Ask Us Anything 249: Insurrection Act? New World Order Canada? Charlie’s Mentors?
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Anthony, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
What is your question?
Good to see you again or hear from you again.
What's going on, guys?
Well, first thing, Andrew, really, with your team last night, really?
Before I get to my question.
Are you talking about Tucker?
Kyle Tucker?
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Oh, okay.
This is how I feel about it.
All right.
So to my question, the Insurrection Act, I sit on the fence with it.
I understand the purpose of why it should be done.
But with the midterms, could this hurt the GOP?
Because we see Americans like, why this is bad.
This is not our country.
I'm going to vote against you.
Even some Republicans might vote against GOP people.
I think that's a great question.
And it really has to be at the heart of everything we do.
Let's be real.
We live in a country with elections, where political issues matter, where the way something looks matters.
And we've talked about that a bit on this show with this ICE showdown that I hope in the White House, inside ICE, they are having discussions.
How are we going to handle possible confrontations and showdowns that can happen?
So we said, for example, if they're trying to use police, if they follow through on threats to have police directly block ICE or try to arrest ICE officers, don't wing your response to that.
They need to say, what should we be, what are we telling ICE agents to do if a local police officer tries to detain them for arresting an illegal?
What should they do if these local police officers are getting in the way?
That all has to be planned out.
And the same goes for the Insurrection Act because you're absolutely right.
You can't just look like you're stomping down on people and recklessly arresting people or doing random roundups.
You have to make that case.
We're going after malefactors who are recklessly breaking the law.
And so, frankly, I know our guests were just arguing in favor of it.
I personally feel if it's 200 people around one federal building, I'm not sure I'm sold on Insurrection Act yet.
That might be send more federal agents and make sure these people are getting arrested before I would go full bore and say we need to call out the military for a few hours.
I actually agree with that.
I was thinking about it in the break, and I'm very pro-Insurrection Act, first of all, because I think you deal with this issue quickly, then it goes away quickly, right?
And then we get to focus on fraud in Somalia.
And again, remember, people have very short-term memories.
And when you draw these things out too long, it sinks deeper into the subconscious.
It's when you get Joe Rogan and other people that are like, listen, I think Joe Rogan is the GOAT of podcasters.
I think he's more good than bad.
He's wrong about this.
And it's because he's a normie.
It's because he's not like a policy wonk.
He's not thinking through all of this.
And secondly, he doesn't understand or is not connected to the fact that these issues that we know, and Blake and I fully understand this because we've looked at the fertility rates.
We've looked at the long-term implications.
We are in the process of losing our country.
The erasure of American culture is happening now unless we stop it.
And I don't want that country for my kids.
I don't want third worldism in my country.
I don't want a country rock by fraud and corruption and Somali pirates.
I'm done with it.
I don't want it.
I want the force to be leveled now when we have the levers of power.
That being said, I think you could get basically everything you want without the Insurrection Act.
If you surge federal forces, you make this thing go away, zero degree temperatures at night.
We're going to see this problem go away quicker, I think if you handle it in a suave, smoother way.
I don't think you need to go full insurrection act.
All right, Mikey, break the tie.
No, pro-Insurrection Act.
But I do think you need to kind of counterbalance it a little bit, especially going into the midterms, because we should be and could be seeing Trump out there campaigning right now and doing massive rallies and, you know, when there's crazy news.
But then to Andrew's point, the more you talk about it, the more it's an obsession, the more it has this like microscope on it.
And any small mistake, people just like hyper-fixate to.
But this is why they fund the protests, too.
This is why Soros seed monies some of these far-left groups, because you can get 200 people and you could shave off five points of popularity for Trump.
200 people.
But if everybody's focusing right now on everything that ICE is doing, why don't we use the opportunity to put Fauci in prison and do some other crazy stuff to make some news, you know?
Well, I mean, that's not a bad idea.
Well, listen, I know the base would love that.
I mean, here's the thing.
We have to confront this fact.
I mean, everybody here at this table wants and demands results right away.
We want all these people gone.
We want mass deportations.
Frankly, I want a net zero immigration moratorium, something Charlie and I talked about a lot.
I want us all of these things, right?
These are the things that are really going to deliver results.
Voter ID, everything.
But when you start getting into these militarized street altercations, you just have to understand that the vast majority of the country is not thinking down the road like we are.
They're thinking about their video games.
They're thinking about grocery bills.
They're not thinking about the demographic replacement that's happening in the country and want real results now.
And so you just have to understand that and play that out politically.
