The Charlie Kirk Show - Reject Their Terms — LIVE from CLS in Florida
Aired: 2023-07-16
Duration: 01:03:24


=== America's Last Best Hope (10:37) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey everybody, happy Sunday.
[00:00:01]  My conversation, my speech at the Turning Point USA Chapter Leadership Summit.
[00:00:05]  Then I take questions from our amazing chapter leaders.
[00:00:08]  Our chapter leaders are America's last best hope.
[00:00:11]  Get behind them.
[00:00:12]  Support them.
[00:00:13]  Pray for them.
[00:00:14]  tpusa.com.
[00:00:15]  Start a high school chapter, college chapter.
[00:00:18]  These are the people that will stop the American cultural revolution.
[00:00:22]  tpusa.com that is tpusa.com.
[00:00:26]  Buckle up everybody.
[00:00:27]  Here we go.
[00:00:28]  Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
[00:00:30]  Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
[00:00:32]  I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
[00:00:36]  Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
[00:00:39]  I want to thank Charlie.
[00:00:40]  He's an incredible guy.
[00:00:41]  His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
[00:00:50]  We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
[00:00:58]  That's why we are here.
[00:01:02]  Thank you.
[00:01:03]  Wow, this is by far the largest chapter leadership summit we have ever had.
[00:01:07]  Great to see all of you.
[00:01:08]  Been having a good day.
[00:01:10]  Good.
[00:01:11]  Yeah, well, I want to say thank you guys.
[00:01:14]  I see so many familiar faces.
[00:01:16]  We had a fun year this last year, didn't we, on tour?
[00:01:20]  Raise your hand if I came to a college campus near you.
[00:01:22]  And yeah, it's about half.
[00:01:24]  It's good.
[00:01:25]  From New Mexico to anybody, UC Davis?
[00:01:29]  Where's our UC Davis?
[00:01:30]  Yeah, that was quite a visit.
[00:01:33]  That was terrible.
[00:01:35]  But we survived.
[00:01:37]  And UC Santa Barbara, where's our that was also that was something.
[00:01:42]  And how about Ohio State, the Ohio State University?
[00:01:46]  You don't boo.
[00:01:47]  You don't boo our chapter leaders.
[00:01:49]  You don't do that.
[00:01:51]  Here's Danny doing a great job.
[00:01:53]  You guys are on the front lines.
[00:01:55]  Every day I get asked the question by people that are 30 or 40 years older than you, and they ask me, how can I save the country?
[00:02:05]  What can I do?
[00:02:06]  Some people have private jets, yachts, second or third homes.
[00:02:11]  Now, you are probably like, I want the private jet, the yacht, the second or third home.
[00:02:15]  You should want that stuff.
[00:02:16]  But guess what?
[00:02:17]  You have a thing that millions of people wish they had.
[00:02:22]  And that's you have something you can do every single day to help save the country.
[00:02:26]  You have an action item where you could say, you know what?
[00:02:30]  The country's falling apart.
[00:02:32]  It's collapsing.
[00:02:32]  We're seeing Western civilization basically be stolen from us by some really, really bad people.
[00:02:40]  But you're going to be able to say for the rest of your life that you took your college and high school years and you decided to stand for truth to save the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.
[00:02:54]  And not only that, you give millions of people hope.
[00:03:00]  Literally millions of people.
[00:03:02]  Being part of Turning Point USA, we are the largest organization in the country of its kind.
[00:03:08]  Whether it be on social media, on campus, what we're doing with TPUSA Faith, you are all on the front lines and making a huge difference of that.
[00:03:16]  And we have now over 270,000 people that donate to Turning Point USA that help make this possible, that you guys get to stay in hotels, that you guys get to travel here, that you guys get to have meals.
[00:03:28]  Why do they give money?
[00:03:29]  Why do they give $10?
[00:03:31]  Some people give a lot more than $10 because they're betting on you.
[00:03:36]  Like, what do you mean?
[00:03:36]  Like, I'm a high school kid.
[00:03:38]  I'm a college kid.
[00:03:39]  It's because they know that the great hope to defeat these godless Marxists is joyful, strong conservatives on high school and college campuses pushing back against this Marxist garbage.
[00:03:55]  They're betting on you.
[00:03:57]  They're betting on your engagement, your activism, your recruitment, your courage.
[00:04:03]  That should give you, that should honestly give you some pride in a good way, not the pride that we had in the month of June.
[00:04:11]  Not good.
[00:04:12]  That should give you some gratitude as well.
[00:04:15]  That I'm sure you have a lot of friends that are very upset, neurotic, liberal, but I repeat myself.
[00:04:24]  And they're on the left and they're looking for purpose.
[00:04:27]  You have purpose.
[00:04:28]  You get to be part of a movement that is against everything the world tells you.
[00:04:35]  The world tells you, and that's fun actually when you're young.
[00:04:38]  What does the world tell you?
[00:04:39]  The world tells you your country sucks.
[00:04:41]  We say America's great.
[00:04:44]  The world says that your history is full of white men that you shouldn't study.
[00:04:50]  We believe that our history is beautiful and needs to be understood and passed down to future generations.
[00:04:57]  The world tells you, take any substance you want to take whenever you want to take it, and that will give you happiness.
[00:05:04]  We believe that that's an empty way to live your life.
[00:05:07]  And then if you experiment with that stuff, it's not going to end well for you.
[00:05:10]  And that hopefully one day you'll realize the people that are best at saying no actually are the happiest people in the world.
[00:05:17]  The rest of the world tells you that there is no such thing as biological men or women.
[00:05:24]  We think the trans people are tyrants and zealots and need to be repudiated from decent and civil society.
[00:05:35]  You get to now be part of something that is not just rebellious, but honestly, it's exciting.
[00:05:42]  It's exciting and it should be because you're fighting for things that will honestly decide whether or not this civilization continues.
[00:05:50]  And it all happens in the high schools and the college campuses.
[00:05:53]  You are the left's worst nightmare.
[00:05:56]  If you did not exist, which again, Turning Point USA, it's 11 years old.
[00:05:59]  When we first started, it was like three of us.
[00:06:02]  Not three staff members, like three of us.
[00:06:06]  And now we are a movement where we have 270,000 donors and millions of members and thousands of chapters.
[00:06:12]  And it's like beyond comprehension.
[00:06:16]  And before I go any further, I refuse to take credit for it.
[00:06:21]  You are blessed to have the best staff in the conservative movement that work their tail off to make what you do possible.
[00:06:30]  From the events team, from your regional managers, to your directors, to the people that show up on campus that are relentlessly nagging you.
[00:06:38]  Come on, let's go table.
[00:06:39]  Let's do this event.
[00:06:42]  They deserve your gratitude.
[00:06:43]  And we give you our gratitude as well.
[00:06:46]  And I'll get to that because what you do is very hard.
[00:06:48]  But now you're part of something that is not a question of if it will be.
[00:06:52]  Turning point will be in the history books.
[00:06:55]  Okay?
