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Charlie's Final Hours. What Else Is Josh Hammer Lying About? | Candace Ep 250

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candace owens ▲ ● ▼		All right, you guys, happy Wednesday.
		Sorry, we're running late today.
		I'm starting homeschooling, so still getting adjusted to the new schedule.
		Where should we begin?
		Okay, well, Josh Hammer, because that's certainly getting a little more interesting, maybe a bit darker than we had anticipated, because just sixteen hours before Charlie Kirk was assassinated, he mysteriously retweeted a 2013 tweet from Donald Trump calling for public executions.
		Now, I have tried, and I don't feel that there is any way that I can confident confidently explain to you guys why he tweeted that, least of all in the context of him having already admitted that he and uh a rabbi in Israel had a long talk with Charlie the night before he died, something he was very proud of.
		Also, Dinesh D'Souza has jumped into the mix.
		Welcome to Nesh D'Souza.
		He is uh joining every commentator who hates Candace Owens.
		Uh that's nice that he has entered the foray, he's got some things to say to me.
		We're gonna discuss it because it's weird.
		And I'm also going to explain to you why, more formally, at least why I decided to activate an effective kill switch.
		And I want you guys to pay attention because this is really important.
		Welcome back to Candace.
unidentified		Candace.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Hoisted by his own petard.
		That's an expression, obviously, that we use a lot, and I have this thing where I always have to go back and research and figure out why we use common expressions, 'cause nobody actually thinks about those things anymore.
		Well, this one is pretty obvious.
		It refers to when soldiers uh would use a petard, essentially a bucket-shaped explosive device packed with gunpowder, effectively a bomb, to blow up the gates and wall fortifications of their enemies.
		They light the fuse, and sometimes they would be hoisted by their own bombs.
		And that's exactly what is happening right now to Josh Hammer for weeks after the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
		Josh Hammer obsessively and shamelessly accused people of lying.
		People of grifting, people of attempting to destroy Charlie Kirk's legacy.
		Charlie Kirk was his friend, he claimed rather maniacally.
		Uh Charlie never once flinched on the topic of Israel.
		He died just loving Israel.
		That's all he cared about.
		Check out just some of these tweets, by the way.
		This is a collage.
		We just don't have all day here to gather crazy Josh Hammer tweets, but you get the idea.
		There is a repulsive op right now to hijack Charlie Kirk's legacy.
		Uh There is a repulsive op right now, desecrating Charlie's memory by trying to posthumously convert him to groperism.
		Can't believe there's something known as grouperism.
		I was given access to this letter a few months ago when I read it at that time.
		Tucker, Candace, and other bad faith actors are lying through their teeth about Charlie and Israel.
		Candace Owens and other grifters, you get that back up for a quick second.
		Candice Owens and other grifters are trying to posthumously rewrite and hijack the legacy of the great Charlie Kirk to further their patently evil ends.
		There has been a repulsive op, op, op.
		The reality is simple.
		Charlie was a bridge.
		Like it's weird that he keeps repeating that sentence.
		Like I said, maniacal, obsessed.
		And of course, in the comfort of his own derangement and with the full support of the press and the silence of Charlie's other quote unquote friends, Josh was really acting the part of a true Pharisee.
		He was certain that the truth would not rise again.
		He was so confident that he had killed it and that he could himself hijack the legacy of Charlie Kirk.
		Except the truth did kind of rise again.
		It kind of always does rise again, and the world now knows that Josh Hammer had personal intimate knowledge that Charlie's views were changing.
		He lied about the Hamptons meeting.
		I've told you the truth from day one.
		Seth Dylan and Josh were personally upset with Charlie's defiance against the state of Israel.
		Seth Dylan was the more vocal of the two parties in the Hamptons, as I said, in terms of actually pressing Charlie, but both of them were upset about the way that they saw his viewpoints shifting.
		And Tucker was therefore correct at Charlie Kirk's memorial.
		It was definitely the correct analogy when he spoke about these sorts of individuals who plot and lie and think that they are going to be successful in, well, murdering the truth in the story of Jesus Christ.
		Take a listen.
tucker carlson ▲ ● ▼		Charlie would have loved this, not just because he loved large groups of people, but because ultimately he was a Christian evangelist.
		And it actually reminds me of my favorite story ever.
		So it's about 2,000 years ago in Jerusalem, and Jesus shows up and he starts talking about the people in power.
		And he starts doing the worst thing that you can do, which is telling the truth about people.
		And they hate it.
		And they just go bonkers.
		They hate it.
		And they become obsessed with making him stop.
		This guy's got to stop talking.
		We've got to shut this guy up.
		And I can just sort of picture the scene in a lamp-lit room with a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus, thinking about what do we do about this guy telling the truth about us.
unidentified		We must make him stop talking.
tucker carlson ▲ ● ▼		And there's always one guy with the bright idea, and I could just hear him say, I've got an idea.
		Why don't we just kill him?
		That'll shut him up.
		That'll fix the problem.
		LAUGHTER It doesn't work that way.
		It doesn't work that way.
		Everything is inverted, and the Beatitudes tell it, I think the most crisply.
		Everything is sort of the opposite of what you think it's going to be.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		That is a fact.
		And it will always be the opposite of what he we think it's going to be when you are attacking people who are telling the truth.
		And the truth is that is now an established fact.
		Like I said, that Josh Hammer knew that Charlie Kirk's perspectives on Israel were changing.
		And since that announcement, Twitter users pointed out a very strange tweet that Josh Hammer hit send on 16 hours before Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
		For no apparent reason at all.
		He retweeted something that President Donald Trump had sent a full 12 years ago about public executions.
		Here it is.
		Here is that retweet.
		Trump wrote on April 19th, 2013, should be public execution for all to see.
		You will end this bull fast.
		And Josh Hammer just replies and says, based, you can see.
		This is, we are in Central Time, so that's about 9.05 p.m.
		Eastern Time.
		Now, what is the justification for this?
		There might be one.
		I tried in earnest to at first rationalize it, right?
		What could have been going on that Josh Hammer decided to dig through The 2013 Twitter archives and retweet someone calling for someone calling for a public execution.
		Well, I'll let one of the many Zionist PR agents explain it first.
		Shishar Ali, who, like I said, is quite literally paid to do PR for Zionists.
		I know this personally on the right and on the left, tried to explain it away by kind of lying, I would say.
		He tried to claim definitively that Josh was referring to the criminal who horrifically murdered the Ukrainian refugee, Irina Zarutska in North Carolina.
		That was obviously a big story in the beginning of September.
		Yeshar Ali wrote this.
		Last night, Candace Owens, quote, tweeted notorious neo-Nazi Sam Parker, who pointed out that Josh Hammer, who is Jewish and was a friend of Charlie Kirk's, elevated a Trump tweet from 2013 the day before, which called for public executions.
		Candace, of course, would like people to believe that Josh's quote tweet is suspicious in the context of the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
		But Josh was just sharing what many conservatives were sharing and stating the day before.
		That's because they were talking about the horrific murder of Arena Zarutska.
		This is where I say that no civilized nation uses the death penalty in parentheses, referring to his own thoughts.
		Now, uh another user then jumped on that and tried to establish a non-fact that the footage of Arena's murder was released on that day on the 9th, and that's why Josh tweeted that.
		All of this is factually untrue.
		Okay.
		Arena was murdered on August 22nd.
		Her perpetrator was arrested that same day.
		And the footage was released and trended on X on September 5th.
		Josh himself sent multiple tweets regarding the homicide, as everyone did, because like I said, it was trending.
