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July 31, 2023 - Candace Owens
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THIS Is The Reason I Interviewed Andrew Tate
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Alright guys, happy Monday.
Obvious question of the day.
Why in the world did I fly to Bucharest, Romania and sit down with Andrew Tate for an interview?
At least that's a question that's been on some people's minds.
Plus, later on in the show, we're going to talk about LeBron James' I Promise School because it has delivered very predictable results.
Yep, it turns out that there is no eighth grade student that has passed the state math test in three years.
Wow, who could have foreseen that?
Oh, I know who, me.
I think I told you guys this is where it was going to end.
All that and more today coming up on Candace Owens.
So last week the show was off air because obviously I flew to Bucharest, Romania to
sit down with Andrew Tate and to make it clear that interview was in the works for a lot of months.
We were actually trying to get there a lot earlier, but it turned out with everything that was going on that the best time that worked was last week.
And I am completely stunned by the reaction.
Obviously, there's been over 2 million views of our three-hour interview on YouTube alone and many more because people have ripped the content and put it everywhere.
And that's been incredible. It's been an incredible response and a majority positive response of people saying that they really needed to hear this conversation, particularly men saying that they needed to hear this conversation.
Something is brewing in the category of masculinity.
Men are not feeling like they have been heard for years, something that I have been saying for a long time, that obviously we are existing under a matriarchy.
So why did I interview Andrew Tate?
Some people asked. He's not a conservative.
He's not a Christian, some people said.
I mean, that to me has got to be the most ridiculous question ever asked.
Do you think that every person that I have on this show is a conservative and a Christian?
Do you think the job of conservatives and Christians who have podcasts is to only host people that agree with them?
People that they sit across from and go, yes, we are exactly the same person.
Obviously not. Or nobody would have a podcast.
I've had plenty of people on this show that I have fundamental disagreements with over and over again.
I had the founder of BLM New York on this show before, and we had many disagreements.
The idea is that when you see people that have a platform and have different ideas, and sometimes the same ideas, you sit across from them and you foster a conversation, especially when the person is as interesting as Andrew Tate.
Because far be it from the suggestion that conservatives in America platformed Andrew Tate, Andrew Tate created this platform all by himself, and it is a fascinating one that is newsworthy because tens of millions of young men around the world listen to him.
I listen to him every single day. So many people listen to him that within 24 hours we broke a record by having a three hour conversation with him on this show.
More than a million people watched it in just a 24 hour span and that number is climbing.
So yes, he is a newsworthy person.
His platform is going to exist with or without conservatives in America speaking to him.
Let's lean further into that because there's another thing that I would like to point to because I want to make it clear, as I did throughout that interview, that I do not come from a background of conservatism.
Yes, my grandfather was very Christian and he planted those seeds for me, which I think essentially is the reason why I bloomed to be the individual that I was today.
But as I always say, I took a very liberal route to conservatism.
So when I am speaking to people about the ills of liberalism, I'm speaking to them from a position of someone who had lived that way.
When I speak to people, as I did a few weeks ago, about the reasons why I don't consume alcohol, I'm speaking to them as somebody who used to drink a ton of alcohol, right?
Which means they're able to better identify with me.
What people don't understand is that the reason I'm a conservative today is not because there were squeaky clean conservatives that had podcasts that I listened to and I said, yeah, that really resonates for me.
No, that is not how it works.
That is not how spiritual maturation works.
It is a process. I like to say that I think that everybody is sort of vibrating at different frequencies throughout periods of their life.
For example, when I was young, I talk about how I used to listen to Jay-Z's music.
I used to listen to hip-hop music.
I used to be able to listen to music that a lot of times had very bad words in it, talked about really dark themes, but at that moment in my life is what I could relate to.
And Jay-Z's music, as I said in that interview with Andrew Tate, felt like something that I could relate to because he was a person that came from nothing and he made something of himself.
So it was a frequency, if you will, or a vibration that I could respond to, thinking, okay, I can actually make something of myself too.
People that don't come from nothing like to look up to people that also don't come from nothing because it makes that process seem more attainable.
