The Charlie Kirk Show - Is It Time for Obamagate?
Aired: 2025-07-21
Duration: 45:49


=== Join The Peaceful Community (03:53) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
[00:00:01]  Andrew Colvett in for Charlie Kirk, who's on assignment today.
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[00:00:07]  We're live at the Bitcoin.com studios.
[00:00:09]  We talk about the explosive bombshell allegations made by DNI Tulsi Gabbard about what happened in the weeks between the 2016 election and the inauguration in 2017.
[00:00:23]  Did Obama instruct his Intel community to change and alter and manufacture intelligence to subvert the will of the American people and destroy our democracy?
[00:00:36]  Do we need to be careful to not get too excited and over our skis about the prospects of accountability and prosecutions?
[00:00:43]  Blake Neff joins us to discuss that.
[00:00:45]  Then we welcome Senator Rick Scott to talk about Senate confirmations.
[00:00:49]  Why is this so important?
[00:00:50]  What needs to be done?
[00:00:51]  What can leader Thune do to correct course we are behind?
[00:00:56]  And then finally, we talk about Hunter Biden, the vulgar, bitter drug addict and president's son who's a national embarrassment, but he does have a few good one-liners.
[00:01:05]  We will give him that.
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[00:02:36]  Everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
[00:02:38]  Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this fine show in for you today.
[00:02:42]  Charlie Kirk is on assignment, but we are also joined by Blake Neff.
[00:02:47]  Blake, thanks for joining us this morning.
[00:02:49]  Howdy there, Andrew.
[00:02:50]  Blake, there's a ton of news.
[00:02:51]  I'm going to do a rapid-fire, real quick list of everything that's on my radar right now, and then we're going to get into what I believe is the bombshell story of the morning, which is, of course, DNI Tulsi Gabbard declassifying documents back from 2016, 2017, ahead of when President Trump took office.
[00:03:10]  We're going to go into detail there, and you've got a bit of a contrarian take.
[00:03:13]  I'll give you that.
[00:03:14]  And actually, it's why I wanted you on the show this morning, Blake.
[00:03:17]  I want us to have a clear-eyed view of the landscape so we don't get over our skis.
[00:03:24]  We don't overpromise and under deliver.
[00:03:25]  So we're going to get to that in just a second.
[00:03:27]  But here's just a smattering of some of the things that are going on in the country.
[00:03:32]  We've got borders art Tom Homan saying that we're going to flood the zone in sanctuary cities.
[00:03:38]  He's going to triple down in sanctuary cities.
[00:03:41]  And that, of course, comes after this egregious shooting in New York City where you had two Dominican nationals, illegals, that tried to rob and then shot an off-duty Customs and Border Patrol agent.

=== False Statements And Treason Claims (13:32) ===

[00:03:53]  Just egregious.
[00:03:55]  We've got Scott Besant, who is zeroing in on the Fed, saying that he's not even sure what all these PhDs do there.
[00:04:04]  You've got President Trump calling for an end to cashless bail, which is amazing.
[00:04:10]  He's also calling for a restoration of the names Redskins and Indians, which we completely endorse.
[00:04:16]  It was peak woke that those names changed.
[00:04:18]  We've got pressure on the Senate to get President Trump's confirmations, the judges, all the down-the-line confirmations.
[00:04:26]  We got Obama admitting that Democrats have villainized young men.
[00:04:29]  We've got Kearney in Canada and King Charles in the UK basically blessing and legitimizing the Muslim takeover of those countries and so much more.
[00:04:42]  I mean, I'm probably missing something, but that, I mean, there's a lot going on today.
[00:04:46]  It's absolutely busy news day.
[00:04:49]  But Blake, let's dive into this.
[00:04:51]  And I'm going to give the quick overview of what we're dealing with.
[00:04:56]  This Tulsi Gabbard DNI story is truly explosive.
[00:04:59]  I believe Blake has a contrarian take, but essentially what happened here is DNA Tulsi Gabbard is alleging that after President Trump won the 2016 election, that President Barack Obama and his top officials, including James Clapper, John Brennan, James Comey, Susan Rice, they engaged in a quote-unquote treasonous conspiracy to undermine President Trump's presidency.
[00:05:24]  She claims that they manufactured intelligence.
[00:05:28]  They created a false intelligence report claiming that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help Trump, despite earlier intelligence briefings and conclusions that said the opposite.
[00:05:40]  There was this now famous, infamous December 9th meeting where Obama directed his officials to produce a new intelligence assessment.
[00:05:49]  And this intelligence assessment was ultimately released on January 6th, and it contradicted the prior reports about Russian interference.
[00:05:57]  Then they leaked these claims to the Washington Post, NBC, New York Times, pushing the narrative that Russia interfered and influenced the election outcome.
[00:06:08]  Here's the kicker: they used the Steele dossier, according to Tulsi Gabbard, to build this new assessment.
[00:06:15]  Obviously, the Steele dossier has been completely debunked, is an act of fiction.
[00:06:20]  This, she says, resulted in a years-long coup.
[00:06:24]  Gabbard calls this effort to delegitimize President Trump's victory, leading to the Mueller investigation.
[00:06:30]  Ultimately, you could argue two impeachments, arrests of officials, heightened U.S.-Russian tensions.
[00:06:37]  I mean, the implications of what happened here are extraordinarily far-reaching.
[00:06:43]  And she calls it a years-long coup.
[00:06:45]  And now she has handed over the documents to the GOJ, and she's calling for prosecutions.
