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We've been talking about what they did to Justice Kavanaugh and how the there is, you know, essentially the person that had tried to, the would-be assassin gets eight years, very minimal sentence.
Uh DOJ is going to be appealing that, by the way.
But we're we have another sort of PD rule of law issue that is emerging in Portland, or it's been emerged for some years now, but it's coming to a head again.
And we have independent journalist Nick Sorter, who's been on the ground making a lot of news.
Uh Nick, are you there?
Hey, there you are.
Yeah.
Yep, I'm here.
I am uh in the car, though, because if I'm not in the car, I will just be attacked for talking.
So uh that's why I'm doing this from the car this time.
You know, I'm trying to do it on the street like I did Lori Ingram's show from the street last week, uh, which uh resulted in people having to physically remove the Antifa terrorists that were uh trying to come at me.
So I gotta be careful about where I do uh interviews at this point.
Yeah, geez, you gotta take care of yourself.
I think we're all sitting here uh watching the clips and watching.
I mean, I saw the one from last night of them ripping the flag that you had you had you know basically stomped out the flames on and you've kept it, and then they ripped it out of your hands again, and we're all thinking, please, Nick, stay safe.
You know, um, yeah, and you can you can see this is actually the incident.
Uh this is this is uh it seems to be an is instance, Nick, where the PD is victim shaming uh Katie Davis court.
They're arresting you an independent journalist, meanwhile, actual rioters and Antifa thugs uh seem to have free reign over the streets in Portland.
Is and and are you hearing, I guess is the question here.
Are you hearing that the leadership of Portland is telling the PD to not defend law-abiding citizens and to allow Antifa to run roughshod?
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
They're getting orders from the top to uh basically just allow these Antifa things to do whatever they want to because the I I mean, just to be totally honest with you, the Portland police department has been, you know, uh tucked, I guess, by Antifa.
They are afraid of Antifa.
And you know, I had an officer that uh was actually uh you can't say too much about him, but he's a Portland cop uh that is very thankful for what I've been able to expose so far.
He's tired of the rot within the organization and uh and basically now you know they have to cede their power to these Antifa things every single day, right?
It's demoralizing for the police for the regular police officers that really want to fight crime and really do the right thing.
Uh and I also posted this video yesterday as or the day before.
All the days were running together.
I don't even remember at this point.
Um how Portland police are sitting on their bikes pretty far away, while uh they relegate uh traffic control duties to Antifa uh militants that you know they're the ones that decide who gets to drive down what street.
They'll block the road and not even let people like uh like the workers at the spaghetti factory aren't able to get to their jobs at this point because there's only one road To get to a lot of these restaurants and businesses, and it's the one that they shut down, except you know, they allow their own uh people to get through, of course.
I mean, it's like it's total mob rule out here in Portland, like no other city in the United States.
Uh it doesn't feel like an American city at this point, Andrew.
I'm I hate to say it that way, but that's uh there is no law and order out here uh at this point.
You have Antifa that's running the show.
Hey, Nick, this is Sean Davis from the Federalist here.
Thank you for your courage and your uh boldness uh and fearlessness in doing what you're doing.
Can you tell us a little bit about what you've seen uh with the federal response?
Um is it making a difference?
Are there enough people there?
Do they need more?
Or is is it Antifa just running riot still without any sort of um uh obstruction to what they're doing?
I would say the agent count here has just about doubled uh since my arrest.
Uh Christine Ohm promised uh personally that she was going to surge more resources into the city.
And uh yesterday, they actually took they were able to take back like two blocks in each direction, pushing everybody out.
They actually pushed everybody out of the Antifa camp that was there.
Uh and they're showing no mercy to these people.
However, this is where the issue comes in.
You're sending all of these uh federal agents to protect this facility.
So what does that mean?
That means they can't do their actual jobs, they can't go out and do Title VIII work, which is uh removing uh illegals from the interior.
They can't do as many immigration raids because they're busy protecting the federal building, right?
So that's why the National Guard is so important, because the National Guard can protect the facility uh probably even better than the federal agents can.
Uh, and then the agents can go out and continue doing their jobs.