Plus, we live in the era of social media where every freaking video, you know, if you think about Insurrection Act has been called, what, 17 times in U.S. history?
17 times in history.
17 presidents.
Yeah.
By 17 presidents.
None of these really happened in the modern media era.
The closest analog we would have parallel was LA in 92, and that was still like over-the-shoulder cameras, right?
We didn't have social media phones and all of the things.
So the whole calculus has to be approached differently.
That's why I think you almost have to be subtler.
You have to sort of try and make the crowds disperse, attack them one by one, get it done quick.
And there's an interesting thing to think about this.
Do you know what the mandate of heaven is?
I want to say a yes, but the Chinese historically have a concept of the mandate of heaven, which is a fallout.
A ruler who is good will have the mandate of heaven.
And a ruler who is losing the mandate of heaven, that is, the heavens are displeased with this role.
But bad things will happen to him.
No, no, it's not stupid.
No, because if the ruler just dies for no reason, they're like, oh, he loses it.
No, no, no, no, it's not like that.
What it is is a dynasty is losing the mandate of heaven, and the evidence is that there are signs of heaven's displeasure.
And that is, it would be like natural disasters would be signs of this, but also rebellions and chaos breaking out.
And the reason I mentioned that is I think there's an element of that in how the American people will react to something like this.
So your best argument for the Insurrection Act is if they can shut this down immediately, but the biggest worry would be what if they try to shut it down and instead you get similar outbreaks in cities across the United States.
And the reason they'll be upset, it's not even how they feel about immigration policy one way or the other.
They'll just think like, oh, there's chaos.
There's chaos in the realm.
And they're not thinking in literal mandate of heaven terms, but they'll be thinking bad stuff seems to be going on in cities.
There's chaos.
And President Donald Trump is the president.
So he sort of gets the blame for it.
It also would be the biggest thing.
Yeah, it also plays into the narrative that they've seeded for the last 10 years.
Trump's a tyrant.
He's a dictator.
He's a fascist.
Look at now.
We have jack boot thugs masked on the streets arresting American citizens.
That's not at all what's happening, but you still have to come to grips with the fact that half the country is spewing that narrative.
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You know how much money $45 billion is?
It's like, it's like one.
It's like one-third of the L.A. Dodgers' payroll.
Wow.
That's not true.
Listen, I'm all in favor of paycheck baseball because, listen, we're two World Series in a row.
It's good for baseball to have a villain, by the way.
It is.
Because now everybody talks about it.
It was called the New York Yankees.
Yeah, I know.
And you know what's funny?
I got two texts from New York Yankees fans last night after the Tucker signing.
And it's like amazing because even they're bitter at us.
And I'm like, you guys have all the money in the world.
I mean, until Mamdani taxes you to smithereens and all that.
But it's not like LA doesn't have high taxes as well.
Ian, you're up next.
Hey, go Dodgers first and foremost, man.
Ian.
Ian.
My man.
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And by the way, one of the things we're going to be doing, I just was talking with E about this.
We're going to be doing, you don't even know this yet, but we're going to have like family business calls.
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Like we're just going to do a Zoom call.
Everybody can join.
We'll ask you what you want us to cover.
So if we're missing stories that you think are important, if you want to have us book certain guests, whatever, like we'll just do all of that.
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And so it's really looking forward to that.
So we're going to be rolling that out soon.
What's your question, Ian?
Yeah, so I had a couple, but my main one is I just don't understand with all these people that are shouting free Palestine earlier the last couple years.
Why are they not saying the same thing about Iran?
My dad's from Tehran, Iran.
He left there in 1977 to get away from the revolution that was coming.
And now the people are fighting back.
And it's pretty clear to me it's a spiritual battle.
You know what I mean?
There's people that are Christian over there and they're hiding underground and they're converting to Christianity en masse and being killed.
And it's just crazy to me that this isn't like national news.
It's just being swept under the rug.
So I just don't know what's going on.
So many thoughts, Blake.
Do you want to take it first?
I mean, there's a lot of monologue over there.
One of the funny things is you do hear some of them do it, but there's a true split in the left.
And you really see some of these, there was a coalition that came together that essentially centered on hating Israel.
And they're now fracturing over this because some of them are like, do we just like democracy and protests?
Or do we kind of like Iran because they shot missiles at Israel?
You see a real split on this.
And the answer, honestly, one of the biggest reasons for why they don't care is it gets at the heart of why so many people dislike Israel in the first place.
And it's because, frankly, for a lot of them, they dislike it.