[00:06:51]  Now, Democrats, of course, are downplaying it.
[00:06:53]  Jim Hines, Senator Mark Warner have dismissed these claims as baseless.
[00:06:59]  So what does it all mean?
[00:07:02]  I tend to fall on the side of skeptical positivity that we could actually be seeing some accountability here.
[00:07:11]  But I'm skeptical because we've yet to really see accountability across our government and all the scandals and all the quote-unquote conspiracy theories that have been proven correct after the fact.
[00:07:24]  Blake, I want you to paint both a positive and a negative.
[00:07:30]  Give the audience what could result from this and why you think that there might be some speed bumps ahead.
[00:07:37]  Sure thing, Andrew.
[00:07:38]  So the basic narrative, as you laid out, is she's kind of taken stuff that I believe it's mostly things we already had seen before.
[00:07:48]  I can't recall which parts are exactly new that they're bringing out.
[00:07:53]  But what she's highlighting is that in the lead up to the 2016 election, we had intelligence briefings that said it's unlikely Russia can basically change the outcome of the election.
[00:08:05]  And then she says the Russia hoax stuff afterwards was basically an attempt to rewrite this to bring down the administration.
[00:08:14]  Now, I guess the positive version of it would be that if they bring this investigation, they can, well, first of all, it's a good excuse to sort of just delve into every, sorry, to delve into everything that they've ever ever that ever happened in the Obama administration.
[00:08:31]  You can bring up more CAA documents, more FBI documents.
[00:08:34]  Maybe you can find things that they missed before in the prior Inspector General investigations.
[00:08:40]  And you can get them on false statements.
[00:08:42]  I remember a few weeks ago, we had the story that they were looking at possible false statements by Brennan, by Comey, maybe they would bring before Congress.
[00:08:51]  And I mean, we've known Brennan 100% perjured himself to Congress long ago on things like drones spying on Americans and stuff.
[00:09:00]  So they've already lied to Congress about those things.
[00:09:03]  We might be out of the statute of limitations.
[00:09:06]  Just to pause really quick, what would so say this comes to nothing, right?
[00:09:11]  DNI Gabbard's accusations, allegations here come to nothing.
[00:09:16]  Fixate on the FISA lies, which we know, which is proven.
[00:09:18]  He perjured himself before Congress.
[00:09:20]  Don't even worry about the statute of limitations here.
[00:09:23]  What would accountability look like?
[00:09:25]  What's a reasonable expectation?
[00:09:27]  This guy goes to jail for 20 years, dies in prison, or gets a fine, gets his passport revoked.
[00:09:32]  Like, what, I mean, think in terms of what's realistic.
[00:09:37]  I mean, federal, let me look at what the federal perjury statute is, if we got him on that one.
[00:09:43]  So like if we check just the general perjury, it's five years looking here at the, you know, the U.S. Code.
[00:09:51]  So that might be like, that's kind of the maximum.
[00:09:54]  Most federal penalties have a pretty wide range there.
[00:09:56]  So in theory, yeah, you could indict these guys.
[00:09:59]  Although, I'll note, Tulsi's not saying perjury.
[00:10:02]  She's saying treasonous conspiracy.
[00:10:04]  Now, I would first of all caution people, that is very difficult.
[00:10:09]  Stephen Miller is saying seditious conspiracy.
[00:10:12]  Either way, I mean, treasonous conspiracy.
[00:10:15]  Treason is defined in the Constitution as specifically levying war against the United States or giving aid and comfort to its enemies.
[00:10:23]  I think it would be a big stretch to suddenly just stretch that to basically just saying, well, they're undermining the administration, and so that's treasonous.
[00:10:34]  Frankly, that is exactly why we wrote that provision in the Constitution that way, because the old English governments love to use the law that way, and the founders didn't care for that.
[00:10:44]  I think it would be a big reach to try to bring a case like that.
[00:10:49]  And frankly, I just don't think it would work.
[00:10:53]  And I think it's also important to flag political difficulties to this.
[00:10:56]  I mean, they're definitely highlighting Obama here.
[00:10:59]  Obviously, President Trump has his differences with President Obama, but I think it's worth reminding people, broadly speaking, Obama's pretty popular with most Americans.
[00:11:07]  And I think it could end up being a distraction if they're trying to drag Obama into court for his actions at the very end of his presidency because they're mad about how they handled an election that Trump won a decade ago.
[00:11:21]  So that's kind of my gut feeling.
[00:11:23]  We can kind of debate this back and forth.
[00:11:24]  Yeah, I mean, I just have a wildly different emotional, visceral take from this.
[00:11:31]  We have to guard against our emotions and think rationally, prudently.
[00:11:34]  So, Blake, and I actually really appreciate sometimes I tend to be a gas pedal and you could be my break sort of thing.
[00:11:42]  And so I fully appreciate where you're coming from, and I want to see this thing clear-eyed.
[00:11:48]  However, I think to one critical, you know, Pandora's box getting ripped open, right?
[00:11:55]  And nobody wants to live in a country constantly convulsed by legal infighting amongst, you know, where we're trying to throw people in prison all the time.
[00:12:05]  This is not the America you or I grew up in.
[00:12:06]  We don't want that to be the case.
[00:12:08]  But here's the problem.
[00:12:11]  They tried to throw President Trump in prison for 700 years.
[00:12:15]  They tried to bankrupt him.
[00:12:16]  They impeached him twice.
[00:12:18]  They raided his home.
[00:12:20]  Hold on.
[00:12:21]  Who's they, though?
