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Sept. 18, 2025 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Glenn Beck Remembers Charlie Kirk

When Charlie was still in high school, he watched and listened to Glenn Beck. Now, Glenn takes up Charlie’s mantle and his microphone from Phoenix as the latest host to fill in for America’s fallen hero.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I remember driving around and as a sophomore and a junior in high school listening to your radio program in the morning.
I wasn't there when you gave the speech at the Lincoln Memorial, is that right?
But I saw it.
I remember being saw it being simulcasted.
And uh you you said some very, I think, prophetic things there.
I know it.
I have been looking for the next George Washington.
I can't find him.
He may be eight years old, but this is the moment.
And now eighteen-year-old Charlie Kirk is saying, enough is enough.
This is Charlie Kirk reporting from Marquette University.
I I like ideas.
I don't like politicians.
I don't like parties, I like principle.
Do not go quietly when truth is on the line.
I mean, democratic socialism, you know, the people's social, it's socialism, which inherently means the following.
It is immoral, it is evil, it is impractical and put in practice.
Do not surrender to the shadows.
But I'm here for the silent majority that is silent no longer, to give them the courage, confidence, and conviction to fight on campuses.
Even when, and especially if you think the battle can no longer be won.
We're not gonna allow the ruling class elites, the radical left to continue to destroy this country from within.
We are a movement here that is growing by leaps and bounds.
Charlie Kirk lived that mandate.
And I believe that marriage is a beautiful thing, and I believe that having children is a moral good for society.
Oh, without a doubt.
I don't think you know the impact.
You say, Oh, and you made an impact on my life.
Do you realize the impact you're having on the country?
Remember when I did the thing in Washington, DC in restoring honor?
I do.
And I said, somewhere in this crowd, maybe he's seven, maybe he's fifteen.
Somewhere in this crowd is the next George Washington.
And twenty-five years from now.
He will come not to this stair, but to those stairs.
we want to overemphasize grace when in reality christ loves us too much to have us continue to live in sin he wants us to try to elevate our actions to glorify god in all that we do and he can proclaim, "I have a new dream." I just went to church for the first time in several years.
Today we went to church for the first time in a really long time.
I've never ever opened a Bible before.
And something was calling me to my husband's Bible.
Here's the line for the second service.
and there's never a line.
Jesus of Nazareth and the resurrection is the pinpoint of my belief that Jesus did rise from the grave so that we may live.
The light is dimming.
Yes.
But it always does before the dawn.
Hello.
My name is Glenn Beck, and I am a friend of Charlie Kirk.
You may not know who I am, but uh one thing I am known uh for is uh my emotions.
And uh I think we're gonna need a tarp today.
Um this is I knew this was gonna be difficult.
But to sit in the studio right next to his chair is more difficult than I uh imagined.
I want to talk to you a little bit about the future, but I want to talk to you a little bit about my friend as well.
I knew Charlie when he was young.
I first met him, I think he was seventeen years old.
He was amazing.
He was so well read, so smart, so clear.
I thought this is an amazing man.
I remember the first time I met Ben Shapiro, I think he was thirteen years old.
I interviewed him the first time.
He was sitting on his family's washing machine doing an interview with me, and he said he was on a phone that used to have it was a hard line, so it had the phone wire that he had to pull it all the way around, and he couldn't keep his sister quiet, so he went in and closed it on the phone wire and sat on the washing machine.
Stop it!
I'm gonna be on the Glenn Beck Show, and he was impressive.
But there was something special about Charlie Kirk.
I want to share a story that I've never shared before, and I so regret that we ran out of time.
It's a story that I had hoped to tell Charlie myself in the next couple of months.
When I first met Charlie, and this is the kind of guy he was, he was so gracious.
I first met him, he was young, and I said, So what do you want to do?
What is it you want what what do you want to do?
So gracious, he said, I want to be you.
I want to do what you do.
Let me translate.
I want to be Rush Limbaugh.
He didn't want to be me.
He wanted to be Rush Limbaugh.
He wanted to be one of the, as Rush said, radio's greatest of all time.
And I remember thinking, well, kid, maybe someday, because I think you have it.
I brought something with me today that I thought was appropriate while I did the show that I would sit in front of Charlie's microphone.
It was given to me after the death of Rush Limbaugh by his wife.
It is Russia's golden microphone.
I think it's appropriate.
But it sits in front of Charlie's microphone.
What I would have said to Charlie was you were thinking too small.
I want to be Rush Limbaugh someday.
I'm a broadcaster.
Rush was a broadcaster.
But Charlie was a broadcaster and a narrow caster.
Charlie was a pastor and a priest.
And listening to the way he could argue and think differently, he was a rabbi as well.
And one of the best.
He was a political organizer.
He was a political think tank himself.
He was a compassionate friend.
He surpassed Rush Limbaugh.
By miles.
We must stop calling Charlie anything other than a civil rights leader.
We need to plant that stake deep.
It is time that we point out that what he was doing was not politics.
What he was doing was trying to stand up for people's civil rights to show people how a civilization is not a civilization unless you can have a dialogue with people who are diametrically opposed to you.
That don't believe anything that you believe in.
And yet you can have a civil dialogue and how important that is.
That's our civil right, our right to free speech.
And that gunman was trying to take that right away from him and from you and everyone else.
Shut up.
You will be silenced.
You will not say those things.
And there has been a force in this country to try to convince people that you don't have a right, that you have a responsibility to silence others.
You don't.
In this country, one of our main civil rights is we can express ourselves the way we feel we need to express ourselves.
And I'm sorry if you don't like it.
You have to just take it and then say, I'd like to have a discussion with you on that.
I'd like to know how you got there.
I'd like to have the opportunity to argue against that, and you have that right to argue against it.
And hopefully, if we are more like Charlie Kirk, we're having those dialogues with each other in a civilized fashion.
But make no mistake, Charlie Kirk was a civil rights leader as much as Martin Luther King.
Andrew Colvertis with us.
You were here a week ago.
We're a week away, and what?
Same time.
Yeah, we're probably about two hours or so out from the exact time of being a week.
How are you doing?
How's everybody at Turning Point doing?
Well, after you made everybody ball their eyes out in your first segment, you're open, Glenn.
And I I mean I just I have to say thank you for that.
I can't even believe I'm seated so close to Rush's golden EIB microphone.
That's crazy.
And Charlie and I, I can't say how many times we said the golden EIEB microphone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And uh it was beautiful.
We were all crying out in the control room, and so I am right now in this moment very emotional.
And I know that you watched his story grow and that tribute about the the next George Washington and how he was Charlie was so aware of that speech you gave.
And he wasn't there in person, but he watched he watched it uh somewhere else uh live.
And um I uh I I'm I right now I don't have many words because of how moving that was.
I uh you know.
I said the other day, and I don't mean this, I mean I'm not saying this to self-engranize um at all, but I looked at him almost like a professional son.
You know what I mean?
I looked at him and because I watched him from a distance, and I and I saw him young, and I saw his desires and how he built and everything that he did, and as I was thinking about that, as I packed that microphone up yesterday, I was thinking about Him and I thought Charlie would have been president.
Charlie would have been president.
