Savannah Chrisley grew up under the microscope of reality TV stardom, and then had to endure the humiliation of her parents being indicted, prosecuted, and sent to prison. But Savannah never wavered in advocating for her parents’ innocence. She joined Charlie at YWLS to discuss her successful long shot bid to get a pardon for her parents from President Trump. The two discuss shady federal prosecutors, appalling prison conditions, Donald Trump’s remarkable memory, and more. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Great to meet you.
You as well.
And so your family's been the headlines a little bit last couple of weeks.
Yes.
And you kind of are a central player in all this.
Yes.
So for people that have no idea who you are or your family is, who are you?
So I grew up in Atlanta, Fulton County, and we had a TV show.
It was on USA Network for 10 seasons.
And it was one of the highest rated on cable television.
It was on USA, re-ran on EM Bravo.
I think it was the first time that had ever happened where it was on three different networks.
And it was just an overnight success.
And it was more of a scripted comedy.
What was it?
It was my dad, like, is a very strict parent.
And it was, but it was more comedy.
He knew how to parent in a way that was very tough.
But at the end of the day, he always made it fun.
And both my parents were in real estate.
And obviously during 08, when the crash happened, the world was on fire.
It impacted his business the most.
And when that happened, everything went downhill.
And then they were under investigation.
I think it was in 2012 it started.
And then in 2019, there was a federal indictment to come down.
And it was history for many.
So what was the show called?
Sorry for my Christley knows best.
And the show was like...
It was more of a scripted comedy.
You were part of it as well?
Yes.
Yeah.
So me, all my siblings, my parents, my grandmother.
It was just your big southern larger than life family.
And so 2012 to 2019, that's a seven-year investigation.
Yes.
For people that don't know, what was that all about?
Yeah.
Well, I like to say if it takes you seven years to issue a formal indictment, then you don't have that strong of a case.
But unfortunately, my dad's former business partner had signed a full immunity deal with the government.
And he got on the stand and said, I committed all these crimes, but they knew that I was, like they knew I was doing it.
And all the charges were tax fraud, bank fraud, conspiracy.
Then they came down with a superseding indictment once my parents wouldn't budge and enter into a plea deal, as the government does.
What was the main accusations?
Tax fraud and bank fraud.
Bank fraud probably being the largest because they actually, during trial, they didn't even get sentenced to time on the tax fraud.
It was all, they were sentenced based off of the bank fraud conspiracy.
And so then they got sentenced when?
They got sentenced in, what year was it, Mom?
June of 22.
Yeah.
Oh, she's here.
June.
Yeah, she is here.
Congratulations.
Yeah, so June of 22 was when we got the guilty verdict.
Wow, that's a 10-year thing.
That's insane.
And it was in Fulton County.
Our judge was the youngest black female appointed by Obama.
Both prosecutors were federal court.
Yes, federal court.
And both prosecutors donated to Democratic campaigns.
They referred to us as the Trumps of the South in a meeting in front of the judge and our lawyers.
It was, we knew at that point that it was going downhill fast.
So then what was amazing, how long was the prison sentence?
My dad got 12 years and my mom got seven.
And so just to be clear, did your dad like burn down a Wendy's or something?
You know, you would think.
Yeah, you would think.
I mean, 12 years for white-collar crime and first-time offender, I imagine.
Nonviolent first-time offender.
Yes.
Meanwhile, you can burn the streets in the summer of 2020 and we give you money.
Yes, exactly.
It's an outrageous situation.
That's what I have said.
And at the end of the day, if they did what they were accused of doing, if it is a financial crime, meet it with a financial punishment.
Because, I mean, that hurts just as bad, but that's not what happened.
And I like to compare it to Elizabeth Holmes in that whole case.
She got 11 years for, I think a billion dollars worth of fraud and people supposedly lost their lives.
Like it was, this was a very political persecution.
So the so they get sentenced to jail in 2022.
And so you, where were you at in your life at that time?
I was, we were filming a new TV show.
So where we were filming a new season of the TV show.
The network actually signed a new deal after the indictment came down.
They knew everything that was going on.
They figured it'd be good for ratings or something?
Well, they wouldn't even let us speak about it, which was interesting.
So it put us in a bad light because it made us look like liars and this whole scheme.