Some of them dislike it because it's Jewish.
But a lot of them dislike it because it's culturally European, because they're culturally considered white, essentially, because they're considered an outpost of colonialism.
They basically, they like to hate on that.
They hate on them for the same reason they hate ordinary middle Americans or the reason they hate natives of Britain or natives of Germany or native Swedes.
And so that is their safe way for them to really amp themselves up in enjoying that hatred.
That's why you saw BLM Chicago celebrate 10-7 because they would like to do 10-7 in your neighborhood too.
They just can't get away with it.
And indulging that for Iran, where they're actually trying to overthrow a tyrannical regime that doesn't code as any of those things, doesn't give them that release they want.
That's what's at the heart of it, in my opinion.
Yeah, I think I agree with a lot of that.
And I just want to underscore what you said.
There's a ton of Christians.
People don't realize this.
And I actually have a pastor friend of mine who's going to be visiting me in about a week who's been doing street evangelism.
He's gotten arrested a couple of times in Iran by doing this.
And he said that after Charlie died, that these they started praying for these kids.
They would go out in the street.
Before it was pretty kind of timid.
And now they're just like roaring lions.
That's his words, not mine.
And they'll go out and they have just so much energy and courage to go share the gospel all over Iran.
So this is happening as we speak.
I believe God's doing miraculous things.
He's shown up in dreams and visions.
And people's hearts are changing in Iran.
And I think that a lot of people, you know, we had Elika LeBon on earlier this week, and she was explaining the religious dynamics of Iran are not exactly what you think.
I think there's a lot of devout Muslims.
I sort of have somewhat of a disagreement, but there is a lot more variety and mixed.
I mean, she was right about there historically been a Zoroastrianism or whatever.
You know more about this.
Well, that's 1500 years ago.
It was a long, long time ago.
But yeah, but those predicates are there, and the legacy, I think, has an impact on a larger cultural level.
But the point is, Iran is a very mixed place.
It's a very diverse place.
And there's a lot of dynamics that we're not really aware of as Westerners.
But here's ultimately, to Blake's point, it is to go after the Iranian regime would be to admit that there is oppression, real oppression, political, spiritual, economic, that doesn't come from the white man.
So it doesn't fit their narrative.
This is coming straight from one of their intersectional privileged classes.
It's coming from other Muslims.
So Muslims are oppressing Muslims.
Therefore, it doesn't fit into any of their convenient narratives.
Therefore, they're uninterested.
Whereas Hamas, Israel, Israel was the white European coded versus the brown people.
So they instantly saw oppressor versus oppressed.
This doesn't work in any of that narrative, and it exposes the truth and the lies that they've been believing and spreading.
So they want nothing to do with it.
Go ahead, Mikey.
No, I mean, you have it right.
It's the oppressor and the oppressed.
But ultimately, I mean, in the situation of Free Palestine, the oppressed is the Palestinians and the oppressor is the Jews.
And in Iran, the oppressor is a Muslim regime.
And the oppressed are women that have to wear hijibs.
And so Americans just like objectively care more about it.
Jews oppressing us all the time.
And so we're going to care more about that.
Women are being oppressed.
It's not just women, by the way.
I mean, it's young people.
It's anybody that will.
The merchants.
I love that message.
Well, how much out of curiosity?
The Silk Road is being broken down by the Ayatollah.
I'll play devil's advocate here.
I mean, when we send aid and money and resources to the oppressor, then it's easier for Americans to want to team up with the oppressed because part of their taxpaying are going to killing the oppressed.
And so it transcends that.
The truth is, if you read it, like, look at the history of it, this has just always been a big focus for the entire world.
The world just cares about Israel-Palestine on either side more.
It's a bigger microphone.
It's a symbol.
What you feel about the Israel-Palestine conflict, it has identity.
It's a proxy for how you view the world.
So are you pro this or pro-that?
And that, I think, is what causes it to have such enduring power.
In the same way, there are kind of symbolic issues in America that might people care about that maybe.
Yes, and I totally agree with that.
But I do think that there is another piece of it where it just simply cuts against this intersectional coalition that the Red-Green Alliance, right?
Because in order to come out in favor of one side or the other in Iran, you essentially have to come out against part of your red-green alliance.
You have to come out against Muslims, which are which are part of this communist, Islamist coalition, Momdani, all of these things.
So it's just inconvenient for them.
That's the truth.
Ultimately, I think Blake is right.
It's just such a big topic of Israel-Palestine.
