The Charlie Kirk Show - The Left’s America: No Border, No Dollar, No God — LIVE at Harvest Church Miami
Aired: 2023-10-15
Duration: 01:32:10


=== Next World Focus (13:49) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey everybody, my conversation at Harvest Church in Miami.
[00:00:04]  They do a great job and we talk about Israel, Marxism, the flight from Cuba and more.
[00:00:09]  That is Harvest Church in Miami.
[00:00:12]  They do such a beautiful job.
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[00:00:30]  Happy Sunday, everybody.
[00:00:31]  Enjoy this episode.
[00:00:32]  Buckle up, everybody.
[00:00:32]  Here we go.
[00:00:34]  Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
[00:00:35]  Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
[00:00:37]  I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
[00:00:41]  Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
[00:00:44]  I want to thank Charlie.
[00:00:45]  He's an incredible guy.
[00:00:46]  His spirit, his love of this country.
[00:00:48]  He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
[00:00:55]  We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
[00:01:03]  That's why we are here.
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[00:01:16]  Hey, everybody, thank you.
[00:01:17]  Thank you.
[00:01:22]  Welcome to the 305.
[00:01:24]  Thank you.
[00:01:24]  This is amazing on such short notice.
[00:01:27]  It was on, I think, Friday our team reached out to you.
[00:01:30]  Yeah.
[00:01:31]  And I don't sit still well.
[00:01:33]  I have a whole week here planned in Florida.
[00:01:36]  And I noticed that I had an empty evening.
[00:01:39]  So I could just kind of be sitting around or I could be, you know, talking about current events.
[00:01:43]  And unfortunately, tragically, very fitting to be in a synagogue right now, considering what happened over the weekend.
[00:01:51]  So honor to be here, blessed to be here, and lots to go over.
[00:01:54]  And if we have time, we'll do some questions from the audience.
[00:01:56]  That's right.
[00:01:56]  Well, we thank you.
[00:01:58]  And I think those applauses mean just a fraction of what you mean to all of us, being so brave and courageous and speaking the things that resonate true with us.
[00:02:08]  And we can stand with you because we know that you stand for what is true and what is right.
[00:02:14]  And in this church, we proclaim the word of God.
[00:02:18]  And so one of the things that I think would be great to kind of open up our conversation is this idea, I think as a pastor, I would assume the responsibility that the reason why the darkness is so dark and why the contamination is so spread so much is it's the fault of the church being engaged in our civic duty in places of influence.
[00:02:46]  Could you speak a bit about that and to kind of warm us up into the conversation?
[00:02:51]  Why is your voice so necessary today more than ever?
[00:02:54]  Well, yeah, and it's, I don't even consider it to be my voice.
[00:02:58]  I'm not a pastor.
[00:02:59]  I'm not a theologian.
[00:03:00]  I'm just a Bible-believing church attending Christian who loves Jesus, loves the country, loves liberty, and is sick and tired of seeing all those things under attack every single day from our government And from within, perfectly honest.
[00:03:14]  And I also hate evil.
[00:03:15]  I hate what we saw this last weekend.
[00:03:17]  I hate the evil we're seeing in our own country.
[00:03:20]  And we have to do a much better job of repudiating evil in this country.
[00:03:24]  And so I got my career started organizing on high school and college campuses.
[00:03:29]  And never did I imagine that I would be kind of working in the church space.
[00:03:34]  But COVID really opened my eyes to a lot of different things.
[00:03:36]  I was so shocked and surprised when I saw churches completely and totally locked down.
[00:03:43]  When I saw churches kind of go along with the local government or state government or federal government mandates, when we had an opportunity for one of the greatest revivals and harvests in our country's history, you know, we saw suicides go up and alcoholism go up and isolation and loneliness go up.
[00:04:01]  And the church just kind of laid locked down, laid over and locked down.
[00:04:05]  And I was speechless when I saw the church, which is the light of the world, become an extension of a tyrannical secular government saying that, you know, Romans 13, we're not allowed to be open.
[00:04:19]  And then on top of that, we saw all the race politics that occurred in the summer of 2020 when we burned down our country due to a lie from the pit of hell that we're systemically racist.
[00:04:30]  And the church is, the church needs to continue to be the moral light and the moral corrective tool of a society.
[00:04:39]  When the church is silent, then who is to say what is right or wrong?
[00:04:44]  And we, you know, Alexander Solshenitsyn, who's one of my favorite authors, he wrote a book called the Gulag Archipelago.
[00:04:50]  He basically summarized what happened in the Soviet Union: 60 million people killed.
[00:04:55]  And that sounds like just a number, but then you watch the videos of what just happened in Israel this last weekend, you realize these are moms and dads and daughters and sisters, the brutality and the horror.
[00:05:06]  And he said, all of this happened.
[00:05:08]  All of the tragedy of the Soviet Union can be summarized because people forgot God.
[00:05:13]  That's right.
[00:05:13]  All of it.
[00:05:14]  And if you listen to what happens on college campuses, so I go to campuses so you don't have to, or if you listen to what happens in popular society, they're always telling us that religious fundamentalism is the worst thing that could happen.
[00:05:29]  If I go to a campus, they say there's nothing worse than someone being too extreme in their religion.
[00:05:34]  And never once do they ever talk about being too extreme in their secularism.
[00:05:40]  Being too extreme in your godlessness has actually killed more people than being extreme in your religion.
[00:05:47]  And the Soviet Union, Mao's China, Nazi Germany.
[00:05:51]  And we as Christians must understand the Western world was largely built by Christians for the free society that we all enjoy, Judeo-Christian values that we talk about.
[00:06:02]  And we're seeing it collapse from within itself right now.
[00:06:06]  And, you know, Nietzsche said in the late 1800s, God is dead.
[00:06:09]  He did not say that in a celebration way, by the way.
[00:06:11]  You've heard that phrase, God is dead.
[00:06:13]  He was lamenting.
[00:06:14]  He said, oh my, Western civilization is about to fall.
[00:06:18]  This is the late 1800s, that Western civilization is about to fall apart because when you lose that belief in a higher power, what replaces it?
[00:06:27]  You know what replaces it?
[00:06:28]  LGBT, Black Lives Matter, the cult of Anthony Fauci.
[00:06:34]  People replace it with these fake pagan religions, which I think is a really important thing to talk about because it's something that Jews and Christians have in common, which is there's some differences between Jews and Christians, but Jews and Christians both believe in ethical monotheism and rejecting the fake paganism that the Torah was written to repudiate.
[00:06:56]  Egypt was a cult of death that believed in polytheism and paganism.
[00:07:01]  We live in a monotheistic society that is increasingly becoming pagan.
[00:07:06]  If the church remains silent, you will be ruled not by the golden calf, but by the purple-haired jihadists that calls themselves an accepting trans person that forces you to use their pronouns while they castrate your kids.
[00:07:18]  That's right.
[00:07:20]  Well said.
[00:07:22]  You know, my concern is something I often fight is this idea, you know, Matthew 24, it has to get worse before it gets better.
[00:07:31]  And this interpretation, what we see looks like end time signs.
[00:07:36]  But this idea of letting it go so it gets worse, so it can get better, such a terrible interpretation of scripture.
[00:07:45]  I often say this, you know, the church of the time hid the gospel, the Roman church, and the dark ages came and Christ did not come back.
[00:07:58]  And so the assumption that by my negligence, by my complacency, he's going to provoke the return of Christ is such a fallacy.
[00:08:06]  And I think a lot of Christians live under that enchantment and just, they'd rather be afraid and do nothing and let everything that you just said than react and be the salt and the light.
[00:08:19]  Yeah, so with what happened in Israel this last weekend, there has been a spike, because I monitor all this, in pastors increasing their chatter saying that these are the end times.
[00:08:30]  Now, they might be right.
[00:08:31]  We might be living through the birth pains before the tribulation.
[00:08:34]  I understand that.
[00:08:35]  However, the wrong way to look at that is to say we must do nothing because God's plan is falling into place.
[00:08:44]  We must be very humble about the end times.
[00:08:46]  Correct.
[00:08:47]  They thought the end was in the year 1000, 1400, 1630, 1850, 2000, and 2011.
[00:08:55]  Yes, maybe it's going to come on the feast day in 2030.
[00:08:58]  Or maybe it's going to come in a thousand years from now.
[00:09:01]  Or maybe it's going to come in 2,000 years from now.
[00:09:04]  And I don't hear that kind of humility enough from some people that only talk about the end times.
[00:09:10]  And dare I go a step further?
[00:09:14]  Some people are almost wanting the end times to come because it's going to bail them out of a very dark world.
[00:09:24]  How do I say this?
[00:09:26]  They could be right.
[00:09:27]  There are some verses that might suggest that.
[00:09:30]  But the overarching truth of the Bible is usually God is going to test our obedience in the face of evil.
[00:09:39]  God can end any evil if he chooses, but he gives us some form of a free will to test our love of him, our duty to him, and our obedience.
[00:09:48]  I got, you know, in a conversation with a pastor this morning, and he said, Charlie, the end times are here.
[00:09:53]  You know, we're going to be zapped up next Thursday.
[00:09:58]  And they might be right.
[00:09:59]  I don't even mean, I do believe that Jesus is going to come back on his throne.
[00:10:02]  I do believe that.
[00:10:03]  But I am certainly not, I am not prideful enough to declare when Jesus said the hour and the day is unknown.
[00:10:13]  That's right.
[00:10:14]  That I somehow have that answer.
[00:10:16]  Instead, I emphasize on what we do.
[00:10:20]  And to give credit to my Jewish friends, they do a much better job of focusing on what you must do.
[00:10:28]  Now, if I were to, and this is Dennis Prager's chick, I'm just kind of taking it from him.
[00:10:33]  He says, Jews are too this world focused.
[00:10:36]  Christians are too next world focused.
[00:10:39]  And I don't necessarily agree with that.
[00:10:41]  I think you can get too focused on the next world where you allow evil to spread in this world.
[00:10:46]  And I've seen it happen.
[00:10:48]  I've seen certain Christians say, why should I donate?
[00:10:51]  Why should I have children?
[00:10:53]  I have pastors that are now actively saying it is better to not have children because we are definitely in the end times.
[00:11:00]  I believe that's evil.
[00:11:02]  Believe is using your pulpit as a pastor to tell people not to do something that is biblically commanded and holy because you're so certain that this is the end of the world, you are misleading your flock.
[00:11:14]  In fact, it should be the opposite.
[00:11:16]  Occupy till he comes.
[00:11:18]  Take as much terrain as possible and occupy that until Christ's return.
[00:11:25]  If Christ is coming back on his throne, hallelujah.
[00:11:28]  But if it's from a long time from now, I'm going to try to make this world a little bit better.
[00:11:33]  Psalm 97:10 says, If you love God, you must hate evil.
[00:11:40]  And if I may, this last weekend, what happened in Israel, the worst terror attack on Jews since the Holocaust.
[00:11:48]  800, maybe even 1,000 Jews.
[00:11:50]  And I don't think the media is doing a good enough job talking about this.
[00:11:54]  And I'll be very, I mean, this was not as if these savage animals came in and started firing on military targets.
[00:12:02]  This was not a military operation.
[00:12:04]  This was bloodthirst of civilians.
[00:12:07]  It's a completely different thing.
[00:12:09]  We have not seen anything like this in quite some time.
[00:12:11]  Maybe in Israel you'll see a bus being bombed, right?
[00:12:14]  Or you'll see a building here or there.
[00:12:17]  This was five or six hours of door by door, kibbutz by kibbutz, going and finding Jews, taking them out of their homes, kidnapping the women, over a hundred hostages still.
[00:12:28]  And there's lots of takeaways.
[00:12:29]  We'll talk about Israel, I'm sure, as we go.
[00:12:31]  But the one takeaway that I had is: I said, I sure hope that it wakes people up that when you sit and you do nothing, there are some very evil forces in this world.
[00:12:42]  Like unspeakably evil.
[00:12:44]  And there's no rationalizing with them.
[00:12:47]  There's no middle ground.
[00:12:49]  It is demonic bloodthirst.
[00:12:51]  And they come back and they are welcomed as heroes in Gaza.
[00:12:56]  They are welcomed as if they did some sort of military battle.
[00:13:00]  When they go door by door and no one even fights, they're begging for their life.
[00:13:05]  It's not as if they survived some sort of conquest and it was tough.
[00:13:09]  They had to experience artillery fire.
[00:13:11]  They were unopposed for hours, like savage beasts in the wild.
[00:13:16]  And they come home to the thrill of the Gazan women with their, you know, the Islamic, like they as if they won some sort of big battle, saying, Aluch Akbar, these people must be eliminated from the face of the earth that did this against these Jewish, against these people in Israel.
[00:13:35]  There is no middle ground.
[00:13:37]  And so, yeah, evil exists, and it is happy-talk modern Christianity that acts as if there is no evil in this world, or we can find some middle ground.