ICE agents should not be used primarily to protect their own building.
I mean, that what what is the National Guard for if it's not to protect citizens as well as federal government property?
I don't understand why this is a controversial issue.
Two things stand out to me hearing you talk about this, Nick.
You're talking about, you know, they've they've taken back control of this city block and this city block.
I'm like, what is this like Fallujah or something?
Like what like what are we even talking about here?
And secondly, there's this story that you know, a U.S. district judge, Karen emerg emergit, emergent.
Uh by the way, it's and people are saying, oh, it's uh how do you say it?
Imagine.
Immigate.
So is saying that this is like a Trump judge.
Well, no, it was a blue slip judge, which means you know, chosen by the Democrat senators of Oregon, but basically, you know, has put a stay on the uh deployment of National Guard troops, and they're saying, and I think California, I saw again Gavin Newsom was celebrating uh this ruling.
This obviously will get appealed.
Trump has every right to deploy National Guard to troops to support and defend federal facilities.
But like this is like I wouldn't say we're at civil war territory.
I know a lot of people do think we're at.
I would definitely say we're at whiskey rebellion territory where we're like having to subdue these uprisings, and that's really what it seems like, uh Nick, is that you are you are surviving a an uprising, a domestic uprising.
Yeah, that's uh it's sort of what it what it feels like at this point.
Uh and but it doesn't need to be.
This could very easily be quelled.
Could very easily be quelled.
I I don't understand uh why we can't have i i i if if Oregon and California are pushing back so hard on on having their guard uh be used.
Why are we blocking or not?
We, but why is a judge blocking Governor Abbott who wants to send Texas National Guard to protect the federal facility?
Yeah, what why why is that not allowed?
Yeah, that's an answer that that we can't get here.
It seems like these activist judges, their entire goal is to stall and delay, because every day that passes by that ICE agents and border patrol agents are wrapped up in uh in protecting the facility, the less and less people that we can deport.
So that seems to be the play here.
Stall and delay, because we all know at the end of the day, we're gonna eventually have National Guard here on the ground.
The Optimist Judge knows that too.
But they're using every tactic in the book to you know make sure it's a long drawn-out process.
Molly, any questions?
We got one minute left with Nick here.
No, I'm just struck by this judge engaged in a pretty lawless decision here.
So she enjoins the the National Guard from Oregon being there, and so Trump calls them up from California and she says, Oh, uh, you can't do that either, even because I said you couldn't do it to Oregon.
Well, the letter of the law actually matters, and the letter of these decisions matters.
She specifically said Oregon.
And so, yeah, you can say that's you know, I mean, the she also, I should say the the issue was was immediately under appeal, so she no longer has jurisdiction.
And so she it's just a completely lawless situation to match the lawlessness of the Portland police department not enforcing things and the governor trying to keep anybody from being held to account.
Uh Nick, thank you for making time.
Stay safe, my friend.
Uh, we're all watching you from afar and rooting you on.
You're doing good work.
It's really important work what you're doing.
So God bless you, man.
Thank you guys for having me for sure.
Stay safe.
Um, and uh he was here in studio a couple weeks ago.
So we love Nick Sorter.
He's doing great work.
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Blake, you have an email that you want to read.
Yeah, so yeah, we're getting into we've been covering what's happening in Portland, and we'll also get into what's going on in Chicago.
This aggressive anti-ICE efforts that are happening in blue jurisdictions where they're declaring certain areas off limits to ice, they're ordering police not to assist ICE if they're attacked.
It's real, you know, nullification crisis resistance.
Neo-confederate nullificationists.
I want to flag this uh very interesting email we got uh from Stephen.
He just sent in, he said all Trump has to do for anti-I cities is remove the air traffic control or employees and shut down their airports.
Now I want to preface I have or post this, whatever.
I want to say I have no idea if that is actually legal or how that would work, but I would say that's an incredibly interesting idea.
It's very creative.
Your cities are basically in revolt against valid federal government.
Well, we're going to shut down your airport.
And we're in a government shutdown, and so it's come all power has been handed over to the executive by Democrats refusing to pass this budget, which means that Trump can decide who to furlough and who not.
