The Charlie Kirk Show - Biden Vote Regret, Dating the Enemy, and More
Aired: 2024-02-09
Duration: 32:21


=== Porn As A Drug Debate (13:56) ===

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[00:01:25]  You can still have a soulmate and a beautiful family and do porn.
[00:01:30]  So, Molly, I don't think you're right.
[00:01:36]  And if it works for you, then you will definitely defy the odds.
[00:01:40]  No, I think it does work.
[00:01:41]  I think it can be proven that you can.
[00:01:42]  I know for a fact it works.
[00:01:44]  I have friends with kids and like friends who are in relationships, getting married, and they're very prominent doing porn, other people, having orgies.
[00:01:53]  Let me tell you all that jazz.
[00:01:55]  Yeah, let me tell you a true story about a young lady who went to high school near here.
[00:02:01]  When she started to get 15, her mom was a porn actress.
[00:02:05]  And all the other boys would constantly tease her and bully her because they would show pictures of her naked mother.
[00:02:11]  And it really, really hurt her.
[00:02:12]  Do you ever wonder that for your future kids, they might have to be confronted by that or teased or ridiculed by your line of work?
[00:02:19]  I know they will be confronted with it, but there's so many ways to answer this question.
[00:02:24]  But honestly, for one, I don't really care because to me, the way that I look at it and the way that I'm going to raise my kids says a hell of a lot more to me about the child who is instigating negative emotions in my child because of what I do for work rather than my child minding their own business.
[00:02:43]  Do you ever worry that you might be producing content that could be seriously damaging other people?
[00:02:49]  No.
[00:02:50]  Okay.
[00:02:52]  Charlie, you were about to say a little earlier: if you could wipe the slate clean, what was the question you had there?
[00:02:58]  If you could wipe the slate theoretically and re-virginize yourself, and would you?
[00:03:06]  Could you go back to the person you were as a virgin?
[00:03:09]  No.
[00:03:10]  No.
[00:03:10]  I love who I am now.
[00:03:11]  I feel like everything happened for a reason.
[00:03:13]  And I, I don't know.
[00:03:15]  I love who I am now.
[00:03:16]  Would I take back the people that I did?
[00:03:19]  Probably.
[00:03:19]  But yeah, like you said, it made who I am.
[00:03:25]  So, no.
[00:03:28]  I think I would definitely do some things different.
[00:03:31]  It's kind of ironic because this probably isn't you're looking for.
[00:03:33]  But if I was to start again, I'd probably lose my virginity for porn and do more porn things earlier on.
[00:03:40]  But yeah, that's just me.
[00:03:41]  But there's definitely some body counts that I do regret, just one nice stands and all them lame things.
[00:03:46]  What about they did?
[00:03:47]  Did you regret just the one I stand?
[00:03:50]  They weren't worthy or.
[00:03:51]  Yeah, just like a bad time or like weird people or like, you know, you get too drunk and you get in a situation you can't really get out of and stuff like that.
[00:03:59]  And in terms of then, all the stuff I do for work, I love that because that's like an art form for me.
[00:04:03]  So, yeah.
[00:04:05]  I want to circle back to something you said earlier, where you said that Molly's children, hypothetical future children, could be confronted with like her work, right?
[00:04:14]  And I think that that is not, I don't think there's any career path that precludes your child from potentially being confronted with what their parents say.
[00:04:22]  Like, I know that you're involved in like political work and stuff like that.
[00:04:25]  Do you ever worry that things that you've said online or done or political actions that you've taken might be like your daughter might be confronted by them by somebody who has like somebody's kid who has an opposing point of view?
[00:04:34]  I feel like that would like give a worry about something like that.
[00:04:36]  Well, she'll definitely be confronted.
[00:04:38]  It's just not videos of me having sex online.
[00:04:41]  No, but you've said like tons of controversial things, right?
[00:04:45]  So, do you expect that any of that could like have negative effects on her well-being or like how she's raised or anything like that?
[00:04:51]  Or do you think, and I say controversial, like neutrally and descriptively, like objectively, if your views are polarizing, that's going to incite conversation, debate, discussion?
[00:05:00]  Do you ever worry about like kids confronting her with these things and her not being prepared to know how to answer them or maybe feeling like bullied or embarrassed?
[00:05:07]  Yeah, I mean, that's that's a factor of being in public life for sure.
