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Sept. 3, 2024 - The Charlie Kirk Show

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The Key Pillars of America — My Speech to TPUSA New Hires

Enjoy Charlie's speech to the most recent hiring class at Turning Point USA to hear what it takes to be apart of one of the largest grassroots movements in the country. Charlie walks through the key points to keeping America free, and lays out how even the lowliest figure in the movement can make a difference for saving the country.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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	Hey everybody, happy Tuesday.
	This is my conversation to our troops at Turning Point USA.
	They're out there starting high school chapters, starting college chapters.
	They are on the front lines and I take questions directly from them at our Turning Point USA new hire training and we get them ready to go and spread the message of freedom and liberty on the front lines of college campuses, the largest fighting force ever.
	Fighting for liberty on high school and college campuses across the country.
	Get involved and support Turning Point USA at TPUSA.com.
	That is TPUSA.com.
	Buckle up, everybody.
	Here we go.
	Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
	Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
	I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
	Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
	I want to thank Charlie.
	He's an incredible guy.
	His spirit, his love of this country.
	He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
	We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
	That's why we are here.
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	Thank you guys.
	How great is Nick Koka, by the way?
	You should give it up for Nick Koka.
	He's not the best.
	I'm going to put my drink here.
	Is that okay?
	All right.
	Well, we're going to try to keep this pretty casual here and get your feedback.
	You guys been having a good week?
	I enjoyed meeting all of you the other night and saying hello, and you are the front lines.
	I hope you guys know that.
	The work that you're doing is making such a serious and critical difference, and we've been doing this for 12 years, and seeing How the culture has changed on these campuses of how students are more comfortable, how they're more confident.
	That's the work that you're all doing.
	So, okay, so essentially, I'm sure they've walked.
	I'm positive that Andrew and Nick have walked through and Chris that each week has a different theme, right?
	We've talked about that.
	So, it's my job to try to just kind of give you a little bit of talking points here, and you guys can ask potentially critical or difficult questions that you think you might get on campus or questions you have about these topics, because part of your job is to be able to present ideas on these campuses that are not always being heard, And then helping equip some of your students to be able to confidently speak about these issues and these topics when it's not always very comfortable or easy.
	So we pick these topics and these weeks with a lot of intentionality.
	Some of them are very agreeable.
	Some of them are incredibly, as you could say, I think this is very agreeable, but that's just me.
	But some of them are more controversial.
	And we do that Yeah.
	I don't think this one would do very well in high school.
	college the same or is there some there's some differences yeah I don't
	Yeah.
	think this one would do very well in high school yeah I mean I'm all for guns
	but you know the yeah a little bit lighter Yeah, okay.
	That's fine.
	That's good, and that's the way it should be.
	So, we're gonna go through this.
	If you guys have questions, I don't think I've ever completed this presentation, right, Andrew, in the history of doing this, right?
	So, it's my pledge to Andrew, I'm actually gonna get through the entire presentation today, just because I tried to sidetrack.
	So, that's more on me than you, so let's start.
	Okay, so, Freedom of All Caliber is obviously about Second Amendment and owning guns.
	Everyone own guns here?
	Yes.
	Hands that aren't up, I'm sure you live in an unfriendly gun state.
	So look, why is it necessary for citizens to be able to own weapons?
	The government should not have a monopoly on force.
	When the government has a monopoly on force, they have a monopoly on speech, and therefore they are able to prevent you from being a sovereign and free citizen.
	So there's two ways to talk about the Second Amendment topic.
	The one is kind of the normie, very simple, agreeable way.
	And then there is the spicier one, which is the real reason we have the Second Amendment, which is a harder, harder way to argue it.
	And it's a lot, it's, you're dealing with a lot of potential pitfalls.
	And let me just pause.
	Just remember, anytime you're talking about these things on campus, you could be, you could be filmed, you could be, and they could try to publicize Turning Point USA staffer.
	So just always understand that.
	Not to put pressure on you guys, but You know, just try to either A, know your stuff, or B, if you're not comfortable, you know, just tell a liberal troll to, you know, keep on walking along, right?
	So just always understand that.
	So the first way to think about gun ownership is the easy and the one that most Americans think we have it, which is for self-defense.
	That is partially why we are able to own guns, is to protect yourself from criminals, from people that want to hurt your family.
	I think this is fundamentally, should be championed by every woman in the country, and every, well, again, there's no people identifying as women, that's all fake, right?
	Actual biological women, it is the great equalizer.
	For young ladies that might feel uncomfortable at night going to their car, or if somebody wants to harm them, having a 9mm is a good way to equalize any sort of situation, right?
	Self-defense actually was not considered to be a right until there was a Supreme Court case.
	Anyone know the name of the case?
	The Heller decision back about 20 years ago.
	It was a 5-4 vote where the Supreme Court was debating, do you actually have a right to own a gun to protect yourself?
	Now, they weren't debating the Second Amendment, but the question was, is it there for self-protection?
	The Supreme Court said, yes, it is there.
	You have a constitutional right that cannot be Trampled upon in any state.
	Now, they do a lot of provisions and they do a lot of different nonsense of background checks and stuff, but that's the first part.
	Now, what is the second part of why we have a second minute?
	Don't say hunting.
	Hunting is just recreational.
	Yes, my two militia members in the back, yeah.
	Yeah, that's right.
	So this is the harder argument to make.
	Not saying you should even have to go there, but let's be honest.
	We don't have the Second Amendment to hunt deer.
	We don't have the Second Amendment to even protect against criminals.
	Those are nice side effects.
	We have the Second Amendment because the government should not be the only ones with the guns.
	It's that simple.
	And for some people, they don't like hearing that.
	They say, oh, what do you think that our government is going to become super tyrannical?
	And again, we lived through one of the most insane periods in American history, three, four years ago, where they were firing people for not taking an mRNA gene-altering thing called a vaccine, where they were kicking people out of the military for that.
	They're wishing us dead if you didn't take the shot.
	I mean, we saw what a tyrannical government could become.
	And imagine how even further tyrannical that would be if we, the citizens, did not have guns.
	Said differently, the Second Amendment protects all the other amendments of the U.S.
	Constitution.
	There is no First Amendment without a Second Amendment.
	You cannot show me a country in the world with robust free speech protections that does not also have firearm ownership.
	Now, this is very important.
	Europe, they say, oh, Europe is very free.
	Europe does not have free speech protections at all.
	One of the reasons we're able to have some of the, again, the First Amendment is fading in this country very quickly, but is because the government is a little bit afraid, like, oh wow, 120 million people own guns.
	Now, I hope we'll never actually have to ever use those guns in that series, in that way, but look at the 20th century.
	From Germany, to Russia, to Italy, you know, Vietnam, Cambodia, and we're flirting with that line here.
	And, in fact, I would argue that the fact that we do own firearms, and that the American people do, it's actually the greatest way to prevent a potential conflict with the government from ever actually occurring.
	Do you remember the Hong Kong freedom protesters a couple years ago?
	And who won?
	The Chinese Communist Party did.
	Why?
	Only one side had the guns.
	You had all these beautiful people in Hong Kong that were out there with, you know, American flags and they were chanting and they were protesting and everyone's a tough guy until a tank rolls up.
	Now imagine if the Hong Kong freedom protesters all had an AR-15 around their back.
	That would have been a negotiation.
	China would have been like, well, I don't know, they got 180,000 people with an AR-15.
	I don't know if we want to go through with this.
	And so think about that played out in, you know, American context and American time.
	So that is a harder argument to make, is that the Second Amendment, as intended by the Founding Fathers, was to protect our God-given rights.
	Any questions, feedback, or difficulty with this topic?
	Yes, ma'am?
	Do you think your AR-15 is going to be able to go against nukes in a tank?
	And my response to that is, you know, I think that it's there to have a well-regulated militia.
	We can't have a militia unless we have the same Um, limitations as the government, so personally I think I should be able to have a fireable tank, but clearly we can't, so why?