[00:06:56]  Turning point has already played a massive role over the last decade, is now being this unexpected force that's bigger than all of us to defend the values of Western society and civilization.
[00:07:08]  And we don't know how this story is going to end.
[00:07:10]  We have no idea.
[00:07:12]  Are we going to win or are we going to lose?
[00:07:14]  I have no idea.
[00:07:16]  No idea.
[00:07:17]  But here's what I can say.
[00:07:18]  And here's what you'll be able to say: is we gave it everything we possibly could.
[00:07:22]  And we did not sit on the sidelines as these people decided to try to ruin our home and destroy the country.
[00:07:30]  Because I'm sure you have a lot of friends that are enjoying their summer right now.
[00:07:34]  Losers?
[00:07:36]  You get to be part of something important.
[00:07:39]  And they're going to be complaining to you in October, November when you go back on campus, like, my life is no purpose.
[00:07:45]  Get me more antidepressants, or let's go do another weed, or like, think of weed or whatever.
[00:07:50]  Whatever.
[00:07:52]  And you're like, okay, hopefully you don't engage in that.
[00:07:56]  But you're doing something here at the Turning Point USA Chapter Leadership Summit that is good for your soul.
[00:08:06]  It's good for who you're going to be 20 or 30 years from now.
[00:08:11]  And never before has it been as important as it is to then send all of you back to your high school and college campuses to say that's a bad idea.
[00:08:21]  No, there's only two sexes.
[00:08:24]  No, I'm not going to call you by those pronouns.
[00:08:27]  No, America is actually a great country.
[00:08:29]  No, I'm not going to allow the chemical castration of children.
[00:08:34]  No, George Washington was a badass and I really like him.
[00:08:37]  No, like, I'm not going to go take down a statue because you're offended by history that you don't even understand.
[00:08:43]  No, I'm not going to stop saying that life begins at conception.
[00:08:47]  I'm not going to stop doing that.
[00:08:51]  And if every one of you take that cheerful, joyful attitude back to your campuses, we are going to be in a much better spot.
[00:09:00]  I'm not going to say we're going to save the country because I don't know.
[00:09:02]  We're up against some big forces.
[00:09:03]  You know it, right?
[00:09:05]  But there will always be a remnant.
[00:09:08]  Even if the bad guys win, we're young and we're going to have to live in this country and we're going to build something beautiful.
[00:09:14]  Whether it's now or in five years or 10 years or 20 years or in 30 years, I have no idea.
[00:09:19]  I don't know what this country is going to look like in 10 years.
[00:09:22]  I hope we can turn some things around.
[00:09:23]  Some ways it looks like the country is just like so far apart and people don't want to work anymore and all this.
[00:09:29]  But then I say, wait a second, there's a lot of goodness happening in the country.
[00:09:33]  We have 600 people under the age of 22 that are super activists that are deciding you are all voluntarily doing something where you're saying, I want my life to be harder.
[00:09:45]  It would be easier, any one of you, if you were here and, you know, instead of turning point USA, it was like transing the country USA.
[00:09:55]  You would get corporate donations.
[00:09:57]  You would get sponsorships with beer companies.
[00:10:00]  You would get, Target would want you to go model for them.
[00:10:05]  Your administration would give you special privileges.
[00:10:08]  You would be on the website of whatever godless college that you go to.
[00:10:14]  What college do you go to?
[00:10:16]  Suffolk.
[00:10:17]  You would be on the front page of Suffolk.
[00:10:19]  If you transitioned to a woman right now and wore a dress, you'd be on the front page of the Suffolk University website or whatever godless school you guys go to.
[00:10:29]  But you're saying, no, I think that's bad because I know what's right and I know what's good.

=== Living Without Cowardice (07:18) ===

[00:10:37]  And so when you say, I want to start a turning point chapter leader, all of a sudden, I'm sure, raise your hands.
[00:10:41]  If you've been graded differently called names, smear, slandered, lost friends, every single hand goes up.
[00:10:45]  Guess what?
[00:10:46]  Good.
[00:10:46]  That means you're standing for something.
[00:10:51]  That means that you are not a coward.
[00:10:56]  That means your life has purpose and meaning.
[00:10:59]  Delight in them calling you names.
[00:11:03]  Find joy in the persecution because it will come and it will come more.
[00:11:07]  We live in a dark world right now.
[00:11:10]  It's not going to brighten unless we turn up the lights.
[00:11:13]  And the only way you do that is with courage.
[00:11:16]  And so I could be like, oh boy, life is so tough.
[00:11:19]  And, you know, keep your head down and do all this and, you know, say, you know, just try to lie to get a good grade.
[00:11:25]  Or I could tell you, you know what?
[00:11:27]  Life goes by like this.
[00:11:29]  And I don't want to live as a coward.
[00:11:31]  And I don't want that for you either.
[00:11:33]  Because you know what a coward is?
[00:11:35]  A coward is someone who is somebody different in public than they are in private.
[00:11:41]  They're different.
[00:11:42]  They have like a, like, well, I have to be somebody in my dorm room.
[00:11:45]  And then once I'm outside, I have to pretend like I'm through all the SJW nonsense.
[00:11:51]  What you're deciding to be is the same person in every environment, regardless of where you go all the time.
[00:11:58]  And that's some, you know who that is?
[00:12:00]  That's a person who's free.
[00:12:03]  That's a person who's free where you don't have to self-censor.
[00:12:09]  And yes, I'm sure we're going to get question after question.
[00:12:12]  We're going to do questions for some time.
[00:12:13]  But Charlie, how should I deal with a professor who's going to grade me differently?
[00:12:18]  You choose.
[00:12:20]  I have great respect for this man, but I disagree with him.
[00:12:22]  Ben Shapiro says you should lie your way through college.
[00:12:26]  He does.
[00:12:26]  He says that you should lie to the professor and write essays that pander them to just get good grades.
[00:12:32]  Some of you might decide to do that.
[00:12:34]  I think that if you lie little, you lie big, and you should never lie under any circumstances whatsoever when it comes to things that matter.
[00:12:42]  I think grades mean nothing.
[00:12:44]  I think courage and character means everything.
[00:12:48]  Now, some of you are like, but I want to go to law school.
[00:12:52]  Don't lie.
[00:12:52]  Go to law school.
[00:12:53]  Let me know how it goes.
[00:12:55]  Go pander to the corporations.
[00:12:57]  Go tell me how it works.
[00:12:59]  The rest of your life, though, you'll be looking around the shoulder.
[00:13:01]  I hope they don't find out that I like Trump.
[00:13:03]  I hope they don't find out that I'm a conservative.
[00:13:05]  I hope they don't find out I'm a Christian.
[00:13:07]  The earlier you proclaim to the world what you believe in, you won't have to worry about them coming after you.
[00:13:18]  But you say, well, my parents, this, make your own decisions, guys.
[00:13:23]  I'm not telling you what to do, but I will tell you this.
[00:13:26]  If you think that you're just going to kind of slow walk, no one's going to detect me, and I'm going to go become a partner at this law firm, and I'm going to go to Yale law and all this, fine.
