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candace owens ▲ ● ▼		All right, you guys, happy Thursday.
		So I didn't know that it was a career goal of mine until it actually happened, but yesterday I made Jake Tapper of CNN say live on air, I will be coming for this wig today regarding Brigitte Macrone.
		He actually said the statement.
		It's just too absurd and so hilarious.
		He sat down to interview Macron's U.S. attorney, Tom Clare, and the result is fantastic.
		So we're going to go through that.
		Also, there is a clip going viral, if you have not been paying attention, of Jeffrey Epstein being asked specifically about Donald Trump and whether there were minors around them when they were together.
		And it's a very interesting clip, and I'm going to give you my take on it.
		Welcome back to Candace.
		So foremost, I wanted to let you guys know that yesterday when we opened the show with the gladiator clip, that was only done in half-gest.
		I was being quite serious.
		I do love gladiator films, no matter how historically precise they may or may not be, because of their themes, okay?
		And the theme, in case you have not seen the gladiator film or any of the gladiator films, is it's really about untouchable elites that are up in their boxes ruling over the Coliseum, right?
		Calling for violence, calling for wars, keeping the general public entertained, hoping that the public doesn't suddenly take notice that everything around them is in demise due to their political corruption.
		And then, as every single gladiator movie goes, there's one fighter, maybe a few fighters, who unexpectedly emerge from the Coliseum and they're victorious, despite the odds being fully stacked against them.
		And that's usually about the time in the gladiator film where there's this thumbs up or thumbs down moment that comes from the emperor, like kill the gladiator or let him live.
		And that moment's actually really important because suddenly the emperor and his corrupt advisors realize how fickle their power is, right?
		They're thinking, how is it that this slave that was supposed to die can be more respected than me?
		Look at me, I have a crown.
		Look at me, I'm the president of France.
		How could this person be more respected than me?
		Well, maybe it's because the slave has actually done something that's worthy of respect because having a title, an entitlement, means absolutely nothing.
		Now, for those of you that haven't seen the film and maybe missed the reference yesterday when Russell Crowe, who was the lead of that film, says, are you not entertained?
		Are you not entertained?
		And the cloud is sort of aghast.
		What's taking place in that moment is that he has figuratively slayed a dragon, right?
		Like there was, he somehow does this really violent kill, and the crowd is shocked by the violence.
		It's actually so violent that they're shocked out of their mode of just rooting for the entertainment of it all.
		And in that moment, they realize that that man is fighting for something more, okay?
		It's for him.
		It's for his family.
		And now the crowd is not rooting for him to die, but they're actually rooting for him to live.
		And that poses, of course, a natural threat to the political order, the political elite, the crowd suddenly being awakened that there could be something else, something more than just the immediate satisfaction and the entertainment that's being provided to them, right?
		It's a threat.
		Like that is actually a threat to a political institution.
		The crowd rooting for something outside of their establishment is a threat.
		And maybe the crowd starts thinking, wait a minute, why are we following or listening to these worthless elites, these worthless politicians, when everything around us is so obviously crashing down?
		Our food is rotting.
		In this case, our food is poison.
		The wars are never ending.
		Why do our sons have to die in battles?
		Because these people vote for never-ending wars that their sons are never going to fight in.
		I actually believe that we are in that moment right now, okay?
		And we are recognizing that the global system is rigged.
		All of this is somehow one big show.
		We know that there is definitively more than us than them, and that that's obviously a threat to them.
		So how have they maintained so much power over us?
		The Brigitte McCrow story is, of course, naturally entertaining, but it is, in fact, about more than entertainment.
		That's really the crucial part.
		Like it's us uniting.
		We're winning because that is what happens when you just keep telling the truth, okay?
		A lie cannot defeat the truth.
		If it's a fair game, a lie cannot defeat the truth.
		And Brigitte, of course, would have obviously defeated me outside of the court system.
		She would have defeated me in the court of public opinion if the truth was on his side, but it's not.
		So the Macrones do what the elites do.
		They want their friends in the media to help smear me.
		Case in point, yesterday after organizing this surprise filing, like calling up the Financial Times, all elite publications, we're going to tell you about this.
		We're not going to tell her lawyer.
		Believe it or not, they took him a step further when the Macron's lawyer, Tom Locke, organized an appearance on CNN With Jake Tapper.
		Because everybody knows we should totally trust Jake Tapper.
		Totally believe him when he says he didn't realize that Biden had dementia until, you know, he wrote his book and wanted to profit off of Biden's dementia.
		These people are absolute clowns, but it is worthy of watching this interview.
		It was spectacular.
	I mean, the fact that I accidentally got Jake Tapper to say on air in a very serious professional tone, I will be coming for this wig today, it's just fantastic because I made that joke on my Instagram and then he read it out loud in a serious tone.
	Watch this.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		French President Emmanuel Macron and his wife Brigitte are suing right-wing podcaster and conspiracy theorist Candace Owens.
