The Charlie Kirk Show - Staring Evil in the Face with Ben Shapiro and Chaya Raichik
Aired: 2023-10-11
Duration: 33:55


=== Ben Shapiro Joins the Show (01:46) ===

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[00:01:26]  Joining us now, man who needs no introduction, Ben Shapiro, host of the Ben Shapiro Show.
[00:01:30]  Ben, thank you for taking the time.
[00:01:32]  I was moved by your podcast on Monday about how we must stare the evil in the face.
[00:01:37]  Please repeat that for our audience and also share how the last couple of days have been for you personally as a Jew, as someone who loves Israel, as I do too.
[00:01:45]  Please, Ben Shapiro.

=== Staring Evil in the Face (08:52) ===

[00:01:46]  Well, evil is showing its face.
[00:01:48]  And when evil shows its face, we have an obligation to look into it.
[00:01:51]  The great lie that we believe here in the West is that everybody thinks like us, everybody holds the same values we do.
[00:01:56]  Everybody holds their children dear the same way we do.
[00:01:59]  That is certainly not true of Hamas, an evil group.
[00:02:02]  They were not attempting to make a territorial incursion.
[00:02:05]  They were not attempting to make a political point.
[00:02:07]  They were attempting to murder as many Jews as possible in their beds to burn them alive.
[00:02:10]  It's the worst event for the Jewish people since the Holocaust.
[00:02:14]  And the response by many people, particularly on the left and in the Islamist world, has been absolutely horrifying.
[00:02:22]  That is obvious to anybody who's been watching.
[00:02:25]  As far as what the past few days have been like for me as a Jew, I flew back from Israel Friday morning.
[00:02:30]  That was about 12 to 15 hours before these attacks began.
[00:02:35]  We were lucky to get out at that time, obviously, with my family, with my kids.
[00:02:39]  We have tons of friends who are still over there.
[00:02:40]  I have many friends who have been called up in Milouim.
[00:02:42]  That's the reserves over there.
[00:02:44]  We first found out about what was going on over there on Saturday morning when my security team came and told me what was going on in sort of general terms.
[00:02:51]  And it was bleeding out over the course of the two-day holiday.
[00:02:53]  Because I'm Orthodox, it means that we don't check the news.
[00:02:56]  We don't watch TV.
[00:02:57]  We don't use our phones during that two-day holiday.
[00:02:59]  So we were hearing rumors.
[00:03:00]  And then obviously we come back online on Sunday night to the news that 700 Jews have been murdered at that point.
[00:03:04]  And it now appears there were 1,200 Jews were murdered in this horrific terrorist assault.
[00:03:10]  When evil shows its head, you have an obligation to look right at it.
[00:03:13]  And the fact that Jew hatred has not gone away, that it's metastasized, that it's found new forms, that there's a thin veneer of anti-Zionism covering a cesspool of anti-Semitism.
[00:03:24]  All of that is perfectly obvious to the naked eye at this point.
[00:03:27]  If you can't find moral clarity in a time when one group is attempting to murder children in their beds, rape women and drag them away to Gaza, take Holocaust survivors and drag them away as captives or shoot them in the head.
[00:03:41]  If you can't find moral clarity in that moment, when that same group is hiding behind its own children in order to maximize civilian casualties, to attempt to stop Israel from protecting its own citizens, or when Israel's northern border is threatened by emissaries of Iran, this is not an ask for American military involvement.
[00:03:58]  This didn't ask for basic human decency.
[00:04:00]  Yeah, and I've been perplexed by some people that say, well, there's more to the story.
[00:04:04]  I say, what the hell are you talking about?
[00:04:05]  More to the story.
[00:04:07]  This was not an attack on a military base.
[00:04:09]  This wasn't rockets coming into Israel, which is bad enough as it is.
[00:04:13]  This was a targeted massacre.
[00:04:15]  This was the deadliest day of Jews since the Holocaust.
[00:04:17]  And I have to hear from some people, well, Israel brought it upon itself.
[00:04:21]  And this is what some people are saying is that BLM in Chicago, the NYU president of the law, something, NYU law, Harvard University, you have people in leadership positions that are saying Israel brought this upon themselves.
[00:04:35]  And Ben, I think it would be helpful to respond to that, but also talk about where does this sick hatred of Jews idea come from that Israel is to blame for their own people being killed in their homes?
[00:04:51]  I mean, this no other word from demonic to believe such a thing, and yet the American intelligentsia embraced that.
