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Ask Charlie Anything 198: Calling the Cops? Profiting Off Springfield? Coaching Trump?

While Charlie's voice recuperates, Andrew and Blake field questions from Charlie Kirk Exclusive subscribers, including:   -Are red-state governors and mayors getting rich by turning a blind eye to a flood of illegal immigration from the Third World? -What should you do if someone calls the cops while you're doing door-to-door canvassing? -Is there any way to coach Trump to make him upset swing voters less?Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm joined by Blake Neff, one of our other producers.
Blake.
Welcome to the show.
We're going to answer all the questions, Andrew.
This is the real way to get answers on this show.
You have to ask the producers.
It's true.
I mean, we know all of his secrets.
Yeah.
Without Charlie in the way, we can actually just sort of get straight to the meat of it.
And we have our first question from Caleb and Michelle.
Please unmute yourself, Caleb and Michelle.
Let us have it.
Yeah.
Hey, thanks, guys.
And speaking of, we just got the T-shirt in the mail.
Unmute yourself.
I'm super excited.
My question is, do we know if the city officials or the governors of these states that are housing the immigrants, if they're getting federal kickbacks or illegal payoffs to turn a blind eye to the whole situation and the activity that they're getting through the, you know, temporary protective status immigrants, is this worth an investigation or a FOIA request?
Because it seems like they're intentionally not doing stuff to, like, enforce laws and protect their own citizens.
Yeah, I can take a shot at that.
So I was, there was a great article just the other day in, I think it's called, in the Jewish Journal, where a reporter dug deep into the situation in Springfield.
And this is not one you can necessarily generalize to everywhere else, but it's very detailed on that one.
And what this article was about, let me actually search it quick so I can give people the title.
Yes, it was the Jewish Journal.
It was an article by Azra Nomani, and it talks about exclusive feds and state AG investigate an alleged human trafficking empire run in Springfield, Ohio by King George.
Most of the article is about a private businessman in the city who's really gotten very rich off of Haitian labor trafficking and that's a big reason so many
have ended up in Springfield They were literally driving vans down to Florida picking
them up bringing them to Springfield having them live in these roach
infested low-quality houses and then you know basically renting them out for labor and it's a
big racket and an interesting aspect of this is that the mayor of
Springfield Rob Rue It doesn't so like overtly say it but
Rob Rue he is owner of a lot of rental properties in the city of Springfield under I think it's a
Littleton property management a name like that and And they've talked about how the cost of housing in Springfield has exploded due to all these migrants.
There's a big influx of new people.
And he's definitely benefited from it.
So he has a financial stake in what has been going on.
That's not the same as getting an illegal kickback, but it's a good example of how people who are in charge of these cities often do have an interest in it continuing.
And so if they're defending it, it's not necessarily just a fully honest defense of what is happening in the city.
And this sort of thing is probably going on all over the place.
One of the downsides of the modern internet age is All news is national.
Local news is very decayed.
We don't have nearly as many local newspapers, local investigative reporters, local news outlets.
And so there's stuff like this probably going around all over the place, and it's not necessarily hard to find.
There's just not a ton of people looking for it.
And so if you're interested in doing that for your local town, there's often a good niche to fill there.
If you're willing to go to the city council meetings, look who owns what, and just ask people questions, you can discover a lot of really interesting things.
And that's just the example I know of from Springfield.
But there's likely stuff going on in other cities.
There's probably a lot more of these cushy economic arrangements as opposed to outright bribery, but that might be happening as well because without much local news, there's not a lot of people who are going to catch it.
Yeah, my perspective is the same on this.
Now, we played in that last segment, Caleb, the fact that, you know, JD is still going to call these illegal immigrants because We are not following our immigration laws the way that we should be.
And they're just waving a magic wand and basically saying, you know, to 5% of the Haitian population, you are now legally here in the United States.
But what we've seen from some reporters that have gone into the field here in Springfield is that they're using this as a bit essentially slave labor.