You're getting spicy.
I like this.
I like this, Molly.
All right, we are exploring a very creative idea.
Here's why I like this idea.
It was an email that we got from a listener.
And it's it reminds me of Charlie.
This is why I like it, because Charlie always believed in playing offense, offense, offense.
Use legitimate power.
By the way, there was that Stephen Miller uh tweet that it was getting some pushback because he was he was talking about legitimate government power to quell the rebellions that are popping up right now.
And they were like, You're trying to stoke vi they keep trying to act like we're doing what they're doing and we're not.
I I don't know if you have a thought on this more.
Well, just I back to the Portland situation.
I was appalled by seeing what Portland was saying about how the journalists who are covering it who are not covering because Antifa likes to have only Antifa approved journalists, and there are some who are not, they're independent, and they were blaming them for any conflicts like what Nick Sorter went through.
Yeah.
Um, and it's just ridiculous how they blame.
No, because they're victim shaming.
So Katie Davis court gets uh punched either by like an umbrella or something, she gets hit in the eye, has this black eye.
And yeah, the chief of police, I believe in the write-up was like basically said you had it coming.
Which is I mean, this is what it's come to.
That's why I was, you know, Nick Nick gave me some hope though.
He was saying that there are good police officers, which of course I assumed, but like you wonder how rotten the PD has become.
The police have been at war with or that's not a bad way to put it right in a bad way.
But they've been in conflict with the Antifa led government in Portland.
Antifa keeps getting people elected to the city council.
The previous district attorney actually was Antifa adjacent.
The current one is bad, but not nearly as bad as the as the previous one.
Antifa took root in Oregon many decades ago in a way that I think the rest of the country is kind of seeing now.
Um and it has become completely lawless, lest we forget in 2020 during the BLM riots, and you know, we have we talked so much about that January 6th riot.
That federal courthouse, the Mark O. Hatfield federal courthouse in Oregon was under siege for months by Antifa.
A completely lawless situation.
Of course, the federal government has interest in its assets, its people, its buildings being protected.
Well, also it's a it's a perfect example of why county sheriffs are as important as they are.
So it if you've only spent time in big cities, your only experience with law enforcement is with big city police departments, almost all of whom have a chief that is a political appointee of the mayor.
And in these cities, the mayors are completely corrupt Democrats.
They they don't care about law and order.
It's all about following the party's dictates.
But um you also have county sheriffs.
County sheriffs are elected, they are accountable to the people.
They they are tend to be very different.
Now there are some some cities and counties where they've been allowed to merge, uh, which I think is a terrible idea because then you lose that independence, you lose the electoral accountability.
Um, but but this is it's why school board elections are important.
It's why county sheriff elections are important.
It's not just the president or Congress.
These very local people who most people on TV and radio have never heard of can be the difference between uh law and order and chaos in a lot of these cities.
Yeah, I mean, I I think you're right, and it's a really smart it's a really good call back to the fact that local matters, local matters, local matters, like school boards matter, you know, local elections matter.
Uh govern governor races, it's not just all about president.
I think we tend to make it about these national you know, races, whether it's Senate or Congress or President, but the local level actually just for quality of life, day in, day out matters so much.
And I just love so low, the leverage is so much higher if you vote and well Soros figured this out with local prosecutors that the ROI was like huge pound for you know, bang for buck, right?
It was a huge return on investment, and he found like an arbitrage in the system and basically found a way to hollow out the rule of law in America from the inside out.
It's how he's taken over red states too, because a lot of these uh red states, um, you you look at left wingers pouring in there.
Uh a media market in Idaho or South Dakota or Wyoming is shockingly less expensive than if you're trying to to get a race in New York City or Boston or whatever.
So um the the right needs to understand these dynamics.
It's not just about uh big elections with people that everyone's heard of.
You you gotta get involved in every state, every locality, and every race.
But this is why I love this email.
Because it's using legitimate government authority in a shutdown where, as you said, Molly, so much of the power then sort of returns to the executive branch while Congress is out and uh, you know, some of them, by the way, it's so funny.