=== Hate Evil Retain Good (12:18) ===

[00:13:49]  And they very well might be coming here soon, or they might already be here.
[00:13:53]  Romans 12 says, hate evil.
[00:13:56]  You must hate evil.
[00:13:57]  Yes.
[00:13:57]  Abort it and retain what is good.
[00:14:00]  You know, if I can share with you briefly the kind of actions that all of us can take.
[00:14:07]  You know, at the beginning of this year, we shared the biblical citizenship class.
[00:14:12]  And this older couple in their 70s, at the end, I said, church, this cannot be about texting memes to one another and complaining about how bad it is.
[00:14:22]  We must do something.
[00:14:24]  We prayed.
[00:14:24]  This elderly couple just went to their nearby village here.
[00:14:29]  They found out that they were about to have an election.
[00:14:31]  They knocked on 60 doors, held a block party.
[00:14:35]  They just began to, they selected three of the candidates and made it to the news and Fox News, Miami Shores.
[00:14:42]  They unseated people that do not need to be in charge of our village.
[00:14:46]  And I think the trouble is that too many Christians, too many good people are too busy between church activities and tennis and watching sports on TV.
[00:14:55]  And while we're doing that, living our good life that we plan for, there are a few players locally that have no interest in doing any of that.
[00:15:03]  And they're occupying places of influence, and the church is asleep.
[00:15:08]  And it's time to act.
[00:15:10]  And this just happened in our town a few months ago.
[00:15:13]  So the kind of action that we're calling to church and friends that are visiting, these things are possible now.
[00:15:19]  The battle is not lost.
[00:15:20]  It is time to act, and it is time to open our eyes to find out what's going on in your local government and act.
[00:15:26]  Amen.
[00:15:29]  Awesome.
[00:15:30]  Well, you already made you went really quickly into the woke and trends and all those things.
[00:15:37]  What are some things you travel extensively?
[00:15:40]  You know what the landscape looks like nationally.
[00:15:43]  What are some things that the church can do to prevent the infiltration?
[00:15:48]  In which subtle ways do you see it most effectively so that the church may be aware of how these ideologies permeate into church?
[00:15:59]  Yeah, so there's, let's go back to that kind of idea of the paganism, right?
[00:16:04]  So we are wired as religious beings.
[00:16:09]  So you have a God-sized hole in your heart that you have to fill with something.
[00:16:13]  There's really no such thing as a godless society.
[00:16:17]  When we say godless, we just mean the Christian God or the Jehovah is no longer the God of America.
[00:16:25]  They'll place it with some small G God.
[00:16:27]  It's a great example in the book of Exodus, right?
[00:16:30]  Moses basically says, hey, be right back.
[00:16:33]  God wants to talk to me, right?
[00:16:35]  And give me something pretty important.
[00:16:37]  So he goes up on the mountain.
[00:16:39]  And God's chosen people, after all the miracles that they've seen, delivered from Egypt, the parting of the Red Sea, they couldn't wait to get back to idol worship and paganism.
[00:16:52]  It's one of my favorite lines of the entire Bible.
[00:16:54]  Moses comes down, he just got delivered the Ten Commandments straight from God.
[00:17:00]  And of course, Aaron, he goes to Aaron, Aaron, what's going on here?
[00:17:04]  You know, they're having like a rave party, and you know, they have this golden calf.
[00:17:09]  And the rabbi would know the Hebrew, but it basically, Aaron was like, I threw the gold in the fire and out came the calf.
[00:17:16]  And it was like, it's like one of the worst excuses in the history.
[00:17:20]  It's like, yeah, I hate when that happens, right?
[00:17:23]  When I just throw the gold in the fire and up comes this big calf, right?
[00:17:27]  The calf is not insignificant, by the way.
[00:17:28]  The calf is a very common idol.
[00:17:31]  But here are people that saw God's goodness, God's deliverance, and they couldn't help themselves to get back to idol worship and paganism.
[00:17:42]  It's a reason why God says, by the way, you shall have no other gods before me.
[00:17:47]  And it's actually the Ten Statements in Hebrew, not the Ten Commandments.
[00:17:51]  But it goes through and it says, remember, I'm the Lord your God that delivered you from Egypt.
[00:17:54]  Like, just in case you forgot, I brought you numbskulls out of that place.
[00:18:00]  And there's a second lesson there that we'll get to later.
[00:18:04]  But if the church is not careful, the church very well might be introducing pagan golden calves into the holy.
[00:18:13]  And you might say, oh, we would never do that.
[00:18:15]  Well, there are fake religions that are no different that are now dominating society.
[00:18:20]  One, for example, is the religion of tolerance.
[00:18:24]  And a lot of Christians, they bow at the altar of tolerance over worshiping Jesus, where they believe we must be tolerant of evil.
[00:18:34]  And they say, well, we must be nice.
[00:18:35]  Nice is never found in the Bible.
[00:18:37]  Now, I'm not advocating being mean or be cruel, but this idea that you must win favor by compromising or watering down the word of God is nowhere to be found.
[00:18:49]  And so, you know, the cult of tolerance, they will tell you that you must do nothing while evil marches throughout your society.
[00:18:57]  That you must do nothing when tens of thousands of kids are chemically castrated and medically mutilated in the name of transition surgery.
[00:19:07]  That you must do nothing as the southern border remains wide open because diversity is our strength.
[00:19:13]  And this idea of the cult of tolerance is really built on bad theology, is what it is.
[00:19:19]  We're called to repudiate evil because we love God.
[00:19:23]  And modern Christianity has been abysmal at confronting evil and more specifically, naming evil.
[00:19:30]  We're afraid that someone might walk out of our church or someone might call us a bad name.
[00:19:35]  The church needs to continue to be the moral guide of the society.
[00:19:41]  Another one is, and this is one that's not talked about enough, is if there's one thing that Genesis does so clearly is that it denounces worship of the earth.
[00:19:55]  And almost every civilization prior to the Jews, they worship the river, the star, the suns.
[00:20:02]  Egypt did this, right?
[00:20:03]  They had, okay, we worship, you know, Ra, the sun god, or worship the Nile.
[00:20:09]  The separation that was laid out in Genesis 1 through 11 is God spoke nature into existence.
[00:20:15]  That we do not worship nature.
[00:20:16]  And you might say, oh, we're long past that.
[00:20:18]  The environmentalist movement in America are no better than the earth worshipers 5,000 years ago.
[00:20:25]  They are pagan earth worshipers that believe we as human beings are contaminating nature, that we are the invading force.
[00:20:34]  They outright talk about depopulation.
[00:20:37]  And you would be shocked at how many churches are now like, well, you know, we have to embrace this green energy agenda.
[00:20:44]  Nature is there for our purpose, to take dominion over the earth.
[00:20:49]  Nature is there so human beings can flourish, not that we worship nature because, you know, we think that some tree is going to give us some sort of ancestral power.
[00:21:00]  There's also, there is the cult, and I could call it a cult, or the pagan heretical belief of the blurring of distinctions.
[00:21:09]  So if you want to kind of distill a lot of the Old Testament, especially Genesis 1 through 11, you could say God created distinctions and God created order.
[00:21:19]  He created order out of chaos, right?
[00:21:22]  And chaos was the state of being before God comes.
[00:21:25]  Think about all the order that God created between light and darkness, the separation of good and evil, the separation of man and female, the separation of man and nature, holy and profane, the separation, all these separations, every single one, the modern Marxist left and weak Christians are trying to abolish.
[00:21:47]  That's what the trans movement is all about.
[00:21:49]  That's right.
[00:21:50]  Is obliterating the distinctions and the order that God naturally set up for us.
[00:21:55]  If you have no orders and you have no distinction, you have no civilization by definition.
[00:22:01]  The blurring of good and evil, release the prisons and defund the police.
[00:22:06]  No borders, no distinctions.
[00:22:08]  This is actually a Hermetic idea, but that's a little bit wonky.
[00:22:12]  We can get into that if you guys want.
[00:22:13]  But it's an ancient, weird Egyptian belief that the way that we get to oneness of the world is we iron out all differences and that we become a oneness of being.
[00:22:25]  So there's no male or female, there's no good or evil.
[00:22:27]  We all have like one group collective consciousness.
[00:22:30]  It comes from the Egyptian god Hermes, actually.
[00:22:33]  We get the idea of Hermeticism.
[00:22:35]  But the God of the Bible.
[00:22:37]  A dead God that was never God, Hermes.
[00:22:39]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:22:39]  And when I say God, I mean I say pagan God, right?
[00:22:42]  I'm using the word God and Jehovah or Adonai, right, or Yahweh interchangeably, right?
[00:22:48]  Just to be clear, I mean fake God, small G, right?
[00:22:52]  And where we are in society today is this very troubling pattern where the church is not standing for the moral order that God created.
[00:23:06]  We believe that church is nothing more than just raising your hand at a rock concert, wearing skinny jeans, and hoping people are going to give 10%.
[00:23:16]  When in reality, church is about creating disciples.
[00:23:20]  But church now needs to be correcting error and bringing truth to the world.
[00:23:27]  And we have lost that completely because we are living in a society that is morally and culturally and societally chaotic, and only the church can correct it.
[00:23:36]  This state of reprobate mindset, really.
[00:23:39]  Romans 1, as it says.
[00:23:41]  Well, you see it in the church, for example, the Andy Stanley situation, how with one side of the mouth stands for orthodox statements of biblical truth, and then in practice stands for something that opposes that.
[00:23:55]  That duplicity of mind, it's really concerning, and I think it needs to be denounced.
[00:24:02]  But if we don't do it in the church, who are we waiting to do that work?
[00:24:05]  Yeah, that's exactly right.
[00:24:07]  And so are we going to wait on some local secular group to all of a sudden stand for righteousness?
[00:24:13]  And it is an uncomfortable truth for some Christians to hear because Christians have sat idly by on the inheritance of prior generations of courageous Christians.
[00:24:24]  I'm going to say a quote here.
[00:24:26]  I want you to imagine most Christian, you know, pastors saying this: Marxism is Satan's religion.
[00:24:31]  That's right.
[00:24:31]  Okay?
[00:24:32]  You know, Billy Graham said that?
[00:24:34]  That was Billy Graham.
[00:24:36]  The agreeable, the positive.
[00:24:38]  There is a sermon you should watch tonight or whenever.
[00:24:41]  Listen to Billy Graham on communism.
[00:24:43]  He went around the world saying that communism and socialism and Marxism are straight out of the pit of hell.
[00:24:49]  Every characteristic of Marxism is what Lucifer would want: envy, greed, pride, lust.
[00:24:55]  It is all rooted in Marxism.
[00:24:57]  If Billy Graham could talk about how Marxism is from the pit of hell, why don't our modern pastors?
[00:25:03]  Because you know what they say?
[00:25:04]  Well, I don't want to be political.
[00:25:06]  What they're saying is they don't want to be biblical.
[00:25:09]  That's what they're saying.
[00:25:11]  They're saying they don't want to be biblical, that they don't want to believe in.
[00:25:16]  And you should lovingly challenge them.
[00:25:18]  Well, then, do you not believe in Esther, Mordecai, Daniel, Nehemiah, Jeremiah, or Joseph?
[00:25:22]  Was Joseph wrong to counsel the king?
[00:25:25]  Was Daniel wrong to engage in politics?
[00:25:29]  Was Mordecai wrong?
[00:25:31]  Was Esther wrong?
[00:25:33]  God, throughout the scriptures, has elevated people as heroes to be counselor to the king, to be the moral compass of a society.
[00:25:42]  The founding fathers quoted Deuteronomy, Moses' farewell address, Deuteronomy, second laws, more than any other book, secular or religious, in the composition of the American founding documents, the Declaration of the Federalist Papers, of the Constitution.
[00:25:57]  You read Deuteronomy, you realize you could set up a government when you read Deuteronomy.
[00:26:02]  Justice, justice you shall pursue, as it says.
[00:26:05]  So that's a pretty good statement.