Rush wasn't president.
Rush didn't have a desire to be president.
And I don't know if Rush would have made a good I'd make a horrible president.
I don't know.
Rush would have been a better president than me.
Charlie could have been a great president.
He surpassed all of us.
I don't know if there's another person in history on our side, at least in the last 150 years, that was like Charlie.
To replace Charlie, you know, You need maybe six people at the top of their craft to cover everything that he has done.
Yeah.
You know, i I can't tell you how many times I was with Charlie and people would beg him, you have to run for president, you have to run for president.
Charlie would always, you know, no, no, no.
I'm I'm happy doing what I'm doing.
And I will say Charlie was the existence of JD Vance gave Charlie a lot of emotional freedom to say that next man up is JD.
Our job is to support JD.
Yeah.
And I uh, you know, we wouldn't necessarily be loud and proud about that on this show because we understand there's dynamics, but you know, Charlie was in so many ways being honed and sharpened and he was for such a job.
And there was the difference in him in ten years.
Yeah.
Fiftees.
Look at the difference in him.
Can you imagine if he had 10 more years, 10 more years sharpening.
Oh my gosh.
I mean, and people need to understand that.
Yes, Charlie was a brilliant communicator.
Yes, he was an autodidact who kept studying the classics and political and philosophy and theology and all of these things, and he was deeply, deeply sincere in his faith.
But he was also so skilled at the quiet things, the behind the scenes things, and he would honor people.
He was trusted.
If if you got into a heated discussion in private with Charlie, nobody would ever hear about that.
If anything happened, he because his goal was to keep people together.
He understood that there are so many forces in our world and our politics that are ripping everybody apart.
And I said this I said this yesterday, but it bears repeating.
He just a few weeks before his death, he sent me this hierarchy of what the Greeks considered to be the highest virtues and the highest callings.
And he said to me, He said, Andrew, we are not the actors and the entertainers that are at the bottom.
That's how the Greeks put it.
He said, We we need to strive to be statesmen and philosophers up at the top and theologians.
And he said, This is what we're trying to be, not that.
Anybody could do that.
Not everybody can do that.
And God he he knew that God had put him a bit in a position that he could keep people together.
And so, you know, there would be times where everybody wanted us to go all in on this story or go all in on that, and Charlie saw three steps ahead all the time.
He was always thinking long-term, what will that do to the movement?
And so he would craft his messaging and his strategy and you know who we invited to what, you know, around how do you how do you manage this current moment so that everybody is still a part of this thing?
I can't thank you enough for inviting us to be here.
We are enough for coming.
No, I mean it is an honor.
I called Stu yesterday and I said, Stu, you should come with me.
And he said, This this is history of the making.
I mean, it's an honor to be here.
Yeah, well, you honor us and your beautiful tribute and open to him, and I know we're not done yet, but I I can't thank you enough.
Thank you.
God bless.
And God bless everybody at TPUSA.
Wanna get involved, go to TPUSA.com.
Hamilton and Madison and Jay, who were the obviously the designers of and explainers of the U.S. Constitution, they wanted spirited tension between the branches.
They wanted the branches to kind of not to be at war with each other, but to have different opinions on how governing should the this idea that the executive branch must bend a knee because Congress is appropriated the money.
And so, look, in addition to that, is if we can get this is where the other thing is that I was pushing for, and I don't think it's gonna happen, is if we can reauthorize the presidential reorganization act, which has been authorized in many times, which essentially says if an agency can do the work that is duplicative of another agency, it no longer needs to exist.
So let's just take the Department of Education, which needs to end.
The Department of Education needs to be shut down.
Do you guys agree?
And the Department of Education.
So do you believe do you le believe Litimate Man?
Because she's a great manager.
She's phenomenal.
Is she a manage to the close?
Sh share the president's stated plan to close the Department of Education.
But let's just take three examples of how that can happen before you close it.
Student loans.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Why do we have it?
No, I'm not sure.
That was the problem.
I agree.
That's going to require Congress.
Like that's what I'm getting at, though, is at least you can break apart.
We should get rid of any subsidized student loans.
Yes.
I'm just getting at this is the way that you can actually weaken an agency to no longer exist through duplicative type processes.
Right.
School assisted lunch.
You can make an argument for it or against it.
But school assistant lunch basically let the taxpayers need to, you know, pay for lunch.
That could be under Department of Agriculture.
They do food stamps.
Much better.
And then finally, they have this whole separate office of the Department of Education that is Senate confirmed tier two position that is the Office of Civil Rights.
Put that under the Department of Justice.
They don't need your own civil rights division in the Department of Education that goes and harasses our Christian schools and goes after conservative kids.
So you can completely close that.
That's three functions.
All of a sudden, the Department of Education inherently weakens.
And you know this, Glenn.
The Department of Education actually never existed.
It used to be called HEW.
Health, education, and welfare.
Yep.
And in fact, we could we could remerge these together and then we can find duplicative type processes and better sit better synergies.
That is even before we get more to the fundamental question of which I have and you have, I don't think the Department of Education is constitutional.
I I do not think that it's in the original intent as written that the federal government has any role in the education of our children, period.
What what progressives do understand, but the actual voter that votes usually with Democrats don't understand is uh I don't have a problem with the way you live in California.
You want you want to live in California and you want to, you know, be as insane as you are.
You can do that.
Your own community can vote for that, and that's that's fine.
I'm not gonna pay for it.
And don't force me to live that way.
You know?
Uh and that's unfortunately the problem.
We have San Francisco value.
That's right.
In small towns that do not agree with those values at all.
And it's forced upon them.
It's forced upon them.
It's federal.
The Office of Civil Rights Department of Education.
And even worse, I mean, you guys remember, and this was not a very covered um issue.
The Department of Education was using school-assisted lunch funding to force transgender bathrooms.
Do you remember that?
It was a lesson.
Like they said, we are not going to give money for kids that need assistance for lunch if you don't have radical transgender policies.
Yes.
So what we've done is we've created this insane leverage that the Department of Education should not have over local municipalities and school districts.
Let me describe the scene.
I got here this morning about 4 30 a.m.
I do a national radio program, starts at 9 a.m. uh Eastern time, so by six we were broadcasting.
And there wasn't anybody here.
Everybody is getting some well-deserved sleep.
It looks like I mean, nobody here has slept for a while.
Um and uh we got here and there's police that barricade the road right in front, and they're police all around.
Um it's a an enormous tribute that is on the road uh sitting in front of TPUSA.
Uh people have kind of it reminded me honestly of Princess Diana.
I hadn't seen the outpouring like this since Elvis died, and when uh Princess Diana died.
Um it's just this amazing uh outpouring of love.
During the show, during my national radio broadcast, um we uh my staff walked in and said, You have to move to another building.
There is a bomb threat.
And somebody that was here in front apparently put a package down and then gave a bomb threat.
Um turned out to be just some I don't know.
I don't know.
Um but um Satan thinks that he still can win, and the more he pushes the uh the brighter the light is going to get.
I want to go to Ryan Morrow.
Uh I talked to him earlier today because one of the things that we have to do is we have to stop the funding of all of these things that are on the left that we have honestly uh now started to find out.
