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BREAKING NEWS! The Egyptian Military Was In Provo On 9/10. | Candace Ep 255
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candace owens
All right, you guys, happy Thursday and some breaking news for you because I knew it.
I knew it.
I didn't know, know it, but I knew it.
And now, ladies and gentlemen, I know, know it.
There were some Egyptian military men that were on the ground on September 10th in Utah on the day of Charlie Kirk's assassination.
And we now need to demand that they publicly release details of who those individuals were and why they were there.
This is huge, okay?
In other news, Zionists are going crazy like they are every day.
They really do not want us investigating Charlie Kirk's murder for some unknown reason.
They want us to stop noticing that there are so many issues in the story that they're trying to sell us.
And now they're up in arms demanding that Tucker Carlson gets canceled from all future turning point USA conferences.
And you're never going to guess how they're trying to spin this.
Well, you probably will guess.
It's anti-Semitism.
welcome back to Candace.
All right.
So while I was away in Wyoming, I received a rather shocking tip.
There were, as I am sure you are aware, some inexplicable flights that were happening that day.
And actually, they're not even inexplicable.
They could very easily be explained.
It's just that the feds are kind of declining to do so.
And we don't really have much information about those flights.
In particular, there was one flight that had a, I would say, describe it as an interesting morning.
It was contracted by our military.
For whatever reason, this plane departed from the Biggs Army Airfield at 6:13 a.m.
That's down in El Paso, Texas, right?
And despite the fact that they were heading to Montana, they decided to make an unusual dip at 9:16 a.m.
Again, this is in Utah time, okay?
We're doing all this in mountain time.
They dipped down to just 300 feet above ground over the Provo airport runway, and they made a loop.
I'm going to show you a screenshot here from, this is from flight radar.
So you can see that loop.
And again, this is a military plane, a military contracted plane.
And we know it's military because it's leaving from a military base.
Okay.
Really interesting thing happening there.
Mark, if you want to jump on right now, just to describe this for all the women that are listening to this podcast, what we're seeing here with that chart on the bottom.
unidentified
Happy to provide some man's planning.
So at the bottom, you can see the altitude and the airspeed of the plane.
You see it take off, goes to level flight, and then you see it dip down in the middle there.
And that's what we're looking at.
The time on there says 3.16 p.m., but that's UTC.
That's just the general time for airplanes.
So you go back minus six hours to give you Utah time.
So that gives us 9:16 a.m.
And then it goes back up and then continues to Montana.
candace owens
Okay, so it continued on to Kalispell, Montana, and then it lands for just under an hour before it again departs back for Texas.
Once again, on its return trip, it dips again to just over 300 feet over the Provo airport runway.
Now, we're going to show you that again.
This is from flight radar.
That dip, I should tell you, because there has been a lot of speculation about it online.
That took place approximately 26 minutes after Charlie was assassinated.
So that dip took place 26 minutes after.
And then the plane went back home or back to the home base in El Paso.
Now, it's possible, just to be fair here, that the plane was running a military training exercise that morning.
Maybe they were training a new pilot on how to make a fake landing or something.
I really don't know.
But this flight path did indeed happen.
We can confirm that.
And it has been accurately reported that the plane is owned by a certain LaSaill, L-A-S-A-I-L-L-C, regarding which there haven't been any more details provided because this has not exactly been the most transparent administration as they claimed they were going to be.
The second mysterious flight, which was well reported on at the time, I would say this was the most reported upon flight, again, by the public, and which eventually created so much pressure that it warranted a response from one of the owners of the plane, who was Derek Maxfield.
He's married to Shalaine Maxfield.
The two of them, they're a billionaire couple from Utah.
They run now, they run a human sex trafficking charity.
There's a lot of human sex trafficking charities in Utah.
And I should let you guys know that they are not the only owners of that plane, by the way.
Someone who didn't hit internet radar, who also co-owns that plane with them, is a person named Casey Baugh, B-A-U-G-H.
Now, I'm mentioning Casey Baugh because I found it when I was researching interesting that Casey Baugh had his name on an institute at UVU, the Baugh Entrepreneurship Institute, which operates out of the Woodbury business building.
Okay, I was like, whoa, when we didn't know any details, I was thinking like, hey, did this person let somebody onto the rooftop?
But of course, now we know that Tyler Robinson was not on the Woodbury building or on campus at all for that matter.
So Casey Baugh is not a suspect for having provided him access in any way.
But I will say that the Baugh Maxfield plane, I'm going to take you through what that was doing.
It caught a ton of attention because the plane departed from Provo, Utah at 1.20 p.m. local time.
In theory, then, of course, yes, a person could have shot Charlie Kirk, went straight to the airport, and then took off on a private plane.
And why this got even more attention was because they seemingly turned their transponder off.
That alarmed the public.
Why is this plane terminating their transponder?
Why don't we know, why can't we see more data happening on this plane, right, being collected from this plane?
So obviously, this couple, Derek and Shalane Maxfield, were feeling the heat and they issued a statement the following day, sometime in the afternoon, about 3 o'clock on September 11th.
And they said that contrary to a lot of the online conspiracies that were taking shape, the plane was actually empty when it departed Provo en route to Arizona, where he and some of his friends were picked up and they returned home to Provo.
Okay.
Some people thought, did they pick up like Turning Point USA people and return back?
We don't know at all, actually, who was on that flight manifest.
In theory, it's not really our business, but of course, given this high-profile assassination, it feels like everything should be our business.
Anyways, here's what he said specifically.
I'm going to read his statement in its entirety for good measure.
He wrote, Shalaine and I join our community, our state, and our nation in mourning the death of Charlie Kirk, and we pray for his family and loved ones during this difficult and tragic time.
His death and the way that it occurred was both horrifying and senseless.
We pray that the extensive efforts by law enforcement to locate Mr. Kirk's killer will be swift and successful.