=== Deuteronomy and Founding Fathers (03:19) ===

[00:26:07]  The American founders saw that.
[00:26:08]  They said, we must have justice as a bedrock principle.
[00:26:11]  The American trinity, e pluribus unum, liberty, in God we trust, comes directly out of the truths of the Bible.
[00:26:19]  You don't get them ex nihilo out of nothing.
[00:26:21]  You don't just draw them from Machiavelli and Edmund Burke.
[00:26:24]  The Bible built everything that you enjoy.
[00:26:28]  The lack of the Bible is destroying everything that you enjoy, and only the Bible can save everything that you want your children to enjoy.
[00:26:36]  That's right.
[00:26:44]  Well, as you're speaking, I think we all know Miami is largely a Hispanic Latin population, and many of us come from a socialist struggle.
[00:26:59]  And I, on top of being the pastor of Harvest Church, I lead an organization internationally where we plan churches, but we integrate the same type of harvest church with the four pillars and all of that.
[00:27:12]  We integrate a discipleship that informs us on how to be active citizens of our city and of our nation.
[00:27:21]  It's called Gospel Echo, Echo, EKO, Ecclesia, Church, Ki Bernesi's Government, O Oikos.
[00:27:28]  And so we trying to raise this sense.
[00:27:32]  So if I can maybe touch the nerve of some of our audience this evening, many of us come from a lost plight, a lost fight in our Latin American countries.
[00:27:46]  Speaking about Nicaragua, Cuba, Chile, etc. I think there's hope for America because the story of those nations is different.
[00:27:56]  What would you say in a hopeful way?
[00:28:00]  Why should we fight again?
[00:28:02]  Those of us who've made it here, seeing our nation.
[00:28:06]  My father just came back from Cuba.
[00:28:07]  He says, Abiyo, Cuba is just two days away from becoming Haiti.
[00:28:11]  It's just regressing.
[00:28:12]  You turn on the TV and the Yoruba religion dominates.
[00:28:16]  It's just the Orishao, the Santeria is just predominant in the culture.
[00:28:22]  It's regressing to the obscure, to darkness.
[00:28:26]  What could you say?
[00:28:27]  How is America different?
[00:28:28]  What is the fabric in us that will cause us to believe again and to fight together?
[00:28:33]  Yeah, it's funny.
[00:28:34]  I was recently flying back from the Caribbean and they allow you to fly over Cuba now at 40,000 feet.
[00:28:39]  And I was with one of my team members and I was tracking the flight.
[00:28:42]  And I said, hey, look out the window.
[00:28:43]  What do you see?
[00:28:45]  He said, nothing.
[00:28:45]  It's darkness.
[00:28:47]  I said, what do you think we're flying over?
[00:28:48]  He said, oh, over the Caribbean.
[00:28:50]  He said, no, we're flying over a country.
[00:28:53]  I said, it's a perfectly clear night.
[00:28:56]  He said, you're flying over a country.
[00:28:58]  He said, look closer.
[00:28:59]  You could barely see a light where Havana is, barely.
[00:29:03]  It's like, yeah, that's the ballgame.
[00:29:08]  You want to radicalize a young, you're not radicalize, or open up the eyes of a young 20-year-old college student who thinks socialism is a great answer?
[00:29:17]  Just fly over Cuba at night.
[00:29:21]  Look, socialists can be broken into two major categories, okay?