I mean, I've been exposing this stuff on chalkboards for years and years, almost two decades now, and how the George Soros's, et cetera, of the world um are funding all of the worst of the worst.
And Ryan has done his work and has really uh come up with some smoking guns, especially on George Soros.
Donald Trump can use as Rico charges.
Um Ryan is here to lay this all out.
What did you find, Ryan?
Well, we had some amazing findings according to George Soros' own files from his open society foundations.
Uh so myself, my colleagues at Capital Research Center basically went through as many grants of his, as many funding streams as we can find.
And here's the smoking guns that we believe that President Trump, if he's informed of it, um, can use to go after Soros' uh network of hate in various ways.
Uh, we traced over 80 million dollars going from the open society foundations to at least 54 groups engaged in crime and domestic terrorism on U.S. soil, or that are pro-terrorism, endorsing things like the October 7th attacks, or are associated with foreign terrorist organizations or explicitly pro-terror groups.
Uh and this is according to his own files, so it's rock solid.
Uh, and over all of that amount, over 23 million went to at least seven groups that are doing things that meet the FBI's definition of domestic terrorism.
Can you including rioting and things like that?
Can you be specific, more specific than this?
Absolutely.
Uh, I'm happy to.
So the Center for Third World Organizing, for example, is an organization that has a hub that fused together several uh really extreme organizations.
Uh, we found 400,000 going to them, uh, and they openly boast of the fact that they threw down uh during the uprisings in Minnesota, obviously referring to the rioting and boasting of how many thousands of people they help train.
A lot of these groups have created what they'll call like a protest guide or an activism toolkit, and it sounds innocuous.
Then you open it up and you'll see support for Hamas in it, but then they'll sometimes slyly say, for more information, go to these hyperlinks.
And you go to the hyperlinks, and there'll be guides recommending things like property destruction, uh, violence, false IDs, how to obstruct justice, all of these things, and they know darn well what they're doing.
They don't put that there by accident.
Um, some of the more careful ones will just direct their readership to anarchist websites with all that material, knowing that they'll see it when it's there.
Um, and so yeah, the the I mean it's really stunning.
And some of these groups are coalitions.
So when I say 54 groups, just one of those might have 300 entities in that one.
So it it's actually the real number is actually much higher.
Let me play something from October 2010, um, where I was talking about the RICO Act and George Soros.
Listen to this.
But this is the ABCs of revolution.
This is only a copy of it.
I only have a copy of it.
I don't have the original yet.
They talk about urban guerrilla tactics.
The incident in any area is occupied by revolutionaries, it must be appropriated forthwith, according to two incontestable principles, self-defense and free distribution of the goods produced.
The best way to avoid isolation is to attack, thus, one must, with an eye to the internationalist direction.
Remember, workers of the world unite.
Create other nuclei for occupations and appropriations, strengthen and protect liaison between revolutionary zones, isolate the enemy and destroy communications, use commando tactics uh to harass and uh rear a guard and avoid encirclement by splitting up his forces.
Disorganize the counter-revolution by rendering its principal leaders and the best strategist harmless.
Do you have that one?
Disorganized the counter-revolution by rendering its principal leaders and the best strategists harmless.
How do they do that?
Is the left threatening?
Is that something that people who are in that position should worry about their lives?
Or is that just render them harmless by well?
Let's just live see if I can come up with a crazy example.
Here, some rich dude takes a million dollars and does everything they can to smear and discredit.
By the way, George, have you ever heard of the RICU RICO statute?
I just RICO.
This is 2010, 15 years ago.
I was saying George Soros should be grabbed by the RICO Act.
Uh Donald Trump looks like he is now willing to go there.
And again, we're talking to Ryan Morrow, who uh says he has the goods on this.
How long have you been working on this, Ryan?
Probably about a year.
And what got you started on this?
Well, I think it started when I released a report breaking down the anti-Israel protests that were going on.
I saw that that was like manufactured, it was like pushing a button.
And we identified over 150 pro-terrorism groups organizing those protests.
There weren't peaceful groups behind it.
Uh and so when that report came out, which is very similar to this one, this is almost almost somewhat of a sequel.
One of the radical entities that's Hamas friendly had this to say about the research that we released.
So the same would be true of the source report that we're about to release at one o'clock.
It said that these reports we're doing pose an existential threat that could easily mean a quick death for most of the groups by getting their tax exempt statuses ripped away from them.
And so those that survive would suffer mass chaos.
So they're saying that we have figured out how to beat them if we just get this into the right hands.
And so at one o'clock, this is what we're dropping about George Soros as part of our investigation.
Uh and that's why I said on your show earlier, the counter-offensive begins today.
It begins at one o'clock.
You know, um, it was probably 2010 that um George Soros' number two guy met with my number two guy.
Um and they had lunch in a public place because that's what we requested when they said we want to have lunch.
And uh I was not part of it, but it was just the second in command, if you will, meeting with each other and sending messages.
And and um it started, this lunch started with um you need to tell your boss, your boss, me, is hurting my boss, Soros, and it's going to stop.
And my guy said, No, I don't think it is.
Uh, I mean, if he's getting something wrong, he'd be more than happy to correct it.
And he said at the time, um, your boss needs to understand the ship is already sailed.
It's it's just pulling out of port right now, and you're either on that ship or you're not, and you want to be on that ship.
And he said, My boss is gonna say he doesn't want to be on that ship.
Um and at the very end of the conversation, he said, I want you to hear me clearly.
This is going to stop.
We took that as a very large threat, and that is one of the reasons why I did uh the Puppet Master show on Fox.
I did uh three-day special showing everything about uh George Soros that we could find at the time.
Uh you realize who you're getting into war with, don't you?
I do, and I don't care.
Uh I I know I'm supposed to do this.
Um, and so that ship that he was talking about, we're going to sink it.
And all the other big billionaire-funded organizations are out there that are funding this type of filth that are poisoning American civil society and spreading this type of hate that resulted in what we've what happened a week ago.
You're on notice.
If you're doing this by mistake, I will volunteer my time to help you vet the organizations that you finance so you don't fund terrorism and hate.
If you're genuine.
Well, there's not genuine and you continue doing it, you're next.
Looking at uh, you know, looking at your research, there's there's a handful of grants that are nuts uh for things like children that include uh ideas of hierarchy, supremacy, colonialism, and to the Alinsky Institute in France, which is honor in honor of Sololinsky, if I'm not mistaken, right?
That's exactly right.
Um, and when you go through the report, you'll see that the organizations that they're funding are so blatantly connected to foreign terrorist organizations, so blatantly extremists.
This goes on year after year.
So before, when there would be reports about this and drips and drabs, I could kind of understand some people saying, well, out thousands of grants, maybe some mistakes are made.
This this is no mistake.
We've we have disproven this.
And I keep thinking about how when the Iranian regime allows pro-terrorism entities to fundraise on Iranian soil, what do we call that?
We call that state sponsorship of terrorism.
In the United States, when American nonprofits in the nonprofit sector allow pro-terror entities to fundraise on American soil, what do we call it?
We call it charity.
And so that has to come to an end.