Some of these Congress people are like, well, we're not taking a paycheck right now.
Well, it turns out the law is that they have to get the money eventually.
Like, so as soon as the lights go back on, like they'll get all that in back pay, but it's like a really cool virtue.
It's like, well, I mean, it's like I guess it's symbolic on some level, but it's like so much of DC is hollow.
I you know, I'm a big fan of states and localities being able to govern themselves.
I think that's an important part of our system.
It's also true that there are federal roles here and there are federal buildings, federal employees.
Uh, and so that's what we're talking about, really.
Antifa has targeted federal buildings, federal employees, and the federal work of enforcing our borders, which doesn't just happen at the actual borders, but also happens what, you know, because we've had so many people who have illegally entered the country.
It has to happen in every state.
Interfering with that federal role is a problem, and it is a violation of our system.
Well, this tension between federal and local has served us so well over the years because when you do get deranged local governments, the you know, sensible feds can come in and we get deranged feds, the local governments can sort of push back and create this push and pull.
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Charlie did speak a lot about basically the rise of left-wing violence, and sadly and tragically, I believe he was prophetic about this divergence of Magioniism versus MAGAism.
And one obviously is left-wing assassination culture, and one is robust national development and uh you say conservative nationalism, populism, whatever.
And so we are in a in a in a really big fight, right?
Okay, so you've got here's a a tweet on that um that Charlie put up.
And and it is one of those weird things, is just how prophetic Charlie truly was in so many different ways, and how accurate and his predictions came out uh to it ended up being.
And by the way, Charlie is a native of Chicago.
That's where he was born and raised, wheeling, he would always get people would be like, Well, you're not from Chicago, Chicago, you're from with suburbs of Chicago.
So we would always have to preface I'm from the sh the suburbs of Chicago.
And there is a big story going on now in Chicago.
It's similar to the Portland story, but this just blew my mind.
Bill Melugan, I believe, broke the story, so let's go ahead and put up two three seven.
Uh so basically, Bill Melujan uh of Fox uh broke this story that Chicago police officers were instructed by their chief of patrol to not respond to border patrol agents that were surrounded by a large crowd of protesters following a ramming incident that we then later find out was an ambush.
And one of the there was a woman involved in this that was essentially a far-left radical domestic extremist, domestic terrorist, who had a semi-automatic uh rifle with her, and actually she ended up getting getting shot in defensive measure measures by I believe uh either the police or because there was some police nearby uh or the border patrol agents.
I'll have to look that that detail up.
But this woman gets shot, drives herself to the hospital.
Then we find out that they the cops have been told to stand down.
So can you imagine being so vitriolic, being so antagonistic to federal law enforcement agents that are by the way are doing a job that the American people elected them to do?
I mean, it's number one job that they that President Trump has been elected to do is enforce our immigration laws.
But you to see another man or woman that happens to be wearing the uniform in trouble, getting ambushed, life on the line, and you refuse to help.
That's sick.
We're actually seeing this happen a lot, not just in relation to ice, but in all sorts of ways, where a left-wing mayor might have a stand down order for people at times of riots, and there's not much you can do about it right now, according to the laws that we have.
They're all they're all immune from any kind of prosecution.
But uneven application of uneven application of when the police defend something or not can be a form of tyranny.
And it is in this case.
I mean, these people it's uh what is it anarcho returning?
And these people have uh a vehicle is a deadly weapon, or can be a deadly weapon, I should say.
And to not take that seriously is a very serious problem.
And dangerous and deadly.
And the the the CBP and the uh well, the ICE agents, I guess, uh border patrol agents, and there was some police there.
So now Chicago's saying, Oh, well, we we we we're helping them.
We already had people nearby.
No, there is clear uh proof that they were given a stand down order to not help when they could have been killed.
We're lucky they weren't.
And I think this is such an interesting micro microcosm of where we are as a country right now, and it's the uneven um inequitable uh application of the rule of law.
It is one standard for my friends, one standard for my enemies.
When the left loses an election and they say Donald Trump was elected by Russia, that's fine.