=== Flying Over Darkness (14:27) ===

[00:29:27]  The first is psychologically much harder to explain and unpack, but probably more important, which are very, very rich people that want to redesign society in their making and their liking, and they want to be oligarchs of a socialist society.
[00:29:43]  They want to be the Castros.
[00:29:45]  They want to be the Mussolinis and the Mao's.
[00:29:48]  We could focus a lot of attention on them because they're a very, very evil group of people.
[00:29:54]  The second group of people, to put it lightly, are people too lazy, too dumb, too stupid to ever make a dollar in the market, so they want to take other people's stuff.
[00:30:02]  That's right.
[00:30:03]  So that's based, and people driven by resentment and greed and envy.
[00:30:08]  That's who's in the second bucket.
[00:30:09]  And the masters of the universe, the puppet class, they use the resentment of the lower class to mobilize to keep themselves in power, even though the underclass never get any richer and more powerful.
[00:30:22]  And this cycle repeats itself over and over again.
[00:30:25]  So one of the main reasons, and this is why I wish every church would just preach the Bible, because you could obliterate Marxism in one sermon if you just open up your Bible.
[00:30:35]  One sermon.
[00:30:36]  You need to ask the question, are human beings naturally good?
[00:30:41]  It's a very simple question.
[00:30:43]  And the answer is, of course not.
[00:30:46]  But let's look at what the scriptures have to show us about the Hebrews.
[00:30:49]  Here's how I know the Bible is true: God took the Jewish people and built them into a great nation.
[00:30:55]  Pretty impressive.
[00:30:56]  No offense, but they complain all the time.
[00:30:58]  They're constantly lying.
[00:30:59]  You know, it's pretty impressive how you take the Jewish people and you build them into something great.
[00:31:03]  You could do it with them, you could do it with anybody.
[00:31:06]  And so they leave Israel.
[00:31:08]  And not only are they doing the golden calf thing and all that, within a couple days, they're complaining.
[00:31:12]  God blows coil off course, manna from heaven.
[00:31:16]  Literally, in the book of Numbers, it says the Hebrews complain that they didn't have cucumbers, melons, leeks.
[00:31:24]  And they said, Bring us back to Egypt because at least we had better food and we had meat.
[00:31:32]  Bring us back to slavery.
[00:31:34]  We would rather be taken care of than to be free.
[00:31:40]  And you think about that.
[00:31:42]  I never, by the way, I heard that message eight years ago.
[00:31:47]  Okay?
[00:31:48]  And I read it in my Bible, and I remember going up to my pastor and I said, No, no, no, no, people want to be free.
[00:31:54]  I fought him.
[00:31:55]  I said, No, no, no, this is a different place, different time.
[00:31:58]  Then I lived through COVID.
[00:32:02]  People do not want to be free.
[00:32:04]  They don't.
[00:32:06]  If you have a society that embraces freedom, you have something very, very rare.
[00:32:11]  It's a value.
[00:32:13]  You have a temptation to naturally want to sit at home and get stuff for nothing and want what your neighbor has.
[00:32:20]  What was the first murder in the Bible?
[00:32:22]  Socialism.
[00:32:26]  The first murder in the Bible was socialism.
[00:32:29]  How often do you have a pastor tell you that?
[00:32:32]  Two sacrifices.
[00:32:34]  God likes one of them, doesn't love one of them.
[00:32:37]  Resentment, murder.
[00:32:41]  All throughout the scriptures, you see envy.
[00:32:45]  I want somebody else's stuff.
[00:32:47]  I don't have it as good.
[00:32:49]  Drive you to very evil and dark places.
[00:32:51]  So if you think human beings are naturally great, then you think you can create heaven on earth.
[00:32:59]  And that is the promise of socialism.
[00:33:02]  That you can create a place of perfection.
[00:33:04]  For those of you that grew up in Cuba, how often do they talk about viva la revolution?
[00:33:08]  Just one more year, one more decade, we're going to bring in the greatest thing ever.
[00:33:13]  And then you say, well, why don't we have any food?
[00:33:14]  It's the Americans' fault.
[00:33:16]  Right?
[00:33:17]  Because they're blockading us.
[00:33:19]  Yeah, but you keep on shooting people.
[00:33:21]  Ah, no, no, no, no, forget it.
[00:33:22]  It's the Westerners' fault.
[00:33:25]  Now, let me connect some big dots for you.
[00:33:28]  The unclean spirit of blaming other people for your problems.
[00:33:31]  It's the blockade.
[00:33:33]  It's an apartheid state.
[00:33:36]  It's the same through line of BLM in this country, Hamas in the Middle East, and the socialists and the communists all throughout South America.
[00:33:45]  Which is we're never going to govern through an idea of we take responsibility for our own actions.
[00:33:52]  We're going to try to improve our life.
[00:33:54]  It's somebody else's problem.
[00:33:56]  Because it comes from a flawed perspective where they think human beings are naturally great, and anything wrong in the world is because of the structure or the system.
[00:34:07]  Capitalism, xenophobia, you know, homophobia, all these reasons why the world is so bad.
[00:34:14]  And this explains why when I go to a college campus and I'm debating a brat who hasn't showered in two weeks, smells, unshaven, no job, you know, reeks of marijuana, telling me that America is the problem.
[00:34:38]  When in reality, someone needs to say, you're the problem.
[00:34:41]  That's right.
[00:34:41]  The biggest problem is you.
[00:34:44]  How about you stop smoking weed, wake up earlier, start taking responsibility for your life, but that's a cop-out.
[00:34:51]  It's a cop-out for a generation that does not want to say the biggest problem in the world is me.
[00:34:59]  They would rather blame some other external problem for it.
[00:35:02]  Marxism preys on these people.
[00:35:05]  They weaponize them and they fill them with backwards ideology.
[00:35:10]  So you might be wondering, why fight here?
[00:35:12]  Well, first of all, God wants you to fight tyranny in all of its forms.
[00:35:16]  If pastors were honest to the Bible, they would say something very clearly.
[00:35:20]  God does not want humanity to live in authoritarianism.
[00:35:23]  He delivered the Jews from Egypt that lived under slavery and lived under tyranny.
[00:35:28]  Jesus says in John 10, 10, one of my favorite verses, it summarizes good versus evil better than anything as close.
[00:35:35]  The enemy has come to lie, steal, cheat, and destroy.
[00:35:39]  I have come to give life and life more abundantly.
[00:35:41]  Boom.
[00:35:42]  Which side are you on?
[00:35:43]  Lying, cheating, stealing, or destroying, or life more abundantly.
[00:35:47]  In Cuba, they are not living with life or life more abundantly.
[00:35:51]  It is oppressive.
[00:35:53]  If you've never visited a Marxist country, you should.
[00:35:57]  It is a different spiritual dynamic.
[00:35:59]  It is heavy.
[00:36:00]  And if you're not, just go to Portland.
[00:36:01]  It feels exactly the same.
[00:36:04]  New York City feels the same.
[00:36:05]  Boston feels that way now.
[00:36:07]  Seattle feels that way now.
[00:36:09]  Philadelphia feels that way now.
[00:36:11]  San Francisco feels that way now.
[00:36:15]  Chicago, where I grew up, feels that way now.
[00:36:18]  Where the citizenry feel hopeless.
[00:36:21]  And then you made a very, very important point.
[00:36:24]  They get into the occult because they need some way to try to figure it out, right?
[00:36:30]  So they get into the witch doctors or the tart card, tarot card readers, or the kind of like Oprah Winfrey book club thing where it's like, yeah, we're going to kind of like be one with the universe, like this kind of Eastern Buddhist thing that so many Christians are now embracing.
[00:36:48]  And it brings darkness upon your land.
[00:36:50]  And it makes you respect and just admire the goodness of God of what the Word of God has done for civilization.
[00:36:59]  Nothing has come even close to liberating people to live a decent life.
[00:37:06]  Nothing.
[00:37:06]  And I don't think we as Christians talk about the fruit of the Bible enough.
[00:37:10]  I think we do a good job of speaking about heaven and the afterlife.
[00:37:14]  But look at the goodness that the Bible has given the world.
[00:37:17]  We have a Christian inheritance.
[00:37:19]  You want to know what people are like left to their own devices?
[00:37:21]  Hamas is what they're like.
[00:37:25]  We call it uncivilized or barbarism for a reason.
[00:37:28]  Well, what is civilized?
[00:37:29]  The Bible civilized society.
[00:37:32]  You go in that direction, they rape, they take kids.
[00:37:35]  There's nothing wrong with it.
[00:37:36]  They celebrate it.
[00:37:37]  Who's to say that is wrong?
[00:37:38]  Absent a Christian worldview, that is considered great.
[00:37:42]  30 Harvard organizers in the last 24 hours came out and signed an open letter saying it is wonderful what happened in Israel.
[00:37:52]  Harvard, Columbia University, something very similar.
[00:37:57]  They are the most godless institutions.
[00:38:01]  Remember, they have some other God that replaces it.
[00:38:04]  You might say they have no wisdom, of course, because the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
[00:38:10]  And that's why one of the reasons they believe all the stuff they believe.
[00:38:13]  So look, if you're sick of fighting Marxism, you're in the wrong country.
[00:38:16]  You are now living in one of the most, I think, high-stakes battles in the history of humanity.
[00:38:23]  And God wants us to defeat these Marxists because I believe the ideology is from the pit of hell.
[00:38:28]  That's right.
[00:38:29]  I believe so.
[00:38:32]  You know, you mentioned that the first murder was because of socialism.
[00:38:38]  The first socialist to make it to the new world was actually Christopher Columbus.
[00:38:43]  This is Columbus Day.
[00:38:44]  Exactly.
[00:38:47]  When he left, he didn't know where he was going.
[00:38:48]  When he landed, he didn't know where he was.
[00:38:51]  And he did the whole thing with other people's money.
[00:38:53]  That's why he's a great socialist.
[00:38:55]  That was a joke.
[00:38:58]  This word, great reset, and you were kind of touching on these powers and all of that.
[00:39:03]  What should Christians, how should we think we believe in cataclysmic events that God controls?
[00:39:12]  Such a term, you know, has a certain impact on Christians.
[00:39:16]  What would you say of this great reset that brings chills up spines of certain people?
[00:39:23]  Yeah, I mean, I could talk at it at length.
[00:39:26]  I mean, they have an agenda.
[00:39:28]  They want to change the globe by 2030.
[00:39:31]  You'll own nothing and you'll be happy.
[00:39:33]  They'll plug you into machines and you'll be a transhumanist robot.
[00:39:37]  They are already doing a great job of obliterating the currency, which is a big part.
[00:39:42]  You must destroy the U.S. dollar, keep the borders completely and totally wide open.
[00:39:46]  And you might say, Charlie, what is driving this?
[00:39:48]  How could people be this evil?
[00:39:50]  Well, thankfully, we as Christians do not have to answer that question.
[00:39:53]  It's very simple.
[00:39:55]  The last story told before the first Jew, Abraham, is exactly what is going on.
[00:40:01]  It is Genesis 11 playing itself all over again.
[00:40:04]  The reconstruction of the city of Babel.
[00:40:06]  That's all that it is.
[00:40:08]  That's right.
[00:40:08]  To create a one-world government.
[00:40:10]  It's Nimrod in its own way.
[00:40:12]  By the way, I could do a two-hour speech on the profundity of Genesis 11.
[00:40:21]  Let us make a city for our name, the pride that takes, not the name of God.
[00:40:25]  Nimrod says, we want to do it for us, in our name.
[00:40:29]  God sees this.
[00:40:30]  He's like, whoa, this is not going to end well.
[00:40:35]  That was an attempt at a one-world government.
[00:40:39]  That was the World Economic Forum.
[00:40:41]  That was Klaus Schwab.
[00:40:42]  That was the UN.
[00:40:44]  What if I told you the Bible created the idea of borders?
[00:40:48]  Separation.
[00:40:50]  The idea of a sovereign nation is a biblical idea.
[00:40:54]  So it should make sense as the world becomes less biblical.
[00:40:57]  They don't want sovereign nations.
[00:41:00]  They want oneness.
[00:41:01]  And we've kind of allowed this to slowly drip in.
[00:41:04]  And I'm not even saying this was a bad idea, but the European Union project was largely an idea of eroding sovereignty.
[00:41:11]  It's just, you know, you have one currency.
[00:41:13]  They speak more English than they speak their native languages now in Germany because it's just kind of the way that all the countries can communicate with one another.
[00:41:21]  And there's some positives and negatives to that.
[00:41:23]  But you look at all these transnational alliances.
[00:41:27]  There's one thing that stands, really two things that stand in the way.
[00:41:29]  Israel stands in the way too, but that's why they're going after it so hard.
[00:41:32]  And by the way, any sympathy you see for Israel, wait one week, everyone's going to be against Israel, okay?
[00:41:37]  Don't be fooled.
[00:41:38]  One week, mark it right now.
[00:41:40]  Every international organization is going to say, look at they're bombing hospitals and schools.
[00:41:44]  Just wait.
[00:41:44]  Give it one week.
[00:41:45]  Public opinion will flip on its head.
[00:41:47]  Guarantee it.
[00:41:48]  The second part, though, is America.
[00:41:51]  America is the country that should not exist in the eyes of the satanic Genesis 11 globalists.
[00:41:57]  We're too strong.
[00:41:59]  We're too free.
[00:42:00]  We're too unified.
[00:42:01]  We're too willing to fight evil.
[00:42:03]  And the reason why Joe Biden, who's a traitor to the United States, by the way, the reason why Joe, and he's an active traitor, he's not like he betrayed us once.
[00:42:12]  He is betraying us on an hourly basis.
[00:42:15]  Okay?
[00:42:16]  Hourly.
[00:42:20]  The reason why he keeps the border completely and totally wide open is that he must destroy American sovereignty.
[00:42:29]  No borders, no America.
[00:42:31]  You could bring in a one-world type government.
[00:42:34]  There is an important theme I want to introduce to you, though, and we as Christians can understand.
[00:42:40]  So, we have this idea of the escaton.
[00:42:43]  The escaton is the world that Christ will govern when he returns.
[00:42:49]  The 1,000-world reign, right?
[00:42:52]  The left believes in their own escaton, in their own heaven on earth.
[00:42:58]  They think they're doing the right thing.
[00:43:03]  And I want to just, this is a Jewish belief more than a Christian belief.
[00:43:07]  And I want to just challenge people because people say, Charlie, it's all about intentions.
[00:43:12]  Only thing that matters is intentions.
[00:43:15]  And I don't believe that.
[00:43:18]  And you don't believe it either.
[00:43:19]  Intentions can matter in certain situations.
[00:43:22]  Okay?
[00:43:22]  Let me prove it to you.
[00:43:23]  That if my wife tells me to take out the garbage and I forget versus my actively not defying her and not taking out the garbage, those are two different situations.
[00:43:35]  Would you agree?
[00:43:36]  Me forgetting versus me saying, I'm not doing it out of spite.
[00:43:41]  Big difference.
[00:43:42]  But when we look at the revolutionaries, should we cut them slack because they think they're creating heaven?
[00:43:51]  Some Christians say we should.

