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MATRIX REVELATIONS: Erika Kirk Speaks. Zionists Lie About Charlie. | Candace Ep 257

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candace owens ▲ ● ▼		All right, you guys, happy Monday.
		MAGA civil war.
		At least that's what they are trying to brand it as.
		They say that's what's going on.
		But really, we all know it's more like Never Trumpers have now infiltrated the MAGA movement and they're trying to dictate the terms like we didn't notice.
		Randomly, Ben Shapiro apparently woke up this morning and chose violence.
		He put me in his anti-Tucker montage monologue.
		We'll see what he had to say in a little bit.
		And it just so happens to be exactly what every Zionist has had to say in the last 24 to 48 hours, almost as though it's scripted.
		In other news, Erica Kirk sat down with Jesse Waters.
		Now the full interview has not yet aired, but it's already going viral.
		Just a preview clip of it, and we're going to discuss it.
		And lastly, Cash Battell is now officially the most embarrassing human being in the United States.
		Welcome back to Candace.
		So obviously a major theme of this podcast is that everything truly is fake and gay.
		And people that listen to this podcast have already accepted that.
		The question really is just now, how fake are we talking?
		What shade of gayness are we talking?
		And I think we should start with the Lindsey Graham shade, which he threw at American voters.
		So what happened was he was on stage at the Republican Jewish Coalition.
		Okay, he and many others, by the way, many other treasonous congressmen, basically directed their fire and their anger toward Americans, letting us know, basically, not even basically, literally telling us, that if you do not support Israel, a foreign nation, then you're not even allowed to be a Republican anymore.
		Take a listen to Lindsey Graham in his own words.
unidentified		I want the world to know anti-Semitism, anti-Israel rhetoric, anti-Israel thought is not the road to being elected as a Republican.
unidentified		Feel or lose.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		You can't even have an anti-Israel thought.
		So if you're thinking, like, I don't know, killing tens of thousands of children is not good.
		Well, guess what?
		It ain't the road to the Republican Party.
		Really great messaging, Senator.
		And he obviously was not the only one because we know how these things go.
		He was joined on stage by many others, including the very genocidal Randy Fine.
		Randy Fine, just to be clear, he has been so disgusting in his rhetoric towards Palestinians, saying essentially that they're just not even truly humans, that even AIPAC had to drop him.
		That's saying a lot.
		If AIPAC was like, you went a little too far for even us, irrespective of this, Randy decided that he, I guess, is the arbiter of the new cool kids club.
		Like, you know, we should all want to sit with them, support Israel, or you can't sit with us.
		Can't sit with me, Randy Fine, and Lindsey Graham.
		And to show us just how hip and motivated and relevant they are, they sent some poor interns.
		It looks like they sent some poor interns down to FedEx or King Coes or UPS to print out these totally organic red signs.
		And the signs read.
		I don't know how he's going to get over this.
		So, Tucker, if you need to take a couple of days off, we get it.
		But the signs said, Tucker Carlson is not MAGA.
		There's something about it that's so dorky, sick burn.
		Tucker Carlson is not MAGA.
		And it sounds so inauthentic that you know it didn't come from anybody that was originally MAGA.
		This is like when a homeboy, who was the guy at Jesse, Jesse Smullet went out and he was like, They said to me, This is MAGA country.
		And we were like, Nobody in MAGA says this is MAGA country.
		No one in MAGA would say, Tucker Carlson is not MAGA.
		It's just a strange, it's very strange thing to say.
		It's very dorky.
		And they said it, they did it.
		And beyond that, besides printing out these little red posters, they gave those posters to some young men.
		I'm sure they're very nice young men.
		And they instructed them to wave the posters on stage while Randy Fine, of all people, spoke.
		Like he was the spice girls going back on stage.
		Tucker Carlson is not MAGA.
		You go, Randy Fine.
		And Randy Fine was getting them all fired up.
		And he said the usual thing: Tucker Carlson is basically akin to, you're going to be shocked.
		You guessed it, Adolf Hitler.
		So original.
		Take it away, Randy Fine.
randy fine ▲ ● ▼		But make no mistake.
randy fine ▲ ● ▼		Today, Tucker Carlson is the most dangerous anti-Semite in America.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, dangerous.
randy fine ▲ ● ▼		He has chosen.
		He has chosen to take on the mantle of leader of a modern-day Hitler youth to broadcast and feature those who celebrate the Nazis, those who call for the extermination of Israel, to defend Hamas, to even criticize President Trump for stopping Iran's nuclear ambitions.
		Friends, make no mistake.
		Tucker is not MAGA.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		It is so over for Tucker Carlson.
		I mean, he just, he must be shaking.
		I'm literally shaking right now, shaking, just shaking listening to it.
		It's just over.
		They have declared war on Tucker Carlson, which they happen to do every week, obviously.
		And they all say the same thing, which shows how inorganic it is.
		It's like Operation Mocking Pastor.
		And it was very clear that they were instructed to go after Tucker.
		More than anyone else, we know that Zionists cannot stand Tucker Carlson.
		And the real reason that they hate him is because he's very well liked now by both sides.
		And he also happens to not be controlled.
