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The Truth About the "Maryland Dad" Deportation
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Hey everybody, Ken of Charlie Kirk Show.
Did the Trump administration deport a Maryland citizen?
A dad?
We explain and tell you the truth of the media lie about this story.
Also, we sit with Brendan Carr about the fight for freedom of speech online and more.
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One of the many numerous positives of President Trump Assuming office is now we have control again of the FCC.
And the new chairman of the FCC is a friend of ours, Brendan Carr.
Brendan, welcome to the program.
Brendan, let's set the table.
Reintroduce the audience to what the FCC is and does.
Yeah, thanks so much.
Great to be with you again, Charlie.
So the FCC, probably the easiest way to think about it is we're sort of a mini Congress almost for tech and telecom issues.
So Section 230, which has been abused by big tech companies to censor is in the Communications Act.
So we have a role there.
We regulate media broadcasters.
So all those local broadcasters are licensed by the FCC to operate in the public interest.
But for the last decade or so, the FCC has walked away from enforcing that public interest standard.
We have a role to play on national security as well.
And also the airwaves.
So, you know, when you turn your smartphone on and you want it to work, you want it to be fast, well, that requires airwaves.
And we free up those airwaves and get it into consumers' hands.
And so there's a whole bunch of different roles that the FCC plays.
And we're moving on Trump time.
You know, President Trump came in and fundamentally reshaped the direction of D.C. I haven't seen it in a long time.
I've been here for many, many years.
People are energized.
They're excited.
And we're following Trump's lead here at the FCC.
That's wonderful.
So let's talk about your investigation into ABC and Disney.
Tell us about it.
Yeah. One of the very first things that President Trump did was he came in and said we are ending the federal government's promotion of DEI.
He also issued an executive order calling for agencies to look at private sector DEI practices that violate Federal law.
We've been doing both of those at the FCC.
Day one at the FCC, I issued an order that ended the FCC's own promotion of DEI.
We were spending at the FCC alone millions and millions of dollars promoting DEI.
We had DEI listed as our second highest strategic priority, promoting DEI ahead of Empowering consumers, ahead of global competitiveness, ahead of sort of operational excellence at the FCC.
No, promoting DEI was the FCC's second highest priority.
We've shut all that down.
One thing I'm doing now is I'm going through all these companies that the FCC regulates.
Disney owns ABC, which is a licensed broadcaster by the FCC.
And I got to tell you, what we're seeing there, Charlie, is unbelievable.
The initial indications are, and this comes from some reporting from Chris Rufo, from Robbie Starbuck, other reports, information from Disney itself, that literally they were dividing employees along race and gender lines, segregating them out, giving potentially different opportunities in the employment workspace.
You know, that's a violation of the FCC's own equal employment opportunity rules if the evidence end up supporting those original allegations.
And I can't think of a more serious potential violation of a broadcaster than engaging in, you know, race and gender based discrimination.
We'll see where it goes.
We're open minded.
But those early signs are are.
So tell us, Brendan, there's also evidence to show that YouTube is discriminating on religious channels as well.
This is totally unacceptable.
What's going on here?
Yeah, you know, when you step back, a lot of these technology companies have sort of understood what happened in November.
They've understood the new direction of the country under President Trump.
X obviously always stood in the breach for free speech.
Facebook Meta has come to the table recently.
You know, welcome.
You know, we hope that it sort of sticks long term.
But Google and YouTube in particular have a lot of work to do.
And one of the things that's concerning to me is there was A number of reports, the FCC got that YouTube TV, which is effectively a cable channel, though it's virtual, it's a cable channel, cable company, has not been carrying, and apparently potentially has this, you know, unspoken policy of not carrying, you know, religious oriented programming.
There was one particular channel in particular that we wrote them about.
We're going to see what their full response on that is, but that's very concerning if that ends up being the case.
Hopefully this dispute gets resolved favorably.
So, also there's a looming question the audience has about NPR and PBS and the ongoing doging and their dodging of certain information.
What should we know about these taxpayer-funded monstrosities of NPR and PBS?
Yeah, so NPR and PBS, their member stations are stations, radio and TV, again, that are licensed by the FCC.