And the political left in this country has a long history of being Specifically because of the wage implications, because of the labor implications, and how this drives down wages for citizens of the United States.
Now they've completely departed from that worldview.
To Blake's point, a lot of this you just have to look at local incentives.
The people that run towns like Springfield tend to be the more wealthy among them, the business owners.
They sit on the boards, they're on city councils.
And they have financial incentives because a lot of towns like Springfield are slowly losing population before this massive influx, right?
So that has effects on tax, the tax base of a local town.
So if you're on the city council and you're looking at paying local bills within the town, you're looking at how can you get growth?
How can you get this or that?
So maybe there was sort of a backroom handshake deal saying, yeah, sure, we'll send them here.
We'll take them.
We've got these factories.
that have been telling me they need more labor.
So we'll put them to work there.
And we know these guys that shuffle around immigrant workers
on these vans and we'll get you guys all staffed up and you won't have to pay nearly as much.
Profits will be up, wages will be down.
It's sure we screw the local population and the citizens of this town.
But in the end, it's a win because we have more taxes.
So some of this stuff is really just basic incentive structure, financial structure,
and local towns are obsessed about their tax base.
I can tell you this because my dad, after he sort of retired his corporate law job, he ended up going and kind of volunteering at the local level at a local county in Nevada.
And it's all about tax bases.
And one of the arguments he encounters all the time is these immigrants are willing to do the jobs that Americans won't do.
That's the common and it's in by the way, I think that's wrong.
I think it's a misperception.
First of all, But it's something that is shared by both sides.
This is a very conservative town.
He's sort of volunteering his legal services too.
And it doesn't matter that the police department has, you know, this massive increase in calls about anything from domestic violence to shoplifting to criminal activities, more serious drugs.
That is all true.
That comes with the package.
They're just looking at it strictly in terms of financial incentives and tax basis and labor.
because again, the people running it tend to own the businesses.
They own the properties that get rented.
They have that financial stake in it.
So it's very corrupt in a sense, but it's kind of more basic than I think
we're tempted to think about the problem.
Like we want to see corruption here and people go to jail for this, but a lot of it is just basic rudimentary incentives.
And I know that's frustrating on some level.
And so what we need to do, and Blake, I think you would agree about this,
is re-educate the population on why this is so destructive, why this hurts the fabric of the American society,
why it's a breakdown in the civil contract that we should have with our citizens and our population,
and then bringing awareness to it.
And I think that's the genius of what Springfield has done, is it's shown the core of our heartland getting corroded from within, and the American people getting screwed in the process.
So, thanks for your question, Caleb.
Hopefully that answers what you were looking for.
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Peyton, you are next.
Please unmute yourself.
Okay, so I got a question mostly about canvassing.
It's not necessarily with Turning Point Action, but it's with, in this case, Susan B. Anthony, Pro-Life America.
I was going door-to-door over the Labor Day weekend a couple of weeks ago advocating for the pro-life issue, and especially against Alyssa Slotkin and Kamala Harris.
We went door to door, had no problems.
It was very swingy where you had a bunch of liberals and conservatives each, where we sort of talked to them
about the pro-life issue.
Everything went well until the final day where I had an individual who threatened
to call the police on me and took a picture of me.
And obviously I wasn't breaking any laws because there wasn't any sign that said no trespassing,
but I was frozen in shock, not knowing what I was supposed to be doing
and how I should have responded.
So in the event that I come and receive that sort of response again, which I may be receiving that response again in the future with more canvassing that I'm doing before the election, how should I respond to people like that?
Yeah, so this is an interesting, there's a couple different aspects to this, Peyton.
One is, I'm curious, you know, how you're getting assigned the doors that you're going to be knocked on, or are they just sending you to a neighborhood and saying knock on all of the doors?
How do they send you out?
So they give us a walkbook list that has certain houses that are listed on there.
It's not every house that we go to.
There may be a long line of houses in a row, but they're mostly just low propensity voters that we see, because most of the people that I've had to go knock on the doors are either families with like five or six kids, or they may not have the time to go vote, because obviously they have to go work and they have to take care of their family.