		Uh and when he was asked specifically about punishment, criminality, perhaps that her perpetrator should face.
		At no point that I could determine, whether he was on the news, whether he was on his own show or anywhere else, did he speak about the death penalty or you know, a public execution?
		Instead, as you will see, and we will show you Josh in his own words, he spoke about the double standards surrounding the media coverage of her murder and really the topic of criminality more broadly and safety in America.
		Take a listen to what Josh said.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		You know, Gabrielle, I'm I'm I'm a lawyer by training.
		And I remember my first year of law school back in 2013 when I was taking criminal law.
		This is kind of the beginning of kind of the left's kind of foray into so-called criminal justice reform.
		And even back then, there's a lot of chatter among my more liberal classmates about how, you know, incarceration and prisons and locking people up, you know, how all of it is just racist.
		It's kind of like a, it is an old kind of symbol of a white patriarchal colonialist imperialist society there, and how the ultimate goal is basically to defund the prisons.
		And then, you know, if some people are going to commit some violent crimes, you know, essentially let the chips fall where they may.
		Well, you know, this is letting the chips fall where they may.
		But most American people have not lost their minds.
		Most American people stand where Donald Trump stands, which they want basic basic safety.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		And I don't disagree that we all want basic safety.
		I just don't hear him.
		And like I said, I've looked for it ever even calling for the death penalty uh in those days that were leading up.
		So I decided to do what I always do rather than say what he definitely meant or what he didn't mean.
		I decided to just create a micro timeline of Josh Hammer's tweets.
		And it gets pretty interesting on September 9th, uh, the day before Charlie Kirk's assassination.
		This is uh what Josh Hammer tweeted.
		He tweeted a total of nine times on September 9th, and you can gather what was going on at that day from his tweets.
		He wakes up at 7:30 A6, or rather pushes the first tweet at 7:30 A6, 7:36 a.m.
		And he tweets about a viral Phillies crowd scandal.
		This is an Eastern uh standard time, by the way.
		Right after that, he tweets a link, the one that I just showed you, to his media appearance about Arena Zarutska, where he does not call for the death penalty or anything close to the death penalty.
		Uh 923 a.m., he tweets against Tucker Carlson, because he has to do that uh at least twice a day, or I don't feel like he can get on with his day.
		Uh 929 a.m., he tweets in favor of Israel and throws shade at Trump and Qatar, and that all of this is related to uh what went on on September 9th, which is that uh Israel bombed Qatar for no reason, violating uh international law, which they tend to do a lot.
		But he, of course, was in favor of what they were doing.
		And so he throws shade at Trump and Trump's relationship with Qatar, Because I guess it would be okay for them to violate international law if Trump uh wasn't friends with Qatar or something.
		11:33 a.m., he tweets against Saudi Arabia because they came out and made a statement against what Israel had done.
		Uh so he tweets against Saudi Arabia.
		Uh, and then at 3 o'clock PM, he tweets against Tucker Carlson for telling the truth about Israel in 9-11.
		Again, he has to do that a couple of times a day.
		It's part of his ritual.
		Uh 5.58 p.m., he tweets about the Hebrew Bible being the basis of Western civilization alongside a speech that he had given, tweets a link out, again, promoting himself.
		5 59 p.m., he tweets uh a promotion of his media appearance regarding a Supreme Court decision.
		And then there's this three-hour break.
		Puts his phone down, maybe, maybe, maybe this is a three-hour break where he speaks to Charlie Kirk.
		I don't know, but I know that he speaks to Charlie Kirk at night.
		And then at 9 09 p.m., again, we're talking Eastern.
		Josh Hammer tweets in favor of public execution, and there's no context that is provided.
		So anybody telling you he for sure meant this or he for sure didn't mean this is a liar.
		We cannot know that.
		We cannot know Josh Hammer's thoughts.
		A couple of things that I want to point out.
		Josh is not saying in that tweet that he's calling for the death penalty.
		People calling for the death penalty, debating the death penalty is a very common political debate.
		It's a very common political talking point.
		It is absolutely not a typical or a regular political talking uh point or debate regarding public executions.
		We don't, we don't talk about that often.
		It's an exceedingly specific ask, right?
		Usually reserved to a visceral response to something that you have seen and in the moment, right?
		Matt Walsh.
		Actually, when we're prepping the show, I said, I will guarantee you that when that footage got dropped, which was on September 5th, four days earlier.
		Matt Walsh would have tweeted this person should be publicly executed.
		And by the way, he did.
		He didn't.
		He said, we can't keep living like this.
		The only solution is ruthless punishment, public execution for violent criminals, long prison sentences, hard labor.
		This guy had multiple previous arrests.
		He should have already been serving 30 years in the labor camp.
		This is the only way, as our ancestors knew.
		We've tried compassion and restorative justice, and this is the result.
		It was inevitable.
		So Matt Walsh then went on his show and further explained that already contextualized tweet.
		And he explained how men have a visceral response when you see somebody uh being victimized, a woman being victimized in that way, that Arena was.
		So we decided for good measure that we should check to see if maybe it was something regular that Josh Hammer also spoke about, which is public executions.
		And I can tell you that it is not something that Josh Hammer regularly tweets about or discusses.
		The first time that he tweeted about a public execution uh was back in 2013.
		Um he said it in reference, I'm sorry, in 2022, and he said it in reference to the Boston Marathon bombing terrorist account.
		Oh, sorry, the Uvale shooter.
		Uh the Ivalde shooter is apparently dead, but just as with the Buffalo shooter, this level of pure evil would have been another ideal time for a public execution.
		So to be clear, that makes sense, right?
		He is in the moment and he is saying I'm having a visceral reaction to the idea of another school being shut out, uh, be uh being having another school shooting.
		And for that reason, I am saying that this would have been an appropriate scenario for a public execution.
		Emotions are running high.
		You are visceral and um you're learning things.
	You're seeing and you're learning those things in the moment.
	As I said, that would make sense in its context.
	I also uh want to remind you that Josh Hammer is a lawyer by training.
	He was at one point the editor at large of a Daily Wire, and he is currently the senior editor at large at Newsweeks.
	Plus he hosts his own show.
	My point that I'm making here is he knows how to communicate.
	Okay.
	This is not some random guy on Twitter who doesn't know that if you haven't tweeted all day about something, he can't just throw out tweets about public executions without contextualize them, right?
	Uh he certainly understands you don't just send out a standalone tweet at 9 o'clock PM.
	And everyone's just gonna go, what are you referring to?
	He knows the public is not going to comprehend What he means outside of him providing some further context.
	And I will also add here that it is not particularly helpful that Josh Hammer, as an individual, is obsessively angry.
	He is an incredibly angry little man.
	You can read through his tweets.
	He is openly expressed, bigoted and prejudiced opinions against white people.
	Okay.
	He does not view himself to be a white person.
	He views himself to be a separate race, Jewish.
	That is a fact.
	And it wasn't a long time ago.
	We don't have to go back to 2013 to hear his ideas on that.
	Here is a tweet from him in 2019 that he then erased regarding white people.
	Here's what he said.
	Jew hatred is inherent in the European DNA.
	Okay.
	Just like it's inherent.
	You're just inherent.
	If you're white, you're inherently guilty.
	You're inherently an anti-Semite.
	It's just you're you're you're born this way.
	It's just in your DNA.
	It's kind of incredible that he said that.
	And in response, we were told that he meant it metaphorically, which kind of um metaphor metaphor.
	He run that tweet again.
	And just, I do know a little bit about metaphors and similes, and I'm not feeling Jew hatred is inherent in European DNA.