		You can always tell who they control because they don't condemn them even when they, like Randy Fine, just come right out with genocidal language against the Palestinians, referring to them as subhuman, laughing when he sees a dead body of a Palestinian.
		They don't care.
		They support it.
		They cover it up.
		But Tucker Carlson, oh no, he's having conversations with people that they don't like.
		It's that simple as to why they go after him.
		That's also why they fired him from Fox, because he was speaking out against the Ukrainian war and that was not allowed.
		They thought that firing him would effectively ruin him and he wouldn't be able to secure another big contract within the apparatus that they very much control.
		And it turns out Tucker Carlson actually got even bigger and he became even more well-liked.
		And they want justice for that.
		And the way that they are going about it right now, though, is especially sickening.
		They're now trying to roll Charlie Kirk's legacy into this.
		We all know, as I proved, that these same individuals were squeezing Charlie Kirk leading up to the end of his life.
		They wanted, again, Tucker Carlson to be gone, no longer allowed on the Turning Point USA stage because Tucker is the natural heir to the populist movement and they want him to be canceled.
		Only people that they control are allowed to be in positions of power.
		So recently, Tucker interviewed Nick Fuentes.
		The reason he did that, I've heard, is because it happens to be a free country and it's his platform and he can speak to whoever the hell he wants in the world.
		But of course, with Zionists, the very same ones who were causing Charlie Kirk all of that grief in the final days and hours leading up to his assassination, the very same ones that Charlie thought were going to kill him, they've now decided to besmirch Charlie's name by asserting that Tucker interviewing Nick Fuentes is a betrayal to Charlie.
		He's no longer Charlie's friend.
		They've decided posthumously that Tucker Carlson was a bad friend to Charlie Kirk.
		And do you know who can actually debunk that pretty easily?
		Yours truly.
		I got you guys.
		Okay.
		And it's just a little bit of common sense.
		Before Charlie died, really kind of just before he died in July, I interviewed Nick Fuentez.
		And Charlie and I discussed the interview.
		And never once did he tell me not to speak to Nick Fuentes.
		Never once did he consider it an act of betrayal.
		To the contrary, I had a very long discussion with him.
		I also had a long discussion with Andrew Colvett separately, telling them both that Charlie should host Nick Fuentes on his show and debate him.
		I tried to make that happen.
		You guys will recall this.
		Andrew Kovac can confirm it.
		Everything that I am saying is true.
		Oh, it's such an act of betrayal to speak to Nick Fuentez.
		Never at any point did Charlie say don't do that because that's ridiculous.
		It's not who he was.
		But the truth, obviously, is never what Zionists are concerned with.
		They want Charlie's legacy by any means necessary.
		They want people to believe that his legacy belongs to Israel somehow.
		And the harder that they work to lie about his legacy, the more the world wakes up to the truth about it.
		They are waking up to the truth about how Charlie really felt.
		It's just becoming too obvious.
		Anyway, let's get to Ben Shapiro, okay?
		Because on his show today, he took a very, dare I say, scripted stab at Tucker Carlson.
		Same talking points.
		Tucker Carlson has betrayed Charlie Kirk by hosting Nick Fuentez.
		And for absolutely no reason at all, I caught a stray bullet, which tends to happen.
		For whatever reason, they get mad at Tucker Carlson.
		They attack me.
		They get mad at me.
		They kind of punch Megan Kelly now.
	I don't know what Megan Kelly has done wrong, but she's done wrong, is what they say.
	And he, I'll just like listen to what he has to say.
	This is Ben Shapiro straight from a teleprompter.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		Tucker Carlson, you see, is a coward.
		And here is where his relationship with Nick Fuentes begins, with Nick Fuentes correctly pointing out that Tucker Carlson is a coward.
		You see, Tucker Carlson a few weeks back had on Candace Owens to treat her to his usual ideological laundering services.
		That's after years of Candace Owens saying things like this.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		And it is the case that dinosaur bones, for whatever reason, are always just found by the paleontologists.
		Like it's not like you and me walking outside.
		I'm like, hey, a dinosaur bone.
		And or by somebody who's related to a paleontologist.
		It's very strange.
		And then, but it was just convenient for Israel that JFK got shot.
		It was just convenient, you guys.
		Totally convenient.
		It was convenient for Israel, by the way, when the towers went down.
		I just want to be clear.
		Anything happens to me, blame the Zionists.
		Like 1000%, blame the Zionists.
		Like, let that be my parting word.
		I'm waking people up to the fact that pedophiles are in power.
		They're literally in power.
		And that is intentional because then they can be controlled while they are in power.
		And they are also exhibiting signs of a psychopath pathology that lets them know that they will do harm to the masses and feel nothing because they were themselves, many of them, raped when they were children.
		It's not a coincidence that Justin Trudeau is gay.
		Obama, gay.
		Zelensky, gay.
		Emmanuel Macron, gay and married to a trans man who molested him when he was a child.
		I mean, fact check, all true.
		I got to watch that girl's show.
		Lovely.
		It sounds amazing.
		I take nothing back.
		But you catch the vibe here.
		The vibe here is that Tucker Carlson is criminally laundering ideas through his Beyond the Pale guests.