	Yes, so reason, again, so I'm more in your category, but yes, so the whole idea, first, that an AR-15 is insignificant against a military, just look at first and foremost, so many military inventions, the Ukraine-Russian one's not a terrible one actually, where you have a lot of under-equipped Ukrainians, again I'm not Overly sympathetic to their cause, but that's a separate issue.
	But you have a bunch of Ukrainians that are, you know, unequipped, and they have AR-15s, some have hunting rifles, and they're still a huge nuisance to the Russian military.
	The point is that some form of force, some form of ability to protect yourself in a theater of war is very important.
	But secondly, okay, you're right, we should not allow every American to own a thermonuclear weapon.
	If the government's going to deploy thermonuclear weapons, like, that's, sorry, okay, you got me, okay?
	You're right, atom bomb, okay?
	Right?
	However, I don't think anyone's arguing for the government to have a monopoly on drones either, like, so, as far as, like, military advanced drones, but...
	I think there is something to be said that the government should not be only to own some of this equipment, but I think reasonable restrictions people can agree or disagree upon.
	But that's not even where the conversation is occurring right now.
	Kamala Harris, who's, again, we're not, this organization is just talking about this educationally, but her stated public policy position is gun registration and gun confiscation.
	Which, again, I want just everyone to understand, in a time of rising crime, in a time of more people that are being victims, why would we want to take the guns away from the people that are doing everything right?
	It's just kind of a little perplexing.
	And finally, I'll go back to the Chinese example.
	That was not a matter of nukes or drones.
	In a very simple situation, it was that you had a disarmed population against an armed population.
	And don't underestimate the potential power and potency of a hundred million Americans that only own AR-15s.
	Against a over-equipped government that might want to terrorize them.
	So, yes.
	Other thoughts?
	Yes, ma'am.
	So, I have a bit of a specific question.
	My territory is in Pennsylvania, so obviously where the Trump rally happened.
	So, I'm anticipating some people to ask me on campus, like, why should we be allowed to have assault rifles that Assassin was able to have one?
	So, I just would love to hear your advice on how to kind of combat that this upcoming semester.
	Yeah, it's great.
	First of all, if we had a functioning Secret Service, no one would really care about that, right?
	So that's the first issue.
	Secondly, let's go through the facts of that particular thing.
	It was a great question.
	There is no such thing as an assault rifle.
	It doesn't exist.
	An assault rifle is a made-up, fictitious term.
	And it's a great question because that's exactly what they would say.
	AR does not stand for assault rifle.
	Anyone know what AR stands for?
	Anyone?
	Yeah, they're good.
	You guys are a bunch of freedom lovers.
	That's right.
	So an assault rifle is a completely, again, if you ask anyone that knows even an elementary understanding of firearms, if you go to a gun store, like, I want to buy an assault rifle, they'd say, what the hell are you talking about?
	They're all assault rifles, right?
	They all can assault you, okay?
	What they really mean by assault weapon or assault rifle is scary-looking thing that I think I don't know how to use, right?
	So that's number one.
	Let's go through actually how he got the weapon, okay?
	This was his father's weapon that was not properly protected or observed.
	So this is actually a parenting breakdown, more it is than a Second Amendment breakdown.
	But then you must also have the courage and you must be principled enough to make even more difficult argument, which is we fully acknowledge and admit that in a free society it comes with costs.
	And we, as Americans, have largely wanted to have a society that valued liberty over safety and comfort.
	And the best example is driving.
	It's the best example, okay?
	Now, if we wanted to save lives, because that's the most important thing, we outlaw all driving.
	We would save 55,000 lives a year, because 55,000 people die on the road.
	You probably all know someone in your community that has died from... But we say, no, the benefit of driving is worth the potential downside of driving.
	But secondly, from that situation, it has nothing to do with the particular weapon that he had, which they're trying to spin that into it.
	It was a failure of the Secret Service protection or detail.
	And understand, there was a police officer who went up the ladder and saw him, was like, oh yeah, nice having a nice day, and then went back down.
	So, let's pretend that situation, here's the other final argument.
	The people that bring it up, you say, hypothetically, let's pretend that situation did not happen.
	Would you still be in favor of taking people's ARs away?
	And they'd say, of course, so that has nothing to do with that situation.
	You're using that as a piece of evidence to try and further your already deeply held belief and agenda of taking people's ability to own firearms away.
	Okay, last question on this topic.
	Yes, because I got to get through it all, right, Andrew?
	Yes.
	So yeah, talking about your Second Amendment rights.
	I live in a district that's just, like, 30 minutes away from Oxford.
	That's where the Oxford school shooting happened, like, a couple years ago, and then, because of that... What state?
	Michigan.
	Okay, I was thinking Oxford, Mississippi, but okay.
	There's Oxfords all over the country, but okay.
	That was the one where the parents got put in jail, right?
	Yep.
	Which I'm not crazy about.
	I'm torn on that.
	But in the situation, I have a Democrat governor, Governor Whitmer.
	Yeah, she's great.
	And both chambers are controlled by Democrats, so they passed a bunch of gun control legislation, thinking that, hey, this is going to work.
	So in the case where we're trying to educate students, especially on high school campuses, about Second Amendment rights, When there's a situation where a student can be like, well, what about all these other gun control legislations that just got passed?
	Like, these are reasonable gun control.
	Why are you against reasonable, like, gun control?
	Right.
	So let's take that one at a time.
	That specific situation, was there an armed guard at the school?
	I don't think there was.
	Correct?
	So, okay, this is the best way to first think about this.
	If I am a terrible school shooter, and I'm given the option of one school that has no guards and no police, or another school that has armed teachers, police, and a security guard, which school would I go to?
	More importantly, if you are sending your child to school, which school would you rather send your child to?
	The one with no protection, or not?
	Any reasonable person would pick that.
	And they say, well, you know, we don't want to militarize our schools.
	Okay, great.
	So then, let me understand this.
	When you board an airplane, go watch the Arizona Diamondbacks, or go and deposit some money at a bank, why is it that all three of those have armed security, and our children do not?
	Are our sports teams and our vacations and our money, are they more important than our children?
	And the answer is yes, they are.
	In current American society.
	We protect our money, tourism, sporting events, more so than we do our own children.
	And so you say, look, we understand there's a lot of guns in society.
	The best way to stop a gun is someone who knows how to have a gun to prevent it, right?
	You could end 99% of all school shootings if you had the same security that airports had, that schools have.
	Now, I'm not talking about, like, TSA lines and all that, but I think we would all agree that a child is much worthier protection than the other.
	Now, they say reasonable gun control.
	Again, you have to look at the actual legislation.
	Let me tell you what's not reasonable.
	What's not reasonable is what Illinois has done repeatedly and has that deterred gun violence.
	No, it's not!
	Illinois is more murderous, bloodier than it ever has been, Despite very, very aggressive gun control.
	So they'll say, but you know the bad guys just go to Indiana to get guns.
	You're right, and the good guys don't.
	So let's take two cities, again I could talk about this topic all day long.
	If gun laws have no bearing on local crime, why is it that Houston, which also has gang violence, lots of drug trafficking, why does Houston have a significantly lower murder rate, despite an almost parallel population, than Chicago?
	What is the difference between Houston and Chicago?
	Look, a criminal is going to be a little bit less You know, with a little bit less gusto and zeal, if they know that millions of other people potentially might have a firearm meeting them around the corner.
	In Chicago, they know that nobody has a firearm waiting for them.
	Very simple, very rational and reasonable.
	And finally, I am a big believer in allowing teachers to own weapons.
	I know that this is something that, you know, blows people's mind, but let me just use one final example.
	You will not be able to go into a jewelry store here in Scottsdale without the owner himself with a firearm behind his back.
	Happened just the other day at a jewelry store.
	Took it out, criminals left.
	So again, the necklaces, the rings, and the jewels in Scottsdale are protected by guns and our kids are sitting ducks.
	So I could go through the reasonable, I'd have to look at the laws, but every one of their quote-unquote reasonable gun laws has something in common.
	Let's take more guns away from people who did nothing wrong to make it easier for people that do stuff wrong to hurt the people that did nothing wrong.
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	So this is very complicated from a policy standpoint, but I think it's very simple and it's a way to try to liberate a lot of conversation on campus, which is that this is where I think you can make a lot of headway.