Or there are elderly people who obviously would not as easily be able to get to the polls.
So, but are they sending you to what you think are conservative or Republican doors?
Oh no, so they tell us on the voter form who they are, a little bit about them before.
So it doesn't necessarily shape your response, but you just get an idea of like the demographic of the person, their age, their voter registration, stuff like that.
Yeah, but are they sending you to mostly conservative stores or is it mostly liberal stores or independent?
It's more conservative, but I would say there's probably about a third of those voters are swing voters slash liberals that are a little bit more sway.
Yeah, okay.
So here's what I'll tell you.
You know, so we have a different philosophy at Turning Point Action.
Our universe that we're trying to bring out are low-propensity, conservative-leaning voters, right?
And so that's our philosophy, first of all, because our data shows that a swing voter might take as many as 20 interactions before we can get that person out to the poll for Donald Trump or anybody else down the ballot, right?
That's a ton of interactions.
It's not a good use of resources, especially Because the electorate has shifted.
Donald Trump is now up 14, 11 points, 18 points, depending on the poll, with low propensity voters, right?
These are voters that have not come out in the last couple presidential cycles or last couple, if you count the midterms as well, we usually grade it on like a 1 out of 4 voter, 2 out of 4, 3 out of 4, 4 out of 4, right?
So our data shows us that somebody that is conservative leaning might take as little as like one, two to five interactions.
So that's a first thing that I observe when I'm hearing your story is that hitting somebody that's already ideologically aligned, but maybe is not an active voter is a much better use of resources.
So that's some feedback that you could give to the people that you're working with.
I would also say, you know, on that same line of reasoning, You know, when you encounter somebody that really doesn't want to talk to you, just from a pure use of your time, it's totally fine to say, you know, totally fine.
We'll, you know, that's fine.
We don't need to talk and appreciate, you know, you answering the door.
Have a nice day.
Just let it go.
Move on.
because there are so many interactions that are worth having.
So when you interact with somebody that is a completely closed door,
first of all, I'd say that's a problem on the data side.
And, you know.
We could talk about different data sources.
I'm not going to name names here.
Some of them are not good.
Some of them are built on faulty data that's been accumulating over years
and people move and people change their position.
And it's just not good.
And then there's data sources that are much better and you're gonna have a much higher success rate
when you knock on those doors.
So I would just say not worth your time moving on.
You gotta think about it in terms of ROI.
You're not doing anything illegal.
Get out of there safely, get out of there calmly and live to fight another day and at another door.
That's the advice I would give you.
So thank you for your work, Peyton.
God bless you doing the Lord's work.
It's an uphill battle with some doors, but hopefully there's a lot of doors that are worth knocking on.
Next question from Kimberly.
Kimberly, unmute yourself.
Hey guys, how's it going?
Going great.
It's going great.
Thanks, Kim.
Good, thanks for being here.
Yeah, so my question was, you know, I, the more and more I'm canvassing because I'm working for you guys, as well as just some middle-of-the-road friends, keep asking, you know, what could be done about Trump's, how he's speaking to people, you know, they really think he would do better Is speaking to people is better and like not putting people down and just name calling as well as like not arguing with them like just speaking more matter of fact like I don't know what you guys think could be done about that or if he would take some coaching from like you or Blake or Charlie or like Tony Robbins.
Thanks for the question, Kimberly, and thanks for doing work with us.
I was talking with Charlie about this just the other day, and this might be the disappointing answer, but the truth is with Trump, it's kind of just not going to happen.
Trump is kind of a force of nature.
is a very, very strong personality. He does things his way.
He's pretty much always done them that way. Sometimes it's amazingly good and he does
and says things that are so memorable, totally upset the political balance and produce long-term
gain. And sometimes he's logging in to Truth Social to say, I hate Taylor Swift.
You just get the good and the bad.
And I heard someone ask Charlie a very similar question along those lines.