[00:05:10]  Yeah, and hopefully, um, hopefully, I build her strong up enough to be able to endure that, right?
[00:05:15]  Then I bet Molly thinks probably the same thing, right?
[00:05:18]  Like, just that sort of resiliency.
[00:05:20]  Do you think public political commentary is morally on the same plane as filming yourself having sex?
[00:05:25]  Yes, yes.
[00:05:26]  Yeah, I think people, if anything, it could sometimes be worse depending on what the person is talking about.
[00:05:30]  You know, worse, okay.
[00:05:32]  I think politics is definitely heavier than porn.
[00:05:34]  You think politics does more damage than porn?
[00:05:37]  For the actual life, like the world, yes.
[00:05:41]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:05:42]  Her having sex with other men is not disrupting the world.
[00:05:45]  Well, not just sex, but filming it in December.
[00:05:47]  I think you have disrupting the world.
[00:05:49]  And it gives them a release of their semen that they can't control stuff then, so they go jerk off to meet the molybden.
[00:05:58]  We're helping them.
[00:06:00]  Also, I feel like it's their choice to watch.
[00:06:02]  So, it's you know, it's not.
[00:06:03]  Well, I was also gonna ask how kids would know that someone's mom is a porn star.
[00:06:09]  How would they know that?
[00:06:10]  Internet's forever.
[00:06:12]  Yeah, but internet.
[00:06:14]  But why are I obviously kids?
[00:06:16]  It would be a parental failure, basically.
[00:06:18]  Like, the parents are not monitoring their child's consumption of media good enough, and therefore they find porn.
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[00:07:35]  Absolutely.
[00:07:35]  Go ahead.
[00:07:36]  Go ahead.
[00:07:36]  Molly, I have sympathy for you.
[00:07:38]  I do.
[00:07:38]  You're trying to cope with the suppression of your soul.
[00:07:42]  And filming yourself having sex with other men and filming it is not the highest and best use of the talents that God gave you.
[00:07:48]  It's not.
[00:07:50]  That is a talent God gave me.
[00:07:52]  Well, it's not the highest and best use, and it's not a talent because, as I said, in my belief, it is should that should be saved in a sacred domain.
[00:07:58]  We're not going to agree on that.
[00:07:59]  But I hope you change course.
[00:08:02]  I think you'll be happier and more joyful, and I pray you don't have to suffer too much to realize that.
[00:08:06]  Well, in my belief, this is my most happy and joyful.
[00:08:11]  So, if Molly made like a huge pivot and started doing politics, would you support her political runs and bibs?
[00:08:16]  It's not a matter of politics.
[00:08:17]  I mean, I just want what's best for all of you here.
[00:08:21]  And I don't think filming yourself having sex with men is the highest and best use of your talents.
[00:08:26]  In fact, I think it personally has done a lot of damage to a lot of young men.
[00:08:31]  And don't take my word for it.
[00:08:32]  Look, you can read the book by Gary Wilson, Your Brain on Porn.
[00:08:35]  It is the number one drug in America right now, and it impacts men.
[00:08:39]  It definitely isn't healthy.
[00:08:41]  Okay, so it's not healthy.
[00:08:42]  So we agree.
[00:08:42]  So let me ask a moral question.
[00:08:44]  What do you guys think of drug dealers that push fentanyl?
[00:08:48]  Good people or not good people.
[00:08:50]  Probably not good.
[00:08:51]  Not good people.
[00:08:51]  So if we agree that porn is a drug, hold on, hold on a second.
[00:08:56]  If porn is a drug, how is Molly not either a drug dealer or a drug manufacturer?
[00:09:02]  It's different levels of fentanyl.
[00:09:04]  There's so many other drugs.
[00:09:05]  Like weed is not fentanyl.
[00:09:08]  Weed's mine.
[00:09:09]  We agree.
[00:09:09]  Well, I wouldn't say weed is fine, but it is not as bad as fentanyl.
[00:09:13]  But there's different levels of data.
[00:09:16]  Do you believe porn is a drug?
[00:09:18]  I think it's an addiction.
[00:09:19]  A drug is a nothing.
[00:09:22]  So what does porn do to the male mind?
[00:09:25]  I don't know.
[00:09:25]  I'm not a male.
[00:09:26]  Okay.
[00:09:26]  Okay, yeah.
[00:09:26]  It is the same biochemical release as cocaine.
[00:09:29]  It's almost identical.