But we were filming a TV show and we never expected it to go the way that it did.
We spent millions of dollars on trial lawyers and they threw the book at them.
So they get sentenced to jail.
How long between sentencing and actually arrival?
So they were sentenced.
Well, they were found guilty in June of 23.
Then in November of 23, they were sentenced.
And I say the only thing the judge, thank you.
The only thing the judge did for us was she gave us Thanksgiving and Christmas to have together.
And then January, they, January 17th of 2023 is when both my parents reported to federal prison.
And at that time, I got custody of my 10-year-old brother and my 10-year-old sister and 16-year-old brother.
Oh my gosh, I can't even speak today.
10-year-old sister and 16-year-old brother.
And I was 25 at the time.
25 at the time?
And not married?
No.
Did they issue a big fine as well?
They did.
So it was $17 million in restitution, which is something it's really funny because when you look at the media headlines, they love to talk about this $36 million worth of fraud.
And that was not the case.
This was back in 08.
My father was in real estate.
They had all these loans.
But never one time at trial did the prosecutor show a single loan document.
And so our argument was, what is the actual loss amount?
And they could never verify what the loss amount was.
Yeah, was it just like the amount of loans he took out in collective?
Is that what they considered?
They love to do anything they can for the headlines.
So he had loans on homes and he flipped homes.
He was in the real estate market.
He had the largest asset management company.
And the government just tried to add up as much money as possible without taking into consideration what properties or artwork or furniture was held as collateral.
And even at trial, one of the government's own witnesses who was the vice president of a bank said, you know, back in 08 when the world was on fire, everyone was throwing their loans back at us.
And Mr. Christley came to us and said, let's try to make you as whole as possible.
That was the government's own witness.
And that right there is not conspiracy to defraud.
So then you went from sibling to parent overnight?
Yes.
What was that like?
It was a challenge because obviously a preteen girl and a teenage boy, I was their sister.
So it was hard for them to look at me and have that respect of a parent.
Like you're going to listen to what I say.
But I like to say we kind of grew up together.
They taught me more than anyone else could ever teach me.
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Like I got money, I spent it, wasn't really worried about saving.
And it was hard.
I was a single income household as a woman, lost a TV show, literally lost everything overnight.
So it was, it was a challenge.
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So you have to take care of these two young people, both minors.
Yes.
What did the judge have to do?
I mean, I'm sure you appealed to the judge about this, right?
We did.
So we asked for staggered.
We asked for my parents to be staggered, but the judge looked at us in the courtroom and said, she actually looked at my parents and said, you didn't care about your children when you were committing these crimes.
So why should I care about them now?
Yeah, that's dark.
Yeah, right.
So then they went to different prisons?
Yeah.
So my dad was in Pensacola, Florida, and my mother was in Lexington, Kentucky.
So 10 hours away from each other.
And they had only distant contact?
No, they never got to speak on the phone.
Really?
Yeah.
And two and a half years that they were gone, and they were together almost 30 years.
They're still together.
But they had never gone a day without speaking to each other.
And these were lower security prisons?
Yeah, so it was in camps.
Yes, thankfully.
They were in camps, but it was still, I have seen how broken our system is.
And thankfully, our new director of the Bureau of Prisons, Billy Marshall, is phenomenal.
And Josh Smith, they're amazing.
And they're going to change some things.
So for that, I'm grateful.
So then you had to raise your two siblings, and then how often were you able to visit Lexington and Pensacola?
So the first year they were gone, I think we went like 48 weekends out of the year.
Whoa.
Yeah.
So we would go to mom one weekend, dad the next.
That shows that you guys are like actually close family though.
Yes, yes.
So I mean, like there's a lot of like fake stuff in the world.
But I can tell you like a lot of child actors, if their parents went to prison, they wouldn't visit 48 times.
Yeah, exactly.
But in imagining you're like road tripping from Atlanta, right?
Yeah, well, so we're in Nashville now.
Oh, okay.
So we moved to Nashville 10 years ago.
So Lexington's not that bad.
No, Lexington was three and a half hours one way, so...
so we would get up and call it six seven hours seven hours yeah so when it would be when we would go to see mom we would get up 3 4 a.m and drive to see her that day and stay until 3 p.m and then drive home that night and then for dad we would drive 15 hours in one weekend and then the kids had to be up for school monday morning and you had to make sure that they were fed and fed civilized like therapy all of the things there were they were in therapy every single week that was one because of this yes because of this
am because I refuse to allow these children to be another statistic.