	And I think we have another free speech one in addition to this, don't we?
	This is just one of the free speech ones, is that right?
	Okay.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Yeah, that's good.
	And this is very important, which is that every single person you're talking to on campus has a smartphone.
	They're on TikTok.
	They're in all this nonsense, right?
	And the question you should ask them, which is on social media, should free speech be prioritized above somebody's feelings or somebody's emotions?
	Now, as you guys know, I post on social all the time.
	We do all this stuff.
	I'm reluctantly on TikTok.
	I'm told it's going very, very well.
	I don't know.
	Daisy's here somewhere, probably posting on One of those things.
	But we get banned from TikTok all the time.
	Why?
	Because of harassment.
	Quote-unquote harassment.
	Do you know I cannot post a video on immigration or transgenderism on TikTok without it being pulled immediately?
	Now, a lot of Gen Zers agree with that.
	They're like, oh yeah, people's feelings must matter more than, you know, people's free speech rights.
	More importantly though, and this is kind of going into this overarching totalitarian thing, which is that You need to make the argument that tyranny is not only within the government.
	Tyranny can also be found within corporations and within companies.
	So, I could go on this at length.
	Any questions you guys have?
	Thoughts on this?
	I know that's a big topic, but the idea that, you know, big tech can shut us up.
	Anybody?
	Yes, ma'am.
	Yeah, that's a great question.
	So, I'm not even saying I'm in favor of... I am in favor of the government coming in, but let's pretend for the Point of argument.
	So, let's take a step back.
	Why are we in favor of small government?
	That's the more important question.
	Because we don't like centralized power and the abuse of power.
	So what happens when your companies are more powerful than your government?
	And you say, well, what do you mean?
	Google right now has far more power to manipulate people's opinions a lot more than the Department of Energy.
	Would we agree?
	Now, Google can't put you in a prison cell, but they can put you in an ideological prison cell.
	So let's just take another interesting example, which I think if we don't intervene in the right way, we're going to be in a tough spot.
	Let's look at ChatGPT.
	If you type in to ChatGPT right now, tell me about the Trump assassination, they'll say, sorry, I can't answer that question.
	So, what you have is the entire mindset of a generation.
	And that's all private companies, right?
	Free if three or four companies, which are given government handouts in favor, so that's something we could probably do, is stop giving them carve-outs and start giving them favoritism, all this nonsense.
	And so, what I'd never want to live in a society is, again, let's pretend theoretically we have very, very small limited government, but we have four companies that control everything.
	That will almost never happen because big companies really suck off of, you know, and leech off of Big government, so there's usually a harmonic relationship, but we are supportive of small government because we want people to be free.
	I'll give you another example.
	In the 2020 election, I lost my Twitter account for 30 days alongside many other people because I said that the Hunter Biden laptop was real and not Russian disinformation, right?
	So here you have, and by the way, that was the government lobbying the tech companies, and the tech companies doing the bidding of the federal government, and we did not have a fair and free election because of that.
	So what is the solution?
	That's a tough question, but if you could at least get a student to agree that it's creepy and weird that we have multi-trillion dollar companies that are manipulating their mindset, their viewpoint, I think that's probably a step in the right direction.
	Another question on this?
	Anybody?
	Okay, let's move to the next one.
	Okay, which one's this one?
	Yeah, so just kind of generally about the big government thing, right?
	And again, I think that it's a little inconsistent on the first one, which is where some people say, I don't like big government, but I'm perfectly fine with big Google.
	So I think we have to be a little bit consistent as far as we don't like these overarching tyrannical power structures.
	Let's talk about big government.
	So what exactly is big government?
	Well, obviously it sucks, right?
	And why is government growing?
	Here's my own personal opinion as just kind of a side note.
	I believe that government grows when people lose the ability to police their own life and to be able to govern themselves.
	I believe that if you have a society that no longer believes in God, this is my own personal opinion, and no longer believes in almighty or higher power, they lose the ability to engage in self-government.
	And so self-government is a prerequisite to liberty, and if you do not have people that are able to understand the principle of self-government, you'll no longer be able to live in a free society.
	So, the federal government, how many articles of the Constitution are there?
	Seven.
	Good guess.
	Yes, you're right.
	That's right.
	Seven.
	And so the seven articles of the Constitution lay out the form and the structure of government.
	Now, in the U.S.
	Constitution, Article 1 deals with the, good, legislative.
	Article 2 deals with the executive.
	Article 3, that's right, by process of elimination, we're finally there, right?
	Now, what article deals with the FBI, Department of Justice, EPA, Department of Energy, FBI, Trick question, that's right.
	And that's really where we need to emphasize our focus, right?
	Is that the last 100 years we have created an unconstitutional, super-constitutional, A multi-trillion dollar beast, a leviathan, that is not within our original form and structure of government.
	It's called the administrative state, or the bureaucracy, or the deep state, whatever you want to call it, and there is no current check and balance.
	They write their own laws, they're unaccountable, they're unelected, and they're largely unknown to the American people.
	And they do whatever they want, regardless of the will of the American people.
	If we're actually serious about retaking this country, it needs to be with assailing and restricting the fourth branch of government.
	Any thoughts on that?
	Questions, guys?
	Yes?
	Yeah, I mean, look, this is not Charlie running for president, but yes, I mean, like, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah I think that provocatively you need to ask the question first and foremost which is that is it healthy that we have a standing army of secret police that arrests pro-life grandmas for praying peacefully outside of abortion clinics and raids the homes of pastors because you know for whatever I mean the FBI has become the secret police of the regime and not even doing what they're supposed to be doing There are hundreds of thousands of pedophiles that are not even touched or investigated by the government every single year that do whatever they want.
	And meanwhile, you have Steve Bannon in federal prison, Peter Navarro in federal.
	I mean, I can go through the list.
	You guys know it, right?
	And so, yes, in an ideal world, I would shut down the FBI.
	I'd actually have the US Marshals take over all the casework.
	I'm not against a federal police force.
	Yeah, the U.S.
	Marshals.
	And they're amazing, and they're depoliticized, and they're just old school.
	They're constitutional, straight and narrow.
	They do their job.
	And do you know that the U.S.
	Marshals are one-twentieth the size of the Federal Bureau of Investigation?
	And they have nearly ten times the amount of child sex crimes indictments as the FBI.
	They just do their work.
	They're amazing.
	They're not political.
	If you guys want to get really wonky about this, the chartering of the FBI was super suspicious.
	J. Edgar Hoover was a really bad guy.
	They've always existed as like the secret police of the current orthodoxy of the regime.
	And I think that's really wrong and it's terrible in many different ways.
	But yes, I could go through other things I would eliminate as well.
	But yes, the other question is that you need to ask students, which is, do you think that you are going to live in a free society with the government the size that it currently is?
	And unfortunately, we don't talk much about the size and scope of government anymore.
	It's a tragedy.
	Other thoughts, questions?
	Concerns?
	Okay.
	Oh, yeah, this is great.
	So, this kind of has two prongs here, which is like college being a scam, which we did last semester.
	That was a lot of fun.
	How many college is a scam questions did I get?
	The content was great, right?
	It's not a scam!
	Trust me!
	Sure, it's great.
	So again, I think relentlessly reminding them that they're getting ripped off in college is fun, but also it's true.
	This particular one applies more to young conservatives, probably, because they believe in free speech as long as you're a college liberal.
	But yes, I mean, the whole proposition of college, I think there is a potential opening here, is reminding students That they are going into debt to subsidize themselves to not be able to express their opinions and not be able to really honestly learn anything at most of these colleges.
	So yeah, the whole idea, the whole kind of topic we want here is trying to challenge them because here's the way that we think about it.
	Is that we're not going to be able to get them to challenge big government and all this if they don't understand that they're currently living in a very rigged, authoritarian environment on that college campus.
	If you can get them to think differently and analytically about the current college campus environment that they're in, then it might open up their mind for other such injustices.
	Thoughts on this?
	College in general?
	Objections?
	Yes, ma'am.
	When I was in college, I went to Auburn University, actually.