		The defamation lawsuit filed today in Delaware claims that Owens has engaged in a, quote, relentless and unjustified smear campaign against the couple.
		The complaint goes on to allege that Owens spread outrageous conspiracy theories.
		France's first, that France's first lady could be a man, that the Macrones are related and committing incest, and that the Macrones, the couple, is being controlled.
		Those are deranged claims.
		In response to the filing, Owens posted a screenshot of a news story about the lawsuit on her Instagram page and wrote, I will be coming for this wig today.
		Stay tuned.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		I just love that.
unidentified		She wrote, quote, I will be coming for this wig today.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Stay tuned.
		That's, I mean, there are elements here that are just plainly entertaining.
		But then it gets kind of even more bizarre because Tom Clare, of course, is there to sort of meaningfully assert that there is just so much evidence, extensive evidence, he says, quote unquote, extensive evidence that they apparently submitted to me, which you guys know they didn't, which disproved the idea that Brigitte was a man.
		And of course, Tom Clare is lying.
		His goal, he has to lie.
		This is all a PR strategy.
		And Jake, who is fully on Tom Clare's side, but he has to like, I don't know, embody the pretense of an actual journalist and not just a bad faith state actor, accidentally exposes Tom Clare as a liar about this extensive evidence by just asking him for an example of that extensive evidence.
		Take a listen.
unidentified		After we put facts and information in front of her, black and white, multiple times.
unidentified		What?
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		Like her birth, like the first lady's birth certificate?
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		Like what kind of facts?
unidentified		Yeah, we have laid out extensive evidence in our complaint demonstrating that she was born a woman, she's always been a woman, and the allegations of CIA control conspiracy and the incest and all the other things are demonstrably false.
		Putting aside the fact that they are all inherently implausible, what you said at the outset is obviously really important.
		In our system, if you're making an inherently implausible allegation, the standard is higher.
		You have to come forward with better evidence if you're going to say it.
		She has none of it.
		All she's done is mock them and ridiculed them and repeated it.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		He tried so hard to wiggle out of that one, but people are going to call him out because he's like, no, no, no, like what?
		Like, what is the example of the evidence?
		He's like, we wrote to them that she's definitely a woman and it's implausible that she's not.
		So we totally got this thing.
		We're totally going to win because we have asserted that it's implausible that Brigitte was born a man and totally trust us, bro.
		That he is being honest.
		That was their evidence.
		Their evidence that they presented to us as we presented to the public was trust me, bro.
		Trust me, bro.
		She's not a bro.
		That was it.
		There was no documents, no answer to our basic yes or no questions, nothing.
		Just like, stop saying that, please.
		Don't do that.
		Or you're going to be in big trouble.
		Then the interview just gets embarrassing because he starts doing that thing where they're making an emotional plea, like just to our hearts.
		Like, oh, look at this.
		This couple is, they're so helpless.
		And it's just, this whole thing is just sad.
		Like, as if we're speaking about toddlers, like innocent toddlers that are being bullied at school and not a totally perverted couple that's on the world stage and has a lot of power, so much power that they can call for war and call for people to die if they want to.
		If they get angry, they could just send people to war.
		Yeah, take a listen to him making the emotional plea.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		So your lawsuit alleges, quote, every time the Macron's leave their home, they do so knowing that countless people have heard and many believe these vile fabrications.
		It is invasive, dehumanizing, and deeply unjust.
		Some people out there might think, really, the first couple of France can't leave their home in France without worrying that people believe the deranged nonsense from this American podcaster?
unidentified		Yeah, what people don't really understand, and a lot of people can go on TV and talk about the president, talk about the first lady, you know, pundits can get on and talk about them, but what people forget is these are human beings.
		These are a married couple.
		They have a social life.
		They have a private life together.
		They have the same feelings and the same hurt from these sorts of defamatory statements as anybody would.
		And it does have a material impact on them.
		It is, you know, it's incredibly upsetting to have this said year after year.
		And this sort of falsehood is a cancer.
		And it metastasizes into, obviously, the media, but it also metastasizes into other circles that they're running in.
		They get asked about it, of course, even in the circles that they run in.
		They get asked about these campaigns, and they shouldn't have to go through that.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Aw, I kind of feel bad for Tom Clare.
		Like, that's a tough job.
		You got to get out there and just make up a bunch of BS on the spot.
		And you actually have no evidence.
		Like, the best thing to do would be, here's the evidence.
		We submitted to Candace Owens.
		So he's got to be like, okay, forget the evidence.
		What about your heart?
		Is there a heart out there?
		We're all people who have big hearts.
		Don't you feel sad?
		What people forget, he literally says this, what people forget is that they're human beings.
		Oh, is that what we're doing in the quorum?
		This better be televised.
		Okay, forget the fact that we have no evidence.
		What people forget is that they are human beings.
		And now they, okay, they have to leave their house and people are asking them for evidence, which would be so easy to give, but we're not going to give it because we just said she is a woman.
		So just believe us, trust us, bro.