It was like, can you get Trump to do or say this?
And he just said, honestly, he says, no, don't ask me to get Trump to do things because you can't make Trump do things.
He does what he does.
Now, that doesn't mean we're going to lose.
It just means this is a reality that we work around.
We take the good with the bad, with Trump, and we do what we can to give him the best support possible to win.
And that's just sort of the honest answer about it, but he is a person who's very confident in his methods.
Yeah, and I'd add this, Kimberly, you know, I forget who said this originally, but I still think it holds.
When you're talking to your friends, tell them two things.
Don't pay attention so much to what Trump says.
Pay attention to what he does.
Right, and what he does in his policy platform and what he accomplished in his first term, blue collar boom, no new wars, closing the border, really protecting pro-life groups, March for Life, the Supreme Court, all of these things are so much more important than maybe an errant true social or tweet, right?
So there's that.
The I hate Taylor Swift will live in infamy, I'm sure.
But what he does is what is most important.
Second thing is, you know, and I've heard Charlie say this actually said this at the DNC when he somebody came up and spoke with him.
He says it's a chess move for the type of future you want, right?
And so you have to some somehow sort of pull yourself back and look at the equation rationally and encourage your
friends to do that and say, do you care about the economy? Do you care about the border?
Do you care about the rule of law? Do you care about getting rid of DEI? Do you care
about supporting the men and women in uniform and putting merit back at the top of the
priorities list and not some DEI racial division, racial politics? So all of these things are so
critical and it is a chess move and people need to be reminded, Hey, take your emotions out
of it and figure out the kind of country you want to live in.
And at that point, Trump is the obvious choice.
So thanks so much, Kimberly.
We're going to get to the next question here.
Awesome.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you for being a member, Kimberly.
Gina, Gina, you're next.
Please unmute yourself.
Hey, thanks guys.
My best wishes to Charlie.
Hope he starts feeling better quickly.
Same.
Thank you.
There were a lot of comments by a lot of folks when Trump survived the first assassination attempt that were focused on God's hand of protection being on him.
But yesterday, many even conservative What I consider to be spiritual leaders in the media focus, we're calling his survival of the second attempt, luck.
What have you noticed about the comparison of the two different attempts as it relates to faith?
Have you noticed a big difference?
Tell me your thoughts on that.
Yeah, Blake, I'll start here and love your thoughts on the other end.
So I think both of them are miracles to be perfectly clear.
The first one just, Just by visuals, Gina, was, you know, the guy got the shot off and it nicked him and missed him by two centimeters from absolutely changing the trajectory of our country.
So there was something miraculous about that, just visually, just the context of what happened.
What we refer to as luck is when we say the Secret Service got lucky, right?
They were lucky to see this guy.
In the bushes, saw the muzzle of the gun poking through the bushes.
And we shouldn't be relying on one of the Secret Service agents spotting somebody in the bushes.
There should have been a perimeter established around him.
Now, but that was still God's hand.
I totally believe that and I agree with you that that was God's hand protecting Donald Trump from something terrible happening.
But from a strategic or a tactical standpoint, eagle eye secret service agent
to spot somebody in the bushes.
There should have been a perimeter that protected him.
They knew the vulnerabilities.
Whistleblowers are coming out to Josh Hawley saying, they know that golf course very well.
They know exactly where the soft spots are and they post agents up on those soft spots.
Why did that not happen?
Why are we relying on, you know, essentially getting lucky?
But yeah, God's hand as well.
So I think it's saying the same thing.
I think it's just coming out of a frustration that we're dealing with this yet again, right?
Where we hadn't dealt with this since Reagan, essentially.
And now all of a sudden he's within the course of, you know, two months, we've had two attempts at his life.
And so that's my take on it.
But yes, certainly the hand of God.
God has a massive role here and I think is the truth underlying it all.
But Blake, your take?
I don't have too much to add.
I guess I wouldn't attribute too much to... I don't want to just say God's hand is protecting him because that can often be an excuse to not act.
