Charlie Kirk’s assassination investigation reveals Phil Lyman’s cousin Shanner Broderick, now off social media, retracing the killer’s path with Austrian software engineer Gurno Omer—both linked to suspicious online activity. Detective Mike Mitchell’s history of entrapment operations and ties to arrested decoy George Zinn raise concerns. Kirk abruptly abandoned pro-Israel advocacy 48 hours before his death, allegedly due to Jewish donor pressure, while his bulletproof vest contract was canceled for unclear reasons. Two Utah events spaced 20 days apart and a questionable hospital transfer suggest orchestrated deception, with Candace Owens accusing media suppression and political manipulation as the investigation uncovers inconsistencies. [Automatically generated summary]
Charlie gets assassinated, and the very people who were threatening him reputationally and financially are now trying to memorialize him as having died as a friend of Israel.
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Okay, challenge accepted.
All lies will be revealed, and we're going to help reveal those lies.
Also, yesterday we asked for the public's help in identifying two individuals who Phil Lyman's nephew described as his close friends, who decided to retrace the path of Charlie's killer.
And what we have discovered thus far is absolutely stunning.
This story couldn't get any crazier.
By the way, I did speak to Phil Lyman, and I'll tell you what he told me and what he insisted that we clarify.
Now, I would say that it's getting weird, but honestly, right from the jump, it's been weird.
Welcome back to Candace.
It took him a little over two weeks, but now Bb Netanyahu, with maybe a little help from turning point Usa, i'm thinking, is releasing the letter, the may love letter, from Charlie Kirk to Israel, just out of nowhere.
He was just overcome with love for Israel, and he decided to write this love letter to the prime minister about how they could fight harder, how they commit themselves further to the Israeli cause.
We're going to get to that, and we're just going to slaughter that narrative that Charlie died pro-Israel.
But first, I want to jump right back into what we uncovered yesterday to keep you guys focused.
I presented to you guys in short that the gubernatorial candidate, Phil Lyman, was a bit, in my opinion, too involved in the investigation of who assassinated Charlie Kirk.
Now, the Lyman family in general was everywhere, all over this investigation.
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We introduced, and I said his name was Shane.
I'd like to correct that record, his nephew, Shaner Broderick, who rather notoriously retraced the footpath of the killer with his two close friends.
They were like, here, here it is.
The converse footprint is right here.
They even created a map, okay?
Shaner even created a map of where exactly the killer walked and the media used his map.
And of course, Phil Lyman's car was in the driveway just 20 minutes before I, Phil Lyman reiterated to the Fox News.
It was just 20 minutes before I pulled into the driveway, my aunt's house, and I parked my car.
And then 20 minutes later, the killer, the killer was limping by.
Now, I'll let you guys know that when our episode finished yesterday, I had a message or two from Phil Lyman, despite the fact that I had reached out to him hours before we began our show.
He at first was sort of focusing his energy toward Nick, the person that I told you worked on his campaign and just wanted to help out in the investigation.
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Now, Phil would like me to clarify that Nick never worked on his campaign.
And by the way, I looked back and that was actually my mistake, not Nick's.
I thought that when Nick had first introduced Lyman to me over the phone, that he said, oh, like I am, you know, I'm working on his campaign.
He said that it was because he was helping Nick out early on in the investigation.
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Yes, that is true.
I told you guys that.
And Nick was particularly asking him to determine who owned a white vehicle that was parked in the neighborhood, which was nearby where the shooter had walked.
So I'm not entirely clear why he needed to stop at Nick's house to speak to him and why that would be on his list of things to do.
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Now, I am told, according to a very strong source, that what Phil Lyman was doing in town on Saturday was he was meeting with Tim Ballard.
That's totally random.
Did not expect to hear that.
Tim Ballard, if you're not familiar with him, is formerly of Operation Underground Railroad, which is a charity that is dedicated to helping to stop human sex trafficking.
I even remember, by the way, when we were all speaking about that plane transponder that turned off, that the individuals that owned that plane were wearing an Operation Underground Railroad t-shirt.
I've actually interviewed him and I used to donate to that charity because I was so moved by my interview with him when I was working for Prager University.
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But moving on from that, Phil also disputes something that was quite strange that Shannon Broderick is his nephew.
I said, okay, wait a minute.
Actually, Shannon Broderick literally posted that on his Instagram.
He said, my uncle, Phil Lyman.
But Phil seems like he's trying to distance himself for some reason from Shannon.
Doesn't want to know, doesn't want to know who he's connected to.
He's also completely wiped his Facebook page entirely.
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And regarding his Instagram, he's privatized it, but he privatized it and then removed all of the photos of his investigation into who Charlie Kirk's killer was.