		And Ben is using the preferred strategy of out-of-context clips to paint a picture of my perspectives, which I stand by.
		Yeah, dinosaur bones are by and large always found by the experts.
		You can look it up yourself.
		And yes, if I wind up dead in mysterious circumstances, you should obviously assume it was orchestrated by Zionists.
		Duh.
		In lengthier clips, which he didn't show, I've asserted that this entire American culture, which has grown quite perverse, it's a culture of vices that we are suffering from today, a culture that is filled with pornography, gambling, transgenderism, radical feminism, modern psychology, pharmaceuticals.
		If you research these topics historically, you will recognize that they were brought to and fought by, fought for on our shores by people like Emma Goldman on feminism.
		Sigmund Freud, the father of modern psychology.
		The gambling empire is where the Adelson Empire wealth comes from, as are many pharmaceuticals like the Sackler family.
		These people have their names on buildings in Tel Aviv.
		The owners of Purdue Pharma, the architects of the opioid epidemic.
		Pornography, our boy Al Goldstein took happy credit for that, right?
		He's the one who notoriously said the only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think Christ sucks.
		Catholicism sucks.
		We don't believe in authoritarianism.
		Pornography becomes a way of defiling Christian culture as it penetrates the very heart of the American mainstream.
		By the way, Al Goldstein was right.
		That actually has happened.
		And pornography, if you're wondering, is somehow considered how it became somehow considered free speech.
		That's because Jewish individuals in America fought for that.
		Samuel Roth, actually, that's his name, fought for that decision in court.
		Transgenderism, go back and try to figure out where that came from.
		Magnus Hirschfeld was the doctor and the sexologist.
		So these are the facts, and the facts don't really care about your feelings.
		So please keep me in context.
		There's a lot people can learn from me.
		All that aside, I have to say that I was quite stunned that he found within himself, Ben, the audacity to present this attack on Tucker as a noble defense of Charlie.
		Here's what Ben said in his own words.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		There's no question that Tucker has become the most virulent super spreader of vile ideas in America.
		And the rest of us who oppose those vile ideas have every right to call him that.
		There is one other element here that's even darker, if possible.
		Tucker Carlson preys on the friendship he proclaims with others.
		And then he knives them directly between the shoulder blades when convenient for him.
		Tucker Carlson is, in short, a terrible friend.
		Tucker Carlson was supposedly Charlie Kirk's friend.
		Charlie believed that Nick Flentez was vermin.
		That's a direct quote.
		He believed that because Nick Flentes dedicated his life to destroying Charlie Kirk and TP USA from the inside.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		So first and foremost, the idea that in order for you to show that you're a good friend of somebody, you have to agree not to host people on your platform from conversations is just so anti-Charlie.
		It's unbelievable.
		It's just, it is disrespectful, really, to his legacy.
		And it is simply a fact, which I feel comfortable sharing now that Charlie and Ben Shapiro did not get along because Charlie found out that Ben was operating behind the scenes to stop him and sort of hinder the growth of Turning Point USA in our early days, right?
		When things, when we were kind of coming up together, me and Charlie as partners getting out there.
		And I have only about 80 to 150 text messages from Charlie to that effect.
		This is not a debate, by the way.
		This is a fact.
		So challenge me to share the messages.
		I will gladly.
		Now, when Charlie tried to figure out where the sudden hostility was coming from, because he at first admired Ben, like I admired Ben, actually, Charlie was the one that told me you should watch Ben debate videos so you can strengthen your debate skills.
		The next thing we knew, we were hearing that he was trying to block us.
		And they had a conversation.
		Ben told Charlie, again, this is according to my messages with Charlie, that Ben was in part upset because I made a joke about him, a literal lighthearted joke when I appeared on Joe Rogan back in 2018.
		Do we have that clip, Skylar?
		We can roll that.
		Like, I can't take anything seriously anymore.
unidentified		So, well, there's things to be taken seriously, but celebrities probably are on that list.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		So Ben Shapiro's right.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		No, well, he's right about this.
		This is, you know, but he was like trying to correlate like what Kim did, like, with Alice Marie Johnson with like that.
		And I'm like, come on, man.
		That's like totally different.
unidentified		And just in general, like sometimes he just gets a little like hall monitor for me.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Like, you know, like, it's just like, you know, he can't help himself.
unidentified		I know.
		He just a funny guy.
		He's very snarky.
		I like him a lot.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		I like him too.
		That's the thing.
		It's like we actually really get along.
		But like the hall monitor, like I know these types in school.
		Like I was in their classes, you know, like they're just like late to school.
		Like the last person you want to see is like the hall monitor.
unidentified		Like, you know, like the idea that she would be late, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Like he's writing you a pink slip.
		It's like, Ben, just give me the pink slip, dude.
		Like, you know, like that just can't see Ben.
		All right.
		Like, right?
		Like, you know, this is a gateway to Saturday school.
		Like, it's just like.
unidentified		That's a good impression of him.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Lighthearted joke, but specifically, Ben said to Charlie that he was upset about that and that he, I, Candace, was going to milo my career if Charlie didn't get away from me.
		Now, obviously, the story goes, Charlie stuck with me despite Ben's urging.
		We kept climbing.