Spoiler alert, no, it has not been.
As often happens, unfortunately, in the wake of such terrifying and public events, a variety of baseless theories and suspicions around Mr. Kirk's murder immediately took hold on social media, including one that has unfairly impacted our family.
To set the record straight, we provide the following facts.
Yesterday at 1.20 p.m. Mountain Time, a private aircraft owned by one of our companies with the tail number N888KG departed the Provo airport for Page, Arizona, pursuant to a pre-scheduled flight plan.
Occupants at takeoff included two pilots and no passengers.
That tail number arrived at Page, Arizona Airport at approximately 1.55 p.m. Mountain Time.
At 12.55 p.m. local time upon arrival, I, Derek Maxfield, boarded that plane along with seven additional passengers for the return trip to Provo.
We departed that PGA airport in Arizona at approximately 1.40 and arrived at PVU at approximately 3.15 p.m. Mountain Time.
Radar services with air traffic control were terminated in mutual agreement between Denver FAA Center and N888KG, approximately 10 miles from landing at PGA, which is consistent with generally accepted standard practice when flying in and out of non-towered airports like PGA.
N888KG pilots followed all FAA requirements and protocols, tower directions, and the predetermined flight plan.
This round trip was made at my request and solely for my purposes.
Any suggestion that the flights by N888KG yesterday are in any way connected to the tragic shooting of Mr. Kirk is inaccurate, false, and without any credible basis of any kind.
To our knowledge, no one associated with yesterday's flight by N888KG has been contacted by law enforcement for any reason.
And then they just say, we ask that you still, you just focus on bringing the people, bringing Charlie Kirk to justice, the murder of Charlie Kirk, finding some justice in that.
Okay.
So a couple of interesting things.
He admits that like something, like the services were terminated, but in compliance with law.
So they didn't break the law when they did that at all.
And what I can tell you is that I had a flurry of pilots that were working on getting details on that flight manifest, confirming its landing, et cetera.
And things got a little bit weird.
They were saying that it was unusual that stuff that was pretty standard protocol, the feds seem to be guarding very strange.
Now, I'm not saying this to implicate Derek Maxfeld or Shalene Maxfeld at all.
In fact, That's why I wanted to read their statement in their entirety, but I am telling you the feds were guarding this just like they were guarding the Dairy Queen.
It was weird.
Even airport personnel had been instructed to lie, actually.
The situation was therefore not routine.
And if you haven't caught on, I'm not really here for all of these extraordinary anomalies that just keep happening, right?
Information is power.
We want the information so we can dispel the rumor.
I don't see any reason, by the way.
Derek and Shalaine, if you want to reach out to me and tell me personally who was on the manifest, and I can just say, I actually haven't offered you that until this moment.
I would be glad to dispel all the rumors in innuendo.
If the feds are telling the airport to lie for some reason, there was one person who said they were supposed to land at Millionaire FBO, but then suddenly they shifted to another FBO and things were weird.
I would be happy to clear up everything for you in a way that makes sense.
And it could genuinely be because the government is so inefficient.
Major point that I want to make here is that the biggest anomaly that has happened is this kind of foreign angle.
Like right away, they just got out in front of it and were like, there's nothing to see here.
And we discovered, and I broke the story, that there was actually a third plane, which I found to be quite odd.
I reported on it, and the Zionists immediately seemed to me too panicked, right?
They issued what I describe as a false debunking regarding the point that I was making.
What they do in circumstances like that is when you say something that's really big, they focus on something really small and inconsequential, like an error that you made.
And I did make in terms of time zones.
And they're like, oh, well, this has been debunked, right?
It's being completely debunked.
You saw this in the Brigitte case.
She started going after people for defamation, not people that wasn't attacking them for the substance of the claim that you were born male because she was, but rather she goes off after them, like she's going after me for saying, oh, well, actually, you're saying that I stole my sister's ID and that's a crime.
So I'm going to sue you for that.
And then the media runs with it and says, oh, this has been debunked.
Nothing is being debunked.
And when they do that, when they focus on that, you know they are hiding something.
Okay.
When they focus on something that's totally inconsequential, a minor mistake that you make, they're hiding something.
So I reported that on the day of Charlie Kirk's assassination, an Egyptian Air Force plane took off from Provo, Utah Airport.
I reported that even more curiously, that Egyptian military plane had previously only ever been to the United States twice in that past year.
And both times it was in the lead up in the weeks leading up to Charlie Kirk's assassination.
Okay.
Here is that plane.
The tail number you can see here is S-U-B-T-T.
And this is a screenshot again from flight radar.
Now, of course, when I pointed out that this foreign military plane arrived on September 4th, so six days before into Provo, Utah, and departed six days later on September 10th, they ignored the huge substance of this, which is why is this Egyptian military plane here in the middle of Utah?
Instead, they said, oh, she made a time zone mistake, like as if I'm on flight radar every day, accustomed to reading the data here.
Yeah, I thought that I was looking at mountain time, like local time on flight radar.
As Mark just explained, no, they do it according to universal time.
Okay, big deal.
Like, actually, big deal.
Then I saw that the one random Twitter user that caught that mistake suddenly got boosted in the algorithm and they made it a trending story.
Like it was like trending story, this has been debunked.
And I was like, ah, I've been telling you guys for a while the military runs X, like not Elon Musk, the military.
These are military bots that you're seeing on X, but that was essentially the vibe.
Egyptian military plane, don't look over here.
We have debunked.
It has nothing to do with Charlie Kirk conspiracy theory because she got the time zone wrong.
It was actually the flight departed a couple of hours earlier than she said.
Okay.
You know me.
That just makes me more curious.
Anytime you see a Snopes level debunking, as I like to term it, it means you're onto something.
Anyways, I was going through the DCIA tips box, you know, our decentralized intelligence agency tips box, and I found a very interesting email.