	War Eagle, yeah.
	And we, our president and vice president, arranged a peaceful protest twice based upon your Educate, Don't Mandate that year.
	And we got the mandate dropped at our school, and then you came and talked to us with Allie Beth Stuckey, and it was honestly the coolest thing ever, and we still talk about it.
	Well, that's amazing.
	Thank you.
	And that means a lot.
	Thank you.
	That was one of my top five favorite viral moments.
	Do you remember it at the end?
	It was so great.
	And it was the last question and she comes up and she says, where's your criminology degree?
	That was your classmate in a poetry class.
	Shocking.
	And it was just such a great exchange.
	I think that's been seen 50 or 60 million times.
	I love when these, you know, young ladies, they're usually young ladies, but sometimes young men, they email us afterwards, I did not consent to being filmed.
	I'm like, yeah, you were in front of 800 people, like, we're good, right?
	It's like, what you didn't consent to is getting owned.
	Like, that's a separate issue, right?
	That's two different things, right?
	Alright.
	Other questions on that?
	College.
	I have very strong opinions on college.
	You don't have to subscribe to them.
	If you think college is great, fine.
	Like, whatever.
	That's not... That's not what this is all about.
	But yes.
	Yes, ma'am.
	What would your recommendation be to students who are nervous about writing papers or putting out their beliefs in the written word for their classes and for their professors to see and then potentially downgrade them and so on?
	Yeah, it's a great question.
	I get it all the time.
	I have a very different view than Ben Shapiro does on this.
	I like Ben, he's a friend I've known for years, but he has a completely different view.
	So, his view, you know, he went to Harvard, is just lie on your exams, lie on your paper, get the good grade, and march to the institutions, right?
	Get the degree, and then use it against them, and all of that.
	So, I have a completely different view.
	I think grades mean nothing.
	I think grades are completely irrelevant.
	I don't care where you went to school.
	I don't care what your grades were.
	I care what your character is.
	And I care about if you're a good person and if you have courage.
	Like, if you have good grades and you're evil, there are a lot of really smart evil people.
	And I'm not saying cheating on a test is an evil thing, but it brings your soul and your character closer towards evil deeds and actions than closer towards beautiful and good actions.
	So my worldview is that everything you do matters in all places of time, regardless of the circumstances.
	And that if you are going to do something that is questionable morally, you must have a really good reason to do it.
	For example, someone knocks on your door.
	Are you hiding Jews?
	It's okay to say, no, I'm not hiding Jews.
	Okay.
	That's perfectly fine.
	Okay.
	We're not talking about that.
	No, let's just be clear.
	Okay.
	We're talking about a college exam, right?
	Cause some people say, well, Charlie, would you lie to hide you?
	I would totally lie to them about hiding Jews.
	Okay.
	And I would hide Jews and you should too, right?
	The whole idea, right?
	No, seriously, that let's just be very clear.
	But we're talking about a college exam where we have been propagandized to believe that grades matter.
	They just don't.
	I'm sorry.
	Oh, I won't get into med school.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah, your life is over if you don't get into med school, okay?
	There's like a million different things that you could do in life.
	And the issue is this, is that most parents have told their kids the most important thing is getting good marks and career ascension, where the way we should raise kids is that, no, the most important thing is being a person of strong character and solid virtue and a good person.
	And a lot more than just getting A's on whatever test and you forget 99% of the subject material you're after anyway and it's just kind of as a matter of just passing through, not exactly important to me.
	So my opinion does not always resonate with students because they are held hostage to this belief that they have to do well in that current, not just well, Whatever is the expense.
	And let's play this out.
	If every person in college that agreed with us was vocal in their classrooms, yeah, they might downgrade everybody, but wouldn't that be a better country to live in?
	Where you have more courageous people, and more people speaking out, and less people just cowering in fear like, oh yes, and men can give birth, and I believe in reparations.
	How ugly I would feel about myself.
	I mean, if I, like, wrote that stuff?
	Oh, wow, I got an A. Okay.
	I mean, it's disgusting, actually.
	That's the way I'm wired.
	I'd rather fail and get thrown out of school than write something I knew was a lie, let alone something I don't believe.
	Like, there's two different variations here.
	You could write something you don't believe, and then just writing something that is a lie.
	Like, Dylan Mulvaney is the most courageous person for living authentically.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Yes, ma'am.
	Yeah, so kind of just to add on to that topic, when I was in, I did a stint at a community college locally, and my English professor put out an assignment to write a paper on socialism.
	And so I wrote an anti-socialism paper, obviously.
	And I submitted it and she gave me a really bad grade.
	She failed me for the paper.
	So actually what I did was I went back and I looked at the specific requirements for the paper and the assignment and nowhere in there did it say that it had to be like one or the other like pro or anti and so I went in and like complained and I got my grade changed because nowhere in there did it say that it had to be her view.
	She was just a really pro socialism teacher.
	Well thank you and that's amazing.
	And you probably, in that experience, became a stronger, tougher person, right?
	Awesome.
	So, yes, very quick.
	Yes, ma'am.
	One thing that I know is still the norm is that parents still want their kids to go to college and have that degree and kind of move forward up in their careers.
	What would your advice be for when we're talking about, at least for high school students who are wanting to get into college or who have parents who are pushing them to get into college?
	Because we want the parents to be our allies too when there's that decision.
	You do not have to take the Charlie Kirk worldview into your high school department.
	However, what I'm saying is right, and people don't have to... I'm sorry.
	It's just that I don't come to these conclusions lightly, and my entire thesis, in its totality, is written in a book, which you guys... Thank you very much.
	The College Scam.
	You dropped out of it?
	Thank you!
	And now you have a job!
	I love it.
	I love it.
	Well, thank you.
	Caden, right?
	Yeah.
	And so, again, you don't have to agree with everything there, but the analysis is bulletproof.
	And so, look, I am a strong critic of parents that think that four-year college is the most important thing ever.
	Here's my advice, is asking a series of questions to get people to think analytically and to challenge their premise.
	So let me, I say this to employers all the time or parents.
	I say, first of all, what would you, what do you want?
	Do you want a successful kid or a good kid?
	And they say, well, I want both.
	And I say, okay, let me ask you this.
	If I took your child and I asked them, does your parent want you to be happy, successful, smart, or good?
	What do you think that, that the kid would say?
	90% of kids say that my parents want me to be successful.
	Very few say that my parents want me to be good.
	So you can actually call out the parent in real time, and they're like, oh, well, I thought I was always telling you, like, no, you were always probably drilling it into them at family dinners, you better go to college, better college, not you better, you know, give back that $20 bill when you're supposed to get a 10 at the gas station.
	That's why society is falling apart.
	Or you better, you know, scan every item in the Whole Foods checkout line.
	Right?
	You could play it out, right?
	Oh, it's just, you know, I'm not earning enough money.
	It's 20 bucks or whatever.
	You get how society unravels because we've raised it that way.
	So anyway, that's the first thing.
	Ask those series of questions.
	But here's a good question.
	You say to an employer or a parent, and if you had two resumes in front of you to hire somebody, Resume A is they went to University of Oklahoma, right, and they studied communications, and they did fine.
	Okay?
	Which a lot of your students will fit in high school under that criteria.
	Nothing wrong with that, right?
	Or Resume B, did not go to college and instead visited 50 countries and learned to speak two languages.
	Which person pops up as somebody that is probably going to be a better employee?
	I mean, it's not even close, right?
	The person who was in Norman, Oklahoma, screaming at a football game?
	The person that went to 50 countries, and I said, well, Charlie, it's really hard to go 50 countries.
	You can travel a lot for $175,000.
	Over four years.
	I know this is a provocative thing to say, but I firmly believe that if we told our high school kids, like, yeah, you gotta go to 50 countries, come back to me when you get there, they're like, well, that's not safe!
	Like, hold on, I thought that college campus was, like, rape culture, they're hunting you down at night, like, which one is it exactly, right?
	So, and by the way, just so we're clear, Dubai, Singapore, Tokyo, way safer than Texas A&M, okay?
	Way safer.
	Sorry.