[00:04:59]  That's exactly right.
[00:05:00]  Yeah, I mean, the fact is that this particular attack blows up every narrative that has ever been presented in terms of the idea that Israel is responsible for the violence against Israel.
[00:05:10]  This particular attack was perpetrated from the Gaza Strip.
[00:05:12]  Israel abandoned the Gaza Strip in 2005 completely, pulled thousands of Jews out of their homes in the northern point of the Gaza Strip over protest.
[00:05:20]  They left their homes.
[00:05:21]  They turned it all over to the Palestinians.
[00:05:22]  The Palestinians probably burned all of them and burned the greenhouses that they left over there and then elected Hamas, a terrorist group, to be their government.
[00:05:28]  That terrorist group has been in continuous control of the Gaza Strip since 2006.
[00:05:32]  That's almost 20 years.
[00:05:33]  They've spent that intervening almost two decades, building up military resources, firing tens of thousands of rockets over the years into Israel.
[00:05:40]  The only reason this has not happened earlier, frankly, is because Israel's Iron Dome prevented mass civilian casualties inside of Israel.
[00:05:46]  The towns that were infiltrated and the innocents who were murdered, those weren't even in the settlement.
[00:05:51]  So all the talk about the settlements and Israeli occupation, all the rest of this, this isn't a non-Israeli occupied area.
[00:05:57]  Israel got out in 2005.
[00:05:58]  And the areas that were infiltrated in which murder took place have been part of Israel since its inception, since its founding.
[00:06:04]  So none of those narratives hold up under the slightest bit of scrutiny.
[00:06:07]  But again, none of the narratives have held up the entire time for the last 40 years.
[00:06:10]  It's just we've been telling ourselves a pack of lies about how you can negotiate your way into a peace with people who seek the destruction of the Jewish people.
[00:06:17]  I mean, it's literally in the Hamas Charter.
[00:06:18]  It's not as though they're hiding the ball here.
[00:06:20]  The Hamas Charter from 1987, 1988 explicitly calls for the murder of Jews, not just in Israel, not just the extermination of Jews in Israel, the Jews all over the world.
[00:06:27]  And you can see that, by the way, reflected in many of the protests in favor of Hamas.
[00:06:31]  There's protesters in Sydney, and they're literally chanting gas the Jews.
[00:06:34]  I noticed they weren't saying evacuate the settlements.
[00:06:36]  They're saying gas the Jews.
[00:06:37]  The notion that somebody building a bedroom in Afrat is responsible for terrorists crossing a border and murdering babies in their cribs is utterly morally bereft.
[00:06:47]  It's benighted.
[00:06:48]  It's disgusting.
[00:06:48]  I mean, where does Jew hatred come from?
[00:06:50]  I mean, very often it comes from a, it's effectively a giant conspiracy theory about how the Jews are in control of so much of the world's power, which is a shock as a Jew.
[00:07:00]  There are only 15 million of us on planet Earth, and Israel has been signally unsuccessful in its supposed colonization attempts, considering that there are more than 50 Islamic countries in the immediate area and Israel's a tiny sliver of land on the Mediterranean.
[00:07:14]  The notion, again, is that Israel is responsible for all the world's ills, which is really just a cover for Jews are responsible for all the world's ills.
[00:07:20]  And we're seeing that the ugly effects of that today.
[00:07:22]  So I want to make this clear.
[00:07:24]  You know, they talk about, oh, maybe a two-state solution, three-state solution.
[00:07:28]  What Hamas was trying to do was a resurrection of a final solution, okay?
[00:07:33]  This is not about, this is trying to kill Jews and to try to do a genocide.
[00:07:36]  Ben, I want you to respond.
[00:07:38]  Some of our audience is not convinced.
[00:07:40]  I've been receiving emails the last couple of days.
[00:07:42]  Charlie, why do we care about Israel?
[00:07:43]  We should put America first.
[00:07:44]  You know, Israel is not our friend.
[00:07:47]  How should we as conservatives respond to that, Ben?
[00:07:50]  Because I'm sure you get some of that.
[00:07:51]  Not all of it is mean-spirited.
[00:07:53]  Not every one of these messages are people that necessarily are anti-Semitic, but they see our own country collapsing, and they don't necessarily have any sort of interest for things that happen abroad.
[00:08:02]  Not to mention Americans were killed, Americans being held hostage.