[00:13:37]  If you can live that double life, but that's exhausting.
[00:13:40]  Why don't you use that energy to go fight these commies instead of having to like dodge their tyranny?
[00:13:47]  Reject the terms on face value and be who you are and what you believe.
[00:13:54]  So, and when I talk to our donors and I talk to the people that support us, they say, Charlie, what gives you hope?
[00:14:03]  And some of these people are afraid to voice their opinions to their neighbors or to their friends.
[00:14:07]  So, you know what gives me hope?
[00:14:09]  Gives me hope when thousands and hundreds of thousands of young people, the students of Turning Point USA, say, I will take the tough path, but I want a deep life.
[00:14:22]  Here's one of the things I want to share with you today.
[00:14:23]  You have a choice, and you've all made the right choice, but I hope you go even further in this direction.
[00:14:29]  I encourage for you to make a conscious decision to pursue depth over shallowness and to pursue things that matter over things that are easier comfortable.
[00:14:43]  That's what you're deciding to do.
[00:14:45]  Ease and comfort is just checking the boxes of what society wants for you.
[00:14:50]  Depth requires work.
[00:14:53]  Depth requires understanding why am I here?
[00:14:57]  Who created me?
[00:14:59]  Is there a God?
[00:15:00]  Why does this country matter?
[00:15:02]  Should I even care about how my fellow citizens are created?
[00:15:05]  Or should I just kind of just go through the motions and try to get the most stuff and kind of keep my head down?
[00:15:10]  A deep life means you're going to have to work for things.
[00:15:14]  But I think we all understand that your generation is the most suicidal, depressed, alcohol-addicted, drug-addicted, and pornography-addicted generation in history.
[00:15:27]  Why?
[00:15:28]  Why is that the case?
[00:15:30]  It's because we have told a generation of young people, no need to dive deep into big ideas.
[00:15:36]  Stay shallow.
[00:15:38]  Just kind of do what you're told.
[00:15:41]  Put on the mask.
[00:15:43]  15 days is slow to spread.
[00:15:46]  Take the shot.
[00:15:47]  Disagree, you're an anti-science bigot.
[00:15:50]  Where's your black square?
[00:15:51]  You don't support Ukraine?
[00:15:53]  What are you?
[00:15:53]  A Russian puppet?
[00:15:59]  Take a knee or else you're a bigot.
[00:16:02]  That's not deep life.
[00:16:03]  That's a boring, simple, robotic, regime-programmed life.
[00:16:11]  You have a different way.
[00:16:13]  You have an opportunity to say, you know what, I want to pursue what is good, true, and beautiful in the world.
[00:16:17]  I want to pursue what things that make my soul activated, not just that give me immediate pleasure or pursue licentiousness.
[00:16:27]  The mission that is in front of you, the charge for all of you is to go through your life in the next couple years.
[00:16:33]  And Turning Point will be a partner with you in this, is to say, you know what?
[00:16:36]  I want to be a leader in my community, a leader in my life, but I'm not just going to do the thing that is the most immediate or that of ease.
[00:16:45]  And so what does that look like practically?
[00:16:50]  It looks like, first and foremost, understanding that if it makes you feel good immediately in a quick rush, it's probably bad for you.
[00:16:57]  It's saying no to hookup culture and that trash that goes alongside of it.
[00:17:05]  It's understanding that if you're staring at your screen for hours and hours a day, that you're nothing more than a product of people who hate you and they're programming your behaviors and manipulating your brain neurochemistry from their dopamine, the noreperephrine, to your hormonal reactions.
[00:17:24]  Decide to be a human being.
[00:17:25]  What a concept.
[00:17:27]  And putting the things that matter that will matter in eternal consequence.
[00:17:31]  Last thing I'll say is this.
[00:17:32]  And I want to just tell you my gratitude and how important you are to what we do for your grit, for your hustle, for your stamina, and for your commitment.
[00:17:40]  Is one of the reasons that I'm not a big fan of college, and I know it's kind of weird because you guys are half in college, but just I'm honest, is because college does not, unless you go to anyone but Hillsdale?
[00:17:54]  We have any Hillsdale people here?

=== Pursuing Wisdom Together (10:17) ===

[00:17:55]  No?
[00:17:56]  No one?
[00:17:57]  Oh, there you go.
[00:17:57]  You guys are exempt from this.
[00:17:59]  So two out of 600.
[00:18:00]  Okay, good.
[00:18:02]  Unless there's another good school.
[00:18:03]  Any other good schools here?
[00:18:06]  Liberty's actually pretty good.
[00:18:07]  Anybody else?
[00:18:09]  UCF?
[00:18:11]  University of Central Florida?
[00:18:14]  Yeah, I don't know about that one.
[00:18:16]  So we'll find out.
[00:18:18]  I'm speaking there, I think, this semester.
[00:18:20]  I'm not, I don't know.
[00:18:22]  University of Georgia?
[00:18:28]  Here's the question.
[00:18:29]  What do you mean by a good school?
[00:18:30]  In their mission statement at Hillsdale, I'll brag on Hillsdale.
[00:18:34]  They say that our job is to make you wise and full of good character.
[00:18:39]  Most schools that you guys go to here in this room, that is not their mission statement.
[00:18:44]  It is to create worldly citizens, activists for a lifetime.
[00:18:49]  What is wisdom?
[00:18:51]  Wisdom is the knowledge of things that never change.
[00:18:56]  Wisdom is to understand: are human beings naturally good or bad?
[00:18:59]  Is there a natural law?
[00:19:00]  How did this universe come into being?
[00:19:03]  Not everything can be decided through a study.
[00:19:08]  Not everything can be decided by scientists.
[00:19:11]  There is a thing called philosophy.
[00:19:13]  Now, some of you probably are like, oh, I take philosophy.
[00:19:15]  Yeah, it's probably trash.
[00:19:18]  You're probably learning Jacques Derrida, Herbert Marcuse.
[00:19:22]  We're going to go learn Machiavelli and Friedrich Nietzsche.
[00:19:26]  We're going to go learn about how the ancients and the classics were all wrong.
[00:19:29]  Like, how about you study the ethics closely?
[00:19:32]  Plato's Republic, Aquinas, Augustine, understanding the thinkers that built Western society.
[00:19:42]  Where does wisdom come from ultimately?
[00:19:44]  Wisdom begins with the fear of the Lord.
[00:19:53]  We are not raising a wise generation.
[00:19:56]  We're raising a cocky generation.
[00:19:59]  We are raising a fragile generation.
[00:20:02]  We are raising a comfortable generation, but we are not raising a wise generation.
[00:20:10]  A wise generation is a threat to tyranny everywhere.
[00:20:15]  You know why?
[00:20:17]  Wise people say, no, we're not locking down schools.
[00:20:21]  Wise people say, why do I need to take the shot?
[00:20:25]  That's weird.
[00:20:26]  Wise people say, no, I'm not putting on a mask.