	Or Texas Tech.
	Or NYU, or whatever.
	So again, we've fallen victim to our own premises that college campuses are this anointing and this christening.
	And again, my role, you don't have to do this, I do think though that it's healthy that when a society has an overemphasis on something that's obviously dysfunctional, Freedom lovers should be unafraid to challenge those premises.
	And sometimes those premises are right, but what I found with the college thing is that almost nobody defends it.
	It's almost like hostile attacks, and it's like vicious name-calling, which, that's how you know you're exactly telling the truth about everything, right?
	Oh, shut up, person that didn't go to college!
	I go, hold on, no, but tell me why it's great.
	Like, oh, you wouldn't know because, well, actually, I would know because I didn't go to college about what you could do without going to college.
	Anyway, separate issue.
	So, last one on this topic.
	But you don't have to agree with everything I say on this.
	I mean that sincerely, yes.
	I just drop out, and by some miracle, if it's a conservative course, I say, well, join a chapter, start a chapter, it will make your college experience better than ever.
	But what do I say to someone on the left who asks that?
	Yeah, again, you're not their counselor.
	That's number one.
	So do not ever, I'm careful about this, I never give people specific advice.
	Only like 99, like there's a 0.1% exception if I feel as if there's something I really can advise them on, but there's so many factors you don't know and nuances and they might not be telling you the whole truth.
	So instead, just ask questions and let them stir and think about it, which is, does that current path, do you think it's going to get you closer to your end goal?
	And again, ask them what type of person do you want to be, right?
	What does success look like?
	Is what you are doing getting closer or getting you closer or further away from that end goal?
	So you're not here to be people's counselor.
	You're certainly not there to be some random liberals, you know, guidance counselor when they walk by.
	But what you will notice about any criticism, and we saw this, and Andrew can attest to this, we did this, you know, college is a scam thing, just the hostility of people's protection of the industry.
	I was like, you guys are protecting an industry that's making you poorer and angrier.
	Like, at least be value neutral about it.
	And it was just like, they are defending college the way that a good Catholic would defend the Catholic Church.
	That's the closest thing.
	It was like, can do no wrong.
	I will defend it at all costs.
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	Pretty simple American exceptionalism.
	We are the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world.
	We don't have the greatest government, though.
	So those are two important things, okay?
	Greatest country, not greatest government.
	Why are we great?
	We're great because of our people, our traditions, our customs, our ideas, our principles, our history.
	There is something special about this country, and we should never forget it.
	Even though I am hypercritical about where the culture is, that doesn't mean that the country is lost.
	Those are two different things, right?
	A country is the combined embodiment of things that have become prior, unburdened by what has been.
	And possible.
	What's the last part?
	It's nauseating.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But that's a very important thing because, again, you could dive into that.
	Word salad.
	Yeah, exactly.
	By the way, I think we should lean into it.
	I'm gonna get shirts that I say, like, just like, we are weird.
	I think we have to just own it, right?
	By the way, you know what they think is weird?
	They think it's weird to get married, have children, go to church.
	That's what they think is weird.
	I think that all that trans-zealotry is very weird.
	I think that Last Supper desecration is weird, okay?
	Anyway, that's just me.
	That's a separate issue.
	Look, there's a lot of anti-Americanism here.
	If there's one thing that I hope you got, and this is a really good topic for high school, this is probably the most agreeable high school one, is just be unapologetic of why we are great.
	We are a beautiful country.
	I just, again, I'm all open for criticism.
	I literally host a show all day long criticizing the stuff that's going on in this country.
	But there's so much goodness left in this country.
	There's so many great people.
	There's so much hope.
	You can look at it objectively from greatest economy, most success, most gold medals, most Nobel Prizes, all that stuff.
	But it's just so objectively true that there's something that went right here in this experiment that we are losing.
	And I think one of the reasons we're losing it is a lack of gratitude for this country.
	And I'm happy to go through the objections where people say, but Charlie, you know, we have the most prisoners or most whatever it's the whole, you know, list that they say, and you should never necessarily dismiss those.
	So that's all legitimate.
	Does the positive outweigh the negatives?
	Is this country a better country than it is a worse country?
	And if we're so bad, why do so many people want to be here?
	And one of my favorite lines is, America is so great that even those who hate it refuse to leave.
	And so, let's do some questions on this.
	I could talk about this all day long.
	Yes, ma'am.
	So, last week I was at the Hamas protest in Washington, D.C.
	when Netanyahu was there.
	And there was a girl standing and yelling at us.
	And I asked her, are you anti-American?
	She screams yes.
	And I started asking her, so maybe you go to Gaza and see that place, which makes, you know, no sense.
	Why are you still here if you hate America?
	So what do we do in those kind of sense when they try to attack us, but at the same time they don't want to leave America?
	I love your accent.
	What is it?
	Ukrainian.
	Okay, I hope I didn't offend you, but if I did, that's fine.
	So, are we on the same page?
	Yeah, okay, great.
	See, a lot of Ukrainians like my... It's a very interesting thing, because they know what's going on.
	Anyway, that's a separate issue.
	Very good.
	So, the... First of all, again, this is not like the Charlie Kirk for President Hour, but I would deport those people so quickly.
	I mean, if you hate the country and you're invited as a visitor, like, why are you still here?
	I don't understand.
	Like, you have to come on our terms.
	It's just insane to me.
	This is what is so dangerous, what we're living through, is that some of these people were born here, and they're raised here, and they're educated here, and they have venom for the country.
	And so there's something deeper going on where, and I mean this as gently as I could put it, is that they have other unremedied psychological issues sometimes, and they're just using a hatred of America as a vehicle and as a way to try and project other demons that they haven't necessarily wrestled with or
	reconciled.
	And so that's number one.
	There's nothing stable or healthy about going and burning American flags
	and putting graffiti all over the statues in downtown D.C.
	Like, that's not stable behavior.
	And there's a lot of reasons for that.
	But yes, how we deal with it, this is one of the most frustrating things I have to deal with.
	And this is why I also love first-generation immigrants that have come to this country
	and they're on fire for America from Venezuela or from Vietnam.
	And I just love it.
	Are you first or second generation?
	First.
	Okay, and you get it, right?
	Because you have no idea how bad it could actually... You try to tell people you have no idea how bad it could actually get and how, you know, this country could basically... is collapsing from its own weight.
	So you have a great story to tell that you could get, I think, angrier and more intense from a righteous position than I can, Because these self-righteous, very, very entitled Americans that our family's been here for 150 years are telling you about how terrible this country is.
	And they have no idea what they're talking about.
	So there's two ways that you can operate in a society.
	You can operate from a place of gratitude or ingratitude.
	When you have gratitude for a country, you grow, you thrive, you prosper.
	When you have ingratitude for a country, you collapse.
	It's that simple.
	And right now, we have more people that are ungrateful to be an American than grateful to be an American.
	And again, two things can be simultaneously true.
	Great country, terrible circumstance.
	Great country, awful government.
	Those things can simultaneously exist.
	Other thoughts? Yes, sir.
	Kind of going off your idea about awful government, I've empowered a lot of people who think...
	who think that patriotism equates to pride in a government or loyalty to institutions or things like that.
	How would you best differentiate between those things?
	Yeah, and again, we are conservatives because we inherently do not have loyalty to the state, right?
	We have loyalty to the nation, and the nation is not the state.
	The state is the current composition of what is supposed to allow the nation to continue to exist.
	The liberals, they will conflate nation and statehood as the same thing.
	So, the best example of this, which is, does the country continue to exist if all of a sudden the federal government disappeared tomorrow?
	Of course it would.
	We'd have a lot of problems, right?
	We wouldn't have highways and a military, but we could rebuild the state immediately because the nation pre-existed the state.
	Does that make sense?
	So we formed our government as a people, and then we decided to form a government.
	The government did not exist, and then formed the United States of America.
	And that distinction is incredibly important.
	And a country is a combination of history, tradition, customs, and most importantly, values.
	The American value system is the greatest value system on the planet.
	There's not one that comes even close.
	And the best way to summarize the American value system, I got this from Dennis Prager, is the American Trinity.