=== Intentions Matter (16:40) ===

[00:43:54]  They say they think they're doing well, so they're not doing evil.
[00:43:58]  You know, most evil people never think they're doing evil.
[00:44:03]  More evil has been done in the name of good than anything else.
[00:44:06]  Hitler thought he was doing good.
[00:44:08]  He did not wake up every day and say, you know what?
[00:44:10]  I'm going to go do some evil.
[00:44:13]  Very, very few people believe that.
[00:44:17]  And so what I'm trying to tell you is that the people we're fighting, they think we're evil, and we think we know they're evil.
[00:44:27]  But they've convinced themselves they're doing something good that makes them much harder to defeat.
[00:44:34]  Much harder.
[00:44:35]  Because you might say, Charlie, how could they possibly?
[00:44:37]  Because they think they're creating nirvana.
[00:44:39]  They think they're going to be able to get rid of the borders, get rid of private property, get rid of America, get rid of colonialism, get rid of homophobia, and we're going to live in John Lenin's world.
[00:44:49]  And everyone will get along and roll into the hills.
[00:44:52]  And more people have died under this false promise of heaven on earth than almost any other idea in the last 100 years.
[00:45:00]  I was at a Christian university, and a young man came up and he said, Charlie, I think you're too nasty towards the intentions of other people.
[00:45:07]  And I say, the intentions are irrelevant.
[00:45:10]  It is the evil that we must judge.
[00:45:13]  I'm sure they've convinced themselves they're doing good, but they are destroying the nation and their actions themselves are evil.
[00:45:21]  That's right.
[00:45:22]  That's right.
[00:45:28]  It is in this age of information when we know what is right on paper and the actions that follow.
[00:45:38]  It's the same thing that I mentioned before, the church, how it happens.
[00:45:44]  You see European nations that do not fully declare themselves socialists, but they include enough of that.
[00:45:50]  It is a slow war.
[00:45:52]  And if we're not that radical, I appreciate you, and we all do, it's because you have the courage to cut it clear and clean because the consequences of not doing that is the whole frog warming up, you know, the effect of gradually when we wake up, it's too late.
[00:46:12]  My concern, again, for the church, who is the hope of the world, I believe is that we are waiting for something to happen to us personally to then react, and it might be too late.
[00:46:24]  And there are too many Cubans and Venezuelans and too many people from other nations that can tell all of us and America at large that it could happen.
[00:46:33]  And if we don't act now, when we find out personally, it might be too late.
[00:46:38]  Can I say, yeah, go ahead.
[00:46:40]  And I hate to be the downer here, but I think it's already here.
[00:46:46]  My whole career, I've said Marxism is near.
[00:46:50]  In the last three weeks, I now say it has arrived and it has captured the country.
[00:46:58]  And I can prove it to you.
[00:47:01]  I have no explanation other than a captured Marxist country where we have crime going up in every major city and Donald Trump faces 700 years in federal prison.
[00:47:12]  January 6th defendants is, I think the January 6th defendants are no different than the political prisoners in Havana during Castro's revolution.
[00:47:21]  They are no different in my eyes.
[00:47:24]  No different.
[00:47:26]  When I see Donald Trump's assets might be taken from him in New York, that's something that Castro would do.
[00:47:34]  He'd say, you're the billionaire former president.
[00:47:36]  I don't like you.
[00:47:37]  I'm going to call you a fascist.
[00:47:38]  I'm going to take all your hotels.
[00:47:40]  Maduro would do that.
[00:47:42]  Chavez would do that.
[00:47:44]  You guys know exactly of what I speak.
[00:47:46]  And then I'm going to just kind of, I think we're going to do questions in a second, right?
[00:47:49]  But there is a boy, this is not exactly a fun topic.
[00:47:57]  Don't believe that things will naturally turn around just because they get so bad and people will wake up.
[00:48:05]  Israel example, obviously, that happens.
[00:48:08]  People say, oh, whatever.
[00:48:09]  You know, go Palestine.
[00:48:12]  I will tell you one story that I think will open your eyes to how insidious this ideology is.
[00:48:19]  Young couple at 3.51 a.m. is sitting on a park bench in Brooklyn, New York.
[00:48:24]  A black man crosses them and they get in some sort of a conflict.
[00:48:28]  Now, both of these people are to the left of Joseph Stalin, right?
[00:48:31]  There is, and I don't wish death upon my enemies.
[00:48:33]  I don't do that, okay?
[00:48:35]  But they're about defund the police and all that, okay?
[00:48:37]  This young man gets in some sort of an argument.
[00:48:40]  His throat is slit by this young black guy, and he dies.
[00:48:44]  Weirdly enough, his girlfriend doesn't apply first aid.
[00:48:47]  It's a very strange thing, right?
[00:48:50]  But it gets sicker.
[00:48:53]  The young girlfriend, the police come, and they say, hey, you know, describe to us who did this.
[00:48:59]  And she says, well, I'm not going to tell you the race because I don't want to perpetuate racism.
[00:49:05]  Of course, obviously at that moment, you know, it's a black person, right?
[00:49:08]  So it's like, okay, thanks for telling us who did it.
[00:49:11]  You're not exactly going to hold back the race if it's a Scottish guy, right?
[00:49:15]  So, but hold on a second.
[00:49:18]  Understand how sick this is.
[00:49:20]  She just saw her boyfriend get murdered in the streets, and she's more worried about people thinking racist thoughts than justice for the killer.
[00:49:30]  Okay?
[00:49:32]  How do you defeat that?
[00:49:35]  I mean, that is a religion.
[00:49:39]  That is adherence to something that is fanaticism.
[00:49:42]  I'll tell you another example.
[00:49:43]  In Germany, a young lady was gang raped by six Arabs.
[00:49:48]  Arab refugees, because diversity is our strength, right?
[00:49:51]  So just bring in as many people from the third world as possible.
[00:49:53]  By the way, not a joke, there's sleeper cells all over the country.
[00:49:56]  I pray they don't go off and Americans don't die.
[00:49:58]  They have, because we've allowed 10 million people to come into our country, okay?
[00:50:02]  So buy guns and walk around with one because this is about to get really hot really soon.
[00:50:06]  I pray I'm wrong.
[00:50:07]  Anyway, six Arabs go into Germany, gang rape a girl.
[00:50:10]  The police, you know, she goes in and she says, she's traumatically, what could be worse for a female than six men gang raping her?
[00:50:17]  Apparently something is worse.
[00:50:19]  They say, describe who did this.
[00:50:21]  And she said, six white Germans raped me.
[00:50:24]  So they go on a manhunt for six white Germans.
[00:50:27]  And after a couple weeks, you know, they have nothing but dead ends.
[00:50:30]  They go back to her.
[00:50:31]  Turns out, they interview her and she said, well, I didn't want to continue the anti-immigrant hatred in Germany.
[00:50:38]  She was protecting her rapists for ideology.
[00:50:42]  I don't even know how to think about that, to be honest.
[00:50:45]  A young lady gets gang raped and she wants to protect them because she's afraid that other people might think negatively of immigration from the Arab world.
[00:50:55]  We're not dealing with rationality here, people.
[00:50:58]  This is spiritual warfare.
[00:51:01]  This is straight from the pit of hell.
[00:51:03]  This is Lucifer himself that is manifested in cult-like ideologies that the college industry launders and repurposes.
[00:51:11]  There's no reasoning with these people.
[00:51:13]  There's no finding middle ground.
[00:51:14]  If you see your boyfriend's throat get slit and you're worried about describing that person because of racism, you're not dealing with something where you can all of a sudden find a middle ground.
[00:51:25]  We must defeat these people.
[00:51:26]  It's the only option.
[00:51:33]  Turn it over to you now, everyone.
[00:51:36]  Chip Moore, he's the regional director for TPUSA in Florida.
[00:51:39]  Will you wave high, applaud.
[00:51:43]  Great job here.
[00:51:50]  Yeah, and I do believe.
[00:51:53]  There we go.
[00:51:53]  Yeah, we'll do some questions.
[00:51:54]  I do want to try to talk a little bit more about the Israel situation as well.
[00:51:58]  And so if anyone has a question about that, I would love to lead with that in the first couple questions.
[00:52:02]  I know I peppered that in, but I think there's a lot of takeaways there.
[00:52:07]  So anyway, so anyway, the number one turning point USA high school leader in the country right here does a great job.
[00:52:17]  Number one in the whole country.
[00:52:19]  All right, what's your question?
[00:52:21]  All righty, Charlie.
[00:52:22]  Thank you.
[00:52:23]  So my question is based around what's happening in Israel, but I wouldn't want to say, and I've had a lot of my friends in school who are Muslim bring it up to me.
[00:52:33]  And they're obviously defending, in this case, Palestine, right?
[00:52:37]  They don't look at it much of a Hamas type of thing because that's not the narrative that the left is pushing, right?
[00:52:44]  But I do want to maybe entice another topic into it and see if you could tackle it.
[00:52:51]  So Genesis 9, 6 says, whoever sheds the blood of man by man, shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image.
[00:53:02]  So considering that, apart from the fact that war is something that is always occurring and something that is inevitable, should capital punishment be something that is legal in the U.S. as a whole?
[00:53:22]  And how do you think that we as conservatives should sort of avoid the negative stereotype against Muslims who aren't terrorists?
[00:53:32]  Yeah, no, that's fair.
[00:53:34]  I mean, let me first start with the first one.
[00:53:37]  I have not seen an adequate amount of outrage by quote-unquote peaceful Muslims about what's happened here.
[00:53:42]  This was not like a stroll in the park or a military base.
[00:53:46]  You know, let me just tell you, when I woke up on Saturday morning, I turn off my phone.
[00:53:49]  I do a Jewish Shabbat.
[00:53:50]  It's great.
[00:53:51]  I recommend it.
[00:53:51]  It's amazing.
[00:53:52]  And yet I was watching college football.
[00:53:54]  It's the one thing that I give an exception for, right?
[00:53:56]  And I'm flipping the channels.
[00:53:57]  And this sounds bad, but when I saw the news reports of war in Israel, battle in Israel, I feel like I'm used to it, right?
[00:54:04]  Rockets go back and forth.
[00:54:06]  Unfortunately, a couple dozen people die, and it kind of simmers down.
[00:54:10]  And I start going back to the channel throughout the day, and they're like, 200 people dead.
[00:54:14]  I'm like, what?
[00:54:14]  300?
[00:54:15]  I'm like, whoa, And they're talking about kids.
[00:54:18]  Like, no one gets kidnapped in Israel.
[00:54:20]  That's a big deal.
[00:54:21]  I hope you understand.
[00:54:22]  That is a big deal.
[00:54:24]  The last time that there was an Israeli kidnapping was like 2005, right?
[00:54:28]  2001?
[00:54:30]  It's like 20 years ago, right?
[00:54:32]  So they have 100 people.
[00:54:34]  This is not normal, right?
[00:54:37]  But I don't want to generalize because I think that's sloppy intellectually.
[00:54:43]  But it is a fact that when these people returned home, the quote-unquote peaceful people of Gaza treated them like heroes.
[00:54:53]  It's a fact that in Turkey, a NATO member, by the way, why that ever happened, I don't know.
[00:54:59]  They're celebrating.
[00:55:00]  Celebrating.
[00:55:01]  In Qatar, they're celebrating.
[00:55:04]  So spare me the lecture about how wonderful and how peaceful you guys are, okay?
[00:55:09]  Like you're institutionally defending this crap.
[00:55:13]  And I need to see the goods, to be perfectly honest with you, right?
[00:55:18]  And when I see like Saudi Arabia, they're like, well, we need to de-escalate.
[00:55:22]  Easy for you guys to say, Saudi Arabia, okay?
[00:55:25]  Like if you had a bunch of somebody come into Saudi Arabia and go into nurseries, I don't mean to like bother your day, but sometimes you have to talk about the evil.
[00:55:33]  They dismembered 18-month-year-old babies on Saturday for sport and live streamed it.
[00:55:39]  This is not a military operation.
[00:55:42]  This is a mini Holocaust, okay?
[00:55:45]  And I do not use that language lightly, okay?
[00:55:48]  I am not a person to call people Nazis.
[00:55:50]  I get called a Nazi all the time.
[00:55:52]  It sickens me when people cheapen that language.
[00:55:54]  This is the closest thing.
[00:55:56]  In fact, it is the closest thing to the Holocaust we've seen in 80 years.
[00:55:59]  And I have to be told by Harvard that it's the beginning of a great liberation.
[00:56:03]  And Colombia.
[00:56:07]  It really baffles the mind.
[00:56:08]  So I don't know how to reason with your Muslim friends.
[00:56:12]  Tell them to go reform their religion and then we'll get back, you know, get back to us, honestly.
[00:56:16]  Like, I've lost patience with them, to be perfectly honest.
[00:56:19]  I'll believe it when I see it.
[00:56:21]  To the second part, capital punishment.
[00:56:24]  Yes, morally, I believe in capital punishment.
[00:56:26]  Our country is so screwed up, though, because of how litigious we are.
[00:56:30]  We kill the wrong person far too often, so that's a real thing.
[00:56:34]  So my belief is we need to be very careful when we use capital punishment because there have been about 40 people that have been wrongfully executed in the last 30 years.
[00:56:43]  I think that's a great injustice.
[00:56:45]  But yeah, like, for example, when I see the guy in Bemidji, Minnesota, who was the leader of a gang rape of an 11-year-old, I think we should have a quick and speedy trial and publicly execute these people.
[00:56:59]  And I know that sounds medieval and extreme, but I believe that for certain crimes of depravity so heinous, the killing should be done in public, it should be done quickly, and it should be done as a sign as a deterrent.
[00:57:16]  We give way too many concessions to these animals.
[00:57:19]  Now, if there's DNA, like there's this case in Oklahoma where this guy's on death row and it's like he hired somebody for it and they don't have DNA evidence, they should just take that off of the death row case, life in prison.
[00:57:30]  Like, we don't exactly strengthen our case when we go to the suspect cases.
[00:57:36]  I'll be very honest.
[00:57:36]  That's my personal opinion.
[00:57:38]  But when it's clear-cut, admission of guilt, right, and you could see it, the Bible is morally clear about it.
[00:57:45]  And I changed my opinion.
[00:57:46]  I used to not believe that a couple years ago.
[00:57:49]  But then I studied my Bible more closely and started to love the Old Testament more.
[00:57:55]  Yes?
[00:57:57]  First of all, thank you so much for everything you do.
[00:57:59]  My name is Jerry Newcomb.
[00:58:00]  You interviewed me once, and I appreciate that.
[00:58:03]  About six months ago, it was in reference to the...
[00:58:06]  I remember that.
[00:58:07]  You do?
[00:58:07]  I actually have the program that we showed an excerpt from.
[00:58:11]  I'd like you to have these.
[00:58:12]  But anyway, just real fast, I wanted to ask you about the issue of abortion.
[00:58:16]  Because lately, what the left is doing is they're spending millions and millions and millions of dollars in these different states for referendums, and then they're coming up with the liberal votes, and now the narrative is basically, well, if you're pro-life, abortion is a losing issue.
[00:58:35]  And I know the other side of that is, well, okay, look at Ron DeSantis.
[00:58:39]  He did pretty well, and he was very strongly pro-life.
[00:58:41]  But still, you know, I'd like your thoughts on that.
[00:58:45]  Yes, so I'm 100% pro-life, even so that I lose people on my advocacy.
[00:58:50]  I don't waver when it comes to the defense of the unborn.
[00:58:54]  And so I don't even believe in exceptions for rape and incest.
[00:58:58]  That's how morally clear I am on it, just so we're very clear.
[00:59:02]  With that being said, I'm not, my principled moral teaching, which is 100% clear, is different than what I would give political advice on.
[00:59:12]  So there's three different categories, okay?
[00:59:14]  So you have principles, and then you have political power.
[00:59:17]  And the only way you can get your principles in to effect is with political power.
[00:59:22]  And then comes the messy and uncomfortable middle ground where a lot of Christians don't like ever talking about, which is politics, right?
[00:59:32]  And politics is the art of the possible.
[00:59:35]  And I'm not saying we should ever waver in our belief, but we also have to understand that my 100% belief on no exceptions for abortion is not where the country is at.
[00:59:46]  It's just not.
[00:59:47]  And so when certain candidates say I will run on an eight-week ban, I think that's a step in the right direction.
[00:59:54]  I think incrementalism is something that we should embrace 100% and then win over people and win over hearts and minds and be there for young women that are in distress.
[01:00:02]  So all those things can be simultaneously true.
[01:00:05]  And we must also speak another truth.
[01:00:09]  If the 2024 election is only about abortion, we will lose.
[01:00:13]  And I say that as a pro-life warrior who debates this topic and goes to crisis centers and raises money for them and debates planned parented maniacs.
[01:00:23]  And so that you might say, well, Charlie, you're contradicting yourself.
[01:00:26]  I'm actually not.
[01:00:27]  I'm saying what I believe.
[01:00:29]  I want to get to a place where abortion is illegal in all 50 states and every life is protected.