		We reached a point where as a team, Charlie and I were suddenly undeniable.
		Some producer in June of 2018 then reached out to us to book us on Ben's show.
		And honestly, I'm so glad they did this because in retrospect, it's actually one of my favorite Charlie memories because it just makes me smile to reflect on because Charlie, he was never mean-spirited.
		He always was just funny.
		He always chose humor, lighthearted humor to get over any situation.
		He was never a person that wheeled and dealed behind the scenes to prevent other people from becoming successful.
		It just wasn't in him, right?
		He wasn't vengeful.
		Vengeance is actually kind of the vice that I've had to work on a lot.
		But Charlie's perspective was just laugh and move on.
		Anyway, the story goes, we get the invite to be on Ben Shapiro's show.
		And I'm like, no, F that.
		He was so awful to us.
		He said this about me miloing my career.
		We should not do his show.
		Why would we do his show?
		And Charlie's like, no, it's great.
		Let's do it because we won.
		Okay.
		We won, Candace.
		And I'm like, okay, fine.
		We get to the location.
		I think it was in Sherman Oaks, California at that time.
		And Charlie says to me, we're in the green room, hey, will we take a photo with him?
		I'm going to puff my chest out and stand extra tall so we never forget this moment of us having triumphed over Ben Shapiro.
		And he actually does it.
		And it was completely hilarious.
		And this is actually the photo from that.
		Charlie did that totally on purpose.
		It was such a Charlie Kirk thing to do.
		And it became like our perfect inside joke every time we felt like he was kind of saying little things about us.
		And that was Charlie.
		That was just the spirit of Charlie.
		And he moved on from it.
		He was always cordial beyond that.
		He never felt any nastiness.
		The point of me sharing this, though, is to make it very clear that Charlie loved Tucker.
		I can go through all my messages with Charlie.
		And he loved Tucker.
		Not for a single second did he not admire and respect and greatly appreciate Tucker.
		And he fought for Tucker to be on the turning point stage until his dying day, literally.
		Charlie was not in love with Ben Shapiro.
		He didn't hate Ben Shapiro.
		He just, I would say, experienced Ben Shapiro.
		We all get the Ben Shapiro experience at some point.
		Despite this, he always, as I said, kept it cordial because that's who he was as a person.
		But what I will not allow is this absolute inversion of reality where Ben Shapiro becomes any sort of voice on who is and who is not portraying their friendship with Charlie.
		I will not allow it.
		Like I said, everybody has a vice.
		And when I reflect on Charlie's, it is probably that he associated success and growth with money.
		And I believe that that is probably the conduit for the snakes that got into his company, got into the donor base, whatever it is.
		Me, I don't suffer from that vice.
		I don't care about money.
		I would gladly, as you have seen me do, burn it all to the ground to get out one modicum of truth.
		And if you'd like to hear something else that happens to be true, in the immediate aftermath of Charlie's death, people that were extremely close to Charlie, including donors, were very touched by a monologue that Matt Walsh did over on the Daily Wire.
		I didn't see it.
		I was too aggrieved to watch anything, but apparently Matt Walsh did an amazing monologue.
		So the team reached out to host Matt Walsh, to ask Matt Walsh rather, to host Charlie Kirk's show because they wanted to keep it going.
		And they were told that that was not allowed to happen unless Ben Shapiro was also invited.
		And in the true spirit of Charlie Kirk, turning point, cordially accepted those post-humus terms.
		Anyways, those are the facts.
	Turning my attention to another matter, Israel is rather obsessed with this already failed operation to stage a hostile takeover of the legacy of Charlie Kirk.
	So obsessed that the Jerusalem Post completely fictionalized, or rather published a completely deranged lie about Erica Kirk.
	Here is the statement that was issued by the Israeli War Room account over on Twitter, and they were citing the actual reporting from the Jerusalem Post, which was written by journalist Michael Starr.
	They published this.
	Charlie Kirk, the founder of TPUSA, will be post-humously honored at Israel's 2025 Christian Media Summit in recognition of his courageous stand for truth and his steadfast support of Israel.
	Michael Starr reports, Miss Erica, Mrs. Erica Kirk, will accept the award on her husband's behalf, a moving tribute to a man who inspired millions to stand with Israel when it mattered most.
	The Pillars of Jerusalem award inspired by the verse teaching that the world stands upon justice, truth, and peace, will also be presented by Douglas Murray, Yel Eckstein, and Dr. Jergen Bueller.
	So obviously the internet was like, this is crazy if this is true.
	And internet, including me, I was like, this is actually insane if this is true.
	Steadfast support of Israel.
	This is just a lie.
	And you know how I feel about lies.
	Fortunately, Andrew Colvett, the spokesperson for Turning Point USA, instantly came out and slapped down the rumor.
	Andrew wrote this, this is the first we're hearing of this.
	We've reached out to the reporter at the Jerusalem Post for a correction.
	How do you just say Erica Kirk is going to accept this award on behalf of her husband because of his steadfast support for Israel?
	That's not like a casual error, is it?
	Well, the journalist replied, and here is what he had to say.
	Michael Starr said this on X.