The IRS code, as we talk about in the report, is being violated.
You're not allowed to engage in crime.
You're not even allowed to encourage crime.
That can't be part of your nonprofit mission.
Uh and so these tasks is need to be revoked.
And just like that one extremist group said, if we go down that path, we don't even have to get into the hate speech argument.
Yeah.
We can beat them.
We can beat them rapidly.
Ryan, thank you so much.
I really appreciate your uh conversation with us.
Thank you.
How many people on Earth this last week became a Christian on the killing field?
They saw Charlie Kirk and they thought, you know, I wasn't a Christian before, but I think I understand what it means to be a Christian today.
Abraham Lincoln said, I'm not a Christian.
Little Abraham Lincoln, six, seven, eight years old.
He would get in trouble, and his dad would get drunk, and he would take his belt and he would whip him while quoting the scriptures.
Well, there's nothing that makes somebody want to be a Christian more than that.
And so Abraham Lincoln rejected Christianity.
And he said later in life, he said, When I became president, I wasn't really a Christian.
When my son died, I wasn't a Christian.
I didn't become a Christian until Gettysburg.
Gettysburg happened in the summer.
And we think, oh, then Abraham Lincoln went up there right after, or he went up a couple of months later after they cleared out all the fields and buried all the dead.
He comes in November, and they were still stacking bodies up like cordwood.
Imagine the scene.
Imagine the smell of Gettysburg.
He says, that's when I became a Christian.
That event brought him to his knees where he begged the Lord and said, What is it you want?
I'll do it.
Just tell me.
We were losing the war like crazy.
He issues a proclamation and a request for the nation to go into prayer, fasting, and humiliation, meaning asking God for forgiveness for all of our sins.
And he basically said, whatever God wants, he's just.
This was wrong.
We did it.
Let's pray fast and beg for forgiveness.
That's how we won.
It was the moment of Gettysburg.
This may be the moment of Gettysburg in our generation.
The number of people who are saying, I'm committing to Christ.
I'm going to church.
I'm going to change.
It's sweeping the nation.
It is sweeping the world.
This indeed was a turning point.
We have something special that we made for Charlie and the staff here at TPUSA coming up in just a minute.
I haven't even heard it.
My daughter, who is 19 years old, uh made it with David Osmond last night.
And she was there about 10 feet away from the tent when Charlie was shot.
And we'll tell you a little bit about this next hour.
Glenn, talk to me about the path forward from here.
Because I think a lot of people right now have that moment where they're so thankful for everything that Charlie had done and appreciated his approach to everything, this open approach, open debate.
And they want to continue that approach.
I do think there's also a lot of people who look at it and say, for everything that Charlie tried to do, look at what the price he paid.
And we can't just do that anymore.
We have to go farther.
We have to change this.
We have to, there's a righteous anger that people want to move upon.
How do you balance the righteous anger that is righteous and right and natural?
I mean, it is one of the phases of grief.
And we went through the face the first phase, you know, day one, denial.
I mean, we saw the video.
I did, unfortunately.
I saw the video, and I called a surgeon friend of mine right away and I sent him the video and I said, Is there any way?
And he's like, No, then no way.
No way.
Um, and yet for two hours, I was on the air with Megan Kelly, and I was saying, Well, no, there there's there's there's a chance, there's a chance.
Because I wanted to believe that.
Anger is part of that.
Um, and we're gonna go through it.
But I have been so amazed and so proud of our side.
I I'm gonna tell you next hour of a private conversation that I had with Charlie about assassinations.
Um and uh and and so far everybody is handling it exactly the way he would have hoped.
And I know it to be true because I talked to him about it.
Well, certainly not everybody is handling it the right way.
Yeah, I I it's funny because I was I had a conversation with a friend of mine yesterday, and we were talking about the reaction to all of this, and uh the we kind of said, are you encouraged by what you're seeing or are are you despondent?
I'm very encouraged.
That's it's fascinating.
My my instant reaction was despondent.
Because I I I don't know, maybe I've tortured myself with too much of the negative reaction.
Maybe however, talking it out, I think I've I've changed my mind on it.
Look how many people have gone to church for the first time.
See, this is the difference.
Charlie wasn't just a political guy.
Charlie was an evangelical preacher in the end.
Um and he was talking about universal things and things that people are starving for.
And look at the real look at the God movement that is happening.
He short circuited a lot of stuff, and now God is moving with his people.
And I find that extraordinarily optimistic.
I I think what we have to be careful of is you know, I worry I'll start to worry about the people of TP USA.
I mean, we've already been praying for you, but I'm gonna start worrying about you next week and the week after.
Because I've had enough people in my life die.
Once company goes home, then you're left alone with the reality.
And that's when uh that that despair or hopelessness can start to play games with you.
Don't let it.
I mean, there is I know what Charlie I'll tell you in a minute.
I know what Charlie would have wanted, and what he would have wanted was move forward, keep moving, keep pressing forward, keep staying true to the principles that we have laid out.
Um and that's the only thing I worry about on our side is if anybody gets angry, um, and somebody's gonna do something stupid, and I hope that doesn't happen.
I pray that doesn't happen.
I don't think it will, quite honestly, but I could be wrong.
Um but if we have real discipline, and then constitutional discipline.
You know, this hate speech debate.
Charlie wouldn't have been for that ever.
Ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.
No, that he tweeted explicitly about it.
There is hate speech.
There is no such thing as hate speech.
There is speech, there's uncomfortable speech, there's evil speech, there's bad speech, there's speech you don't like at all.
There's speech you would just want to say to somebody, shut up.
But there's no such thing as hate speech.
There is no legal position for in this country.
The only kind of speech that requires protection is the kind of speech that everybody hates.
So there is no place for hate speech.
And it bothers me this Pam Bandi movement uh of going after people with hate speech.
No, we don't do that.
You have a right to speak, and I will fight to my dying breath for your right to say what you believe.
I don't I don't necessarily agree with you, but it's more important for me to fight for your right of freedom of speech if I don't agree with you.
I don't need to fight for freedom of speech that agrees with me.
You led the Tea Party movement in 2011.
Those are my words, not yours.
Okay.
So 2010, 2011, you were a big part of it, and you were with a heartbreak of you were a vocal very vocal piece of it.
And President Trump in a lot of different ways has led the revitalization and had given a lot of Americans hope that they thought that this this country could not be turned around.
You know what's really strange?
He has the same thing that Tulsi Gabbard has, and They don't agree on anything.
Basically anything.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
But Tulsi is a she's so far out of the mainstream, and she is so far left.
But at no time do I believe she hates America.
I believe she loves America.
We just disagree.
Yes.
And what used to bring us together is that we can disagree, but we have a fundamental understanding that this country is a positive force and you can make it.
Well, I have a I have a working theory about this.
This is why Bernie Sanders has a re has a group that really appreciates him and follows him, and why even some people on the right will say, Oh, I I like I I don't like Bernie Sanders, but I think he really believes what he believes.
I think the new era of politics and the bipartisan cartel that has ruined this, you know, ruling class essentially series of destructive policies that have borrowed too much money and eroded our freedoms and liberties and grew the fourth branch of government.