=== Pro-Life Warrior Contradiction (05:46) ===

[01:00:35]  Okay?
[01:00:36]  And I also know that I believe it's the modern-day moral equivalent of slavery.
[01:00:42]  And decoupling from slavery was very difficult.
[01:00:46]  The incrementalists actually won the slavery debate over time.
[01:00:51]  So you have to win consensus, win where you can legislatively, debate, win in the culture war, have people like Candace Owens, like what we're doing at Turning Point USA, you know, go viral on the topic.
[01:01:02]  And so as long as we're moving in the right direction, I think that is okay.
[01:01:08]  So when President Trump comes out, people say, oh, he's caving on abortion.
[01:01:12]  Is he?
[01:01:12]  Or is he trying to make politics, which is the art of the possible, be in political power and understand that, look, we do not live in a pro-life country.
[01:01:23]  You can hope we live in a pro-life country.
[01:01:24]  We just don't.
[01:01:25]  The fact of the matter is the majority of the country, especially suburban housewives, they want abortion on demand in case their 16-year-old daughter, who's sleeping around too much, gets knocked up and they don't want to have that kid around.
[01:01:37]  That's not a speculation.
[01:01:38]  It's a fact, okay?
[01:01:40]  The driving force for abortion politics are suburban housewives that want abortion as a last measure to preserve their daughter to be able to go to college.
[01:01:49]  Okay?
[01:01:50]  We have to win those people over eventually while understanding that there is a variety of issues that we will have 0% say in if we do not win a presidential election, right?
[01:02:04]  If we do not win a presidential election, and here's another part.
[01:02:07]  I could tell you, in certain states, when it is only about abortion, we get nothing when it comes to about abortion because we lose.
[01:02:15]  So, you know, people are going after Trump.
[01:02:17]  By the way, he put people on the Supreme Court that reversed Roe versus Wade.
[01:02:21]  George W. Bush didn't do that.
[01:02:23]  George H.W. Bush didn't do that.
[01:02:26]  And so that's a very complicated answer.
[01:02:29]  I hope it made sense.
[01:02:30]  But all those things can be simultaneously true.
[01:02:33]  While we're not wavering on the moral clarity of what it is, which is a genocide and a slavery of our time.
[01:02:40]  And we must never waver on the moral importance and prerogative of that.
[01:02:46]  Hi, Dorne, Charlie.
[01:02:48]  God bless you, man.
[01:02:48]  I'm Rob.
[01:02:49]  I go to a church here at Miami Beach.
[01:02:51]  I found out about this event through an Instagram post.
[01:02:55]  And coincidentally, I know this brother.
[01:02:57]  He's a man of God, so praise God for that.
[01:03:01]  And so the timing of this meeting could not be more perfect.
[01:03:05]  My church just had a meeting with all the leaders, and he wanted to talk about the whole issue with trans and LGBTQ and all that stuff.
[01:03:13]  And he said, in this church, we will not allow people to practice what they do here in the church.
[01:03:20]  In other words, if a man comes as a woman, dressed as a woman, that person will go to the men's bathroom.
[01:03:26]  If they want to go to the woman's bathroom, we will escort them out.
[01:03:29]  And with love, if they want to sit and hear the sermon, praise God, we believe God could change them.
[01:03:35]  Okay?
[01:03:36]  Now, I believe many churches have become trans themselves, transparent.
[01:03:43]  Because they avoid talking about this.
[01:03:46]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:03:47]  How can we make the churches, you know, talk about this situation?
[01:03:51]  We have to let them know that this is a sin.
[01:03:53]  It's wrong.
[01:03:54]  Well, yeah, it's more than a sin.
[01:03:55]  It's actually called an abomination by God in Deuteronomy.
[01:03:59]  If a man shall dress as a woman, it is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord.
[01:04:04]  So here I am at a church service, right?
[01:04:06]  I pull out my Bible, which, you know, many pastors don't read in America.
[01:04:11]  And it's just true, especially Andy Stanley.
[01:04:13]  And I say, well, we should talk about that.
[01:04:16]  What he did recently is so sick.
[01:04:18]  He will be judged for what he did.
[01:04:20]  And I say, I think it's Deuteronomy 20 or something.
[01:04:23]  And it says that if a man shall dress as a woman or in woman's garments, that is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord.
[01:04:32]  And he shall be.
[01:04:33]  Beggity shot.
[01:04:34]  Beggity shot.
[01:04:36]  A man cannot wear a female garment, right?
[01:04:39]  Because, and there's plenty of explanations.
[01:04:41]  God wants the separation.
[01:04:42]  He doesn't want a man masquerading as a woman.
[01:04:44]  And so what happens is the media says Charlie thinks that trans people are an abomination to God.
[01:04:51]  I was like, no, no, no.
[01:04:52]  God thinks they're an abomination to himself.
[01:04:55]  I'm just the messenger.
[01:04:56]  Doesn't matter what I think.
[01:04:58]  I'm just reading the scripture.
[01:05:00]  So look, we need to be way more morally clear on the trans thing.
[01:05:04]  I'm called a radical on the issue.
[01:05:06]  Radical means to the root.
[01:05:07]  I am a radical, okay?
[01:05:09]  I refuse to acknowledge somebody's mental disease because you dress.
[01:05:14]  I don't care what you think you are.
[01:05:17]  And I'll give you a great example that really blows the minds.
[01:05:20]  And I actually got it from Candace Owens.
[01:05:22]  So Candace Owens had a schizophrenic stalker who believed that he was married to Candace Owens.
[01:05:33]  Why is he wrong?
[01:05:36]  It's his truth, right?
[01:05:38]  He believes that he's married to her.
[01:05:40]  Don't we honor people's truth?
[01:05:42]  He feels it.
[01:05:44]  He knows it.
[01:05:45]  It's who he is.
[01:05:47]  How is that any different than a man who thinks and believes that he's a woman?
[01:05:53]  No, reality must triumph over somebody's mental delusion, which is exactly what this is.
[01:05:59]  This is a crisis of a delusion that has infected our entire society.
[01:06:04]  Look, God created man and female, period.
[01:06:08]  And God, God created order and separation for a reason, and the church must be clearly speaking.
[01:06:13]  So, what did Andy Stanley do?
[01:06:15]  Andy Stanley had a conference where he said we must have LGBTQ plus.
[01:06:19]  He used their language.
[01:06:20]  Can you believe it?

