A Civilization Dies Tonight? The Iran Panic Attack On the Right
Charlie Kirk and guests dissect President Trump's "civilization dies tonight" threat regarding Iran, debating whether it signals nuclear or conventional strikes amid Tucker Carlson's 25th Amendment warnings. The show critiques the Dignity Act for granting uncapped amnesty while highlighting ICE successes in forcing self-deportation despite sanctuary city resistance. Steve Hilton's California gubernatorial run gains traction through Trump's endorsement and voter ID initiatives, countering socialist claims against Christianity by distinguishing voluntary sharing from state-mandated redistribution. Ultimately, the episode frames current crises as tests of American sovereignty and traditional values against perceived liberal overreach. [Automatically generated summary]
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Truth, Weapons, and Trump's Language00:14:57
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Welcome back, Blake.
Howdy.
It's good to be here.
President Trump issued a truth that has, I would, I think it's safe to say the entire internet spinning and the whole entire world, probably.
The truth says a whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again.
I don't want that to happen, but it probably will, he says.
However, now that we have complete and total regime change, where different, smarter, and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen.
Who knows?
We will find out tonight.
One of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the world, 47 years of extortion, corruption, and death will finally end.
God bless the great people of Iran.
So everybody online who has been anti-war, which I consider myself to be a part of, by the way, is going to a conclusion here that I never would have even thought had I not read the comments.
Everybody's assuming that he's going to wipe out Iran with a nuclear weapon.
He did say a civilization will die tonight.
Well, so first of all, I think this is a huge litmus test.
Never to return.
Well, I think he's talking about the regime, but listen, I just, maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe I'm the crazy one and I'm not looking at President Trump's truth here in the proper light.
I don't think that's true.
So I know President Trump to be, to use a more polite word for it, Blake, he is a smack talker.
Okay.
He does back it up oftentimes with actual military kinetic force.
We've seen that in Venezuela.
We've seen that with the mother of all bombs.
We've seen that with Soleimani.
We've seen it, obviously, in Iran.
So I'm not saying these are, you know, empty threats.
I don't think that at all.
He's given them a deadline of 8 p.m. tonight.
He extended it once to basically say, come to the negotiating table, open the straight.
He used an expletive.
Open the expletive straight.
Open the expletive straight, and then he did the, you know, praise be to Allah.
Yeah, tweet, which was another tweet that's got everybody spun up.
So, I mean, I'm looking up and down the line here.
You've got Brett Weinstein.
You've got, of course, Tucker Carlson, Rokana.
You've got a lot of people basically now saying, invoke the 25th, get him out of office.
And then you have a bunch of other people that are saying, guys, keep your wits about you.
You know, JD Vance is out there in Hungary, basically sounding a pretty conventional tone.
You know, JD is known to be one of the people inside the administration who is more on the anti-interventionist track.
It's kind of like when Rush Limbaugh used to say, I'll let you know when it's time to worry.
And I don't think we're there yet.
I think this is an incredibly important day.
This is a critical day, a historic day.
But to jump to conclusion that President Trump is considering using a nuclear weapon, I think is beyond rational.
And I would say he already did correct the record in the New York Post.
He told them that he's not planning on using a new.
Well, we'll see.
It is, as you say, he loves to go maximally aggressive rhetorically a lot, and then he will back off.
We saw this with Greenland, for example.
There was all this stuff like we were going to invade Greenland.
And then he says, oh, we got some better basing rights and mineral rights and whatever.
And so I think everyone's holding their breath because, as you say, it frankly is possible.
He uses, it doesn't need to be a nuclear weapon.
He might drop one of those like mother of all bombs on them, or he could just mean I'm going to hit targets that were off limits before.
And he needs to credibly signal that he was ready to do that.
When in fact, his ideal is to reach a ceasefire, back off, de-escalate.
We don't know, and that's why everyone's holding their breath.
So as we mentioned, there's a lot of friction between Tucker Carlson and the president.
I don't think it's surprising that he disliked the intervention in Iran.
You have a lot of history and insider knowledge.
You used to work with Tucker.
So I know you see this.
Tucker's always...
Yeah.
So ever since I first encountered him, Tucker was very skeptical of all of the military adventures in the Middle East.
I think that's sort of what initially moved him away from, he was a bit of a neocon type.
Yeah, but he supported the original Iraq war when it began.
And he regretted it greatly.
Regretted it greatly, soured on it quickly.
And that's driven a lot of his thinking since then.
It's not surprising he doesn't like that, but he's really, just in the last few days, been getting much more aggressive about it.
I think.
He posted a video last night.
Exactly.
In the early days, there was a lot of sort of vague, he was upset about it, but he would do that classic, attack the president's advisors.
They have misled him.
But he's getting more direct about it.
And a lot of people are noticing it.
So, first of all, he criticized the president.
We wanted to flag this because he's upset.
He was actually quite upset about his Easter tweet where he says, praise be to Allah.
He said that was not a good tone to take.
Let's do clip 13.
The message in our Bible, which is you are not God.
And only if you think you are do you talk this way.
But it's not just mockery of Islam.
And no president should mock Islam.
That's not your job.
This is not a theocracy.
We don't go to war with other theocracies to find out which theocracy is more effective.
So we did that.
But then even more notable, he's actually, he's taken this approach of essentially saying that staffers in the White House should revolt against the president, should disobey orders from the commander in chief.
Clip 14.
If you work in the White House or in the U.S. military, now is time to say no, absolutely not.
And say it directly to the president, no.
In case you're thinking about using some weapon of mass destruction against the population of Iran, in whose name we liberated Iran, we killed their religious leader for their benefit.
Do you remember that?
This was last month.
Those people who are in direct contact with the president need to say no.
I'll resign.
I'll do whatever I can do legally to stop this because this is insane.
And if given the order, I'm not carrying it out.
Figure out the codes on the football yourself.
So we obviously this is a huge escalation.
Like I said, President Trump has already addressed it to the New York Post and said he's called Tucker Carlson low IQ and that he's a fool and has denied that he is considering using nuclear weapons.
We've got one from Odette, an email here.
We asked you guys to email in.
I think it makes a good point here.
It says, hi, guys.
It's ridiculous to think someone who said Iran can never have a nuclear weapon would then bomb them with a nuclear weapon.
Trump has been saying he will go after their infrastructure.
If he does that, it will be very hard for them to be a sovereign nation.