I'm going to be very careful here to make sure I don't give this person away, but it was someone from a foreign country.
They wrote us claiming to have intimate knowledge regarding the flight.
And you can take what I'm about to tell you to the bank.
Okay.
In fact, you can even take this as a direct challenge to Cash Patel to dispute what I am going to say.
Thus far, have you noticed that no one has done that?
Like when I say something, they go, oh, she must be lying.
Oh, the screenshots must be fake because obviously Charlie didn't say this.
Oh, the thing is lying about the Catholic thing.
Oh, but nobody's doing any debunking here because I make sure always that I have solid proof of what I am saying before I say it.
And I feel that I have been presented with absolute solid proof from this individual who is in proximity to one of the individuals that was aboard this flight.
Okay.
I can now report to you that it is a fact that on 9-4, there were, this was not some dropping by in Utah as they were trying to claim because the plane needed to be serviced.
That's what they ran with.
They ran with, this could have been a routine servicing.
I guess there's just no place from Egypt all the way to Utah that an Egyptian military plane can like get a tire changed.
This is totally routine.
Nothing you see here.
Well, I'm telling you that for a fact, that plane was carrying military subcontractors.
And for a fact, they were dropped off in Provo, okay?
And that they did not make it back to Cairo.
They showed you, I showed you the plane left.
They left on September 10th.
It then laid over in Wilmington, Delaware, and departed back for Cairo on the 11th.
I am telling you that when that plane left, okay, those people were mysteriously missing from that plane.
Okay.
What's going on here?
Why are Egyptian military subcontractors?
What are Egyptian military subcontractors doing in the middle of Provo, Utah on the day that Charlie Kirk was assassinated?
Okay.
Again, I am saying as a fact, Cash Patel, please feel free to dispute this.
In fact, I almost demand that you dispute it.
I think you must.
You've been saying everybody's conspiracies are dangerous.
Thinking is dangerous.
That aircraft was not in Utah for any routine servicing.
Okay.
Rather extraordinarily, this person told me that it was there on some discreet mission.
So discreet that this individual was scared for their life to present this information, but felt compelled to present it because they too were horrified like the rest of the world.
Again, the mistake that was made here was executing him publicly.
People felt something, right?
They felt something.
They understood that whatever happened here was a tremendous act of evil.
And so what it led to was goodness, more goodness, more people standing up and doing something brave and saying, we need to root out this evil from our society.
What were they doing there?
When did they leave?
Who are these individuals?
I don't understand.
Kakash Patel, tell us about this flight.
Tell us who was on it.
Okay.
I wanted to be very thorough here and presenting this information.
So I was like, let's actually upgrade our flight radar account so we can go back three years on this plane's flight history, which is really the max setting that you can have on flight radar if you had a business account.
And here is what we pulled together for you guys so that you don't have to pay for a business account, which is way too expensive, especially for me who doesn't actually use flight radar often, but I am doing whatever I can to solve the murder of Charlie Kirk.
Here it is: three years.
You can see November and 2022.
We can go back as far as November and December of that year.
We can see that it routinely flies through Paris.
And I noticed, and you can take your time to freeze this and go through everything because I'm not going to read it all.
I noticed that the trend here is that it always flies to an Air Force base.
Okay.
Look in 2025.
If you look under 2025, you will see this is what it did.
It went from September 4th, September 4th, it went from Cairo to Paris to France to Manat, North Dakota.
On September 10th, it departed Provo.
I think I'm missing one here, right?
No, it departed.
That's right.
September 10th, it departed Provo, Utah at 7:14 a.m. local time.
Okay.
And I am telling you that aboard that plane, it was not the same people that got onto that plane.
Okay.
That is what I am told by this individual.
She is saying that what actually took place was that they had some Egyptian military subcontractors person that she knows intimately.
I would not have taken this to the bank.
I had to really walk her through having the courage to do this any further.
And I am certain that this happened.
And I am certain, I feel, and feel like the rest of us feel that we are not getting a full picture.
Now, I will again stress that this individual never ever said that the mission, the secret mission, was related to Charlie Kirk.
In fact, they were explicit that they weren't entirely sure what the specific mission was, but that it was top secret.
Maybe playing devil's advocates, right?
And to be clear, when you play devil's advocate, you're advocating for the devil.
That's what I'm actually kind of doing here.
But maybe it was a joint military exercise of some description that was so discreet, so discreet that it required just like, you know, everybody to ignore it for the military to boost a random account to pretend that it was nothing to lie and pretend that this person, that this plane was here because it needed to be serviced in some capacity.
That's not true.
But maybe it was because, look, joint military exercise between Egypt and America for some unknown reason and Provo Utah was the place they had to do this.
And they decided to leave this plane.
And maybe people are still in Utah.
I don't know, but I'm demanding that we find out.
Okay.
And when you couple that information with what was trending yesterday, right?
This is the headline that came out of the Daily Mail: Cash Patel shuts down Charlie Kirk foreign intelligence probe in an explosive feud with Trump's counter-terror chief.
It really makes you wonder what Cash Patel is hiding.
There's absolutely no reason for Cash Patel to say, only I'm the person that's supposed to be looking into this.
It makes no sense.
If he is interested in solving Charlie Kirk's murder, then Cash Patel would be working with everyone.
Everyone across all departments would be locking arms and saying, Charlie Kirk was a wonderful friend.
He did everything he could to put this administration into power.
In fact, Trump would be late night tweeting, being like, I don't accept this narrative.
Trump would be asking questions.
His sons would be asking questions.
Turning point USA executives would be asking questions.
But instead, Cash Patel is saying, don't ask questions.
Everything that you're hearing is a conspiracy.
Homie has really turned into Dr. Fauci.
Okay.
This is like Dr. Cash Patel Fauci here, who's telling us to look any further would be somehow wrong to the legacy of Charles.