If you've decided that God's hand is just going to win us this election and keep Trump alive, well...
That's not doing the work.
That's not doing what our obligation is morally to get the things that we know need to be done.
And we have a moral duty to this country.
We have a moral duty to our fellow citizens to do everything possible to salvage this country.
And if there's going to be some miraculous stuff along the way, that's great, but we can't count on that.
We can never assume those things.
Our job is to do the work and hope.
Yeah, there's actually a good one-liner.
I stole it from some movie.
I can't even remember it, though.
Two farmers prayed for rain.
One tilled his field.
Who do you think God could bless?
To underscore Blake's point, you gotta do the work in order to sometimes receive the blessing, and then sometimes God comes and does miraculous things that bails us all out, and I think that's what Butler was, and perhaps that's what Palm Beach was, but only God knows.
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Next question, Zane.
Zane, I believe you are on the line.
Unmute yourself, please.
Yes.
Can you hear me?
Yes.
Okay, good.
How are you all doing today?
Doing great.
Thank you, Zane.
How are you?
Good.
And my question is, I live in Virginia, and is there like any way I could do door knocking in Virginia?
Yeah, absolutely.
So what I would recommend, we don't have, uh, Virginia is not one of our target states of turning point action, right?
Uh, but that doesn't mean you can't get involved.
The best way is probably through your local GOP.
So I would contact whatever county it is that you live in, contact your local GOP office and find out about volunteer opportunities.
I guarantee a lot of them are doing door knockings.
They have their walkbooks.
You can also use Turning Point Action, the app, So if you just download the Turning Point Action app, we have the whole, all of the data for the entire United States, even though we don't have full-time staff in Virginia, it does have the data in Virginia.
So you, it'll give you people that you could call, you can write postcards to, and even go knock their doors as well.
So in our Good morning, guys.
getting low propensity conservatives.
So you would be probably talking to like-minded people that just for whatever reason haven't come out
and you would be texting, calling, sending postcards to them.
So that's a great place to start, but your local GOP is definitely doing walks,
walkbooks and canvassing.
Okay, thank you.
Absolutely.
Next question from Brandon.
Brandon, please unmute yourself.
Good morning, guys.
Can you hear me?
Yes, absolutely.
Yes, I was just wondering, I'd recently started going to this church
and I saw that they had this LGBTQ parents meeting.
I'm not really sure what it's about.
I think it's like a support type thing.
And I was just wondering if you guys had any advice on, like, how to talk to the pastors about that, or if there's anything I can do to kind of just get them to be more biblical about things.
Is this a church you attend?
Yes, yes.
So it's a support group for parents of kids who would be LGBT, that's what it is?
Or the parents themselves are?
I think it's more of the parents of the children.
I don't really see a lot of children at this church specifically.
Yeah.
You might have more advice on this one, Andrew, because I'd assume this is probably a Protestant church.
Yeah, sounds... Is this an evangelical Protestant church, Brandon?
It's a Lutheran church.
Which opens it up to a whole spectrum of possibilities.
But yeah, listen, I don't necessarily, on its face, I don't necessarily think they're doing something unbiblical,
right?
Because even if they believe that marriage is between man and a woman,
and that God designed men for women, and they're not supportive of, you know,
without knowing more about the theology of your church, it's hard to say.
day.
But a lot of parents that, you know, by no fault of their own, they're raising kids that end up telling them that they are now gay or whatever.
They need support.
They need to understand how best to deal with it, how to love them,
maybe love them back to a place of biblical truth, what that means for their family,
and just not feel alone in that.
So you'd have to tell me more about their theology to know if they're being somehow wayward in their theology.
But at this point, I don't have enough to go on.
So I would say, maybe don't judge, maybe ask more questions and get to the bottom
of what their motivation is as a first step.
We're gonna do a little bit of a rapid fire.
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Rapid Fire.
This is from Molly.
It says, hey, Andrew and Blake, I was watching yesterday.
You can see how strained Charlie's voice was.