I think a fair critique there.
Kenneth says, my two concerns are what will 20 million refugees pouring into neighboring countries cause.
I think that's also a very fair thing to be worried about.
Do you see any that you want to call out here?
Well, just there's a lot of variety where they just say the, you know, the president, President Trump needs to be tough because a nicer approach wasn't working.
Yeah, Brian.
Randa says Trump is crazy like a fox.
Trust him or live under the threat of 47 more years of Iran insanity.
I love General Patton.
Trump is the man.
I think.
Bob says, love your show.
Everyone needs to take a step back and let this play out.
The direction is not predetermined.
President Trump will escalate based on the Iranian response or lack of response.
Next steps are in the hands of the Iranian leadership and the Iranian people.
Strategic hits on the IRGC could change everything for the populace.
Okay, fair enough.
Paul says, anyone, especially on the right, that believes Donald Trump would use a nuke or intentionally kill millions of innocent civilians is not MAGA and never was.
Says Tucker Carlson and his ilk are traitors to America.
Well, that's a viewpoint.
Julie, hi, gentlemen.
I'll start with the 25th Amendment, Baloney.
Our courageous president is doing what he should have done decades, what should have been done decades ago.
He's of sound mind and a critical thinker and strategist.
In my non-military mind, I believe he's going to destroy as much infrastructure as possible and hit the bad apples as much as militarily as possible.
Okay, so listen, there is a new clip here that I want to get out here because I do think it's relevant to the discussion.
It's from somebody who kind of knows something.
So one of these people that has really come out is Mark Kelly, right?
We talked about the seditious six.
There's been another Democrat senator that is now calling this war crimes, this war crimes conversation.
But Matthew Buckley is a former pilot, a military pilot, and has an interesting critique of Mark Kelly.
And I think it's important that we understand this context.
SOT 17.
The people frothing at the mouth today, clutching their pearls about alleged war crimes if the president decides to target infrastructure.
The first things you do in any air campaign is to target the infrastructure.
So the president is actually doing this in reverse.
He has avoided targeting infrastructure.
Why?
Because he wanted to leave a lot of this stuff intact for the great Iranian people.
So all the pearl clutching and the folks like Mark Kelly, allegedly, Mark Kelly's admitting to committing war crimes when he flew A6s in Desert Storm because we obliterated, we obliterated their infrastructure.
And now he's out there saying, well, if the president does this, it's a war crime.
So, man, if it wasn't for their double standards, they'd have no standard at all.
I think that's important context.
I mean, it's a frustrating thing because I think even if you oppose this war, some people have immediately leaned into what would be a very left-wing framing of it, which is just any escalation, various actions, everything is a war crime.
Like, as he says, infrastructure is something that you target in wartime.
Well, and Mark Kelly himself did.
Yes.
And now they're all calling it a war crime.
So, you know, listen, I want peace, but let's be consistent, people, and just hold your judgment.
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Citizen Kane from Citizen Free Press, welcome back to the show.
Kane, I texted you this morning.
I was like, okay, it seems like the entire world is losing its mind this morning.
Half the internet thinks Trump's about to drop a nuke on Iran.
The other half wants to go 25th Amendment.
And meanwhile, we're all waiting for 8 p.m. Eastern because that's the deadline.
Nobody knows.
So give us the vibe check, Kane.
What's it like out there at CFP Nation?
Well, you summarized it pretty well.
I don't understand exactly why half of Twitter believes that a nuclear bomb is coming.
And that includes, I guess, for people who don't know, Tucker Carl, you've probably been talking about it.
I've been too busy to listen, but Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor Greene and others seem to be operating on the idea that a civilization could be wiped out means a nuclear weapon.
And I don't, you know, Trump uses bombastic language.
That's the way I interpreted it.
I have at no point in reading any of his true social messages have I gotten the feeling that nuclear bombs are coming.
I don't know about you guys, but no, I listen, I didn't even jump to that conclusion until I logged on this morning.
I was like, wait, people think he's going to use a nuke?
It didn't even occur to me because I just, I'm so accustomed to the normal sort of, I don't want to call it bluster, but the saber rattling.
I understand, and Blake pointed this out before, is that he likes to use maximally aggressive language when he's in deal mode.
And I just see this as Trump doing a deal, but he did just tell Brett Baer.
I got this on the stack, Kane, so thank you for highlighting it for us.
That he told Brett Baer that 8 p.m. is absolutely on if they don't come to the table.
So I don't think he's bluffing, but I also don't think he wants to, you know, necessarily have to do anything.
He doesn't want to have to escalate beyond this point, but he's willing to.
The Nuclear Ultimatum to Kim00:15:01
Yeah, I think I agree with all of that.
This is the language Trump uses.
We shouldn't be surprised by it.
I also never got an inkling of anything involving nuclear weapons.
Part of that, I have this philosophy that I feel like influencers or influencers/slash journalists, they feel like they always have to have something to talk about on Twitter all day long.
It's almost as though they've got a 24-hour show and they've got to fill it.
And so I feel like people just sort of naturally get pushed to jumping to conclusions in order, you know, and they, and yet they don't, you know, I mean, speaking specifically about Tucker, they don't seem to, you know, to qualify their statements by saying, look, Trump has made no comment, you know, along these lines.
So I think that's kind of irresponsible, to be honest.
The Alex Jones and 25th Amendment stuff you mentioned, that is, you know, people haven't seen it.
That clip is also in the stack.
That, you know, we know Alex has been against the war, which is his prerogative from the beginning, but he and Barnes, you know, were discussing how to, and it seemed again to be the same, the same misinterpretation.
You know, they seem to be assuming that Trump's about to drop nukes and so he has to be stopped.
And in the case of Alex Jones, he was suggesting a 25th Amendment removal.
So to me, I'm not, you know, the vibe in the stack, the vibe in the open thread, the, you know, the million or so people who visit CFP every day seems to be trust the president.
You know, no one is happy about this war.
No one is looking forward to the possibility, hopefully it doesn't happen of ground troops.
So this isn't, my audience isn't, you know, a war-mongering audience, but at the same time, they're, they're willing to allow the president to do his deal making.
You know, Trump, I've been thinking, as I'm sure both of you have, I'll finish with this and throw it back.
I've been thinking, you know, every time Trump lays down a mini ultimatum, let's call it a 50% ultimatum, a full one.