It's like the topic that literally never goes away.
Whereas Iran is an issue right now, just how like Christians in Nigeria were an issue a month ago.
Like Christians are still being persecuted in Nigeria.
But we're not talking about it.
It's almost there's infrastructure around the issue to keep people actually caring about it.
I wonder why.
You know, it's almost like people have like a deep hatred.
It's because people want to see America burn.
They really do.
These people hate capitalism.
They hate European culture, which they believe is the main driver of capitalism around the world.
And therefore, they want to dismantle white culture, European heritage, Western world.
They hate Christendom because it's the backrop and the bedrock of the backbone and the bedrock of the structures that enliven it and that allow it to continue existing.
And it really is.
All of these things become enemy number one.
And that's why you see anti-white hatred in a majority white country is because they're growing in size.
We're shrinking in size.
They can feel that their power is expanding.
And that's why what was so powerful, what Trump did actually in 2024, was because we had a multi-ethnic coalition of people that were wanting the actual American dream.
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They just wanted more money in their pockets.
They wanted more take-home pay.
They wanted better jobs.
They wanted more economic opportunities.
Those are winning messages, and we have to stay on point, stay on message.
We have a next question from – We actually have a follow-up from Ian that I think is a pretty good one.
Yeah, go for it.
So he's asking, follow-up, who are Charlie.
Oh, wait.
I mean, are you still there, Ian?
You can.
Yeah, yeah, I'm still here.
Yeah, just yeah.
So I just wanted to know basically who are Charlie's like biggest mentors because like you try Googling it and it's just a mess right now.
So yeah.
Well, he also had so many.
Yeah.
And it was also for like different seasons and different subjects.
And so like the people that got him there at the beginning is you have Bill Montgomery, who Charlie talked about.
You can even read about him on Charlie's Wikipedia page.
Bill was like a kindly old guy from Chicago who was like the guy you'd see at CPAC handing out tracks.
Yeah, exactly.
And like wearing the American flag with an eagle on it.
He was just kind of like, you know, yeah, but he would like to bring Charlie to the room.
Like as a young person, it's very uncomfortable to put yourself in like the room, the situation.
But he would like bring him there.
And then he met Foster Freeze, who's kind of one of his early on mentors who's the big continuer and continued being a big mentor.
Yeah.
Till his death.
And then also like spiritually, morally, and then educationally, like he would kind of pick different people.
Like Dennis Prager was one of those one he'd bring up a lot.
Yeah.
Charlie would listen to all of Dennis Prager's fireside chats.
More than that.
You listened to all of them.
Oh, yeah.
His team listened to him.
He would do notes on him and break them down for him.
Charlie got bought the 1980s.
It was like the what I don't even know what you call them.
Like those things you put in.
It was like recordings of Dennis from like 1980.
Oh, you're talking about like a PM quarter.
It was like a.
Yeah, and it was staticky and old, and it was when Dennis was like 20.
So this was a long time.
What do you call that?
It's like the eight high eight or shoot.
Yeah.
No, it's before that.
Yep.
But Charlie bought those and would listen to them.
And you'd be in this like two-hour car ride with Charlie and you're like falling asleep because Charlie's like listening to Dennis.
But also Frank Turek, you know, he had so many.
So the eight millimeters.
There was the beta, beta max.
These are the things before VHS.
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I wish somebody would ask about Canada.
Just for we would love to talk about Canada.
Oh, yeah.
If you have Canada questions, if you have a Canada question, definitely ping us because we were talking about it.
But for now, we have Micah.
Micah, are you there?
Unmute yourself and what's your question?
Hey, good day, gentlemen.
Howdy.
I'm calling in today from the state of Wyoming.
I don't have a question about Canada, but I do have a question about a recent ruling from our state Supreme Court.
On the 6th of December, so 10 days ago, the state Supreme Court says that an abortion ban is not constitutional in the state of Wyoming.
Now, the court passed this down based on the fact that they called abortion health care, which was the court's argument there.
So just a couple of questions.
This, of course, is a shock in deep red states, especially Wyoming.
So questions about what we can do to change future outcomes like this.
And then also how we can change the libertarian thought process that's that's not very strong on the pro-life issues.
So any thoughts that you have?
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you.
So while we Emma notified us that a question on this was coming up, so I did some like quick research on it and looking into it.
And so just for those who are not aware, which I imagine is most people, Wyoming is not our biggest state.
So Wyoming has a Supreme Court.
They're chosen for eight-year terms.
There's only five of them, eight-year terms picked by the governor.