That's the truth. And then as I mature and I look back and I can't listen to some of the same stuff that I listen to anymore, it sounds so harsh on my ears because I'm no longer in those circumstances.
That music is not as relatable to me, but it doesn't mean that I can't relate to the people that still relate to those sorts of music.
I don't leave them behind and say, oh, well, I don't understand how you ever listened to this crap because I do very much understand how they listen to that music and why for a lot of people that is and can sound like the only hope that they have in their life.
a process. Today I listen to people that could have never brought me over to the conservative
side when I was just getting started. In fact, when I was just getting started, it was people
like Dave Rubin, who I have a lot of, I think, fundamental disagreements with today. But
when I was first getting into politics, listening to his podcast, Rubin Report, going on his
show, him showing me his friendship and talking to me about issues made it feel like it was
an okay place for me to begin my journey.
When really all I really understood at that point in my career was that something was really wrong with leftist principles.
That perhaps leftist principles were holding black Americans back.
That was my focus at the time before I really understood that it was much bigger than that.
And thankfully, I've been given a platform to go through that process of maturation with people that have said, Candice, look further, go further.
And so today I can really sound quite puritanical when I talk to young women, but I don't speak to them with snobbery.
I don't look down my nose and say, how could you follow this person?
How could you listen to this person?
Again, I am reminding you that there are tens of millions of young men and adult men worldwide who listen to Andrew Tate.
So the job is not to judge those individuals and to tell them that they shouldn't listen to him.
That doesn't work, okay?
You can't hate somebody out of existence.
The job is to try to understand why, and the way that you understand why is by asking meaningful questions and not judging.
Why does Andrew Tate have the platform that he has?
What is it that these young men are responding to?
Quite curiously, people that follow him, even the people that I know in my life, are really good examples of what it means to be a man.
Men that lead their families, men that are masculine, not the kinds of men that we see in society today that treat women poorly.
So the question is, why do so many good men that I know follow Andrew Tate?
That sparks my curiosity, right?
Right? It's the reason why I get on a plane and I go to Bucharest because I want to understand it.
I think that would make me somebody that is a journalist, right?
You're curious about something and you go and you ask the questions.
And I was able to understand it actually when sitting on the crossroom and you tape for three hours.
It's because over the last maybe more than 10 years, we have been existing under a rabid matriarchy where women think that we are the ones that get to define what is and is not masculinity.
That if we keep shrieking loudly about what a man should be, Somebody maybe tail in between the legs listens to our every barking order that society will be able to function.
No, far from that.
In fact, this toxic matriarchy that we are existing in is a bit like hell on earth right now, right?
As I said to Andrew Tate in that interview, it is because Lena Dunham existed that Andrew Tate exists today.
Because men were told that they were nothing.
because men are routinely having that narrative reinforced to them by the mainstream media
and culture.
Because so many women rap about and sing about how bad men are because they make a mockery
of relationships because we talk about feminism, toxic brand of feminism, that really is about
mocking men and making them feel badly.
So now you have a man that stands up and says, you can work out, you can start a business,
you can be strong, and we don't have to listen to these kinds of women.
And men are having not just a psychological but a biological response to that.
Saying, yes, I knew that I could be more.
I knew that everything that I'm hearing from the mainstream media isn't right.
So again, rather than judging those men, maybe it is our job as women to try to understand why it is that Andrew Tate has a platform.
In closing, what I will say to you guys is this.
LOL to anybody who thinks that they can tell me who I can sit down with and speak to.
I am the same woman, the same woman who once tweeted that I would like to sit down with Vladimir Putin, and I still would like to sit down with Vladimir Putin today.
Because I'm curious, because I don't accept the mainstream media as it is, as it tells me the narrative is, what we're supposed to believe about certain individuals.
And so, yes, I believe if a lot of people were alive today, I probably would have sat down with them, people that we are told are horrible backwards people.
Again, I'm just a curious individual, and I remain curious, and I'm proud of the sit-down that I had with Andrew Tate.
And there will be a lot more to come.
So stay tuned if you want to be offended.
And that's all I have to say about that.
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Okay, now it's time for some Topics du Jour.
♪♪ Ugh, LeBron James. Where do we begin?
All right, well, I'll tell you the headline here.