[00:08:05]  How would you, Ben, respond to that sentiment?
[00:08:07]  I mean, you did point out 22 Americans were killed.
[00:08:09]  There are apparently multiple Americans being held hostage over there.
[00:08:12]  But beyond that, obviously, I don't think those two things are in conflict.
[00:08:15]  I'm very much in favor of America following her own foreign policy interests.
[00:08:18]  But I think that there's a category error that's been made by some members of the right.
[00:08:23]  The ridiculous belief that America has a moral duty to intervene in every conflict on the basis of morality, obviously that's silly.
[00:08:28]  But the converse belief that America never has a duty to provide even moral support when an ally is being attacked is similarly absurd.
[00:08:37]  No one in Israel, by the way, is asking for America to get into a direct conflict with Iran.
[00:08:41]  I know there's that straw man that's been set up by some people.
[00:08:44]  That's ridiculous.
[00:08:45]  Nobody in Israel, by the way, is by far the most pro-Israel, pro-pro-America American ally there is.
[00:08:51]  I mean, by polling data, Israelis love America.
[00:08:53]  Not only do they love America, they provide extraordinary levels of intelligence, support, military technology to the United States.
[00:09:00]  They're a powerful economy in the region.
[00:09:02]  They're a powerful intelligence asset in the region.
[00:09:04]  That's just on a pure realist level, putting aside all of the sort of moral coincidence that exists between the state of Israel and the United States.
[00:09:12]  Again, there can be arguments to be made and had over what America's foreign policy commitments ought to be, how much money ought to be spent on foreign aid, and all of the rest.
[00:09:20]  But the notion that there shouldn't be any sort of baseline care when Islamic murderers run through a border and start murdering Western civilized babies, I find that hard to imagine.
[00:09:29]  And I also think that many of the people who are making that sort of argument would not be making that sort of argument if you were talking about Islamists running through a border in France and simply murdering babies in a preschool.
[00:09:39]  It looks as if Israel is going to invade the Gaza Strip, which I'm glad you mentioned that Israel gave the Gaza Strip back to the Palestinian Authority.
[00:09:47]  It was a functioning territory.
[00:09:50]  I believe even there were vineyards and rolling hills and it was fertile.
[00:09:54]  You mentioned greenhouses.
[00:09:56]  And the Arab Muslims come in and they smash all the, they say, oh, it's an open-air prison.
[00:09:59]  Well, it wasn't when you got it, okay?
[00:10:01]  It was actually a rather functioning, stable place.
[00:10:03]  It was a producing place.
[00:10:04]  By this open-air prison thing drives me crazy.
[00:10:06]  If it's an open-air prison, why do you keep on increasing your population?
[00:10:10]  The whole thing is ridiculous.
[00:10:11]  And I want to talk about strategically and then how should America respond and support geopolitically, militarily?
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=== Preventing Regional World War (05:52) ===

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[00:11:02]  Israel has significantly blessed my life.
[00:11:04]  It has strengthened my faith.
[00:11:06]  And to see some people not quite understand that has been disappointing.
[00:11:11]  How should then Israel respond to Gaza?
[00:11:14]  It's 2.5 million people.
[00:11:16]  Some critics say, what, are you going to ethnically cleanse the place?
[00:11:19]  So, Ben, you've thought deeply about this.
[00:11:20]  You know the geopolitics of it.
[00:11:22]  How should Israel militarily handle this?
[00:11:24]  Because you and I both know what's going to happen, Ben.
[00:11:26]  Give it five more days, seven more days.
[00:11:28]  All of a sudden, the media, all of a sudden, the international groups are going to turn on Israel.
[00:11:32]  It's already happening.
[00:11:33]  You're going to already see it, right?
[00:11:34]  I mean, the bodies are still being counted and they're already turning against Israel.
[00:11:38]  So do you have a fear that Israel could potentially overreact and do more long-term damage themselves than good?
[00:11:45]  Your thoughts, Ben?
[00:11:46]  Well, no, I mean, they need to reestablish military deterrence.
[00:11:49]  Biggest problem with this entire terrorist attack is that it it punctured the Israeli sense and the Middle East sense of Israeli impregnability and the sort of fortress that was Israel has been breached, and and so Israel needs to reestablish complete military dominance, in the Gaza Strip particularly.
[00:12:03]  There are a few ways to do that.
[00:12:04]  Obviously, Israel is being extremely careful about what it's doing about civilians.