[00:20:29]  Because wisdom is the knowledge of things that never change.
[00:20:32]  You could be full of data, full of studies, full of meaningless crap that they teach you in these colleges.
[00:20:41]  But if you have no understanding of what is a human being, are you inclined to terrorize another?
[00:20:49]  What is good?
[00:20:50]  What is evil?
[00:20:50]  Where does it come from?
[00:20:51]  Is there a hierarchy to the good?
[00:20:53]  Define courage, prudence, temperance.
[00:20:56]  Name five people before the year 1900 that were heroic, brave, and courageous.
[00:21:01]  Name a founding father that wrote something you can quote.
[00:21:04]  If you can't say those things, you're not going to an institution that is instilling you in wisdom, going deep, but you could do that yourself.
[00:21:10]  You don't have to go to college to do that.
[00:21:12]  You could be self-motivated and autodidactic.
[00:21:16]  You can listen to my podcast.
[00:21:17]  You could read the great books.
[00:21:19]  You don't need to go $200,000 in debt to do that.
[00:21:22]  You could decide to do it today.
[00:21:25]  To go find an answer to these questions, to dwell on the deeper things, where you stop in awe and wonder of things that are beautiful, that which is perfected in being.
[00:21:33]  What I'm getting at is the rest of your life, commit yourself to wanting to pursue wisdom because we need you wise, everybody.
[00:21:42]  We don't just need you activated.
[00:21:44]  We don't just need you motivated.
[00:21:45]  We need that.
[00:21:45]  We don't just need you energized.
[00:21:47]  We need you to be able to tell good from evil quickly because it's coming back and it's here right now.
[00:21:54]  We need you to be able to be like, yeah, it's kind of weird that we're chopping off the genitals of 12-year-olds.
[00:22:00]  Shut up, bigot.
[00:22:02]  No, that's not right.
[00:22:04]  Well, who are you to say what is good or evil or right or wrong?
[00:22:08]  That moral subjectivism that is being force-fed in many of the colleges that you go in.
[00:22:13]  And isn't it hilarious that the moral subjectivists, they're always actually the most moral absolutists?
[00:22:18]  Because then you say, wait a second, is there a moral standard?
[00:22:22]  No, of course not, but you're a bigot.
[00:22:23]  Okay, you call me a bigot means that there's an objective moral standard, obviously.
[00:22:27]  Because by some grading scale, you're calling me less than desirable.
[00:22:32]  You're a hater.
[00:22:33]  By what standard?
[00:22:35]  Everyone is using a standard to judge something every time.
[00:22:38]  By what standard is the most important question?
[00:22:40]  And so therefore, we need a wise generation.
[00:22:44]  Now, some people will say you can only get wisdom through life experience.
[00:22:47]  That is wrong.
[00:22:49]  You can get wisdom through study of the great thinkers and philosophers.
[00:22:54]  Philosopher literally means the love of wisdom.
[00:22:56]  Philos Sophos.
[00:22:57]  Sophos wisdom, philosoph.
[00:22:59]  The love of wisdom.
[00:23:00]  You should all love wisdom.
[00:23:02]  You should all yearn to wonder and to know and to dive deep in the things that capture your imagination.
[00:23:07]  Because when you do that, that will only intensify your resolve to fight to win this battle, to start a turning point group, to recruit more kids.
[00:23:17]  And then you'll find something that your counterparts on the left will never find.
[00:23:21]  I believe the scriptures will lead you to this.
[00:23:23]  You'll find joy.
[00:23:27]  You'll find peace.
[00:23:32]  And that is right there in front of you.
[00:23:34]  My message is not an easy message.
[00:23:36]  I'm not here to tell you to go follow your heart.
[00:23:38]  Bad advice.
[00:23:39]  Don't do that.
[00:23:41]  Do what you want to do.
[00:23:43]  No, don't do that either.
[00:23:44]  Press pause and realize you're young, but you're willing.
[00:23:50]  And I want to figure out if somebody before me wrote something that could be helpful to me.
[00:23:54]  It's kind of cool.
[00:23:56]  How often does a college tell you, hey, you're young and somebody 2,000 years ago might have been able to write something down so that you don't have to suffer as much?
[00:24:03]  No, instead, they'll say they're white, so don't read them.
[00:24:06]  It's probably a bad idea.
[00:24:09]  You guys are on the front lines.
[00:24:11]  I'm honored to fight alongside of you.
[00:24:12]  You are America's best hope.
[00:24:15]  The country is not in a good spot.
[00:24:19]  We're going to talk about that in the coming days.
[00:24:21]  And I know you guys are coming to ACTCON.
[00:24:23]  It's going to be pretty amazing.
[00:24:24]  Tucker and Bongino and all of that.
[00:24:26]  It's going to be great.
[00:24:30]  But you know the number one reason why these speakers want to come?
[00:24:33]  When I talk to Tucker, when I talk to President Trump, when I talk to Bannon, when I talk to Bongino, when I talk to Megan Kelly, it's because they say, Charlie, there is a grittiness.
[00:24:44]  There's an energy.
[00:24:46]  There's a focus.
[00:24:47]  There's an optimism with the turning point students that we don't see anywhere else.
[00:24:52]  They said, we're coming out of our schedule in the summer to Palm Beach because we want to speak to your students to tell them how important they are to save the civilization.
[00:25:03]  And I agree completely.
[00:25:04]  You guys are America's last best hope.
[00:25:06]  Let's do some questions, guys.
[00:25:07]  God bless you.
[00:25:10]  Okay, I don't know how we're doing it.
[00:25:12]  Is that Lacey back there?
[00:25:13]  I can't see anything.
[00:25:14]  So let's try to pepper it around the room somewhat.
[00:25:18]  I hate the word equitably.
[00:25:19]  What is this?
[00:25:20]  Equitably.
[00:25:20]  I hate that word.
[00:25:23]  Hey, Charlie, my name is Caden Smith.
[00:25:26]  Big fan of yours.
[00:25:28]  So at my college campus, we have about five people in my turning point chapter.
[00:25:36]  So what is your greatest advice to combat against people tearing down your table, breaking into your dorm room, and all this other crazy stuff?
[00:25:47]  Wow.
[00:25:47]  What school again?
[00:25:48]  I'm sorry?
[00:25:48]  Mid-Plains Community College in North Platte, Nebraska.
[00:25:51]  So I'm sorry you have to deal with the, boy, breaking into your dorm room.
[00:25:56]  That's, that's, I don't hear that one often.
[00:25:59]  First, how do you deal with it?
[00:26:01]  Attitude-wise.
[00:26:02]  This is another thing they don't teach you in college.
[00:26:04]  How do you handle negativity and suffering?
[00:26:10]  No.
[00:26:12]  Don't do that.
[00:26:13]  Don't do that.
[00:26:15]  Do you complain or do you look at it as a potential blessing in your life?
[00:26:21]  You are 100% in control of the attitude that you bring to things that are out of your control.
[00:26:30]  Secular society and modern society say that you are a victim of your circumstances.