Whose initiative was it to visit 48 times?
Is that your initiative?
Yes, I think we all were just under the understanding that like this is what you do.
No, that's not normal.
Just so you know.
I hope your mom understands that.
Does she understand that?
I know a lot of people that have parents in prison or have been in prison.
That is very much not normal.
I think for me, the way that I grew up, my mother never missed a school drop-off or pickup or sporting event.
Even with all the celebrity.
No, she never.
Like her kids were her number one priority.
So if she could do that for me for 25 years of my life, even as an adult, she wouldn't miss a doctor's appointment.
So if my mother can show up for me like that, why can I not show up for her as her daughter like that?
Why did they loop your mom into this?
It's what the government loves to do.
You know, they go after the man and then if they, the male figure doesn't plead guilty, then they use their spouse or girlfriend as a pawn to get that plea.
Do they regret not going through the plea deal?
Not that they did it or didn't do it.
I just, I know so many people that decide to fight it and they get like 15 years in prison.
For my parents, they always said, we're not going to say we did something that we didn't do.
And that was their biggest.
It's a very rigged system.
It is.
I mean, what the department of justice has a 98% conviction rate.
And if you plea, you might, if they would have pled, they might not have gone to jail.
And maybe, you don't know.
Honestly, there was never that opportunity for us.
Even just a plea deal that they were kind of throwing out was still, I think, around five and 10 years.
So it was all about them having these TV stars.
I mean, even in their press conference, they said, if these reality TV people aren't above the law, neither are you.
So it was all about them getting this one big case so they can go off into private practice and make a name for themselves.
And so this was amazingly, the indictment came down under Trump's department of justice.
Yes.
And that's the thing that people don't realize is like, people love to say, oh, your president is the one who indicted them.
And I'm like, hold on.
That's not what happened.
All of this started 10 years ago, you know, this and even the prosecutors, yes.
And even the prosecutors were, the prosecutors were Democrats.
The judge was appointed by Obama.
Like this, just because a president comes into office doesn't mean everyone else that was placed before him goes.
Yes.
And so people don't realize that.
So you're visiting regularly and then Trump wins.
Yes.
Well, actually, so I'm visiting regularly and then I became very vocal just about the conditions of the prisons because they were very inhumane.
And when I did that, a very, you know, another conservative group reached out to me and asked me to speak at their conference.
And I spoke there and it kind of, that took off.
And a lot of other politicians like wanted to meet with me and hear my side of the story.
And then the president's team reached out and asked me to speak at the RNC.
So I spoke.
That's right.
I remember that.
Yeah.
So I spoke at the Republican National Convention and things just kept coming my way.
But at the same time, I also like to say, I forced myself into rooms I was never invited into.
And because I had one goal in mind and that was to get my parents home.
I had two minor children looking at me saying like, when are mom and dad coming home?
And when they realize how hard this is, like, do they get that?
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Oh, they do.
My, like my little sister, it was hard for her every time I would leave.
But then she would say, well, my sister's fighting for my parents.
She's at the White House or she's doing this or that.
So they, they do realize it took a lot.
I didn't have a single political connection two and a half years ago, like not a single one.
And somehow we made it to where we're at today.
And so then, so Trump gets sworn in.
Yes.
And walk us through these couple months up to the, was it a partner commutation?
It was a full, actually, so the story that people don't know was, I guess before, it was probably four to six months before he won the election.
I got invited to an event at Mar-a-Lago and this was when all of his stuff with Fulton County was going on at the same time as us.
And I went to take a picture with him and I just word vomited.
I was like, this is my one opportunity to tell him my story.
And I started talking to him and then secret service comes up and they're like, all right, time for you to go.
And he looks at them and goes, no, I'm speaking to her.
She's good.
And he allowed me to share my story with him.
And when I told him the amount of time they got, he was like, you're kidding me, right?
I was like, I wish I was.
He goes, that's absolutely insane.
He was like, let me get back in office and I promise you I'll look into it.
And then when he won, I was like, then at that point I was like, this man is busier than we like anyone in the world.