So not only are they unique as compared to other speakers because they have this right to use the airwaves they're licensed for, but they're doubly benefited because they're considered non-commercial stations.
I mean, they can't run commercials and because of that, they get extra benefits again.
I've opened an investigation into NPR and PBS and their member stations to see whether, in fact, they've been running commercials or some suggestion that maybe they have been.
And so we're going to look at enforcement action there.
But more broadly, this ties into a bigger concern, which is why has Congress been forcing Americans across the country and going into their pocketbooks and making them subsidize NPR and PBS?
I don't think there's any good reason for members of Congress to compel people to do that.
If NPR and PBS have a particular bias or slant, great, have at it, but why don't you support yourself the way every other outlet that has a viewpoint does?
It wasn't that long ago, if you did a cross-section of NPR and PBS listeners, that you sort of got a cross-section of the American electorate.
And I think to some extent that makes sense if you're forcing everybody to support it.
But over the last couple of years, you know, the listenership, the viewership is just clustering, you know, along the northern sector of the Acela Corridor.
And yet everyone else around the country is having to pay for it.
So I don't think that's a great thing.
And there was just a hearing, obviously, in Congress a week or so ago where the CEOs testified.
And ultimately, I don't think they advanced their cause very well before Congress.
There was this piece of tape this morning, and I'm trying to find it, of a professor from University of San Diego or somewhere nearby.
And they asked her, they said, hey, how do we make our politics more progressive?
And she said, the number one thing we need to do is regulate social media.
The number one thing they want to do is prevent different voices from having a speech on social media.
Brendan, we see that in Germany.
They are raiding homes over what people are putting on social media in the United Kingdom as well.
What is your commitment to freedom of speech at the FCC to stand against these calls to prevent conservatives like myself and this audience to speak on social media?
Committed to making sure that we smash the censorship cartel.
In fact, I'm doing an event just tomorrow over at the Department of Justice with the new antitrust enforcer, Gail Slater, with the chairman of the Federal Trade Commission, Andrew Ferguson, and three of us are working together to make sure that we never go through what Americans live through, particularly the last four or five years, when this wave of censorship came across the country.
You had social media companies themselves, Facebook, censoring lawful political speech of Americans.
You had the Biden administration, of course, We've got to end that and make sure that we can never, ever go back to it.
The truth is, if you look at trust in national media right now, it's at an all-time low.
I mean, look, literally people have more faith in gas station sushi than they do the mainstream media, including ABC, CBS, and NBC.
That's why social media is so important.
That's why social media and Speech on the internet and podcasts are under attack because it lets people go around that traditional establishment media.
And everyone has realized, you know, the emperor has no clothes.
They've so consistently gotten so many important stories wrong and people only know about it because of free speech on the internet.
And so it's a threat to their business model.
It's a threat to their power.
And that's why we need to make sure that everyday people from the podcast to internet speech, to YouTube TV, have the ability to get a wide variety of viewpoints out there.
And look, it wasn't that long ago that this was happening.
There's like a progressive value, diversity of opinion.
I think, you know, you and I have talked about this.
I think we're, you know, the modern day op-ed actually launched on the pages of the New York Times of all places in 1970, because there was an editor there, a guy, progressive editor by the name of John Oakes.
He said back then, Diversity of opinion is the lifeblood of democracy.
The moment we insist everyone think the same way we do, our democratic way of life is in jeopardy.
Progressive New York Times editor in the lead up to that 1970 launch of the op-ed, and look where we are now.
We need to sort of re-embrace as a culture this idea of free speech, this idea of diversity of opinion, but there's a role for us at the FCC and across the government, and we're going to get it done.
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Well, it would help if we could regulate social media because one of the biggest offenders is DC and Congress have not been able to do one thing in regard to the rogue corporations in social media.
It's not going to get any better with Elon Musk in the administration.
Brendan, there is a big push to try and regulate the speech on social media.
The European Union right now has some of the most restrictive speech policies.
What are you doing at the FCC to allow free and open dialogue to continue and to resist these pushes?
Yeah, it's pretty wild to see the radical left complain that there wasn't enough censorship on social media.