		Trust us, bro.
		She's not a bro.
		It's incredible.
		And finally, they really arrive at the correct conclusion of what they're trying to do here.
		The real threat, what the elites always do.
		They go mask down in this moment when they share this exchange.
		Take a listen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		You're asking for punitive damages.
		How much money do you want?
		And do you want her to apologize?
unidentified		Well, we'd love an apology, of course.
		A court can't order her to apologize.
		And based on her conduct, especially today, we don't expect her to do anything other than double down.
		We'll put forward our damage claim at trial, but if she continues to double down between now and the time of trial, it'll be a substantial award.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		Well, can you give me an idea?
		Are we talking about, I mean, the last time you were involved in something, the settlement was $787.5 million.
		That was Fox News for their many, many lies about Dominion software, Fox News.
		But are you looking for that kind of settlement?
		She doesn't have $787.5 million.
unidentified		Well, you look at what happened with Alex Jones.
		Juries understand that there is an inherently large value to somebody's reputation.
		And if you're going to say these vile things and if you're going to repeat them to a significant audience, as she has, she has over 5 million followers.
		And her lies have metastasized into actual publications.
		So we see other publications that pick up on it and they report on it.
		And when you ask them, when we reached out to them and say, what's your, they're detailed in the complaint, we've seen Newsweek, New York Post, and others have pointed to her as the source of their reporting on this.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		But they're asserting it as if it's true based on what Candace Owens is saying?
unidentified		They repeat what Candace has said, and they cite her as a source.
		And so they fall back on her, but she is at the epicenter of this campaign.
		That's why we picked her.
		That's why we're going for her is because she is the one whose lies are metastasizing and spreading.
		And she, under our system of defamation, is liable for all those republications.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so he's obviously avoiding the point that my entire series was based on a book that was done by Xavier Poussard, who is a journalist, a respectable journalist in France who has not been sued for defamation.
		So he has to be like, well, you know, the New York Post mentioned her, because it's going to be, it's a very big question that's going to be asked in this courtroom.
		Hey, if this is defamation, why don't you sue in your home court and win against the journalists that brought this entire thing forward, which inspired the series?
		That's a pretty obvious question.
		He's like, well, you know, Newsweek said Candace said it.
		And forget the book.
		Forget the fact that, okay, it's all about PR, but who cares?
		What is the actual goal?
		And here's the big point going mass down.
		The goal is to bankrupt me.
		That's how these elites think.
		They think about we have money and money is power.
		How they have always thought is we built this corrupt system.
		So if we can't beat you the fair way, if we can't beat you in the court of public opinion with facts, we're going to drag you through the mud.
		The process is going to be the pain and we're going to try to destroy you financially, right?
		We'll keep this going.
		We've got unlimited funds.
		That's why elites love courts and expensive lawyers, because the little guys, what are you going to do?
		How are you going to defend yourself against these people?
		This is the point, by the way, in the gladiator films where typically the elites and the politicians order soldiers to just go and kill the gladiator's entire family so he has nothing to live for anymore.
		It's the very same concept.
		The process is the pain.
		We will leave you with nothing for challenging our system of lies and corruption.
		How dare you show the world proof that we are a moral pervert?
		How dare you think that we have to answer to you that exposition?
		How dare you?
		You are going to pay financially because we have unlimited funds.
		You know, we've got the bankers with us.
		What's kind of amazing to see is despite all of this, like no one left or right is buying that, right?
		He has, he's on CNN.
		That's a left-leaning site.
		This is on CNN's platform.
		And you go under the comments on YouTube and people are calling Jake Tapper out.
		They're going, oh, you couldn't even answer basic questions about what evidence there was.
		You just want to bankrupt her.
		Here, we can just scroll live here at some of these comments.
		Upset with Candace and not the person who dated a 14-year-old when they were 39.
		Oh, yeah, hmm.
		Ignore that we totally admitted that, which by the way, I want to also say what's incredible about that admission is if you follow the series, remember, you can go back and find these articles.
unidentified		Initially, they told the public he was 17.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Now on paper, they're saying he was 15.
		And what are they going to try to do here?
		Oh, they're going to be like, okay, well, yeah, he was 14 when he was in the play, but you have no proof that we didn't begin this affair until like a couple of months later when he turned 15.
		This is actually their argument.
		Like they're already admitting that they are public liars.
		But let's keep reading some more of these comments.
		Again, this is CNN left-leaning.
		This person writes, okay, but didn't Macron just lose a defamation case in the French courts over this?
		Oh, yeah.
		People aren't dumb.
		People are not dumb.
		Wow, the comment section doesn't seem to buy what this lawyer is selling.
		Poor Tom Claire.
		Tough job.
		Genuinely, Tom.
		That's a tough job to have to go out there and to assume the public is too stupid to have watched the series and recognize that something very real is there.
		And we presented tons of evidence when your clients did not present any evidence other than, trust me, bro, she's not a bro, to the contrary.