	So in Christianity, the Trinity is God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit.
	Anyone know the American Trinity?
	Anyone know it?
	So it's on every coin.
	Anyone have a coin?
	Do you guys still have, like, dimes, pennies, quarters?
	No?
	Alright, it's liberty, In God We Trust and E Pluribus Unum.
	So, liberty, which is a fundamental American value, which is not being able to do whatever you want to do whenever you want to do it.
	It's actually the freedom to do what one ought to do.
	That's a much deeper separate issue that you can have me back at a different time to talk about.
	In God We Trust, I'm a firm believer that if you do not believe in some sort of an almighty, omniscient, omnipotent being, then government will replace that.
	And then finally, E Pluribus Unum.
	Anyone know what that means in Latin?
	Yeah, that's right.
	Out of many, one.
	Correct.
	Which means that skin color, race, color, tradition, none of that stuff matters.
	What matters is that we are all human beings, made in the image of the end god that we put trust in, and that we are all one species together.
	Human equality, basically.
	Right?
	That's the American trinity.
	That value system is the greatest on the planet.
	No one comes even close.
	So when you have great values, and you have people that follow those values, and then sacrifice for those values with courage, Right?
	The Greatest Generation, Storm Normandy's Beach, you have a great civilization for a long period of time.
	Where we are in 2024 is we have been, think about this, we are all trust fund babies.
	We're all trust fund babies of the Greatest Generation.
	We did not earn this country.
	We didn't build this country.
	So we have been spending down our inheritance, first from Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, then the greatest generation, Eisenhower, and we are very low.
	Our bank account is very low right now.
	Because we are the metaphorical, to use a biblical analogy, right?
	We are the son that has left and spent the entire inheritance, right?
	Exactly, the prodigal son, thank you.
	Are we gonna come back and repent?
	That whole story's about repentance, basically, right?
	Spent the inheritance, come back and realize, like, we got nothing left, because we haven't built any of it.
	And the whole project at Turning Point USA is, like, first realizing that the inheritance is basically all been spent, and then go back to what actually gave us that inheritance in the first place, which is good values and virtuous people, appreciation for the country, appreciation for the flag, and core fundamental values and ideas.
	Okay, last question on this one.
	Yes, sir.
	It kind of has to relate with some of the stuff you just said about repentance and God, and so I was just going to ask.
	I'm a Christian, Holy Spirit-filled believer myself.
	Do you think there needs to be an element of repentance and bringing God into it to save the country?
	Absolutely, yes.
	And for those of you that are not religious, I think you could—and I'm very religious, but again, this is not all about just Charlie's religious views—however, I think we can all objectively agree that the country has fallen apart as the country has fallen away from a belief in an Almighty Creator God.
	Even if you are an atheist, Which Christopher Hitchens has said, he agrees with this argument, that as the West has become less Christian, it has become less free, because he believes those two things are actually tied together.
	Don't take my word for it, John Adams said in the founding of the country, the Constitution is written wholly for a moral and religious people, it is wholly inadequate for the people of any other.
	Said differently, it's that if you don't believe in, let's just say, a biblical God, It could be Jehovah, Yahweh, Jesus, whatever.
	Some sort of a God that knows you, made you, judges you, and potentially saves you.
	Those are the characteristics of the God of the Bible, right?
	If you don't believe in that, then something else becomes that God.
	There's a counterfeit.
	And the counterfeits are really bad and really dangerous.
	God of self, God of pleasure, God of environmentalism, God of anti-racism, God of social movements, God of all the isms.
	Nihilism, yeah, socialism, scientism, are replacement theologies of what once was Judeo-Christian values in the West.
	So what we have been led to believe is, oh, you know, religion is a bunch of hocus-pocus, it's a bunch of wizardry, never was true, doesn't matter, let's just kind of cast that aside, means nothing, and then people can just live free in a value-neutral way.
	We were suckers to ever believe that, because what happened is replacement religions that are very sinister, never built anything, and have destroyed almost every civilization that it's come in contact with.
	Last question on this.
	Actually, let's go to the next one, and hold those questions if we have time.
	Pretty simple.
	Yeah, this is great, and I love this, which is that I don't think you'll have as much of an issue here, but people that complain a lot and refuse to vote—one of my least favorite categories ever, right?
	These are people that will wait 15 minutes in line for their Frappuccino at Starbucks, but they won't fill in a mail-in ballot, because they're sticking it to the man.
	Now, mind you, that's a uniquely boomer phenomenon that I deal with, which is like, I'm a tough guy, I'm not voting.
	Like, yeah, you're an idiot, and I have no time for you, like, get out of the way.
	All of you should be constantly encouraging your members, the people you come in contact with, to vote, to register to vote.
	We are a 501c3.
	You cannot and should not advocate for the defeat or the success of any particular candidate.
	However, educating through values and all this stuff will make citizens we believe make informed and educated choices.
	So, pretty simple here.
	Any questions here on this one?
	Yes, ma'am.
	There's no other country out there that hates themselves as much as the left hates us.
	That's beautifully put.
	So with that middle ground in mind, how do we spread these values to the most effective way to that middle ground?
	Because those are going to be the people that really do bring the change.
	That's a really good question.
	So I don't know, but I will tell you, I say this.
	So I think our approach is best.
	I think that there's multiple approaches.
	But our approach has been this, which is be very bold and declarative of the truth, create shock and awe, spice and attention, and through that you will have invigorated troops, followers that are energized, and that the people in the middle will find what you do as a form of pseudo-entertainment, and they will then be drawn over over a period in the course of time.
	I think that's the best way.
	And I think the numbers show that.
	I think our social media shows it.
	I think our chapters show that.
	Do you potentially turn off some people in the middle?
	Yes, but what's the alternative?
	We could be going through this be like, well, as to not offend people, let's try to do that.
	That's I don't think that's the tone of the country.
	I don't think that's the way you build movements.
	Movements are not built on political correct Foundations.
	Movements are built on truth, and they're built on people that believe it, and they're willing to go fight for it.
	And so, winning over the middle, I think, is, it happens over a period of time, when courageous people are willing and able to defend their value system, when they receive opposition.
	If that makes sense.
	Yes, ma'am?
	I'm kind of going off that point.
	Do you think it's effective when talking to any crowd, whether it's people kind of in the middle, on the left, on the right, wherever it may be, to kind of raise like a deeper question?
	Like, what is like the end goal for your life?
	And I know that we can get into All sorts of different... That shouldn't be a deep question, by the way.
	Yeah, that's... Hey, I agree with that.
	But I guess that... Is that an effective strategy to take, is kind of my question.
	I mean, yes, I think that dialogue is important.
	You'll be able to find out... It's a very insightful question.
	If you're talking to a liberal or a left... There's a little bit between liberal and leftist, but they're cousins of each other.
	Liberals are weak, leftists are evil, but they're both cousins of each other, right?
	And so if you're talking to a leftist, whatever, They usually do not have a very long horizon in their life, typically.
	If you're talking to a conservative, they usually have a very, very long horizon.
	So, said differently, a conservative typically will embody delayed gratification in almost everything they do, where a liberal will engage in indulgence and instant gratification with a very short-term horizon.
	Now, those are generalizations.
	But you think about it, a conservative says, I want to get married, I want to have children, I want to own a home, I want to save money.
	All of that is that I am going to do things that are hard, but deep.
	that are difficult but rewarding, but I want a government that allows me to do those things.
	A liberal would be like, because here's the problem, is that liberalism and leftism, the undercurrent idea toxin is nihilism, which is what's destroying this country.
	Nothing matters, nothing's true, who are you to say, let me do my stuff, give me some weed, give me some alcohol, free sex, no costs, right?
	That is the undercurrent because they say, well, there's really nothing that's true.
	I might as well feel good while doing it, right?
	You only live once, right?
	I want to, I want to have the most amount of fun, most amount of stuff, most amount of toys, most amount of pleasure, because we only get so many years.
	And that is, I don't think anyone here holds that view, right?
	Cause it's really damaging, really dark and leads to depression and suicide anxiety and all these other really dark places because life is actually infinitely more deep than that.