[00:12:22]  Because Obama didn't do that.
[00:12:24]  That's true.
[00:12:25]  But Obama started a lot of the precedent if the allegations are proven true that he actually directed this based on and directed the intel community to give him a different assessment.
[00:12:36]  Apparently hours before the original assessment was about to be published, they pulled it based on new direction.
[00:12:44]  The new direction, apparently, is directly tied to Obama.
[00:12:47]  Now, we don't even have to go after Obama, okay?
[00:12:51]  There is James Clapper, Brennan, there's Comey, there's Susan Rice, there's put up the shady bunch clip, right?
[00:12:59]  Where they've got the image here.
[00:13:01]  I mean, President Trump's putting this out, right?
[00:13:04]  Valerie Jarrett, there was a lot of people in this meeting.
[00:13:07]  And one of the reasons that this is infuriating, I think, to so many people and why we want to see actual accountability is, again, because what they did to President Trump and the egregiousness of their actions, the fact that there was no line, the fact that there was no prudence in the way that they went about things.
[00:13:28]  And they lost.
[00:13:29]  They lost bad.
[00:13:29]  And so that should also be a lesson to us, that we don't want to get over our skis and make allegations that ultimately backfire on us.
[00:13:38]  So I want to guard against that.
[00:13:41]  But I do believe that there has to be actionable offenses here because of what ultimately happened.
[00:13:46]  The Russia, Russia, Russia narrative spread like wildfire on purpose because they leaked it.
[00:13:52]  They used the steel dossier in order to do it, which has been completely discredited, which was paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign as compromise, as not even compromised, as sort of like ginning up fake stories.
[00:14:05]  And it turned out to be completely and utterly false.
[00:14:09]  And yet our nation was dragged into the mud for a very, very long time as a result.
[00:14:15]  All right, go ahead, Blake.
[00:14:16]  Yeah, the floor is yours.
[00:14:18]  Yeah, so we were discussing there just, you know, whether this is ultimately like worthwhile.
[00:14:24]  I would, I guess I always want to advise caution on these things.
[00:14:27]  First of all, this is delving back a long time.
[00:14:30]  A decade is a long time ago in U.S. politics.
[00:14:35]  You know, it'd be like if, oh, man, it would be like if the Obama administration was investigating stuff that happened at the end of the Clinton administration, or if you were suddenly, you know, if you were suddenly dredging up stuff from 1992 after 9-11.
[00:14:51]  But Blake, because President Trump won, then he was not, then Biden took over, and now he's back again.
[00:14:57]  It feels like one cohesive storyline.
[00:15:00]  Do you know what I mean?
[00:15:00]  Like it's all very connected.
[00:15:03]  This is real life.
[00:15:04]  It's not a Netflix show.
[00:15:05]  Like, okay, storylines.
[00:15:07]  But in the end, this is litigating something where they're mad about a failed, remember, a failed effort to maybe undo the 2017 election.
[00:15:19]  This is my pushback.
[00:15:20]  It didn't fail because it dragged the country into the mud.
[00:15:23]  It completely derailed, at least in part, President Trump's first term.
[00:15:28]  But dragging a country into the mud, dragging a country into a political dispute is not a crime.
[00:15:34]  It is not.
[00:15:35]  When it leads to special counsels like Robert Mueller, when it leads to- did Mueller indict Trump?
[00:15:43]  Nope, he didn't, thankfully, because there was no there there.
[00:15:47]  But this is the point: is that it was clear from the Intel assessment originally that there was no there there.
[00:15:54]  And yet they created a narrative to say there was a there there.
[00:15:57]  I want to flag that too.
[00:15:58]  So, this is another thing where I could, I think they could get in trouble if they chase this too hard.
[00:16:03]  Yeah, so again, if you get false statements on Brennan, like I kind of hate Brennan, I kind of hate Clapper.
[00:16:08]  I think it'd be nice to see them like kind of squirm in a, you know, in the diversity.
[00:16:13]  They're just nasty.
[00:16:14]  I don't kind of hate them.
[00:16:15]  But yes.
[00:16:16]  But then that's like a narrow and specific thing.
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=== Evidence Of Past Collusion Mistakes (08:45) ===

[00:17:26]  All right, Blake, you're saying we should be a little bit more cautious.
[00:17:29]  I actually agree with you.
[00:17:31]  I agree with caution.
[00:17:34]  I am still, I think, channeling a lot of the emotions that our base and our audience is feeling because, yes, it was 2016, 2017, and we're all the way in 2025 now.
[00:17:44]  But this all feels like yesterday to all of us.
[00:17:47]  And we lived through what was so unprecedented.
[00:17:52]  And it feels like these are the people responsible for dragging the nation through such a traumatic and unnecessary experience that resulted in Robert Moeller that probably led to two impeachments.
[00:18:05]  You could make the argument at least.
[00:18:07]  Maybe not a direct line, but it certainly is part of it.
[00:18:10]  And we've got the DNI of saying this is a years-long coup and treasonous conspiracy.
[00:18:16]  So you're saying be cautious.
[00:18:18]  I appreciate it.
[00:18:19]  And make your point because I think it's important.
[00:18:21]  Well, so one thing I really want to highlight is there's a bit of a slate of hand going on with what Tulsi Gabbard says in her post, because let me bring it up here.
[00:18:34]  So when she's summarizing her stuff on X, this is where she posted it last Friday.
[00:18:40]  The stuff she's highlighting before the election, where she's using this to argue that they changed course.