		Anyway, the point that I'm making here is that common sense, literally sense among us commoners is the biggest threat to the establishment.
		Common sense, why go through all of this grief, hiring attorneys overseas, calling up the Financial Times, not even serving before you try to get these articles going, saying that you are suffering so much grief when you could just answer basic questions.
		Okay.
		Not even, you don't even need to supply blood here.
		Just show some photos, which would debunk this.
		Show us you raising your kids.
		Common sense also.
		Where is your brother to defend you?
		Could you imagine if my sister, my brother, I'm going through something that they could easily just come right out and do one interview and dispel all this?
		And they didn't do it for some reason.
		Like, oh, they're just so private that they're going to allow me to suffer.
		My argument here is I'm suffering and I'm close enough to my sibling that I'm alleging that this person was at my inauguration, even though I didn't even say hi to that person who I'm alleging is my brother, as we showed on a previous episode.
		Like there only was like, this person in the background might be my brother.
		You want us to believe that years of this going on, multiple lawsuits filed, and you wouldn't just walk out with your brother and have your brother do one interview and say, yeah, here's some photos of us growing up.
		You guys all are terrible for making this allegation against my super hot Claudia Schiffer looking sister.
		You want us to believe that?
		Again, common sense isn't buying it.
		Also, why won't your allegedly three children just post some photos of them being raised by you, right?
		These are my three children.
		That's the proof.
		Okay, why is it, it's kind of strange that actually only of the three children, only one has ever publicly defended you by saying these rumors are ridiculous.
		Now that child is suspiciously quiet, I think since her office got raided by the Fed, maybe because you control the Fed, something seems to be going on there.
		But that same person, Tiffan, is willing to post photos of her late father and her growing up.
		These are Tiffon's photos that she posted on Instagram this past Father's Day.
		Look at this.
		I don't know what this says in French, but I know that it's a Father's Day post about her heart.
		I don't know what Mon Leon means, to be honest.
		But she posted this.
		It's her and it's her father and them growing up, the person that we confirmed.
		There's another photo of her with her father.
		Isn't it just stunning?
		If you really cared about your mom, wouldn't you just go, here's my mom growing up?
		Everybody stop the nonsense.
		They won't do it.
		Like I said, we're awake to that.
		You're not going to send a lawyer onto Jake Tapper's platform to make us think that that just is all so crazy.
		It's deranged.
		Don't even look.
		No, what's deranged is not just disputing it very simply when you have the opportunity, when you get in multiple opportunities to do so.
		And I will say this, things certainly seem to be backfiring for the couple now.
		I told you they're going to be calling this the Macron effect.
		The Streisen effect is going to be now called the Macron effect because the series was already viral in the West when we did this.
		Now it's viral in the East hemisphere as well.
		I mean, I'm sure beating your husband while descending from a plane in Singapore didn't help their cause any.
		But following that up with an unprecedented lawsuit against a mother in America regarding your wife's genitals, yeah, now people are going, well, okay, something's obviously going on.
		This is not just about some podcaster lying.
		They're trying to cover their tracks in a way that doesn't even make, there's got to be some truth here.
	And now everybody's watching this series.
	I got a clue into this, I'll ended this yesterday when a commenter wrote this under our episode, Candace, I live in Guangzhou, China.
	Your special on Mr. and Mr. Macrone has gone viral here too.
	Congrats, everyone knows, which is amazing.
	That person is commenting on that.
	And then we went to go look into it.
	And sure enough, this is a headline in China about the series.
	We also saw in Taiwan, there was a news clip about the series.
unidentified		watch this.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		You are officially a very goofy man, Brigitte.
		I love that.
		I love you, Taiwan.
		I love you.
		Then we've got also in Saudi Arabia.
		Somebody tagged me and let me know that also in the Middle East.
		Somebody tagged me in the UAE this morning.
		Then we found this clip, this news clip out of Saudi Arabia.
unidentified		Take a listen.
unidentified		Becoming Brigitte.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		I love that.
		I just love this so much.
		This is exactly what they deserve by thinking that they were going to suppress my speech with threats and with an in the absence of any truth.
		Like they were just that powerful.
		They were going to come here and be like, now you better listen to us and shut up.
		Of course, I am only going to get louder.
		But my favorite thing, by the way, is that we sold our Time Magazine parody t-shirts of Man of the Year, which got an honorable mention in a lawsuit because somehow they think parody is like grounds for a lawsuit completely crazy.
		But Time Magazine, the actual Time magazine, then included a point about our t-shirts in their article.
		It reads, the complaint argues that Owens monetized her allegedly defamatory claims about the Macron's, including by selling merchandise such as a t-shirt displaying Brigitte Macron on fake Time magazine Man of the Year cover.
		Love that for us.
		I absolutely love that.
		That's iconic.
		Getting Time Magazine to cover our parody Time Magazine t-shirts is simply iconic.
		And of course, they are still available on our website, candaceowens.com.
		Much more to come.
		Much more on both Emmanuel and Brigitte.