I was like, he's not going to remember the conversation we had.
So exactly.
But I was like, all right, now, now I'm on my tour to remind him of the conversation that we had.
And I went to every event I got invited to at the White House, became part of the Maha Moms, did everything.
And that's how the pardon.
And then Alice Johnson, obviously she's phenomenal.
And that's how the pardon happened.
But when the president called to let me know that he was giving my parents the pardon on the phone, he looked at Alice and he said, he's telling me my parents are getting their life back.
And then he told Alice, he was like, is this a commutation or a full pardon?
She was like, well, as of now it's a commutation.
He goes, nope, not today.
He goes, give these people a full unconditional pardon.
They need to get their lives back and not have anything holding them back.
And I was like, I was happy for a commutation, but still then the 17 million follows you.
Now with a full unconditional pardon, it all goes away.
There's no fine, right?
No.
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So the months prior to the pardon, you were working the circuit, hopeful.
Yes.
Walk us through that.
It's funny.
I mean, we just ran into Nancy Mace as we were walking up, and she hugged my mom.
She was like, I just have to tell you, your daughter took every single opportunity.
Anyone she came in contact with, she shared their story.
She shared your story, and if she saw someone that could help, she made a beeline for them.
And I have no shame in it, because when your family's on the line, and my dad's in his late 50s, like he would have been in his late 60s coming home, the best years of his life are gone.
So there was nothing that was going to hold me back.
I never thought I was too good to ask or beg for help.
And I mean, Carrie Lake, I FaceTimed her as soon as I got my dad, and she told my dad the same thing.
She was actually crying on the phone when she saw him, and she was like, your daughter did it.
Like, she went into rooms.
She spoke.
She told your story in a way that made people want to help her.
And so now everyone's free.
Everyone's free.
What are you going to do with your time?
Well, you know, it's funny.
You've got to find another project.
Right?
I've got to find another project.
I like to say, like, I didn't choose the world of politics, but it kind of chose me.
Uh-huh.
There's no going back.
There's no going back.
Once you're in it, you're in it, as you know.
But now my main focus was to help my parents.
But in the midst of helping them, I saw how many broken individuals there are in the system and how much injustice has been done.
So now I'm on my kind of tour to help others.
And if I can provide the gift for other families that people provided for me and that the president provided for me, then that's what I'm on my mission to do.
And so what about the prison system do you think people should know about that they don't?
I like to say if it can happen to us, it can happen to you.
I mean, it's a federal crime to ship an orchid without proper paperwork.
Like, you could literally go to prison for that.
So there are more federal— But it's not a crime to break into America.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you.
No, let's— Let's put the Chrisleys in prison.
But if you cross the southern border, you get benefits.
Oh, yeah.
In Nashville right now, our— Makes a lot of sense.
Yeah.
Our mayor actually turned off the license plate readers because he said that ICE was using it to detain illegals.
Why are you guys putting up with that?
It's—honestly, it is extremely difficult.
But we have a lot of transplants.
And Nashville, the city, is very blue.
So I have definitely fought against it.
And I'm going to continue to because at the end of the day, it's just wrong.
But when it comes to the prison system, I like to tell people, you know what?
You have a lot of conservatives, too.
Criminal justice reform is not a very conservative way of thinking.
But think of it as being your mother or your daughter or your child.
And there should never be a time to where a human being is sitting in a prison that is 110 degrees because there's no air conditioning.
I even had Tom Homan look at me and say, Savannah, you would be pissed if you saw the criteria for these ICE detention facilities and then saw the criteria for where your parents are at.
Of course.
He said— Illegal immigrants get way better treatment than our citizens.
Exactly.
So I think that's the hard part.
And just seeing that they're consuming food that says not for human consumption.
I like to say a judge sentences you to a time.
You've got to start an end date.
But with the conditions you're being subjected to, you're serving a life sentence when you leave.
And so now, like I said, with the director of the Bureau of Prisons, Billy Marshall, and deputy director Josh Smith, they have made it a commitment to actually go into every single one of these prisons.
And they're going to start shutting them down.