[00:18:46]  So for example, on September 9th, there's a presidential daily briefing and it says, we agree Russia probably is not and will not be trying to influence the election by using cyber means to manipulate computer-enabled election infrastructure.
[00:19:04]  And similarly, on December 7th, they have these talking points from James Clapper.
[00:19:11]  We assess that foreign adversaries did not use cyber attacks on election infrastructure to alter the U.S. presidential election outcome this year.
[00:19:20]  We have no evidence of cyber manipulation of election infrastructure intended to alter results.
[00:19:27]  So that's what she's flagging as the evidence of what they really believed was going on.
[00:19:32]  And then she says that on December 8th, they suddenly pivoted to this new, they're handling all their, they're looking at the evidence again.
[00:19:41]  And then they put out in early January, they put out new talking points that basically amount to, let's see, do I have it here?
[00:19:51]  Like they were prepared to produce an assessment per the president's request.
[00:19:56]  And then basically what they said is that they're looking like Russia, you know, Russia interfered in the election.
[00:20:01]  They did the Russia hack in order to help President Trump.
[00:20:04]  When they pivot to this, they actually never say Russia, we've changed our mind, Russia changed election results.
[00:20:11]  You can go and look at the articles.
[00:20:12]  They explicitly say Russia didn't do that.
[00:20:15]  What they say is they went into the big picture supposed Russian, the Russian collusion scandal, which was that Russia wanted Trump to win, so they did other stuff, or that Russia had contacts with the Trump administration.
[00:20:31]  And so that's how we got the entrapment of General Flynn.
[00:20:34]  That's how we got the whole Russia collusion thing.
[00:20:38]  That's what Russia collusion meant, the bogus idea that the Trump campaign was literally actively working with the Russians.
[00:20:46]  That was total nonsense.
[00:20:47]  That was total woo-woo.
[00:20:49]  That was total BS.
[00:20:51]  But that is not what is being said in these early memos that are being treated as the smoking gun.
[00:20:56]  They're kind of taking two things that are doing it.
[00:20:59]  And I agree with you.
[00:21:00]  I agree with you.
[00:21:01]  And they might have been so crafty in this, Blake, that they'll end up getting away with it, right?
[00:21:06]  But the way that I see it is that it's two sides of the same coin.
[00:21:10]  They're not going to come out and instantly in an Intel assessment and say Trump coordinated with Russia.
[00:21:17]  That would have been, I think, a misstep on their part.
[00:21:21]  And I think they probably knew that.
[00:21:22]  The smarter play was to say Russia was certainly doing this.
[00:21:26]  And so I see it as a conspiracy because they're already looking at the Russian steel dossier here.
[00:21:35]  They're taking pieces of it, leaking the narrative to the press and seeding it.
[00:21:39]  And then the rest of the work is done by the media and by talking heads on TV.
[00:21:43]  And next thing you know, Trump is colluding with Russia.
[00:21:46]  Okay, so Russia is certainly trying to collude or is trying to influence the U.S., according to their fake assessment, to alter the election results, which they weren't.
[00:21:56]  So now, so the Intel community does their part, and it's very easy for the mind to then fill in the blank that Trump is colluding with the Russians to do this.
[00:22:05]  So my point is, is that, yeah, maybe this, maybe, maybe they were being a little cute and they were being, I don't know, they were holding back, going all the way to saying Trump had something to do with it.
[00:22:16]  But ultimately, that's exactly what the story became.
[00:22:19]  Why did it become that?
[00:22:21]  It's because they had seeded the ground.
[00:22:23]  They had absolutely inserted into the zeitgeist that Trump and Russia together in harmony, and that ended up derailing and completely distracting President Trump.
[00:22:34]  You had Hillary Clinton calling him an illegitimate president for years.
[00:22:38]  I don't know if she's still saying she probably is.
[00:22:40]  Blake, I think it's important if we just got to hear Tulsi in her own words here.
[00:22:44]  So let's go ahead and play cut 252, Tulsi Gabbard.
[00:22:48]  Over 100 documents that we released on Friday really detail and provide evidence of how this treasonous conspiracy was directed by President Obama just weeks before he was due to leave office, after President Trump had already gotten elected.
[00:23:07]  This is not a Democrat or Republican issue.
[00:23:10]  This is an issue that is so serious it should concern every single American because it has to do with the integrity of our Democratic Republic.
[00:23:18]  Treasonous conspiracy.
[00:23:20]  I mean, she's coming out guns ablazing.
[00:23:23]  And listen, again, I want to reiterate, I appreciate the fact that you're urging caution here because I tend to agree with you.
[00:23:31]  We're not going to get everything we want.
[00:23:32]  And there is a segment of the base that's not going to be happy until we see, you know, Anthony Fauci and Brennan, like, you know, strung up from their entrails or something like that.
[00:23:41]  I mean, so it's like, I'm not saying that that's what's going to happen.
[00:23:44]  You're saying, hey, the statute, maybe it's a five-year prison sentence.
[00:23:47]  I think we should push to get some accountability here because I do think what they did was completely out of bounds.
[00:23:53]  I think it was completely out of line.
[00:23:55]  And it ended up having these tremendous downstream effects.
[00:23:58]  And there needs to be accountability on our IC.
[00:24:00]  There just simply has to be.
[00:24:02]  Blake.
[00:24:02]  Well, it's just, I think, first of all, I think we should appreciate that they, we saw the outcome of attempting to just basically gin up ways to put your political opposition in prison.
[00:24:15]  And it was, Donald Trump got elected again last November.