[00:12:08]  They're literally issuing warnings in Arabic to people in particular areas.
[00:12:12]  I mean, I've played the videos on my show of them issuing these warnings, telling them where to go.
[00:12:16]  They're telling them to get out.
[00:12:17]  They're telling them They're calling buildings before they hit them and telling them to get out of.
[00:12:20]  Hamas, of course, hides behind civilians.
[00:12:22]  They put their military headquarters for years underneath a hospital because they want to maximize civilian casualties for the cameras.
[00:12:28]  And so what I would suggest to the West is, first of all, recognize who it is that Israel's fighting and that when civilians die in Gaza, that is because Hamas wants them to die in Gaza.
[00:12:36]  Right now, there's apparently a deal that's being worked out between Israel, the U.S., and Egypt to open the so-called Rafah crossing, which is at the southern tip of the Gaza Strip.
[00:12:44]  The Gaza Strip border is not just Israel, but Egypt.
[00:12:46]  Egypt has been very reticent to allow refugees to go in there, civilians to get in there, because they're very much afraid the terrorists are going to enter with them.
[00:12:54]  Israel, in military terms, is going to have a couple of choices.
[00:12:57]  The biggest choice is going to be whether they set up some sort of broad demilitarization zone, DMZ, along the border.
[00:13:03]  Right now, the fence basically goes right up to the Israeli border, and they were assuming that fence was impregnable.
[00:13:07]  Obviously, that wasn't true.
[00:13:08]  So they might have to set up a DMZ on the border and then probably try to bring in some form of international governance.
[00:13:14]  They're going to try to minimize civilian casualties.
[00:13:16]  They're going to kill everyone they can find at Hamas.
[00:13:18]  And then they're going to have to set up an alternative government.
[00:13:20]  I would assume preferably with some international input.
[00:13:23]  The great lie here is that what Israel desperately wants is to rule over the Gaza Strip.
[00:13:27]  Israel tried so hard not to rule over the Gaza Strip that they allowed their own citizens to be put directly under the umbrella of rocket fire for nearly two decades.
[00:13:34]  So Israel does not want control of the Gaza Strip.
[00:13:36]  The problem is no one will take it.
[00:13:36]  Egypt doesn't want the Gaza Strip.
[00:13:38]  Just like Jordan doesn't want the so-called West Bank, Judah and Samaria.
[00:13:41]  And so the question is, who can be set up in that area in order to actually provide some level of decent governance?
[00:13:48]  And obviously the answer is not going to be Hamas or an Iranian proxy.
[00:13:51]  It might need to be some sort of international caretaking group.
[00:13:53]  It might need to be with input from the Saudis.
[00:13:55]  But Hamas cannot, at the end of the day, be in control of the Gaza Strip.
[00:13:59]  If Hamas is in control of anything other than its own gravesite, then Israel has failed.
[00:14:05]  So, Ben, how then should America respond?
[00:14:08]  You know, one thing that you and I might see a little differently, I'm pretty war-weary.
[00:14:12]  I don't support sending money to Ukraine, but I stand 100% with Israel.
[00:14:15]  So I'm not supportive of sending U.S. troops, but Israel has a total right to defend itself.
[00:14:21]  In the ideal, how should America respond to this?
[00:14:24]  Not just morally, morally, 100%, but militarily, money, troops.
[00:14:29]  And is there a fear that this could potentially become a broader regional conflict and get Iran involved?
[00:14:36]  So money and arms, obviously.
[00:14:37]  So Israel is going to need restock on supplies, particularly of Hezbollah, which has been threatening in the northern border region of Israel.
[00:14:43]  If they get involved, Israel is going to need resupply.
[00:14:46]  And the Biden administration actually is doing the right thing in providing that.
[00:14:49]  Obviously, the Biden administration and encouraging Iran over the past couple of years has some complicity in the rise of Iranian muscle flexing here, which is really what this is.
[00:14:58]  We have to understand that geopolitically what's happened is that Iran was flexing its muscle in the Gaza Strip in order to provoke a war so as to preserve the possibility that Saudi would not enter a peace deal with Israel.
[00:15:07]  They didn't want a Sunni-Israeli deal that would essentially marginalize the power of Shia Iran.
[00:15:13]  That's what a large part of this is about.
[00:15:14]  As far as what America can do, moving the aircraft carriers into the Mediterranean is a smart move.