I, you know, I wonder, does he think about how he gets out of this if Iran doesn't buckle?
And so that's where I've been doing my analysis is just trying to see ways out.
And, you know, now this last part, this, you know, this human shields on the bridges, that's going to add a completely different element to it.
So I want to hear your guys' thoughts.
I get really on the 25th Amendment thing.
What makes me angry about it is you can really sense when people tout that this certain degree of contempt they have for America being a republic with an elected presidency.
Whether you have concerns with the president's approach or not, I don't think it remotely comes close to the scenario envisioned by the 25th Amendment, which is the president actually being incapacitated, actually incapable.
Whatever you think of Trump, he actually is able to understand what he is doing.
He knows completely.
He is taking the actions he wants to take as the elected president.
You might think it's misguided.
You might think it's a mistake.
You might think it makes him a bad president, but it's not like Joe Biden, for example, where you have a credible suspicion that he is actually not the president, that he is out of action and other people are making the decisions for him.
He's formally lucid.
He's in control.
He's making sense.
He's not slurring his words.
Like, I don't think that, and that is the point of the 25th Amendment.
Yeah, like, I mean, the biggest complaints about President Trump is he's doing things he's done before, but more.
Okay.
Well, here's a good example, Kane.
Our team dug this up.
This is a 2018 tweet from President Trump.
And just because it felt relevant.
North Korean leader Kim Jong-un just stated that the nuclear button is on his desk at all times.
Will someone from his depleted and food-starved regime please inform him that I too have a nuclear button, but it is much bigger and more powerful one than his.
And my button works.
That was an old timer.
The button works.
And he called him.
He called him Rocket Man.
I mean, Trump 1.0, there was a moment where we were actually.
And it was the same thing.
People said threatening.
He's going to start a nuclear war.
That was when the 25th Amendment thing started.
And now, look, they're best friends.
Yeah, there's so much contempt.
I can't remember who it was, but one of the ones who said, oh, JD Vance needs to evoke the 25th and then pick a Democrat as his vice president and then also say he won't run for re-election.
Like these people.
Yeah, I saw that.
I saw that one as well.
What are they even like?
What are they even doing?
Just come out and say, I don't think America should have elections.
It should have some committee of experts in D.C.
And they pick the president and they also decide what the Constitution means.
That's what you want.
When you say something like that, that is the system you want.
And listen, Kane, and I want to get your reaction here, but I just feel like the whole internet discourse right now is missing like an obvious third way here.
And it's not like I always look for third ways.
I mean, but here's my point.
I am not in favor of this war.
If I would have been in the room, I would have said, let's not.
I think it's bad politically.
We have a nation to build here at home.
Okay.
Just all cards on the table.
That would have been me.
But I also don't jump to conclusions when President Trump is saber-rattling and when he's negotiating and when he's doing the rhetorical flourishes as he tends to.
But here's the point.
I can also understand the military and political drive to deal with the Iran threat.
I understand it.
I'm not sitting here going like this doesn't make sense.
There's been no case made.
No, the case has been made that they were trying to develop a nuke.
They've been funding terrorist proxies throughout the Middle East, attacking our troops, attacking our allies.
I get it.
I disagree.
I would have said, hey, let's pass on this.
We don't need any more Middle East wars.
But I just feel like the rational middle is getting winnowed away.
It's like the internet turns everybody into this galaxy brain where we just rush to the most extreme positions possible.
What's your take, Ken?
Yeah, well, that's sort of what I've been trying to decipher for the nine years that I've been running this website is where that, you know, what causes that?
What causes the galaxy brain that you just sort of talked about?
Blake was obviously correct about the dementia and the 25th Amendment.
The original point is sort of incapacitated in no way, shape, or form.
Has Trump been incapacitated?
In fact, he's probably not sleeping that much over the past five weeks of war, and he seemed more engaged and more focused and more on point if that's possible.
So I don't see any of that 25th Amendment stuff at all.
Regarding the language that Trump used with Kim Jong that you pulled up from 2018, I love this stuff.
I'll be honest.
I love the fact that the president uses language like this and that he engages in hyperbole and engages in sort of bombast.
I think it's, look, it makes it a lot more entertaining.
And if you have a brain, if you aren't, if you don't have a panic button inside that you're ready to press on your, you know, on your own, then you're going to be able to handle this kind of language.
Again, I don't really understand what's going on with Marjorie Taylor or Tucker in terms of their extreme reaction.
Look, as you said, you may not agree with the war having started to begin with, and you may not agree with the ultimatum that he reiterated on Saturday.
But you know what?
The rationale has been laid out there.
As you said, it's not like we don't know why Trump is doing this.
And it more or less makes sense.
You know, Iran, it's not like this theocracy has been that stable.
So there is a good case to be made for this war, whether or not we agree with it.
So I just really feel like it's a bunch of nannies who are freaking out and don't know how to handle this.
And I think we're going to be fine no matter what happens at 8 p.m.
So, Kane, it looks like odds have jumped on some of the prediction markets of a regime change, not only by April 30th, but by December 31st.
So the odds markets seem to indicate that this is probably more and more likely.
And Brett Baer is now on the record and we'll play this, SOT 19, saying 8 p.m. is happening.
I just got off the phone with the president.
He called and I said, listen, if you were to put odds on it, what were the odds that this is going to end up being a negotiated deal?
He said he wasn't going to put odds on it, but he said 8 p.m. is happening.
That's what he said.
He said, it is, if we get to that point, there is going to be an attack like they have not seen.
So Israeli TV, by the way, I've seen this image going around, has a countdown clock, Kane, counting down to 8 p.m. tonight, which is wild.
So what, yeah, there it is.
This is making rounds, which feels a little too excited.
maybe by half.
But Kane, you know, we go back to this idea that nobody wants this.
Again, I put myself firmly in the anti-interventionist camp, but I do believe that you can err in that way as well.
This is something Charlie and I used to talk about a lot.
You know, if Charlie and I were going to err when we were debating, we would err in the anti-interventionist camp.
Okay.
Just again.
But, you know, peace through strength is Trump's mantra.
He's saying that he's willing to use this.
8 p.m. is going to happen.
What do you think the odds are tonight?
Well, I would divide it sort of into that question into two parts.
The first part is, what are the odds that any bombing occurs versus what are the odds an agreement is reached?
I still believe that, look, let's take this back before I answer that.