[00:24:19]  They made him a lot more powerful.
[00:24:20]  They basically guaranteed he would be the nominee.
[00:24:22]  And it exploded in their faces.
[00:24:24]  And he, you know, he won the popular vote, won more states than ever before.
[00:24:28]  So there's clearly like some potential political downsides to this sort of thing.
[00:24:34]  But I think that that's partly because President Trump is just a singular, unique political phenomenon that wouldn't be cowed by this and didn't stop fighting.
[00:24:42]  Any other era, I mean, if you just go back a few different iterations of Republican presidential nominees, they would not have done this.
[00:24:49]  Trump is singular in that.
[00:24:51]  And so just because he was able to overcome all of this, everything that was thrown at him is, I think, more of a testament to him and his willpower and his courage than it is to sort of saying, hey, this backfired because it's a dumb thing to do.
[00:25:06]  It very well could have been a very smart thing to do.
[00:25:09]  It just didn't work out for him this time.
[00:25:11]  So again, I would encourage everyone to kind of pause.
[00:25:14]  And let's look at what we're saying here.
[00:25:16]  It was a treasonous conspiracy because we were distracted by this in 2017, 2018.
[00:25:23]  Getting distracted is not a crime.
[00:25:25]  It's actually, it's the sort of, it's a very vague, like, frankly, it almost sounds kind of sinister.
[00:25:31]  And I think you'll have trouble selling that to the American public that, you know, these people committed a treasonous conspiracy because like people were watching it on the news and they got really irritated by it.
[00:25:45]  Yes.
[00:25:45]  Or like because we got a special counsel.
[00:25:47]  Well, Obama didn't appoint the special counsel.
[00:25:49]  Comey didn't appoint the special counsel.
[00:25:51]  The Trump administration appointed the special counsel.
[00:25:54]  This is Rod Rosenstein as directed by Jeff Sessions.
[00:25:59]  And I think we can agree that was a mistake, but it wasn't something that they did.
[00:26:03]  And similarly, it happened because of the firing of Comey, which they didn't do.
[00:26:08]  President Trump did that.
[00:26:10]  And it's muddling things.

=== Senate Confirmations And Recess Battles (09:16) ===

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[00:26:13]  Those are good pushbacks, but it wasn't just distraction.
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[00:27:27]  We are waiting, Senator Rick Scott, to join us.
[00:27:30]  We're going to be talking about Senate appointments with Senator Scott.
[00:27:36]  I want to play just a little bit more tape of Tulsi and what she's alleging.
[00:27:41]  Let's go ahead and play cut 254.
[00:27:45]  The seriousness of, again, the implications and the consequences of these actions that were taken demand accountability.
[00:27:53]  The American people not only deserve the truth and accountability, when we look at the future of our country as a Democratic republic and the American people's ability to have faith that when they go and cast a vote at the ballot box, that the will of the people will be respected by those in government, whether they be Democrats or Republicans.
[00:28:12]  This is literally what is at stake here.
[00:28:14]  So we are referring all of our documents to the Department of Justice for the purpose of accountability and action.
[00:28:23]  There must be accountability.
[00:28:25]  The truth must be shown to the American people in order to ensure that there is this faith and trust and integrity in our Democratic Republic for the sake of the future of our country.
[00:28:37]  There is DNI Tulsi Gabbard calling for accountability.
[00:28:41]  A sentiment I know many of you in the audience feel.
[00:28:43]  I personally feel it.
[00:28:44]  Gonna wait for all the facts to come out.
[00:28:46]  We don't want to get over our skis or ahead of ourselves.
[00:28:48]  Here to help make sense of that, and we're also gonna get into Senate confirmations is Senator Rick Scott from the great state of Florida, a great friend of the show and a great patriot.
[00:28:58]  Senator, welcome to the show.
[00:29:00]  Thanks for your time this morning.
[00:29:02]  Really quickly, just reflect on the allegations that are coming out of DNI, Tulsi Gabbard.
[00:29:08]  I know you lived through this firsthand, just like the rest of us.
[00:29:12]  What's your take on what's happening?
[00:29:15]  First off, it makes sense.
[00:29:16]  The first thing you always think about in life, okay, does this make sense, right?
[00:29:19]  I think what Tulsi said made a lot of sense.
[00:29:22]  And so I hope my goal is we get to the bottom of it and let's find out.
[00:29:25]  But it never made sense, this Russian hoax.
[00:29:28]  It always seemed like it was all fabrication to hurt Trump and hurt Republicans.
[00:29:33]  And so I'm glad Tulsi is doing her job in bringing this out.
[00:29:36]  And I hope we have a thorough investigation.
[00:29:38]  Let's get the facts out.
[00:29:40]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:29:41]  And, you know, President Trump is like a dog with a bone on this.
[00:29:45]  His truth social was going off, calling him the shady bunch.
[00:29:48]  No one's above the law with clips of Obama saying that.
[00:29:52]  You know, it's going to be a fascinating next couple of days.
[00:29:55]  I know she's saying that there's going to be further announcements in the coming days.
[00:29:58]  And I know you guys are going to be all over that.
[00:30:00]  Let's pivot really quick here, Senator.
[00:30:03]  You know, President Trump had a truth out, and he said, hopefully the very talented John Thune, fresh off our many victories over the past two weeks and indeed six months, will cancel August recess and long weekends in order to get my incredible nominees confirmed.
[00:30:22]  We need them badly signed, DJT.