It would be harmful for us to ask questions.
It would be harmful for us to think.
That's what I'm saying.
Stop thinking.
So that's the phase that we are at where people are trying to pretend that to protect Charlie's legacy, we have to say less.
It's the exact opposite.
We have to say more.
And again, I am personally challenging you, Cash Batel, and your super transparent, super transparent administration to dispute what I'm saying.
Tell us in confidence that this plane came in by itself because it just needed to be serviced.
You know, just nothing here between here and Egypt, just needed, you know, put some fuel in the tank and then go home.
Answer the questions that we are asking.
I am telling you, I feel it that this flight, if we learn more about it, if we can figure out who is on this manifest, there is going to be a lot of questions that are answered in terms of what happened on September 10th.
Okay.
I'm not positive, but I have a pretty good gut feeling that the way that they behaved when I pointed out this flight, which is to lie and to explain nothing, means that they are scared and has them shook.
And of course, it's in the Middle East.
So I'm thinking there might have been some foreign involvement in Charlie Kirk's assassination.
Anyways, you guys, we are going to take a break and then put you through a Seth Dillon-level struggle session to explain to you that the best way to honor Charlie Kirk is to cancel Tucker Carlson or something.
Anyways, we'll be right back.
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Okay, I want to clarify one thing because Mark was mansplaining in my ear, and he is right.
I want to make sure that I speak perfectly.
When I said that the Egyptian flight in its past flights to America had landed on American air bases, I didn't mean they physically landed on American air bases.
I meant that they landed in cities where there are Air Force bases.
And the notable exception here is that Provo does not have an Air Force base.
They have one in Salt Lake City, but they do not have one in Provo.
So I hope that makes more sense there.
Now let's switch gears.
I can't wait to see what you guys dig up.
I also should add that if you know someone else on this flight manifest, guys, I don't care where you are in the world, as this person just proved.
It doesn't matter where you are.
If you have information, please email us at more tips at candaceowens.com pertaining to this Egyptian flight, this military flight.
What was it doing?
Maybe you checked them at a hotel nearby, right?
Maybe they were over the border and you saw randomly a bunch of people leading up to this between those dates.
Let's see, it landed into Provo on 9-4 and then it departed on 9-10.
There must have been hotels, presumably.
Maybe they're not, maybe they're staying with certain friends.
Let me know.
Did you see some Egyptian-looking dudes in Utah?
I feel like that way they would stand out in Utah, maybe, right?
I think they definitely would.
Please let us know.
More tips at CandiceOwens.com.
It is really amazing to see the whole world come together trying to solve this.
It just makes me so happy.
All right, jumping into this rather hilarious story, irrespective of whether or not you personally support the nation of Israel or not, I most certainly do not.
You've got to admit that the public representatives of Israel, the Zionists that have platforms, are insane.
I'm talking clinically insane, need to be shipped off to rehab for a couple of weeks, Malibu, maybe getting to kitchen next to the sea or something.
And they have come undone.
They've never actually really been done on the topic of Tucker Carlson or myself, but this is exceptional.
The backstory here is that Tucker Carlson, in case you missed it, hosted Nick Fuentes on his show.
And to be clear, I've hosted Nick Fuentes on my show.
I don't like Nick Fuentes.
And truly, not because of anything he said in the past, because how he treated me and my team and how he lied on me after it.
I actually am judging him based on my experience with him.
Okay.
I don't really believe in cancel culture.
And it was why I platformed him in the first place.
He said something when he was 18 and went through the gamut that I went through, that Tucker's going through right now.
I'm a 36-year-old adult and I'm equipped to handle that.
Not so fair for an 18-year-old kid to go through that.
I've been clear about that.
And that person should get a second chance to explain their story.
So Tucker invited him on to have a conversation.
And this has led to people insisting that Tucker Carlson gets canceled from all turning point future events.
Now, why are they saying he should be canceled?
Well, because it's so dangerous that he platformed Nick Fuentes, who has said terrible things online, and Nick Fuentes has been adversarial with Charlie Kirk.
Charlie Kirk didn't like Nick Fuentes.
So why is Tucker Carlson speaking to him?
Like that's their logic.
I spoke to him.
I don't like Nick Fuente.
I speak people I don't like to the whole time, actually.
It's a good thing to do.
You should get out and speak to people who you disagree with, people who you dislike.
It's okay to dislike people.
It's not okay to demand that other people be canceled for hosting them and having a conversation with them or maybe liking the person.
Maybe people want to listen to him.
Anyways, this led to Josh Hammer, who is our resident psycho, who really does look like that.
Like, this is not, that's not AI.
Okay.
That's not AI.
He wrote an op-ed in the Daily Mail, which they actually published, calling for Tucker Carlson to be neutralized.
Yeah, this is him, the guy who mysteriously calls for public executions the night before, and then he always backtracks and goes, hey, hey, hey, that's not what I meant.
That's not what I meant when I said that.
He actually publishes op-ed, says Tucker Carlson just hit a new low with this heinous betrayal of my friend Charlie Kirk, who is surely now rolling in his grave.
This is the, yes, you're right.
Is this the same Josh Hammer you're thinking who lied about Charlie's views on Israel changing, even though he was on the text message chain?
He lied over and over and over again, plus tried to sell his book.
Is he actually writing an op-ed claiming that it is Tucker Carlson who is apparently heinous?
Yes, he's doing that.
This is a direct quote from that op-ed.
He wrote, This looks like a war on MAGA and the modern American right.
If this looks like a war on MAGA and the modern American right, that's because that is exactly what it is.
Carlson and his clan had declared their jihad, not on the woke forces of civilizational arson on the adult-brained left, but on the forces of civilizational sanity on the MAGA right.
They hope to burn down MAGA and build a neo-pagan, anti-Western, anti-biblical movement in its stead.
The fox is now comfortably ensconced in the hen house.