It's a deep red state.
So we have to be frank about this failure.
All five members of the Wyoming Supreme Court were chosen by a Republican governor.
They have to pick from a list of nominees that are submitted by a judicial nominating commission in the state.
I don't know how the staff of that is chosen.
But you see, basically, this is how you can get a lot of this stuff is this indirect nomination.
Instead of the governor just picking whoever he wants, they instead have this nominating commission.
The judge then picks the governor then picks from the three nominees they put forward.
And then there is a retention election on the statewide ballot.
And because I'm approaching this quite recently, I don't know the exact way these specific justices were chosen, but there's a rationale between the judges right now.
So the rationale on the decision, by the way, is so, first of all, they decide abortion just automatically counts as health care.
But an interesting part of it, their justification for this, which was also reached by lower courts in the state of Wyoming, when Obamacare was passed back in 2010, the state reacted by passing its own constitutional amendment that basically says Wyomings have a right to make decisions about health care in the state.
And the intent of this was to push back on any drive towards centralization.
It was against Obamacare, the fear that Obamacare was going to dictate their medical decisions.
Oh, you can only get this thing or you're only allowed to have this type of insurance.
It was pushing back on that.
And it had this unintended consequence that happened a decade plus down the road.
So a few things you have to do.
First of all, you have to watch out.
You have to watch who's getting on your Supreme Court.
First of all, you have to make sure that the people who are getting, who are making the choice of who even can be nominated for the Supreme Court are aligned.
I have some intel on this.
The Wyoming Judicial Nomination Commission includes the Chief Justice, then three lawyers elected by the Wyoming State Bar.
So there's a state bar question there.
And that is currently Devin O'Connell, Mandy Goode, Clint Langer, and then three non-lawyers appointed by the governor.
So at least the government is a good person.
So that's a majority in Rocco O'Neill.
This is so similar to what we actually had in, remember when we talked about this in Israel where they were trying to reform the court?
So the Chief Justice and then three people on the state bar are a majority there.
There are three people appointed by someone else, non-lawyers, but they can have a majority of people that is basically self-perpetuating of the state's legal elites and the current Supreme Court justice who's already picked by this mechanism.
So frankly, I would say, first of all, you should probably look into replacing that mechanism.
And you might need to amend your Constitution to do that.
I don't know the way that's done in Wyoming.
And I also want to make sure we address the how do you change people's minds.
One of the things that's not as well known about these Republican states out west, they are less church.
They are less religious than other ones.
So if you go to Oklahoma, if you go to Tennessee, there is a high religious affiliation of conservatives.
I can vouch for that in Nevada too.
Yeah.
Western states, once you get west of kind of the Great Plains line, basically when you cross the Missouri River and the line going down from it, you still have a lot of conservatives, but they are more libertarian.
They're less likely to be members of a church, even if they vote our way.
And so they're less aligned on these issues.
So we actually have to continue the work of trying to spiritually witness to these people.
You're not just trying to block the decline of religiosity.
These are probably the states where you have the most people who are maybe open to it.
They vote our way.
They have conservative values.
They're probably culturally Christian or culturally Catholic, but they're not.
It's a cultural conservatism.
It's an ethos of the West.
But it's also, they just didn't grow up.
These places have never had as many churches.
And in the South, it's that you're in a church culture because there's been churches there for 200 years and your parent, your grandparent, maybe your great-grandfather built the church and your grandparents remembers, your parents remembers.
You are in a society where membership of a church is almost taken for granted.
It's much easier to get into that world.
Out west, it's much more do-it-yourself.
So we get some great Christians out there because it's such a do-it-yourself thing.
You have to be really committed.
We saw this in California with the rise of the megachurches.
Exactly.
Calhoun.
There are fewer people who are getting culturally assimilated into that.
And we have to do the work to legalize that.
This question, though.
So the ruling is based on the fact that they consider abortion health care.
How did that definition get established in the state of Wyoming?
I'm not sure.
I'd have to read the decision.
My instant analysis when I was hearing your question was that you have to pass a state law that redefines abortion as not health care.
And that's what stinks is I think that would have been really easy if they'd written their law like that in 2012 and they'd say, by the way, abortion isn't health care.
Whereas now it's going to be tougher.
It's going to be tougher now because, let's be frank, Dobbs got repealed.
And now people are, if you try to pass that, everyone's aware this is an abortion ban up or down vote.
And as we've seen outside of Florida and South Dakota, we've had a hard time with up or down votes.