[00:30:26]  Senator, for the uninitiated, the unaware, what's the August recess?
[00:30:32]  What are these long weekends?
[00:30:33]  This feels like a friendly jab at Senate Leader Thune.
[00:30:38]  Well, first off, here's what's happened.
[00:30:40]  The Democrats have decided they're going to slow down all confirmation on the Senate floor of Trump nominees.
[00:30:47]  What that means is by doing that, they can only allow us to do a vote on a nominee every two hours.
[00:30:54]  Okay.
[00:30:54]  So that way you would think, well, how many hours?
[00:30:56]  There's 24 hours in a day, right?
[00:30:58]  Well, no, We don't work that many days.
[00:31:01]  I mean, our first vote on Mondays is at 5.30.
[00:31:03]  I was shocked.
[00:31:04]  I mean, I'm a guy.
[00:31:04]  I'm a business guy.
[00:31:05]  I worked 80 hours a week my whole life.
[00:31:07]  So we come in, we start at 5.30 on Mondays, p.m., not a.m.
[00:31:11]  Okay.
[00:31:12]  And then we generally finish on 145 on Thursdays.
[00:31:16]  So, and we don't do numbers.
[00:31:17]  We don't start early in the morning.
[00:31:20]  So number one is we can work five days a week.
[00:31:22]  We can work weekends and we can work longer hours.
[00:31:25]  That would be the number one.
[00:31:27]  Number two is we're this year we're scheduled.
[00:31:30]  I think it's 40 weeks out of the 52 weeks to be in DC.
[00:31:34]  Now, in theory, the other 12 weeks are going to be at home working, but some people will take vacations.
[00:31:39]  So in August, we're typically off all of August.
[00:31:43]  We usually have a four, that's our biggest break.
[00:31:45]  It's a four-week break.
[00:31:47]  That's where people go either go on vacation, they travel at home and visit the constituents or travel around the world, like going to other countries to meet with the political and military leaders.
[00:31:57]  So what the president is saying is, get my nominees done.
[00:32:01]  You can work five days a week.
[00:32:02]  You can work weekends or you can cancel your recess.
[00:32:06]  I agree with him.
[00:32:07]  Let's get to work.
[00:32:08]  That's my slow.
[00:32:09]  Andrew, that was my slogan when I ran in 2010.
[00:32:11]  Let's get to work.
[00:32:12]  That's what I've always believed.
[00:32:13]  I believe in working.
[00:32:15]  That's great.
[00:32:15]  I mean, that's fantastic.
[00:32:17]  So we know that you're a hard worker.
[00:32:19]  We know that you're a successful businessman because of that, what you did in Florida.
[00:32:22]  But also, explain that, I mean, because I think for the general public, we looked at, okay, we got Gabbard and Hegseth and Marco Rubio.
[00:32:31]  We got all these guys confirmed.
[00:32:32]  We got the cabinet appointed much quicker than we did in Trump 1.0.
[00:32:37]  What kind of positions do we need to be looking to fill with these Senate confirmations?
[00:32:41]  Explain kind of tier one, tier two, tier three.
[00:32:44]  Well, for all the agencies, we have undersecretaries for state, for defense.
[00:32:50]  We have undersecretaries that have to be confirmed.
[00:32:53]  That's number one.
[00:32:55]  Number two is we have ambassadors that have to be confirmed.
[00:32:59]  Number three is we have judges that have to be confirmed.
[00:33:01]  Number four, we have U.S. attorneys that have to be confirmed.
[00:33:04]  Next, we have U.S. Marshals that have to be confirmed.
[00:33:07]  So I think, Andrew, this might be off a little bit, but I think we have about 900 people that need to be confirmed.
[00:33:13]  Now we have, they first go through a committee.
[00:33:15]  So we have somewhere between 150, 160 people that have already gone through the committee process.
[00:33:21]  And so they're waiting for the confirmation on the Senate floor.
[00:33:24]  Historically, all right, before Trump, you know, the you know, the Democrats would allow you to do a batch of them because it's some of these people have come through with unanimous consent out of a committee and things like that.
[00:33:38]  There's no controversy in them.
[00:33:40]  It's not like it's Supreme Court judge, things like that.
[00:33:43]  So, but the Democrats, they're sitting here.
[00:33:45]  Number one, they're the ones slowing this down, but we've got to, you know, we've got to, we've got to sticker, we got it, we've got to start coming in earlier, working later, working weekends.
[00:33:55]  If we have to cancel recess, cancel recess.
[00:33:58]  I think, you know, I speak for our audience, Senator, that we agree the Senate schedule is an abomination.
[00:34:07]  Can Leader Thune, can he simply just change the rules?
[00:34:11]  Like, how much power does he have to cancel August recess or to extend to a five-day work week so you're not leaving at Thursday, you know, at four o'clock?
[00:34:20]  So the leader of the Senate right now, majority leaders as John Thune, he can he decides our schedule.
[00:34:27]  Now, here's his limitation: senators have to stay here.
[00:34:31]  So he can say we're going to be here.
[00:34:33]  And people say, well, I'm not going to show up, then there's nothing he can do about it.
[00:34:37]  So number one, you know, we have to say we're going to stay here.
[00:34:40]  And number two, people have to stay.
[00:34:43]  They have to say, I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to, I'm not going to leave on Thursday at 1:45 after the, you know, after that vote.
[00:34:50]  I'm willing to stay on Fridays and Saturdays and Sundays and recess, whatever it is.
[00:34:55]  So it takes both.
[00:34:56]  It takes John Thune to say it and takes senators to show up.