And unless the fox is neutralized, the victim could be the entire extant GOP coalition itself.
He actually wrote that.
He published that.
And it's just incredible because you will notice this thing that all of the people who are now saying that they represent the MAGA movement weren't in it.
They are literally people that were the never Trump movement in 2015.
None of them.
They're just like, they're like, we've infiltrated MAGA and now we're going to tell you how to turn it into the losing movement that we all represented.
Here's how you do it.
Censorship, right?
We infiltrated MAGA.
We hated Trump forever.
In fact, these people were all pro-DeSantis, even when Trump was up against Ron DeSantis, okay?
They were against Trump.
They've held the line in hating Trump forever.
And now that Trump is inevitable, meaning he's in office and there's nothing they can do about it and he's not going to be reelected, they're pretending that they support Trump and that they're super MAGA by demanding that MAGA cancels Tucker Carlson, who is adored and loved by the MAGA base, of course.
Now, if you think I can't get any more ridiculous, you got to check out this very real tweet from the stop anti-Semitism hysterical account.
That account awarded me last year, the top anti-Semite of the year.
Thank you for all of you who voted and made sure that I won that.
They actually didn't give me any award, which feels pretty cheap to me.
Please don't put me on your account for saying cheap.
I'm sure that's not good.
Anyways, Stop Anti-Semitism actually tweeted this.
CNN platforming Anna Kasparian, Turning Point USA, refusing to cut Tucker Carlson.
This is how the Holocaust started.
Jew hatred normalized.
I don't know.
unidentified
Is that actually how the Holocaust started?
candace owens
I'm asking.
I'm asking for a friend.
Maybe I need to be re-educated here.
Is that what happened?
Tucker Carlson, someone like Tar Carlos, just had a conversation with someone that he disagrees with.
Anna Kasparian went on to like CNN and that was it.
Then there was a Holocaust and it has to be stopped.
I mean, it's not even good.
The level of emotional manipulation here isn't even good.
It's obviously funny.
You should laugh because it's hilarious.
They're not good anymore.
Were we convinced by this before?
Probably.
Maybe we all thought every time you mention the Holocaust, you go, I must do my part to make sure it doesn't happen.
But to hear them say this in this ridiculous and absurd manner, we have to recognize that this has always been a manipulation tactic.
That's exactly what it is.
They are trying to manipulate us to censor people, and we're not going to do it.
Anyways, Seth Dylan, another resident psycho on X, who pretended once upon a time he was like a funny guy just telling jokes, went on to Piers Morgan and decided to put Dave Smith, who I love, through a struggle session explaining why.
And yes, this is the same Seth Dylan at that notorious Hamptons summit, who I told you pressed Charlie.
And a couple of weeks before he died, it was horrific to Charlie, made Charlie feel as if he was suddenly sitting down and being told that his viewpoints had changed.
It was unacceptable.
It was a total peer pressure event or wound up being that in large part, thanks to Seth Dillon, who was leading the pack on questioning Charlie on his changing views.
Anyways, he has the audacity to put Dave Smith through a struggle session discussing this interview.
Let's watch a clip of it.
seth dillon
I think that it would have been a responsible thing and a good thing for the conservative movement if someone as prominent as Tucker with as large of audience as he has, if he was standing in the way of Nick Fuentes becoming more mainstream.
I think that would be a good thing for everybody.
And I'm disappointed that he didn't come to Tucker.
But he's free to do whatever he wants to do.
I'm free to criticize him for not handling the interview the way that I think it should have been responsibly handled.
I think it was extremely irresponsible.
dave smith
Okay.
unidentified
Okay.
dave smith
Certainly you're free.
You're free to criticize them.
You know, I would say that for all the people, by the way, who are so upset that Candace and Nick Fuentes have become so huge, like, honestly, dude, talking to guys like you, you have no one but yourself to blame for that.
It's all over the Israel issue, man.
And the reason why they got so much support behind them is because they were against this destruction of God.
It was just like the most just horrible, inexcusable thing ever.
candace owens
But I mean, that's a fact.
It was low-hanging morality.
Hey, I'm against killing children.
They tried to put all of us through.
How dare you, Candace?
You're anti-Semite for saying or not looking the other way because they're Palestinians.
And I guess I'm supposed to think that their life is not worth as much as an Israeli life.
Like one Israeli life is equivalent to a thousand Palestinian children or something.
And I rejected that.
And I've been pretty principled across the board on all matters.
And that is why I think my audience grew.
Certainly didn't grow because I was telling other people they had to shut up.
I'm not a part of cancel culture.
I don't care.
I got into, got into it with Nick Fuentes.
Never one said, cancel him.
Take him off Twitter.
Someone needs to do this.
If I feel that my ideas are better than something or someone, if I feel that my ideas are valid, I'll see you in the free markets.
But these people can't win in the free markets.
So now they're demanding censorship.
And it's going to get, by the way, a lot worse than this starting point.
We'll get into that in a little bit.
But first, I want to let you watch this second clip of what Seth Dylan, who clearly does not have a soul after Wade to Charlie, clearly is trying to pretend that he's Charlie's friend and now trying to use Charlie's legacy by pretending that somehow Tucker Carlson is not a true friend to Charlie because Charlie didn't like Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson spoke to him.
Watch this truly.
This is a psychological operation.
These people are nutty.
Take a listen.
seth dillon
I want to know what Dave thinks about Tucker essentially calling Charlie Kirk a heretic by saying that anybody who's a Christian Zionist is a heretic.
I mean, that was Charlie Kirk, was it not?
dave smith
Okay, but I mean, I think obviously he's speaking about evangelical Christians in general and saying that this violates the Bible, like to make it a bad thing.
seth dillon
Yeah, that's a circle that Charlie Kirk fits inside.
It applies to him.
dave smith
Okay, but he's okay.