Let's take this back to what this war is really all about.
All Iran has to do, all the MOLAs have to do is say that they're willing to give up any aspiration they have for nuclear weapons.
It's not that large of an ask.
They've now probably lost, damages have probably crossed the trillion dollar mark, maybe $2 trillion in terms of their infrastructure, their petrochemicals, their steel.
All of this to hold on to this illusion.
And yet, what's the craziest part of their dialogue on this is that they claim that this is all for peaceful nuclear energy.
So whether you believe that or not, this idea that this entire war has come about and the destruction of their industrial base has come about because they're not willing to give it up.
So first I would say they're the worst deal makers in history.
So I have to caveat that.
I had to say that in order to sort of analyze the odds for tonight that some deal is reached.
Is there enough frightening language in Trump's in Trump's true social post that could get them to actually realize that it's not a good idea to test this guy, that it's, you know, that it's going to set their nation back.
So it's a really, really hard question to answer.
Under normal circumstances, I would say a deal would be reached.
80-20 would be the odds that a deal would be reached before 8 p.m.
But when you're dealing with this group who could so easily have prevented this war or stopped this war at any point in the last month and a half by just agreeing to the one basic demand out of the 15.
So I don't have a lot of faith.
So now it leads to, I feel like it's at least 50-50 that we're going to bomb.
And then what will that bombing look like?
Well, these human chains are definitely going to affect the calculus of this situation.
There's no way that Trump and Heg Seth are going to bomb any bridges or any facilities where there are any sort of civilians either lined up by their own choice or by coercion.
I think that's the problem, right?
You don't know.
I don't know about that.
I'll be honest.
I think that as I've been sitting here hearing you talk, Kane, I'm sort of convinced that maybe they might make a different calculation on that point, actually, and saying if people are willingly, that's the question, though.
Are they coerced or not?
But if they're willingly.
They're not coerced or not.
You got to feel like a lot of these people are pushed into it.
I don't know.
I would have second thoughts about, you know, someone else posted in the open thread earlier today.
What if the entire thing's a ruse?
What if we plan to get these power stations and bridges, but at a later date and we wanted to draw attention away from a lot of other facilities that we decide to target tonight instead?
That would be, you know, a nice little backhanded route.
Look, I think Trump is going to be accepted by the base no matter how he handles the bombing tonight.
So I guess if I'm going to throw it back, I'm going to say the odds are 70-30 that we're going to do some bombing at APM.
I think that's probably about an accurate read.
We don't know what it will look like.
Regarding the regime's sanity, I don't know if you remember this, but have you ever heard about what Iran did in the Iran-Iraq war when Saddam invaded them?
They would clear minefields by sending volunteers across them.
The Iranians would?
Yes.
Or so the story goes.
I don't know if there's like video footage of that, but I believe they did that.
And it's been a few decades since then.
It's not quite the same regime.
But when you have really political prisoners, you can send prisoners.
You can just compel people across.
You can use threats against family.
Radical regimes can do things we would consider completely unthinkable.
We'll spend hundreds of millions of dollars to rescue one pilot.
They'll spend hundreds of lives to clear one minefield.
And we've encountered this before.
In World War II, the Japanese, they'd send kamikazes.
They would send suicide pilots into things.
Really, extremist regimes will do things that just catch you off guard with how suicidal they are.
And especially in our modern times, we really struggle to relate to that.
But we have to remember that people like that exist.
Well, I want to end this hour just by bringing us back to the basics here.
President Trump, we showed you the 2018 tweet that he was willing to use pretty extreme language when dealing with Kim Jong-un.
And that was actually a potential nuclear conflict.
And now they talk, or at least President Trump talks glowingly about Kim Jong-un, whether that's right or wrong.
I mean, he's still a vicious dictator.
But the point is, is that geopolitically, President Trump uses different tactics.
I think, listen, if he drops a nuke on Iran tonight, then I will absolutely call for impeachment.
I will say I'm the crazy one.
Self-Deporation and the Dignidad Act00:15:47
I'll do all the things.
I don't think that's even in the realm of possibility.
He's already denied it.
Okay, so I don't understand why everybody's jumping to conclusions.
Let this play out.
President Trump is doing what he does.
This is why he is the elected president.
I think he's lucid and in control.
Have some patience, have some faith.
Don't jump to the wildest conclusions.
Don't let yourself get galaxy brained by social media and keep your wits about you.
If you can keep your head while everybody's losing theirs, then that's a good thing.
Kane, final word to you, 10 seconds.
Well, I'll be watching the masters.
I wonder how many people feel exactly like that.
Okay, God bless you, man.
Thank you for making the time.
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We have a friend of the show returning.
That would be independent journalist Nick Sortor.
You know him from X and his journalism on the ground, East Palestine.
He was one of the guys that helped really explode that story, and he's been doing so much more all over the place.
Nick, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Hey, guys, appreciate you having me.
And it's, dare I say, happy, what was it?
End of Civilization Day or whatever.
You getting right into it, Nick?
Well, you know, it's funny because I wanted to have you on actually to pivot our attention back to domestic issues because there's a lot of noise being made online.
I couldn't help but notice and sort of enjoy that, you know, this whole Frisco takeover by Indian H-1Bs has been making the rounds going viral on X. Meanwhile, there is clip after clip of that I find to be incredibly radicalizing in the best of ways of old city, like cities from like, you know, in the West,
whether that's Boston, New York, Paris, downtown Los Angeles, that are radicalized.
So I want to play these with you, Nick, because you've done so much on the ground investigative journalism when it comes to our immigration laws and enforcement, deportations.
And I think these things are all tied together.
So let's just, this is the one that made a lot of news, Nick.
The Red Sox opening day.
This was posted.
Go ahead and throw up 185.
This was posted by the Red Sox, and they had to shut down the comments because it was so radicalizing for people to see the splendor, the cleanliness, the orderliness, the well-dressedness of 1950s America before opening day of the Boston Red Sox.
I think it was like 19, I think it was just 1950s.
They didn't specify which year.
But in a very visceral sense, this triggered people in a wild way.
Blake, do you get triggered watching this?
Not as much as some people.
I do think people lose it.
I mean, the biggest tragedy here is that the Red Sox began winning World Series again.
So that's posted.
The America I believe in doesn't allow the Red Sox to win these people.
Okay, let's go to New York City, 1929.
Nick, I know you've spent some time in the city.
