Candace Owens scrutinizes Josh Hammer’s retweet of Trump’s 2013 execution call—16 hours before Charlie Kirk’s assassination—despite his claims of a peaceful pre-death conversation. She debunks Zionist PR narratives, questions TPUSA’s security failures (like unchecked rooftops), and highlights threats against critics like herself, including "lay low" warnings post-Kirk’s death. Owens ties Hammer’s bigoted past tweets—like 2019’s claim that "Jew hatred is inherent in European DNA"—to broader suspicions about pro-Israel figures’ motives, though she stops short of direct accusations. The episode frames Kirk’s assassination as part of a pattern of silencing dissent, while Owens defends TPUSA’s legacy but warns against internal divisions, urging unity against perceived systemic corruption. [Automatically generated summary]
Now, I have tried, and I don't feel that there is any way that I can confidently explain to you guys why he tweeted that, least of all in the context of him having already admitted that he and a rabbi in Israel had a long talk with Charlie the night before he died, something he was very proud of.
And I'm also going to explain to you why, more formally, at least, why I decided to activate an effective kill switch.
And I want you guys to pay attention because this is really important.
Welcome back to Candace.
Hoisted by his own petard.
That's an expression, obviously, that we use a lot.
And I have this thing where I always have to go back and research and figure out why we use common expressions because nobody actually thinks about those things anymore.
It refers to when soldiers would use a fatard, essentially a bucket-shaped explosive device packed with gunpowder, effectively a bomb, to blow up the gates and wall fortifications of their enemies.
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They'd light the fuse, and sometimes they would be hoisted by their own bombs.
And that's exactly what is happening right now to Josh Hammer for weeks after the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Josh Hammer obsessively and shamelessly accused people of lying, people of grifting, people of attempting to destroy Charlie Kirk's legacy.
Charlie Kirk was his friend, he claimed rather maniacally.
Charlie never once flinched on the topic of Israel.
I can't believe there's something known as groperism.
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I was given access to this letter a few months ago and I read it at that time.
Tucker, Candace, and other bad faith actors are lying through their teeth about Charlie and Israel.
Candace Owens and other grifters, you get that back up for a quick second.
Candace Owens and other grifters are trying to posthumously rewrite and hijack the legacy of the great Charlie Kirk to further their patently evil ends.
Like, it's weird that he keeps repeating that sentence.
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Like I said, maniacal, obsessed.
And of course, in the comfort of his own derangement and with the full support of the press and the silence of Charlie's other quote-unquote friends, Josh was really acting the part of a true Pharisee.
He was certain that the truth would not rise again.
Seth Dylan was the more vocal of the two parties in the Hamptons, as I said, in terms of actually pressing Charlie, but both of them were upset about the way that they saw his viewpoints shifting.
And Tucker was therefore correct at Charlie Kirk's memorial.
It was definitely the correct analogy when he spoke about these sorts of individuals who plot and lie and think that they are going to be successful in, well, murdering the truth in the story of Jesus Christ.
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Take a listen.
Charlie would have loved this, not just because he loved large groups of people, but because ultimately he was a Christian evangelist.
And it actually reminds me of my favorite story ever.
So it's about 2,000 years ago in Jerusalem, and Jesus shows up and he starts talking about the people in power and he starts doing the worst thing that you can do, which is telling the truth about people.
And I can just sort of picture the scene in a lamplit room with a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus thinking about what do we do about this guy telling the truth about us.
Everything is sort of the opposite of what you think it's going to be.
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That is a fact.
It will always be the opposite of what we think it's going to be when you are attacking people who are telling the truth.
And the truth is that it is now an established fact, like I said, that Josh Hammer knew that Charlie Kirk's perspectives on Israel were changing.
And since that announcement, Twitter users pointed out a very strange tweet that Josh Hammer hit send on 16 hours before Charlie Kirk was assassinated for no apparent reason at all.
He retweeted something that President Donald Trump had sent a full 12 years ago about public executions.
Here it is.
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Here is that retweet Trump wrote on April 19th, 2013, should be public execution for all to see.
You will end this bull fast.
And Josh Hammer just replies and says, base, you can see.
This is, we are in Central Time, so that's about 9.05 p.m. Eastern time.
Now, what is the justification for this?
There might be one.
I tried in earnest to at first rationalize it, right?
What could have been going on that Josh Hammer decided to dig through the 2013 Twitter archives and retweet someone calling for someone calling for a public execution?
Well, I'll let one of the many Zionist PR agents explain it first.