Or they're going to start making the necessary changes to give these people a second chance at life and
rehabilitate them and for people that don't care about prison reform and you think all right bad people go to prison well 95 of them are coming out one day so care about yourself enough i mean they're going to be your neighbors so care about yourself enough to make sure that these individuals get rehabilitated so the um this process has been unexpected yes and has has changed you what is the role of faith that it played in all oh i I've said when my parents left that first,
I think it was like a Wednesday.
And then we got a call that they could have visits that weekend.
And I remember being upstairs in my little sister's room, trying to unpack her clothes, get all of her stuff organized.
And I was like, I don't know what you're supposed to wear to a prison.
And then I literally broke down and just fell to the floor.
And I was like, I'm not my mother.
Like, I cannot do this.
Like, my mother's one of the strongest people I've ever come in contact with.
And I'm like, I can't do this.
Like, and by the grace of God, like every time I felt like I was going to break and that I couldn't do it, like God would intervene.
Something, there was a little glimmer of hope that would come in.
And there's, there's no other explanation other than God that got us through what we got through.
And so your siblings are doing fine?
Yes.
My, my little brother is 19th, University of Alabama and just made the dean's list.
Amazing.
Yes.
So I'm like, you know what?
I know I did something right.
And he is the greatest human being in the world.
He's my absolute best friend.
And so they're thriving.
I'm thriving.
I'm trying to, it's a weird place.
My parents have only been out for two weeks.
And so.
So thank you for coming to the event.
Yay.
It's, I am.
So you had not been able to get a meal with them for almost two years?
Two and a half years.
Two and a half years.
Yeah.
So like what was, what was, like, so they get out of, so they're two separate prisons.
Yes.
Did they both get released simultaneously?
So I, they did, but I had to fight with the prison to let my dad out because they wanted to try to pull some nonsense on me because it was past five o'clock.
We dealt with this with January 6th, guys.
Yes.
And I went outside, did a press conference in front of the prison and said, like, the president signed an order that said they must be released immediately.
And I looked at the head person at the prison.
I said, keep him past 11.59 p.m. and you'll be in prison next.
And he was like, I don't want any problems.
I don't want any problems.
I was like, then let him out.
And Billy Marshall got on the phone and made it happen literally within 30 minutes of the whole debacle occurring.
But when we left, it was funny.
My dad gets in the car and we actually FaceTime Margo and she's with the president and he like sees my dad.
He was like, well, you look good.
It was hilarious.
And then my dad was like, all right, find me a pizza hut.
So we left.
Our first meal was Pizza Hut.
Yes.
Yes.
Why?
I don't know, but it was Pizza Hut.
So, yeah.
They don't serve that in prison.
They do not.
No, unfortunately.
Well, it was Pensacola, so I don't know the options.
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So your mom got out the same day.
So you went to go get your mom first and then your dad?
No, so my brother Grayson went to get my mom.
So you guys split up?
Yeah, we split up.
He went to the house.
What was her first meal?
Waffle House?
Her first meal was Zaxby's.
Okay.
Yeah, you know?
Very southern.
Yeah, very southern.
Say it was, you're going to go to, what is it, cookout or something?
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
Hey, I think at that point, they were just happy to have like real food.
Yes.
People don't realize like the slop you have to eat in prison.
Like I said, the meat, the packaging on the meat says not for human consumption.
Really?
Yeah.
So is it for like dogs?
Yeah.
For dogs, animals, whatever.
Literally says not for humans.
This is not a violent prison.
No, it's not.
It's not.
This is for low security.
It is, but you do, and that's the biggest misconception too, is yes, it's a camp, but a lot of people work their way down.
So like there, my dad was in there with some of the biggest drug dealers and he, they were some of his best friends, you know, and that my dad said it was the, it was such a life-changing experience because he grew up in a world to where you were friends with people who were like you.
And then going to prison showed him that we really are all the same.
And he got to be friends with people he would have never have been friends with in the outside world.
Wow.
And so they're released for the last two weeks.
Yes.
Are they, is your dad gaining his weight back?
I mean, hey, honestly, he worked out nonstop when he was there.
No, but it's not a joke.
People like lose a lot of weight in prison.
They do.
Like when Bannon went to prison, he lost like 40 pounds.
Yes.
Like my dad just walked and worked out.
He refused to eat from the chow hall is what they call it.
So he would just eat the food from the commissary.
So he would literally just like live off of tuna.
Wow.
Yeah.
Okay.