His I Promise School is Failing.
But before we talk about that, let's just talk about my general commentary regarding LeBron James that has earned me the ire of the black community because how dare you insult one of our kings?
King James, oh my god, he can put the basketball in the net and like, oh my gosh, that means he's a king or something like that.
No, that's really stupid. We're good to go.
LeBron James, in my view, is all brawn and no brains.
And I have said this repeatedly, and I'm going to just unpack this for you slowly before we get to the obvious failures of his school, which I said years ago, nobody ever gives me any credit for being right, right?
I'm just being a hater. I just hate him because he's a strong black man who knows how to play basketball or something ridiculous like that.
LeBron James obviously does not read books.
He is not clever. He is not smart.
He is not what Kobe Bryant was.
But he wants you to believe he is, which is why he is often seen holding a book and always remarkably reading the very first page when he has Botox catching him reading a book.
Here is a meme generally showing you eight pictures.
What are the odds? Eight pictures of the paparazzi catching him reading the first page of a book.
That's because this is marketing.
LeBron James is trying to sell to you that he's got intellectual prowess.
He has none. If you need further evidence of that, here is when he is caught off guard and a reporter asks him to detail what he's learned in the Malcolm X book that he's holding in this interview.
Take a listen.
So you're holding the autobiography of Malcolm X along with Alex Haley.
I don't know how far you are into the book, but what's your biggest takeaway so far?
I kind of just started a couple days ago.
But I've read a lot of notes over the years.
It's my first time actually reading this from start to finish.
But just a very, very smart man.
Very, very, very smart man.
And basically, His words in the 60s and what was going on was actually what's going on today still.
Him understanding how powerful the Negro can be.
He used that word a lot.
How powerful we are.
But we have to unite.
And we have to be together.
We have to stand strong because there's always going to be obstacles.
There's always going to be You know, things that's going to be thrown at us where they try to weaken us.
Okay, get out of here. It's too painful.
It's too painful. I can't watch it anymore.
You know when you just have to bullsh** a whole book report and you didn't read it the night before, you realize it's due, and you're like, oh, crap, what's this book about?
Malcolm X, okay, he used the word Negro a lot.
He, a very, very, very, very, very, very, very smart man.
Gosh, I'm gonna do this third paragraph on.
Bye.
Malcolm, we have to unite.
And that's kind of the point of the book, is that Black America has to unite.
That's probably kind of the point of every book that's been written by a Black person.
And I really hope I get an A on this book report regarding this book that I didn't read.
This is what LeBron James is.
And people are upset with me for calling it out.
You can like him as an athlete.
He's not an intellect.
And so when he announced that he was opening the I Promise School, I obviously was critical
of this because you cannot give people handouts.
It does not work.
The students have to do the work.
You can't say, oh, because you're black, you just need a school.
And he said, I'm going to guarantee every kid a scholarship to college, as if that's
going to work.
That's not how it works in a meritocracy, right?
These children have to actually want to do well in school.
And it turns out that they don't want to do well in school.
Yes, not a single eighth grade student has passed state math tests in three years at
the I Promise School, which is based in Akron, Ohio.
And just to be clear, he is funding this school entirely via his LeBron James Family Foundation.
And you will remember the media campaign.
I think Don Lemon went down with him to the school and talked about his goals, the media campaign behind LeBron James giving back to the community, how they were trying to convince you that this was going to be a remarkable success.
A lot of marketing dollars went into that.
Let me jog your memory. Take a look.
I promise. I promise.
To go to school.
Go to school. To never give up.
To never give up.
No matter what. No matter what.
The I Promise School is more than a school.
It's a place where we are family means everything.
A school where teachers greet you with hugs and high fives.
Where strong STEM academics are infused with love and care.
And where our team mentality shines through IPS athletics.
A place where learning is about more than books.
Well, you heard it there first, guys.
They're going to greet you with hugs and high fives, and learning is about, quote, more than books.
I don't know, maybe they should have made the learning about the books because as I
said, it turns out that not a sole student in its fall 8th grade class passed the state
math test since the 3rd grade.
This has just been going on for years, according to the Akron Beacon Journal.
So this school is in fact a failure.