Yashar Ali, who, like I said, is quite literally paid to do PR for Zionists.
I know this personally on the right and on the left, tried to explain it away by kind of lying, I would say.
He tried to claim definitively that Josh was referring to the criminal who horrifically murdered the Ukrainian refugee, Irina Zarutska, in North Carolina.
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That was obviously a big story in the beginning of September.
Yashar Ali wrote this.
Last night, Candace Owens quote tweeted notorious neo-Nazi Sam Parker, who pointed out that Josh Hammer, who is Jewish and was a friend of Charlie Kirk's, elevated a Trump tweet from 2013, the day before, which called for public executions.
Candace, of course, would like people to believe that Josh's quote tweet is suspicious in the context of the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
But Josh was just sharing what many conservatives were sharing and stating the day before, that's because they were talking about the horrific murder of Irina Zarutska.
This is where I say that no civilized nation uses the death penalty in parentheses, referring to his own thoughts.
Now, another user then jumped on that and tried to establish a non-fact that the footage of Irina's murder was released on that day on the 9th.
And that's why Josh tweeted that.
All of this is factually untrue.
Okay.
Irina was murdered on August 22nd.
Her perpetrator was arrested that same day.
And the footage was released and trended on X on September 5th.
Josh himself sent multiple tweets regarding the homicide, as everyone did, because, like I said, it was trending.
And when he was asked specifically about punishment, criminality, perhaps that her perpetrator should face, Josh, at no point that I could determine, whether he was on the news, whether he was on his own show or anywhere else, did he speak about the death penalty or, you know, a public execution.
Instead, as you will see, and we will show you Josh in his own words, he spoke about the double standards surrounding the media coverage of her murder and really the topic of criminality more broadly and safety in America.
This is kind of the beginning of kind of the left's kind of foray into so-called criminal justice reform.
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And even back then, there's a lot of chatter among my more liberal classmates about how, you know, incarceration and prisons and locking people up, you know, how all of it is just racist.
It's kind of like it is an old kind of symbol of a white patriarchal colonialist imperialist society there and how the ultimate goal is basically to defund the prisons.
And then, you know, if some people are going to commit some violent crimes, you know, essentially let the chips fall where they may.
Right after that, he tweets a link, the one that I just showed you, to his media appearance about Arena Zarutska, where he does not call for the death penalty or anything close to the death penalty.
9.23 a.m., he tweets against Tucker Carlson because he has to do that at least twice a day, or I don't feel like he can get on with his day.
9.29 a.m., he tweets in favor of Israel and throws shade at Trump and Qatar.
And all of this is related to what went on on September 9th, which is that Israel bombed Qatar for no reason, violating international law, which they tend to do a lot.
But he, of course, was in favor of what they were doing.
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And so he throws shade at Trump and Trump's relationship with Qatar because I guess it would be okay for them to violate international law if Trump wasn't friends with Qatar or something.
11.33 a.m., he tweets against Saudi Arabia because they came out and made a statement against what Israel had done.
So he tweets against Saudi Arabia.
And then at 3 o'clock p.m., he tweets against Tucker Carlson for telling the truth about Israel in 9-11.
Again, he has to do that a couple of times a day.
It's part of his ritual.
5.58 p.m., he tweets about the Hebrew Bible being the basis of Western civilization alongside a speech that he had given, tweets a link out.
Again, promoting himself, 5.59 p.m., he tweets a promotion of his media appearance regarding a Supreme Court decision.
And then there's this three-hour break.
He puts his phone down.
Maybe, maybe, maybe this is the three-hour break where he speaks to Charlie Kirk.
I don't know, but I know that he speaks to Charlie Kirk at night.
And then at 9.09 p.m., again, we're talking Eastern.
Usually reserved to a visceral response to something that you have seen and in the moment, right?
Matt Walsh, actually, when we were prepping the show, I said, I will guarantee you that when that footage got dropped, which was on September 5th, four days earlier, Matt Walsh would have tweeted, this person should be publicly executed.
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And by the way, he did.
He did.
He said, we can't keep living like this.
The only solution is ruthless punishment, public execution for violent criminals, long prison sentences, hard labor.
He should have already been serving 30 years in the labor camp.
This is the only way, as our ancestors knew, we've tried compassion and restorative justice, and this is the result.
It was inevitable.
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So Matt Walsh then went on his show and further explained that already contextualized tweet.
And he explained how men have a visceral response when you see somebody being victimized, a woman being victimized in that way, that arena was.