[00:09:30]  In fact, it's even more powerful at times.
[00:09:32]  Not to mention the damage it does to their relationships and how it has to rewire their brain.
[00:09:36]  That goes without saying.
[00:09:37]  But I don't really see the comparison with fentanyl and porn, though, because fentanyl actually kills people and is highly addictive.
[00:09:47]  So I know right now, currently, like porn addiction is not recognized in the DSM-5 as a legitimate addiction.
[00:09:52]  The only behavioral-based addiction would be drug addiction, something like fentanyl or whatever.
[00:09:56]  Every other type of addiction is something that's like that you can't, or sorry, not drug-based, gambling.
[00:10:01]  That's what it is.
[00:10:02]  Gambling addiction is very real, but I don't believe porn addiction is.
[00:10:05]  I think you can have impulse control issues with porn, but that would be like any other thing that you could have difficulty controlling your consumption of.
[00:10:13]  Go ahead, Molly.
[00:10:14]  Please.
[00:10:14]  So my question is: I kind of have a comparison of my own, and I'll try and sum this up as fast as I can.
[00:10:20]  But basically, when prohibition happened, you know, people said that alcohol, it was not good for you.
[00:10:27]  It led to deaths, it led to arguments, negative things, whatever.
[00:10:31]  Prohibition happened.
[00:10:33]  People still found ways to have parties with alcohol, drink alcohol, speakeasies existed.
[00:10:40]  The only thing that happened was people didn't stop drinking alcohol.
[00:10:43]  People started getting arrested and punished for it.
[00:10:45]  And it started ruining people's livelihoods in that way instead of in a way that they have control over, meaning that they can stop the addiction by getting help at any time.
[00:10:57]  So my question is: if you think porn is so bad, like an addiction like that, what's your solution?
[00:11:04]  Because if you're going to get rid of it, it's still going to exist.
[00:11:06]  Well, the first solution, I mean, can you at least agree, Molly, that minors shouldn't be viewing porn?
[00:11:11]  Of course.
[00:11:12]  Okay, good.
[00:11:15]  Well, the age verification is a little problem.
[00:11:17]  Yeah, it is.
[00:11:18]  So let's talk about that.
[00:11:19]  Utah and Texas passed laws that Pornhub sued that made it more robust.
[00:11:23]  You had to actually provide an ID, and Pornhub didn't like that because they said it would limit their traffic.
[00:11:30]  So would you all agree that if there was robust ID checking that would like 18, we can at least agree we could draw the line there?
[00:11:36]  Yeah, I feel like that's the normal age.
[00:11:38]  Okay.
[00:11:39]  I'm glad to hear that.
[00:11:42]  So on the other side, though, I mean, I think we have to acknowledge that the average American male spending anywhere between 45 minutes to 90 minutes on porn websites, it varies.
[00:11:53]  I mean, this is a new phenomenon, and I just want to reiterate it, that highly interactive, three-dimensional video that triggers dopaminergic responses in the brain is unlike anything we've encountered.
[00:12:06]  The science is still being studied, and Gary Wilson's book is phenomenal on this.
[00:12:10]  You are brain on porn.
[00:12:12]  In fact, it is the most used, let's just say product.
[00:12:15]  We don't have to say drug, product for young men in this country.
[00:12:18]  And I guess you would all say that, let me just ask, how many of you are thrilled with the status of American men?
[00:12:25]  You think that they're strong and confident and they tell the truth?
[00:12:28]  I love an American mom as an Irish girl.
[00:12:30]  Definitely.
[00:12:31]  Okay, well then, you're the exception of the people.
[00:12:32]  They're all Americans are silent.
[00:12:33]  Okay, but hold on.
[00:12:36]  And I'm not going to say it's only because of porn because that would not be fair.
[00:12:39]  But porn consumption does not make better men.
[00:12:42]  No.
[00:12:42]  You agree?
[00:12:43]  I agree 100%.
[00:12:44]  So that's where I'm just trying to introduce into the conversation.
[00:12:47]  You said, what is the solution?
[00:12:49]  So I would just say, Molly, my advice, my ask for you is, you know, for people to stop participating in it, for that's not going to happen because the money is so good.
[00:12:58]  But we should draw the line at 18.
[00:13:00]  There should even be, it should be very, very hard to access.
[00:13:03]  But to your point, Molly, you're not wrong.
[00:13:04]  People would always find it.