It's not really a failure actually more than it is a revealing truth about something that
I have been saying forever.
Black America has to want to pick itself up from the bootstraps, of its own bootstraps.
You can't have a community that whines about racism the entire time.
Where is the racism at LeBron James' school?
The entire thing is focused on basically saying you're a winner just because you're black
and that's not true.
You're a winner when you win.
A lot of people are losers, okay?
That is so evidentiary.
We have a lot of losers in society that believe that they can become winners if they whine the loudest.
A lot of people that don't want to work, want to be given handouts, because look how cool I am.
I go to LeBron James' school.
LeBron James gave me a high five and a hug.
Who cares about your high five or your hugs?
Teach these kids to learn how to read.
If they don't know how to read, fail them.
Flunk them. Okay?
People need failures in life to be able to develop.
That is the truth. Failure is good for people, not pats on the backs and high fives.
But what do I know? I don't know.
I guess I'm the only person who actually wants black America to get better, and it's only going to get better via tough love and understanding that we should not be having idols like LeBron James because even though his heart was in the right place with this school, he I'm glad that the Supreme Court has finally sided against it.
All right, guys, moving on and sticking with the topic of LeBron James and his inability to think at all past dribbling the ball, inability to prod the narrative.
Obviously, last week I was not able to report on the story of his 18-year-old son, Bronny, who suffered cardiac arrest during his USC workout.
I first want to say this. Immediately, I said a prayer for him.
Obviously, LeBron James' son is not—he doesn't carry the faults of his father, so to speak, and nobody would ever want to see their son go through something like this.
It's horrific, and I'm glad that he has since been released from the hospital and is recovering at home.
Obviously, the reason why this garnered a lot of headlines, other than the fact that his father is as famous as he is, is because LeBron James is one of those people that just— Supported the narrative of vaccines and people are starting to ask questions.
Elon Musk got into a lot of trouble for tweeting the obvious, which is asking the question about the vaccine, which is known to cause myocarditis in young men.
So I will ask you the question, what is a proper, young, strong, 18-year-old athlete doing dropping of cardiac arrest?
Here is the 911 call to jog your memory.
Yeah, ambulance here now.
Okay, all right, sir. All right, sir.
I'm gonna send help there.
Okay, and where exactly are you?
Yeah, yeah, of course. I'll wait for you.
All right, sir. We're gonna send help.
Okay, your telephone is... Hold on.
Don't hang up, sir. Don't hang up.
Your telephone? Yes.
Okay, let's get next to him, please.
Okay, how old is he? Get next to him with the phone, okay?
Get next to him. Get next to him, please, with the phone.
Okay, I need to find out.
Is there a doctor on scene with them or a registered nurse?
No, there's no doctor on scene. Okay, help is already on the way, okay?
Get next to him, please. Obviously horrific to listen to.
And again, I will say that I'm very happy that Bronnie is doing better today.
But I want to remind you that you all have a right to ask questions about why it is that healthy, young, athletic men are just dropping of cardiac arrest.
We're seeing this over and over again. Do not allow the media to normalize this for you.
You absolutely have questions that need to be asked.
Specifically, when mandates were placed on so many of these students to get the vaccine in the first place.
Specifically, when you had athletes like LeBron James and you had celebrities that were telling you in a media campaign to roll up your sleeves and don't ask questions and get the vaccines and put something in your body.
Something I never engaged in.
I'm not an idiot. I know not to listen to these people because the majority of them are all brawn and no brains.
And of course this isn't the only person that these weird events have happened to.
We talked about Justin Bieber and him suddenly getting paralyzed in half his face.
His wife getting a brain clot, getting a blood clot in her brain.
So too just happened to a 30-year-old Grammy winner, Tori Kelly.
Yes, she has been treated in the hospital for blood clots.
That also happened last week.
She was at dinner in Los Angeles when she experienced an elevated heart rate before passing out.
She passed out for a while, was taken to Cedars-Sinai Hospital, and they discovered blood clots in her legs and in her lungs, and they're trying to determine whether or not she had blood clots in her heart.
She was in and out of consciousness during her time in the ICU, according to media reports.
She is back on the mend, and they are still trying to figure out what happened here.