So we decided for good measure that we should check to see if maybe it was something regular that Josh Hammer also spoke about, which is public executions.
And I can tell you that it is not something that Josh Hammer regularly tweets about or discusses.
The first time that he tweeted about a public execution was back in 2013.
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And he said it in reference, I'm sorry, in 2022.
And he said it in reference to the Boston Marathon bombing terrorist account.
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I'm sorry, the Evalde shooter.
The Evalde shooter is apparently dead, but just as with the Buffalo shooter, this level of pure evil would have been another ideal time for a public execution.
He is in the moment and he is saying, I'm having a visceral reaction to the idea of another school being shut out, being having another school shooting.
You're seeing and you're learning those things in the moment.
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As I said, that would make sense in its context.
I also want to remind you that Josh Hammer is a lawyer by training.
He was at one point the editor at large of the Daily Wire, and he is currently the senior editor-at-large at Newsweeks.
Plus, he hosts his own show.
My point that I'm making here is he knows how to communicate.
Okay.
This is not some random guy on Twitter who doesn't know that if you haven't tweeted all day about something, you can't just throw out tweets about public executions without contextualize them, right?
He certainly understands you don't just send out a standalone tweet at 9 o'clock p.m. and everyone's just going to go, what are you referring to?
He knows the public is not going to comprehend what he means outside of him providing some further context.
And I will also add here that it is not particularly helpful that Josh Hammer as an individual is obsessively angry.
And people are maybe perhaps because of that, because of how he regularly treats people and how he regularly attacks people and how vicious he is, are not feeling particularly charitable towards him, especially having been exposed as somebody who lied so audaciously and boldly and repeatedly and unnecessarily about the pressure that Charlie was under, pressure, which Josh Hammer was a part of applying in the weeks and then in the hours leading up to Charlie Kirk's death.
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Saddens me that Charlie was stressed and Charlie was worried, and that the very people that were stressing him out and making him have that sense of anxiety and worry, then you eulogized him and lied about all that.
That's the part that the public does not understand.
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How can we then trust a person that lies in that way?
The natural thing is for us to then wonder: what else is Josh lying about?
Would we trust if Josh came out and said that tweet was definitely about arena?
Other people pulled Trump tweets.
Some did pulled that very tweet and called for a public execution.
Would you trust Josh if he came out and said, I know I didn't contextualize it.
And I know all day I was tweeting about Israel, but that one was about Arena.
Don't forget, he proudly went around and he promoted to everyone that would listen that he spoke to Charlie the night before he died, probably in that three-hour window.
He bragged that he and Rabbi Walicki had a Zoom call with Charlie.
Why?
Because they said Charlie wanted them to help him with his talking points about Israel.
A few days after Charlie's death, he went on JTV, which is on the global Jewish channel, to discuss that call, that last call with Charlie further with a host named Ollie.
And here is what Josh says about his book.
We actually did speak for the last time less than 24 hours before the assassination happened.
We had a Zoom call, a friend of mine, him, a couple of his producers.
It was a small call.
We were literally talking above all about the anti-Israel questions that he expected to receive on this campus tour.
And we were kind of talking him through talking points and strategy and how to deal with these expected hostile questions.
And, you know, you held on my book, Israel and Civilization, Ollie.
The last words I think Charlie spoke to me were he literally said, You know, Josh, you know, when the Israel question comes up, I'm just gonna plug your book, you know, Israel and Civilization, because I think that what you read in the book basically is how I feel as well.
And that ends up being the last time that we spoke.
Well, you heard him.
It's like Charlie's final wish is for you to buy Josh Hammer's book.
I mean, he's like, Hey, he literally says his last thing he said to me actually was like, I'm just gonna plug your book.
What he wanted to do on this tour was just to plug Josh Hammer's book.
And it's so sad that he never had the opportunity to plug Josh Hammer's book.
Now, let's keep with this interview because he's going to be asked more specifically about certain characters in the movement that are trying to quote unquote hijack Charlie's legacy by telling the truth.
And remarkably, he is going to work.
I swear he's going to work in his book again.
Take a listen.
If we'll excuse you, as you mentioned, there have been people who like Ian Carroll, and it pains me to mention her name, Candace Owens, because I know how close she was and maybe still is to Charlie.
But at the end of the day, she's chosen to hijack his death right now to blame it on Israel.
I mean, it's just so disturbing.
But then you have the people who are sort of a bit more in the middle.
Maybe I wouldn't even say in the middle, but they're teetering a bit.