	So yes, asking a simple question as what is your life's goal can sometimes flush that out.
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	Socialism will inevitably result. That's a very powerful one. Result in communism. Yes. I mean, look, socialism is
	like I'm not a fan of marijuana. If you know that. So I think if you're a fan, that's fine. I'm just saying that
	socialism, I think marijuana actually is a gateway drug.
	That's my own opinion. You don't have to agree with me. The data is overwhelming. I just don't think it's a good idea
	to do that.
	I think we're getting closer and closer to being able to say that definitively.
	Socialism is a gateway drug to communism, right?
	So as socialism happens, communism happens.
	One leads to the other.
	And yes, they're both totalitarian, but there really is not much of a distinction between the two, which is that in socialism, they believe in small citizen, big government.
	We believe in big citizen, small government.
	In socialism, they believe in almost no families, and the government becomes the family.
	We believe that the family should be premier, and the government should take a backseat.
	So on and so forth.
	Questions on this?
	Thoughts and comments?
	Yes, you have not asked a question yet.
	Just on this topic, what do you tell the people that talk about the European countries that have socialism and that it totally works there?
	Yeah, it works.
	I love when they're like, yeah, the UK works so well.
	It's like, really?
	The UK works really well?
	Where they're being overrun by You know, like, basically Mohammedans, in a way that you wouldn't believe.
	By the way, it's not a derogatory, that's actually the way you say it in the UK, just so we're clear.
	But yes, I just, so I think they're specifically talking about Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark.
	I've done hundreds of hours of videos on this.
	Number one, say, okay, what are their immigration policies?
	Very restrictive, right?
	That's number one, which we would never do in our country, because diversity is our strength, right?
	Number two, The Norwegian, Norway, they have a trillion dollar sovereign wealth fund made basically out of fossil fuel extraction and, you know, oil and natural gas.
	But most importantly is this, which is, let's pretend that it quote-unquote works even though they have a very homogenous population, no immigration, all this.
	Would you rather live in a comfortable society that gives you everything that you want, We're a free society that allows you to achieve anything that you wish to do.
	Which one would you want?
	Like, and most people are like, oh, I'd rather have stuff.
	Like, okay, then hypothetically, let's just play this out.
	What would you think if I told you, because this exists in America, I could have, you could have three meals paid a day.
	You never have to pay for rent.
	You'd be around some really interesting people.
	You even get wifi.
	You don't have to think because your whole schedule is like built for you.
	And it's all paid for by taxpayers.
	And some of them be like, well, yeah, where do I sign up for that?
	Be like, just, you can go take a drive and we can be there pretty soon.
	You all know I'm describing federal prison, right?
	And that's what it is.
	I don't want to live in that society, right?
	I want to be able to have earned success.
	But that's what, socialism is a sister of prison.
	It is.
	Three meals a day, lodging paid for you, housing, but you're not free.
	And freedom is a value that unfortunately is being lost in society.
	I can go on at length about the Scandinavian countries.
	I've done that ad nauseum.
	If you guys are super interested, we'll send you more links on that as a follow-up.
	Yes, other questions on this topic?
	Communism, socialism, totalitarianism, collectivism?
	Yes, okay, next one.
	Okay, taxation, the silent thief of liberty.
	I got myself in trouble last year because I talked about inflation, which is true.
	But yes, just so you understand, the true thief is inflation.
	All of you are getting poorer every single month, every single year because of inflation.
	But yes, taxation is the taking of resources from a body politic.
	Under unreasonable means.
	Of course, there should be some form of taxation.
	The question is, what is fair, what is just?
	I think 10% across the board would be a great, kind of, maybe even national sales tax, whatever.
	I'm not here to say specific policy measures, but you should make, you should ask the argument, ask the question of a student on campus, whose money is it?
	Is it your money or the government's money?
	Very simple.
	And understand, they're such hypocrites, right?
	These leftists, they're saying, oh yeah, it's my body, my choice, my sovereignty, but is it your money or choice too?
	Because that's interesting.
	You want to take, like, 50% of my stuff, but you want to be able to, like, murder a baby in my womb, which is, like, really weird.
	Like, that's the only thing that you— Or, why is it that you were okay with kicking people out of the military for not taking a shot called a vaccine?
	But I thought it was my body, my choice.
	Anyway, separate issue on that.
	But taxation, silent thief of liberty, taxation is theft!
	And we should do everything we can to limit it, but the silent, silent killer right now is inflation.
	You increase the money supply, you destroy the value of the dollar, people's purchasing power nearly disappears.
	Questions?
	Yes?
	So I'll be working with high school students, and I know sometimes many high school curriculums don't cover the depth of what taxes really are, and many of them might have not worked significant enough jobs where they really see the difference in that.
	So how would you recommend reaching those students to really emphasize and get this point across?
	That's a good question.
	Probably, first of all, they are taxed before they even are able to vote, which is remarkable.
	I think in high school, probably doing the very old but effective grade redistribution story, which is A students have to give their grades to F students so that everyone becomes C students, and that is equity.
	I think that's probably effective for introductory high school kids.
	College kids, they might shrug that off, right?
	But everybody, and they'll say, well, that's not fair.
	So every taxation argument is a question of justice, is of what is fair, what is just, what is right, what is true.
	And yes, you should not take more from the high producers to subsidize the lazy low producers.
	I think that's probably the best way to discuss it.
	Other questions on this?
	Yes, one more.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Yes, sir.
	My name is Alexander Young.
	I'm with the Big Sky Territory.
	My question is, scripturally, we're told to give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and how can you juxtapose a statement that taxation is theft when, biblically, we are told to pay our taxes?
	Yeah, so that's a good question.
	That's not the totality of what Christ was saying, but yes.
	The question is, does the Bible support private property?
	And the answer is yes.
	Secondly, and I have to go back on this, it's been a long time, there's a phenomenal book I have to show you from Lawrence Reed, where he just goes through this, so I'll have to refer you to it, all about the render under Caesar what is Caesar's but understand
	what was the second part of that run render under God's what is God's
	so he's actually going even above Caesar saying that God is sovereign overall that's at least playing from my memory
	but let's go back into the Old Testament first of God's law here
	10 percent of everything to the government are at as a tie right was the kinda fair and form way
	But secondly, and most importantly, was this idea in the protection of private property, which the first real estate deal ever done in the history of the world was Abraham buying Hebron for the Hall of the Patriarchs in Israel.
	So, private property is fundamental to freedom, and if and when we do not have the ability of the agency to own property, then the government becomes bigger than the citizens.
	So, I'd have to refer you to that.
	It's a good question.
	Lawrence Reed has a great book on it from FEE, the Foundation for Economic Education.
	We'll get that sent to you.
	So, yeah, you bet.
	Veterans.
	Anyone a veteran here?
	Thank you.
	Well, there you go.
	Perfect segue.
	And thank you.
	Thank you for your service, guys.
	You should give it up for them.
	That's great.
	My own personal opinions here, not that of Turning Point USA.
	I think it's insane we keep on sending our best and brightest to no-win wars halfway across the world, and we can't secure our own border, and we have homeless veterans dying on our streets.
	I think it's a violation of the social contract, and I think we engage... I think the war industry is one of the great injustices of the modern American experiment.
	You do not have to agree with me.
	That's my own personal opinion.
	I do not think you can have a free society if you have a country that wants to go invade other societies saying that they aren't free when yourself cease to be free.
	You don't have to agree with me.
	That's fine.
	But I think neoliberalism has done a lot of damage to our best that want to actually serve this country.
	And we had a decision to make after the Cold War.
	We could have pursued peace and we could have de-escalated.
	Tensions with Russia and other countries.
	Instead, we decided to increase tensions.
	The war machine got humming.
	We never should have invaded Iraq.
	We never should have invaded... Well, the Afghanistan invasion was overdone.
	Never should have happened.
	And unfortunately, there's a lot of damage.
	I think a veteran... Where's Dan?
	Commits suicide every 13 minutes, right?
	Yeah.
	Am I wrong about that?
	21 minutes or something?
	Yeah, 22 minutes or something?
	Yeah.