When uh Joe Biden gets put in the white house, and people on the right say, hey, I think there was funny business in that election, that's insurrection.
When we go and protest peacefully, uh, that's civil war, when they go and violently siege uh and try to seize federal assets, uh, that's just speech.
And and so you see it now with cops, like cops not doing their job because they've been told no the people who are being victimized deserve it.
That it's a huge problem.
And I actually think this is probably the most foundational issue we face as a country right now is the unequal application of the rule of law.
And I don't know how you survive as a country or as a people when one party has just decided the we get rules and you get totally different rules.
Because at that point you don't have a country, you truly do just have a narco-tyranny.
Yeah, I mean, and now you've got Brandon Johnson, I believe we have these clips actually, Brandon Johnson basically saying, hold on, I've got it, Chicago here.
So we got JB Pritzker telling people to back off.
Uh, and then you got brand I uh mayor Brandon Johnson is now creating these ice-free zones.
Let's go, let's start here.
There's two Brandon Johnson clips worth playing, 32.
Today we are signing an executive order aimed at reigning in this out-of-control administration.
The order establishes ice-free zones.
That means that city property and unwilling private businesses will no longer serve as staging grounds for these raids.
That I mean, there's gotta be something challengeable in court there.
Something.
There's gotta be like some lawyer find me.
I think I mean it was already litigated throughout the civil rights era of resistance uh in the South.
I mean, the South was doing tons of this type of activity, and the federal government did come in and shut it down.
And they won, you know.
Yeah.
So so uh doesn't surprise me that this would be a half-cocked effort to sort of stand virtue signal against the tyrannical federal government when actually when in all of these instances, by the way, if local authorities would simply do their job and protect their their you know, federal ice facilities that are part of their community too.
If they would just protect the rule of law and the people inside of these buildings, there would be no need.
This is what enrages me.
I mean, Chicago has had a crime problem for so long.
Do you remember when during the Iraq war it was called Shirak?
Chirac, you know.
And you've had Democrat mayor after Democrat mayor, you know, city councils, and they have led they have created this situation where it's a great city that has become not great in many parts of it.
And it's by the way, there are still parts where you can be wealthy enough that you can avoid all the crime and all of the badness, but there are also areas where it's very bad for their people.
Why don't they care about their people more?
And it's just a horrible thing to watch.
They they get out here and do an executive order to prevent the rule of law from being enforced in their city, and it's like, yeah, we know that's like the whole problem that you're you've been doing this for decades.
Yeah, and but I mean to be fair, I mean, unless there was some funny business, which hey, Chicago, you book you wrote the book rigged, uh, and Chicago is not immune from uh funny business in their election.
But let's just say, okay, it was a straight up election.
They elected this guy.
And by the way, what's hilarious is that you know, you've got Chicago Tribune, the editorial uh staff there writing op-eds warning New York about mom Donnie.
They're like, We're the ghost of Christmas future.
Like, please, like be warned.
This is a terrible decision.
Look what we have to deal with.
So the people are miserable.
His uh approval ratings in the tank, and yet there was a reasonable guy on the ballot.
He's a dem, but he was like a moderate, and he probably would have supported the police.
And they went with this guy.
Because, you know, progressives.
I don't know.
I don't know like what's going on because Trump bad.
I think that's essentially the emotional exchange that's happening at the ballot box.
Or maybe also that democracy is not the solution to everything if you have a people that are not well educated and not thinking about how to run their elasticity.
Or well, but beyond their intelligence, you maybe just education.
They're socialized into this frankly suicidal worldview.
Well, I would I think what I think I what I'm hearing you say is that the institutions have been out infiltrated, the higher education, lower education, the accreditation of our teachers has all been infiltrated by these people.
The long march through the institutions, and we are dealing with the the rotten fruit of a rotten tree.
And you will know it by its fruit.
And this is the fruit of it, because everybody that's not been touched by this, we look at this and we're like, this is insane.
How are you not aware of how patently insane this is?
Case in point that Chicago Teachers Union recently praising the woman.
Oh my gosh.
Actual terrorist who fled to Cuba.
What did Brandon Johnson say?
He was an important black liberation figure.