	How's that for a metaphor, guys, for you?
	Because I thought metaphor might be fire hair to describe somebody who's redheadheaded.
	Oh no, it's not literally fire.
	It's fire, fire red.
	No, I don't think a metaphor would be saying explicitly and literally that hating Jews is inherent inside of white people.
	I think it's amazing that he's even allowed.
	Like there's just no consequence.
	It's like, yeah, well, it's at large in newsweek.
	What are you gonna do?
	Yeah, it's fine.
	You can hate white people.
	We all know that.
	It's fine.
	Totally fine.
	Anyways, that's what he thinks about you guys.
	Full stop.
	And people are maybe perhaps because of that, because of how he regularly treats people and how he regularly attacks people and how vicious he is, are not feeling particularly charitable towards him, especially having been exposed as somebody who lied so audaciously and boldly and repeatedly and unnecessarily about the pressure that Charlie was under, pressure, which Josh Hammer was a part of applying in the weeks and then in the hours leading up to Charlie Kirk's death.
	Saddens me that Charlie was stressed and Charlie was worried, and that the very people that were stressing him out and making him have that sense of anxiety and worry, then you eulogized him and lied about all that.
	Why lie?
	That's the part that the public does not understand.
	How can we then trust a person that lies in that way?
	The natural thing is for us to then wonder what else is Josh lying about?
	Would we trust if Josh came out and said that tweet was definitely about Arena?
	Other people pull old Trump tweets, some did pulled that very tweet and called for a public execution.
	Would you trust Josh if he came out and said, I know I didn't contextualize it?
	And I know all day I was tweeting about Israel, but that one was about Arena.
	Don't forget, he proudly went around and he promoted to everyone that would listen that he spoke to Charlie the night before he died, probably in that three-hour window.
	He bragged that he and Rabbi Wolicke had a Zoom call with Charlie.
	Why?
	Because they said Charlie wanted them to help him with his talking points about Israel.
	Now, I have to say, Charlie was one of the most skilled debaters ever, like literally ever.
	Any person that I have seen actually debating on stage, I learned my debate cues from Charlie Kirk.
	So it is very new to me to think that they scheduled this call because he was in need of tips on debating from a rabbi over in Israel and Josh Hammer.
	But let's be real, I have no proof to the contrary because I wasn't on the Zoom call.
	And Josh made it clear multiple times that in his last conversation with Charlie, Charlie, above anything else, was really interested in Josh's book.
	So much so that in his literal first tweet, after news broke that Charlie had in fact died.
	Josh manages to bring up his book.
	I'm not kidding.
	Here's his tweet.
	He writes this.
	I am speechless, devastated, and heartbroken.
	We spoke less than 24 hours ago.
	Charlie joked how he was going to plug my book on this very tour.
	He was a unique force, a generational leader.
	Pray for Charlie's beautiful wife and their young children.
	Rest in peace, warrior.
	And as you saw yesterday, Josh never forgets to plug his book.
	He never once forgot to plug his book.
	A few days after Charlie's death, he went on JTV, which is on the uh global Jewish channel to discuss that call, that last call with Charlie further with a host named Ollie.
	And here is what Josh says about his book.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		We actually did speak for the last time less than 24 hours before the assassination happened.
		We had a Zoom call, a friend of mine, him, a couple of his producers.
		It was it was a small call.
		We were literally talking above all about the anti-Israel questions that he expected to receive on this campus tour.
		And we're kind of talking him through talking points and strategy and how to deal with the with these expected hostile questions.
		And you know, you held on my book, Israel and Civilization, Ollie.
		He what the last words I think Charlie spoke to me were he literally said, uh, you know, Josh, you know, when the Israel question comes up, I'm just gonna plug your book, you know, Israel and Civilization, because I think that that what you read in the book basically is is how I feel as well.
		And that ends up being the last time that we spoke.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Well, you heard him.
		It's like Charles, Charlie's final wish is for you to buy Josh Hammer's book.
		I mean, it's like, hey, he literally says his last thing he said to me, actually, was like, I'm just gonna plug your book.
		What he wanted to do on this tour was just to plug Josh Hammer's book.
		And it's so sad that he never had the opportunity to plug Josh Hammer's book.
		Now, let's keep with this interview because he's going to be asked more specifically about certain characters in the movement that are trying to quote unquote hijack Charlie's legacy by telling the truth.
		And remarkably, he is going to work.
		I swear he's gonna work in his book again.
unidentified		Take a listen.
		As you mentioned, there have been people who like Ian Carroll and it pains me to mention her name, Candace Owens, because I know how close she was and maybe still still uh is to Charlie.
		Um, but at the end of the day, she's chosen to hijack his death right now to blame it on Israel.
		I mean, it's just so disturbing.
		Um, but then you have the people who are sort of a bit more in the middle.
		Uh oh, and maybe I wouldn't even say in the middle, um, but they're teetering a bit.
		The Megan Kellys and the Michael Knowles and others, kind of in this in between.
		What do you think is going on there with them?
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, look, I mean, we we can talk about every commentator one by one, but I think it's kind of easier to make a few kind of generalizations, right?
		I I think a lot of folks are kind of just trying to take their commentary to where they see the perceived momentum, especially among the younger generation there.
		But so I think a lot of it is trying to kind of, you know, stick your finger in the wind and try to see, you know, where Gen Z is and also really, I mean, above all, see kind of just where the Twitter algorithms are right now.
		I mean, it's very hard to look at someone like let's take Matt Gates, okay?
		Matt Gates was a former Republican congressman from Florida.
		Now he hosts a show on One America News.
		Matt Gates and I were very friendly for a while.
		Okay.
		He had me on his show back in March when my book came out.
		Ollie, he referred to my book as a battle map to save Western civilization.
		It was an extraordinarily kind segment.
		He was asking very intelligent questions.
		He clearly had read the book.
		He was engaging with the material in it there.
		And a few months later, you know, he's talking about Jewish supremacy, you know, a term that has kind of like der Sturmer origins, and he's had all on all sorts of all sorts of horrible guests.
		I mean, does someone like that like actually flip that quickly based on like literally from March to June or July?
		No, of course not.
		I mean, it defies common sense.
		It defies reality.
		That's obviously not what's happening there.
		I think it's just profound cynicism is trying to kind of just play for clicks, play for money, and trying to kind of generate some viral clips to appease a small but but very vocal and very online segment of the American right and of the American internet user base there.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		I just love that he doesn't even blink as he goes from promoting his book again to then accusing people of wanting money.
		It's it's just incredible as he's completely grifting off of Charlie's death by trying to promote his book as like Charlie's last wish.
		Is it's really amazing.
		Also, why does Michael Knowles randomly catch a stray?
		Like what's Michael Knowles been up to that he's like now on their list?
		Uh, Michael Knowles, Meghan Kelly, they're listing them.
		That's coming next.
		Okay.
		Inevitably, it comes in word.
		And I just want to be clear in case um what he's saying is not registering to you correctly.
		So, white men, to the extent that you are willing to get out there and work to serve um really his book, to sell his book to serve his interests, which are very clearly Israel, you're cool.
		You know, no one's gonna call you in semite.
		Everything can be cool.
		Um, to the extent that you, I don't know, maybe don't want to do that, you will be ruined.
		Matt Gates, what was he thinking?
		It's crazy.
		Like, what on earth was Matt Gates thinking?
		It was great when he was out there uh pitching Josh Hammer's book, and now he can't be saved.
		But then, and this is where it gets important.