You know, you got Hunter Biden laptop store, you got all sorts of COVID discussions that were completely shut down.
Again, I think with President Trump and the White House, we were exiting this era of massive censorship across the U.S. There's still work to do.
Us at the FCC, DOJ, across government, we're going to do it.
But your point, you know, there's a big concern globally as well.
We saw this with Brazil.
Last year, they effectively shut down They have this new law they passed called the DSA, the Digital Services Act, which effectively requires, and I would argue targets, U.S. technology companies and encourages them to engage in censorship conduct.
Vice President Vance went to Europe and was spot on.
He gave a speech saying, look, we're going to develop AI.
America is going to lead the world with gold standard AI.
AI. You can join us if you want.
You can benefit from it as well.
But you can't be imposing these ideological biases into AI through this DSA, through this regulation of technology companies, because there's a real fork in the road on AI.
You've got China, which is heading down their path.
They've got DeepSeek.
If you ask DeepSeek what happened at Tiananmen Square, they say nothing.
It was a great day.
If you ask them how the Uyghurs are doing, they'd say perfectly fine.
They're getting a great education in a camp-like environment.
So the world is going to split.
When it comes to AI, there's going to be the authoritarian, censored version that China's going to push.
There's going to be the gold standard that we lead the world on, and Europe is sort of at the crossroads.
They can join us, but no censorship.
But again, this idea that technology companies haven't been censoring over the last couple of years, that's not the reality I think anybody's been living in.
Well, and now they want to censor because the speech that is popular and that is viral is conservative in nature.
Now they want to censor what's on social media.
And remember, they were the ones that kicked President Trump off social media after January 6th.
After they kicked him off.
Spotify, please continue.
Yeah, I mean, just again, just look at Brazil.
Justice De Moraes issued this decision to shut down X last year.
He said expressly in his decision that he was acting to prevent what he described as anti-democratic acts.
And then they went on to define what is an anti-democratic act.
It was essentially going into a voting booth with information in your brain not approved by the incumbent political party.
That's an anti-democratic act.
And that's what we're seeing across the board is, to your point, people having new access to information to vote.
They're getting around old gatekeepers, and we're seeing a real effort to clamp down on availability of wide open political debate, political discourse, but we need it, right?
You know, free speech is democracy's check on authoritarianism, and we've got to continue to stand at the rampart to defend it.
So, Brendan, in closing, what are some of the other priorities that you guys are looking at the FCC?
Big fights.
AI is a big one.
Also, the idea of internet access, I would love to see a proliferation of the use of Starlink and to get away from old antiquated ways of broadband delivery of internet.
What else are you guys thinking about as top priorities of the FCC?
Yeah, you're right.
You know, one thing is we're moving away from weaponization.
The Biden years, … really weaponized all of our country's communications laws.
If your last name was Soros, well, you got a sweetheart deal on a streamlined basis.
If your last name was Musk, well, Starlink lost millions and millions of dollars' worth of contracts.
What we've committed to now is everyone's getting a fair shake from this FCC.
Now, Democrats don't like that.
They claim that I'm discriminating against their sacred cows, but I would simply say this.
The entities that benefited from the two-tier system of justice that prevailed during the Biden years are now getting even-handed treatment from me, and that feels like discrimination to them because they were used to benefiting from weaponization, but we're running a very You know, aggressive agenda.
We're following President Trump's lead.
To your point, we're going to be boosting Starlink.
We're going to be boosting competitors even to Starlink to get more connectivity out there.
We're trying to push more airwaves out there.
You know, frankly, the Biden administration kind of walked us into a cul-de-sac where China now has a massive lead on us on spectrum, which is needed for next generation connectivity.
We've got to close that gap on them.
But we're running an aggressive agenda.
We're bringing people back into the building at the FCC.
I think just yesterday I pulled the numbers and we We're at four times the number of people are in the building now than we were on the average day last year.
So we're doing a lot right now and having fun too, which is important.
Brendan, we support you 100%.
There's a lot to go after.
In fact, we've talked about on the show how there's this boycott network that is going after shows like this, this Rico type of activity that are trying to restrict over-the-top providers.