The Megan Kelly's and the Michael Knowles and others, kind of in this in-between.
What do you think is going on there with them?
Yeah, look, I mean, we can talk about every commentator one by one, but I think it's kind of easier to make a few kind of generalizations, right?
I think a lot of folks are kind of just trying to take their commentary to where they see the perceived momentum, especially among the younger generation there.
But so I think a lot of it is trying to kind of, you know, stick your finger in the wind and try to see, you know, where Gen Z is.
And also, really, I mean, above all, see kind of just where the Twitter algorithms are right now.
I mean, it's very hard to look at someone like, let's take Matt Gaetz, okay?
Matt Gaetz was a former Republican congressman from Florida.
It's trying to kind of just play for clicks, play for money, and trying to kind of generate some viral clips to appease a small but very vocal and very online segment of the American right and of the American internet user base there.
I just love that he doesn't even blink as he goes from promoting his book again to then accusing people of wanting money.
It's just incredible as he's completely grifting off of Charlie's death by trying to promote his book as like Charlie's last wish.
It's really amazing.
Also, why does Michael Knowles randomly catch astray?
Like, what's Michael Knowles been up to that he's like now on their list?
Michael Knowles, Megan Kelly, they're listing them.
That's coming next.
Okay.
Inevitably, it comes inward.
I just want to be clear in case what he's saying is not registering to you correctly.
So, white men, to the extent that you are willing to get out there and work to serve really his book, to sell his book, to serve his interests, which are very clearly Israel, you're cool.
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You know, no one's going to call you into semi.
Everything can be cool.
To the extent that you, I don't know, maybe don't want to do that, you will be ruined.
It was great when he was out there pitching Josh Hammer's book, and now he can't be saved.
But then, this is where it gets important.
Josh Hammer gets even more specific, addressing the question if Charlie was beginning to crack on his support for Israel.
Let's not forget, we already know the answer to this is yes.
So, looking at this hindsight 2020 really is something.
Take a listen.
If he is what, or if he was going in a direction that Candace Owens and others say he was going in, you know, very, very simple points.
Would he have had on me and our friend Rabbi Pesach Walicki literally the night before his death to spend an entire hour talking about how to respond to anti-Israel talking points?
Again, he was trying to navigate kind of some very choppy water stuff.
Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
It really doesn't make sense.
Charlie was just on the phone looking for talking points, trying to navigate some choppy waters with how he was going to address these kids that had some questions about Israel.
He didn't, he was unflinching, but he gratefully had Josh Hammer's book and wanted to go through it and make sure that he remembered everything.
Now, this is probably also a great time referring to that little conference call they had, whatever it was, a Zoom call, to tell you that that rabbi, Rabbi Walicki, was also on the now infamous text chain.
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So, this means that both of those individuals knew exactly where Charlie was at on the topic of Israel and how he felt leading up to that moment of his death.
And again, like I said, two weeks before that in the Hamptons, they knew where he was at.
Tucker Carlson told you the truth on his stance on Bibi Net and Yahoo.
Nobody wants to address or answer the question of whether or not when Bibi Net and Yahoo invited him to Israel, what the context was of that.
Do you think that guy who's fighting a 140,000 front war because he keeps picking fights and pretending he's a victim, really just has time to pick up the phone and shoot the breeze with Charlie Kirk, whose number, according to the released letter, he didn't even have in May.
So what's he calling him about?
They obviously weren't close if he didn't have his number.
Okay.
So what's he calling Charlie about?
Why is he inviting Charlie to Israel two weeks before he dies, right?
He was just busy and couldn't make it out to Israel or something.
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Now, I will say that regarding Rabbi Walicki, I think he has more of a conscience and soul than Josh Hammer.
I haven't seen him promoting his book.
He doesn't lie as audaciously and as repeatedly and tweets nearly as neurotically as Josh Hammer does.
But I want you to listen to what he had to say when asked whether or not Charlie was turning on Israel.
Give us our hindsight 2020, Rabbi Walicki.
The wild conspiracy theories online on social media claiming that Israel and the Mossad are behind the assassination of Charlie Kirk because he was turning on Israel.
Now, you spoke to him just hours before his death.
Did you feel that that was the case, that he was in fact turning on Israel?
Nidar, I was in touch with Charlie on an almost daily basis for months.
And he certainly had some disagreements with Israeli policy.
And he criticized Israel where he felt appropriate.
He sometimes believed things like a lot of people do that are out there in the media.
And that was really the substance of our relationship was checking on things and finding out the truth.