So he's criticizing a view that Charlie Kirk had.
Yeah, I disagreed with Charlie on that too.
So what's your point?
seth dillon
He said he hates those people more than you.
He said he hates those people more than anybody else and called them heretics.
And yet he spoke at Charlie Kirk's memorial so glowingly.
How do you reconcile those two things?
dave smith
Yeah, he obviously didn't hate Charlie Kirk.
There you go.
seth dillon
Come on.
dave smith
This is like ridiculous.
Yes, he's making a point that he thinks that actually the Christians who put Israel above their own government and believe that like only Jesus can come back if the Jews control the area, that that is goofy.
And I agree.
seth dillon
Yeah.
Well, if you say you hate people that have Charlie's views, then you're saying you hate Charlie.
unidentified
Yeah.
seth dillon
Okay.
dave smith
If that's the argument you want to go with, okay.
candace owens
Actually, the argument I'd like to go with is that Seth Dylan is a liar, which is why two days before Charlie Kirk was killed, he was explicit in saying he was left with no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause, which would mean he didn't die a Christian Zionist, right?
Common sense, Charlie in his own words.
And Seth Dylan, you're aware of this because you put him through two weeks before the struggle session in the Hamptons.
What was it, August 5th and 6th, pressing him on the things that he said about Bibi Net and Yahoo?
He was hosting people to have that discussion.
But, you know, I guess for some Zionists, you would say it was almost fortunate that Charlie Kirk is no longer here to take that last step that you knew he was taking.
You didn't want another Tucker Carlson or Candace Owens, people who were very much in the pro-Israel camp and left it because we could not stand your immorality.
We could not stand your lies.
And we could not possibly think that God's chosen people would allow it.
unidentified
Okay.
candace owens
God's chosen people don't lie.
God's chosen people don't kill hundreds of thousands of people and then try to tell you that they're the victim because they're spending tons of money on Christian Zionists.
And yes, it is absolutely a heresy to get up on stage and to lie about what is in the Bible, to try to use it to manipulate people, to tell them that what's right here in the Bible is that they shouldn't follow Tucker Carlson or Candace Owens.
And yes, I would deem you to be, therefore, a heretic.
So I hope I'm clear about what I think you are, right?
People of your ilk are people that pretend to be Christians and make a ton of videos, some of them simply because they're paid to do so, some of them because they're in the military and these are their instructions, and manipulate people who are well-meaning and want to become close to God by telling them that they won't be saved unless they support this abomination in the Middle East.
So, anyways, this leads us, of course, Charlie's last words in that text chain.
He fought tooth and nail to make sure that Tucker Carlson stayed on the Turning Point USA speaking list.
That's the reality, okay?
That's the reality.
Those were virtually his last public words that we can read from his private text exchanges was that he wanted Tucker Carlson.
And now you're trying to convince us that the best way to honor him would be not to listen to what Charlie Kirk himself said.
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andrew colvett
And he basically said, I don't appreciate being morally blackmailed.
And, you know, and every time people would say that to him, he would dig his heels in.
It's like, well, maybe Tucker's going to give two speeches now to MFEST.
jimmy dore
She's got the screenshots from an internal chat that Charlie was doing with TPUSA.
And right up there, it says, just lost another huge Jewish donor, $2 million a year, because we won't cancel Tucker.
And I'm thinking of inviting Candace.
Whoa.
seth dillon
A few moments later.
unidentified
It brings me no pleasure to criticize Tucker Carlson as much as I have been doing.
But he has become the leading tip of the spear of what can only be described as a cancerous force threatening to engulf the entire American rights.
candace owens
They just can't stop, man.
They just cannot curb that Zionism.
They can't do it.
We'll see.
We'll keep notations on these individuals.
Anyways, I wanted to read this email that came in because yesterday in the QA section, somebody had asked, What do you think Charlie meant when he said he wanted you to be as David?
And I took the obvious answer, which was to slay Goliath, right?
To slay the Goliath.
And somebody wrote me this email and reminded me, of course, of the narrative beyond David slaying Goliath, David and his unique friendship with Jonathan in the Bible.
And I am going to read that email to you.
Somebody wrote, Candace, David and Jonathan were biblical figures from the Bible who shared a deep and profound friendship, forming a covenant of mutual support.
Jonathan was a son of King Saul, and David was a shepherd who became a great warrior and future king.
Their bond was strong, despite the fact that Saul became jealous of David's success, leading him to threaten David.
Their bond, the friendship began after David defeated Goliath and grew into an unlikely but profound friendship.
The Bible describes Jonathan's loving David as, quote, his own soul and forming a covenant with him.
Jonathan's loyalty was so great that he gave David his robe, his armor, and other symbols of rank, an act that has been interpreted as a transfer of succession.
Jonathan's support, Jonathan repeatedly protected David from his father, Saul, warning him of the king's intentions to kill him.
After Jonathan's death, David grieved deeply for his friend.
He later honored his promise to Jonathan by taking care for his son.
I love that.
I actually love that interpretation.
I didn't even consider in that moment when I answered that question.
And I do, I just love that.
I just wanted to say thank you to the person who wrote the email.
And if you consider that, that it really is about honoring your friend and properly grieving for your friend and realizing that you will not be able to be perceived as someone who even cared about the individual if you don't fight for them, if you don't stand up for them, if you don't look after their legacy, Legacy, take care of their legacy.
Don't allow these people like the Josh Hammers and the Seth Dillons to try to invade and quite literally turn Charlie Kirk into someone he is not.
Not for a single second.
Do I believe that Charlie would have considered shutting down Tucker Carlson because he sat down with Nick Fuentez?
It is so beyond the realm of possibility that it is sickening to watch them do this.
It really shows you, for those of you that are in my book club, what I was talking about when we read that last book about how they do this after death.
They fight for the person's legacy, even though they were the very same people who were harassing them.