[00:13:06]  But we should try to draw a line in the sand somewhere, especially with minors or have some sort of, you know, we should have some sort of acknowledgement that this is destroying parts of society.
[00:13:16]  And I won't say it's worse than fentanyl, but in some ways it's very, very sneaky.
[00:13:20]  A lot of married men watch pornography.
[00:13:22]  As I said, I've had my own personal struggles with it.
[00:13:24]  It's incredibly addictive.
[00:13:25]  It's incredibly powerful.
[00:13:28]  It also creates depressive effects in about half of the men that consume pornography.
[00:13:32]  And I would just say that, you know, young ladies, it affects women differently than men.
[00:13:37]  Men are 50 times more visual-oriented than women.
[00:13:40]  And that's not to say that women don't consume pornography.
[00:13:43]  They do in increasingly higher rates.
[00:13:45]  But I think it's a social toxin right now.
[00:13:53]  Hi, I'm Adriana, a politics major at Hillsdale College.

=== Dating And Political Differences (14:55) ===

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[00:14:00]  America's founders recognized an obvious fact of life.
[00:14:03]  Human beings differ in terms of physical attributes and talents.
[00:14:06]  Because of this, some people will be better at some things than they are at others.
[00:14:10]  But they also recognize that the tall and the short among us, the swift and the slow among us, are still human beings if we are recognizable as human beings.
[00:14:18]  And therefore, we are equal in terms of the rights that pertain to human beings.
[00:14:23]  Rights attached to human nature, rights that come from God.
[00:14:26]  The Declaration of Independence names three of the big ones.
[00:14:29]  Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
[00:14:31]  Exercising these rights is necessary if we are to be truly free.
[00:14:35]  In our own time, many influential people believe that only government can decide what our rights should be.
[00:14:40]  This is dangerous.
[00:14:41]  Understanding our rights and how the Constitution protects them is vital to our freedom.
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[00:14:53]  Wait, I have a question for you, actually, just because I don't really know who you are, but there's like a lot of people who are in the world.
[00:14:57]  You're very lucky.
[00:14:58]  You're very lucky.
[00:15:00]  I was just like, what do you do?
[00:15:01]  Because I've seen, like, you've mentioned politics and now that, like, what do you do?
[00:15:04]  I run an organization called Turning Point USA.
[00:15:07]  I am a conservative, if you haven't figured that out.
[00:15:10]  And a Christian, and I host a three-hour show every day in my name.
[00:15:14]  Okay, cool.
[00:15:15]  Yeah.
[00:15:16]  Let's.
[00:15:17]  I envy you that you don't know.
[00:15:18]  But yes, I'm sorry.
[00:15:20]  Totally fine.
[00:15:20]  Let's switch gears a little bit here.
[00:15:22]  So going around the table, asking all the girls here, would you date someone who does not align with your politics?
[00:15:29]  So if you're a liberal, would you date a conservative?
[00:15:31]  If you're conservative, would you date a liberal?
[00:15:33]  If you're a communist, would you date an anarcho-capitalist?
[00:15:36]  I guess, I don't know.
[00:15:38]  So tell us what your political orientation is going around the table and if you would date somebody who differed from you politically.
[00:15:46]  And if so, why not?
[00:15:47]  Starting with you, go ahead.
[00:15:50]  Honestly, I feel like it wouldn't be that big of a decision for me.
[00:15:56]  I wouldn't mind.
[00:15:57]  I feel like I'm not that strict about certain things.
[00:16:02]  And I feel like if I want to be with him, I'll be with him and accept him for whatever it is.
[00:16:07]  And maybe even try to, I guess.
[00:16:12]  Well, no, we can't agree to disagree.
[00:16:14]  I feel like on certain things I might actually.
[00:16:18]  I'm too indecisive.
[00:16:19]  Never mind.
[00:16:19]  Where do you fall politically?
[00:16:21]  Undefined.
[00:16:23]  Okay.
[00:16:23]  Undefined.
[00:16:24]  I'm not going to say it.
[00:16:26]  Okay.
[00:16:28]  Anarchy, anarchist, maybe?
[00:16:30]  I don't know.
[00:16:31]  Not even a hint.
[00:16:33]  Maybe you guys can pick up randomly.
[00:16:35]  Okay.
[00:16:36]  That'd be fun.
[00:16:37]  Communist?
[00:16:38]  I don't know.