		Uh, Josh Hammer gets even more specific, uh, addressing the question if Charlie was beginning to crack on his support for Israel.
		Let's not forget, we already know the answer to this is yes.
		So looking at this hindsight 2020 really is something.
		Take a listen.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		If he is what, or if he was going in in a direction that Candace Owens and others say he was going in, you know, very, very simple point.
		Would he have had on me and our friend Rabbi Pesak Woolicki, literally the night before his death to spend an entire hour talking about how to respond to anti-Israel talking wise?
		I mean, it doesn't make any sense.
		It literally simply does not make sense.
		His heart was absolutely in the right place.
		Again, he was trying to navigate kind of some very choppy waters though.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
		It really doesn't make sense.
		Charlie was just on the phone looking for talking points, trying to navigate some choppy waters with how he was going to address uh these kids that had some questions about Israel.
		He didn't, he was unflinching, but he gratefully had Josh Hammer's book and wanted to go through it and make sure that he remembered everything.
		Now, um, this is probably also a great time referring to that little conference call they had, whatever it was a Zoom call, to tell you that that rabbi, Rabbi Walicki, was also on the now infamous text chain.
		So this means that both of those individuals knew exactly where Charlie was at on the topic of Israel and how he felt leading up to that moment of his death.
		And again, like I said, two weeks before that in the Hamptons, they knew where he was at.
		Tucker Carlson told you the truth on his stance on Bibi Netanyahu.
		Nobody wants to address uh or answer the question of whether or not when Bibi Netanyahu invited him to Israel, what the context was of that.
		Do you think that guy who's fighting a 140,000 front war, because he keeps picking fights and pretending he's a victim, really just has time to pick up the phone and shoot the breeze uh with Charlie Kirk, whose number, according to the released letter he didn't even have in May.
		So what's he calling them about?
		They obviously weren't close if he didn't have his number, okay?
		So what's he calling Charlie about?
		Why is he inviting Charlie to Israel two weeks before he dies, right?
		Nobody will address that Charlie said no.
		He did.
		He said no.
		He didn't flinch.
		He wasn't even flinching.
		He was just busy and couldn't make it out to Israel or something.
		Now I will say that regarding Rabbi Walicki, I think he has more of a conscience and soul than Josh Hammer.
		I haven't seen him promoting his book.
		Um, he doesn't lie as audaciously and as repeatedly and tweets nearly as neurotically as Josh Hammer does.
		But I want you to listen to what he had to say when asked, whether or not Charlie was turning on Israel.
		Give us our hindsight 2020, Rabbi Walicki.
unidentified		The wild conspiracy theories on social media, claiming that Israel and the Mossad are behind the assassination of Charlie Kirk because he was turning on Israel.
		Now, you spoke to him just hours before his death.
		Did you feel that that was the case?
		That he was in fact turning on Israel.
pesach wolicki ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Lidar, uh, uh I was in touch with Charlie on an almost daily basis for months.
		And he certainly had uh some disagreements with Israeli policy, and he criticized Israel where he felt appropriate.
		He sometimes believed things like a lot of people do that are out there in the media.
		And that was really the substance of our relationship was checking on things and finding out the truth.
		But that doesn't mean that he was immune to the negative sentiments that were out there.
		And there were a lot of people around him in the America First Movement who were actively working on him to try to get him to turn on Israel.
		But the real answer to your question is the meeting that I had with him.
		And the entire purpose of the meeting, called by Charlie.
		Charlie called this meeting, and it was on our schedule for weeks, was that he was going out on a campus tour.
		Utah was the first stop on his new campus tour.
		And what a lot of people in Israel do not realize, or in the pro-Israel community do not realize, is that between 40 and 50% of all of the questions and challenges that he would get on these campus tours were usually about Israel.
		Because the campuses, of course, have a lot of anti-Israel sentiment, and Charlie was known as a supporter of Israel.
		So he ended up being in a position where he was defending Israel all the time.
		And it drove him crazy because he wanted to talk about America.
		But he was defending Israel all the time.
		So in preparation for this new campus tour, he called a meeting of a few people that he trusted to talk about Israel issues and to anticipate the questions that he would be getting, the challenges that he would be getting on this campus tour, and to make sure that he had the truth and that he could formulate answers that he was comfortable with.
		If Charlie had turned on Israel, why would he even bother with a meeting like that?
		Why would he call a meeting with a few pro-Israel friends of his to talk through Israel issues to make sure that his facts were straight and his talking points were straight so that he could defend Israel better.
		If he was turning on Israel, he would have had Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson in the meeting, planning to throw Israel under the bus.
		The entire premise of the meeting refutes that that theory.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Now that you know that Charlie actually mentioned both Tucker and Candace 48 hours earlier, as they were trying to do what they always do, which is control who he's allowed to speak to, control who I was allowed to speak to back when I was within the Zionist movement and waking up and realizing something was dangerously wrong when they started to try to control my voice.
		It's unbelievable.
		It's really unbelievable to reflect on that.
		Now I will say again, Rabbi Walicki, more of a soul.
		He's at least acknowledging that something was going on, right?
		I don't think he would have been comfortable pulling the Josh.
unidentified		He was great.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		It was amazing by my book, right?
		He loved every second.
		He's amazing.
		Oh my God, he wish just wished he could have gone over.
		The one thing that hurt Charlie Kirk the most was that he would never be able to wear an IDF uniform.
		He just wanted to go fight for Israel.
		That's kind of the vibes that they were trying to put out there.
		At least Rabbi Walicki is like, he was under some pressure.
		Okay.
		He's saying it softly, but he's like, he was kind of needing to have a conversation to say he's not comfortable answering these questions anymore, uh, because he doesn't feel this way anymore.
		He realizes something is wrong.
		I told you he was particularly worried uh that Israel was infringing upon speech in America.
		I have text messages to that effect.
		Okay.
		So there's there's no undoing that.
		He was aware that they had lost the PR war, and it was weighing on him that he was seen as Rabbi Wooliki accurately states as this person who just defends Israel, especially when what they are doing is so plainly immoral.
		It was starting to fracture people's viewpoints of Charlie, right?
		And Charlie, like I said, when he got into this, like when I got into this, we were genuinely pro-Israel.
		There was nothing, there was not payment that was coming in.
		It was there, was I ignorant?
		Yes.
		I've owned that a thousand times.
		I thought it's not it's not relevant topic, and it seems makes sense, you know, the low-hanging arguments make sense.
		Why can't they have your own country?
unidentified		Whatever.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		I thought this was BLM.
		He was always genuine.
		And I think, as I've said, he was genuinely over it towards the end because of Jewish behavior.
		His words, not mine, leaning into the stereotypes of Jewish behavior.
		Okay.
		He didn't want to be bullied.
		He was being bullied.
		They knew that he was being bullied.
		And yet they want us to believe that less than 48 hours before he died, Charlie announces that.
		He announces that he has no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel cause because of Jewish donors and their behavior, living up to these stereotypes.
		And despite this frustration, 48 hours earlier, the following day, he decided to have that smaller audience with two Jewish individuals who were on that chat and were aware that he was angry, but this conversation was not going to be a follow-up or in relation to what he had just expressed hours earlier to them both, but rather he was just like a super fan of Josh's book.
		He's like, gosh, this is amazing.
		This book is amazing.
		I want to get on the phone with the author.
		What a wonderful opportunity to speak to the author.
		I love this.
		Tell me to come up with this idea for the book.
		I want to hear more.
		And also, I'd like to strategize on how to deal with the questions that are coming at me using and promoting your book.
		That's what Josh wants us to believe, at least, right?