		So stay tuned.
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		Okay, actually, right before we get into this Trump story, I also want to say that what was incredible here is, okay, there's like a 200-page lawsuit filed by the president of France, wherein his first ladyman admits that their relationship began, even though they tried to sell it that he was 17 when he was running for president the first time around.
		Now they're admitting that he was just 15, which still is not exactly the truth.
		By the way, that would have been a crime in France, the age of consent in an environment where an adult has power over the child, like just a student and a teacher, is 18.
		But with all of that documented, of course, the main takeaway of this 200-page lawsuit for Zionists who hate me because I won't support Israel was that Macrone wrote, I don't know why there's some of the lawyers put this, that I was a dual citizen.
		I'm not kidding.
		Take a look.
		It was all over all the Zionist accounts who absolutely hate me because I have this crazy idea that we shouldn't mass murder Palestinian children and mass murder Christians off Bibiana and Yahoo.
		I know it's a crazy take.
		It sounds anti-Semitic when you say you can't kill everybody just because you want to.
		So they hate me.
		And so they just were like pushing this, trying to make it go viral.
	Breaking.
	It's been revealed that Candace Owens is a dual citizen of the UK.
	She talks all day about how people shouldn't be loyal to two countries while she actively holds two citizenships.
	Again, this is from the Trust Me Bro lawsuit.
	So they didn't, they just trusted the bro, right?
	Avi Yameni also followed that up.
	And he actually got fact-checked.
	Or was it actually, it was EOL that got fact-checked, but Avi followed it up.
	Yeah, you can see the fact-check on that.
	He writes, after all her screeching about dual citizens being foreign agents, turns out Candice is a dual citizen of one of the most Muslim populated countries in Europe.
	She should be forced to declare herself a paid propagandist for Keir Starmer.
	And of course, never to be left out of the mix, Awesome Jew wrote that out as well, tweeted it, breaking.
	Candice Owens has been exposed as a dual UK-US citizen, despite preaching that dual citizens shouldn't be allowed in the media.
	You got to know they're just like on one big group chat.
	It's like the Zionist group chat.
	I'm like, oh, anything you can find about this girl?
	They're just so obvious.
	They're so obvious.
	And then Ian Miles Chong, our resident, Tubby, he's from Singapore, Malaysia, or Tubby Malaysian, right?
	Candace Owens is a dual citizen by her own logic.
	All her political opinions must be considered suspect.
	Even stop and pause and think past their Zionist rage.
	They would have just had common sense.
	You can't just become a citizen of a country that you don't live in.
	I mean, I'm sure Israel does that for like the people.
	You can't, in most places, there's a rule that you've got to live there to become a citizen.
	And the UK wouldn't even qualify to apply for a citizenship.
	My husband and I have lived here in the United States since we got married.
	Never lived there, didn't have a child there, nothing.
	We have no property there at all.
	We've got family there.
	We've got friends there.
	But our lives are here.
	And we went through six laborious years of getting him to become a citizen of America, which we announced his American citizenship when it finally went through six years later.
	And so this was just stupid, but I just love to just show you how petty Zionists are.
	I always say, like, you know, if Zionism is such a moral political philosophy, why does it require so much lying?
	Like, why do they have to lie and smear and libel everybody to get them on board with them murdering people?
	I mean, because it's just like a murderous ideology, I think, actually, an ethnocentric ideology.
	But don't get me started on the Ziobot train.
	Okay.
	Anyways, in more important news, there is this clip.
	Jeffrey Epstein's 2010 deposition is making the rounds.
	It's going viral because it pertains, obviously, to President Trump.
	And the questions that are being asked of Jeffrey Epstein are of interest.
	I'll let you take a listen.
unidentified		Have you ever had a personal relationship with Donald Trump?
		What do you mean by personal relationships?
		Have you socialized with him?
		Yes, sir.
		Yes?
		Yes, sir.
		Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?
		Though I'd like to answer that question at least today, I'm going to have to assert my fifth, sixth, and 14th Amendment right assert.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so a couple of things.
		I actually would like to get further context on why that's from 2010 since he had kind of done his deal, I believe in 2009.
		Maybe it was right before he did his deal.
		Maybe by the time it was done, it was thereafter, or they made him, you know, subject to some of these interviews.
		I'm not sure.
		But right off of the bat, this is not a smoking gun.
		Yes, it is extremely odd that Epstein would invoke the Fifth Amendment after answering the smaller questions.
		Like he said, are you no Trump?
		Yes.
		Trump.
		Yes, yes, yes, yes.
		And what do you mean?
		Could you clarify that question?
		But then suddenly he invokes the fifth on the matter of minors having been around them.
		Yeah, that is strange.
		As I pointed out earlier, though, it is very likely, as we have seen in other clips of him, he said his lawyers told him to just plead the fifth all the way through, right?
		Plead the fifth all the way through, particularly on the topic of minors, since that's what he's being charged with, right?
		Activity with minors.