[00:34:59]  Republican senators.
[00:35:00]  Yeah, I was going to say, if all the Democrats basically say, hey, we're not going to show up, but we get 53 Republicans, is that enough to keep going on?
[00:35:09]  If they just don't want to show up, that's their own problem, right?
[00:35:11]  Yeah, we can, if we, if, if, yeah, the only thing though, the old, yeah, so the value of the Democrats showing up is that maybe they'll, maybe at some point, they'll say, hey, we'll let these go through quicker.
[00:35:25]  So we won't make a two-hour wait for each one.

=== Balancing Debt And Interest Rates (05:02) ===

[00:35:28]  Yeah.
[00:35:28]  You do impact.
[00:35:30]  For the audience edification here, I mean, we need tons of these undersecretaries confirmed.
[00:35:36]  It's a huge barrier to actually getting the Trump mandate and the agenda off the ground.
[00:35:41]  And people don't realize that.
[00:35:42]  Yes, we've got the top cabinet officials in place and that's huge and they're setting the tone.
[00:35:49]  But if they don't have people below them to execute on this agenda, it's going to be a massive, massive impediment to actually getting the agenda.
[00:36:00]  And judges and U.S. attorneys and U.S. marshals, ambassadors.
[00:36:08]  Andrew, I think it's 100, and I'd have to look at the list.
[00:36:10]  I think it's at least 150, might be 160 people we're waiting for right now.
[00:36:14]  My goodness.
[00:36:15]  So the ball is in Leader Thun's court right now.
[00:36:18]  The eyes of the nation, especially President Trump supporters, are on you, sir.
[00:36:23]  Please, please, please.
[00:36:26]  President Trump is giving friendly jabs right now.
[00:36:29]  We're giving friendly jabs.
[00:36:30]  Let's get the job done.
[00:36:32]  We don't want to have to turn up the heat, but we will.
[00:36:34]  This is a huge, huge issue that, you know, it's not grabbing headlines like, you know, Tulsi Gabbard and ObamaGate and things like that.
[00:36:43]  It is massively important to the work of the country actually getting done.
[00:36:47]  Real quick, sir, Senator, real quick, breaking news.
[00:36:52]  Jerome Powell has just been referred to the DOJ for criminal charges for perjury related to his $2.5 billion renovation of the Federal Reserve building.
[00:37:01]  Rep Luna is alleging that Powell falsely downplayed the project's $600 million cost increase and denied the existence of luxury features like a VIP dining room and rooftop garden.
[00:37:11]  So we're going to watch that.
[00:37:15]  Andrew, that 2.5 trade is more than it takes to build a football stadium.
[00:37:20]  That's a renovation.
[00:37:22]  Yeah.
[00:37:22]  Okay.
[00:37:22]  More than a football station.
[00:37:24]  Yeah.
[00:37:24]  No, I agree.
[00:37:28]  I think it's an interesting one because we're talking about allegations of perjury on the cost of a billion.
[00:37:35]  But by the way, I'm not saying I'm against it in theory because in principle, the budget overruns, you've got this, and I know this hits close to home, Senator.
[00:37:44]  You've got Democrats in California, what was it supposed to be $30 billion?
[00:37:48]  Now they're saying it's $133 billion for this high-speed rail.
[00:37:52]  President Trump has now pulled the federal funding from that.
[00:37:55]  I know in Florida, you rejected such a similar project.
[00:37:59]  My first month in office, I mean, I had the same opportunity my first month in office.
[00:38:04]  Obama wanted me to build a high-speed train that had to stop 15 times between Orlando and Tampa.
[00:38:09]  Okay.
[00:38:10]  It was going to cost the state at least a trillion dollars and lose $100 billion a year.
[00:38:14]  Now, do you think that was something I would do as a business guy?
[00:38:17]  But climate change, Senator.
[00:38:19]  But climate change.
[00:38:20]  Yeah, that's.
[00:38:21]  I mean, that's...
[00:38:21]  Powell guy did it.
[00:38:23]  Yeah, I mean, absolutely.
[00:38:24]  Well, I mean, I'm glad they pulled the funding.
[00:38:26]  So when it comes to Powell, it's like, listen, I know we want him to get out.
[00:38:29]  He's not lowering rates when the rest of the world is lowering rates and it's having a massive financial impact on our debt, even.
[00:38:36]  So I understand the impetus here.
[00:38:38]  I just want to make sure that if we're going to criminalize budget overruns in D.C., I mean, the whole town's going to be locked up.
[00:38:48]  So I just want to caution the audience a little bit in that.
[00:38:51]  Final words, Senator.
[00:38:52]  What are our marching orders?
[00:38:53]  What do we need to get done in the next week?
[00:38:55]  What do they need to keep their eyes on 30 seconds?
[00:38:58]  Right now, what we're going to be doing is we're starting the appropriations process.
[00:39:01]  So be very, have high expectations that we're heading towards a balanced budget.
[00:39:06]  Trump wants a balanced budget.
[00:39:07]  We've got to balance the budget or we'll not see lower interest rates.
[00:39:10]  We'll not see inflation under control.
[00:39:11]  That's the biggest issue we got to deal with right now.
[00:39:13]  Amen.
[00:39:14]  The affordability crisis is massive.
[00:39:18]  And Senator, just to make sure we keep our eyes on the prize here, when we talk to young people, it's all about they can't own homes, they can't start families.
[00:39:25]  We need to address that.
[00:39:27]  Thank you for your time, Senator.