But that doesn't mean that he was immune to the negative sentiments that were out there.
And there were a lot of people around him in the America First Movement who were actively working on him to try to get him to turn on Israel.
But the real answer to your question is the meeting that I had with him.
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And the entire purpose of the meeting, called by Charlie, Charlie called this meeting and it was on our schedule for weeks, was that he was going out on a campus tour.
And what a lot of people in Israel do not realize, or in the pro-Israel community, do not realize, is that between 40 and 50% of all of the questions and challenges that he would get on these campus tours were usually about Israel.
Because the campuses, of course, have a lot of anti-Israel sentiment, and Charlie was known as a supporter of Israel.
So he ended up being in a position where he was defending Israel all the time.
And it drove him crazy because he wanted to talk about America, but he was defending Israel all the time.
So in preparation for this new campus tour, he called a meeting of a few people that he trusted to talk about Israel issues and to anticipate the questions that he would be getting, the challenges that he would be getting on this campus tour, and to make sure that he had the truth and that he could formulate answers that he was comfortable with.
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If Charlie had turned on Israel, why would he even bother with a meeting like that?
Why would he call a meeting with a few pro-Israel friends of his to talk through Israel issues to make sure that his facts were straight and his talking points were straight so that he could defend Israel better?
If he was turning on Israel, he would have had Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson in the meeting planning to throw Israel under the bus.
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The entire premise of the meeting refutes that theory.
How are you feeling about that?
Now that you know that Charlie actually mentioned both Tucker and Candace 48 hours earlier as they were trying to do what they always do, which is control who he's allowed to speak to, control who I was allowed to speak to back when I was within the Zionist movement and waking up and realizing something was dangerously wrong when they started to try to control my voice.
It's unbelievable.
It's really unbelievable to reflect on that.
Now, I will say again, Rabbi Walicki, more of a soul.
He's at least acknowledging that something was going on, right?
I don't think he would have been comfortable pulling the jaw.
That's kind of the vibes that they were trying to put out there.
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At least Rabbi Walicki is like, he was under some pressure.
Okay.
He's saying it softly, but he's like, he was kind of needing to have a conversation to say he's not comfortable answering these questions anymore because it doesn't feel this way anymore.
He realizes something is wrong.
I told you he was particularly worried that Israel was infringing upon speech in America.
He was aware that they had lost the PR war and it was weighing on him that he was seen, as Rabbi Walicki accurately states, as this person who just defends Israel, especially when what they are doing is so plainly immoral.
It was starting to fracture people's viewpoints of Charlie, right?
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And Charlie, like I said, when he got into this, like when I got into this, we were genuinely pro-Israel.
And yet they want us to believe that less than 48 hours before he died, Charlie announces that.
He announces that he has no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel cause because of Jewish donors and their behavior, living up to these stereotypes.
And despite this frustration, 48 hours earlier, the following day, he decided to have that smaller audience with two Jewish individuals who were on that chat and were aware that he was angry.
But this conversation was not going to be a follow-up or in relation to what he had just expressed hours earlier to them both, but rather he was just like a super fan of Josh's book.
And also, I'd like to strategize on how to deal with the questions that are coming at me using and promoting your book.
That's what Josh wants us to believe, at least, right?
And then we're supposed to believe that he had that dramatic switch.
So he went from, I'm done, to like, hey, love you.
How can I be of more service to you?
And then in that exact same day, he was texting people saying they are going to kill me.
On the same day that he's on this Zoom call, this is a fact, this night Zoom call, as Josh says it was that night, or the New York Post reported, I think, right?
That it was at night.
That at the same time, that same day, he's texting people saying they are going to kill me.
And we are supposed to deduce from this that by they, what he really meant was Tyler Robinson.
He meant they, them, duh, like a non-binary person or a trans person.
I was speaking to somebody earlier about how interesting it is that none of us, and I'm not saying none of us, I'm talking about Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, myself.
When we were speaking honestly and accurately about what Charlie was going through and how he was being bullied and how he was under pressure, and Megan even spoke about it herself, by the way, Megan, you should probably tell people who those individuals are.
We never once said that Israel killed Charlie Kirk.
That has been almost the only compelling argument that Israel had anything to do with it is the way they're acting right now.
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Like Bibi Net and Yahoo, the propaganda, the lies, the coming after Canis Owens.
None of this was necessary.
Nobody thought when this first happened, this is 100% Israel.
100%.
This happened in Mormon country.
How come there were no Mormon people, no Mormon presidents coming out and saying, I just want to be clear that we didn't kill Charlie Kirk 24 hours after he died?