Now, that's not, that doesn't make any sense to me.
I don't understand that.
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I can't make sense of why you would just move to delete everything when I've reached out to you, as opposed to speaking to me about where you were, why you shot this video, and maybe sending me that video in general.
Now, I asked Phil Lyman three times via text whether or not he could help us, more importantly, identify the two individuals that were in the photo with his nephew or cousin, if you will.
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And he was kind of pretending to be confused about what photo in particular I was referring to, despite the fact that I sent it multiple times in the text chain.
And then finally, he said that he had no idea who those two individuals were at all.
I thought, that's interesting.
This is allegedly your nephew, cousin.
You guys are all chilling on this block around the same time.
I was going through the photos and I was going, hmm, I would just like to quickly identify that individual and check him off and just know where he was because, yeah, it looks to be about the same height.
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It's weird.
Oddly, this is when I say oddly, I mean, this has never happened in the history of all of our investigations.
No one emailed us to say that they knew either of those two individuals, neither the blonde that's with Shaner or the person that is wearing the blue hat that is with Shanner.
I said, that's weird.
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Nobody in the whole wide Candace Owens universe of investigation was making me believe maybe those two individuals are like, I don't know, from overseas.
And we were able to find that his face matched with photos from a blog post that was written in German that was basically entitled Anniversary Hike, 10 Years on Foot to the Sea.
The blog is about a group of 30-year-olds who are recreating a hike that they took together when they were 20.
Now, I don't even know if I'm saying his name right, Gurno Gernot.
I guess it is a common name in Austria.
And there are a few photos of him that were available.
We were able to find his face also matched up in a YouTube video for a company called Bearing Point, where he is seen with a group of people and is introduced as one of their software development teams, a member of one of their software development teams.
So let's take a listen to that clip from YouTube.
This is the Bearing Point office in Graz.
This is where Bearing Point's key technology competencies are concentrated.
This is one of our software development teams.
Some people are managers and some are not.
It doesn't matter.
It's all one team.
Very recently, he moved to Utah, according to his LinkedIn, which I hope doesn't get white.
So yesterday, we were kind of poking fun at the narrative that Phil Lyman seemed to be trying to spin, suggesting that quote unquote gothic girls might have been suspicious, that they maybe could have been responsible or aware at least that the shooting was going to occur.
That was a part of his story.
He saw these gothic girls and they seem unfazed in all of the chaos, you know?
And I thought that was an interesting way to describe someone as gothic.
Gratefully, Phil Lyman did send us footage of him after the shots rang out.
And I am saying shots plural for a reason because we will show you that video.
But first, I want to recap what specifically Phil said publicly about where he was when the shots rang out, because I vaguely remembered him painting a picture that he was outside.
That certainly seems to be what he told both Alex Jones and NewsNation that he was outside when the shot rang out.
And I'm not, by the way, none of these people are suspicious to me walking calmly because they're inside the building, not really sure what they heard, perhaps.
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And they're all kind of walking calmly out.
And I'm going to show you that footage.
And to be clear, you're going to see two girls that are simply wearing black.
By no stretch of an imagination, would I refer to these girls as gothic?
Actually, I think one of them is actually a guy, but they're wearing black, not dark makeup.
There's just black.
And he asks them, what I can hear audibly is he asks them, what was that?
So I don't know how certain he was that it could have been a shooting, but I'm going to let you watch it first.
And then we're going to try to clean up the audio.
Now, if you're listening to this on a podcast and you're not able to watch this, you might want to turn this down because it is visual.
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a look.
You can just sort of see everyone up top.
A couple of people were actually out there are ducking.
He was on the inside.
They said this was at 1223.
So he was inside, walked out.
And then he's going to start a conversation with two people that are just wearing black.
And then you see he continues.
If he did go on for like three minutes and he just sort of walks down and he engages in a conversation with those two girls and they answer him.
There's nothing here that seems to me to be controversial.
When he hears them say something about FU, it's before he has a conversation with him.
It does happen.
Take a listen.
Just trying to isolate this audio for you guys.
Those are the two girls talking about.
Actually, I think there was a guy.
Did you see where that came from?
It was right here, wasn't it?
Yeah.
So he says, did you see where that came from?
It seems like a normal conversation, kind of weird for me.
And there's a reason why I'm saying that to hone in on these two individuals and to say, like, gothic and to pretend that they were doing something that looked abnormal, given the fact that in the longer video, everyone up top is quite calm because I don't think they're really entirely sure what is happening.
And some of them are ducking because maybe they saw it because they were outside.