	He said, the Israeli government press office wavered on claims that Erica Kirk would be accepting by video call a post-humus award on behalf of Charlie Kirk after Turning Point USA said that it was not aware of the award and its CEO was not scheduled to participate.
	And he is calling that wavering.
	I'm calling that Israel's got an Israel.
	They just lie.
	They tell audacious lies.
	And when they get caught, they then gaslight and pretend that they didn't get caught with their hands in the cookie jar, right?
	And it's just getting ridiculous.
	It is so ridiculous to watch them continue to lie about where Charlie Kirk was at in his mind at the end of his life.
	You're not getting away with it.
	The people don't believe you.
	It doesn't matter how many, how much money you spend, how many talking heads you sent out to pretend that he didn't waver in his support.
	He did.
	He did.
	We've been reading Charlie in his own words, okay?
	Like, you can't undo this.
	It's lost.
	Yes, he supported Israel throughout his entire career.
	And then he felt the agent Smiths coming in, pressing him and pushing him, ironically, over Tucker.
	And it really shows that you have no shame to do it again, to do it again posthumously, to say Tucker must never speak on a turning point stage.
	Tucker must be canceled because Tucker wasn't a true friend to Charlie Kirk when Charlie Kirk died fighting for his right and for his friendship with Tucker Carlson.
	I think that's just, that's, that's ridiculous and it's shameless.
	And I guess before we take a bit of a break here, I want to say that there is going to be a day when we all get to puff our chests out, stand tall, and recognize that we, the American people, triumphed over the Israel lobby.
	That's all I'm going to say about that.
	We'll be right back.
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	Okay, so I want to address this.
	So many people have been writing into us, sending us emails, people that are paying in super chats asking me to address Erica Kirk.
	And I guess my question back would be: what is there for me to address?
	She hasn't sat down for a long interview.
	All we have seen from Erica has been the speech at the memorial event for Charlie Kirk.
	I see the innuendo that is online.
	I am interested in investigating who killed Charlie Kirk.
	And the people that I have been reserving my ire for, my smoke for, my investigation for are the people that are blatantly lying.
	Okay.
	People that are just lying about Charlie Kirk.
	That was my reason for going after Alex Clark.
	She lied about the Catholic thing.
	That was my reason for going after Andrew Colvet, Mikey McCoy.
	Anybody that's told a lie, Rob McCoy, blood all over him.
	You got my attention.
	What lie has Erica told that I'm supposed to be focused on?
	Okay.
	Like, has she said something about, did she come out and say Charlie never had an issue with Israel in the end?
	He loved Israel to his dying breath.
	She hasn't done that.
	She simply hasn't done that.
	What we have around the corner is a big interview that's going to be dropping this week.
	Erica Kirk sat down with Jesse Waters, and I can tell you, Charlie loved Jesse Waters.
	Jesse Waters gave us the most playtime on Fox News back in the beginning.
	That was the big show that we got to book.
	And so it's a good fit.
	It's a fitting program for her to go on to.
	If she was sitting down with like Bibi Netanyahu's entourage, I might have something to say.
	But everything that she has done has been, she's been having conversations with people who were actually friends with Charlie.
	Erica is also, I think, slated to join Megan Kelly on tour.
	Don't quote me, but I'm pretty sure I saw that being teased.
	Charlie opened up to Megan in the end.
	Megan stood 10 toes down on telling the truth, which is why I deeply respected her for doing this about the pressure that Charlie was under.
	And it was not easy for Megan to do that.
	Okay.
	She is still catching heat for the fact that she did that.
	So I feel like Erica is kind of sending a message here that she's not standing against the people that are telling the truth.
	I said early on: if Erica Kirk asks me to be quiet, I will be quiet.
	She didn't ask me to be quiet.
	So I don't know what I'm supposed to do.
	A show on whether I like her hair, her outfits, that doesn't feel right.
	And also keep in mind, that is the mother of Charlie Kirk's children.
	I had a real relationship with Charlie Kirk, a real friendship with Charlie Kirk, and what is left of him in this world are his two small children.
	So, to just take a baseless attack, if I catch her to lie, it's a little different.
	To just take an attack on her does not feel appropriate to me.
	I haven't seen any reason to do that.
	So, I'm looking forward to the sit-down with Jesse Waters.
	I think we're going to get a lot more from Erica and we're going to see where her mindset is.
	Currently, there is one clip that is going around, and I have some unsolicited advice for Erica.
	And I appreciate the sentiment of what she's saying here.
	Let's take a listen.
unidentified		The defense wants to ban cameras in the courtroom.
		How do you feel about that?
		There were cameras all over my husband when he was murdered.
		There have been cameras all over my friends and family mourning.
		There have been cameras all over me analyzing my every move, analyzing my every smile, my every tear.
		We deserve to have cameras in there.
		Why not be transparent?
		There's nothing to hide.
		I know there's not because I've seen what the case is built on.
		Let everyone see what true evil is.
		This is something that could impact a generation and generations to come.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		So, I agree with the sentiment, and I'm glad that she has pointed out how ridiculous it is to not want cameras into the courtroom, how ridiculous it is to allow him to appear virtually, not even on camera, for some pre-hearing matters.
		None of this makes any sense to the public.