Because that's what Bibi did.
How come there were no Mormon people that started Operation Mormon pastor or president feeling the need to baselessly attack me?
I was actually on the Mormons.
I've been on the show calling them out by name, saying who was doing what?
But Mormons were not offended by that at all because they want to know if somebody is corrupt and had something to do with this.
They want to know if their church was involved in this.
Not to say, it definitely wasn't us, but rather to say, I'm on this journey.
I want to know who killed Charlie Kirk too.
And I'm therefore going to support Candace's efforts to find out.
Exact opposite of what Israel is doing, right?
That is the one disturbing fact.
about people that support Israel.
Their behavior, to put it in a way that Charlie put it.
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I'm looking for footage on UVU campus, some particular footage from people that were there that day.
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And I want to be real specific here so we don't clog up the inbox because obviously when you send footage to bigger file, I'm looking for video footage of any older males, okay, any older males that day that have long hair that was up in a ponytail or a bun.
So if you're a UVU student or you know someone who was a UVU student, please send this around and ask people to send me their footage.
I just want to see footage of men that have their long hair, enough hair, that it's up in a ponytail or a bun.
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There is, of course, a specific reason why I'm asking for that.
Also, they're in me scouring the earth for every piece of footage.
There's an almost incomprehensible lack of footage that is coming from the left side of Charlie, meaning if Charlie is facing the crowd, it would be his left side.
So we have gone ahead and highlighted for you where I am looking for footage from.
Okay.
I can't find footage from this section.
Chris, if you could go back to that first one again, too.
This section right here, if you were sitting here or go to the next one, all on the side, when the shots rang out or just before, you know, maybe in the 10 minutes before, so I can see who was around or what happened when those shots rang out.
You know, somebody I was speaking to earlier today was speaking about, you know, the anxiety that Turning Point is going through.
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I do want to say this first and foremost because I felt this way at previous companies.
They are amazing people that work at Turning Point USA, the overwhelming majority of them.
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And that's what sucks when corporate or people at the top take a direction.
Those people get no say, right?
This investigation is being assisted by Turning Point USA.
Not the execs, but Turning Point people on the ground, people that they don't even think about, smaller employees, like they deeply care about what has happened.
He sent out a tweet to convince people that they shouldn't watch me.
He said, I can't comment on Candace because it's quite obviously a freak show.
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It's like driving on the highway and seeing a farmer having sex with a sheep.
You don't want to look, but you can't look away either.
The problems begin when you try to analyze it.
It is what it is.
And I love that Ishar Ali replies and says, this is what I mean.
These are the people who are supposed to be combating Candace Owens.
Instead, they tweet stuff like this.
Yeah, hi, Dinesh.
Kind of weird, man.
We cannot relate.
I got to tell you, if I ever was in this awful scenario where I saw a farmer trying to have sex with a sheep, I feel very much that I could not only look away, but I could call the police.
Okay.
So if that's kind of what you're selling, you know how like when you can't look away from bestiality, Dinesh, you want to know your opinion on me, not what's on your laptop and how they maybe blackmailed you, okay?
That's not what we're interested in, Dinesh D'Souza.
And he's like, well, I meant that as a joke.
You didn't mean it as a joke.
You went seriously and it was weird.
It got weird very quickly.
And we learned more about you than we learned about me.
Now, because they are seriously increasing and being, I would almost say erratic in their behavior, obsessive, erratic, neurotic, there is a real risk here, right?
I do not accept, and do you guys, that Charlie Kirk lost his life because he really pissed off the trans lobby.
It terrifies me to think that on the day that Charlie died, I got multiple phone calls from people who said that me and Tucker should lay low because we're also on the list.
And they never told us who specifically told them that, by the way.
Now I'm wondering.
why they never told us who specifically told them that.
I called Tucker.
I'm like, I'm hearing, are you hearing me say something?
I'm hearing they're saying that we're next.
And now I go, was that supposed to be a threat to me and Tucker?
To have us watch the public execution of a friend of ours and then to call us and to say, you should lay low for a little bit because you guys were hearing that you guys are on a list.
Was that supposed to be a threat?
Because why wouldn't you be more forthcoming with exactly who you heard that from?
And I said, I remember saying, I was like, did the feds say this?
Who said this specifically?
Because why aren't they calling me and Tucker?
Why am I calling Tucker and telling him about this?
And I did.
He will tell you that.
The day that Charlie Kirk was shot, this really happened.