[00:15:18]  Telling Hezbollah that if they step off that border, that there will be consequences is actually a smart move because deterrence works.
[00:15:26]  If Hezbollah gets in, Israel is going to be forced to go in with the Air Force.
[00:15:29]  If they go in with the Air Force, they're going to be stretched very thin.
[00:15:31]  They're going to need to do everything they can to simply end the threat from Hezbollah.
[00:15:35]  If Hezbollah is actually in danger of falling, if Lebanon is in danger of falling away from Iranian influence, there's a possibility that Iran gets in.
[00:15:42]  So if you want to prevent a regional slash world war, the best thing that America can do right now is say to the terrorist group that is Hezbollah, you better stay off that line.
[00:15:49]  And to Biden's credit, he's at least done that.
[00:15:51]  Now, again, do I think that Biden is at least partially responsible for the encouragement of Iran toward these sorts of moves?
[00:15:57]  Absolutely.
[00:15:58]  I think his weakness on Iran has been absolutely devastating for the region.
[00:16:01]  Listen, I wish President Trump was still president, but the fact of the matter is that in terms of preventing American commitment of, for example, troops or more materiel, making sure that this thing is contained is top American priority.
[00:16:13]  By the way, Israel's priority too.
[00:16:15]  Israel does not want a three-front war.
[00:16:17]  Man, if President Trump was president, none of this crap would be happening.
[00:16:20]  And Joe Biden finances the terrorists and he allows Iran to go wild.
[00:16:24]  Ben, thank you for your time.
[00:16:25]  We pray for Israel and pray for justice.
[00:16:27]  Thank you so much.
[00:16:28]  Appreciate it.

=== Nazi-Level Cruelty Exposed (10:19) ===

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[00:17:35]  Okay, joining us now is the creator from Libs of TikTok, Haya Rachik.
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[00:17:44]  Haya, welcome to the program.
[00:17:46]  So your TPSA contributor, Turning Point USA contributor, both of us went viral the other day because we tweeted about how Hamas murdered babies and potentially dismembered them.
[00:18:00]  And we came under attack for apparently pushing war propaganda.
[00:18:05]  Well, it turns out that we were right, weren't we, Haya?
[00:18:08]  Your response.
[00:18:09]  Hi, Charlie.
[00:18:10]  It's great to be here with you again.
[00:18:12]  Yeah, I found it really alarming at the lengths that some people were going to try to save the reputation of known terrorists and trying to discredit that story.
[00:18:24]  So from what I saw, there was only one news outlet that said that it wasn't true that they had beheaded babies.
[00:18:33]  But there were dozens of outlets that said it was true.
[00:18:36]  I saw a video of an IDF soldier saying that he saw the babies that were beheaded.
[00:18:42]  There were reporters who said that they were there and they saw it.
[00:18:45]  They saw pictures of it.
[00:18:47]  So it was absolutely true.
[00:18:50]  And I think that diverting the discussion into how exactly the babies were killed is just, it's just really silly.
[00:19:00]  And I think it's a dangerous path to go down.
[00:19:03]  Yeah, it's kind of a weird hill to die on, right?
[00:19:06]  I mean, so what are the facts here?
[00:19:08]  Let's just take a step back.
[00:19:09]  You're an observant Jew.
[00:19:11]  You know, you cover things on the internet.
[00:19:13]  Without getting into too horrendous detail that might people, you know, have people, you know, have to swerve off the road.
[00:19:19]  Can you just offer the facts and the details of how savage this massacre was?
[00:19:24]  Because some people are glossing over it.
[00:19:26]  1,200 dead.
[00:19:27]  This was not an attack on a military installation.
[00:19:30]  Hi, this was like Nazi-level cruelty.
[00:19:35]  And I do not use that term lightly.
[00:19:38]  Hate when people throw around the term Nazi so cheaply.
[00:19:42]  And you know what?
[00:19:42]  One of the great casualties of one of the great downsides of these left-wingers that call everything a Nazi is that when I say Nazism, people kind of roll their eyes.
[00:19:51]  No, no, no.
[00:19:52]  This was Nazism.
[00:19:53]  Okay.
[00:19:54]  Haya, walk us through how savage this actually was.
[00:19:57]  Well, Charlie, I cannot agree with you more.
[00:19:59]  And I also absolutely despise when people compare everything to the Nazis.
[00:20:05]  But a lot of people on Twitter were pointing out that in some ways, this is worse than what the Nazis is because the Nazis tried to hide what they were doing.