[00:16:38]  Okay, Aaron.
[00:16:39]  What about you?
[00:16:39]  What about you?
[00:16:40]  Yeah, I'm fine dating somebody who disagrees with me politically.
[00:16:43]  I already do.
[00:16:43]  My boyfriend's like a liberal, you know, which is a filthy, filthy liberal, even though I'm further left than him, but I love him in spite of that.
[00:16:50]  Oh, wow.
[00:16:51]  Okay.
[00:16:52]  So if you were to put a word to how you would describe yourself politically, are you a leftist?
[00:16:57]  Yeah, I'd say I'm on the left.
[00:16:59]  And your boyfriend's liberal.
[00:17:00]  Okay.
[00:17:01]  What about him?
[00:17:03]  It kind of depends how I honestly on both sides, it depends how hardcore they are because a lot of hardcore stuff like that I don't even agree with like on both sides.
[00:17:16]  So it would kind of depend on like what they believe in or like how hardcore they are with it.
[00:17:22]  But I think I could.
[00:17:23]  I don't really, I mean, I'm always down to have like discussions and conversations.
[00:17:28]  So I think I could.
[00:17:29]  As for my like political, I don't really care.
[00:17:33]  You don't care?
[00:17:34]  I would say I'm like in the middle, honestly.
[00:17:36]  Who did you vote for in the last election?
[00:17:40]  Or did you vote?
[00:17:41]  Most people don't vote for you.
[00:17:43]  I regret my vote now, but we can find an unfortunate.
[00:17:48]  Kanye?
[00:17:49]  You voted for Kanye?
[00:17:51]  That would have been a better choice, honestly.
[00:17:53]  No, I voted for Biden, unfortunately.
[00:17:56]  And you regret that?
[00:17:57]  I do.
[00:17:58]  Why do you regret that?
[00:17:59]  Do you see the state of the world?
[00:18:01]  I mean, like...
[00:18:04]  That's why I'm just in the middle.
[00:18:06]  Do you want to share?
[00:18:07]  I agree with stuff on both sides.
[00:18:09]  Good for you.
[00:18:10]  Pixie, what about you?
[00:18:11]  I'm a progressive.
[00:18:14]  My last date actually lasted 20 minutes because of this.
[00:18:18]  Wait, we have the tweets.
[00:18:19]  Nick, pull up her tweets really quick.
[00:18:20]  I saw your tweets.
[00:18:21]  The receipts.
[00:18:23]  Nick, go ahead.
[00:18:25]  Okay, I'm convinced I have to move to Miami so I can actually find someone to date next.
[00:18:32]  Today, my date lasted a total of 20 minutes because we found out the next.
[00:18:39]  At least it was a mutual decision on both of ours.
[00:18:41]  I'd rather figure out long-term incompatibility quickly than waste each other's time.
[00:18:46]  So on that date of yours where you were out on a date with a conservative man, who, like, was it kind of, you said it was a mutual thing, but was it more so you who had an issue with it?
[00:18:55]  Was it him?
[00:18:56]  Or it was mutual?
[00:18:57]  It was pretty darn mutual.
[00:18:58]  Like, what happened was we were in the car, we were going to go to a bar, and he asked me what I did for work.
[00:19:03]  So then I started talking about it, and he was like, would it bother you if I'm a hardcore conservative?
[00:19:09]  And then I was like, I was like, well, what do you mean by that?
[00:19:13]  Because some people are like, I'm a hardcore conservative.
[00:19:15]  And what they mean is like smaller government and less taxes, which is, you know, something I can like deal with.
[00:19:21]  And then some people are like, oh, you know, like Nick Fuentes style, like, Neo-Nazi, you know, like, so I asked him, and he actually, he actually said he was a huge fan of yours, which is like fine.
[00:19:34]  That's a deal killer.
[00:19:36]  Charlie.
[00:19:37]  Oh, okay, okay.
[00:19:38]  But no.
[00:19:40]  No, no, no.
[00:19:41]  But, and he was saying, like, oh, you know, I just like, I'm really.
[00:19:46]  Did he actually say that?
[00:19:47]  Yeah.
[00:19:48]  I like this.
[00:19:50]  But he was like, I'm just like really hardcore conservative.
[00:19:53]  And I was like, well, honestly, at this point, I feel like I would make you more upset than you make me upset.
[00:19:59]  And then you think so?