[00:26:36]  I'm here to tell you that you get to choose how you handle your circumstances.
[00:26:41]  And so, for example, okay, our table gets torn down.
[00:26:43]  They break into your dorm room.
[00:26:45]  You have two choices.
[00:26:46]  I'm a victim.
[00:26:47]  Feel sorry for me.
[00:26:49]  I want special rights and privileges.
[00:26:50]  Number two, wow, this is making me tougher.
[00:26:53]  I'm going to grow closer to the people I care about.
[00:26:55]  Our five chapter members are going to be tighter knit than ever before.
[00:26:58]  I'm going to have some great stories.
[00:27:00]  And boy, I'm more motivated to defeat these Marxists than I was before I started my turning point group.
[00:27:05]  Boom!
[00:27:05]  Mindset shift.
[00:27:07]  You have a choice to do that.
[00:27:08]  And our society now is non-stop about something.
[00:27:12]  You are just the creation of the stuff.
[00:27:14]  No, you are a creation of who you choose to be.
[00:27:18]  You are a creation of the mindset you bring to the game.
[00:27:21]  And so, yeah, bad stuff can happen to you.
[00:27:23]  Sickness, death, unexpected car crashes, injury.
[00:27:28]  Do you view it as a chance to become better or not?
[00:27:31]  How many people have read Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl?
[00:27:35]  Anybody?
[00:27:35]  Well, that's actually more handy.
[00:27:36]  I think some of you want to ask questions, so I can't tell.
[00:27:39]  You should all read Man's Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl, Holocaust survivor.
[00:27:43]  No one can say that I'm suffering and then read Victor Frankl's book.
[00:27:47]  The guy lost his wife, concentration camp survivor.
[00:27:50]  And he says, if you go through life with an attitude that this is a chance to improve and become a better person, you have the agency to do that.
[00:28:00]  And so, how do you handle it?
[00:28:02]  Look at it as a blessing.
[00:28:03]  Get tougher, get stronger as a chance to grow your impact.
[00:28:07]  And I will say this again: if you're involved with Turning Point USA, the maggots will attack you.

=== Reading Victor Frankl (03:26) ===

[00:28:12]  Good.
[00:28:13]  You will become stronger while your counterparts grow weaker.
[00:28:18]  Next question.
[00:28:22]  Where are we at?
[00:28:22]  I have Mr. Kirk and the son are here.
[00:28:25]  Okay.
[00:28:26]  I'll stand up.
[00:28:27]  Mr. Kirk, how do we ascend to your level of basedom and also based on the that being based, essentially?
[00:28:37]  How do we make time in our busy schedule, or how would one make time in their busy schedules for the pursuit of wisdom and that sort of thing?
[00:28:47]  Can I great question?
[00:28:48]  What school do you go to?
[00:28:50]  I am the only member here from Westfield State University in Massachusetts.
[00:28:53]  Well, God bless you for being here.
[00:28:55]  I have no idea where that is in Massachusetts, but that any far west you get to Albany.
[00:29:00]  So even further west than Wooster.
[00:29:02]  Okay, okay.
[00:29:02]  Yes.
[00:29:03]  All right.
[00:29:03]  God bless you.
[00:29:04]  Thanks for being here.
[00:29:04]  I'm going to say this as non-braggadociously as a human being can.
[00:29:10]  You guys are not busier than I am.
[00:29:12]  Okay?
[00:29:13]  I'm just going to be honest.
[00:29:14]  We got 400 employees.
[00:29:16]  I got to raise $100 million a year.
[00:29:18]  I do three hours of radio.
[00:29:19]  I have a daughter, a wife, and I got to deal with the New York Times and whatever government agency wants to put me in prison.
[00:29:25]  Okay?
[00:29:25]  If you're busier than me, I'm going to meet you.
[00:29:28]  You make time for what you care about: podcasting, wake up earlier, stop doing drugs, stop drinking, listen to podcasts that matter or Hillsdale online courses, whatever it is.
[00:29:40]  You're not busy.
[00:29:41]  You think you're busy.
[00:29:44]  If I told you that your life will end in 30 days unless you run a mile, run for walk for an hour a day, you'd find time to do that.
[00:29:54]  It's a matter of what matters most to you.
[00:29:57]  So you're probably going to have to subtract something from that equation, okay?
[00:30:01]  The easy stuff to subtract: here's a super easy equation, okay?
[00:30:05]  You could do your own audit.
[00:30:07]  Are you spending time with people that gossip more than pursue beautiful things?
[00:30:12]  If yes, stop being friends with those people.
[00:30:14]  Waste of time.
[00:30:15]  Number two, are you looking at a screen of content that is not teaching you things or fulfilling things?
[00:30:21]  Stop it.
[00:30:22]  Do you have social media apps on your phone?
[00:30:24]  You shouldn't.
[00:30:25]  Number four, are you doing substances that do not make you feel good after you do them once the high wears off?
[00:30:32]  Stop doing those substances.
[00:30:34]  If you're doing those four things, you tell me you're busy, you're not busy.
[00:30:39]  You're distracted.
[00:30:40]  It's a big difference.
[00:30:42]  And so, what my advice to you is: you carve out the time.
[00:30:45]  Hillsdale online courses, CharlieForhillsdale.com.
[00:30:48]  You listen to the Charlie Kirk show, listen to the Matt Walsh show.
[00:30:51]  Listen, Victor Davis Hansen stuff.
[00:30:53]  Like, there's, I could give you 100 books, literally, 100 books to read that you guys could dive into, but you have to want it.
[00:31:00]  It's going to take a thousand hours of study within a couple years.
[00:31:06]  But here's the cool thing: once you go on this, there is no greater joy except getting married, having kids, and giving your life to Jesus.
[00:31:14]  So, like, no, no greater, like, daily joy, like, no, no greater daily joy than learning.
[00:31:22]  The first line of Aristotle's metaphysics: all men desire to know.
[00:31:27]  Dive deep, challenge yourself, read the great books, you'll start to get to a level of joy and understanding of wisdom that I think our generation is missing.

=== Choosing Truth Over Fear (13:11) ===

[00:31:39]  Thank you so much for being here with us today.
[00:31:41]  So, you mentioned how it's maybe not a good idea to go into law, but I'm someone who really enjoys law and I want to go to law school and be a constitutional lawyer.
[00:31:50]  And I think we owe a lot to conservative judges like Scalia, Alito, Thomas, even Rehnquist from the 70s.
[00:31:56]  So, do you think it's better to not abandon these fields and instead try to take over them?
[00:32:02]  As we see, the law has an effect on our daily lives, seen through recent Supreme Court decisions and even through COVID.
[00:32:07]  And what advice would you give to someone who wants to go into law and is a super staunch conservative?
[00:32:12]  No, I mean, look, if you have the temperament and the self-discipline, go do it.
[00:32:16]  I wouldn't be able to go through forced diversity, equity, inclusion courses at a law school.
[00:32:22]  That's what you're going to have to do, right?
