same as Hitler and the Nazis, end quote.
And his arrest would be a confirmation of his claim, according to this article.
He shouted the words that Lee Jam Young has to die for Korea to live.
Fighting Nazis, guys.
Everybody, everywhere is fighting Nazis at all times.
It's just the only thing that's ever happened in the history of the world is these Nazis.
And obviously, if you don't allow this museum to come in and allow Christians to have a leg here, Christians, well, then obviously the Holocaust is going to happen again.
I think it's pretty sound.
This all feels right to me.
If I had to today give you my best guess as to why Charlie Kirk was assassinated, it's because an offer came to him to become the next moon, to turn Turning Point, which is already a $100 million organization, into a multi-billion dollar organization, like in real estate and purchasing businesses and doing all sorts of things, working with the military and the top politicians in the world.
And you just turn the other way.
Don't ask questions about where the money's coming from or how you're getting the money.
Just keep things afloat and keep poisoning the minds of the youth.
And keep saying that you're doing all this in the name of the Lord.
Because, you know, why not?
If Moon could traffic, help the CIA traffic in the name of the Lord, why couldn't Charlie Kirk's organization do that?
The hell was Charlie Kirk doing in Korea?
Okay, this is my best guess.
I think this is what Charlie Kirk said no to.
I think this is what Charlie Kirk turned down.
And I would imagine that if you're as lieutenants and you're thinking, this is a lot of money, a big payday, you might betray them.
You might betray him for that.
So that's all I have for you today.
Very long episode, but a very important episode to see how all of this comes together.
We're going to take a break before I read some of your questions.
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I hope it's obvious to you now that they infiltrated the Christian faith.
It's very apparent to me.
They infiltrated Christian organizations and we are, we've been under the spell of a psychological operation.
That is what happened here.
These people are not pastors.
These people are soldiers.
These people are not influencers.
These people are soldiers.
And the war is on us.
The war is for your mind.
And you can recognize this very simply, right?
You cannot be a Christian and ignore what's happening in Gaza.
You can't just pretend that that's okay.
You cannot be a Christian and not pursue truth or try to demonize those who pursue it.
I think that's self-evident, right?
And yeah, I hope that this episode has woken a lot of people up.
I hope people have been awakened to how severely all of us have been manipulated, myself included.
I will never unsee this.
And it is a cancer.
It really is a cancer.
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I'll read our top comment from yesterday's episode.
Somebody wrote, this is really funny.
Ben Shapiro is the type of guy that wakes you up to tell you that he's going to sleep.
It's absolutely hilarious.
Yeah, they're doing more releasing content on my old Instagram channel.
It is bonkers.
It really is, but they are also just not relevant anymore.
Vera Black Designs writes, hey, Candace, so Dan Flood's hand signals and the guy in brown in the front row that pulled his sleeves at the exact time that Charlie's life was taken.
Do you think there was something there or is it a coincidence?
I don't believe it was a coincidence.
Much, you're talking referring to Rick Cutler.
Yes, he has a very complicated history.
We haven't even gone into him, his history of the DOD, his family's history.
Listen, at the end of the day, I feel strongly that an operation to assassinate Charlie Kirk took place on that day and people are implicated.
That's the how we're still working on.
I think we've discovered the why.
It makes the whole story make sense, what was going on.
Charlie, the Doge, the offer from Bibi Night and Yahoo, the weird possession that overtook Christian Zionists to tell you that investigating this would be completely wrong.
I feel like Moon Inc. passed his prologue on that one.
Jennifer K8033 writes, Candace, have you seen or watched the work that John Bray has done regarding his theory on Charlie?
It is pretty compelling.
I pray for you and your family.
Stay safe and thank you for apologizing to the midget horse.
I am sorry to the midget horse again.
Out of control.
I was out of control.
But Ben is still fake and gay.
Yes, I have seen John Bray and the work that he's doing.
I find it to be very compelling as well.
And I have been communicating with him behind the scenes.
There's so much happening and there are so many rabbit holes to go under.
And again, that's under the category of the how.
Until I feel totally certain about how it was accomplished, I don't want to produce a theory because I'm under so much scrutiny.
If I say one thing and I get one thing wrong, then they suddenly pretend, oh my God, so radical, everything's been debunked.
The why I feel certain about.
I suggested that it was trafficking when I started looking at the route of the Egyptian plains and how they were tracking Turning Point USA faith and pastors for years.
And this sort of infiltration and overtaking of Turning Point USA that this faith, faith just came on very suddenly.