		And then we're supposed to believe that he had that dramatic switch.
		So he went from I'm done to like, hey, love you.
		How can I be of more service to you?
		And then in that exact same day, he was texting people saying they are gonna kill me.
		On the same day that he's on this Zoom call, this is a fact, this night Zoom call, as as Josh says it was that night in or the New York Post reported, I think, right?
		That it was at night, that at the same time that same day, he's texting people saying they are going to kill me.
		And we are supposed to deduce from this that by they, what he really meant was Tyler Robinson.
		He meant they, them, duh, like a non-binary person or a trans person, they were going to kill him.
		That was what he had a feeling about.
		And everything else is just completely irrelevant.
		Um, he just had a sense, a premonition that a trans person was going to get him.
		Do you believe that?
		Do you buy any of that?
		And I want to say this, I was speaking to somebody earlier about how interesting it is that none of us, and I'm not saying none of us, I'm talking about Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, myself, when we were speaking honestly and accurately about what Charlie was going through and how he was being bullied and how he was under pressure.
		And Megan even spoke about it herself, by the way, Megan, uh, you should probably tell people who those individuals are.
		Um, we never once said that Israel killed Charlie Kirk.
		I've never said that because on the basis of the facts that you guys are following on the show, I don't have any evidence of that.
		It doesn't serve me to make up an area that I can't prove, right?
		Why would I say that?
		But what I will say is that I am uncomfortable with how many lies.
		People that support Israel have been telling in the wake of his death.
		That has been almost the only compelling argument that Israel had anything to do with it is the way they're acting right now.
		Like Bibi Net and Yahoo, the propaganda, the lies, the coming after Candace Jones.
		None of this was necessary.
		Nobody thought when this first happened, this is a hundred percent Israel.
		100%.
		This happened in Mormon country.
		How come there were no normal no Mormon people, no Mormon presidents coming out and saying, I just want to be clear that um we didn't kill Charlie Kirk 24 hours after he died?
		Because that's what Bibi did.
		How come there were no Mormon people that started Operation Mormon pastor or president feeling the need to baselessly attack me?
		I was actually on the Mormons.
		I've been on the show calling them out by name, saying who was doing what.
		Mormons were not offended by that at all.
		Because they want to know if somebody is corrupt and had something to do with this.
		They want to know if uh their church was involved in this.
		That's a normal response.
		Not to say we, it definitely wasn't us, but rather to say, I'm on this journey.
		I want to know who killed Charlie Kirk too.
		And I'm therefore going to support Candace's efforts to find out.
		Exact opposite of what Israel is doing, right?
		That is the one disturbing fact about people that support Israel.
		Their behavior, to put it in a way that Charlie put it.
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	Okay.
	First, I want to put out an I think cop's called an APB.
	What does it actually stand for, Mark?
	I'm not, I'm not a all points bulletin.
	See, you're never too old to learn something.
	And of course, Mark knew that instantly.
	Uh, all points bulletin.
	Mark has got a lot of random facts about every subject up there in his brain.
	We're not really sure sure why.
	First order of business, I got to put out this all points bulletin.
	I'm looking for footage on UVU campus, some particular footage from people that were there that day.
	And I want to be real specific here so we don't um clog up the inbox because obviously when you send footage to bigger file, I'm looking for video footage of any older males, okay, any older males that day that have long hair that was up in a ponytail or a bun.
	So if you are UVU student or you know someone who was UVU student, please send this around and ask people to send me their footage.
	I just want to see footage of men that have their long hair, enough hair that it's up in a ponytail or a bun.
	There is, of course, a specific reason why I am asking for that.
	Also, they're in me scouring the earth for every piece of footage.
	There's an almost incomprehensible lack of footage that is coming from the left side of Charlie, meaning if Charlie is facing the crowd, it would be his left side.
	So we have gone ahead and highlighted for you where I am looking for footage from.
	Okay.
	I can't find footage from this section.
	Uh, Chris, if you could go back to that first one again, too.
	Um This section right here.
	If you were sitting here or go to the next one, all on the side, when the shots rang out or just before, you know, maybe in the 10 minutes before, so I can see who was around or what happened when those shots rang out.
	It is weird.
	There's just a couple, it's like a black hole.
	Cannot get footage of that angle uh from the front.
	Uh, you're probably going, well, doesn't Turning Point have that footage?
	Well, turning point, as we have learned, is not going to show anybody anything in 4K or in 5K.
	I think because that would be helpful or something.
	So we have to do it this way, the organic way, which takes much more time.
	You know, I do want to say this as well.
	Uh, you can send that by the way to uh tips at candaceowens.com.
	We also have more tips at candaceowens.com.
	And please just put um in the subject line footage at UVU.
	That would be very easy.
	It would help us sort things.
	We've kind of been cleaning up the inbox.
	Again, more tips at CandaceOwens.com or tips at CandaceOwens.com.
	You know, somebody uh speaking to earlier today was speaking about um, you know, the anxiety that turning point is going through.
	I do want to say this first and foremost because I I felt this way at previous companies.
	They are amazing people that work at Turning Point USA, the overwhelming majority of them.
	And that's what sucks when it corporates people at the top take a direction, those people get no say, right?
	This investigation is being assisted by Turning Point USA, not the execs, but turning point people on the ground, people that they don't even think about, smaller employees, like they deeply care about what has happened.
	They deeply care about finding answers uh regarding what happened to Charlie Kirk.
	And so we never want to paint a broad picture that this is this is turning point.
	The top is most certainly not the bottom.
	And somebody was saying, you know, what if this what you're doing uh destroys Turning Point USA?
	And I said, you know what?
	This is what I always say.
	If the truth is capable of destroying your company, the truth, then does your company deserve to exist?
	Think about that.
	If if I'm like, if people learn the truth about how Candace Owens treats her employees, Candace Owens isn't gonna have a career.
	If people learn the truth about what Candace Owens does in the weekends, it will destroy her career.
	Like that probably means that you're you're not a good person or you're not a good company if the truth is a threat to you.
	I've heard this argument over and over.
	I've never been fearful.
	And obviously, I'm kind of constantly going through a public x-ray, a public uh x-ray of my life, people examine.
	I'm never fearful because I think I'm a decent decent person, right?
	I live honorably, do I make mistakes?
	Yes, I own my mistakes immediately.
	Uh, and I will be very quick to apologize to people when I get things wrong.
	But I'm not an evil person.
	Nowhere near an evil person.
	And I always try to be honest.
	And so do not concern yourselves with people that feel threatened by truth, right?
	That's that's ridiculous.
	Anyway, speaking of which, obviously, you can see right now the Zionist lobby hates me and Tucker Carlson.
	It is like nothing anybody has ever seen in their lives.
	This past year, it they've really upped the ante on trying to destroy me and Tucker Carlson.
	The hatred is deep.
	It's sinister, it's evil.
	Um, and they have sent virtually every foot soldier that they have available to attack us repeatedly, right?
	Or attack us repeatedly, make videos.
	People gets confusing.
	What is it?
	Is she lying?
	Why is she saying this?
	Is this the right time?
	It's actually getting quite boring, I think.
	It's a little boring.
	I would almost describe their strategy as blitz Krieg.
	I don't want to be accused of being a Nazi for using these two German words, blitzkrieg, but it has been something like bombardment and um bombardment and this morning.
	They sent out Dinesh to Susa after me.
	It's very, very convincing, by the way.
	He sent out a tweet to convince people that they shouldn't watch me.
	He said, I can't comment on Canvas because it's quite obviously a freak show.