Why suddenly are we seeing 30-year-old young women with blood clots everywhere?
Is that a thing? Are we pretending that was a thing?
Are they going to try to mend and black us and wipe our memory?
Are we going to pretend that this was just typical news stories that were happening amongst celebrities the entire time?
Because it wasn't. 30-year-olds, 18-year-olds, that's considered the prime of your life in these years.
Think that's bad?
Well, a bit older, but ESPN's Shaka Hislop is also recovering after he collapsed on air.
The video is quite scary to look at.
Let's take a look at it.
He's on the naughty set from POC. He's not gone on the tour of Japan.
Shaka! Shaka!
I need some help.
I need medication.
Now if it needs reminding, Shaka, who is very well loved in the ESPN community,
also was a pioneer for the vaccine, got out there and told you guys what to do
because everybody who had a platform was being essentially bullied.
Get your followers to get the vaccine.
If you're a loving host, tell them.
I know that we're rushing this out, but if you're a loving host, this is definitely what you should do.
Tell them to get something that you don't even know what it is, really.
Everybody do that. I didn't do that because I'm a sincere person.
Here's an old clip of Shaka pushing that vaccine to his followers.
Take a listen. I'm here to implore you, go out and get vaccinated.
I got mine months ago and I felt so much better for it.
So in an update, he is saying that he is working with medics to determine what happened to him and that they still aren't sure.
Again, he's a bit older, but 54 is still extremely young, and obviously he is in great condition, great athletic condition.
So it begs the question, what on earth is going on?
Do not allow the media to gaslight you.
Alright guys, let's jump in to some of your comments from episodes past.
Alright, I first wanted to read this email that I received last night to my info box.
It says, Hi Candice, I'm a Daily Wire Plus member and a long time fan.
I just wanted to let you know that your show about not drinking, including the article you read that changed your mind, has allowed me the courage to stop drinking.
I've wanted to for a while and never had the courage.
Your show gave me the courage and my husband and I aren't drinking anymore.
We come from a long line of alcoholics.
I want to be better for my three sons.
I just wanted to let you know.
It might not seem like a lot, but I figured you'd smile knowing you helped change someone's relationship with alcohol.
Thanks. Keep up the great work.
I love your show. Chelsea.
Chelsea, I received your email last night, and I'm not even kidding when I say it.
It made my week. And it made my week just because when I did those episodes, I realized that it does take courage for a lot of people to even admit that they don't drink, which is such a weird situation.
perverse thing like why why do I feel weird saying I don't drink and people that drink are like
Oh, we're the cool ones and we could say that we drink all the time and every weekend and I said it's worth it
if one person changes their life and Obviously there were so many comments of people who wanted
to change their life and couldn't take that final step and I'm really happy
To hear that you did and let me tell you you're probably gonna be gardening soon
If you keep following me on my Instagram, you're gonna be gardening
It's what you're gonna do with all of your time, which is super rewarding a lot of work
So definitely keep me posted and keep emailing me.
Now, the rest of the comments were pertaining to the Andrew Tate episode.
I have been really flat out flabbergasted by a lot of them.
Let's start with Jombo52.
Jombo writes, Stopped weed, stopped porn, complete positive attention to my wife, working way harder to gain complete personal sovereignty, no more complaining, standing up and being a man.
Thank you, Mr.
Tate. Just the amount of people that have talked, men that have written in and said things like this is stunning to me.
It is stunning to me to examine the influence, the positive influence that Andrew Tate has had on so many young men's lives, despite the fact that he obviously has a very troubled background and has done things in the past that I think even make him uncomfortable to reexamine, which we saw. Swigbeat22 writes, We forget the virtue that brought us here.
Wow, I really love that to say that the men of the past built this world that we live in of mud and sticks and rocks.
And you are correct. Obviously, you guys know how much I talk about my grandfather as the ultimate example of masculinity.
And yeah, it was about working with your hands, taking after your family.
And I, to be completely honest, do not listen.
I think that a lot of women listen to my content, perhaps for the same reason.
I think my audience leans female.
And it's because I'm talking about those older aspects of femininity, talking about gardening.