And I'm coming out of the grief stage and realizing I think that was an element of this.
To send a signal, to shoot him in the throat, right?
To say, we took out his voice and we will take yours out too.
And that's terrifying and that's real.
These people that we are fighting are dangerous, okay?
Do not underestimate them.
They are dangerous and they are haughty and they are growing increasingly desperate and panicked people that are evil in this way are not people that you want to, that you want to play with, right?
And that's why I decided that I don't know what's going to happen.
Okay.
I don't know how many days I have on this planet.
I do know what I'm fighting for.
And I do know that this life is not it.
It's not.
I'm telling you guys, it's not.
The people that want you to believe that it is, people that pulled you away from your faith in the first place, as I'm trying to demonstrate to you, did it because they knew they could further enslave you.
They want you to be fearful of death.
They want you to think it's it.
They want you to think it's lights out and that everything is over and that you are not a soul, right?
Because then they can get you to do things to guard what you have in this world.
Follow their rules to do things that you know are wrong because you need the money.
It indoctrinates you into their matrix.
What I wanted to do, as I discussed yesterday and which got picked up, was to create a kill switch, right?
To realize that Kanye was kind of right.
Never would you like to say that Kanye was right.
Kanye said that in order to be free, you had to violate these contracts.
But I have no doubt that the same people that were torturing Kanye, the same people that were torturing Charlie Kirk, Kanye died today, would be the first to eulogize him.
I feel that.
I do.
I feel that.
And I think it's important to share that information as Kanye sent me all the messages of people who were threatening him.
To information share with Max Blumenthal, with people, village, I mean, people all over the place to send a package and say, if anything happens to me and it looks suspicious, release it all.
You know, it's not even about having an opposite and equal reaction.
I want it to be a mistake because people, it catalyzes people waking up and learning exactly how this matrix works.
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And Alex Jones brought this up on his show, my Kill Switch.
Here's what he had to say.
What did she lay the traps for him?
She comes out and says, Yeah, Charlie was calling me, wanting me out of his events again and all the rest of it.
And he was also really concerned about the Israel lobby coming after him.
And they said, You're a liar.
Charlie didn't like you.
Charlie didn't like you.
Charlie didn't call you.
He didn't text you.
And so she let him say that for a few weeks and then released it.
The text.
And then she said, Yeah, he was really upset with the Israel lobby and said he was breaking with them entirely.
He wouldn't be bullied by them.
And the weeks before he was killed, they said, You're a liar.
That's not true.
So she released those two days ago.
Now she says she has the proof, and it's text messages that he feared for his life in the two days and the day before he was killed.
And predictably, they're already saying it.
She's a liar.
And she's going to release those.
And she's also sent out the dead man switch, just like James O'Keefe did to myself and a few others right before he released the stuff on Prince Andrew, which is dangerous, by the way, proving that he indeed indeed raped the girls and cover it up.
People are like, we already know that.
How's that daring?
Oh, you're going to release the total proof on the King of England's brother?
Yeah, that's dangerous.
So those of you saying O'Keefe doesn't risk his life and all the stuff he's been through and been arrested and indicted and raided, try putting on issues for a while before you sit around and say that he didn't do anything.
Man's a champion.
But the point is, is that this is a real dead man switch.
She has sent out it to the Tate brothers, Dave Smith, Max Blumenthal, Turk Carlson, and others.
I'm not going to just say something because people think it.
But when she releases this, and she's got it, make no mistake, just like she keeps bringing the goods, and she just sets the hook with the worm on it or puts the mousetrap out with the cheese on it.
And they come out and say, you're a liar.
And she goes, boom, you're a liar.
Boom.
You're a liar.
Boom.
You're a liar.
Boom.
Bam.
So, and she'll let him, you know, for a week or so kind of stew and say she's a liar, and then she'll just release it.
And then what she's saying is, you kill me, it doesn't matter, it's coming out.
And the word is he specifically thought Israel was going to kill him.
Even Michael Savage, first a few months ago, said, Netanyahu needs to go on my show during the break.
He goes, man, I hope Massad doesn't kill me.
Cruise saw it.
He was on the feed.
He didn't say it was off record.
It was during the break.
So there are a lot of groups that want Charlie killed.
He was defeating the Democrats with TPUSA, got over two and a half million people to vote conservatively for Trump, was moving the needle big time, more than anybody with young people on colleges.
So I see them as the modem.
And they said, we want Charlie dead.
They said, you know, they celebrated when he was dead.
You had like six Trantifa.