	And that is almost solely because of this unrepentant war machine and this cult of death that calls themselves a military-industrial complex.
	You do not have to agree with that, but that's my take.
	I think that it's important to remember our veterans, but what are we doing to prevent the next one million people that go into a theater of war that are going to be dealing with mental health issues, anxiety, suicidal ideation, death, depression, broken families, all for what?
	What did we get out of the invasion of Iraq?
	The answer is a big nothing.
	Anyway, You don't have to rate that.
	Any thoughts, questions on foreign policy and stuff?
	Yes, ma'am.
	I'm Riley Ashby.
	David's like, say your name.
	Riley from Cascades.
	Do you have any good arguments?
	Because I'm from Oregon, so people aren't really super pro this.
	Pro-veterans?
	Yeah, like pro-respecting them.
	But they're pro-sending money to Ukraine, which is amazing.
	To let other people's veterans die for you, but not our own.
	Yeah, they are.
	But do you have any good arguments for, like, when people come up and say, like, they're murderers, like, how could you ever support them?
	Like, any good arguments?
	Yeah, of course.
	First of all, I just... Thankfully, I think we've turned that chapter that used to be the way we treated our veterans.
	I think we've largely... Have you guys agreed?
	Is that a common thing?
	I don't know that we've largely... Oregon's a bunch of wacky people.
	Yeah, I... You what?
	Yeah, you keep it very weird up there.
	So, killing is not murder.
	I know that's a complex argument that a leftist can't understand.
	Those are two different things, right?
	Killing is the taking of a life in a reasonable or justifiable way in self-defense.
	Actually, in the scriptures, there's two different words for killing and murder.
	Two completely different categorizations.
	And in the Ten Commandments, it's, thou shalt not murder, not thou shalt not kill.
	And then you should ask a question if they say this.
	Well, hold on a second.
	Is it ever right to kill?
	You should ask them that.
	And they'll say, oh no, it's never right to kill.
	Say, okay, if someone's coming after your pregnant wife with a chainsaw, you can't take out a gun and protect yourself?
	And so, I mean, the argument falls apart, you know, on its face value.
	And I think you should play off and say, wait a second, so the person who signs up and puts their life on the line to go fight for the country halfway around the world so that you can keep on, like, smoking weed on the streets of Portland is somehow the enemy?
	And you should say, you should direct all that anger that you think are the murderers to the current D.C.
	political class.
	That's who you should hate.
	You should not hate the rank-and-file that signed up with duty and service to serve this country while these other people are playing war games.
	So, I mean, I would try to redirect their anger towards the correct target.
	But I think that the anti-military stuff has largely faded.
	I could be wrong.
	I think that's... We've turned a page on that.
	Yes, ma'am.
	Okay, so I am... I'm trying to think of the best way to ask this question.
	So I'm a Christian, I'm pro-Israel, pro-veterans, my husband's a veteran, pro-military, but I generally don't... I believe we involve ourselves in wars we don't need to be involved in.
	Can you explain, like, personally against the Ukraine war, right, but can you explain to me why we should, and maybe this is like as a Christian specifically, but also as an American, be supportive of the Israel war?
	Because I have a hard time explaining that.
	Yes, the Israel War.
	So I'm very pro-Israel for multiple reasons.
	I'll tell you why in my personal opinion.
	Anyone been to Israel?
	A couple people?
	Yes, okay.
	So I believe the Bible is the most important document ever written.
	I believe proving the authenticity, the accuracy of the Bible is important for all of humanity.
	The only way that we're able to continue to prove, experience, and see the accuracy of the Bible is to be able to visit Israel and the archaeological sites and visit actually where the Bible occurred.
	That is only possible under the current kind of Israeli governmental structure.
	If the Islamic fundamentalists were to take over Israel, we would, as
	Christians, lose access to holy sites, archeological sites, and digs, which
	would then be a step forward in destroying the accuracy of the people's
	faith in the scriptures and the Bible.
	That is my number one and overarching belief.
	And that is not insignificant.
	If you are a Christian, you're able to go to Israel.
	You'll be able to go to Capernaum, go to Jerusalem.
	I am not an apologist for the Israeli government.
	Not really my thing.
	I'm an America First guy.
	However, I do think supporting Israel, secondly, against who I consider to be some of the most evil people on the planet, who are the, you know, Hamas Nazis.
	I hope they succeed.
	But yes, to be consistent though, we should be very careful about the amount of money, the amount of troops, the amount of entanglement, the amount of engagement, especially as our own country is largely collapsing.
	Next slide.
	This is the last one.
	Flag the classroom.
	There you go.
	Which is all about the American flag.
	This is mostly a high school thing, yeah?
	Mostly high school.
	Love it.
	It's also a way just to be super patriotic and try to restore... By the way, here's why I love this.
	It's a way to call out all that gay pride, like, flag stuff.
	And, like, why do they get a flag and, you know, the American flag is not able to fly, right?
	So I think that's a great way to push back against all that stuff and really show, you know, patriotism and love of country.
	All right, one or two in closing.
	Everybody?
	Anybody?
	We also recently the left freak out over this Project 2025 from the Heritage Foundation and how they tried to turn that into a national conversation.
	Yeah.
	I know with our mission we want to focus on the issues and the power players here at home.
	Is it ever appropriate to bring up things like the UN Sustainability Goals and their agenda 2030 that's kind of, I think, been pushed back since they've kind of been foiled a little bit.
	But those things really woke me up and kind of got me in the political movement because those things I can see in the future where that's headed.
	Is it ever appropriate to bring that up?
	Um, of course it is, but I'll just tell you, are you high school or college working in?
	High school?
	Yeah, they're not, they don't know what the UN is.
	So that's, uh, yeah, the, the, just so you guys understand, the, the political and educational knowledge of most students you deal with Is TikTok level, right?
	And so, but it's your job to build it up and to build awareness and to build, you know, educational viability.
	But yes, I think that it's all legitimate.
	I just, with some exceptions, some campuses are pretty great, but the lack of knowledge is pretty striking.
	However, they're very, very confident.
	That's a separate issue.
	Yes, sir and ma'am, then we'll close.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, sure.
	I think we're good on the flag.
	So I got through the presentation.
	I'm really proud of myself.
	Hey, so I'm in Alabama, Mississippi.
	Is there any specific advice you'd give to us sort of in red states as we move toward November for nonpartisan helping us as we move toward there?
	Yeah, your goal is beyond the election for sure, but just break complacency.
	Make people understand that they need to stay involved, stay active, you know, express their viewpoint and not just grow comfortable because they happen to be in the ideological majority.
	Okay, last question.
	Yes, ma'am.
	Hi, I just have a general question as well.
	My question is that you've seen a lot of people in your company come and go and become great leaders within your company and stuff.
	What is like one of the qualities that you would say do instill in us when we're going out on the field and like we're doing things, what can we do to be leaders and better voices on campus?
	I'll give you a couple things.
	You have a great attitude, which a lot of you have.
	Which is, even if it's a rainy day, you've got to drive far.
	You are how you act, not how you feel.
	Most important life, the sooner you learn that, the better life you'll have.
	How you feel is completely irrelevant.
	How you act matters.
	You'll be having a bad day.
	How you act to the external world actually matters.
	And guess what?
	You know the crazy thing?
	You start to feel how you act.
	That's what's really nuts.
	It's a hack of life that they'll never teach you in college.
	Like, oh, how do you feel?
	No, it's completely irrelevant.
	I don't care if you're sad.
	I don't care if you're depressed.
	How you act is actually how you end up becoming.
	It's very interesting.
	That's number one.
	It takes a long time to actually embody that.
	Number two, always tell the truth, right?
	That's super, super important.
	And then finally, you know, we have a high prize on creativity.
	People that Take risks, want to constantly push boundaries, go the extra mile.
	Obviously, our culture points are really important, but we're really proud that our entire leadership team has been hired from within, has grown from within, has come up through the ranks, and has built the most sizable and powerful field organization in the history of the country.
	Thanks, guys!
	Appreciate it!
	Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
	Email us, it's always freedom at charliekirk.com.
	Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

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