Unfortunately, no fat people.
186.
Look at this.
No garbage.
Look at the dress, how they're dressed.
Everybody's just clean.
Look at it.
There's not a scrap of trash on the sidewalks.
Top hats.
Nothing.
Go ahead, Nick.
What do these clips do for you?
It honestly, like, it feels nostalgic, and I wasn't even obviously alive at the time, right?
But it just, it's something that I feel like, you know, the reason that this is so triggering for people and the reason I have to turn off the comment sections on that Red Sox post is because, you know, people want this back, and we can get it back through mass deportations, mass denaturalizations.
And, you know, I know they feel like they're not allowed to say it, the average American, but this is what they want.
They don't want to go up to New York City and feel like that they're going to be, you know, women especially just aren't safe in these places anymore with third worlders around.
Look, I mean, women could walk around freely, New York City back in the day.
And I mean, the difference is massive.
This was America's golden age.
And the only way we get back to that is with mass deportations.
And that's why, you know, when you mentioned.
Uh, when I first came on here, that you know we're not talking enough about domestic policy anymore.
That's a hundred percent true.
It's a hundred percent true.
That is what is actually.
Uh, that's what your average American cares about is what's going on at home.
How do you think you can bring home or bring down housing prices in places like New York?
You start deporting all of the people that are taking up the housing on government dime.
You're competing with the government in these big cities because they are paying rent for illegals that are in the country.
I mean it's, it's pretty simple uh, how we get back to this.
It's just, do we have the will to do it?
Well there, I got one more video for you Nick, and I think that was really well said.
Uh, this is Trump posted this on TRUE Socials.
Well, this is uh, Paris 126 years ago.
Uh, some more b-roll for you here about the formerly amazingly pristine and orderly Western civilization that we are the inheritors of.
And then I want to contrast it with the Mall Of America.
Flash forward, this is the Mall Of America in 2026.
Right there, the the Mall Of Mogadishu.
You mean, i've been there uh unfortunately, because I had to keep going out and buying disguises.
Uh, because I, you know, kept getting chased in the street in Minneapolis and I basically just every I had to come home with like two, two new suitcases full of clothes.
Uh, because I had to go and buy it at the Mall Of Mogadishu.
There were no white people at the mall.
It's crazy.
I made a joke when we were there.
Uh, I said that the last remaining American relic in this place is the Hooters that sits up above the uh uh, the amusement park down there and that just closed.
So uh, I guess yeah yeah, a figure I really like to point to.
We mentioned New York, how great it used to look, how it was at its peak and it seems past its peak.
Throw up that chart.
I just saw uh, I just sent you guys.
It's something that's really revealing about the realities of immigration, because they say oh, it brings so much opportunity, it adds so much wealth.
The best way to measure how people really feel about immigration is how locals react to it.
That's a chart of New York's population change over time.
That big red bar you see at the bottom.
That is how much people New York lost on, net of domestic Americans.
So Americans moving into New York and moving out on net, they lost over a hundred thousand.
The only reason New York's population went up is from people having kids and from my the light blue bar, which is international migration.
This is what you see in New York, it's what you see in Illinois, it's what you see in California.
All those states only gain population because foreigners keep flooding in while actual Americans keep leaving.
People flee immigration.
They run away from the results of it.
And that's why you very rapidly have these major cities turning.
You look around and everyone's foreign because they're changing so rapidly.
It's mass importation of replacements from abroad, mass flight of anyone who was born in America.
Yeah, and I mean, I'm not far away right here.
You guys may remember Springfield, Ohio.
I'm actually very close to Springfield, Ohio right now.
And that town is still, these people were rejoicing when they heard that the Department of Homeland Security was non-renewing temporary protected status that Biden gave all the Haitians that live there, the Haitian invaders.
And now a federal judge, of course, stepped in and blocked that.
And so now, I mean, they're just, they're sitting here just, you know, there was some hope that they had that, okay, Trump is actually going to be able to do this.
He's actually going to give us our town back.
And a federal judge stepped in and blocked it.
I mean, it's sad that it's not even just places like New York that are suffering under this.
You've also got little, cool little towns like Springfield, Ohio that are suffering because of it.
It's sad to see.
It's really sad to see.
And now they're putting forward this so-called dignity act, okay?
Charlie actually has a tweet about this in 2025.
Go ahead and throw that up.
He said, warning, there are a handful of Republicans in Congress pushing the so-called Dignity Act of 2025, which would shield illegals from deportations if they've been in the U.S. since before 2021.
Here's the trick.
We don't know how, don't know when many or perhaps most illegals entered the U.S. All they'd have to do is say the magic words and they'd be allowed to stay.
Best case scenario would be bogged down in the courts forever.
Brandon Gill, who we love here on the show, says, make no mistake, the so-called Dignity Act is amnesty.
It gives amnesty to any illegal alien that crossed the border before 2021.
Any illegal married to a U.S. citizen and also massively expands visa, including permanent residence for F1 international cities.
Yeah, they say, so first of all, I love this headline from a Texas website.
Texas restaurant owners endorse Dignity Act to address this crap.
Anytime restaurant workers, homebuilders are coming out to endorse this, and also just the Dignity Act, like with immigration.
How about, oh, it's about the dignity of them.
How about national dignity?
How about the dignity of our border?
Well, Nick, they're talking about there's, and this is actually, I don't think this is a Trump thing.
There are people around the president right now saying, don't ever use the word mass deportation again.
The thing that we all got so excited to vote for in 2024.
Your take.
I want to throw a lot of takes on all of this.
This is like, this is what I would rather be talking about than the war.
I'm just saying.
So first of all, a little correction for you.
It's actually called the Dignidad Act.
They did it in Spanish.
They had the audacity to name the group in Spanish.
No, and apparently that stands for dignity for immigrants while guarding our nation to ignite and deliver the American Dream Act of 2025.
Deliver the American Dream Act.
How about we deliver the American dream to Americans first?
And then we can talk about helping out people from the rest of the world, right?
I mean, people are struggling with now gas prices, grocery prices are still too high.
Let's focus on that stuff first.
You know, you want your kids.
I don't have kids yet.
I haven't bought a house yet either, right?
You know, because housing is just incredibly expensive.
So going and delivering the American dream to people that broke into our country illegally is not exactly a priority of anybody.
And calling it bipartisan is very Misleading because it's pretty much just what's her name, Maria Salazar down there in Florida.