Say, Charlie will be dead tomorrow.
Then they said, see, we told you.
And that was in the town.
So, you know, we got Trantifa, the tranny Antifa, running around, engaged in all sorts of violence everywhere.
So I was like, okay, yeah, I mean, that bitch.
So you get the picture.
I mean, I think, and he goes on to explain how we all feel, which is like genuinely, we had no proof and no rhyme or reason to think or suspect Israel whatsoever.
And it's really just been this insane behavior of covering up and lying that makes us question things.
Like that's the reality.
And by the way, questioning things doesn't mean that we have any proof that that happened, which is why we've been actually reticent to say that.
And then it just got to a place where I said, no, this feels like something else.
I don't know why they're telling little lies.
And little lies only exist to cover up bigger lies.
Anyways, you guys, all of that, I also do want to add here, show you a clip before we get into some of your comments that it's also very good to not extend to everyone that is Jewish the viewpoints of this very radical sect that has a lot of power in America.
People like Josh Hammer don't get fired when they explicitly express that, you know, they hate white people, whatever.
That's like, okay, on your resume.
That's not the people, you know this, that you went to school with.
Like I grew up around the Dave Smiths of the world, right?
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And I always say I'm grateful that I did because when you engage into politics, what you see is so ugly that you just go, oh my gosh, like coming into stereotypes.
And it's good to remind yourself that politics is serious all the time, but most of the people do not behave like psychopaths and they're very funny and can make fun of themselves.
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All right, guys, what do you guys think?
Are you giving Josh Hammer a charitable read?
Do you think that he was inspired?
Because there were people that were bringing up that old tweet.
They always say there's a Trump tweet for everything.
And then people will pass it around for certain situations.
Do you think that that was what he was doing in the context of what was going on that day, which was really the focus of his tweets, seemed to be talking about Israel as always and going after Qatar and Tucker Carlson, as always?
Corey, I will tell you, Charlie owned the security company.
So that security company, you see, that's around him.
He owned it.
He actually outright purchased a security company and it didn't matter.
And they didn't do anything.
It clearly was an act of vanity.
They should never be allowed to work again because why would you not have, I mean, he's a sitting duck from the amount that he was paying for that security for them to not check rooftops.
You could have someone actually requiring that you have access to rooftops.
Kelly Gibbs writes, my Catholic bestie and I keep you in our prayers.
Thank you, Kelly, for this gift.
Rosary and Divine Mercy, I pray that our Lord and Lady protect you and your family, give you wisdom and safeguard the pearl of great price, the faith passed down from the apostles.
Make sure you have all the facts because you are an important voice.
Any youth movement must be based in truth.
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And like I said, Turning Point USA has fantastic people that worked and signed up to work for that company and dedicated their time with that company, whether even volunteers, people on college campuses, because they believed in truth and they knew they were getting it from Charlie.
Right now, we are at a point.
And I think John and Irina Mappin in that beautiful letter they wrote yesterday said it way more eloquently than I ever could, which is if you actually continue the legacy of Charlie, it means continuing to fight for truth.
And to the extent that they do that, fantastic.
They will have an ally in me.
I never attacked Turning Point USA because I came from Turning Point USA.
And I saw what it took to build that company because I was a part of building that company.
But to the extent that we feel that they've become so corporate that they're not answering our questions or making us feel ashamed for asking these questions or feeling like they don't care about getting to truth, I think it was very sloppy what Tyler Boyer did on X.
But I also am more interested in where all of these ideologies are coming from.
I'm more interested in the war against family.
I'm more interested in waking everybody up by actually being more charitable in our interpretations of one another and what motivates us and less charitable to the government, right?
But during that course of that Constantine kissing, when he was like, you need to make a statement against Candace and Tucker, somebody else was saying to her, Candice doesn't even hate the left anymore.
Like that was supposed to be a convincing argument for Megan to trash me, like really trying to get us exist in that left-right paradigm, and it only serves them at the top.
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So I hope more of this, more realizing and more coming together on the stuff that we can agree on.
You guys, I have some bad news here at the very end.
I am going to take next week off.
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I'm going to take about 10 days off, actually.
I'll give you more details about that tomorrow.
But, you know, I just feel like I need to, I'm arriving at the acceptance phase.
I will say the stages of grief is very real.
And I just kind of want to take a little bit of time to really just kind of mourn Charlie in my own personal capacity and just kind of recognize I'm never going to see him again, never going to talk to him again, and to say kind of bye in my own way and take a break and a breather.