=== Reality Must Triumph (10:48) ===

[01:06:21]  The LGTQ.
[01:06:23]  He had two people that claimed they're not married.
[01:06:26]  Okay, let me be very clear.
[01:06:27]  They say they're married.
[01:06:28]  They're apostates.
[01:06:29]  But they say they're married, which is not a thing.
[01:06:31]  You can't be married to a man.
[01:06:32]  You can't be married to a woman if you're a woman.
[01:06:34]  It's not possible.
[01:06:35]  You might be lusting.
[01:06:36]  You might be having sex with that person, but it's not marriage.
[01:06:38]  You can appropriate it all you want.
[01:06:40]  I'm a stickler for words, okay?
[01:06:41]  Marriage is the attraction of opposites to create a whole, okay?
[01:06:45]  You know why it's so important?
[01:06:47]  If you don't stand for marriage, that means you don't believe in the relationship between Christ and his church.
[01:06:52]  Think about that.
[01:06:53]  Marriage is the same thing as Christ with his bride.
[01:06:55]  Okay, so Andy Stanley has two of these men speak at his conference at a church.
[01:07:01]  Open homosexuals saying that we need to do a better job as a church or else we're going to lose attendance.
[01:07:08]  Look, first of all, he's wrong, but honestly, I'll be happy to lose attendance as long as we're speaking the truth.
[01:07:14]  I don't care.
[01:07:15]  Yes, next question.
[01:07:19]  Hello, Charlie.
[01:07:20]  How are you?
[01:07:20]  My name is Jorge Galicia.
[01:07:22]  I am from Venezuela.
[01:07:23]  I came to this beautiful nation four years ago, and I'm actually right now the TPUSA field rep for South Florida.
[01:07:30]  And thank you.
[01:07:34]  Actually, if you're in college and you want to start a chapter, reach out to me.
[01:07:37]  But my question is basically about Iran.
[01:07:41]  What should we do about Iran?
[01:07:43]  I know we have really good reasons to believe that they were the ones behind the recent attack that we saw in Israel.
[01:07:50]  Iran is all over Venezuela.
[01:07:51]  They basically kidnapped one of the kidnappers of our nation, and they're all over our Western hemisphere.
[01:07:58]  How do we deal with that?
[01:08:00]  Yeah, it's a great question.
[01:08:01]  So I actually find myself for once in a position of moderation, which is actually fun because usually I'm like on the extremes of things.
[01:08:10]  I'll be honest, I don't trust the national security apparatus in D.C. I'm an outspoken critic of sending aid to Ukraine.
[01:08:17]  I think we should find peace in this war of Ukraine and Russia.
[01:08:21]  It's not America's responsibility, especially as our own border remains completely and totally wide open.
[01:08:28]  And you heard my passion.
[01:08:30]  Somebody asked me today, they said, Charlie, what should America do for Israel?
[01:08:33]  Let Israel defend itself.
[01:08:35]  They can handle this one.
[01:08:36]  They got it.
[01:08:37]  You know what we can do?
[01:08:38]  Stand up for them at the UN and create media cover.
[01:08:42]  Israel has this plenty.
[01:08:44]  It's not going to be a military issue.
[01:08:47]  I think we should also be very skeptical of some of the hawks that got us into no-win war situations in Afghanistan that might be trying to drag us into another no-win war in the Middle East.
[01:08:58]  I think both can be simultaneously true.
[01:09:00]  That's where I find myself in kind of like a position of moderation.
[01:09:03]  I think sanctions back on Iran makes sense.
[01:09:05]  Having the traitor Joe Biden kicked out of the White House and freeze the $6 billion in assets that were sent into Iran, which is pathologically insane, would be one thing.
[01:09:17]  And honestly, you want to really stick it to Iran?
[01:09:20]  Do everything you can to preserve the Israeli-Saudi Arabian peace deal that just got interrupted.
[01:09:25]  That would really stick it to Iran.
[01:09:27]  Blessed are the peacemakers, right?
[01:09:29]  So let Israel be Israel and then have America come in and say, okay, let's make that Israel-Saudi Arabian deal happen.
[01:09:39]  Here's my personal calculation, okay?
[01:09:41]  Just going to be honest with you, I find it very, very hard to believe that Netanyahu was not double-crossed here, okay?
[01:09:49]  I've been to the Gaza Strip.
[01:09:51]  I've been to that border wall.
[01:09:53]  You go to coffee, there's like six IDF guys with machine guns, okay?
[01:09:57]  Took six hours to mobilize a response.
[01:10:00]  The whole thing is very, very weird, very suspicious, okay?
[01:10:03]  I'm not saying that the government knew about it.
[01:10:05]  I'm saying that the government probably was double-crossed by people within the Israeli government that gave them bad information.
[01:10:12]  And Mossad screwed this up so royally.
[01:10:14]  I was talking to a guy high up in IDF, and I'm not the only one with that belief, okay?
[01:10:19]  But I think, why would Iran do Iran?
[01:10:22]  I was watching CNN before this because I hate myself.
[01:10:25]  And I was watching CNN.
[01:10:28]  I felt like throwing a rock.
[01:10:29]  I felt like an Arab where they just, you know, they do nothing but destroy.
[01:10:36]  Biden administration, colon, no evidence of Iran behind the Hamas attack.
[01:10:40]  I'm like, really?
[01:10:42]  I'm supposed to believe this crap that Iran was not involved in the training and the planning of an 800-person invasion of Israel.
[01:10:50]  Oh, no, we, Iran, have nothing to do with it.
[01:10:54]  I don't believe that for a second.
[01:10:55]  And so the response should be very simple.
[01:11:00]  Let Israel do what Israel does, which is unfortunately going to be not unfortunately, but it is what it is.
[01:11:05]  It's just life.
[01:11:06]  A lot of people are going to die, and it will send a message for the next 200 years.
[01:11:09]  It's like the ultimate FAFO type situation.
[01:11:12]  And if you know what that means, you know what it means.
[01:11:15]  And yeah, everyone's whispering to their husband, what does that mean exactly?
[01:11:19]  It's not church appropriate.
[01:11:22]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:11:22]  Yeah, it's church.
[01:11:25]  And then try to make the peace deal happen.
[01:11:29]  That would be a blow to Iran.
[01:11:30]  And honestly, there's one really simple solution.
[01:11:33]  We got to get a new president.
[01:11:35]  This is unsustainable.
[01:11:38]  We are playing with fire here, folks.
[01:11:41]  We got a border invasion.
[01:11:42]  We got this stupid thing with Russia and Ukraine.
[01:11:44]  Only by God's grace are we not going to be in a world war very soon.
[01:11:48]  And I'm not exaggerating.
[01:11:49]  I don't do hyperbole.
[01:11:51]  We are at like the razor's edge of us being in an irreversible conflict with China or with Russia.
[01:11:59]  Boy, I hope God gives us grace and we get a new president because we need it.
[01:12:04]  Trump would solve this thing in an afternoon and then finish his McDonald's burger.
[01:12:11]  Hi, Charlie.
[01:12:13]  So I met you two years ago, a really long time, and I'm homeschooled.
[01:12:20]  My name is Natalia Subay.
[01:12:22]  And I wanted to ask you, what is your message to us kids?
[01:12:29]  Well, first of all, thank you for being here.
[01:12:31]  That's not easy to do, so give it up for her.
[01:12:33]  That's really great.
[01:12:35]  So, first of all, I love Moms for Liberty.
[01:12:38]  They do a great job.
[01:12:39]  Look, you're going to have to grow up quicker.
[01:12:44]  And that's a sad reality.
[01:12:48]  I'm a big believer in letting kids have a childhood.
[01:12:51]  The left doesn't believe in that, right?
[01:12:54]  They're full of contradictions.
[01:12:55]  But yeah, they want to do strip shows in front of eight-year-olds, right?
[01:12:58]  This drag queen stuff, which is just so unbelievable.
[01:13:01]  But here's the reality: we live in very troubling times.
[01:13:05]  I don't come with hopium, guys, which is hope and opium.
[01:13:07]  You mix it together, it feels good, but it's really bad for you.
[01:13:11]  This is a really dark time.
[01:13:13]  I'm just going to be honest, right?
[01:13:14]  You must remain happy and joyful, but I got nothing but bad news, to be honest.
[01:13:19]  It's really bad.
[01:13:21]  And so, what does that mean for kids?
[01:13:23]  You must be joyful in the Lord, but you have to fight.
[01:13:27]  And we need people of every age.
[01:13:29]  Start turning point groups.
[01:13:30]  Convince your friends.
[01:13:31]  Get involved in politics.
[01:13:33]  And this is going to take a multi-generational mobilization.
[01:13:37]  That's exactly what Turning Point USA is doing.
[01:13:39]  I believe we can win, and I believe we can get it better.
[01:13:43]  But, you know, I'll say that I don't mean to scare you before you go home.
[01:13:47]  This is the most troubled I've ever felt about my country.
[01:13:50]  And I thought I felt troubling during Obama.
[01:13:53]  I mean, and I do this for a living.
[01:13:55]  And this is really, really sick.
[01:13:59]  But guess what?
[01:14:00]  We can make it better.
[01:14:01]  You're what, 11 years old?
[01:14:03]  You can live in a better country, and I want you to.
[01:14:05]  That's why I do what I do.
[01:14:07]  And I do not believe that we have to just let this place fall apart.
[01:14:12]  Salt and light change the environments that you come in contact with.
[01:14:16]  That's right.
[01:14:16]  Next question.
[01:14:17]  Yeah.
[01:14:17]  Do you mind if I please tell you?
[01:14:19]  I'm sorry.
[01:14:19]  Yeah.
[01:14:20]  Yeah.
[01:14:20]  Who is that sweet girl?
[01:14:23]  How awesome that God hears your prayers.
[01:14:28]  And He's always with you.
[01:14:31]  And you never have to fear because He's greater and stronger than all these things.
[01:14:37]  These troubles have always been here.
[01:14:39]  They intensify at certain times, then they go away, they're less visible.
[01:14:43]  But the trouble is in the heart of man.
[01:14:45]  But God has won the battle.
[01:14:47]  So He hears your prayers.
[01:14:56]  It's way more beautiful when it comes from other people than rather the parents.
[01:15:00]  It's always they hear the parents.
[01:15:03]  But thank you so much for the words for my daughter.
[01:15:07]  This is my two young ones.
[01:15:11]  I came from Colombia legally 13 years ago.
[01:15:15]  I have four children.
[01:15:17]  My oldest one is this is the fifth year she's president of Turning Point Chapter.
[01:15:26]  And even my children came with me when you are not so far here in Palm Beach.
[01:15:33]  They love you.
[01:15:34]  They support you.
[01:15:36]  And I think if this is the example that we have to do to our children, show that it's not only moms that they are telling the truth, but we are the big majority.
[01:15:49]  And this is the great thing because here the LGBTQ is less than 5% of the population.
[01:15:55]  But here they talk about democracy.
[01:16:00]  What is democracy?
[01:16:01]  It's half plus one.
[01:16:04]  We are the majority.
[01:16:06]  So we decide what we want.
[01:16:08]  And talking about that elections, I am from Moms for Liberty, the national director.
[01:16:16]  And here are my other Moms for Liberty from Brower.
[01:16:24]  And we are taking seriously this, not only with our own children that I homeschool, and there is no other solution, immediately, solution for our kids right now.
[01:16:36]  But I think it's a duty for moms and dads to realize that they are being educated by the enemy in public school.
[01:16:48]  So I have two little questions.
[01:16:49]  One, if this is very personal.
[01:16:53]  I think when this globalization starts, I don't know, 50 years ago, I don't realize exactly when they start, but they start taking the woman out of the house and God out of the schools.

=== Homeschooling for Young Women (05:05) ===

[01:17:10]  So actually, schools are good, or we just return to that time where children are being educated at home, because I find it's a little overwhelming homeschooling, but it's beautiful.
[01:17:26]  And my relationship even with my children.
[01:17:28]  I'm sorry, can you just get to the question?
[01:17:30]  Because we're running really short on time.
[01:17:31]  So do you think schools are the solution or to return to the time?
[01:17:38]  I'm a big fan of homeschooling, big time.
[01:17:40]  And I think...
[01:17:42]  Let me isolate one thing you said, though.
[01:17:45]  If you were to guess what is the most loyal liberal demographic in America, you might say black voters.
[01:17:51]  Nope.
[01:17:52]  Not even female black voters.
[01:17:54]  You know what the most loyal Democrat group in America is?
[01:17:57]  College-educated women who are single and live in urban areas and earn more than $100,000 a year.
[01:18:08]  We live in the tyranny of unhappy feminist college grads.
[01:18:15]  And this is a real problem because their biggest anxiety is not going to get solved.
[01:18:22]  And they're very, because they want kids and their windows closing, right?
[01:18:25]  They're 32, 33, 34.
[01:18:27]  They got a couple years left.
[01:18:29]  And if they don't find a man, which they probably, many of them probably won't, they're going to become out of control.
[01:18:36]  And they want abortion on demand.
[01:18:38]  They want free sex.
[01:18:39]  They do not want commitment.
[01:18:41]  And I know I'm generalizing, but you know, we have more single 30-somethings than married 30-somethings for the first time in the history of the species.
[01:18:51]  This is a nuclear bomb for society.
[01:18:54]  And you can't blame these young ladies, right?
[01:18:56]  They did everything they were told.
[01:18:57]  Go get the piece of paper.
[01:18:58]  Go become a partner at Deloitte.
[01:19:00]  Go to the law firm.
[01:19:02]  Go get the apartment in downtown Miami or go get the apartment in Atlanta.
[01:19:06]  Just have birth control.
[01:19:07]  Sex is nothing more than just a physical contact.
[01:19:10]  It's not about emotional binding and all that.
[01:19:12]  And they end up 33 years old with cats.
[01:19:15]  And am I right?
[01:19:22]  Thank you.
[01:19:24]  That's my church.
[01:19:28]  I just got redeemed.
[01:19:29]  You have no idea.
[01:19:31]  Go ahead.
[01:19:34]  And we wonder why they're so resentful.
[01:19:39]  And it's half their fault, half not their fault.
[01:19:42]  And when you talk to them, and they'll never admit it publicly.
[01:19:45]  But they want a man.
[01:19:47]  They want what God designed them for.
[01:19:50]  And the left took them out of it.
[01:19:52]  Gloria Steinman, who wrote The Feminine Mystique, wrote The Feminine Mystique, one that took women out of the home and said they're oppressed, they're all this.
[01:20:01]  If you actually talk to women in the 1960s, they were really happy.
[01:20:04]  This is a small portion of women that were just kind of, they had mental problems, honestly.
[01:20:10]  And they weaponized that and they turned now women as the expectation.
[01:20:14]  And I tell this to young ladies all the time.
[01:20:16]  The media comes after me all the time.
[01:20:17]  They say, you know, why do you tell young ladies to get married young?
[01:20:19]  It's like, because once they get to be 32, they're not that attractive to most men.
[01:20:22]  I'm sorry.
[01:20:23]  It's just true.
[01:20:24]  And you could laugh all you want, but like, men get better with age.
[01:20:28]  Young women don't.
[01:20:29]  And, you know, women get really angry with me when I say that.
[01:20:32]  Except for my wife.
[01:20:33]  No, it's fine, but you don't become, I'm sorry, when you're 33 years old and your counterparts are 33, they're going to want to marry the 22-year-old.
[01:20:44]  And there is something that all the good ones are gone.
[01:20:49]  And they're like, well, you know, I'm a partner at a law firm and I have all this stuff and I have all this.
[01:20:54]  All right, well, you know, go travel the world, but you're not going to have kids.
[01:20:58]  And that's really sad.
[01:20:59]  And I feel for these young women.
[01:21:00]  People think I'm being cruel and awful, but they bought into the modern lie to put their career first and to wall themselves off from seriously dating in their early 20s.
[01:21:11]  And secondly, free sex, I know there's a lot of kids here, but sex impacts young ladies much differently than young men.
[01:21:20]  Okay?
[01:21:20]  Hookup culture is bad for men for different reasons.
[01:21:23]  It is detrimental for young women.
[01:21:27]  When young women have multiple sexual partners, it literally screws with their head.
[01:21:33]  And that's not a joke.
[01:21:35]  It's actually clinically proven.
[01:21:37]  They have bonding and attachment with the male they're with.
[01:21:41]  They release pheromones where they're not designed to have 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 partners.
[01:21:48]  And they end up being 30 and they wonder why they have to spend so much time with their therapists and their antidepressants.
[01:21:53]  And I feel for them because they bought in this lie that they're just like men and they're not.
[01:21:57]  The brains are wired differently.
[01:21:58]  It's bad for men too.
[01:21:59]  It's not even good, it's not good for men, but it's much worse for young women.
[01:22:02]  And so we have a serious problem.
[01:22:04]  I want to try to have a renaissance of young ladies who want to be at home are celebrated as heroes to get married young and have children and be the guardians of society.