I think the American people would much prefer someone who's authentic, who says why they believe what they believe, like that conversation you have with the president on trade, even if you might fundamentally disagree with terrorists.
I respect it.
You say I'll deal with that way more than an establishment Republican in a heartbeat.
I made argument after argument and he tried to dismantle and I go, but wait a minute, Mr. President, this blah blah blah.
And in the end, he said, I'm just gonna shoot straight with you.
I love them.
I love trade barriers.
I love the fact that we can get things from people if we just use our muscle a little bit.
I fundamentally disagree, but I hung up the phone going, at least he told me the truth.
Yes, he was not pandering to me.
Well, and that's clarity over agreement.
Yes.
Which and or the false agreement that the the bipartisan coalition that has really, like I said, ruined our country in so many ways, not completely, but I find the American people have this this yearning and this interest, especially young people for authenticity in our candidates, and that's been deteriorating.
So I have a question for you.
Okay.
In the in ten years, do you think America will be more or less socialist?
I asked this question of everybody, by the way.
Here we go.
Okay.
So with a caveat.
Of course.
So if we're gonna be on at the top of the uh we continue the spending on the thing.
And if we continue the erosion of that until who we are and the truth, we will be much more socialist.
If we if we have this um real collapse, an actual depression.
People who right now say, I am absolutely against socialism.
They will want it to be able to weather that storm.
That's great.
And I'm afraid that we're on that track.
However, I've been really heartened.
I mean, Charlie, I don't think you know the impact.
You say, oh, Glenn, you made an impact to my life.
Do you realize the impact you're having on the country?
I don't know.
I mean, the your organization didn't exist five years ago.
It didn't exist.
Tonight I'm talking to 5,000 people, and I in this place that paid to come across the country.
I was on a plane with all kinds of 18 to 24-year-olds yesterday, and I realized the people you have.
You remember when I did the thing in Washington, D.C. in Restoring Honor.
I do.
Right on the uh Washington Monument.
Right.
And I said that n that day, yeah.
Somewhere in this crowd, there is maybe he's seven, maybe he's fifteen.
I saw that speech.
Yeah.
Somewhere in this crowd is the next George Washington that will feel it right now.
And I am so overwhelmed with the people that I have met from your organization and the people who are coming.
You're raising the next generation.
You are you and your organization really responsible for what I think will be the next great generation, but also some real sucky ones are gonna come out of this group too, you know.
I want to tell you something that Charlie and I spoke about.
Um I have been saying for a while now because I've been tracking this since really 2004, 2005.
I've been tracking this slide into Marxism and communism, socialism, radicalism.
Um, and um and I studied revolution all over the world uh to see how does it happen.
And play uh cut 353.
This is May of 2024.
Listen to this.
You and I both know, and I I hate to even uh address stuff like this, but you and I both know there are those people, and I don't know who they are, and I don't know how many there are, but there are those people that hate Donald Trump so much because they will destroy, because he will destroy their plans for a new world order.
They will they would at least consider an actual assassination if this doesn't work.
Uh and that's terrifying.
This is something that I had been saying for a while, um, that we were gonna go into a period of assassination.
When I talked about assassinating the president or attempted assassination of the president, I was always very hesitant, um, because I just always want to be very, very careful on what you say about a president or a candidate.
Um, but I knew they were coming because that's what happened in the 1960s, and everything had been repeated.
And and Charlie and I, on one one day, maybe 2018 or 2019, I can't remember, um, he said, What's coming next?
And we were on this balcony in Miami, and it was just the two of us, and we had a really amazing conversation about what was what what our responsibilities were and what we had to look out for.
And he said, What is coming next?
And I said, Charlie assassinations, and I he said, uh, how do you see that?
And I said, Well, Donald Trump is probably the biggest target, but I don't know.
I don't know.
I mean, you know, last time in the 60s, it was Malcolm X, it was RFK, and it was MLK, and there were three of them, and um with an exception of RFK, they were just they were people that were, you know, in the arena, if you will.
And so Charlie and I talked about, you know, what do we do if that starts happening?
And that's why I am so happy to see the way people that knew Charlie, loved Charlie, worked with Charlie, uh, were part of TP USA, were just fans of Charlie.
I think everybody felt like they knew him because he was so personal, but um the way everybody is reacting.
I wanted to uh play something um that I have not even heard yet myself.
This is something that um was written by David Osmond because I knew these times were coming, and probably 2018 is when um this song was first written for these days, um, and here we are.
And uh last night, my my daughter, uh Cheyenne, who was about 10 feet away from the tent in Utah uh last week.
Thank God she turned her head and turned around because she was hearing people screaming at Charlie, and she thought, what are these idiots saying?
And she turned around, and that's when she said she heard what she thought was a firecracker.
And by the time she turned back to look at Charlie, she was pushed to the ground, so she didn't thank God see it firsthand.
Last night, she and David Osmond went into the studio to record this in honor of Charlie Kirk.
I know we...
Don't see everything in the same way.
But a nine won't be really f if we don't stay.
United.
We will fall for anything.
It's true.
So I have decided.
and I will.
I will make you stand.
I will raise my voice.
I will hold your hand.
Come Cause we are one.
I will beat my drum.
I have made my choice.
We will overcome.
cause we are one So there's no way.
Okay.
They say the best days are we high so wide and you will find the times where the best man defend every friend, neighbor, countrymen.
But now there's nowhere where you can speak your mind.
But I will I'll make a step.
i will raise my voice i will hold your hand cause we are one i will beat my drum I have made my choice.
We will overcome.
Cause we are one.
But truth we mate.
We won't be silent, won't be changed.
There's injustice anywhere, threatens justice everywhere.
I will make a stand.
I will raise my voice.
I will hold your hand.
Cause we are one.
I will beat my drunk.
I have made my choice.
We will overcome.
Cause we are well.
I will make a stay.
I will raise my voice.
I will hold your hand.
Cause we are one.
I will be my drum.
I have made my choice.
We will overcome,'cause we are one.
We are mine.
you When uh that song, I asked David to write that song.
Um I never thought it would be sung.
By my daughter.
For Charlie Kirk.
It's amazing how the Lord works.
It's amazing how the Lord works.
That song is so appropriate for Charlie because that's what he was doing.
Standing up for your right to speak.
Standing up for your right to be you, standing shoulder to shoulder and being united.
And I think that's why this is taking America and the world by storm.
I think it's why we are uniting with people in South Korea and England and Kentucky and Tennessee and even California and New York.
Because there's some basic principles and some basic truths that Charlie stood for.
Today I'm gonna try to say this without tearing up.
I spent my first day in church in many years.
So tomorrow morning is my first time to go to church in many years.
We went to church today.
It was the first time in 20 years.
The first time for our children.
I don't come from any kind of money.
And I've never owned a suit before.
Davy went to church for their first time in a really long time.
And it was so powerful.
So many people.
It was beautiful.
Beautiful service.
And I think we're gonna keep going.
I didn't know Charlie Kirk, never met that guy before in my life.
And something else that I've never done before in my life is believing God.
I'm gonna wear this suit to church.
I'm gonna go to church.
I'm going to try to be a better father, husband, and leader for my family.