		And what I did say early on, I don't remember which episode it was, was I would not have wanted Erica to, it would not be my, it would not have been my advice for Erica in a stage of grieving to go from being the widow to being the CEO and the chairman of the company.
		If I was running the company, I would have said, let's put in place an interim CEO, right?
		Someone below Justin Streife, I think, was the COO.
		I would have put in an interim CEO and allowed people to figure things out because it is a true statement that there's two things happening here.
		There's a widow and then there is the chairman and the CEO.
		And that person, no matter what, is going to have to catch heat for any decisions the business is making.
		That's just the reality of the way the world works.
		When you're a CEO and your boss, if a mistake is made, it doesn't matter whether you did it, whether you said it, whether you tweeted it, it's going to come down on you.
		And she has assumed that role.
		Okay.
		So criticisms pertaining to anything at Turning Point USA that are being directed at Erica are fair.
		Obviously, they are fair if they are directed about Turning Point USA and their actions.
		The second thing that I would say, and again, this is unsolicited advice, so she's free to throw it out.
		But in the entire issue in the energy right now, is that people, irrespective of what's happening on paper, don't believe the story.
		They don't believe the story.
		And you are, and of course, this is only a snippet of the interview, so I'm sure more will be said here.
		But I'm getting that you have seen the case, you think it's a solid case.
		She thinks it's a solid case at least, and is saying, show everybody what you have so they can see true evil.
		Within her capacity of chairman and CEO of Turning Point USA, they could be more transparent about what happened that day.
		People don't like the stuff that they've seen about Mikey McCoy.
		They don't like what they've seen about Rob McCoy.
		They don't like the history of Rob and Mikey McCoy and their involvement here.
		They don't like the video of Terrell.
		They don't believe what time text messages were sent or when the phone calls took place.
		You know, Rob McCoy is lying.
		In the areas that you can control the transparency, I think doing that would be beneficial to Turning Point USA because I don't think Turning Point USA is going to survive if they continue down this path of Tyler Boyer late night tweeting at donors as he did over the weekend.
		Think he directed his fire at like John Mappin and Arena Mappin called John Mappin a loser.
		I don't think that that's the correct messaging to come out of Turning Point USA.
		And there is something that my husband always says to me, and I don't know if he got it from somebody else.
		He probably did, but the expression is: the market is always right.
		The market's always right.
		He says this about like trading and things of that nature, meaning irrespective of what your opinion is or what you think you know, the market is the market.
		So maybe the top execs at Cracker Barrel thought it was brilliant to change the marketing, and they brought in the highest paid advertisers to do that.
		And they thought it was sleek and it was amazing.
		The people revolted and they said, We don't, we don't like this.
		We don't trust it.
		Put that old man back up there.
		We want to see the cracker and the barrel or we're out.
		And guess what?
		The market was right.
		That's kind of the point of the expression.
		The market is always right.
		And the market right now is saying we don't believe a single thing that happened that day.
		We do not trust the donors at Turning Point USA.
		We've got no messaging about whether those donors were removed.
		We want Turning Point to hit hard, the people that are lying.
		Why are we getting this dance around the Catholic topic, which again did not come from Erica?
		Okay.
		It did not come from Erica.
		And I would imagine there are a lot of people that are speaking in your ear.
		That's what it means to become the to wake up one day and be the chairman and CEO of a major company.
		But people are going to need clarity on these matters because it doesn't feel like those snakes are out of the garden.
		That's how it, that's what it doesn't feel like, I would say.
		And so, yeah, I would say in every aspect that you can be transparent, which doesn't involve the feds, I would do that.
		Look forward to obviously watching the interview that is going to premiere in two days on Fox News with Jesse Waters.
		I will certainly be watching.
		Now, speaking of a lack of transparency, I am everyone right now when I say that Cash Patel is the most embarrassing human in the United States.
		Embarrassing for two reasons.
		One, Charlie Kirk was a big supporter of Cash Patel, had him on his show, really pushed for him to get the role that he is in, director of the FBI.
		And he has just been terrible in this case.
		He just has been objectively.
		Okay.
	Everything that we have seen coming out of this case makes entirely no sense, from the impassioned messages written by 20-year-old gay men, which don't exactly sound Gen Z, to this kind of ridiculous narrative that we can't see anything.
	We can't watch him drop down.
	There's cameras everywhere, but you can't show us anything.
	All of the holes that are still in this story.
	And I didn't think he could make matters worse than over the weekend.
	Really, guys, we are just not a serious nation.
	That's what I want you to know.
	After this tweet, I realized we are not a serious nation and the empire is in its decline.
	I actually think I want to be Russian right now after what Cash Patel tweeted.
	He, Cash Patel, made me want to be Russian like tomorrow.
	Like, I'm going to go live with Putin because at least he's like a serious person, right?
	And Cash Patel is no longer serious.
	So the backstory is Cash Patel, he had a marriage breakup.
	He starts dating this cute little thing, Alexis.
	She's very cute, very pretty girl.
	Makes videos online.
	And I don't know.
	I guess he flew down in his FBI plane to go see her down in Nashville.
	People found out that he went to go see her down in Nashville.
	The internet revolted and said this is an inappropriate use of taxpayer funds.