	It's like driving on the highway and seeing a farmer having sex with a sheep.
	You don't want to look, but you can't look away either.
	The problems begin when you try to analyze it.
	It is what it is.
	And I love that Ishar Ali replies and says, This is what I mean.
	These are the people who are supposed to be combating Candace Owens.
	Instead, they tweet stuff like this.
	Yeah, um, hi, Dinesh, kinda weird, man.
	We cannot relate.
	I gotta tell you, um, if I ever was in this awful scenario where I saw a farmer trying to have sex with a sheep, I feel very much that I could not only look away, but I could call the police.
	Okay.
	So if that's kind of what you're selling, you know how, like, when you can't look away from bestiality.
	Da Nesh, you want to know your opinion on me, not what's on your laptop and how they maybe blackmailed you, okay?
	That's not what we're interested in, Dinesh D'Souza.
	And he's like, Well, I meant that as a joke.
	You didn't mean as a joke.
	You went it seriously, and it was weird.
	It got weird very quickly.
	And we learned more about you than we learned about me.
	That seems to be the circumstance.
	It's like uh a complete boomerang.
	But yeah, this is they're really starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel and finding people and some weird stuff.
	So I'd say think to Nesh Souza, if he thought that uh that was going to be relatable and convince people, yeah, I totally believe.
	Yeah, it's like we could just can't look away from that stuff when you see it.
	I that did not happen.
	That did not happen.
	Now, because they are seriously increasing uh and being uh, I would almost say erratic in their behavior, obsessive, erratic, neurotic.
	There is a real risk here, right?
	I do not accept, and do you guys that Charlie Kirk lost his life uh because he really pissed off the trans lobby?
	It terrifies me to think that on the day that Charlie died, I got multiple phone calls from people who said that me and Charlie, me and uh Tucker should lay low because we're also on the list.
	And they never told us who specifically told them that, by the way.
	Now I'm wondering why they never told us who specifically told them that.
	I called Tucker, I'm like, I'm hearing, are you hearing me saying I'm hearing if they're saying that we're next?
	And now I go, was that supposed to be a threat to me and Tucker?
	To have us watch the public execution of a friend of ours and then to call us and to say you should lay low for a little bit because you guys were hearing that you guys are on a list.
	Is that just supposed to be a threat?
	Because why wouldn't you be more forthcoming with exactly who you heard that from?
	Uh and I said, I remember saying, I was like, Did the feds say this?
	Who said this specifically?
	Because why aren't they calling me and Tucker?
	Why are why am I calling Tucker and telling him about this?
	And I did.
	He will tell you that.
	This really happened.
	And I'm coming out of the grief stage and realizing I think that was an element of this.
	To send a signal to shoot him in the throat, right?
	To say, we took out his voice and we will take yours out too.
	And that's terrifying and that's real.
	And these people that we are fighting are dangerous, okay?
	Do not underestimate them.
	They are dangerous and they are haughty and they are growing increasingly desperate and panicked people that are evil in this way are not people that you wanna that you want to play with, right?
	People are nervous.
	Everyone is feeling it.
	And that's why I decided that I don't know what's gonna happen, okay?
	I don't know how many days I have on this planet.
	I do know what I'm fighting for.
	Um, and I do know that this life is not it.
	It's not.
	I'm telling you guys, it's not.
	The people that want you to believe that it is, people that pulled you away from your faith in the first place, as I'm trying to demonstrate to you, did it because they knew that they could further enslave you.
	They want you to be fearful of death.
	They want you to think it's it.
	They want you to think it's lights out, and then everything is over and that you are not a soul, right?
	Because then they can get you to do things to guard what you have in this world.
	Follow their rules to do things that you know are wrong because you need the money.
	It indoctrinates you into their Matrix.
	What I wanted to do, as I discussed yesterday, and which got picked up was to create a kill switch, right?
	To realize that Kanye was kind of right.
	Never too late to say that Kanye was right.
	Kanye said that in order to be free, you had to violate these contracts.
	You had to recognize that your voice is being controlled.
	And Kanye did just that.
	It was really an act of bravery to free himself.
	But I have no doubt that the same people that were torturing Kanye, the same people that were torturing Charlie Kirk, Kanye died today, would be the first to eulogize him.
	I feel that.
	And you I feel that.
	And I think it's important to share that information as Kanye sent me all the messages of people who were threatening him.
	I have them all to information share with Max Blumenthal with people, village, I mean people all over the place to send a package and say if anything happens to me and it looks suspicious, release it all.
	You know, it's not even about having an opposite and equal reaction.
	I want it to be an unequal reaction.
	I want it to be a mistake because people it catalyzes people waking up and learning exactly how this matrix works.
	And uh Alex Jones brought this up on his show, my my my kill switch.
	Here's what he had to say.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What does she lay the traps for him?
		She comes out and says, Yeah, Charlie was calling me, wanting me out of his events again, and all the rest of it.
		And he was also really concerned about the Israel lobby coming after him.
		And they said, You're a liar, Charlie didn't like you.
		Charlie didn't like you.
		Charlie didn't call you, he didn't text you.
		And so she let him say that for a few weeks and then released it.
		The text.
		And then she said, Yeah, he was really upset with the Israel lobby and said he was breaking with them entirely.
		He wouldn't be bullied by them in the weeks before he was killed.
		They said, You're a liar, that's not true.
		So she released those two days ago.
		Now she says she has the proof, and it's text messages.
		That he feared for his life in the two days in the day before he was killed.
		And predictably, they're already saying it.
		She she's a liar.
		And then she's gonna release those.
		And she's also sent out the dead man switch.
		Just like James O'Keefe did to myself and a few others right before he released the stuff on Prince Andrew, which is dangerous, by the way, proving that he indeed raped the girls and cover it up.
		People are like, we already know that.
		How's that daring?
		Oh, oh, you're gonna release the total proof on the King of England's brother?
		Uh yeah, that's dangerous.
		So those of you saying O'Keefe doesn't risk his life and all the stuff he's been through and been arrested and indicted and raided.
		Try putting on issues for a while before you sit around and say that he didn't do anything.
		Man's a champion.
		But but the point is is that this is a real dead man switch.
		She has sent out it to the Tate brothers, Dave Smith, Max Blumenthal, Turkey Carlson, and others.
		Well, I'm trying to get her on for weeks.
		I'm a little bummed out she didn't send it to me.
		Because I'd like to stand with her, but uh, but we do stand with her.
		So they're already out saying she's a liar.
		She's gonna release that.
		Now, this doesn't prove Israel killed him.
		Or a lobby around that.
		Because I've seen no evidence.
		You know, they said a security detail was Israeli, they weren't.
		It was just the first knee-jerk reaction.
		I said, You can certainly say Israel's a suspect, but I said you see proof.
		We need to figure out the ballistics and who really shot him and all that before we then start saying, okay, you know, motive.
		I mean, you can always look at motive, but but first with the forensic situation, are they covering it up?
		What's the ballistics?
		That's just where I am.
		I'm not gonna just say something because people think it.
		But when she releases this, she's got it.
		Make no mistake.
		Just like she keeps bringing the goods, and she just sets the hook with the worm on it or puts the mousetrap out with the cheese on it, and they come out and say you're liar.
		She goes, boom.
		You're a liar, boom.
		Bam.
		So she'll let him, you know, for a week or so kind of stew and say she's a liar, and then she'll just release it.
		And then what she's saying is, you kill me, it doesn't matter, it's coming out.
		And the word is he specifically thought Israel was gonna kill him.
		Even when Michael Savage first, a few months ago said, Netanyahu needs to go on my show.