Black liberation activist is an activist when she, you know, helped murder that he saw.
Somebody who that would praise an actual terrorist is talking about civil war.
Surprise, surprise.
Play cut 33.
More from uh this gem out of Chicago.
A couple of years ago, I I I said very candidly that the right wing in this country wants a rematch of the civil war.
I just I want that to sit in right now because the president of the United States of America has declared war on the people of Chicago and people across America.
It's enraging.
It's in so patently insane.
And I'm glad you brought up Mom Donnie because it's there are a lot of people on the right who it's easy to look at that be like, whatever, New York's kind of a crap hole anyway, and it's run by liberals, you know, let it go to pot.
But great nations have great cities, they're comprised of great cities.
And we cannot let our great cities, like what happened to Detroit and Chicago, in Philadelphia, in Baltimore, in New Orleans, allowing that to happen to your cities is saying to the people, we're we're willing to let your entire country to turn into this.
So uh I I wish more people on the right would take notice of this and actually fight for these cities rather than just saying, Oh, they're run by left wingers and they uh give it to him good and hard, they deserve it.
So I think that's wrong.
I there's a couple of things, and Blake maybe have my back on this.
There was a couple things that Charlie really seemed to focus on in the last days of his life.
It was Magioniism versus Mom uh versus MAGA.
Or yeah, man's Magioniism versus MAGA MAGA.
It was Islam, and it was taking back our cities.
There was probably some others, but like those to me, like he just kept hitting them every day, every day.
He it's like Charlie believed like we have to take our cities.
Every inch of America is America.
And it was it was a really pushing back because you'd see these takes on the right.
That's very common burn or whatever you're gonna do.
Or let the cities burn, or let the, you know, oh, we need to have uh, you know, a socialist or a Marxist run things for a while.
And it'll be so painful we'll get it.
And it'll be so painful.
It's always it's always this cope.
Like, actually, it's a good thing that we lost this city.
And he would always say, No, you should first of all, you should fight for every inch of America.
We should fight for our biggest cities, because those are tremendous monuments to American achievement.
Sorry, New York is a great American city.
It's a huge center of culture, it's a huge center of economic stuff.
It's a huge center of American history.
It is a part of America.
You don't just give it up to this lunatic from Uganda.
And people always say, like, okay, you know, in the communist countries, they eventually became more free.
Yeah, after like 70 years, and how many people died, and how much creativity was squashed.
Like, these are real losses that you have while these cities are being horribly managed.
Little girls and boys who can't go to school safely.
That's that's something every American should care about.
Yeah, and again, you know, to Nick's point, so these ICE facilities aren't able to actually do their job because they're fighting for their lives and defending like buildings like it's like it's a war zone.
And it, you know, so Illinois has now sued the Trump administration as well about deployment of National Guard troops.
So it's all it's all craziness, none of it makes any sense.
And uh, you know, the points are made up and the rules don't matter.
I guess that's where we're at.
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Phenomenal.
Because I think about Charlie's life and how much of the support he was of Angel.
It's hard not to feel so grateful for what he did.
He supported Us in our darkest days and in our brightest hours as a company.
Jeff and I and Charlie were doing lunch together.
We asked him, we said, Are you are you at all worried about one of these college campuses?
And he just said with so much peace in his eyes and so much peace in his heart.
If that's how God takes me, then that's how I'm supposed to go.
But I feel like that was a clear message that Charlie's life is a testimony to Jesus Christ, his Lord and Savior, and his relationship with him was the most important thing that he would want the world to remember about his legacy.
Man, are we grateful to have gotten to be a little connection in the multitude of connections that he made throughout his life because he was so impactful to us.
Thank you, Charlie.
Love you.
We miss you.
We're going to continue to drive forward the good news.
We're going to continue to drive forward the good news.
So I just I'm throwing it to you.
And I want you to tell people how to follow you where they can follow your work and uh follow your social, but also some sum up the day.
The floor is yours, Molly.
Well, just great to be here, and we're very honored to be able to be here.
At the Federalist, we tackle the news every day, pushing back against left-wing narratives, lies, propaganda, which still are happening even as people know not to trust the left-wing media, they still have a lot of control.