[00:20:01]  It seems to me the case.
[00:20:03]  It seems to me that typically it's liberals who are not prepared to be friends with conservatives.
[00:20:08]  I actually think they've done studies on this.
[00:20:10]  It's conservatives typically, from what I've seen, tend to, while they disagree ideologically, liberals just will outright hate somebody who's conservative and think they're like evil.
[00:20:22]  I think no, I don't like that.
[00:20:24]  I want to get to be friends with them so I can convert them into my leftist ideology.
[00:20:28]  How is my supposed to convert them?
[00:20:30]  Yeah, I come from a conservative family.
[00:20:33]  I have a lot of close friends that are conservative.
[00:20:36]  So to me, that's like, I'm not new to disagreeing with people.
[00:20:40]  That's just part of life for me.
[00:20:43]  But yeah, it's just like, I'm okay dating somebody who believes in like some different things than me.
[00:20:48]  It just depends on what extent.
[00:20:50]  Like, for example, if I want to have children in the future, and if my child, let's say, comes out as gay and my partner is like, we have to send them to conversion therapy.
[00:21:00]  To me, that's like a hard line.
[00:21:02]  To me, that's like, no, like, I couldn't put my children.
[00:21:05]  We can maybe come back to that specific thing.
[00:21:08]  But just curious, how did you meet him?
[00:21:11]  Oh, Hinge.
[00:21:12]  You met him on the internet?
[00:21:14]  Doesn't it allow you to disclose your political leanings on?
[00:21:16]  Yeah, I disclosed mine.
[00:21:17]  He didn't disclose his.
[00:21:19]  Okay.
[00:21:19]  So where did he go on the data?
[00:21:21]  Yeah, if he had such a big issue with it.
[00:21:23]  Well, okay.
[00:21:24]  We'll continue going around.
[00:21:26]  And then, did you have anything in response to her, Charlie?
[00:21:29]  No, I actually think you guys made the right choice, believe it or not.
[00:21:32]  I think you have to have value alignment.
[00:21:33]  I think you have to have worldview harmony and that you shouldn't date or marry people.
[00:21:37]  I mean, you have kids.
[00:21:39]  Are you going to have kids?
[00:21:40]  Or are you going to raise them religious?
[00:21:42]  I mean, just the amount of daily questions that come up in a marriage is, I mean, it's 500 a day.
[00:21:48]  And if you see the world differently, then that's a recipe for disaster.
[00:21:52]  So I actually think you guys made the right challenge.
[00:21:53]  I think you should end up, if you want to, if you end up marrying somebody who sees the world the way you do.
[00:21:58]  Yeah.
[00:21:58]  It would make you a happier marriage.
[00:22:00]  What if it was just one issue?
[00:22:01]  Like if I'm assuming that you're anti-choice, right?
[00:22:04]  Or pro-life?
[00:22:05]  Yeah, pro-life.
[00:22:06]  Okay, so if your wife is not pro-life, but everything else, you guys agree, would that be a deal breaker for you?
[00:22:11]  That one would be a deal breaker, yeah, because that's not like taxes, right?
[00:22:15]  That's not like, hey, you know, I believe in a 35% tax rate and I believe in a 20% tax rate.
[00:22:21]  It's like philosophical bearings.
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[00:23:30]  I think I saw this.
[00:23:30]  Young women are becoming dramatically left-wing.
[00:23:32]  Young men are becoming more right-wing.
[00:23:35]  This is happening on every continent.
[00:23:37]  There's South Korea, U.S., Germany, UK.
[00:23:41]  Scroll down just a tad so we can see the UK here.
[00:23:48]  Okay.
[00:23:49]  So I'm curious why, and I'd love to, I mean this like non-sarcastically, I'd love to learn why do you think that trend is?
[00:23:56]  I think it's because one side wait, okay, so left is so I am not like politics.
[00:24:02]  That's all right.
[00:24:03]  So young women are getting more in like the Joe Biden direction of the Democrat Party.
[00:24:08]  Progressive.
[00:24:09]  Okay.
[00:24:09]  And young men are coming more, you could say, in the Trump conservative direction.
[00:24:13]  I think it's more of that reason because obviously the like the Biden side or whatever you want to say, that side has more of like women's like rights and stuff.
[00:24:24]  So obviously like, well, not right now, but like just in general, like that, the ideas of like that side have more like pro-women things and the other side really doesn't.