So I wanted to get to the bottom, as I said earlier, of who that second person was in the photo with his nephew, cousin, whatever you want to call him.
And we got just one hit.
And it was, honestly, it was from Belfast, North Ireland, no less.
Somebody sent us an email and he said, look, I conducted an interview, an internet-wide search of the person's face, and I only got one hit using technology.
And the hit was in Provo, Utah.
And he wrote to me that it was quite a coincidence because not only is the person in Provo for this one hit for this face, but also he's featured on a website pertaining to bees.
And he's like, Didn't you just do a thing saying that you had this weird thing about bees and you thought there, you know, there was something else going on?
And my goodness, you guys, I almost jumped when I learned that that website he was referring to, Buzzard and Bees, is a gothic underground in Provo.
Okay.
So this is the website.
It's a gothic underground of all things in Provo, the website Buzzard and Bees, and they're speaking about a gothic prom.
Now, quickly regarding our question pertaining to Mike Mitchell, right?
I was saying that it was pretty odd and obvious that they were trying to protect this detective, Mike Mitchell.
We also learned that he's a Boy Scout leader in the LDS church, but usually, if you have a long tenure as a police officer, you're just featured in a lot of articles.
And then we received some leads that I think have helped to clarify exactly what sort of a detective he was and maybe why he was not featured in a lot of articles because he was, as it appears to be, a undercover detective.
By all accounts, he was an online detective.
Apparently, if this is the correct Mike Mitchell and given the timeline of when he becomes an undercover detective, I have a strong hunch that it is the right individual because he says, you know, he was on the force for 25 years.
This individual began his career in 1999.
His job, Detective Mike Mitchell, was to create messages online to entrap pedophiles, okay?
And I'm not implying that, but I do actually thought it was quite interesting because when we cover George Zinn, who was the decoy boy that day, who then we find out is into pedophilia, right?
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And he gets arrested because he has children being sexually abused on his phone, absolutely despicable person.
It really made us wonder.
Again, I said this in a previous episode, whether or not he had been blackmailed in some capacity to play the decoy boy and to give the shooter time to get away.
I just find that to be interesting.
A lot of stuff happening right now, guys, and we are definitively getting closer to what took place on that day.
And we have a lot of leads that are coming in.
And I want to say that I want to refocus your attention and now open this up internationally because I have a hunch on who that goth kid is.
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Okay.
Somebody attended this goth prom in Provo, Utah.
Somebody overseas perhaps recognizes that person.
Like I said, I would venture a guess that he is not from Utah because I've never seen no hits come in.
Somebody saying I went to high school with him.
And yeah, that's what I want you to focus your attention on.
Again, reminding you guys, please do not send us, because we're such a small team, please do not send us TikTok videos and saying you should watch this or, you know, look at this theory.
Reserve that to simply tagging our accounts when you are on those specific apps.
And we will pick up from there.
We got to get into the Charlie Kirk legacy.
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I am starting to think, and let me know if you think this is crazy, but I'm starting to think that the assassination of Charlie Kirk was something akin to a regicide, right?
The assassination of a king to install a new ruler who the king would have never approved of, right?
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Maybe people around him counseling the king, people who perhaps betrayed him, because there are just too many things that I am finding out that are not adding up to me.
Okay, there are also, I do want to say this, too many first times leading up to this event.
Okay.
One person who emailed me said, Hey, I've been supplying bulletproof vests to Charler Dilly for all of these campus tours.
When I asked them why, they told me that Charlie wanted to go a different direction by getting an army vest instead, like a metal army vest, I believe, is what he says.
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And he said, This made no sense.
He made it understand it.
Okay, so Charlie decided that they decided to use a new company, even though I don't think he was actually wearing a bullet vest on that day.
Something else that is really bothering me just because I have done these campus tours is the question of why Charlie was set to do two events in Utah a mere 20 days apart.
Okay, he was supposed to do UVU, and then today was scheduled to do just 20 days later, USU.
Now, those two campuses are just under two hours apart if you're driving.
Why on earth would he schedule these events apart?
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It's not how Turning Point USA normally decides on their events.
You're going to do two stops in one state, they make it happen back to back because it doesn't make sense from a fuel perspective, from a traveling perspective, for you to go in and out of one state.
We've also received, or maybe I should say, maybe not odd, just something new, maybe.
We've also received a lot of tips that the hospital that Charlie was taken to is not the closest hospital, and it also would not have been the number one choice hospital for someone that was suffering from that sort of a wound.
He was taken to a smaller regional hospital that was a little farther away and was further away, and was also less equipped for the trauma that he suffered, that he was taken to Timpanogos Regional Hospital.