But what happened to Charlie Kirk made me angry and sad all at the same time.
But at that time, it made me feel like I was missing something that I never realized I was missing.
We are raising three boys that will one day be men.
And we want those boys to be as strong in their convictions as Charlie Kirk was.
You don't think it's crazy to get in church?
Here's the line for the second service.
And there's never a line.
By the way, there's never a line.
Okay, I thank you.
So if you are someone also that went to church for the first time ever, or for the first time in a very long time today, I am with you.
And I'm so proud of you for being bold enough to go do that.
or to just take a stance and say, this is wrong.
It has been an exhausting day.
We got here about 4.30 in the morning to do my national radio program.
I have had bond threats before.
We've had death threats before.
But I've never actually had to shut down my national radio show and evacuate the studio during a bomb threat.
That was that happened, well, I don't even know, two hours ago.
Um we're now filling in for Charlie Kirk.
Uh and uh I'm gonna see Erica here for the first time.
And uh I don't know.
I mean, that might not be good for her to see me because I'm going to be a soppy mess.
I've had You're surely going to embarrass yourself.
I am.
Uh but my wife and I my wife is just obsessed.
She can't stop watching the kids and everything, and just she I can't watch it.
I can't watch it.
I I'm having a hard time looking over in this corner because Erica did her speech right there last week.
Anyway, Anna Paulina Luna is uh here.
Uh hello, Anna, how are you?
Hi, Glenn.
You were a dear, dear friend of Charlie Kirk's.
How are you holding up?
Uh, I don't think anyone can ever anticipate something like this happening, but what I can tell you is Charlie would not want us to throw in the towel, and so I know that right now everyone in the country for good reason is still kind of grappling at what happened, but what I am happy to see is the overwhelming support, not just in voter registration, but the amount of young people, especially over 30,000 requests for college campuses.
No, no, and I'm not sure.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Don't don't diminish that.
It's now 56,000 chapters that have been requested to be open.
Not new members, 56,000 chapters.
That's a good thing.
That's remarkable.
It is, and I know that in the end, no matter what, Charlie really did win because even half of that number would make an incredible difference on these college campuses.
And just a little bit, I guess, Glenn, of how I initially found Turning Point.
This was a little quantum breadcrumb, right?
Like everyone, at some point in your life, you're gonna see these little kind of God winks that will pop up and let you know that you're on your right path.
But I remember being in my finals week when I um was getting ready to graduate from college at University of West Florida, and I saw these two girls and they were tabling and they had these pins that said big government sucks.
And I remember going into the library and grabbing this pin.
I was like, you know, that's pretty cool.
I I'd even think, you know, that later on, fast forward, you know, a year later that I'd be working with Charlie in that turning point.
But um, what I will tell you is that, you know, a lot of people, there needs to be action outside of the legislative and the federal branch.
And, you know, what we're finding is that what Charlie was fighting, this indoctrination that was taking place on college campuses, these weren't just, you know, liberal professors from the 60s that had been radicalized, right?
Like this is actually a foreign government funded operation.
And a lot of these left-wing organizations that have been pushing these violent riots, the targeted campaigns, a lot of the people that have associations with these groups that are calling for assassinations of the president of conservative commentators, um, and even of you know Charlie's family are tied to these organizations.
And I guess what I'd like to share today is so you know, Glenn, that we were on the show talking about Neville Singham, how he was funding the party of socialism and liberation, code-paying a lot of the stuff.
Um, comer signed on a on a letter to the US Treasury to freeze all of his assets.
And I just met with Judge Janine, and he's guilty of a FARA violation.
I think the Department of Justice is gonna be charging him with that.
So um, you know, miracle of Charlie.
Miracle of miracles.
Yeah, I you know, we were just talking about this new George Soros information that Ryan Morrow has just released, or is it one o'clock Eastern yet?
Um and um, and it I mean, you're gonna be able to get George Soros on Rico charges, something that I've been asking for for 15 years, and it's it's happening.
I I think, you know, there's just no better name uh to name Charlie's movie than turning point.
I mean, we are truly at a turning point, and uh I couldn't be happier.
I'm glad that everyone is doing what needs to be done because Charlie ultimately was a freedom fighter, and everything that he was doing, you know, the GOP failed to recognize and he was able to transcend politics, but then also too able to share his message.
And so, yes, it's been extremely hard.
It's been even harder to see some of the commentary coming out of people that I have to walk by every single day up here on the hill and not knowing him and then continuing this rhetoric.
But what I will tell you is a lot of them know the truth and that he was not what they painted him out to be.
And I am happy that he has the team in place that's standing with Turning Point because I know that this organization is gonna continue, not just for voter engagement and for youth engagement, but to really help fight back.
And I think that there are a lot of very powerful people now that are listening to what needs to be done.
And this is the change that we needed.
Anna Paulina Luna, thank you so much.
You know, the one thing if it's come to me in prayer uh several times is these are not enemies of yours, Glenn.
These are not enemies of yours.
These are enemies of mine.
Um, and he will deal with them.
We just have to do the next right thing and stand exactly where he asks us to stand.
Anna Paulina Luna, thank you so much.
Thanks, Glenn.
What I think is really promising about the kind of conservative movement is we don't all have to agree.
We don't even all have to agree on tactics at times at times.
It's almost as if the leftist media is attacking Donald Trump for not having everyone be exactly the same in the room, almost as if that's what they're used to.
They're used to looking at a press school where there's no disagreement whatsoever, which is completely antithetical to what journalism and expression should be.
And so I actually applaud the fact that not everyone in the room agrees on every issue or she's eye to eye on even the way to go about advancing those issues.
Um that's something that should be celebrated.
We have uh Mike Lee, the senator from Utah on um Mike is a dear dear friend and I know is a dear friend of Charlie's.
Um, and uh is one of the strongest constitutionalists uh in the our uh our Senate and the man that I hope someday will be appointed as Supreme Court Justice.
Uh welcome, Mike.
How are you?
Thank you, Glenn.
It's good to be with you as always.
Um can I talk to you just about Utah here for a second?
I mean, if this is happening in Utah, this is everywhere.
Um It is it's shocking to me that it came from Utah, although maybe not so much, seeing the response of UVU and the president of UVU.
Do you have any comments on that?
All of this is shocking.
The events of last week are still echoing through our minds.
many of us, telling that it happened, telling that the killer was from Utah.
There are things within Utah that don't make sense right now.
There are I think one could say that Utah is fairly mismatched in several respects.
It's mismatch mismatched with its own media institutions, which lean overwhelmingly radically left.
It's mismatched with a lot of elements within its educational system.
Primary and secondary and higher education.
Where you've got a very conservative populace on the whole, of course, there are exceptions everywhere.
But these institutions in education and in the media stand in stark contrast.
It's almost like we've got the media of Mother Jones in a state that's uh much more in line with National Review or Fox News or something else like that.
And so that that really is creating some turmoil within the state and some disagreements, some cognitive dissonance at times on the part of the left, which still refuses uh to acknowledge some of the problems that we're facing.
And uh it's deeply concerning.
Mike, um let me switch, and uh one of the reasons why I'm so glad that you are in the Senate um and beg you to stay every time election comes up.