		But that doesn't mean that Trump was involved with those minors.
		We actually should keep a cool head about that because as my team is pointing out to me, if you ask anybody on my team right now, like, were you around Candace and Meyers?
		The answer is yes.
		We're around my toddlers all day, every day.
		I work from home.
		They're around them.
		Doesn't mean that because Epstein had a minor with him, that Trump knew that that individual was a minor.
		And I want to remind you guys, especially my newer audience, if you have not gone back and watched our episode regarding the Matt Gaetz story, like why Matt Gaetz was suddenly not allowed to be in the administration at all and why the Department of Justice feared Matt Gaetz.
		It is an incredible story, incredible story that, of course, for no reason at all, involves blackmail in Israel because every good political story in America does of why they were like, no, this guy cannot be a member of your administration.
		I'm sure like the Adelson shut that down immediately, the Adelsons.
		But it's an incredible story.
		And one element that you learn is that there are people who have positions in government just for the sake of being able to collect IDs or print IDs.
		And Matt Gaetz kind of gets involved accidentally because this guy, who I think is pretty obvious, was probably trying to collect blackmail on people that had power and people that had wealth in Florida and who had access to these IDs was literally printing fake IDs for women.
		So Matt Gaetz thought that this woman, this young woman that's mentioned in the story, is not a minor because she has a totally real, legitimate Florida ID.
		Again, if that's confusing to you, you have to go back and watch the Matt Gaetz episode.
		Here's, it's called Another Blackmail Operation and full credit, which I mentioned in that episode to Village Crazy Lady on X. I actually love her.
		She's hilarious.
		And she's the one that did a whole thread on it.
		And then I based my episode because I was going, this just can't be a real story.
		So there's an element of that.
		Just because Jeffrey Epstein has younger women around him, we don't know any context doesn't mean that Trump knew that person.
		You could bring somebody as a plus one.
		You could have a party and you're really going to pay attention to every single guest and card them, especially when you're at Mar-a-Lago.
		Who knows?
		We're given no further context there.
		But on the other side, I want to say this.
		The reason that people think it's a smoking gun is because of the absolute disaster of a way that the Trump administration dealt with these files altogether, right?
		This is the unforced error of how they went about this entire thing doesn't make people feel that they can trust them at all, right?
		Of course, you are going to assume the worst when they are justifying or gaslighting their fans.
		They're gaslighting the people that have stood with them.
		You know, oh, then you're just not even a real Trump fan.
		Get out of here.
		We don't even want you as a supporter.
		It is them that forced this outcome by not just being upfront and honest, right?
		Let's not forget the Wall Street Journal came out and they said a couple of days ago that they have a source in the administration which confirmed to them that Trump was told at a routine briefing back in May by Pam Bondi that he was in the files, right?
		And I'm going to say I tend to believe the Wall Street Journal here because when the Wall Street Journal lies, as Trump proved a few days before this, he will be the first person to tweet.
		They are lying.
		I didn't buy their story about the letter, Epstein letter, or whatever it was.
		They didn't even show the letter.
		And what did Trump do?
		Within 48 hours, he sued them.
		Within five minutes, he tweeted at Rupert Murdoch.
		I'm going to sue you, blah, blah, blah, blah.
		This is absolutely outrageous.
		So when Trump is lied on, he's the first person to take on the press.
		They even actually ejected the Wall Street journal reporter from press briefings because he was so outraged by that piece, right?
	He didn't respond to this allegation that there was this press briefing in May and that Pam Bondi alerted him to the fact that he was in the Epstein files.
	Now, if you put that, if you accept that to be true, or I think that it's reasonable that there could be some veracity to this, then it finally makes sense why he did a 180, right?
	Why the administration was printing out biners and having girls pose with them.
	And then suddenly we're like, why is everyone, is everybody talking about Epstein?
	Who cares about Epstein?
	Because maybe Trump was like, okay, me being mentioned in this file is something that I don't even want to deal with.
	Doesn't mean implicate that he did something wrong with a minor.
	But yeah, of course, if you're going, this is going to be an absolute firestorm.
	Who knows?
	Like I said, it could be maybe Jeffrey Epstein gave money to Miss Universe or had it funded and was having girls that were underage running through that somehow.
	Who knows?
	And maybe Trump genuinely did not know about that until Pam Bondi.
	And I think that kind of lets us know that he was a bit shocked because they were all fine.
	I'm sure if he knew he was in that binder or knew that he was somehow involved with Epstein, he wouldn't have allowed them to go outside and take photos with phase one binders in February.
	So Trump is surprised by this.
	He would have been surprised in May when she said that, which means he likely was not involved with miners.
	Or right from the jump, he would have said, nope, no binders.
	Don't promise anything.
	I'm involved in a really bad way.
	So I think they made a lot of blunders here, a lot of PR blunders, which seems to be the name of the game.
	I think he didn't want to deal with the headache and now he's got an even bigger headache.
	And now people are assuming the absolute worst because honesty is always the best policy.