=== Sexual Partners Pheromones (02:57) ===

[01:22:15]  So we got to get to another question.
[01:22:17]  Yeah, but really quick.
[01:22:18]  My last question is: in Mas for Liberty, we love to get into action.
[01:22:23]  Now we need to get local election.
[01:22:26]  We need to get into the votes to the people.
[01:22:30]  What is exactly what we have to do when you don't trust anymore the GOP?
[01:22:37]  So let me.
[01:22:38]  How many of you are precinct committee men?
[01:22:39]  Anybody raise your hand?
[01:22:40]  This is why we lose.
[01:22:41]  Every hand should be up.
[01:22:42]  It's really simple.
[01:22:43]  You're in charge of your neighborhood.
[01:22:44]  It's a thousand voters.
[01:22:45]  That's it.
[01:22:46]  We lose because we don't organize.
[01:22:48]  We go to rallies, we buy merchandise, we complain, but we don't organize.
[01:22:53]  Every hand at every church in America should be raised that I'm a precinct committeeman.
[01:22:56]  It's not hard.
[01:22:57]  It's a thousand.
[01:22:58]  You're responsible for a thousand voters in your neighborhood.
[01:23:01]  So that's the answer.
[01:23:03]  Every single person should raise their hand to become a precinct committee woman.
[01:23:06]  God bless you.
[01:23:06]  Or man.
[01:23:07]  Thank you so much.
[01:23:08]  Yes, two more questions, then I have to go.
[01:23:09]  Yes.
[01:23:10]  Hey, Charlie, I'm 29 as well.
[01:23:11]  Happy early birthday.
[01:23:13]  You'll be 30 on Saturday.
[01:23:14]  It's a real crisis, actually.
[01:23:16]  So I'm getting too old for this stuff.
[01:23:19]  I'm going to try to make this quick.
[01:23:20]  People in my age bracket, and I guess your age bracket have a hard time keeping faith and staying positive, at least on social media and public, having Christian and conservative views.
[01:23:29]  So as a young white male, you know, when people my age find out my political and religious views, I'm scrutinized or given like a kind of like a negative label.
[01:23:38]  Even career-wise, I work a county government job.
[01:23:41]  I feel like I have to tiptoe around topics or risk getting kind of unfairly screwed, reprimanded.
[01:23:47]  So what kind of advice would you have for people in that situation?
[01:23:50]  You work for the government?
[01:23:51]  I work, I'm a Miami-Aid firefighter.
[01:23:53]  Yeah.
[01:23:54]  Look, it's tough at work.
[01:23:56]  I'm not going to lie.
[01:23:58]  If you are a white male and you, for example, come out against BLM, they could report you for harassment.
[01:24:04]  And not only could you get fired, you could get sued because they're like, oh, he's racist.
[01:24:08]  It's a real problem.
[01:24:10]  And I don't have good advice for that, honestly.
[01:24:12]  Here's my heart for you: to find a career or find a job where you can be the same person in public that you are in private.
[01:24:20]  And that job is waiting for you out there.
[01:24:21]  There are great employers and there are great entrepreneurs that would love to hire somebody that can be where you could be who you are in all scenarios.
[01:24:31]  And so I wish I had better advice, but honestly, here's what I will say: pray on this.
[01:24:36]  If you have to pretend to be somebody you're not, that's a form of torment and torture.
[01:24:41]  Try to get out of that as quickly as possible.
[01:24:44]  It will impact your marriage.
[01:24:45]  I don't know if you're married or not, or your future relationships, or your kids.
[01:24:49]  So try to find yourself in a place where you don't have to put on a costume when you go to work.
[01:24:55]  That's not good for anybody.
[01:24:57]  Thank you.
[01:24:58]  This will be the final question.
[01:25:00]  Hi, Charlie.
[01:25:02]  I'm 15 years old.
[01:25:04]  My parents are Ukrainian Jews, and I'm currently a college student in America, but definitely like the opposite of what you've described us as.

=== Pray On This (06:58) ===

[01:25:12]  So my question is: Biden gave $6 billion to Iran, which was later given to Iran by Iran to Hamas to help fund this war.
[01:25:20]  Then Biden's Office of Palestinian Affairs posted a tweet, which they later deleted, asking Israel to maintain peace and stand down without fighting back.
[01:25:29]  And yet, why do you still think that 77% of American Jews still continue to support the Democrat Party?
[01:25:35]  What is the reasoning for that when they continually, time and time again, betray us?
[01:25:40]  I've heard from multiple Jewish college students who justified from the attack from Palestine and Hamas because they said that their land was taken in 1946, which is why this attack is justified from Jewish college students.
[01:25:52]  Where does all this stealth hatred stem from?
[01:25:55]  And from the same people who claim that they're religious.
[01:25:58]  I'm sure our rabbi friend deals with this every day.
[01:26:04]  I'm going to give you the mic.
[01:26:05]  Can we have the mic for the rabbi in a second?
[01:26:06]  I'm going to just say this.
[01:26:07]  From my experience, reform and moderate Judaism is the most suicidal worldview I've ever encountered.
[01:26:15]  Is that a fair statement, Rabbi?
[01:26:18]  Absolutely.
[01:26:19]  And the answer to your question is complete stupidity.
[01:26:22]  It makes absolutely no sense.
[01:26:25]  I'll tell you, I have only been voting Republican, but I'm still a registered Democrat because when I was born, God forbid, my mother would have disowned me.
[01:26:38]  You have to be a Democrat.
[01:26:40]  Now, I have not voted that way.
[01:26:42]  See, but by staying a Democrat, I get to vote for the ones who I don't want to win.
[01:26:47]  So you use it the other way.
[01:26:50]  But I must tell you, I've spoken with so many really competent rabbis in the Orthodox world.
[01:26:59]  We don't understand.
[01:27:01]  We don't understand.
[01:27:03]  Just makes no sense.
[01:27:04]  I think it's a question of wanting to be accepted.
[01:27:08]  The conservative and reform are moving so far to the left, so far away from what our traditions teach, that they want to be like the rest.
[01:27:18]  And then they're going to lose who they are.
[01:27:20]  So it's a shame.
[01:27:22]  Yeah, and that's beautifully said.
[01:27:25]  I will add to that: the less religious the Jew, the more likely they are to be in secularism.
[01:27:34]  And what's a shame is that most Jews believe in any ism except Judaism.
[01:27:43]  They are the ones that gave us Marxism.
[01:27:45]  They give us environmentalism.
[01:27:47]  They give us transgenderism.
[01:27:51]  They will fly the banner of any social cause imaginable.
[01:27:56]  Yes, scientism, that's right.
[01:27:57]  No, that's exactly correct.
[01:27:59]  And I say it's suicidal for a reason, because it absolutely is.
[01:28:04]  And what is, you know, my number one critics are Jews, right?
[01:28:09]  Vicious, right?
[01:28:10]  Secular, like ADL.
[01:28:11]  They come after me.
[01:28:12]  They want to destroy my life, right?
[01:28:15]  It doesn't stop my heart for the Jewish people because I'm not going to say they're not Jews, but they're not acting very, you know.
[01:28:21]  They're not acting like the Torah would say.
[01:28:22]  They're definitely not acting Christ-like, but they don't believe in that.
[01:28:27]  And so I see it.
[01:28:29]  And the number one pushers of globalism are secular Jews.
[01:28:33]  Do me a favor.
[01:28:34]  It's just a fact.
[01:28:37]  So I guess your question is, why do I think that is?
[01:28:40]  It's suicidal.
[01:28:42]  And honestly, it's going to be a very interesting coalition.
[01:28:45]  The only defenders of Israel left will be Torah-believing Jews and evangelical Christians.
[01:28:51]  That's it.
[01:28:51]  It's going to be the only ones left.
[01:28:54]  The very community that comes under such criticism.
[01:28:57]  I get attacked every day.
[01:28:58]  You're a Christian nationalist.
[01:29:00]  You know, these Jewish groups come after me.
[01:29:02]  It's like, yeah, okay.
[01:29:03]  I'm the one that's actually going to make sure you still have a holy land.
[01:29:06]  And they attack us viciously.
[01:29:09]  God bless you, Baro Kashem.
[01:29:11]  Thank you.
[01:29:12]  So just a couple things I want to make sure I share everybody.
[01:29:14]  First of all, thank you guys for coming on such short notice here.
[01:29:17]  That really blesses me and it was great to be able to speak to you.
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[01:29:30]  I know it might seem silly, but we're under constant censorship threats.
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[01:29:43]  So thank you for that.
[01:29:44]  We do three podcasts a day, three podcasts a day.
[01:29:49]  And so we would love to earn, it's my favorite word in the English language, earn an opportunity to be your daily news source, always from a biblical worldview.
[01:29:58]  I'll close with this.
[01:29:59]  And by the way, thank you for hosting us.
[01:30:00]  Just amazing.
[01:30:01]  And Rabbi, it's terrific.
[01:30:03]  In the book of Deuteronomy, it tells us something very clearly that you found the right page.
[01:30:14]  That to, if you guys could keep that up, that'd be great.
[01:30:16]  Thank you.
[01:30:17]  To despair is to sin.
[01:30:20]  It's a big teaching when you think about it.
[01:30:23]  We must actively know that if we are despairing, we are rebelling against God.
[01:30:28]  Every day we must be thinking and praying, God, use me.
[01:30:33]  Our prayer should not be, God, save this for me.
[01:30:37]  God, use me as a vessel for salt and light.
[01:30:41]  Use me as a vessel to fight for goodness.
[01:30:45]  We must have a prayer that we must be active in the fight for God's plan.
[01:30:51]  I have no idea how this is going to end up, but there has never been a nation like America in the history of the world.
[01:30:57]  For those of you that are from Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela, you know of what I speak.
[01:31:01]  And guess what?
[01:31:02]  As someone who is, I don't know, 11th generation American, 16, 20, my family came over.
[01:31:09]  For those of you that are first or second generation American, I'm asking you, I'm telling you, we need you because us, many generation Americans, are not fighting because we don't know.
[01:31:18]  I know, but the people around me, they say, oh, how bad can it get?
[01:31:22]  We need the Venezuelans and the Cubans to wake us up and to fight for liberty against Marxism.
[01:31:28]  We need you so badly right now because our country is falling apart and this is a spiritual war.
[01:31:34]  Do not despair.
[01:31:35]  If you love God, you must hate evil.
[01:31:39]  The victory is ultimately God's and Jesus Christ.
[01:31:42]  We must pray that He uses us in the meantime.
[01:31:44]  God bless you guys.
[01:31:45]  Thank you so much.
[01:31:47]  Round of applause for Charlie Kirk.
[01:31:48]  Thank you so much for being with us.
[01:31:50]  God bless you.
[01:31:53]  Marlo Lauder.
[01:31:57]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
[01:31:59]  Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[01:32:01]  Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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