Yeah, I mean, like, she's the one that was like calling for us to go that had full-on kinetic war with Russia at one point.
I mean, she's she's not exactly the brightest of them all, but in terms of mass deportations, I'm going to continue using that word.
I'm going to continue.
I will not, you will never hear me say worst of the worst, okay?
Because in reality, if we only go after the worst of the worst, that means amnesty for the rest.
So, I think everybody should be on the table and target everybody.
What are we doing?
And it's so infuriating.
They always learned their playbook.
They come out and they always say, This isn't amnesty.
It's accountability or whatever.
And you can read the law.
I love following this Christian Heinz guy on X because he actually just reads the bills.
And you can read the Dignidad Act.
It'll say the Secretary or Attorney General shall adjust the status of an alien to be lawfully admitted for permanent residence, even if that alien is inadmissible or deportable from the United States.
I had to modify the language a bit.
It's written weird, but it basically says a person who is inadmissible or should be deported, we can declare them a lawful permanent resident.
It even says there's no numerical cap on how many people can benefit from this amnesty.
So, oh, if it turns out there's 30 million people here instead of 15 million or whatever number they give, it's too bad.
We're stuck with it.
You even can have convictions that are expunged or set aside.
And after that, a criminal record is no barrier to legal status.
You know what?
It's so frustrating about this.
And let's just explain what really happens here.
The second you give an inch, they will take a mile.
And that's why I love what you said about this worst first stuff.
Okay.
I cannot abide it.
You know why?
Because as soon as you do that, then everybody else thinks that they're the exception to the rule and everybody gets to stay.
It is amnesty for the rest.
And I cannot stand that.
And this is what they do every time.
They play into the Saab stories.
And guess what?
Businesses, hospitality, Ag, they all get in on the act because they don't want to invest in American workers or they don't want to invest in automation.
Sorry, I'm down to give us like some, you know, sort of moonshot for ag to automate and, you know, whether that's federal loans or whatever.
But we got to stop getting, we got to get off.
We have to wean the country off of cheap foreign like slave labor or we're never going to be done with this.
And we're just going to completely erase the American culture.
We have more to get to here, Nick, unless you want to chime in.
Well, I was just going to say real quick, one of the strategies that DHS had that was very, very effective was squeezing these people out and making them think that all of them were going to end up being deported by ICE at some point.
And so they would go ahead and self-deport.
That's why the self-deportation number was so high.
So if you keep telling them that, oh, you're only going after the worst of the worst, that means Sheridan Gorman's killer would have still been allowed in the country because, you know, before he wasn't the worst of the worst before he killed her.
I totally agree.
Targeting Sanctuary Cities00:02:25
That's such a good point, Nick.
Such a good point.
So, okay.
The Dignity Dignity Dod Act, total loser, non-starter.
It's got 20 Republicans, including, you know, what's his bucket from New York.
I just, okay.
It's not going to happen.
Okay.
This was an interesting idea that the new DHS secretary, Mark Wayne Mullen, proposed, and I think it has some feet, but let's talk about this whole issue.
We only got two minutes.
We got to hurry up.
24.
I believe sanctuary cities is not lawful.
Some of these cities have international airports.
If they're a sanctuary city, should they really be processing customs into their city?
Seriously, if they're a sanctuary city and they're receiving international flights and we're asking them to partner with us at the airport, but once they walk out of the airport, they're not going to enforce immigration policy.
Maybe we need to have a really hard look at that because we need to focus on cities that want to work with us.
I think this is a great idea.
Let's stick it to the sanctuary cities.
But in a deeper level, Nick, I know you're plugged in with this whole world.
What are you hearing about what might be coming next from DHS?
Well, I mean, I'm definitely giving Secretary Mullen some time to settle in, right?
We haven't seen any of the big sweeps, and I'm not sure we're going to see any more of those big sweeps like we were seeing in places like Chicago and Minneapolis and Los Angeles and such.
And, you know, I'm a little concerned about where the numbers are at right now.
I mean, they're not nearly high enough, guys.
And we got to double and triple the number of arrests that are being made per day in this country.
We're running out of time.
That's my concern.
Yeah, I mean, I think that's where we're at.
I mean, I've been honest with Secretary Mullen.
I said, listen, you know, you're a friend of the show.
You've come on the show, but if we start getting squish on this, then you'll hear criticisms from me.
But he is a good man, and he's a friend of the show, and we're rooting for a success.
We want commas, not dramas.
Listen, if you can stay off the front page and still get lots out, that's huge.
But I think your point's well made.
Nick Sorder, independent journalist.
Thank you, my friend.
Thank you.
California's Political Battle Lines00:12:19
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Welcoming now to the show is Steve Hilton.
He's running for governor of the Golden State, the formerly Golden State.
But it could be Golden again.
This is certainly what President Trump is saying.
Welcome back, Steve Hilton.
Hey.
How are you doing?
Great to be with you both.
Look at that beard.
I love it.
It's very gubernatorial.
It's very gubernatorial.
Well, can I tell you a little story?
So it's an accidental thing.
I was just lazy over the holidays a while back and didn't shave.
And then I had to do an early morning TV thing, expecting a ton of criticism about how scruffy I looked.
And instead, I got all this positive feedback.
So I kept going for a little bit.
And then the moment the clincher was when I did Don Jr.'s podcast soon after.
And, you know, we've known each other for years.
And the first thing he said when I came on the Zoom was, hey, man, love the MAGA beard.
I don't know.
Is that a thing?
It is.
Yeah, because it's masculine and manly.
So I need to do a two-by-two of Blake and Steve.
Just a two-up.
Get me off the screen.
See, this is what this is, I'm seeing a trend here amongst the people.
Beneath the glasses.
High testosterone, virility, facial hair power.
See, this is the MAGA look.
This is apparently what we're going for.
I am outclassed.
What can I say?
Steve, you have now been endorsed by President Trump in your run for governor.
I don't know if there's a backstory.
I don't know if you want to tell us any of the details how this came about, but I know this was sort of, it's very coveted.
So tell us about it.
Well, thank you very much.
It was a great honor and a total surprise in terms of its timing.
I had no idea that this was going to happen.
It was Sunday night, a beautiful last minute, Easter Sunday still on the West Coast where I am.
And so the first we heard about it was on social media.
And people were texting me and saying, have you seen this?