	If she had said that to him in that meeting, he would have said, what?
	And then she briefed him.
	Again, we are obviously surmising here.
	He could have gone right out and been like, you know, I was just told by Pam Bondi, I don't know who's in these binders.
	I don't know why we're, why I'm featuring this, but my name's in there.
	I mean, I've been pretty forthcoming.
	I've been on the plane with him as people, you know, I flew up from Teterborough, but I have no idea in what context I'm being mentioned.
	And I'm telling her, release it all.
	If he had done that and gotten in front of it, he wouldn't be in this predicament today.
	Like I said, honesty is always the best policy.
	People are smart.
	There's common sense.
	We all sense something was not right.
	And gaslighting us and then telling us, well, you're not even allowed to be a Trump fan is not the way to dig yourself out of it.
	It was just wrong.
	I also want to point to this, or make this last point rather.
	What's also stunning to consider is that somebody leaked that to the Wall Street Journal.
	Again, unforced error by Trump by locking arms with never Trumpers.
	Your entire cabinet is filled with people that hate you.
	Okay.
	They've been very clear about hating you.
	They didn't even support you up until the last second.
	They were like, no, we're with DeSantis, anything but you.
	Okay.
	For the last eight years.
	And suddenly at the very end, when you're the only person left, they're willing to give you money to donate to host fundraisers for you.
	And you gave these people positions in your cabinet, like automatically.
	Common sense.
	I don't care what you feel about Mark Levin today.
	You should be like, you were the face of the Never Trump movement, my dude.
	So no, I'm not going to tell people to watch your show.
	You probably don't have my best interests at heart.
	That would be common sense.
	Keep the people there that fought with you from the very beginning and just don't trust the people around you that are never trumpers that have suddenly done a 180.
	But he didn't do that.
	He welcomed them in, right?
	So he wanted to be viewed as magnanimous.
	I don't know what his point was in this.
	And what they've done is they have proved that they still hate him.
	They've infiltrated him.
	Never Trumpers are now leaking stuff.
	The very Zionists that he is falling over himself to placate are now trying to take him down from the inside.
	So, you know, there is some poetic justice in that.
	Stay loyal to the people that have been loyal to you.
	Don't reward bad behavior.
	I don't know.
	What do I know?
	You know, what do I know?
	Probably, probably nothing.
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	All right, you guys, what are you thinking about all this?
	I know some of you guys didn't New York.
	So like, Candace, he's definitely guilty.
	I really, I'm telling you my vibe.
	I've been around Trump many times.
	I just cannot get on board with the idea that Trump is in to minors.
	If he is in any way trapped up, it would have been in a very Matt Gates-esque situation.
	And since Israel was involved with Matt Gates and Jeffrey Epstein was definitely involved with Israel, even though Pam Bondi doesn't know, but we know, I would just say that it would be something like that.
	Again, go back, watch that episode.
	Jennifer Kay writes, for your legal response, go get them, Candace.
	Thank you so much for that contribution.
	Also, thank you to the many of you that went and ran to CandiceOwens.com and subscribed just to like, you know, support us and support independent journalists that don't have the entire state clutting on our behalf.
	I was saying to my team today, it's like we've never been more loved by the people and more hated by the state.
	And I think that's a fantastic place to be.
	And that means that you've arrived at some truth.
	Mercy writes, Candice, longtime listener and follower of your work, but this is my first time catching you live.
	So I'm celebrating with a super chat towards the funding of your countersuit against the Macrone dudes.
	Thank you so much, Mercy.
	Exactly what I'm saying is there's just more of us than them.
	And so like, I get it.
	They have unlimited funds.
	They have Rothschilds behind them, the Midas Touch, whatever you want to call it.
	But there's just four of us.
	And so we can't be scared of financial threats, which is all they have.
	VYV writes, or I think it's Viv, they also might not be releasing the files because they want to keep the blackmail leverage for themselves.
	I wonder how many reached out after their publicized statements of wanting to release everything.
	Yeah, I've seen that angle cropping up.
	People say, oh, yeah, well, you know, Trump now knows where the dirt is and that's what he's doing.
	He's using it to his advantage.
	I don't think so.
	I really don't think so.
	I think that he, the more likely story, and again, I'm basing this off the fact that he didn't counter the story, is that he was mentioning it and probably just didn't want to deal with the headache and was like, let's just move on from that.
	And it was the wrong call.
	It just was the wrong call.
	This person writes, you're officially an international menace.
	And Arabic news station covered you today.
	I sat there convincing my 65-year-old father that Brigitte Macron is indeed a man.
	I felt like I was the crazy one.
	Love from the UAE.
	Okay, that is amazing.
	And the reality is you just have to get them to watch one episode of the Coming Brigitte series.
	Like I say, it is because there is so much proof to the contrary that this caught fire.
	It's the other way that it could have.
	I was just like, you know, she kind of just looks like a dude and she sits like a dude.
	She's a dude.
	I would have just completely beclowned myself.