And I know you guys at the FCC have eyes on all that to restore fairness and free speech.
Thank you.
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Very smart man joins us next and I thoroughly enjoyed the research that he did regarding this lie that the media is peddling.
It's Will Chamberlain, senior counsel at the Article 3 Project.
Will, great to see you.
Will, if you were just to watch the mainstream media, let me read the headline from The Atlantic.
Quote, But claims that courts are powerless to order his return.
On campus yesterday, a young man shows up to the microphone screaming, saying, Charlie, they deported a U.S. citizen.
I said, no, they did not.
Will, what are the facts here?
You did all the research.
You looked through court documents.
What is the truth?
Right. Well, the there is administrative error, but they deported an El Salvadorian citizen back to El Salvador.
Who crossed illegally in 2012, was detained in 2019, and then tried to claim asylum.
He never had asylum, so his protected status, quote unquote, was not that he couldn't be removed from the country.
He could.
He was a removable alien.
The only protection he had was being removed to El Salvador in particular.
So, there was this underlying flaw, but, you know, I mean, even so, the idea that there's some profound injustice here, that's just wrong.
So help me understand, though, the way that the media is framing it.
Here's this poor father, you know, he never should have brought up.
What does administrative error mean?
There is also evidence that he was part of MS-13.
According to Stephen Miller, there was some MS-13 ties.
So just, you know, look, when you're running a big operation, errors happen.
Let's just be honest.
What does administrative error mean?
Well, it just means that they should have gone through a process to try and get His, this withholding of removal revoked, you know, the, the reason this withholding of removal was granted is because he came up with this sob story in 2019, where he said, if you send me back to El Salvador, I am likely to be persecuted, maybe even murdered by the 18th street gang, which is with MS-13, one of the, or was rather one of the big gangs in El Salvador.
But in the interim, Nayib Bukele has become the president of El Salvador and has effectively punished and has effectively done something to actually, you know, deal with these gangs.
And as a result, El Salvador is a safe country now.
And the underlying reason why he couldn't be deported there is gone.
So the Trump administration could have simply gone to court, got his withholding of removal revoked, and had him sent back.
So even though they didn't do that, and therefore there's this administrative error, they should have waited to remove him.
The end result would have ultimately been the same.
He'd have ended up back in El Salvador.
That's right.
And so thank you for that explanation.
Let's go to Stephen Miller also talking about this.
And it's very important.
And look, you've got to be so meticulous here.
The Trump administration understands that.
But it's not as if they scooped up an American citizen or a green card holder.
The media keeps on calling him a Maryland dad.
According to the court documents, he has MS-13 ties and he Applied for asylum, testifying that he fears returning to El Salvador because the 18th Street gang was targeting him and threatening him with death because of his family's business.
And also has ties to human trafficking.
Let's play Cut 212.
Jesse, you and I have never received in our lives as much positive press as this MS-13 gang member has received.
We couldn't get headlines like that if our lives depended on it.
Fact one, what you do with illegal aliens, you deport them.
Fact two, he's an MS-13.
What do you do with illegal aliens who are also in a transnational terrorist organization?
You deport them more quickly.
Oh, and on top of that, he's implicated in human trafficking.
Deport, deport, deport.
This is who they're going to bat for.
What are we supposed to do?
Buy the guy a house?
Get him some free health care?
Maybe let him run for Congress?
So, Will, all kidding aside here, the mass deportation plan is lawful.
It might not be something that the media likes.
What is your take on the deportations and the media's coverage of it and the essence?
And of course, I think the Trump administration gets a little bit of a cautionary hay.
You have to make sure every administrative detail is followed because, let's just be honest, if they actually would have put an American citizen in an El Salvadorian jail, Then we're in a different circumstance.
That is not even remotely close to what's going on here.
Will. The reason we have mass deportations is because we had a mass invasion facilitated by Joe Biden.
They didn't vet every one of these migrants individually to ensure they could get into the country.
On the contrary, they let them in en masse and they did so intentionally.
You have to give the Trump administration a little grace in order to solve this problem.
There are probably going to be moments where they are over-inclusive.