We've been able to pass strict abortion laws because we're able to pass it in the legislature where our guys are aligned.
And most people are not going to, you know, flip to the Democrats over that, even if we lose that up or down vote.
And that could be a struggle in Wyoming.
I'll just be frank.
I totally agree.
By the way, I just, we talked about the spiritual implications.
One last point I want to make is I believe every state that succeeds and overcomes the evil of abortion and passes a state ban.
I don't care about all the naysayers.
I don't care about the politics of it.
I believe your state will be blessed.
I genuinely believe that.
Mikey, do you have any thoughts on it?
No, this is great.
Blake, I could sit back and listen to you explain things all day.
I'm like, I'm loving it.
Micah, who's next?
Josiah, I think.
Mike and Josiah, who do we got?
Matthew?
Josiah, Josiah.
Let's go.
Hey, guys.
I am here in upstate New York, about 20 minutes from Canada.
And so I would be going to Ottawa tomorrow.
So I was like, hey, love to hear about Canada if you have something to add.
Oh, boy.
We now have Leeway to talk about Canada.
We've got a new state after Greenland.
Oh, boy.
Man, we can wish for that.
No, don't do it.
We are.
The truth is we wanted to talk about it because it's very interesting what's unfolding north of the border.
Oh, this is a can of worms.
People aren't noticing this because there's a lot of other things.
We'll play the clips.
Yeah, let's do those clips.
So we've got, this is this, so it's a one-two.
It's a shot chaser to use a secular vernacular.
517, this is Prime Minister Kearney, big lib, says Canada's partnership with China sets us up well for the new.
Actually, hold on.
Hold on.
Yeah, all right.
So we didn't get the clip I wanted, but that's fine.
This is them announcing this new partnership with the CCP, 517.
I believe the progress that we have made in the partnership sets us up well for the new world order.
He couldn't have said that more ominously.
Yeah, that was him intentionally signaling to D.C. and Donald Trump that he has his own agency and they're going to push back and become a proud little puppet state, vassal state of the CCP.
But he elaborated on this.
Should we do the follow-up?
Yeah, let's do the follow-up.
So they asked him, what did he mean by it?
It's a follow-up interview.
520.
One of the things you said in the public remarks was this partnership, Canada and China, this new partnership, sets us up well for the new world order.
What did you mean by that?
What is the new world order?
Fancy word.
Like the architecture, the multilateral system that has been developing these is being eroded, to use a polite term.
Undercut, use another term.
So the question is, what gets built in that place?
But the evolution of the global financial system, the role of the Reminb over time, the evolution of cross-border payments.
And look, the expectation is that rather than these being developed necessarily through the IMF, WTO, and other multilateral organizations, it is going to be coalitions that develop them, not for the world, but for subsectors of the world.
First of all, Mike, do your impression of Carney.
He's got his hand maneuvers there.
You never know what to do with this.
There's a lot that's interesting there, though.
And so first of all, the announcement today that's kind of a money, you know, the follow-up to this is they announced today Canada is, they had been aligned with us on a lot of very aggressive anti-China tariffs, huge tariffs on cars, some other exports.
And they announced today they are cutting their tariffs on Chinese automobiles.
So these electric cars that they're all over the world.
You never see them in America because we tariff them so hard, but we might see Canadians driving them.
And in return, China is cutting tariffs they had imposed on Canadian exports, like I think canola oil is something that they were exporting, stuff like that.
But it's really interesting what he's saying because what he's saying is basically an earthquake.
Canada has always been in the United States orbit.
Let's be frank, it's always been a major ally of ours, even when we had differing governments.
So I have a question then.
So if we're taking Greenland because China and Russia have an influence on that territory, and that is our reasoning to do so, does that mean we also need to take Canada because they're being influenced by China and Russia?
Well, I mean, this is the thing.
So we can't.
Listen, I'll be frank.
I've just got to say this.
This happened because I think we recklessly bullied Canada just after, you know, kind of during that transitional period to the new administration.
President Trump was going on about the 51st state thing.
First of all, like Charlie, I don't want Canada as a 51st state.
They're very liberal on certainly like abortion.
I'd take out euthanasia.
Even Alberta would, I'll tell you, I think you'd be surprised.
I think Alberta would be a blue state.
Because one reason they have, they have multiple parties.
So you can get a conservative government with 35, 40% of the vote, which, you know, you can't do that in the United States.
There's only two major parties.
And so we did that.
And unfortunately, it did mean there was an election.
Trudeau was imploding.
They looked primed to lose power.