[00:24:37]  So I think that's why.
[00:24:39]  I'm going to ask my young progressive organizer.
[00:24:42]  Why do you think, because it's something that is.
[00:24:45]  I personally don't think it's very valuable to ask people to label themselves politically, mostly because if somebody does that, what I want them to do is like write it down on a piece of paper and then crumple it up and throw it away.
[00:24:54]  And usually just go issue by issue because I found that when you ask people what they mean by a conservative or whatever, like Pixie was saying earlier, sometimes they'll say, oh, like low taxes, small government or whatever.
[00:25:05]  But these are very nebulous terms.
[00:25:06]  But when you actually get into it, maybe they describe themselves as conservative, but more of the libertarian type.
[00:25:11]  So they might be pro-choice still.
[00:25:13]  They might actually be interested in a less interventionist foreign policy.
[00:25:18]  And then at that point, those are some like liberal tenants to me.
[00:25:20]  So I don't think it's very useful to even try to have people do that.
[00:25:24]  Or you might even find some liberals that are like anti-union, for example.
[00:25:28]  Yeah.
[00:25:29]  I was going to say, personally, I think there has been a big push to radicalize young men online.
[00:25:36]  You see this with the Tates.
[00:25:38]  You see this in some other forms of media.
[00:25:40]  So I think young men in particular have been very, what is it called?
[00:25:45]  Specialized.
[00:25:46]  You have these giant propaganda centers and networks focusing on trying to radicalize them in a way that they haven't necessarily put the equal focus on women.
[00:25:53]  So I do think that there's been a lot of online radicalization going on.
[00:25:57]  I also think, personally, I'm a feminist, but I think there has, like, feminism has kind of left men behind and kind of has not given them the answers that a lot of them are necessarily seeking.
[00:26:09]  So then they turn into these more of what I would call toxic figures instead for guidance.
[00:26:15]  So that's my answer when it comes to this increased radicalization.
[00:26:22]  What could conservatives do better to reach young women?
[00:26:25]  What could conservatives do?
[00:26:26]  It's not a trip-trap question.
[00:26:27]  I'm honestly curious.
[00:26:29]  I kind of don't want to give you that.
[00:26:31]  Well, I'll give you the answer.
[00:26:32]  Oh, it's a secret restriction.
[00:26:33]  No, I'm going to give you a question.
[00:26:35]  You're going to give it in front of 5 million people.
[00:26:38]  No, but I think a lot of conservatives really villainize young women and the choices that they take.
[00:26:45]  You see this, not in this particular podcast necessarily, but there's some that are more extreme than this that really focus on shaming women or putting some basically cultural hypocrisy, like saying it's okay for men to be promiscuous while women aren't.
[00:27:00]  Group 1 alone supports donated $200.
[00:27:03]  Thank you, Good.
[00:27:03]  I would not say young men have been radicalized.
[00:27:06]  I would say that young men are being reminded they are men and not women, and that real men value women because we are not equal.
[00:27:14]  Yo, thank you, Goodman.
[00:27:15]  Appreciate it.
[00:27:15]  Go ahead, Pixie.
[00:27:16]  And if you can, make your point quickly, because I do want to bring in everybody else so they can answer the original question.
[00:27:22]  Go ahead.
[00:27:22]  Yeah, but long story short, I think trying to not be hypocritical about how we treat men and women and not necessarily shaming women for their past or how they currently are is probably a better way to reach to them, my humble opinion.
[00:27:36]  Okay.
[00:27:37]  Okay, so honestly, I'm not too educated on politics that I can say I'm one thing.
[00:27:43]  Sure.
[00:27:43]  But I do think that my views do lean more progressive.
[00:27:48]  But again, I'm not too educated on the topic.
[00:27:51]  But I think I could date someone.
[00:27:55]  I have dated someone who was conservative.
[00:27:59]  But for me, it's more there's make or breaks, like you were saying about if your wife was pro-choice and you are not, that would be something that I could be like, oh, you know, that's where I draw the line.
[00:28:12]  Just certain things that, you know, morally, I could not be with someone who had those views.
[00:28:18]  What about you?
[00:28:19]  I'm not really big into politics either.
[00:28:21]  I don't really understand it.
[00:28:22]  All I know is that I'm pro-choice.
[00:28:25]  I like equality.
[00:28:27]  But yeah, I don't know.
[00:28:28]  I do agree, though, that you partner, you need to have the similar mindset.