[00:20:14]  These terrorists are openly boasting about it.
[00:20:19]  I mean, there were reports, they were opening their victims' phones and going onto social media to live stream them murdering their victim for all the Nazi.
[00:20:31]  That's right.
[00:20:32]  And there was like someone who found out that her grandmother had died from logging onto Facebook and seeing a live stream of her grandmother being murdered.
[00:20:39]  This is the athlete level.
[00:20:41]  This is right.
[00:20:42]  So I have to interrupt for a second.
[00:20:44]  So these animals for Hamas, they come in, they go to kibbutz's, take six hours for IDF.
[00:20:49]  And I've said for a while, this is very suspicious why the IDF took six hours to respond.
[00:20:53]  I need an answer.
[00:20:54]  Yeah, I think we definitely need to.
[00:20:55]  Yeah, we need an answer.
[00:20:56]  And before Israel invades Gaza, I hope they're not walking into a trap.
[00:21:02]  I hope they're not walking into a chemical agent or biological agent because something here is off.
[00:21:07]  I'm just being honest.
[00:21:08]  Something here smells.
[00:21:09]  I have a pretty good radar with this stuff.
[00:21:12]  Anyway, that's a separate topic for a different time.
[00:21:14]  So these animals go into these homes, and this has not been covered.
[00:21:18]  They are taunting families, taunting them.
[00:21:21]  And they take the phone of the victim, log onto the social media so all of their Jewish family members will see live streaming on Facebook them torturing Jews.
[00:21:33]  Okay?
[00:21:34]  That's what's happened.
[00:21:35]  Haya, please continue.
[00:21:36]  Yeah, well, that was one of the very disturbing reports.
[00:21:39]  There were images and a video this morning of a car that was completely burnt out and it looked as if they had burned people.
[00:21:47]  I don't know if they were alive when they were burnt or they were burnt to a crisp, like literally to a crisp.
[00:21:52]  And it's really, really horrendous to see it.
[00:21:57]  There were, there's obviously all of the children who were who are hostages now.
[00:22:02]  No one even knows if they're alive or not.
[00:22:06]  They're taking Holocaust survivors, taking the elderly into Gaza as hostages.
[00:22:13]  I mean, the visuals are so horrific.
[00:22:18]  And I'm like forcing myself to watch it because I'm like, we have to know and see what these animals are doing.
[00:22:24]  I think it's important that we see what they're doing because there are so many people who are trying to defend it.
[00:22:33]  Let's talk about that.
[00:22:35]  Look, I get always trying to see if they're, you know, if the media is exaggerating things.
[00:22:43]  Okay.
[00:22:44]  I really respect that.
[00:22:46]  I do.
[00:22:47]  Not falling into emotion, not getting overreaction.
[00:22:51]  And I'll be honest, my gut instinct, and I said this publicly, when I saw the original reports, I said, okay, this is a typical, I know that sounds bad, but it's typical rockets on both sides.
[00:23:06]  And I'm always worried about fake news.
[00:23:07]  But when I started to see reports, I said, you know what my reaction was, Haya?
[00:23:10]  When I started the CCNN say that, you know, children, I said, I'm going to have to see that before I believe it.
[00:23:16]  That's my first reaction because I'm used to them with COVID and, you know, all Ukraine, non-stop propaganda.
[00:23:25]  Okay.
[00:23:26]  We got played with the baby incubator story, for example, in Iraq, right?
[00:23:29]  We got played with that one.
[00:23:31]  And so, but when I, but this is different.
[00:23:33]  We have now verifiable.
[00:23:34]  This is video proof that they are live streaming their massacre, live streaming it.
[00:23:39]  And there's Americans involved.
[00:23:42]  And so, so, please, your reaction.
[00:23:44]  Yeah, 22 Americans, I think, as of this morning are confirmed dead.
[00:23:49]  I don't think they know how many American hostages there are.
[00:23:52]  But yeah, I think just seeing their reaction, like, like you said, they're live streaming their murders.
[00:23:58]  And there's videos, there's verifiable videos of the torture, of the murders, and there are still people out there somehow defending it.
[00:24:07]  And it is a very, very strange hill to die on to start defending a known terrorist organization.
[00:24:14]  And it's scary that I think people just hate Jews so much that they're literally out there defending a terrorist organization.
[00:24:24]  That is terrifying.
[00:24:26]  Yeah, so Haya, talk about this.