	Now, it turns out that he is required to fly on the FBI plane no matter where he goes, whether it's a personal event or if it's a business event.
	But he is a hypocrite because there are clips of Cash Patel calling the FBI corrupt before he was in the FBI and saying that taxpayers shouldn't have to fund their personal trips.
	And now he's funding his personal trip to go see his girlfriend Alexis.
	So the internet didn't like the hypocrisy.
	The internet was correct.
	The market is always right.
	Okay.
	The internet was absolutely correct about this.
	And what Cash Patel did was he wrote this like Andy Cohen hosting the real housewives of DC or something type tweet where he defends his girlfriend.
	I mean, how old is this girl?
	But seriously, she's young.
	She's very young.
	And this is what he wrote.
	I'm just going to read it because it's so embarrassing that we have to read it.
	And then I'm going to get a passport to Russia.
	Okay.
	Here is the tweet.
	This is from the director of the FBI, people.
	Buckle up.
	America's so serious.
	We're big and we're bad.
	Ready?
	I am proud of the work of this FBI.
	We're taking violent criminals off the streets in record numbers, crushing the fentanyl crisis, dismantling cartels, saving children, hunting down terrorists, and so much more.
	Let me be clear.
	We will not be distracted by baseless rumors or the noise from uninformed internet anarchists and the fake news.
	I've always said, criticize me all you want, but going after the people doing great work, my personal life or those around me is a total disgrace.
	The disgustingly baseless attacks against Alexis, a true patriot, and the woman I'm proud to call my partner in life are beyond pathetic.
	She is a rock-solid conservative and a country music sensation who has done more for this nation than most will in 10 lifetimes.
	I'm so blessed.
	Sorry, pull that back up.
	I got to finish.
	I'm so blessed that she's in my life.
	Attacking her isn't just wrong.
	It's cowardly and it jeopardizes our safety.
	My love of family will always be my cornerstone, and you will never tear that down or keep me from them.
	I and this FBI will stay laser focused on our mission and continue the reform that we promised, rebuilding this borough from the ground up.
	Okay, it's like a lot.
	And I love that Twitter hit them immediately.
	They hit him with a little fact check.
	People are not attacking Cash Patel's certificate and other, but rather reacting to his firing of people who point out his usage of government funds to travel to her shows.
	Now, objectively, this is embarrassing.
	Objectively, Alexis, she seems like she's a really sweet girl.
	She is not a country music sensation.
	It's sweet that you call your girlfriend that, okay?
	She's just not a country music sensation.
	It's ridiculous.
	It's like me talking to my daughter.
	Like, I do tell her she's a sensation.
	She's everything she does is sensational.
	It's just, it's so unbelievably petty.
	It's ridiculous.
	It's this entire tweet.
	I just went, not every thought you have in your head needs to be sent.
	This does not make you look masculine.
	It does not make you look like somebody you should be taking seriously.
	There is no question that Vladimir Putin and the homies left.
	They did, without question.
	They're on a group chat right now.
	Ha ha ha.
	She's a country music sensation.
	His girlfriend.
	She's upset.
	She makes commentary on the internet.
	Okay.
	Fair game.
	If you're going to weigh into pot, if you're going to wade into politics, then you have to be able to deal with some pushback.
	Whatever they were saying about her cash, okay?
	He's only been dating her, by the way, for like a year and a half.
unidentified		Okay.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Like this is like, it's like a new girl that he's dating.
		And we're talking about, just to remind you, in case you're just tuning in, we are talking about the director of the FBI.
		And we are supposed to take away from this that we should have faith that he is emotionally stable enough that he has steeled himself for this investigation into Charlie Kirk's murder.
		Like we are supposed to believe this is not a crash out.
		Man, I wish she had said to you, don't send that, honey.
		Honey baby, don't send that, honey.
		I don't, I wouldn't send that, honey, baby.
		That does not, it might, it maybe you feel masculine doing it, but when you send it, it lets people know that America is weak.
		Like you need to be very reprimanded for this tweet.
		Could you imagine Vladimir Putin sending this tweet?
		Could you imagine any of his henchmen immediately, they would be fired.
		And that's why I would like to again plead with you guys to consider when I run in the future for dictator of the United States, to consider how I will deal with this immediately.
		I will sentence him to a month of hard labor.
		Obviously, that's the only correct response to Cash Patel writing this like, I don't like these mean girls tweet.
		It's ridiculous.
		We are not serious people.
		The empire is in decline.
		So figure out where you're going to live because I'm between Namibia.
		and Russia.
		That's it.
		We'll be right back and answer some of your questions.
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		All right, let's get into some of your comments.
		Maxi Dodo starts.
		He writes, dear Candice, thank you for being a true friend to Charlie.
		My son's middle name is Charlie.
		He is nine and you have helped make his name even stronger.
		You are an inspiration.
		God bless you and your family.
	Michael writes that from Australia.
	Thank you, Michael.
	I love that what I say has reached Australia.
	I wish that I was not banned from Australia, but you know me.
	I'm a super bad criminal, bad to the bone.
	I won't worship Israel.
	Stacey Massey writes, so many trolls in the chat, yet by being here, they are supporting Go Candace.