[00:28:33]  So it might be a bit difficult if I was to be with somebody that had a very strong political opinion.
[00:28:39]  Usually I just go for people that are quite open-minded and chill.
[00:28:42]  But I think I could be open still because I like to learn new things when I'm with partners.
[00:28:46]  So it could open my mind even a bit more.
[00:28:49]  And I could probably learn about politics then.
[00:28:51]  Molly, what about you?

=== Finding Open Minded Partners (03:28) ===

[00:28:52]  Well, I kind of, I agree with what you said.
[00:28:54]  I've actually, my ex-boyfriend was very prominent in politics and he's very conservative.
[00:29:00]  And I'm not at all.
[00:29:04]  So that was definitely like an interesting dynamic.
[00:29:07]  But I think overall we like really like respected each other's perspective.
[00:29:15]  And, you know, I don't think that like conservatives are evil or like they have like a bad agenda.
[00:29:22]  I just personally like I don't agree with what they would decide for me.
[00:29:31]  And so I think that in a relationship when you're with someone that shares different values, it would be extremely hard to be married to someone for the rest of your life.
[00:29:39]  It's doable, especially, you know, if you have that type of curiosity with the other person, but I for sure would want to be with someone who shares my kind of openness as well.
[00:29:51]  Okay.
[00:29:53]  And then Charlie, I think you kind of maybe already went over it, but I mean, do you have any thoughts on, you know, do you think it's a better idea for people when it comes to relationships or marriage to, I mean, I think I have a sense of what your answer would be, but to marry someone who shares their same political beliefs.
[00:30:10]  Yeah, don't try to change your partner.
[00:30:13]  That's a bad idea.
[00:30:14]  Agree.
[00:30:14]  Yeah, don't try to change your partner.
[00:30:16]  Don't.
[00:30:17]  Aaron, you said earlier your boyfriend, you said he's, well, he's not conservative, but he's liberal and you're much further left.
[00:30:24]  You're leftist.
[00:30:26]  And you said you would, you know, when it comes to perhaps people, you would be friends with someone who's maybe more conservative, so you can shift them more left.
[00:30:33]  I said that's a chic, but I was going to ask, have you shifted your boyfriend more left?
[00:30:40]  Okay, so he's pretty firm in his life.
[00:30:42]  He's firmly planted in his filthy, filthy liberalism, but I love him in spite of that.
[00:30:45]  I see.
[00:30:46]  Okay, got it.
[00:30:47]  But we align on a lot of social issues.
[00:30:49]  So if we want to create a dichotomy of social and not economic issues, I feel like the economic issues is primarily where we have disagreement.
[00:30:55]  And the social issues, those tend to be, I feel like, the most polarizing and contentious.
[00:30:59]  So if we had more disagreement there, we probably would not be able to be in a relationship together harmoniously.
[00:31:04]  Okay, I see.
[00:31:05]  But friends, yeah.
[00:31:06]  I'm open to radicalizing them, sure.
[00:31:08]  Okay, got it.
[00:31:09]  Got it.
[00:31:10]  So who here, I'm curious, who here considers themselves a feminist?
[00:31:15]  Maybe just show of hands.
[00:31:16]  Are you a feminist?
[00:31:18]  I don't.
[00:31:19]  That's it.
[00:31:20]  Just Aaron and Pixie?
[00:31:22]  Molly?
[00:31:23]  Yeah, Molly.
[00:31:23]  A little bit?
[00:31:24]  Okay.
[00:31:25]  All right.
[00:31:26]  So Charlie, we've got some feminists here.
[00:31:30]  What do you think of feminism?
[00:31:32]  I want them to define the term first, because there's no use in me giving thoughts on an abstract concept.
[00:31:38]  Sure.
[00:31:40]  What's your sense?
[00:31:40]  How do you define feminism?
[00:31:42]  Feminism is just simply the advocacy of equality, both social, political, economic, on the basis of all genders everywhere.
[00:31:50]  So that's what feminism is to me.
[00:31:52]  Do you concur?
[00:31:53]  I concur.
[00:31:54]  Do you concur?
[00:31:55]  Concurred.
[00:31:56]  Okay.
[00:31:57]  Okay.
[00:31:58]  So you want me to agree with their definition of feminism?
[00:32:04]  I mean, that would probably be the most agreed upon definition.
[00:32:07]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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