		During the break, he goes, Man, I hope Masad doesn't kill me.
		Cruise saw it.
		He was on the feed, he didn't say it was off record.
		It was during the break.
		So there are a lot of groups who want Charlie killed.
		He was defeating the Democrats with TP USA, got over two and a half million people to vote conservatively for Trump.
		I was moving the needle big time, more than anybody with young people on colleges.
		So I see them as the motive, and they said we want Charlie dead.
		They said, you know, they celebrated when he was dead.
		He had like six Trantifa.
	Say, Charlie be dead tomorrow.
	Then they said, see, we told you.
	And that was in the town.
	So, you know, we got Tranjifa, the tranny Antifa, running around engaged in all sorts of violence everywhere.
	So I was like, okay, yeah, I mean that that bitch.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		So you get the picture.
		I mean, I think in he goes on to explain how we all feel, which is like genuinely, we had no proof and no rhyme or reason to think or suspect Israel whatsoever.
		And it's really just been this insane behavior of covering up and lying that makes us question things.
		Like that's the reality.
		And by the way, questioning things doesn't mean that we have any proof that that happened, which is why we've been actually reticent to say that.
		Um they're not acting right.
		And gut means something.
		They're not acting right.
		None of them are acting right.
		And that's not just turning point USA execs.
		And I've tried to explain it away in my head a thousand times.
		Oh, well, you know, everyone's great.
		Well, whatever.
		Grieving and give them time, and then it just got to a place where I said, uh, no.
		This this feels like something else.
		I don't I don't know why they're telling little lies.
		And uh little lies only exists to cover up bigger lies.
		Anyways, you guys, all of that, I also do want to add here, show you a clip before we get into some of your comments, that it's also very good to not extend to everyone that is Jewish, the viewpoints of this very radical sect that has a lot of power in America.
		People like Josh Hammer, don't get fired when they explicitly express that you know they hate white people, whatever.
		That's like okay on your resume.
		That's not the people you know this that you went to school with.
		Like I grew up around the Dave Smiths of the world, right?
		And I always say I'm grateful that I did, because when you engage into politics, what you see is so ugly that you just go, oh my gosh, like coming up coming into stereotypes.
		You're living up every stereotype.
		But what you're seeing is the stranglehold of APAC is a political organization.
		And I always say if you look at any lobby in DC, it'll make you hate someone, right?
		Pharmaceutical lobby will make you hate from the pharmaceutical companies.
		Uh, the Jewish lobby will make you hate Jews.
		The black caucus will make you hate black people.
		And so people that go to DC are incredibly corrupt.
		Money rules them, and they become powerful.
		Power corrupts, uh, absolutely.
		It's just good to remember that.
		And I found myself uh wanting to show you this joke.
		This is a comedian, John Marco Serezzi, who is uh Jewish and just taking, he's making fun.
		This is what comedians do, making fun of himself.
		Uh, makes everybody feel better.
		Just remember that there are people that are not like Josh Hammer.
		That's kind of what the point I want to get across.
		Listen to this very funny joke by uh John Marco Saresi.
gianmarco soresi ▲ ● ▼		I celebrated most of the major Jewish holidays growing up.
		Passover was my favorite, because you get to read it at the table.
		And then that's that's that's the story where the Jews, we were enslaved by the Pharaoh, and then and then Moses made the plagues happen, and then and then uh we escaped and we crossed the desert for 40 years.
		I liked it because it made Jews seem cool.
		But that was also kind of confusing.
		Because I was like, okay, how did how did we go from crossing the desert to now being known as generally frail?
		And I did I didn't know, I didn't understand until one day I went on vacation to Miami with my very Jewish girlfriend, and the moment we got to the beach, she was like, It's like a desert out here.
unidentified		And I was like, oh my god.
gianmarco soresi ▲ ● ▼		What if Jews have been exaggerating this entire fucking time?
gianmarco soresi ▲ ● ▼		We got stuck in traffic on the way there.
unidentified		My girlfriend was like, Let my people go.
gianmarco soresi ▲ ● ▼		The beach was a little crowded.
unidentified		He said, there's like six million people here.
unidentified		LAUGHTER LAUGHTER LAUGHTER LAUGHTER LAUGHTER Yeah, you got it.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		That's fantastic.
		It's funny.
		And it's good to remind yourself that politics is serious all the time, but most of the people do not behave like psychopaths and they're very funny and can make fun of themselves.
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		All right, guys.
		What do you guys think?
		Um, are you giving Josh Hammer a charitable read?
		Uh, do you think that he was inspired?
		Uh, because there were people that were bringing up that old tweet.
		They always always pull it, they always say there's a Trump tweet for everything, and then people will pass it around for certain situations.
		Do you think that that was is what he was doing in the context of what was going on that day, which was really the focus of his tweets seemed to be um talking about Israel as always and and going after Qatar and Tucker Carlson, as always.
		What are you guys thinking?
		Corey Henry, thank you uh for that donation.
		Hey, sister from another mother.
		Hire more security.
		I fear for you now.
		Please stay safe.
		Prayers for you and yours.
		You are getting close.
		The phone call was them putting pressure on him.
		Wow, just wow.
	Corey, I will tell you, Charlie owned the security company.
	So that security company, you see that's around him.
	He owned it.
	He actually outright purchased a security company.
	And it didn't matter.
	And they didn't do anything.
	It clearly was an act of vanity.
	They should never be allowed to work again because why would you not have I mean he's a sitting duck for the amount that he was paying for that security for them to not check rooftops?
	You could have someone actually requiring that you have access to rooftops.
	You could have one of your guys on a rooftop.
	Wouldn't that be a good idea?
	I don't know.
	I just, I don't understand it.
	Um Kelly Gibbs writes, my Catholic Bestie and I keep you in our prayers.
	Thank you, Kelly, for this gift.
	Rosary and Divine Mercy, I pray that our Lord and Lady protect you and your family, give you wisdom and safeguard the pearl of great price, the faith passed down from the apostles.
	Thank you so much.
	That's such a sweet comment.
	Jose Cruz writes, Candice, I love you so much.
	May God bless you.
	Can you lightly please don't stop?
	Yeah, a lot of love from Mexico.
	I'm not associated with Turning Point USA, and I'm not a liberal.
	Please don't tear apart Turning Point USA because we need a movement for the youth.
	Please tread lightly.
	Make sure you have all the facts because you are an important voice.
	Any youth movement must be based in truth.
	And like I said, Turning Point USA has fantastic people that worked and signed up to work for that company and dedicated their time with that company, whether even volunteers, people on college campuses, because they believed in truth and they knew they were getting it from Charlie.
	Right now, we are at a point.
	And I think John and Arena Mappen in that beautiful letter they wrote yesterday, said it way more eloquently than I ever could, which is if you if you actually continue the legacy of Charlie, it means continuing to fight for truth.
	And to the extent that they do that, fantastic.
	They will have an ally in me.
	Um I never attacked Turning Point USA because it came from Turning Point USA.
	And I saw what it took to build that company because I was a part of building that company.
	But to the extent that we feel that they've become so corporate that they're not answering our questions or making us feel ashamed for asking these questions or just like feeling like they don't care about getting to truth.
	I think it was very sloppy what Tyler Boyer did on X. He was accusatory, he called people names.
	To that extent, they won't survive.
	That is just a reality.
	I can't fix that, right?
	People will pick up on that.
	They will pick up on what feels like treachery.
	It will feel to them like a betrayal to Charlie Kirk's legacy.
	Because that's how it feels to me, right?