And unfortunately, Canada's national identity, a lot of it is bound up with being not America or being like America, but way more left-wing.
And I think that really exacerbated that element of Canadian national pride.
And it made them go for this Carney guy who's this globalist lizard.
And what he's saying there when he says, oh, we're going to see sub-sectors of the world instead of multilateral organizations.
What he's saying is the IMF, the WTO, institutions that America built are going to be replaced by ones China might build with Canada.
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So another piece of this is, you know, because we've got the BRICS nation, right?
Which is an affront to the U.S. dollar as the currency of the reserve currency.
Yeah, seriously.
I'm not kidding.
That's exactly where I was going.
So you've got China.
Now you're going to have Canada.
And this is a direct, listen, you've got the NATO alliance.
You've got a bunch of libs in the NATO alliance that Canada is part of that.
The United States is part of that.
And President Trump is demanding reform on immigration.
He's making plays and treaties very seriously at Greenland.
He's invaded Venezuela.
He's telling the UK that their speech laws are not compatible with our values and free speech.
He's demanding all of these things that they pay up in NATO.
Here's what I would say, though.
They've got no cards ultimately because they do need us to protect them.
But here's a wild thought.
Do we care if the old world orders and alliances are changing?
Do we actually care?
Because in some ways, yes, in some ways, no.
The main reason this is a threat, though, it's not even because of the dollar.
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I would say that would be threat number two.
But threat number one is because if our adversaries of China and Russia are going to attack us, it's going to come over the Arctic.
That is actually their most direct attack line.
And that's why we have NORAD.
That's why we're telling Denmark that we need Greenland.
If Canada becomes a puppet, an owned puppet of the CCP, that is a direct national security issue for the United States of America.
It is.
I just feel tragic because I think this was avoidable.
It was.
Of course it was.
Also, I don't want to blackpill here.
I don't think Canada is going to end up going.
No, I think this is a bunch of saber-rattling.
This is a bunch of saber-rattling.
They won't leave the G7.
They won't.
It's just not going to happen.
Just to put a finer point on this, I actually agree with Mikey.
I think this is him.
This is Carney trying to act like, because he's a total beta male.
He's a total beta male.
And this is what the left is built on, feminist women and beta males.
I don't think he's a beta male.
I think that's a mistake.
I actually think he is.
I actually think he is.
He's a cold-blooded lizard.
But I don't think a beta male would do this.
Well, I do when they're commies.
At the end of the day, this guy, yeah, he's going to say.
See, commies are not beta.
Comies can be very alpha.
Like, Joseph Stalin was not a Min Sene beta.
All right.
Beta is evil or not.
Yeah, for emails, freedomatcharliekirk.com is.
A lot of them are.
Is Carney, the prime minister of Canada, is he a beta or not a beta?
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I would be remiss if I didn't.
Listen, he's smart.
He's calculating.
All of these things are very true, but he's a beta, okay?
That's my take on it.
I would be remiss if I didn't flog my personal hobby horse, which is I think the best way for President Trump to indulge his desire to make America bigger and grander and to do really big projects no one else does without possibly alienating useful allies, he should annex Antarctica.
No one owns it.
What if we just took it over?
He just said it.
Unless you're attitude, okay, get this.
The average temperature in Antarctica is much colder.
It's 9,000 feet high.
It's on a 9,000-foot shelf.
It is what else in the North Arctic, the North Pole, if you will, it's underwater.
Under the ice is water.
So the land mass in Antarctica reflects heat.
The ocean underneath the north actually helps moderate the temperature.
In the summer, the average temperature in the north is actually 32 degrees Fahrenheit, which is the freezing point.
So which means it sometimes gets above freezing, then below freezing.
It's way warmer up there.
Okay, but Antarctica is a lot bigger.
And so if we annexed the whole thing, we would be bigger than Russia.
I would need to see if you could actually extract resources from almost certainly not in any sort of short time frame, but in a century timeframe.
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We have one more question we do want to get to.
Matthew.
Matthew, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Can you hear me?
Yes, sir.
Okay, great.
Yeah.
So by the way, Carney, yeah, I hate to say he probably is beta, but Tommies can definitely be alphas, like you said.
So yeah, my question kind of to preface it would be that, you know, for a long time, it's been frustrating to see all these people out there being portrayed as these really angry citizens standing for these things when a lot of times they're just being paid.
You know what?
Because I've, you know, I've seen the ads before myself, you know, looking for people out there in Phoenix, you know, to do stuff.