And so I took a look and amazing, thrilled, texted the president immediately to say thank you.
And he called and we had a great conversation.
I know him, you know, as he noted in his post, we've known each other for years.
I first met him when I interviewed him in my first term when I was hosting my show on Fox News.
And we talk and have kept in touch.
So it's a tremendous honor.
One thing I want to say, which I haven't said anywhere else, and for obvious reasons, this is the place to say it.
Look, I don't, you know, I think about Charlie every day.
Charlie, of course, endorsed me on day one of my campaign.
And I miss him like we all do so much.
And I don't run around saying Charlie would think this or Charlie would think that, but I just know how happy he is because I think of Charlie as being with us and happy he is to see this.
I know he would really make him very happy.
That's a thousand percent, I think, accurate.
And again, we don't want to put words in Charlie's mouth.
He's not here with us.
But I remember when you announced your run for governor and he was jubilant about it and instantly wanted to endorse you.
He didn't think twice.
He didn't say, hey, you know, let's line up the other guys in the race and compare and contract.
No, he just was, Steve's the guy.
We're going to get behind Steve.
And, you know, people, it's funny.
I actually wrote an op-ed for the California Post.
I was invited to write one on how Charlie loved California.
And it was just this, it was a really deep thing.
I don't think people understood this, but Charlie was in California a lot.
He was speaking there, speaking on campuses.
We have a ton of students in California.
And he loved the state.
He loved how beautiful it was.
He loved the people, like the old communities that really still anchor that state from a cultural standpoint, from an economic standpoint.
And he would always, we would land in California.
He goes, without fail, it's a shame what they've done to this place.
It's such a beautiful place.
It's a shame.
He always said that.
He always had this.
He said, I have a heart for California.
That's what he would always say.
And hated to see what they've done to it.
But I think that really, and as the president sees, I mean, actually, the conversation that we had, we talked a little bit about the campaign and the fact that it's not going to be easy to beat this Democrat machine in California.
They've been in power now 16 years, one party rule, running everything.
And they've got totally arrogant.
And they think they own this state and they're going to be in power forever.
They've got a shock coming.
It's going to be hard to beat them.
But actually, this is, we talked about that a little bit, but the bulk of our conversation was actually the exciting part here, which is that if we, you know, the elections got the primary in June, general election in November, all goes well.
I take office in January.
Suddenly, you're going to have America's biggest state, by far the biggest economy of all 50 states, the fourth biggest economy in the world.
And instead of what you've got now, which is these idiots just constantly fighting the president and his team on the common sense things they're trying to get done, whether that's fighting and stopping fraud or opening up energy production or forest management or enforcing immigration, all these things that are just being blocked by Gavin Newsome and the people in charge here, suddenly you're going to have a partner in the biggest state to make things happen that are positive.
So it's going to be great for California, but also for the whole country.
I mean, it would be incredible.
Give us a glimmer of hope here, right?
Because there's a lot of people watching right now, Steve, saying this is all great.
And, you know, how do you win this thing?
Yeah.
It's exactly the right question.
So there's a couple of things that make this year different.
Number one, the climate of opinion in California really has shifted very negatively against the Democrats.
So even in the last governor's race in 2022, in that basic question as to whether it's going to be a change election where we kick out the incumbents, is the state going on the right track or the wrong track?
The wrong track number was under 50%.
And now, you could squibble and say, well, what's wrong with people?
It's been going wrong for a long time in California.
But still, that's the number.
Today, and for the last year or so, it's been very strongly over 50%, sometimes as high as 60%, saying the state's going in the wrong direction.
So that's new.
That's a majority of people want change.
Secondly, in a midterm election, it's all about turnout.
Charlie knew that.
I mean, in fact, with the conversation that I had with Charlie when he said, you know, he asked me to Phoenix, when we went, I said, like nearly two years ago, to talk about how we would fight this campaign.
It's a turnout, changed the vote, explained everything that you guys have built there.
And it's all about the turnout.
We've got two unique things on the ballot this year in November, ballot initiatives that have now qualified that will really help drive Republican turnout.
Voter ID is going to be on the ballot in California.
Whatever happens with the Save America Act, we can vote for it here in California as the result of a ballot initiative.
And the second one, more distinctively Californian, Save Prop 13.
Prop 13 was the original taxpayer revolt, Howard Jarvis, all of that in the late 70s to cap property tax increases.
It's been undermined over the years.
There's a ballot initiative to restore the taxpayer protections.
Republicans differentially love those two initiatives.
It's going to help our vote get out.
The third factor, look at the Democrat candidates.
For the last 16 years in California, where they've been winning everything, you've had a kind of inevitable Democrat governor in waiting.
You had eight years of Jerry Brown, eight years of Gavin Newsome.
Look at them now.
They can't decide.
They're in a complete mess.
And who are the choices?
As the president.
Right.
They're not sending their best.
These are the three who've got a shot at being in the general election.
Eric Swalwell, Katie Porter, the billionaire climate fanatic, Tom Styer.
That's it.
That's who they've got.
So that's another one.
And the fourth one, this is very important.
As a result of the disastrous mismanagement, highest cost of living, highest unemployment, highest poverty rate, worst business climate, suddenly, and for the first time in 20 years, the business community in California is really engaged in this.
And for years, they've drifted along with it, put up with all the nonsense.
Now they've had enough.
And then you add to that this insane proposed billionaires tax that the unions are pushing.
And you've suddenly got the prospect of, in a general election, a fair fight between the unions and the Republican candidate backed by the business community.
We haven't seen that in 20 years.
So I think this is the year we can make something big happen.
I want to add another number to your list here.
You've got this Spencer Pratt campaign against Karen Vass in LA where he's running as an angry taxpayer.
Everybody's getting excited about that.
Could he do it?
Symbolic, he's the one where they said, oh, he's lived in Santa Barbara since their ineptitude let his house burn down.
Palisades.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And yeah.
And well, so that's where he was living.
Now he's moved out of town because his house burned down.
Right.
Well, you can't run because we let your house burn down.
Huh?
Funny how that works.
Yeah.
I mean, it's insane.
Spencer's great.
Continue.
Exactly.
And so I was there funny enough.
It was on the one-year anniversary of the fires.
We were both speaking at an event in the Palisades.
I was literally right back next to the stage, ready to go on.
And there was Spencer, and no one knew he was going to do it.