And I think it's important for us as a conservative movement to not just, you know, go hit the fainting couch the moment there's a report in The Atlantic that something went wrong.
I mean, here, you know, the Trump administration confessed error in court.
Like the ICE filings clearly, the filings in court clearly say, yeah, this guy did have a withholding of removal to El Salvador.
He shouldn't have been removed or mistake.
But it's important.
They classified it as an administrative error rather than some profound injustice, and they're right, because if they had gone through the normal process, this guy was going to get removed back to El Salvador.
Okay, so more broadly, if you were to now give political advice, or just to say broad strategic advice, because you think about these things rather deeply, Will, of where the Trump administration is proceeding and how they are executing on mass deportations and the border, what would you say?
And also, talk about how we actually have a border again.
Well, I mean, first off, the Trump administration deserves enormous credit for reducing illegal crossings by 95% year over year.
I mean, we take it for granted.
It's an enormous accomplishment.
They did it in two months.
Credit to them.
You know, so we'll start there.
In terms of executing on this deportation, I mean, I think it's a good check to remember that they do need to cross every T and dot every I. Um, and that the media is going to come after them hard.
And so they need to make, especially make sure that no American citizens get caught up in this.
But failing that, I think they do need to keep going forward.
I think there's a really profound impact here of, you know, deportations in a wide variety of places, because what you'll start to see is self-deportation.
You know, think about there was that student, I think at Cornell, Um, who was one of the people who was spouting all this anti-semitic stuff and involved in all these encampments and he posted on Twitter that he was self-deporting because he was afraid he was going to be detained and removed.
Perfect. Great.
Go on.
And I just have to laugh because that's like the one thing Mitt Romney was right about that he was scolded terribly for.
Do you remember when he was running for president in 2011, 2012 and Mitt Romney in his typical goofy technocratic way?
Well, if we secure the border, then people will self-deport and he was Ridiculed!
People would say, people would never voluntarily leave the country.
No, self-deportation actually is part of the strategy.
And by the way, just so we are clear, the Cornell Fordham student who sued the Trump administration, just self-deported.
Mamumodo Pal.
Just turned himself in and just, he's gone.
His name's literally Mamumodo.
And he's gone.
And so, self-deportation is a primary and important ingredient.
Towards the securing of our nation.
And I want to reinforce something you said, Will, which I hope our audience internalizes.
The closure of the southern border is one of the quickest public policy accomplishments and achievements of the last era since World War II.
We have not seen a public crisis go from the Richter scale of 10 out of 10 to basically a non-issue.
In a hundred days or less in my lifetime.
Think about all the problems that we've dealt with that were crises.
COVID, lockdowns, financial crisis, Iraq war, terrorism, 9-11.
We have never seen a crisis since I have been born go from crisis to non-issue so quickly.
Am I right in saying that Will?
You're absolutely right.
And you know, sometimes this is, I would say this to, there are probably people in your audience who are like, well, why isn't the administration doing this?
Or feeling like, oh, you know, they could be doing more, they could be more conservative.
I mean, trust me, as somebody who's been around Republican politics, I'm 39 now, I've never seen anything like this.
And don't take it for granted, because the next time, next Republican president, or, you know, in 10 or 15 years, you might be complaining that they're not doing anything at all.
It's a remarkable accomplishment.
And it comes from the fact that they realize that You know, think about where they were sending migrants back on military planes.
Think about the video hits they're doing where they have Kirstie Noem going down to El Salvador.
These things are a deterrent.
They are a demonstration that if you come here illegally and you don't leave on your own accord, we aren't going to be nice about it.
And that's what people need.
That leads people to think, well, you know, maybe I should just go home on my own and just get on a plane like a normal human being rather than be deported in handcuffs on a military plane.
That's right.
And Also, just so we are clear, I want every administrative detail to be followed, but what a signal that sends to gang members right now, and they're saying, oh my goodness, if I even might be remotely associated with MS-13 and I step foot in the United States, I might end up in an El Salvadorian prison.
How's that for the neoconservative's favorite word, deterrence, Will?
Yeah, that's exactly what we need.
I mean, really, the Neoconservatives were always so reluctant to apply that logic at home.