So the, so my question is, you know, what do you think about Congress passing a law that would require, just like we have in commercials, you know, paid protesters to wear something like an armband or something that shows that they're being paid a wage to be there and requiring that, but that they also can register, you know, the company has to register somewhere federally and there needs to be some sort of signpost and somebody feed of anything that states clearly who's paying them.
Because that would, you know, it wouldn't go against free speech laws because we already have laws requiring that for stuff on TV and radio, truth and advertising and so forth.
And it would also make it a more clear employee-employer relationship so that, you know, they can be sued.
I was going to say, this actually gives you a mechanism for enforcing like a crackdown if you know that they are paid protesters and they don't properly.
I don't know.
Like, what's the First Amendment implications here?
I do feel like it would be a can of worms.
How would you define a paid protester, for example?
Or like a door-to-door person.
If they're doing hotels, transpo, and food only, then that's not paid protester, but they're getting a wage to be there.
And I'm sure you've seen the ads before looking for people to do that.
I'll be frank.
I will be frank.
I have seen these go viral before.
I don't know that I've ever seen a paid protester ad that I, I'll be frank, that I think was real.
I think people post them and I think they're fake.
There was a, there was actually, back when I was on Tucker's show in 2017, there was a completely fake paid protester bit and we had the fake paid protester guy on the show.
It went quite viral at the time.
But I think people put these up.
I just, I don't know that I've ever seen evidence that an Antifa that like a person who is just a 100% disinterested mercenary figure showed up at something like an anti-ICE protest or an anti-administration protest because they were just being paid a wage to be there.
I think it's a confluence of like, you have true believers that, you know, will then kind of come up through the ranks, activist groups.
I mean, a lot of the groups are real.
Indivisible was one of them.
There are obviously people on payroll that help organize or help disseminate literature.
There is a paid element of this.
I tend to agree with you, actually, though, that more of it is organic than the left or than the right wants to admit.
A lot of this is just people that, you know, listen, people have a hole in their soul and they're looking for purpose.
They're looking for something to make themselves useful with.
And instead of raising their family, instead of teaching them how to obey police officers, they end up getting themselves, you know, enmeshed in these really radical ideologies that fill this gaping hole and gets them.
And like Renee Good puts, it ends up with her being cannon fodder in the streets confronting ICE where she should not have been.
I disagree with you guys.
I disagree with you guys.
I think there are more.
I mean, Nate Friedman exposes people all the time.
Literally, Laura Ingram was interviewing someone the other day.
So we have a lot of responsibility.
Do you guys ever see Nate Simmons videos?
Yeah, where he found out.
There was a woman that he spotted it over 100 different protests.
And they get paid to do this.
And you can see that he exposes the different groups that pay these people.
But also in terms of like a lot of it.
Yeah, I disagree with you.
I believe.
Okay.
I just think there's a higher process.
Let me finish my thought.
So in terms of like these natural groups coming out, it takes a few people to start something.
And if there are 10 people that are getting paid and 10 people that are organizing something, they could get 250, 300 people out there to protest something because those 10 people started it.
Yeah, that's exactly.
That's how I believe.
So I want us, since it's quick, let's play the Laura Ingram quick very quickly, 538.
Jeevichov!
Shame!
Shame!
I'm getting paid right now!
Shame!
Shame!
So the thing is, that's not proof that she's being paid to protest.
What it really gets at, I suspect, and I don't know this for sure, but I suspect there are a huge number of organizations that the left controls where you can get, where you have unlimited opportunity to go protest whenever you want.
So, for example, the St. Paul Teachers Union is calling for all their teachers to go on basically strike.
And then all the schools doing walkouts and they're at the capital causing chaos.
If you can walk out on your job as a teacher and no one will fire you, you can easily boast, I'm getting paid right now.
Ha ha.
Like, you can't do anything about it.
And they have infinity things like that.
Anyone who's working at these left-wing universities, anyone who works at left-wing NGOs, anyone who works at, you know, as a public school teacher where they indulge these things, the left has tons of institutions where they can park a full-time political activist with very little real work demanded of them, and their job is be a left-winger.
That's very different from I'm a mercenary who's paid to protest.
My take on that.
What they're paid to be is to be left-wing.
Well, and there's probably some of that.
I agree with you, but I think my take on that was way more simple.
I agree with Blake.
I didn't hear that and go instantly like paid protester.
I thought this was probably a work-from-home job.
And she was just mocking everybody going like I'm getting paid right now because my employer doesn't care that I'm here.