So if you want good journalism, definitely check us out at thefederalist.com.
You guys do great work.
And yeah, we've been known for debunking the Russia collusion hoax, pushing back against COVID hysteria.
Um you know what you're exceptional at?
You're very, very good at a lot of things.
But I if there's ever kind of like a weird hoax thing.
You know, where they're they're twisting some narrative and they're they've got some new you can feel it's like new hoax alert, right?
Just go to the Federalist.
Molly's probably got a piece out within about 24 hours where it's really thorough, or some one of your other journalists would.
It's really a great service that you do for the movement, I have to say.
Thanks.
Very happy to do it.
Yeah, it's it's amazing.
Yeah, I think we discovered accidentally something that y'all probably knew for a while that when you're not based in DC and when you don't have everyone who lives in DC, you get a different perspective.
You get exposed to normal people who have different views and opinions than the consensus in Washington, and it frees you up to just say what you think and what you believe.
And with us having most of our writers, nearly all of our freelancers out living normal lives out in real America, it really changes your perspective on politics, and it kind of gives you the courage and the freedom you need to just say what you believe.
Um, I love that.
And everybody should check out the Federalist.
Uh, truly one of the gems and most important uh publications that we have in the conservative movement because it's thoughtful, it's smart, um, but you guys are based, you know.
So that's there's there's like very it's a very hard dance to pull off, if as you've probably witnessed.
Blake, we have a clip that you wanted to play for us.
We have to get a charlie.
We have to get Charlie in every show.
He was always with us.
So he had some thoughts on MAGA versus Mangioniism this last year, and let's play clip 36.
Look, you have two options.
You can go MAGA or Magioniism.
You can go MAGA, or you can go Mamdaniism.
You can go MAGA, or you can go Muhammadism.
It's very funny.
How all the M's, MAGA is the only option on the right.
Neoconservatives are not coming back, the corporate oligarchs were not gonna let happen.
So MAGA has cemented the worldview of the American right.
But the left, we don't know.
It could go Magioni, which is the most extreme.
You could go Mamdani, which is very, very extreme, or you go Muhammad.
Uh Muhammadism, which is just m you know, Muslim Islamic takeover.
You get reform or you get revolution.
We at MAGA want to reform stuff.
Political undercurrent underneath Magioni that cannot be ignored.
That should not be dismissed.
And that political reality is that is on the American left.
It's chilling.
Reform or revolution.
That's it's a big theme.
America has a lot of problems.
You can't ignore them.
You can try to fix them, or you can blow everything up.
And there's a lot of people who want to blow everything up.
It's this sort of emotionally incontinent will towards just total revolution, total destruction.
I think this clip also shows something that has not been covered as much as it should be since the assassination.
People know about Charlie's campus activism.
They know about his love for Jesus and sharing the gospel.
He'd also become quite an important statesman who synthesized complex ideas and was providing a way forward to have a very healthy, large movement.
And so we can be heartened by how much wonderful response there has been from people wanting to get involved after his assassination.
But this was a huge, huge takedown of someone who is very important for a healthy movement going forward.
And so I hope we see people rising to support that as well.
You you also see the thing that he was so good at, and I don't think we fully appreciated it until recently, is that when we're in the space of ideas, we argue, we debate.
We generally come into a debate wanting to win the debate and win the argument.
And I think what everyone saw in Charlie and why he attracted so many people and why they loved him so much was that he didn't want to win the debate.
He wanted to change people's hearts.
He didn't want to win the argument, he wanted to change their minds.
And you see it in that clip.
He's so articulate, he's so respectful.
He was wanting to change hearts and minds because that's how you change countries.
A lot.
I don't know why, but it's just hard to it's even hard to watch that clip because I hate how right he ended up being.
And it's it's terrible.
And we love him and we miss him, and we soldier on because he would want us to, and I know that.
And it's one of the things that keeps me going every day is just knowing Charlie would be like, all right, don't waste this.
And um, so thank you for being a part of just coming and being with us and you give us a lot of strength and encouragement.