Very same people that were making Charlie ill with the threats, with the money, who were pressing him at the Hampton, Seth Dillon, Josh Hammer on the text, hearing what he was going through, seeing what he was going through, will then say, oh, I proclaim myself in charge of that person's legacy.
It's twisted.
It's very, very twisted, but everybody can see it.
There's no doubt that everybody can see it.
All right, you guys, I want to run for you one more time before I get into your comments.
That tomorrow we're going to be dropping this amazing episode, me having sat down with Norm Finkelstein.
So take a listen.
norman finkelstein
The Economist magazine describes Gaza as, quote, a human rubbish heap.
The leading UN official on Gaza describes it as, quote, a toxic dump.
For the people of Israel, Gazans are vermin.
They're garbage.
They're human refuse.
candace owens
You guys were the ones that insisted, insisted that we all have a perspective on October 7th.
Then when we looked and we pierced that veil, we went, oh my goodness, how was I ever pro-Israel?
And now you want us to shut up.
norman finkelstein
There's a problem here.
A billionaire class of Jewish supremacists are now flagrantly using money as a blackmail weapon to silence not just criticism of Jews, but silence criticism of an ongoing genocide.
candace owens
I am very, very, very excited about that.
You're going to love it.
It's like I said, even if you support Israel, and that is perfectly your right, I think that you will become educated on a topic that has been, by and large, guarded by the mainstream media.
I think Americans have been extremely ignorant because I was among them.
I was extremely ignorant on this topic.
I think Jewish Americans are ignorant on this topic too, because that's how this was designed.
That's how this whole like pro-Israel matrix was designed to keep us dumb.
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They wrote, I can't with Josh Hammer's lip gloss.
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It is, yeah, it's not a good look.
I don't think it's a good look, Josh, but I shouldn't say that because on top of the struggle session or within the struggle session that Seth Seth Dillon was putting, actually, was this on his separate show?
Okay, it wasn't on Piers Morgan, right, Skylar?
Okay, listen to what Seth Dillon says about why Nick Fuentez is a terrible human.
I don't know why, but this made me laugh out loud because it's quite childish.
Take a listen.
seth dillon
He's got the right to talk to Nick if he wants to.
I think what a lot of people are expecting, though, from a conversation like that is if you're going to bring somebody who's like the leader of the Groipers, who has so much animosity for Jews and is just, you know, he says the most horrible things.
You know, like he, he said, well, I don't even know if I can repeat some of the things that he said, but you know, he called, he's called J.D. Vance names, you know, calling him fat and ugly and that he has a brown family, you know, like just his attitude towards minorities, towards women, towards Jews, and the things that he said, the glorification of Hitler, you know, these are all things that you would think Tucker claiming to be a Christian and a decent person would have a lot of interest.
candace owens
Okay, I just wanted to show that.
It's like, okay, I think we can all deal.
J.D. Vance is a big boy.
Okay.
If he got called fat, he can address that or actually just be an adult and not care at all because you're married.
Oh, he got called fat and ugly and brown.
Who cares?
Like, welcome to the internet.
These are these are men that are in their 40s.
If you cannot deal with somebody calling you names, just so you know, the internet is optional.
Watching Tucker Carlson sit down with Nick Fuentes is optional.
If you don't like someone, you are not required by law to watch their content.
So toughen up, Buttercup.
The thing that upsets me the most is that these are the kinds of people that rule over us.
You know what I mean?
Like these are the, like Josh Hammer is actually the editor at large at Newsweek, openly talking about his hostilities towards white men, right?
Because he views Jewish people as a separate race.
He's a Jewish supremacist.
There's no question that that's what Josh Hammer is because of the way he speaks about European white men.
And yet he's just allowed to be at a higher station in life than you.
Why?
Because of his connections or something?
Does he seem to be more intelligent than you?
Absolutely not.
So the whole thing is absolutely wacky that they can't deal with something as soft as he called him fat and ugly and brown.
Like, okay, like every second of the day, I'm being called mean names.
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Couple of more comments here.
Sister Bethy writes, Candace, I am on the floor.
I think just generally the screenshot of Josh Hammer, which is going to deeply upset Seth Dillings.
She was so mean, so mean.
Caitlin writes, Hey, Candace, I'm a huge fan and I believe all of what you say is true and genuine, but it does feel like you are drip feeding us the information that you have about Charlie's death and the betrayals around him episode by episode.
Are you unable to lay it out all at once for us?
And what can be done about cash's corruption?
Yes, I am obviously drip feeding.
That would not be smart for me to tell them everything that I know because I am trying to figure out who the rats are on the ship.
And that is why I've been intentionally setting bait, giving a little bit of information and allowing them to lie.
That is just the smart way to go about this, obviously, because I know that there's rats on the ship.
Some I know for certain.
But if I out those people, then the other ones can protect themselves and distance themselves.
I don't know everybody that is on the ship.
So, and who has betrayed Charlie?
So it's, this is the process that we are going through.
And by the way, what I don't know, which is kind of the big point of this, I don't know actually who pulled the trigger and killed Charlie Kirk, right?
And so there's kind of two running investigations who betrayed Charlie Kirk.
And I, by the way, make the argument that everyone is betraying him right now by not speaking out and telling the truth.
I would say that, right?
And then there's the other element of his who actually killed Charlie Kirk.
Carrie Jean writes, Charlie saw you as his David in 1 Samuel.
Jonathan loved David like his own soul, protected him, handed him the robe and sword of kingship.
He died young, never seeing the throne.
But David finished the fight, wielded the sword, finished the fight.
Love that.
Thank you so much.
Actually, I think you might have been the person that wrote me the email yesterday.
I can't remember if it was Carrie.
Obsessed with sports rights.
Egypt's tail numbers, S-U-B-N-D and S-U-B-T-T were at peace 2025.
What is that?
Mark, help me.