	Yeah, there's so many bots in the chat.
	I'm sorry that you guys have to go through that.
	We could actually put a timer so they can only post every 30 seconds.
	Maybe we'll do that going forward.
	Gmon writes, you are a shining light in the dark world.
	We love you and are behind you.
	Don't give up or back down.
	I'm not giving up or backing down.
	It's like this, if they were ever going to steal me and make me so angry that I would just be on a warpath, it would have been by assassinating Charlie Kirk and making me watch it.
	Truly.
	Like if you wanted a political foe, this was the way to do it.
	And what's so funny is I've said in so many rooms, like most people consider me as a formidable enemy, but I'm a much more formidable friend.
	And I'm going to continue to be a formidable friend to Charlie Kirk.
	And the best way that I can do that is just telling the truth.
	No matter what the truth is, I can just share the truth.
	And that's the amazingness is like we just constantly text it all the time.
	And as I said, I have no reason to lie.
	At Turning Point, USA has access to all his messages.
	They can tell you that the messages are real, whether they're true or whether they're false.
	And the truth is enough.
	The truth is always enough.
	Tom Paul writes, Tyler Robinson's ACT score, ACT score was 34.
	So he was in the 99 percentile.
	Thomas Matthew Crooks' SAT score was in the 99 percentile.
	Both recent loan shooters scored in the 99 percentile on standardized testing.
	Not a coincidence, as if it is out of the same playbook.
	Something I want to say about that, something actually that I would like to reiterate about that, because I believe that is the reason for standardized testing, is that it flags for the government people that could be a problem down the line.
	It's a kind of a repeat story in a lot of these mass shootings.
	I think also the one that was in, and I can't think of the guy's name, but it was in Connecticut.
	Similar story.
	He somehow hacked the government system and then the FBI showed up at his door and then he was a part of some Yale program.
	I think it's Adam Lanza is what I'm thinking of.
	So there's a theme here.
	And my opinion on that is not something that can be discussed on YouTube.
	So I'll save it for my book club tomorrow.
	Petal writes, love you, Candace.
	Please claim.
	Oh, people claim you don't have a degree, but I've heard you say you do.
	Please set the record straight.
	Yeah.
	The truth is that I grew up poor.
	I was the third of a family with four children.
	My mom didn't even graduate high school, actually.
	And my family didn't have the money to send me to college.
	So I took out a ton of loans, student loans, Sally Mae loans.
	And then in, don't quote me on the year, but I think it was 2010, Sally Mae had a big collapse.
	And they said, you can't go back for your senior year because we can no longer fund you to go back for your senior year.
	So I dropped out temporarily.
	And then when I had my own money and paid off my student loans, which was something like $150,000 in student loans, which is absurd to me.
	Such a predatory system.
	You're literally preying on poor people.
	Disgusting.
	But that's what usery is all about.
	Once I paid down my student loans, I re-enrolled to finish my last year.
	And so I have two degrees, actually.
	What else do we have here?
	TB writes, it's important to be exposed to all perspectives with the right to respectfully disagree.
	Charlie stood for that.
	So anyone who is divisive over this right is, as Candace says it, fake and gay.
	Yeah, Charlie believed in free speech.
	He didn't even blink when I hosted Nick Fuentes.
	What an absurd idea that Charlie would have.
	If Charlie ever messaged me and said, you're betraying me by speaking to this person, I wouldn't have been friends with him.
	That's the reality.
	Charlie was so cool.
	And that's why I hate that they're trying to make him like a dork in the afterlife.
	And I don't say a dork as in someone that's like well researched and knows the facts.
	I mean somebody that is so lame that they cannot beat you in the free market.
	So they're trying to arbitrarily force you out as they are doing in Tucker Carlson because you're bigger than them.
	So trying to create scandal.
	They're trying to scandalize your name so that people stop watching you and trying to say, well, you can't speak on this platform because they can't beat you by being themselves because they suck.
	They're annoying.
	People don't like them anymore.
	It's not cool to say, don't have a conversation.
	It's not cool to hold up like some donor printed signs and do a dance in front of Randy Fine.
	Tucker is not MAGA.
	People can see which way the wind is blowing and it's against Israel because everything they do is uncool.
	And it also happens to be genocidal.
	So that doesn't help either.
	Anyways, you guys, tomorrow we have the book club.
	First time ever the book club was infiltrated.
	I'm proud of us.
	Very proud of us.
	People in the book club.
	So be sure to be there.
	I also remind you guys, make him a sandwich.
	If you want to buy that, go to make him a sandwich.com.
	You guys are going to love this book because it truly is very true and it's very funny.
	And it's the things that I have gone through, obviously, as a woman and kind of waking up to the reality of where that feminist movement came from.
	Emma Goldman, speaking of Beyond the Pale, that will make sense.
	That's one of the names of the chapter, Beyond the Pale.
	And you will know more about where all of these bad ideas happen to come from.
	Anyways, you guys, that was a fun Monday.
	Tomorrow, we're going to jump back into the timeline because I've got some amazing little factoids to add to it.
	And yeah, things got real interesting for Charlie after Tucker Carlson hit the stage.
	And we're going to speak about that.

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