He announced his run for mayor.
It was just such an exciting moment.
I was swept away.
I endorsed him on the spot.
And that's exactly right.
Angry taxpayer.
That's a great summary of what's going on.
And that's why I mentioned Howard Jarvis in 1978, because we've got the prospect of that kind of taxpayer revolt this year as well across the state and in LA.
Well, listen, if there was ever a time we needed you to absolutely pull the golden rabbit out of the hat, it's right now, Steve Hilton.
It could be such a huge shot in the arm for the movement.
And we just, we're so enthusiastically behind you.
Final 30 seconds here, Steve.
Give us an update on the polling.
Is it still the two R's ahead?
I mean, could we get this weird jungle primary thing?
You could do, but it's very unlikely.
I've always thought that the machine, the Democrat machine, is going to get their act together and put a puppet in there, whether that's Swalwell or Katie Porter, whoever it is.
I just can't see them just surrendering California.
And remember, with this top two system, in the past, they've spent millions of dollars to elevate a Republican because they're so arrogant and so I think it's going to be me against a Democrat, but I think we can beat them this year.
Steve Hilton, the next governor of the great state of California, the soon-to-be great state of California.
Thank you, Steve.
God bless you, man.
Thank you, guys.
See you soon.
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All right, I got to hit this clip.
Again, Tucker is both of our friends.
We know him.
I'm not trying to make this personal.
I want to go after an idea here, okay?
Because it was said on his show that capitalism shouldn't be anywhere near Christianity.
Christianity is socialist at its core.
And I want to talk about this because I think it's really, really important because it's something we've heard throughout the years.
But it's one of those things that bubbles up and you got to kind of address it.
SOT 20.
Christianity is more, and I don't like the word socialist with the weight it carries, but Christianity is socialism at its core.
Non-authoritarian.
Well, non-authoritarian is, I think, probably apt, right?
Because so Tucker's point there, I think, is fine.
But his guest, I don't know his name either, by the way.
If somebody could get me his guest, the guest name.
But Christianity is not socialist.
So a lot of times people look to the book of Acts and they point out that the early church was encouraged to share and pool resources together.
So this is in the very formative moments of the church being birthed in Jerusalem.
And there's that crazy story where I think it's Ananias and Sapphira where they get the earth opens up and swallows them because they sold their land and they only gave half to the disciples and then they kept half for themselves.
So people point to these verses, but here's the key differentiator.
If you actually look at what that is, it was voluntary sharing and pooling of resources.
This was not state-mandated or sanctioned redistribution of wealth, which is what socialism is.
I see you nodding along.
I want to give you a chance to chime in here too.
I mean, there's a very fundamental reason that socialism has always manifested as hostile to Christianity, everywhere it's meaningfully been implemented.
Christianity, it's like Christianity actually is this like synthesis of different moral impulses.
The attack from Nietzsche, other critics of Christianity is that it's slave morality, that it rides on resentment, that it attacks successful people.
But it's actually not.
What it is, is it's offering you the framework for why you should be the stronghorse, as it were.
You should be an innovator.
You should be someone who creates, who adds value, but you have moral obligations toward those who are weak, towards those who are helpless, toward those who are the least among you, that the best way, as Charlie would say, the best way to be masculine, a Christian, masculine person, is to protect the weak, to help those weaker than you.
But you are at the same time, you are not embracing this attitude of we need collective ownership of everything.
Like it's basically bad to be successful.
And that's an important distinction.
And I think you can see that because if you look around at America, America is not a nation where we have true poverty in the sense of people starving to death, people living in total immisceration as a result of want.
What we have is we actually have people who've become and been trained to be parasitic effectively.
They've been trained to be helpless.
They've been trained to live on the dole.
People who could be working and they basically just refuse to.
They don't want to.
They've gotten addicted to things that keep them from doing so.
And that's very different from poverty as it existed in ancient Judea.
I totally agree with that.
As a matter of fact, Paul had an admonition for the early church.
He says, and this comes from 2 Thessalonians 3.10, Paul says, for even when we were with you, we would give you this command.
If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.
So there's a direct admonition in the scriptures to work with your own hands.
Paul was a tent maker.
Sometimes the church would provide him resources.
Sometimes he had to provide his own resources.
So there is both things playing out here.
Now, what I want to get to, and this is the beauty of Christianity.
Christianity is saying, work with your own hands.
If you don't work, you don't eat.
So no laziness here, okay?
Which is a huge problem with socialist economies.
But there's another verse here that I think sometimes gets conflated, and that is 1 Corinthians 1, 26 through 28.
So for consider your calling, brothers.
Not many of you were wise according to worldly standards.
Not many were powerful.
Not many were of noble birth.
But God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise.
God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong.
God chose what is low and despised in the world, even things that are not, to bring to nothing things that are.
So what he's saying is there is an equality within the kingdom of heaven.
You have dignity before God because you are an image bearer of your creator.
But that is not economic equality.
The Bible is very pragmatic about the fact that some have much, some have little.
We would love for us to voluntarily give of our wealth to tithe to make sure that we're taking care of the needy, the poor, the downtrodden, the widows, the orphans.
That is very, very much, I would say it's one of the core principles of Christianity in practice of the church, the works of the church.
But that's very different than the works of the state.
There's no wealth confiscation.
There's no seizing the means of production in scriptures.
And I know that's communist, not socialist.
But don't conflate the equalizing of human condition about your worth, about your value, because God does choose the wise, the foolish things to shame the wise.
He does use people that are not of noble birth.
He does use lowly things.
And that's a beautiful thing about our scriptures.
But it also says, if you don't work, you don't eat.
And so I just want to make sure that we're not conflating these concepts.
It's very, very easy and very in vogue to sort of say that, you know, Christianity is a socialist thing.
And let's just say it's been done for years.
What nations have ever spread Christianity around the globe?
It's never been a socialist one.
It's always been the ones that are enterprising.
The United States, Britain before it.
Like, those are the great missionary nations, actually.
There's actually a pretty big connection, I would say, between you might call it the capitalist ethos and the missionary ethos.
That you are, you go out, you create your own thing.
You try to change the world.
You try to add value.
You try to build things.
Socialism is very hostile to that.
There's nothing that encourages you to build in socialism.
It encourages you to take.
It encourages you to feel entitled.
It encourages you to stagnate.
And nothing ever changes the world with that attitude.
Amen.
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