[00:32:24]  To go to a respectable law school, you're going to have to write paper after paper on why the Constitution is trash.
[00:32:30]  I wouldn't be able to do that.
[00:32:32]  So, more power to you if you're willing to write that and do that.
[00:32:36]  Every law school is captured, basically, every single one.
[00:32:39]  But you're right.
[00:32:40]  We do need to have people go into elite society that actually love the country and share our values.
[00:32:46]  But everyone's wired differently.
[00:32:48]  I personally would not be able to go through that kind of humiliation exercise against my deeply, deeply held beliefs.
[00:32:54]  But yes, I mean, Amy Coney Barrett, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch is whatever.
[00:32:59]  Scalia is amazing.
[00:33:02]  We need a new wave of conservative legal scholars, and you seem like the type of person who needs to do it.
[00:33:10]  So, I'll back you 100% in that effort.
[00:33:12]  God bless you.
[00:33:13]  Great question.
[00:33:14]  Charlie, on your left, right here.
[00:33:15]  Guy standing up right here.
[00:33:17]  All right.
[00:33:18]  So, Charlie, my name's Charlie as well.
[00:33:20]  I'm from Seattle, Washington.
[00:33:22]  So, we are in the middle of a huge culture war.
[00:33:24]  And I really enjoy the point of view that every chapter is its own military base.
[00:33:29]  And so, every war needs a game-winning strategy.
[00:33:32]  And so, Charlie, as one of our great generals, what's our game-winning strategy?
[00:33:37]  All right, so it's going to be a long war.
[00:33:40]  Let me tell you that.
[00:33:41]  This is not going to end by the break of summer, to use a military analogy.
[00:33:45]  Number one, you do not apologize to the bad guys unless you know you've done something wrong.
[00:33:53]  You do not apologize to the bad guys by forced Maoist style indoctrination.
[00:34:01]  Number two, you never surrender to their will.
[00:34:03]  Number three, you must be happy.
[00:34:06]  Happiness is a choice.
[00:34:09]  You're like, what?
[00:34:11]  Do you know happiness does not happen to you?
[00:34:14]  You need to work on your happiness.
[00:34:18]  That's Prager's book, happiness is a serious problem.
[00:34:20]  It will change your life as soon as you recognize that.
[00:34:23]  Happiness does not happen to you.
[00:34:25]  You choose to be happy.
[00:34:27]  And if your college is not teaching you that, your college is doing a big disservice to you.
[00:34:31]  Why does happiness and joy matter?
[00:34:34]  Because they'll never be able to take that from you if you decide that's who you're going to be.
[00:34:39]  Ever.
[00:34:40]  And again, I believe the true joy comes from a relationship with the Lord.
[00:34:43]  I hope you guys make that same decision.
[00:34:47]  And so we must be joyful warriors.
[00:34:50]  What is the battle plan?
[00:34:51]  More than even law.
[00:34:53]  I'm so glad you're doing that.
[00:34:54]  But we need entrepreneurs.
[00:34:56]  We need some of you guys to go start the next Google, the next Salesforce, the next Ford Motor Company.
[00:35:02]  We need that badly.
[00:35:03]  Can one of you go become a billionaire in the next five years?
[00:35:06]  And we'll have a lot to talk about, okay?
[00:35:09]  Like somebody go found conservative Snapchat or something and like come back in five years.
[00:35:15]  I'll name the whole chapter leadership summit after you, okay?
[00:35:20]  Yeah, I won't have a problem with that 100 million a year.
[00:35:22]  Right, exactly.
[00:35:22]  One of you, please go get fabulously wealthy very quickly because we need our own George Soros, okay?
[00:35:30]  What is the battle plan?
[00:35:32]  We need you guys to go take risks and not just go work for people, but go employ people and go get very rich and then go give money to go defeat the maggots.
[00:35:40]  Okay?
[00:35:41]  So I got a lot more to that.
[00:35:43]  And then finally, in your own personal life, you need to be personally conservative.
[00:35:48]  Men, stop watching pornography.
[00:35:49]  Women, stop watching pornography because a lot of women are watching pornography.
[00:35:53]  Stop doing drugs, get married and save yourself for marriage and then have Mormon levels of children and then get rich and donate them back to 21 USA.
[00:36:02]  Okay.
[00:36:06]  Hi, Charlie.
[00:36:07]  And go to the men's summit, is right.
[00:36:09]  Yes.
[00:36:10]  Okay, so this is actually a really perfectly timed question for that response.
[00:36:14]  It's about mindsets, about happiness.
[00:36:16]  Last summer, I was assigned a book for a class.
[00:36:18]  Another reason to hate college with this one.
[00:36:20]  It was called Bright Sided, Why Positive Thinking is Undermining America.
[00:36:25]  I had to read this book.
[00:36:26]  It was torture.
[00:36:28]  The general assertion is that being hopeful, being positive, being happy, being satisfied with things, being grateful are toxic and are undermining America in a variety of ways, as you went in the book, all to make the not very subtle assertion that it's Republicans, it's conservatives because of all the data out there that we're.
[00:36:47]  We're too happy.
[00:36:48]  Yes.
[00:36:49]  So I wanted to know what your response is and why one of the main points is that we don't like demand enough.
[00:36:55]  We're not progressive enough.
[00:36:56]  We don't want more entitlements.
[00:36:58]  But I think we demand a lot in like a higher standard, not in like handouts.
[00:37:04]  I wanted to know like your thought on that assertion, that book that I had to read for class.
[00:37:08]  So first of all, you should, before you ever, this is a good life lesson, before you ever demand anything from your society or your government or from others, you must demand excellence from yourself.
[00:37:22]  Before you ever demand anything from society or others, you must demand excellence from yourself.
[00:37:29]  If you are unshaven and like waking up at 5 a.m. and doing drugs and being like, the world is so unjust, give me free stuff.
[00:37:37]  Like get your act together before you start to go tell other people to give up their liberty, freedom, and their stuff.
[00:37:43]  Okay?
[00:37:44]  So I want to be very clear.
[00:37:46]  Positive thinking has a bad rap in some way.
[00:37:50]  I think we should be accurate thinkers, but you should also understand that your attitude is 100% in your control.
[00:37:59]  100%.
[00:38:00]  The unhappy make the world worse.
[00:38:03]  The person who wrote that book is making the world worse.
[00:38:06]  But if you're a secular leftist, what do you have to be happy about?
[00:38:11]  Everything the left focuses on is a crisis that is unhappy.
[00:38:16]  The world is ending from climate change.
[00:38:18]  The world is ending from systemic racism.
[00:38:20]  There is no God.
[00:38:22]  Our history sucks.
[00:38:23]  I would be unhappy too.
[00:38:25]  We look at it like, okay, no, there's not a climate catastrophe.
[00:38:28]  We're not systemically racist.
[00:38:30]  We're the greatest nation ever to exist.
[00:38:32]  And I'm made in the image of God who loved me enough to send his son so that I could live eternal life.