Please, Mike, please run again.
Um, is I am afraid that, and I'm already seeing signs of it, that there are those that like big government who are also conservative or say they are conservative, but they're big government.
Um I'm so afraid of a patriot act coming out of this.
And there was something put up on Change, what is it, Change.org.
And I read through it.
It was uh about a new Smith Munt Act.
Um, and it it was honestly it was terrifying the way it was written.
Um, and got a lot of likes.
A lot of people are saying, yeah, that's what we got to do.
And the Smith can you explain the Smith Munt Act on what it what it did.
It actually stems back from World War One and World War II, but what it was keeping at bay, and then why it was repealed in 2011.
Yeah, so it's interesting how this is unfolded.
Um during the Cold War era in particular, as you point out, this all started in World War I. I think it grew to uh uh much bigger size during World War II and in the aftermath and the Cold War.
But the U.S. established a fairly sophisticated propaganda system for use overseas or use in other countries to deliver the messages we wanted consistent with uh America's interests abroad.
The Smith Month Act, among other things, prohibited the U.S. government from using that same propaganda machine for domestic political pro propaganda.
In other words, fine for us to use this in our foreign adversary nations or direct it to them.
Don't use it on our own citizens, because it it big government already does enough to influence what we do.
It tells us what we do, uh, are supposed to do it every turn.
We don't also need our government telling us what to think.
So that's why Smith Month was adopted.
Um I think it's a hang on, I think it reveals I think it's really important before you move on to the repeal.
I think it's really important.
That happened in 1946, but it really stems from World War I. The I want you poster was not a uh Smith, I mean, uh not a Creel um creation.
Um however, the the Creel operatives, they were the ones in the government that put that in every post office and every, you know, every theater everywhere.
They did all these kinds of things to get Americans hyped into World War One.
When World War One ended, they felt betrayed by their own government.
They were like, What uh you lied to us about all of this stuff.
And they realized propaganda was being used.
That's why we were so um isolationists um up until you know 1941 when they brought it home to us.
Um And we were very isolationist because we felt our government lied to us because of this propaganda.
So as we're turning on propaganda overseas for the Russians and uh, you know, the voice of America, the the Democrats were the ones who led this, said you cannot use any of this propaganda on the American people.
We signed it in, and then 2011, what happened?
Well, as part of the Defense Authorization Act during the Obama administration, uh the Senate this piece in there didn't get much attention at the time.
Uh I voted against it, of course, but uh that undid it.
Nobody really um offered much of a defense as to why it needed to happen, and they hoped that it would go through largely unseen, largely undiscussed, and it did.
And uh it's time to bring it back.
It's time to bring back the prohibition.
Look, there's there's no good reason in a free society like ours for our government to be manipulating its own people.
And that's why I've introduced a bill to bring back this prohibition in Smith Monk, and in honor of our our friend who lost his life a week ago, um, I'm naming it the Charlie Kirk Act.
Uh Charlie uh was a big fan of limited government, was a deep skeptic of the brooding omnipresent government that we often face today, and would have been thrilled uh to be honored by uh uh a measure to bring back Smith Monk bearing his name, and we've got to get this passed.
Yeah, this is so important.
I mean, you saw it firsthand.
If you were uh, you know, if you were alive during COVID, you know the propaganda that was was done by our government in league with big pharmaceuticals um and the media.
That was all propaganda, and they could get away with it because the Smith Un uh Munt Monk Act was um had been repealed.
All of the stuff that you have gone through with propaganda where they are setting up uh, you know, truth squads where the government will say what's true and what's not.
All of that happened because of the repeal of this act in 2011.
You want to stop it, you have to put that back in, and and he is calling it the Charlie Kirk Act.
Oh, and when did you introduce or when will you introduce this?
Uh we introduced it this week, I believe it was yesterday, uh, that it was formally introduced, may have been the day before.
But uh it's time for it to happen.
Look, uh, I have yet to hear really good, effective uh defense of the repeal of Smith Month.
Uh not in 2012 when it was passed as part of the of the uh uh National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal year 2013, and not since then.
Uh people are actually afraid to defend it, and they're afraid with good reason.
Because they don't the American people don't take kindly to that.
The American people don't take kindly to their uh overly paternalistic um sort of uh uh a dark overlord uh government trying to tell them what to think, trying to tell them here's the official position of the United States government.
We're not actually gonna tell you that that's what's doing it.
We're just gonna use the same techniques that we use overseas to try to get with what we want in other countries on American voters.
That's wrong.
Because you're taking money from the American people, you're spending it to tell them what to think and therefore how to vote, and that's wrong.
And I I I really don't think there are very many Americans.
I suspect uh this one would pull overwhelmingly in favor of restoring the prohibitions of Smith Month, and that's what we've got to do.
Uh it's amazing because I've been so concerned that we'll go the wrong direction, we'll do another Patriot Act.
And this one is in the right direction, and it actually handcuffs our government um puts it puts the chains back on the government, uh, which is exactly the opposite of what happened last time, you know, with the Patriot Act.
Um, we unleash the government, and this is such a good sign that this is coming.
How how many sponsors do you have for it, Mike?
You know, I am not sure on that.
I should know that, and I don't, but we're gathering sponsors still.
We can use all the sponsors we can get.
And so if you're listening today, and you're not sure whether your senator supports it, ask him or her uh to get behind it and to co-sponsor the Charlie Kirk Act.
Heaven knows we need it.
Where do we go from here, Mike?
What do you see in the cards?
As far as where we go from here.
Um with this particular bill, we've just got to continue to send a message that if if we learned anything from COVID, if we learned anything from who knows how many other incidents, how many other episodes or seasons when the government got too involved in telling us things that turned out to be true, that turned out to be very untrue and turned out to be manipulative.
Uh, the more we can get that message out and just remind people of the fact that governments are there to do some very simple tasks to protect life, liberty, and property.
This government in particular is there to provide for our national defense uh and uh performed a handful of other tests identified in Article 1 section eight of the Constitution.
Happy Constitution Day, by the way.
Um more we can get people focused on that, the greater our chances are going to be to get this thing done.
As far as where we go from here more broadly, I do think we this is a great opportunity for Americans to refocus on the fact that um our government and what it does could never be something that's big enough,
it's uh significant enough part of people's lives to where they define themselves uh uh and their their significance in this life according to what does, even to the point where people feel compelled to murder someone who doesn't share their political worldview simply because other people happen to be listening to that person.
Part of what was so tragic about this event is it was a uh apparent uh uh uh a week ago.
Charlie Kirk wasn't taken down because the shooter didn't like I don't know, his choice of apparel or uh uh what he likes to eat.
It was based on his political views.
That should by itself be a signal to us that something's gone terribly wrong.
This government has gotten way too big, it's gotten way too prominent, and we need to bring it back.
And it's a good way of wrapping it back into Constitution Day.
When we celebrate Constitution Day, we have to remember that the whole point of the Constitution is to restrain government.
Laws typically restrain individuals.
Um the Constitution's whole purpose is to restrain government.
Every provision in it is there as a restraint on government, and we need to accept it as such.