So I get that. I get that there is this, I would almost say, This quiet suffering that we know that we're not happy and we know that we're overprivileged and we are somehow being told that we're going to fulfill our spiritual needs by acting like the other sex, men acting like women and women acting like men.
And we know that that's wrong. And I think that people that are standing up and saying no to that are getting some attention right now.
And Andrew Tate is obviously among them.
Amanda Hudson writes, so much of what you say makes sense.
However, you are defining...
I think she meant to say definitely wrong about therapy.
I had it for a brief period and they taught me to take responsibility and change my mindset.
And I have not had anxiety since.
They actually taught me the strength of mind you talk about.
There are good and bad therapists.
They are not all created equal.
Amanda, I actually have talked on my show often against therapy, and I have made that...
I've tried to be careful, at least.
I've made that differentiation and said, I think the overwhelming majority of therapy is bad today.
And I obviously think the evidence for that, look around you.
You have people, therapists, that are telling you to affirm children in whatever thought they have of the day.
If they want to be a cat, then they are a cat.
And for parents, just need to listen to affirm those things.
And so I think what Andrew and both me are speaking to is New Age therapy, which unfortunately is the dominant form of therapy today.
But yes, I have heard, and I do know of a couple of my friends that are therapists, and they happen to be European, but they're tough.
They will prod the person and say, why do you think like that?
Here's what's wrong with you.
But the New Age therapy as it relates to Prince Harry and what we're seeing today is something entirely different.
Rob Laxnail writes, But for me, it comes off as confusing.
As I understand it, it's okay to do bad stuff when you are young and poor, and you should only calm down a bit when you are older and, quote unquote, got the Bugatti.
I think that is meaningful feedback, and I think that was something that I wanted more of, and we got it towards the end of the conversation.
But I do think that he needs to outright admit that what he did was really wrong, and I think that maybe there is a fear that In him, that if he does that, that somehow people will perceive that as a weakness.
And I don't think that is actually, you know, and I'm giving you my view on it.
Obviously, I speak a lot about the things that I did when I was younger.
And I do think that they're wrong.
And I say that in a non-apologetic manner.
So I understood what he was trying to say when he said that, well, I'm not sorry for it.
Because, I mean, obviously, I didn't have the same examples in my life when I was growing up.
And if I had, I probably would not have made those decisions, but I just didn't have them.
Right? And so it's weird to feel sorry about things that feel like they were out of your control.
And I don't think he communicated that, but I think it would be acceptable for him to say, and this is horrific.
Obviously, I look back on that now, but I'm not the same person when I look at these videos.
This is not who I want to be, and I know that I'm called upon to be something greater, and hopefully I can steer people away from making the mistakes that I did.
Ty Blue writes, it is not completely normal in a healthy homosexual relationship to have sex 20 times a night.
That is so completely misleading and ignorant that I can't even fathom where you found that data.
There are sexual deviants that come in all forms, but it is far from the norm in any form of relationship.
Might have been a little hyperbolic when I said 20 times a night what I'm saying is that gay homosexual men have a lot more sex because they can have a lot more sex and they do seem to be overtly sexual and I think evidence to back up my claim is the pride parade.
I said this in a previous episode if I called upon all of my heterosexual homies and I said let's have a heterosexual pride parade They would bring their families.
No one would get naked. It would be a weird thing if a heterosexual was like, let's just get naked and wear dildos and stuff.
So it's extreme. But I'm very happy that you're speaking out against it because I think that we need more gay people to say it's wrong and it's gotten perverse and it's gotten overtly sexual.
But I do very much believe that being a homosexual male allows you to lean into lust.
And a lot of the relationships become about lust.
What if there was someone out there who kept a log of every single thing that you did every minute of the day?
I think that would be pretty creepy, right?
But what if I told you that's exactly what happens every time you go online?
Your internet provider is allowed to store logs of every website you've ever visited and can legally sell this data to anyone.
That's why I always use ExpressVPN.
ExpressVPN reroutes your internet connection through their secure server so that your internet provider can't see or log what you do online.
Many of you might be wondering, if you're routing all of your data through a VPN, doesn't that mean the VPN can see what you're doing and log your data instead?
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