We need to actually deter it.
Mitt Romney had this soft talk about self-deportation, but Trump is actually demonstrating how you get it done.
You make clear that the border is secure, that you're going to get deported, and that if you get deported by ICE, it won't be fun.
There's evidence that now the cartels are sending their fentanyl to Europe because business is so bad right now in the interior of the United States.
Trump's war on fentanyl is off to a strong start.
I hope everyone understands.
Look at the results here, not the noise.
What President Trump is doing is the hard but necessary work to secure a nation.
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President Trump to freeze all funding to Planned Parenthood.
That's right.
All funding to Planned Parenthood is now frozen.
That is a report by the Office of Management of Budget.
The abortionists are going to sue in court.
This is going to get all tied up.
But President Trump is acting with clarity and boldness and he deserves our credit and our appreciation and our praise and our gratitude that we are going to cut and freeze Planned Parenthood funding.
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Will, I'm going to play this trailer here.
Here's what I know.
This is a UK Not documentary, but a UK film.
It's going viral and being used by even the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, saying this should be shown in every school.
It's called Adolescence.
Let's play Cut 273, which is the trailer of this new phenomenon.
Play Cut 273.
Police! Get down on the floor!
What's going on?
I've got children!
I haven't done anything!
I haven't done anything!
You've got the wrong house, I'm telling you!
You're making a big mistake!
What are you doing?
What are you looking for?
Police! That's my phone!
Show me your hands!
Get your hands in there!
Hey! Amy's daughter's in here!
What are you doing?
My name is D.I. Baskin.
I have a warrant to search your premises, sir.
Where's your son?
Where's your son?
He's in his bedroom!
What do you need me for?
Where is he?
Mum! Hey, he's only a kid, bitch!
He's the back of our house.
OK. Hey!
Jamie Miller.
What's going on?
The time is 6.15am, and I'm arresting you on suspicion of murder.
What do you mean murder?
You don't have to say anything.
Mr. Miller!
Mr. Miller!
I will arrest you for obstruction.
Please stop.
Please. What do you need me for?
I'm arresting you on suspicion of murder.
Okay, so I'm very confused watching that.
Will, we only have three minutes.
Explain what is going on.
My understanding is that they've created a fictional series where, you know, it's a young white boy who at the age 13 has somehow fallen into, in seldom, a bizarre theory given that, you know, I don't think we'd ever call a 13-year-old involuntarily celibate. That's a bizarre claim to make about him.
but also that he's responsible for killing a young black boy And that somehow this is now a model for what British schools should be teaching their children, that they should be making young white males in particular feel guilt implicitly on, you know, and that they, you know, are secretly monsters that could potentially go out and murder their classmates of a different race or something.
It's a bizarre show.
And honestly, like, There's evidence that this is just a straight-up inversion of some of the very serious crimes that have been committed in Britain.
Notably, there's this kid Axel Rudakubana who murdered a slew of people in Southport.
And there's other instances like this where you actually do have a serious spree of knife crime committed by sometimes young black males.
So the idea that you would suddenly turn this around and make it about white males is just...
I mean, I don't have a better phrase for it than blood libel.
It is pure propaganda.
It is blood libel.
So the idea is that a white kid gets consumed by far-right content online, like the Charlie Kirk show, so he stabbed a girl to death.
And this shows the crisis of radical content online that Britain must stop.
It proves that we need more censorship, when in reality knife crime in Britain is almost entirely by non-white, mostly Muslim immigrant populations.
Just the truth.
It's not white native Britain 13-year-olds that are going and stabbing up people in their local school.
And by the way, the actual headlines when this happened was the reality were immigrants that were doing this.
And now the idea of adolescence is how the manosphere is propagandizing young men to become murderous to their classmates.
This is pure anti-male propaganda.
20 seconds, Will.
Yeah, they've turned a fantasy into something they believe their young white males need to be lectured about.
It's offensive, and I think it'll ultimately be counterproductive because I think that it will breed a lot of resentment towards the establishment from young white males and turn them to the right.
Will, thank you so much.
Counselor for the Article 3 Project.
Counsel, thank you very much.
You're welcome.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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