	People would have been like, why is Candice dedicating five hours to this?
	There's no proof here other than Candice has a vibe.
	And it would have failed.
	Brigitte would have won in the court of public opinion, but that is not the case.
	Everybody knows that.
	Everybody who's watched the series knows that.
	So if you have not watched the series or if you're trying to convince somebody that it's true, just get them to watch the first episode and they will not be able to look away.
	Nobody comes out of that thinking that Brigitte McCrone was born a woman.
	I'll tell you that for free.
	And we're going to do a Becoming Brigitte season too, because that is exactly what happens when you try to bully me with finances.
	I don't have that thing that people have, like that commitment to money where money can enslave me.
	I've just never felt that way.
	I just think it's ridiculous that people will do and say things for money that they know not to be true.
	I don't have an allegiance to money.
	I have an allegiance to the future of the world, which my children are going to have to grow up in.
	W writes, I don't need any proof to look at that woman and know it's a man.
	Forget any proof.
	They are walking proof.
	It's clearly someone who is trans.
	Almost insulting to the trans community, how they refuse to openly admit it.
	You do have to appreciate the implicit argument that they're making here that being trans is defamatory.
	Like that's, they're going to have to make an argument in court, right?
	Like just the idea of being trans is naturally defamatory, which is going to be a steep hill for him to climb, given he ran on like LGBTQ and love, and he has pictures of Macrone, like, hugging people that do look like they might identify as LGBTQIA plus.
	Lune writes, when it's exposed undeniably to the rest of those out there that they are in denial of the fact that our world leaders are sadistic pedophiles, what happens next?
	I think a good place to be that many people are recognizing that we do in fact have way too many perverts in power.
	Whether you came to that conclusion after BuzzFeed, before they filed for bankruptcy, or I think they filed for bankruptcy, that expose of the CIA and how many CIA agents were caught in positions like they were trying to seduce a child and yet they didn't get fired.
	If you haven't read that piece, you should.
	Whether it's this Brigitte Macrone ever-shifting storyline with Macrone and the orbit of people that are around them, the conversation happening globally is what's most important.
	What happens next is you have to leave those things to God.
	I truly do believe that the truth is enough, and we win because of that.
	Oscar Truillot writes, subpoena Jean-Michel to show up in court at the same time that Brigitte shows up.
	Come for that wig.
	I got to try to see if I can get any more people like Jake Tapper to say, come for that wig in a very serious tone.
	She's coming for that wig.
	Later today, she'll be coming for that wig.
	It's just amazing.
	Mind your Irides, Trump was selected to say the quiet part out loud.
	Quote, the media is fake and your politicians are corrupt.
	He will ruin the country and the establishment will say, quote, we told you so, divide and conquer.
	We'll see what happens with Trump.
	I hope he just is somebody who cares about him.
	Maybe it's Baron Trump.
	Maybe Baron Trump will be the hero just tells him, you know, you have been got.
	Like the people in your cabinet don't like you.
	They're loving this.
	I hate the fact that I'm so committed to exposing people who are perverts in power that I am covering these Epstein files, knowing that there are people who are not, they don't have their heart in a genuine place with this.
	They don't want the elites to be exposed.
	They just want to see Trump go down because they've hated him since the very beginning, right?
	I hate the fact that those people who are motivated by the wrong reasons are speaking about the Epstein files.
	But the more important thing is that we keep discussing them because it does matter.
	EH writes, Kennis, I used to listen to Jake Tapper daily.
	Don't come for me.
	All good.
	Traded him out for real journalists like you a while back.
	Thank you for all that you do and your bravery.
	Stay safe.
	Slay the dragons.
	You know what?
	I used to be on the left.
	You know, I believed the news.
	Forgetting whether you're left or right, I think it's normal to believe the mainstream news and to not think that they are in lockstep with the state trying to harm us and keep us warm with each other.
	We all get there at our own time.
	That's why I don't take it personal.
	I always say I am a very acquired taste.
	It takes time.
	It just takes time.
	Lastly, somebody writes, what are your thoughts about Laura Loomer saying on Patrick Bette David that America first is Israel first?
	Also, I want to nominate you to replace and be our next Hulk Hogan.
	Rest in peace to Hulk Hogan.
	America first is Israel First.
	I don't know based on your comment here if she's making the argument that in order to be America first, you have to be Israel first, which would just be an asinine statement.
	I've seen people make it.
	It's asinine every time it's said because that implies that you don't have national sovereignty, that you can't exist without locking arms with a state that's just like committing a genocide in broad daylight.
	If that's her point, then it's asinine.
	That's all I'll say about that.
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	Again, poisoning us all the time and getting away with it for a very long time because we've all been seized by the narratives, believing that the state just wants us to live.
	That's why they want to give us 80 vaccines.
	That's why they're dropping the fluoride in our water.
	They just love us so much that they created Monsanto.
	They love us so much that they did all these things.
	Yeah, Shot in the Dark will pull you out of that reverie real quick.
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