[00:39:29]  We're always honored to have you.
[00:39:30]  Thank you so much.
[00:39:31]  Andrew, nice seeing you.
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=== Hunter Biden Loan Scandal Details (04:10) ===

[00:40:30]  Let's go ahead and play a little Hunter Biden 279.
[00:40:35]  If I became president in two years from now, or four years from now, or three years from now, I would pick up the phone and call President El Salvador and say, you either send them back or I'm going to invade.
[00:40:49]  Crime what they're doing.
[00:40:51]  He's dictator Thug.
[00:40:53]  Bukely or Drum.
[00:40:54]  Both.
[00:40:55]  You know, I wanted these clips, and the whole team's like, it's just taking forever to edit out all the F-words.
[00:41:01]  This guy is a.
[00:41:02]  It sounds like we don't have like a working video.
[00:41:05]  Like it's all like bugged out because he's swearing so much.
[00:41:07]  We just have to.
[00:41:08]  We actually should have like a beep sounding.
[00:41:10]  I think when they're really just cursing, like I agree, let's work the beeps to really like signal that.
[00:41:16]  Let's work the beeps in the next time we get a clip from Hunter Biden.
[00:41:20]  283.
[00:41:21]  He continues.
[00:41:22]  Be like all these Democrats say, you have to talk about and realize that people are really upset about illegal immigration.
[00:41:30]  You.
[00:41:30]  How do you think your hotel room gets cleaned?
[00:41:32]  How do you think you got food on your table?
[00:41:35]  Who do you think washes your dishes?
[00:41:37]  Who do you think does your garden?
[00:41:39]  Who do you think is here by the sheer just grit and will that they figured out a way to get here because they thought that they could give themselves and their family a better chance?
[00:41:52]  And he's somehow convinced all of us that these people are criminals.
[00:41:58]  So Hunter Biden is the pure embodiment of this elite class of Americans that have never worked an honest day in their lives.
[00:42:08]  And they expect that we can just throw away the entire country, ignore our immigration laws, ignore the border, ignore all the fentanyl that comes in, ignore all the crime, ignores the fact that a CBP officer was just shot in an attempted robbery in New York City when he was off duty by a foreign national from the Dominican Republic.
[00:42:28]  These guys couldn't care less about you.
[00:42:30]  They couldn't care less about what happens to your schools, your DMVs, your hospitals.
[00:42:35]  They couldn't care less.
[00:42:36]  And he is a complete embodiment of the grotesque, corrupt, perverted nature of the DC and New York City ruling elite that have thrown this country into such turmoil and thrown you down the river.
[00:42:49]  Blake, what's your take?
[00:42:51]  I think it's funny how he just trashes the Democratic Party.
[00:42:54]  Like, James Clapper hasn't won anything in ages.
[00:42:58]  Dave Laxeron's terrible.
[00:43:00]  Anita Don's terrible.
[00:43:01]  Jake Tapper is terrible.
[00:43:03]  I don't know if we have that one ready yet, but if we don't, like, it's pretty funny.
[00:43:06]  I had a friend actually message.
[00:43:08]  He sent me the clip and then he said, Vance Biden 2028, which certainly is a funny visual image.
[00:43:15]  Not actually, of course.
[00:43:17]  I think we've had enough cocaine in the White House for a while.
[00:43:21]  So here's actually his quote: He says, F him and everybody around him.
[00:43:26]  George Clooney is not effing an actor.
[00:43:30]  He's a brand.
[00:43:31]  James Carville hasn't won a race in 40 effing years.
[00:43:35]  David Axelrod had one success in his political life, and that was Barack Obama, and that was because of Barack Obama.
[00:43:40]  The Pod Save America guys were junior effing speech writers on Barack Obama's Senate staff who have been dining out on the relationships with him, making millions.
[00:43:49]  Anita Dunn has made 40 to 50 million off the Democrat Party.
[00:43:53]  What influence does Jake Tapper have over anything?
[00:43:56]  He has the smallest audience on cable news.
[00:43:59]  I mean, tough to argue with any of those points, Blake.
[00:44:03]  Yeah, that would be a good point.
[00:44:05]  If that was a speech someone delivered like at a turning point that would bring the house down, it would be amazing.
[00:44:12]  Maybe not so many F-words, okay, for the kids.
[00:44:15]  But I mean, he is a foul-mouthed, like bitter drug addict, and he sounds like one.
[00:44:23]  Yeah.
[00:44:25]  What else are you going to say?
[00:44:26]  Okay, one other thing.
[00:44:27]  I want to get this clip.
[00:44:28]  Obama is trying to take ownership of the fact that he has that they villainized and belittled young men.

=== Investing In Boys Intentionally (01:08) ===

[00:44:41]  That they made a mistake in this.
[00:44:42]  255.
[00:44:44]  As quote-unquote progressives, Democrats, progressive parents, enlightened ones, we've made that mistake sometimes in terms of our rhetoric, where it's like we're constantly talking about, you know, what's wrong with the boys instead of what's right with them.
[00:45:03]  We rightly have tried to invest in girls to make sure that there's a level playing field and then they're not barred from opportunities.
[00:45:15]  But we haven't been as willing, I think, to be intentional about investing in the boys, and that's been a mistake.
[00:45:23]  Oh, he's right.
[00:45:26]  And thanks to their misstep, you might have delivered the presidency for a second time to President Trump because we actually gave a message of hope and opportunity to young men that have been villainized by the Democrat Party for far too long.
[00:45:40]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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