Like that's not what we were doing.
Charlie and I were going around talking about free markets and capitalism.
I blinked and suddenly it was everything was about the Lord and everybody is talking about the Lord.
But spiritually, you're like, this doesn't feel like this is about truth or honesty or Jesus Christ at all, actually.
It actually feels like you're being controlled by people who hate Jesus Christ, actually.
It's just a vibe that I get.
This person writes, look into Paul E. Valla Valley.
I did already, retired Army intel officer.
He co-wrote the book Mind War with Michael Aquino, Aquino, who was an Army Intel psychological operations officer and an avowed Satanist.
Because Paul Valley is also on the advisory board of Turning Point USA.
Well, it doesn't matter as long as you got a big enough check, as we've learned.
Who cares if he worships Satan?
Okay.
They're doing the kind of Christianity that can be bought, clearly.
And yes, that is true, by the way, because I have looked into that.
B. James, actually, I should add that, Skyler, just make a note to military connections here, because I do believe that he has some connection to Fort Watchuka as well as we dive back into that.
B. James writes, hi, Candace.
My girlfriend and I listen to you every episode while we are at work.
And then we talk about it when we get home.
It would mean the world to her if you could just say a quick hello to Christian.
Hi, Christian.
I hope he didn't misspell your name.
Is it Christina?
Because it could have been Christina and he could have just misfired there.
Whether you are Christian or you are Christina or you are a Christian Christina, I would like to say hello to you and thank you guys for watching the episode every day.
I really appreciate that.
All of you, I appreciate you all so much.
I loved yesterday seeing Maggie's Instagram blow up.
That was awesome.
She deserved that.
I love that for her making the difficult decision at the time, but making the right decision.
You should always be rewarded for that.
Free hour speech rights, Turning Point USA.
Nothing to see here.
Yeah.
Never anything to see, but pyrotechnics.
Living for His Glory Daily writes, this is why you have to look at Ferris and Dan Wilkes.
Explains another reason for Ben Shapiro's push against you and the push to get into Turning Point.
I'm just a mom who is not blind to the lies anymore sending my research tonight.
That's funny you say that because I had a dream.
It was so clear.
I promise you, you can actually fact check this with Village Crazy Lady, my girl Mel over on X, because I woke my husband up.
It was after Ben first attacked me.
I was like, that's weird.
I don't know what his investment is in this.
And I had another vivid dream.
The dream was so vivid.
It was like, if you've ever seen Harry Potter and like when they have like the chessboard scene and they're having a wizard war, but they're using, they're playing a game of chess.
It was basically a game of chess and Ben was one of the pieces.
And what I saw in this dream or how I felt, because there's no words in this, is that he was being sent out.
And I woke up at literally open house enough at 4 a.m. the morning and I said, I just had a dream that we have to look into the Wilkes brothers.
So weird that Ben, the reason he's sending out, that he's being sent out is because the Wilkes brothers are freaking out about something.
Swear to you.
Mel, Village Crazy Lady can show you the text because I then woke up and I messaged, I woke up and I got started and Mel messaged me and she said something about the seven mountain mandate and then she mentioned the Wilkes brothers and I was like, that is so crazy that you are messaging me this because I had a dream at 4 a.m.
They were not on my mind at all.
I don't actually really know anything about them.
It's not like they've ever been like a part of the Daily Wire operations or anything, but they do fund PragerU.
They do fund turning, I don't, sorry, I said turning point, you say they do fund PragerU and they do fund the Daily Wire and they are not, you know, evangelical Christians.
They fund the mega churches.
They started Rob McCoy's church, actually.
They funded it.
So that was interesting, which is what she was telling me.
I looked into it and all that's true.
Anyways, I know I'm about to talk about my dreams before everyone starts freaking out, but I'm going to still talk about my dreams, especially when they're that vivid.
And I have never dreamed more vividly and more precisely than since Charlie Kirk has been assassinated.
It's unbelievable.
Like it was disturbing me in the weeks after his death, how vivid the dreams were, how I was being woken up from my sleep.
I imagine this is exactly what Charlie was going through in 2018 when he was having visions that he was going to die.
That's kind of what's happening to me now about different things that have happened in this investigation or, you know, things that were happening with Charlie.
Anyways, for whatever that's worth.
And just reminding you guys before we sign off that we have a two-hour book club tomorrow.
We will not have an episode, but we will have a two-hour book club because we're going back to not doing Friday episodes unless we do an occasional thing that we toss you.
And that's to make up for the book club that we missed at the end of last year.
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