Senator Mike Lee from the great state of Utah.
Thank you so much for talking to me, Mike.
I appreciate it.
Thank you so much.
On this election, we want to try to lose by less with younger voters, and then we are gonna create the most sophisticated, low propensity get out the vote turnout machine um in modern political history for the right.
And here was our our our theory of the case first on the on the get out the vote, which is that we believed that there were millions of people that were Trump supporters that were not Trump voters.
The people that would say, yay, Trump, and they would be with them, but they weren't putting a ballot in a box.
They weren't casting a vote.
And we tested the theory of the case when I started to go to Trump rallies, and I would ask people, and I'd take a lot of selfies, people are super nice and they love the country.
And one out of 30 people, I'd say, Hey, are you registered to vote?
And they'd say, Oh, yeah, I think so, yeah.
And I'd get this kind of, you know, half answer.
And so I I got one back to my team, I said, guys, I think there's a lot more in this reservoir than we realize.
And so we compared it with the data with the Trump camp to campaign, which we were allowed to do thanks to a FBC ruling back in the spring, and we said, guys, let's beat the left at their own game.
Let's engage in early voting, even though it's a flawed system in a way that has never been done before, because it gives us actually more days to get low likely voters to go vote.
If you have 30 days to do it, you can then get someone who is not as easy to persuade to vote, because then you can get five or six touches on them.
So we hired well over one thousand full-time people.
It's the greatest ground force that's ever done.
We we raised tens of millions of dollars, praise God, um, from our donors, and we pitched them on this thing, hey, the road to the White House is going to be going through these states.
We know that.
Um, we're gonna need to first register a ton of voters, build relationships in communities, and then drive a turnout machine over a 30 day period to get Donald Trump across the finish line.
And the states that we primarily focused on was Arizona, Wisconsin.
Uh we had some work, of course, in Pennsylvania, uh in Georgia, but really Arizona, Wisconsin.
Um and in Wisconsin, I can tell you that if it wasn't for our effort, Donald Trump uh would have fallen short.
We chased an excess of over 70,000 low propensity voters in Wisconsin.
Wow.
Donald Trump won by 28,000 votes.
Um here in Arizona, as we are speaking, uh, we still have 850,000 votes left to count.
Uh we we like to take at least 90 days to cut our ballots here.
It's uh it's a joke.
Um and Kerry Lake is only down forty it it it it's it's it's really something else.
I know it is, I know it is we'll find by St. Patrick's Day we'll we'll find out who won the Senate race.
But um Carrie Lake is down forty-four thousand votes here in Arizona, and uh she might she might fall 10,000 votes short or win by 10,000 votes, but um thanks to our effort and the team, uh we closed an eight-point polling gap for Kerry Lake.
And so look, basically what we did is we took this movement that Donald Trump created that Donald Trump led, and we added machinery to the movement, and we were able to successfully turn Trump supporters into Trump voters.
My name is Glenn Beck.
It has been a true honor to fill in uh for Charlie today.
Uh and we're gonna be kind of hanging around for a few days until till Sunday.
Um but uh the feeling here is um godly, very godly.
Tyler Boyer's uh with us.
Um he is the CEO, C C O C O O of Turning Point Action.
We we just played a clip of Charlie and I talking right after the election last time.
And I've talked to people who said what you guys have planned for the midterms and even looking forward to 2028 is awesome.
Gonna make it look like child's play, what happened last time.
Uh are you concerned at all?
You know, uh Glenn, thank you for that.
I mean, I'm obviously that this has been a lot to process this whole last week.
Uh, you know, I'm the COO because Charlie's the CEO.
So losing you know, the you know the the head of the the household here has been has been tough, I think, for all of us.
But the the beautiful part about what we've done and we've been doing is we've been putting our pen to paper this entire time, really focused on what what the plan is, like you mentioned, focused on 2028 and working our way backwards from that, looking at 2032 and working our way backwards.
And when you do it, when you take that process, I mean that's the way that the left does it.
Uh when you take that process, you can actually formulate a plan pretty quickly.
And that's what we've done with our Chase the Vote initiative.
You know, the really great thing is Charlie was not a guy, you you weren't he you weren't joining because you were a fan of him.
I mean, he was teaching principles.
So the base is principle-based.
That's right.
Um, and that's really a healthy thing.
Yeah, I mean, this is that's at the core of the elections.
2028 in particular is really focused on the grassroots.
Uh we are our number one culture point that we have at turning point USA and turning point action is what we call grassroots humility.
If you focus on the grassroots, then you get candidates that the grassroots wants to work for.
And then therefore it kind of builds the program for you.
Um and that's really the beauty of turning point, and we where we felt like we had to step up, really uh coming out of the 2022 election when we realized that you know everybody was not being honest at the what I call the Republican establishment, the the core at the you know I like to call them the evil empire.
The the national republican apparatus, yeah, the evil empire, whatever you want to call them, but the apparatus itself was kind of lying to people and saying, hey, we've got this handle, we've got this handle, we can do this, we can do this.
Red wave, red wave, and they didn't show up with anybody.
And so we knew, and this is the beauty of of Charlie and what we we had done was we had seen the culmination of of how many people kind of became disciples at Turning Point, and we knew that we could take that, and we had to take that talent and convert it into action.
And so that's what really built the C4 plan heading into 2024.
You know, it's really interesting thinking about the coverage leading up to the election.
Um turning point, I think was really put on the line by the coverage.
And I think this was intentional.
There was a a big belief that if Trump lost, if this didn't turn out the right way, there was someone to point uh blame at, and it was you and Charlie.
It was turning point.
That was that was the big setup beforehand.
Oh, well, you're gonna put Charlie Kirk in the in the in in uh ahead of your turnout operation.
I mean, was there a moment where you were like, this is really a a moment that's going to make or break not only the country, but also this organization.
Uh, the beautiful part about being right next to Charlie Kirk for as many years as I've been is that it's a pressure cooker, unlike anything else.
Even with the little small stuff in the early days, is that uh we live for this pressure.
I mean, that's at the end of the day.
That's you talk about Super Bowls, the Super Bowls.
That's what you have to you know, that's what you want.
You want the coverage.
You want to invite in all of that.
So uh, I think the the real beauty in the story uh from this last election cycle, and I'm so glad everything worked out the way it did, you know, not knowing at the time that it was going to be the last time that we would you know run a race together, right?
Like do the work because that that wasn't the plan.
Right.
That was never the the anticipated outcome here.
Uh but but looking back, it's now I guess it's been really hard thinking about all this last week.
Was this I value that and those those individual experiences where it was tough where people did put all that pressure on us, I wouldn't have it any other way.
I really would not have it any other way at all because, excuse me, because had it not been positioned that way, Um I don't know if if the celebration of of what we were able to accomplish for this last election would feel the same.
And and what that would lead into for this next election cycle in the future, now what the legacy of Charlie Kirk will be.
And so that's what we have to live up to.
That's what we have to do.
We are your friends because we're your friends, but we also believe in your mission, and uh we know what you guys are doing.
We are here for you at any time, anything you need.
Thank you very much, Glenn.
I appreciate that.
We love a lot, and we love everybody at Turning Point.
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