[00:38:38]  Yeah, that would bring me a lot of joy, actually.
[00:38:41]  And so, but I don't love that term positive thinking because people think of it as like delusional thinking, where, you know, as Tony Robbins would say, you don't go into your garden and say, there's no weeds, there's no weeds, there's no weeds.
[00:38:56]  You go into your garden, you say, here's the weed, and let me pull it out so that you could live a better life and fix your thinking patterns.
[00:39:04]  And so we, Andrew Tate said this.
[00:39:08]  I'm not an apologist for Andrew Tate, by the way.
[00:39:10]  I think he's got a lot of problems, but I think he was totally right when he said this.
[00:39:12]  All the young men are like smiling now because it's just.
[00:39:15]  Take them to the men's.
[00:39:16]  Yeah.
[00:39:17]  Yeah, no, I like Andrew Tate.
[00:39:20]  I can't hear what you said, but okay.
[00:39:21]  Yeah, again, I'm not an apologist of Andrew Tate, but I think he was right when he said this, which is that society in general wants you depressed and they don't want you happy.
[00:39:32]  That if you're happy and joyful, people act as if there's something wrong with you.
[00:39:36]  But if you're depressed and angry or bitter, they're like, everything's right with you.
[00:39:42]  That's weird.
[00:39:44]  And totally understanding that depression is a real thing and that people can struggle with it and anxiety is a real thing, totally get it.
[00:39:50]  Happy to give you resources on that.
[00:39:52]  However, your attitude is still a choice, and how you act is a choice every single day.
[00:39:59]  Only you are to blame for whether you are happy or unhappy today.
[00:40:04]  That is completely on you, not on systemic racism, colonialism, misogyny, homophobia, or somebody calling you a bad name.
[00:40:11]  Next question.
[00:40:12]  Hey, Charlie, just want to start off by saying really big fan, but I'm trying to do a co-event with the student ministry I'm in, and the president is very adamant about not combining faith in politics.
[00:40:24]  He is conservative, but he, you know, he separation of church and state, he doesn't want to make it political, basically.
[00:40:30]  So, like, what are some ideas that I can propose to him to where we can do a co-event?
[00:40:36]  Yeah, I mean, you should ask him, where does it say separation of church and state in the Constitution?
[00:40:40]  And that'll make him fluster a little bit.
[00:40:46]  I'm pretty outspoken on this topic, as you can imagine.
[00:40:50]  Your friend is wrong.
[00:40:51]  What he's basically saying is he doesn't want to offend people.
[00:40:54]  Well, look, the gospel is offensive, okay, by definition.
[00:40:59]  And look, what is politics?
[00:41:03]  Politics is how we decide who gets power.
[00:41:06]  The Bible has a lot to say about that.
[00:41:09]  The Bible is largely a political document.
[00:41:11]  What is true?
[00:41:12]  What is good?
[00:41:12]  Should we protect children?
[00:41:13]  Who gets power?
[00:41:14]  Should it be separate?
[00:41:15]  The founding fathers quoted Deuteronomy more than any other book, religious or secular, in the formation of our government.
[00:41:22]  And so I understand campus ministry.
[00:41:24]  They're like, oh, we just want to focus on the gospel.
[00:41:27]  You are a weak person.
[00:41:29]  Good luck with your nine people.
[00:41:30]  How many campus ministries can get 6,000 people to show up to an event like we can this weekend?
[00:41:36]  They can't.
[00:41:36]  They're withering away.
[00:41:37]  They're dying.
[00:41:37]  Their membership is going down.
[00:41:39]  Why?
[00:41:40]  Because they're increasingly irrelevant, where they're like, well, we just want to love everyone.
[00:41:44]  Meanwhile, this trans zealotry is spreading the country and they're like, well, we don't take stances on that stuff.
[00:41:50]  Well, you're going to be irrelevant and your numbers are going to go down.
[00:41:53]  If you stand for truth, people will come.
[00:41:56]  If you stand for truth, people will come.
[00:41:59]  Happy to talk more privately with you, though.
[00:42:01]  Thank you.
[00:42:02]  On your left?
[00:42:02]  Yeah.
[00:42:03]  Hi, my name is Jude Carlson.
[00:42:06]  Unfortunately, not related to the notorious Tucker Carlson, but I come from a pretty conservative area, but my fellow high schoolers don't exactly have motivation for politics or getting involved at all.
[00:42:20]  So as having the privilege of being the president of the first chapter at my high school, what would you recommend me do to have the largest impact that I can and encourage my peers to be leaders while simultaneously leading them to Christ?
[00:42:36]  This is a question I get from people of all ages, which is someone who cares asking me, why do other people not care?
[00:42:46]  It's just the way that God made us.
[00:42:48]  A small percentage of the population will care while most people sit idly by and do nothing.
[00:42:54]  It's just the way it is.
[00:42:56]  So the trick and the challenge of the leader is how do we get those who usually won't care to care?
[00:43:04]  That's the challenge in front of all of you.
[00:43:07]  And the number one way is you yourself have to be joyful, enthusiastic, energetic, and you have to be a leader that is worth following.
[00:43:17]  If you are those things, then you have a chance to bring other people into those ranks, right?
[00:43:22]  But again, the majority of the population is just going to be indifferent.
[00:43:27]  Eh, whatever.
[00:43:28]  How many times do you guys hear that when you do this?
[00:43:30]  Ah, whatever.
[00:43:31]  I don't care.
[00:43:32]  Whatever.
[00:43:33]  I don't care.
[00:43:34]  You're going to have to just break through that.
[00:43:36]  Pierce that.
[00:43:37]  Try to make it relative.
[00:43:38]  Try to make it relevant, I should say.
[00:43:40]  Try to make it engaging, informational.
[00:43:43]  But more than anything else, people follow people.
[00:43:48]  And so if you are a leader worth following, who's interesting, who studies, who understands their stuff, that's a great way to pierce through a lot of the cynicism and a lot of the lack of engagement.
[00:43:59]  God bless you, men.
[00:44:00]  Thank you for leading your chapter two.
[00:44:05]  Hey, Charlie, my name is John Walker.
[00:44:06]  I'm the chapter president at Grand Canyon University chapter.
[00:44:10]  Yeah.
[00:44:11]  Nice to see you again.
[00:44:12]  So I had a question similar to the question that was asked over here, but with GCU being like a Christian campus, pretty conservative campus, there are a lot of students that I talk to, especially friends of mine that are like, hey, I respect what you're doing.
[00:44:28]  I don't really care about politics.
[00:44:30]  All I care about is the gospel.
[00:44:32]  You know, Jesus is going to win in the end.
[00:44:34]  So why should I care about America?
[00:44:36]  I hear that same thing from a lot of churches too.
[00:44:38]  So how do you suggest I go about going into these friend circles, going into these churches, and be like, hey, you should care about America because we know Jesus is going to come back and those believers are going to be saved.

=== Breaking Free From Tyranny (14:34) ===

[00:44:50]  But why should we care in the moment now?