	We're all feeling it together.
	That's the point.
	And so we offer this as a course correction for them.
	You know, I want to believe that they're just grieving in a weird way, that they have a ton of things on their plates.
	Maybe they're fearful for their own lives.
	I don't know.
	But if that were the truth, they could still get the truth out to other people.
	And that is something I want you to know that Charlie was remarkable at.
	And that's why I always defended Charlie.
	Never took the bait on people saying he's this, he's this.
	Charlie was very good at knowing he's the guy that'll get in the room.
	He was happy to schmooze.
	He was a perfect diplomat and politician.
	And then he would call and he'd call like uh Tucker or me and say, You hit this, you go hard, you do this.
	I mean, he was as someone put it put it today, he was a maestro.
	He really was.
	He's like, that's the drum, you know.
	Uh so we're gonna need the base, you're gonna need to be the strings.
	I'm gonna play this, and we are we're gonna have a symphony.
	They're not working with the fighters.
	It feels like they're working with the feds.
	They've said explicitly they're working with the feds.
	So I don't know what to make of that.
	Uh, but I hear you.
	I hear you, and I feel the same way.
	I want Turning Point USA to survive, but I want them to be truthful first.
	Eevee writes, thank you for that uh donation, Evie.
	It's giving Joey from friends.
	Do they know that we know no?
	Amazing work as always.
	Much love and support from Australia.
	And if anything, God forbid happened to you, I promise we would all ride at dawn.
	Thank you.
	I know that you guys would all over the world.
	And I know that you wouldn't know, but you would know now.
	You know what I mean?
	Like we would know what happened.
	So there we go.
	Angela writes, follow the money, it never lies.
	Christ is king, team Candace.
	Thank you, Angela.
	MJ Ramone writes, that's what's done in the dark will be exposed in the light.
	Absolutely.
	It is biblical.
	Angela Lewis writes, Mormon here, we love you, Candace.
	We just want truth, and we are praying for you constantly.
	Yes.
	I do want to say shout out to the Mormon community for never accusing me of being anti-Utah or anti-Mormon.
	I don't know what, anti-Latter-day Saints.
	Sorry, I know nothing about your faith.
	Um, but you have been assisting, and that's been amazing.
	And you want to know, like I want to know.
	Like we all want to know.
	Kian Herb writes, I realized something beautiful.
	Charlie wanted you on stage, Amfest.
	They tried to stop him, but in doing so, he made sure that you had an even bigger stage.
	He knew pulling back the veil on the current spiritual warfare needed to be shown by you on a global stage.
	Rest in peace, Charlie.
	I feel that way.
	I do.
	I feel like everything that happened.
	And that's why I say I was always like his big sister, like it happened to me first.
	Um and it was very hurtful.
	It was hard.
	And Charlie, it was hurtful for him because you believe they're your friends.
	Like I believed that.
	I believe they wanted my, I just took it.
	Like I once retweeted Max Blumenthal, and they made me think I was like the worst human.
	Um, and I took them at their word before I realized that it was much more sinister.
	And I'm grateful thus far, um, that I did not pay any greater cost than them destroying my reputation and my name and trying to get me canceled everywhere.
	Dennis Domian writes, in times where deception grows, truth tellers matter most.
	Thank you, Candace.
	Your courage gives hope.
	Greetings from Croatia, Christis King.
	I'll tell you a story.
	I used to live in Croatia for a couple of months, about three months, working on a wedding in Dubrovnik.
	Uh Josie Ells writes, God bless you.
	We are rooting for you from Australia.
	I hope you're rooting for me to get into Australia.
	By uncovering the flaws in the U.S., you've opened our eyes to the demonism that we are under in our own government too.
	I can't wait for them to approve your visa so that we can show you some Aussie love.
	Even that, you know, it's up to the Supreme Court or the High Court of Australia.
	Uh and if it happens, even that was meant to be because I I still can't believe that I'm like banned from I got banned from a come a country.
	Like, what am I doing?
	That my country, uh I wasn't even gonna speak about Israel, like nothing.
	And yet the Zionist lobby grows up, and like she can't speak.
	I was gonna speak about homeschooling and children and my backstory and race issues.
	And they were like, You can't come in.
	Okay, but you can still download my podcast on Spotify.
	I don't, I don't understand.
	Henry Love writes to spiritual war.
	Thank you for being one of the warriors of light.
	Thank you, Henry.
	Uh Rachel Ryder writes, I owe you an apology, Candace as a former Dem.
	I am ashamed to admit that I've said some awful things about you, wholly unwarranted that I deeply regret.
	You're a brilliant, honest voice in a uh choir of crooks and liars.
	We don't deserve you, God bless.
	You know what, Rachel, I'll apologize back.
	Uh, because I was also partially blinded and I thought that it was just the left.
	You know, I was taking that low-hanging fruit of us warring against each other.
	And I've realized now, like, no, we're all actually fighting real evil, and we're gonna disagree along the way.
	You know, I I don't think you should trans your children.
	I'm against it.
	I'm very against it.
	Um, but I also am more interested in where all of his ideologies are coming from.
	I'm more interested in the war against family.
	I'm more interested in waking everybody up by actually being more charitable in our interpretations of one another and what motivates us and less charitable to the government, right?
	Because they know exactly what they're doing.
	And that's the real risk.
	That is the real threat to the government is the left and the right actually uniting.
	In fact, they were like angry when they were randomly, you know, uh, they've just been treating Megan Kelly like a battered wife.
	I don't know.
	I say something, she gets beat.
	It's weird.
	But during that course of that Constantine Kissing, when he was like, You need to make a statement against Candace and Tucker, um, somebody else was saying to her, Candace doesn't even hate the left anymore.
	Like that was supposed to be a convincing argument for Megan to trash me, like really trying to get us exist in that left-right paradigm, and it only serves them at the top.
	Uh, so I hope more of this, more uh realizing and more coming together on the stuff that we can't agree on.
	Miracle Media lastly writes, Candice, as a Christian, you have the authority to fight any strife that comes your way.
	Recite and memorize Psalms 91, 121, 23.
	And I guarantee God's angels will protect your footsteps, your family from these evildoers.
	They are protection scriptures.
	I thank you so much for saying that.
	And uh, we pray every day.
	We really do.
	But uh, everything is in God's control.
	And we, I feel are in a great period of revelation.
	And that is why we are also in a period of anxiety, because with with that, the, you know, the demons commit further to their uh demonology, and um we therefore have to commit more to truth.
	And yeah, that's basically all that I want to say today.
	You guys, I have some bad news here at the very end.
	I am gonna take uh next week off.
	I'm gonna take about 10 days off, actually.
	Uh, we'll give you more details about that tomorrow.
	But, you know, I just feel like I need to I'm arriving at the acceptance phase.
	I will say the stages of grief was is very real.
	Um, and I just kind of want to take a little bit of time to really just kind of mourn Charlie in my in my own personal capacity and just kind of recognize I'm never gonna see him again, I'm never gonna talk to him again, and to say kind of bye in my own way and take a break and a breather.
	And um, So nothing bad is happening to me.
	I will still be uh sending an occasional Instagram wave so that you guys know that I'm fine.
	Uh, but I wanted to let you know a heads up what's uh going on there.
	Anyways.
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	And it's a parody because we don't want to be in the CIA.
	We think there's a lot of corruption there.
	Actually, I'm hoping one day my team will let me have the green hat.
	They never sent it to me.
	So hopefully, if you know someone, somebody get me that green CIA hat because it's actually people are tagging me in and I don't have it, and it's really nice.

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