So just like pure protein.
Yeah.
So I doubt he really wants to see a pack of tuna ever again.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so what are they going to do next?
Well, we've already started back filming.
So that's great.
It's kind of, it has to be a lot for them.
I cannot imagine being locked in somewhere for two and a half years and doing the same thing every single day and then getting out and the world being all over you and cameras in your face.
So I know it's overwhelming for them.
But like I said, God has provided and them coming out and having this TV show and starting their lives back.
I mean, it is the biggest blessing.
And I mean, boy, if Kamala Harris would have been president, I don't think you guys would be having this conversation right now.
On election night, I was watching it with my brother Grayson.
And when the president won, we were both sobbing because I knew in my heart, that was my only way out.
Like that was my only way out because we even filed an appeal and we won it in part when it came to my mother.
And so she had to be resentenced.
And we went back to her resentencing hearing and the judge gave her more time.
So she kept the seven years, but then gave her two more years of supervised release.
And which should have been, she should have had time served at that point.
And the judge looked at me, and this was after I spoke at the RNC.
She looked at me, and it's in the court transcripts, and she said, to the person who has these minor children in their custody, you need to be more concerned with their well-being than spreading false information to the public.
That's a federal judge.
A federal judge's name.
Eleanor Ross.
Yeah.
That doesn't sound like a name.
She actually ruled against.
That doesn't sound like a Trump appointee.
No, she, Obama appointee, and she actually ruled against the president when it came to mail-in ballots.
I just, I mean, like, the amount of judicial tyranny in this country right now is so dramatic.
Oh, well, we got copied on an email.
This was a few months ago, to where the prosecutors were actually speaking to the judge, and they didn't realize we got copied on it.
Yeah.
Which cannot happen.
But you know, what's incredible is like, you guys have a big platform, and even if you expose it, like nothing happened.
Yeah.
And that was the crazy part was we had audio recordings of government officials talking about wiping their government devices clean of anything that had to do with the Christley case.
They accused us of terrorism just so they could run a FinCEN report.
And then once they ran the FECEN report to obtain all the financial information, they destroyed the case number that they created.
What was the terrorism?
I mean, you guys don't seem that's it.
Thank you.
That's exactly what the president said on our call.
He was like, you don't look like terrorists to me.
Goodness.
Yeah, it's absolutely insane.
So when the president got shot and we weren't sure if he was dead or not, did it go through your head that your parents might have to serve their entire sentence?
At first, I was on a road trip.
I was driving down the road and I listened to Fox News all the time.
Like my Sirius XM is like the highway or Fox News.
It doesn't change.
And so when that happened, I just went numb.
And I genuinely love the president for the encounters that I've had with him because it's been very human to human encounters.
But then, yeah, I think when the dust settled, I thought to myself, like, again, that's my only way out.
Like the president is literally the only way out to make sure that my parents come home, that my dad is there for my wedding, that my parents are there for my kids.
Like he was the only way.
If it would have went the other way, I wouldn't be sitting here today and my mom wouldn't be here.
So you have lots of upcoming projects.
In closing, what's your message going to be to our young women here at the Young Women's Leadership Summit?
Gosh, I think for me, what I've learned, especially over the past few weeks, is there is power in being a female.
And there is power in using your voice.
And you don't have to have an Ivy League education to do it.
You have to stand firm in your beliefs, no matter who fights against you.
I lost hundreds of thousands of dollars when I came out for the president.
Hundreds of thousands of dollars.
I didn't know how I was going to pay my bills at one point, but I knew that I could no longer sell my soul to the devil.
I just couldn't do it anymore.
And when I got my parents out of prison, it was a very telling moment in the media and with other women, unfortunately.
I had women coming at me insinuating that I slept for a pardon.
And to me, I was like.
With Trump?
With Trump or anyone else that I guess could supply it.
And I was like, you've got to be out of your mind to insinuate this.
But the sad part was it was coming from women.
It wasn't coming from men.
So we as women can either build each other up or we can tear each other down.
And I think that's my biggest message is there's never a mission too big or too small.
And we as women, there is power in numbers.
And there is no one makes greater change than a pissed off mom, daughter, friend.
Like no one.
Savannah, thank you so much.
Thank you.
God bless you.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thanks so much for listening.
Everybody, email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
