You know, nobody ever asks me any fun questions in interviews.
They're always gotcha interviews.
How are we going to take down Candace Owens?
I'm going to ask myself a fun question.
Candace, do you have any regrets in politics, any stances you've taken that have radically shifted?
Yes, I'm so glad you asked that, Candace.
My biggest regret, you guys, and I'm not kidding, is that I supported the criminal justice reform bill under Trump, and I will tell you why I did that.
I'm going to be completely honest.
I was very green.
At that time, which is just a way of saying that I was very new to politics.
Everything was exploding in my face, and I had never imagined that it would inspire so much hatred towards me, especially regarding the black community.
And I was being called somebody that was anti-black and hateful, so I already had that.
You know, imprinted on my mind that this is awful, that I'm being smeared this way, and I don't feel this way.
But then the other element of it is that when this was pitched to me—the person that pitched it to me, by the way, was Jared Kushner—and I should have done my own research, so this is no excuse, but he just gave me the highlights.
Oh, this bill's going to be great.
You know, this is really about trying to reduce recidivism.
We're really trying to make it clear that when people leave prison, they have to have
a pathway, you know, get jobs that will help them be able to restart their lives so that
they don't end up back in prison because they're desperate.
Like, that was sort of the pitch.
Again, I should have done my own research and I should have read what was in the bill.
And if I had, I would not have supported it.
So I just want to own that.
I was completely wrong.
And one of the things that made me wake up to that is because one young woman who basically
had her sentence commuted due to this bill, I met her and she's a complete and utter psychopath.
And she's probably going to end up back in prison.
And then I read it, and I was like, actually, you know, sometimes people should just be in prison because they're crazy.
Anyways, I'm saying all of this to tell you this unbelievable story.
So there's this ex-con who is friends with the woke New York District Attorney Alvin Bragg, and obviously they are pro-criminal justice reform.
And he somehow landed an appearance on Joe Rogan last month.
He told a very, you know, appealing story about how much he's learned and how grateful he is to be walking the streets again.
Take a listen.
To Sheldon Johnson, a criminal justice reform advocate.
It was at that moment where I really said, I have to change my life.
I have to change my life.
I just can't do this.
I had a wife.
I had family still.
My son was growing up.
He was hearing stories about my so-called notoriety and I just didn't want to be that dad.
Like, I really was looking at myself and really evaluating, asking myself, like, yo, what the f*** are you doing?
I was still smoking a lot of weed at the time.
I was drinking Jailhouse Hooch.
And I was at my worst.
And I had to figure out how to get to my best.
So it pulls at your heartstrings.
You're like, man, I want him smoking that jailhouse hooch or drinking that jailhouse hooch.
I want him to have something better.
So to be clear, he was sentenced for 50 years for two violent robberies, but his sentence was commuted.
He only spent 25 years in prison.
What you're hearing there sounds like a man who most certainly had change, and the purpose of whoever got him on Joe Rogan landing him that appearance is to make everybody go, oh, no, people can change.
Except, as I asked, what if they can't?
What if we're actually getting it right when we jail somebody because of two violent robberies?
What if the mistake is being made in having our heartstrings pulled out?
And I think that would be kind of the moral of the story when you look at all of America today.
We feel bad for the illegal aliens.
Oh, no, they've killed someone.
Oh, they killed somebody again.
Oh, they want free money.
They want you to go to work so they can get more free.
Maybe we should just stop caring so much as a society.
And you know who is definitely now going to substantiate that plausibility that we should just stop caring?
Well, the man that you just heard, Sheldon Johnson, 48 years old.
He has been arrested again and charged.
Guess why?
He dismembered a body, allegedly.
Of course, he still has to go through the court system.
He has allegedly dismembered a person.
There was a body that was found in a bin and a head that was stashed in a freezer belonging
to a victim named Colin Small, who is 44 years old.
Now why did they charge him and not somebody else?
Well, they looked at some surveillance footage, which showed him transporting a large number
of bags to and from an apartment.
And the building's super had speculated that he was hiding something, not your average thing to just be transporting a large amount of bags back and forth.
Neighbors then allegedly told investigators that they heard a victim pleading for his life before two shots came from the apartment.
At least, that is what those sources told the New York Post.
Before the grisly discovery, he was spotted in surveillance images appearing to disguise himself in a blonde wig.
and transporting large boxes and trash bags.
So he has now been charged with murder, manslaughter, and weapon possession.
So, again, this is allegedly what likely happened is he got into an argument with somebody.
He was not so reformed as people had hoped.
And upon that argument, a man pleaded with him.
He shot him anyways, and then said, you know what?
This is probably not going to be good for criminal justice reform, especially my job as a criminal justice reform advocate.
So what am I going to do with the body?
I'm going to put on a blonde wig, and I'm going to dispose of it.
And I'm going to dismember it so that people don't see me carrying out, you know, a full body.
I'm going to put it into bags and boxes and get rid of it.
It's allegedly, plausibly what happened, but we will find out.
Again, my biggest regret is standing in line with criminal justice reform without having read thoroughly what was actually being proposed.
Maybe if I hadn't supported it, that man would not have ever been walking the streets and given the opportunity to commit another crime.
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