[00:24:27]  I mean, you spend a lot of time online.
[00:24:29]  You know, you've started Libs of TikTok, which just for everyone's clear, she doesn't work for TikTok.
[00:24:33]  We're getting some emails.
[00:24:34]  She monitors left-wing TikTok to expose what's happening in classrooms.
[00:24:38]  She's done a moral good for society beyond anything I can put into words.
[00:24:42]  She's terrific.
[00:24:43]  Talk about Haya, what you're seeing online, how traditional left-wing activists, the protests, BLM, Harvard, George Washington University, they are celebrating NYU law.
[00:24:55]  Thank you for sending that in the chat.
[00:24:56]  This is a message from the president, the SBA president of NYU law, saying that, quote, I will not condemn Palestinian resistance.
[00:25:06]  Israel bears full responsibility for the tremendous loss of life.
[00:25:10]  Now, I have to just editorialize for a second here.
[00:25:13]  A lot of Jews give these colleges money, and you guys better stop.
[00:25:17]  Okay, a lot of secular Jews fund NYU and fund Harvard.
[00:25:22]  You guys are funding the suicide of the Jewish people.
[00:25:26]  I mean, I say don't give it at all, but my goodness, how many secular left-wing Jews have given tens of millions of dollars to Harvard and NYU to just have them stick it up your tail and say, I want you dead.
[00:25:40]  Haya, tell us what you're seeing online.
[00:25:42]  Yeah, it's just so mind-boggling.
[00:25:45]  I think maybe possibly the worst was the BLM Chicago who said that they stand with Palestine and they put a picture of a paraglider.
[00:25:54]  And as we all know, that's how the terrorists entered Israel and started murdering people at a festival.
[00:26:01]  And it was basically just completely mocking the victims.
[00:26:06]  And then the reaction was actually really funny because all of a sudden, all these Democrats who have supported BLM are like, oh, wait, like what's happening?
[00:26:17]  And we're all just like, we've been trying to tell you guys for years that BLM is a terrorist organization.
[00:26:23]  They say it out loud.
[00:26:24]  And I think you pointed out that Hamas and BLM actually have very similar type of narratives, that, you know, that victim narrative, the resistance narrative.
[00:26:38]  So that that was actually very interesting to see.
[00:26:43]  And I'm glad that BLM finally said it in a very clear way so that all their supporters now understand.
[00:26:49]  Haya, you're doing wonderful work.

=== Universities Subsidized by Jews (07:04) ===

[00:26:51]  God bless you.
[00:26:52]  Please continue to fight for what is good.
[00:26:54]  And I'm telling you, what Haya has exposed, what she has exposed with the trans stuff is a moral good for society.
[00:27:02]  She works so hard.
[00:27:03]  The media tried to destroy her life.
[00:27:05]  And she is stronger than ever.
[00:27:08]  Haya, thank you so much.
[00:27:09]  Thank you, Charlie.
[00:27:11]  I can't tell you how many successful Jews in America have funded these universities.
[00:27:20]  I would actually venture a guess that probably if you go through the list of Harvard's biggest donors, actually, Blake, that would be interesting.
[00:27:26]  Find, you know, just the public list of Harvard's biggest donors.
[00:27:29]  I'd say 30, 40, 50% are probably Jewish.
[00:27:32]  I'm just guessing.
[00:27:33]  I'm totally guessing.
[00:27:35]  Jews take higher education very seriously and they have pumped billions.
[00:27:39]  I don't care if you are left of Stalin as a Jew.
[00:27:42]  You should not be giving a dollar to these universities.
[00:27:45]  They're funding and fomenting, subsidizing Jew hatred.
[00:27:50]  The money is probably going to keep flowing.
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[00:28:57]  You know, despite what some people say, the Jew haters, Jews are incredibly generous.
[00:29:02]  In fact, Jews, and this is a fact, are more generous than Christians.
[00:29:06]  On average, Jews, especially towards Jewish causes.
[00:29:10]  And I have no tolerance for it.
[00:29:12]  No, they were saying, screw the Jew haters.
[00:29:13]  I have no place for it.
[00:29:15]  Zero tolerance.
[00:29:17]  And that's the great Rob here, who's the boss.
[00:29:20]  He's cheering me on, which is always good.
[00:29:24]  What was he saying?
[00:29:25]  Winning approval from the man upstairs.
[00:29:28]  So Jews are very generous, very this world-focused.