I think he It's definitely for the best.
He took the day off.
He deserves it.
My question for you two is a little bit behind the scenes of the Charlie Kirk Show.
How do you guys decide what you talk about every day?
Is any part of it scripted or is Charlie just riffing every day off the cup?
So here's what we basically do.
Our one is Charlie's He has some basic ideas and thoughts that he wants to present.
We usually come up with that the night before or in the morning early, three, four hours before the show.
And then Blake does some research.
I do some research.
Ryan, the whole team kind of pulls assets, videos, supportive, you know, images, all of those things.
And then we discuss it.
And then actually sometimes as Charlie's going, he'll bring up an idea that just like comes to him or an bring more supportive video or images
that support the kind of new direction he goes.
But it's a live wire, I will tell you.
It is always, you gotta stay on your toes here.
And thankfully, we're all consuming so much news all the time that we can kind of go where he goes.
But it's definitely not like broadcast TV.
Connie, hello, Charlie Kirk team.
I have a question for you all.
What is each of your favorite things about Charlie or about your job?
Y'all are saving the country.
My favorite thing about Charlie is he's loyal and he's good.
He's true.
He actually means what he says.
He does what he believes.
And he's loyal to his friends, sometimes to a fault.
But when you work with him, that's a really good thing.
Weston, I heard Andrew say the other day that Bradt's summer might be over.
I hope so.
Do we think this trend being over will actually move voters and impact the election?
Yes, Bradt's summer is over.
The support that she got out of the gate was this exuberant relief from Democrats.
Her favorables are down.
Trump is actually ahead in enthusiasm.
There's a lot of good indications out there that her honeymoon period is over.
and that's really exciting.
Yes.
One more.
My question is around, this is from Mitch, how you all do your emergency episodes so quickly.
Do you all just stay ready constantly for any sort of news?
It's very impressive and reliable.
Yes.
So when something like an assassination or something happens,
we all start calling and texting each other.
Our studio, our tech guys are amazing.
They rush in, they get everything ready to go.
Wherever we're at, we'll zoom in, we'll Skype in, whatever we have to do.
And we know that you guys expect it from us now, so it's kind of part of the way we're wired.
Hopefully that answers your question.
Blake, you have some intel for us as well out of the Dakotas.
Yes I do, yes I do.
So our last question is coming from my dad who has been asking me to do this for a while.
So you guys, oh and I want to answer the question because someone asked.
My favorite thing about Charlie is he's tremendously high agency.
I love how his approach to everything is like, what can I do to save America?
Like on the Nebraska thing, I love how he just went and did it like we talked about it on the show and bam we
have a rally in Nebraska the following week that's Charlie in a nutshell I love that about him anyway
so some of you might remember about a year and a half ago there was a democrat state house rep
from South Dakota her name was Erin Healy and she got angry and tweeted the following quote
extremist group family heritage Alliance said this morning that the safest place for kids
is in families that have a married mom and dad. What a dangerous and un-American
belief. That is what she said. Erin Healy in the red state of South Dakota
said that and Miss Healy is still in the South Dakota State House and is
running for another term.
My father who lives in South Dakota is very upset about this and would like to get her tossed out of office.
So he said, Blake, can you tell the listeners of the Charlie Kirk Show about it and maybe they could help out.
So I told him I would.
So she is being challenged by someone, a woman named Bobby L. Andara.
That's B-O-B-B-I, if you want to look it up.
You can learn more by going to bobbylanderaforehouse.com.
That's a bit long.
B-O-B-B-I-L-A-N-D-E-R-A forehouse dot com.
Obviously, it's not the highest stakes race, so definitely put more of your focus on the presidential election, or gubernatorial races, winning, the swing state stuff that'll help save the country.
But if you want to throw my dad a bone, that is one of his pet issues.
How good would it be for the audience of this show to get another scalp?
So I think we should absolutely support the challenger here and get rid of these radicals at a place like South Dakota.
My goodness.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
We'll talk to you soon.
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