And also, something new is that that hospital had just announced that they had a brand new CEO and head surgeon named Andrew Zenger.
A lot of new stuff happening.
And to be clear, typically the states dictate the protocol, and you're required to, after you have a certain number of attendees at an event, you are required to have an ambulance on standby.
And I don't know Utah state law, but I also found that that weird that there wouldn't have been an ambulance on standby.
Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but seemed atypical to me.
Now, in terms of other things that were new, they announced on that same day that Andrew Zenger was announced as a new CEO.
Again, everything just feels a little too brand new to me.
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Then I speak to the individual who I told you guys that I recognized that I've taken down the cameras minute, what was it, minute four after Charlie was shot.
I asked about just his presence behind Charlie and plus the mysterious phone call that he was seen making in like minute three after Charlie was assassinated.
And he told me explicitly that they were trying something new that day.
Like it was something new.
Charlie's super ambitious.
And on the AV thing, they were trying something new and they wanted to be able to feed it back instantly to Arizona.
None of it makes sense to me because these events are typically live streamed.
Turning point USA knew that because Charlie was explicit.
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So my question is, why isn't Turning Point USA making any statements and shutting down this repeat attempt by Israel to lie and to pretend that towards the end, Charlie was just authoring love letters to Israel, giving them a perspective of here's how we can win the prophecy.
I think the same people that were pressuring Charlie are pressuring them.
In fact, I know that for a fact.
So they might need my help.
Okay.
I'm going to state this and I'm going to challenge Turning Point USA executives to issue a very clean statement saying that I am lying if this is not true.
About 48 hours before Charlie Kirk died, Charlie informed people at Turning Point, as well as Jewish donors and a rabbi that he had no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel cause outright.
None of you guys are behaving in the way that you should be behaving, okay?
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There is no way you are letting these lies fly unless, as I'm hearing, unless it is true that there was a big, big, big payday that was on the line.
And if Charlie radically stated that he was done with Israel, if Charlie said he had no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel cause because of, and I quote, Jewish donors, the behavior of Jewish donors, if he said that, yes or no, well, then I don't know, maybe, maybe some people didn't want to take that risk that he was going to, what, become Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson at Turning Point USA with all of those presences,
so much presence across college campuses.
Maybe they didn't want to take a chance.
You see, I'm just one person, so it's easy to just try to cancel my life and lie on me every second of every day.
But Turning Point USA, I think, got a little bit bigger than Charlie, and I'm no longer going to allow this lie in this narrative.
We're on stage right now and the Jewish donors are very angry about it, extremely angry about it.
But it feels good to know that in the end, truth is going to win.
So accept my challenge or don't.
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You know, when you end up in a world where like a couple of days before Charlie Kirk dies, someone like Laura Loomer is calling him anti-semi and she's funded by one of Charlie's donors, Bob Schillman, who then does a 180 and is now pretending that she is morally fighting me to stop researching into Charlie's murder.
You know exactly what kind of world you live in.
Politics sickens me.
It really does.
Everybody who has a little wish out there, oh, Candace, like jump into politics, I hate these people.
You know when people are lying and you can see the campaign now.
It's obvious, right?
All the same people making videos at the same time, posting at the same time, people that are accepting money through an agent of Israel somehow.
I've also got contracts, got contracts as well.
How these people are getting paid, quote unquote, 501c3s, dedicating themselves to the fellowship of Christians and Jews.
I mean, it is a really disturbing market.
But you would think that following an assassination, that people would tether themselves to reality, that they would say, I want to fight evil, and they would therefore commit themselves to truth.
And what they want, the one resource that these people want, are your children.
Simple thing that you can do.
Okay.
I know it takes a lot of adjustment.
I'm waking up and I'm homeschooling my kids.
And, but by the way, it's the most rewarding thing in the world.
Also, it just started this week.
So it's only been for two days, but it's incredible how happy it makes me knowing that I am doing something to buck the trend as we are slipping further into authoritarian rule.
Ashlyn Bigelow writes, advocating for a weekly Candace crash out, followed by, I'd like to apologize for my tone 10 seconds ago.
Yeah, I'm kind of, yeah, that's, I should do that.
You're right.
And I do, I should apologize for my tone maybe like five minutes ago.
I'm trying to be more conscious, but I am, oh man, I'm working on this anger.
I'm working on just really appreciating how fake and gay it all is.
We are still working to identify our goth suspect who's not the girl who is wearing black, but rather the person that was in the photos with nephew, cousin, Roderick.
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And we, if you know something, please send us tips at canniceowens.com.
We will have more for you tomorrow.
Some other stuff that I've been holding close to my chest about where we are hearing Charlie's wounds were.