[00:29:32]  Christians are generous, but on average, Jews give more of their money philanthropically.
[00:29:37]  And that's against, again, all the stereotypes people say, oh, you know, they're not generous with money.
[00:29:43]  It's just not true.
[00:29:44]  Anyway, so one of the things that Jews are very generous towards is higher education.
[00:29:49]  Very, very generous towards colleges.
[00:29:54]  Where do you think all this Jew hatred is subsidized?
[00:29:57]  It's being subsidized by Jews.
[00:30:02]  Jews that might be good intention and well-intentioned have given billions of dollars to underwrite their own hatred.
[00:30:13]  Play cut 98, please.
[00:30:16]  Harvard has not done the right thing.
[00:30:19]  The president of Harvard, the Board of Overseers, ought to treat these clubs as if they were the Ku Klux Klan club advocating the lynching of Jews.
[00:30:28]  That's what Black Lives Matter in Chicago was doing.
[00:30:31]  These are comparable to what happened in the 1920s and the 1930s in the South.
[00:30:36]  And we shouldn't mince words about that.
[00:30:38]  I want the name of every student who has ever signed a petition supporting these rapists and murderers.
[00:30:46]  I want their names to be revealed.
[00:30:48]  But we go through some of these donations.
[00:30:50]  Harvard Medical School receives $200 million gift, the largest in school history.
[00:30:55]  Harvard has been the leader, by the way, of some of this, some of the worst, most vile Jew hatred we've seen in the last couple of days.
[00:31:04]  Harvard Student Group issues an anti-Israel statement.
[00:31:08]  31 student groups signed a letter.
[00:31:11]  This is Columbia.
[00:31:13]  This is Harvard.
[00:31:15]  This is NYU.
[00:31:17]  This is George Washington.
[00:31:20]  And by the way, just so we're clear, I didn't make this up.
[00:31:23]  Thank you, Blakeford.
[00:31:24]  Jews on average give nearly double what Christians give on average in America.
[00:31:30]  It's a fact.
[00:31:31]  And by the way, Arizona State University as well.
[00:31:34]  And so when I say you must defund these universities, that you must no longer subsidize it.
[00:31:41]  I have said for a while, Jews that vote Democrat are funding a political party and a political movement that hates them.
[00:31:49]  I want to play another piece of tape here.
[00:31:51]  Alan Dershowitz continues.
[00:31:52]  Play cut 99.
[00:31:53]  Listen to this.
[00:31:54]  Play cut 99.
[00:31:56]  We succeeded in one case today.
[00:31:58]  A woman named Raina Workman, the head of the Student Bar Association at NYU, talked about how it was necessary to rape and murder.
[00:32:07]  And you know what happened?
[00:32:08]  Her offer as a lawyer was rescinded by the law firm.
[00:32:12]  Thank you, law firm, for doing that.
[00:32:14]  Would anybody want as a lawyer a woman who advocated rape and murder, a woman advocating rape?
[00:32:21]  That's what's going on in these universities.
[00:32:24]  And it's not isolated.
[00:32:26]  This surprises me zero.
[00:32:28]  Zero.
[00:32:29]  Bill Ackman, billionaire hedge fund manager, and several of the business leaders are demanding Harvard University release the names of students whose organization signed on to a letter blaming solely Israel for the deadly attacks by Hamas.
[00:32:41]  Good for Bill Ackman, by the way.
[00:32:42]  Good for him.
[00:32:44]  We have been warning at Turning Point USA, it's not just the anti-Semitism and the Jew hatred.
[00:32:49]  It's not, but it is the BLM stuff.
[00:32:52]  It is open borders.
[00:32:53]  It is the trans stuff.
[00:32:54]  It all incubates there.
[00:32:56]  Maybe this will make Jewish donors wake up and say, stop giving money to these institutions that are training kids to want to murder you.
[00:33:09]  Every day I go to these universities and they have plush palatial gardens and massive buildings.
[00:33:14]  And the names on the buildings are well-intentioned, largely Jewish donors.
[00:33:20]  And I sometimes say, boy, they have no idea.
[00:33:23]  They have just written a huge check to make it less likely that Jews can live freely.
[00:33:29]  That's what they teach at these universities, period.
[00:33:31]  Jew hatred.
[00:33:33]  And it's made possible thanks to generous Jews.
[00:33:37]  Make it make sense.
[00:33:41]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
[00:33:43]  Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:33:46]  Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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