Mansplain.
After, and Hades, the tail number N1098L is so concerning since there are now Israeli defense companies that are making air-launched drones for recon and as loitering munitions.
Be well, Sister Crisis King.
So that second plane is the LaSai LLC one.
He's talking about N1098L.
He is saying is concerning because now that plane, which flew up to Montana and turned around, he is claiming, and I have not fact-checked this, is being used by Israeli defense companies.
unidentified
I didn't find anything on that plane being at that summit, but here's a screenshot of where that plane was at the moment Charlie was shot.
I know a lot of people said the plane was flying over at that exact moment, but it was actually in Idaho.
candace owens
Right.
20 minutes, about 20 minutes out, right?
It didn't get over Provo until 20 minutes after he was shot, right?
unidentified
Correct.
candace owens
That's what I said earlier.
Okay, great.
Perfect.
Thank you for man splaining.
Got to bring you back on.
unidentified
Always.
candace owens
Keyboard.
RN Explorer writes, Josh Hammer, looks like Count Dracula.
I am waiting for him to start counting his lies.
Okay.
If you call him Count Dracula, okay, they're going to start saying that we should be banned from X.
This is how they are.
They need censorship to protect their feelings.
You better be very careful, RN Explorer.
Keyboard Warrior writes, thank you, Candace and George, for opening my eyes to Catholicism.
For years, I was a lukewarm Christian and I was agnostic.
I became curious of George's story and I binged his interviews.
My eyes are now open.
I attend Mass and I pray the Rosary.
OCIA is next.
Congratulations.
I think it used to be called RCIA.
That is the program that you have to go through.
Now it's OCIA, I am hearing.
And yeah, I'm very excited to hear that.
And also even more excited to know that we contributed to that journey, especially George, who rarely does interviews, but I always can book him at the end of year.
You guys know that I can book George at least once a year and we're coming towards the end of the year.
So I'm going to shoot my shot.
Candace Jackson writes, just showing love and support for you, Candace.
God bless you and the work that you are doing.
You are an amazing friend, an incredible truth teller and a researcher.
And Brigitte is a man.
Careful or she'll sue you.
Not because you said she was a man, but because you said something else that she didn't like.
And the media will pretend that it's been debunked.
It's never debunked, guys.
These are psychological operations and the media is behind them.
The media is supporting these operations rather.
I think the military is behind these operations.
And I think the military, the cult of military, has wrapped its way around the world as best that I can see it through the books that I am reading.
And my eyes have been open to the fact that these people and these characters are not organic.
They are not smarter than you.
They are not working harder than you.
They are just more corrupt than you.
That's what I've learned.
Truly, they kind of put out these stats.
Oh, this is why we're so successful.
It's a higher IQ.
You know, it's such killing people.
You're taking over their companies.
You're hostile.
You're stealing tech.
You're mass murdering people and stealing their land.
That's why you're ahead.
You're more corrupt.
You're more evil.
And so, yeah, we need to be radical in our commitment to the truth because you can see how much the truth impacts them.
They're completely coming undone, particularly speaking about Zionists right there.
Zamit writes, Candace, a tipping point in the USA.
Yeah, for sure.
And by the way, regarding turning point, I can't think of a worse executive decision that could be made than to ban Tucker Carlson from future events.
Like literally, people are going to perceive that as ignoring Charlie's dying wish, dying fight, if you will.
The last, like I said, thing that we can read in his text messages.
So it's just completely absurd and crazy.
But look, it's going to be tough for Erica.
It's got to be tough for Erica in this moment because she's going to be feeling that pressure in the same way that Charlie was getting those, getting that pressure from these top donors, these top Jewish donors.
It's now being transferred.
When they're making noise publicly like this, when you see Seth Dylan and Josh Hammer out there, you better bet there's some financial consequence that is happening behind the scenes.
The if you don't do this, then that.
This is what they do: financial threats.
They love it.
Zionists love financial threats.
They love to force you out of the market and then to pretend that their success is organic.
It never is.
They're not interesting at all, actually.
If this was a fair world, they would be probably at the bottom of society if they weren't evil.
Jonathan Werner writes, Hey, Candace, I love you and I am inspired by you to spread the truth no matter what the consequence is.
Thank you.
These evil people are simply abysmal.
My Assault on Truth book is coming in next week after months of waiting.
Time for the world to wake up, stay safe.
That book is, whew, you will know what the Zionist movement is once you read that book.
It will, no way to unsee it once you see what their strategy is and why they have, they think they had perfected these psychological operations, gaslighting us when we all see Charlie get shot and then trying to eulogize him.
That book is potent.
So enjoy and learn about the author.
Learn about what he went through to tell the truth about the fact that Sigmund Freud was factually defending his pedophile friends.
And they brought that to the shores of America.
They brought modern psychology to the shores of America and into Hollywood.
And the good news is we're all waking up to it.
People are understanding that we are in a battle, a spiritual battle between goodness and evil.
And like I said, I always want to remind you that the frequency of truth carries more power than a lie.
And that's why they demand we shut up.
That's why they demand cancellation.
They demand that Tucker is not given a platform because he's telling the truth and it's resonating with people.
And he's giving people the courage, more people the courage to tell the truth, right?
They don't want Dave Smith's platform at Turning Point USA.
Josh Hammer was angry after he got destroyed by Dave Smith on Turning Point USA stage.
So he privately started the struggle session because he knew that when they were on stage, these students that were there were impacted and they wanted to follow Dave Smith.
People know truth when they hear it and they know lies when they see it.
And in Josh Hammer's case, the wet hair thing, I wouldn't do it, Josh is all I'm saying.
I'm not trying to be mean.
I just, I wouldn't do it.
I wouldn't do that look.
Anyways, you guys, thank you so much for all of your support.
And tomorrow is a Norman Finkelstein interview.
Enjoy that.
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