[00:44:53]  Great question.
[00:44:54]  First and foremost, does the Bible ever instruct us to care about politics?
[00:44:58]  Yes.
[00:44:58]  Jeremiah 29, 7, demand the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.
[00:45:03]  Daniel, Esther, Mordecai, Jeremiah, Nehemiah.
[00:45:06]  I could go through the list.
[00:45:07]  Joseph.
[00:45:08]  Joseph, one of my favorite characters of the Bible.
[00:45:10]  Bible trivia.
[00:45:11]  Only two Old Testament characters called righteous or who?
[00:45:13]  Anybody?
[00:45:15]  Noah.
[00:45:15]  Who said that?
[00:45:16]  Good for you.
[00:45:17]  And?
[00:45:19]  No, Abraham was never called righteous.
[00:45:21]  No, it's Noah and Joseph.
[00:45:24]  Abraham was called good, but he's not called righteous.
[00:45:26]  But close, though.
[00:45:26]  Yes, whoever said Noah, that's really good for you.
[00:45:29]  People usually, I've been to churches and they don't get that question right.
[00:45:34]  So Joseph called a righteous man.
[00:45:35]  He was also called handsome.
[00:45:36]  That's a separate issue.
[00:45:37]  Joseph was what?
[00:45:38]  What was Joseph?
[00:45:39]  Let's Bible trivia.
[00:45:40]  How could you describe Joseph?
[00:45:41]  Yes, he was young son, discarded all this.
[00:45:43]  What was his role in Egypt?
[00:45:45]  Anybody?
[00:45:46]  Second most powerful, but he was a what?
[00:45:50]  He was, what'd you say?
[00:45:51]  The accountant.
[00:45:52]  Accountant, yes, but he was a counselor to the king, right?
[00:45:56]  God's vision for his people is to be counselors to the king, to correct error into right, to correct lies into truth, right?
[00:46:05]  So should we delete?
[00:46:07]  Should we take scissors and remove Joseph, Daniel, Mordecai, Esther, Nehemiah, and Jeremiah?
[00:46:11]  No, we should look to Daniel.
[00:46:13]  What did Daniel do when a tyrannical government told him to stop praying?
[00:46:18]  What did Daniel do?
[00:46:21]  Kept praying and he opened up the window and he said, screw you, I'm going to keep on worshiping Hashem, Adonai, Jehovah, Elohim.
[00:46:29]  I am not going to listen to your tyrannical order.
[00:46:32]  We talk about Daniel in the lion's den, but we forget how he got in the lion's den.
[00:46:36]  He got in the lion's den because he did not put up with tyrannical government.
[00:46:42]  What does it say in Acts?
[00:46:43]  It says that we will not obey man, but we will obey God.
[00:46:47]  I can go on and on and on and on.
[00:46:49]  This is a luxury of modern Christians that are comfortable and cowards.
[00:46:54]  You shouldn't say that, but I'm being honest, okay?
[00:46:56]  These are modern Christians that have it so good, they don't understand that Christianity usually ends up in the gulag and the death camp and persecution.
[00:47:05]  If we do not stand and fight for liberty, which is God's idea, not man's idea, we will be having theological disputes from prison, and we're all gonna be running prison ministries.
[00:47:17]  But if we stand for self-government and the promise the founders handed down to us, there's a chance that we can continue to fight for righteousness, righteousness, and goodness.
[00:47:26]  And think about how selfish it is, though.
[00:47:28]  Oh, Jesus is coming.
[00:47:29]  I don't need to go fight for other people.
[00:47:31]  What were the two things that Jesus said were the most important teachings of the Old Testament?
[00:47:34]  Leviticus 19, which is love your neighbor as yourself.
[00:47:38]  You guys do know, you know, this is an impressive group.
[00:47:40]  And number two, Deuteronomy 20, which is love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, strength, and mind.
[00:47:44]  Good.
[00:47:45]  So, those two things.
[00:47:46]  How can you love your neighbor as yourself if you live under a tyrannical government?
[00:47:52]  I love, exactly, I love my neighbor so much, I want them to live in a free society.
[00:47:58]  That's what you should tell your friends.
[00:48:00]  That is exactly, it is the loving thing to do to give someone a free society.
[00:48:06]  It is the unloving thing.
[00:48:08]  It is against Leviticus 19.
[00:48:10]  It is against what Jesus told us is the greatest thing to have them live in a Stalinistic Mao-type government.
[00:48:16]  So, take whatever you want, maybe lower the temperature a little bit, and then park it and say, maybe we should think about this.
[00:48:23]  And finally, liberty is to be able to do what you ought to do.
[00:48:27]  We have this short guess where we live in a free society.
[00:48:31]  Does God want you to be free?
[00:48:34]  Yes.
[00:48:35]  God delivered his chosen people from bondage, the first chapter of Exodus.
[00:48:41]  And then rose a king over Egypt who did not know Joseph.
[00:48:48]  Forgets the memory of the history before them, terrorized.
[00:48:50]  Who are these Jews?
[00:48:51]  Imprisoned them, enslaved them.
[00:48:53]  They multiplied like cockroaches.
[00:48:55]  And God went to great lengths to deliver his people from bondage, from tyranny, into freedom.
[00:49:03]  But then what ends up happening?
[00:49:05]  Anyone read the book of Numbers?
[00:49:07]  Numbers 11?
[00:49:09]  They start complaining and they complain and they complain and they complain and they complain.
[00:49:16]  Numbers 11, God's chosen people, 10 plagues, parting of the Red Sea, 10 commandments.
[00:49:23]  Numbers 11, what was their complaint?
[00:49:25]  Hey, God, we want to go back to Egypt because we had, quote, cucumbers in Egypt.
[00:49:31]  You can look it up.
[00:49:32]  Fact, check me.
[00:49:33]  English Standard Version, Numbers 11.
[00:49:35]  They've said to God, We miss Egypt because we had meat, leeks, and cucumbers and melons in Egypt.
[00:49:41]  That's a good trivia question for your friends, right?
[00:49:44]  Name me a vegetable that is in the book of Numbers.
[00:49:47]  Many people don't know it's cucumbers.
[00:49:48]  It's like hilarious.
[00:49:50]  What were they saying?
[00:49:51]  I prefer to go be a slave than to be in the desert, even though coil is blown off course and manna comes from heaven.
[00:49:58]  It is in our soul and our broken spirit to want to be taken care of and live under tyranny.
[00:50:05]  It takes effort, effort of you to want to live free, to want to remind people that liberty and freedom is a value, which is God's plan for his people.
[00:50:16]  Our broken nature wants us to go live under a dictator.
[00:50:19]  That is the spiritual tension in front of us right now.
[00:50:21]  Next question.
[00:50:22]  To your right.
[00:50:23]  Yep.
[00:50:24]  Holy based.
[00:50:25]  Let's go.
[00:50:25]  Now, I just want to say for all Catholics and curious, we will be doing a rosary tonight.
[00:50:29]  We're trying to get a group together.
[00:50:30]  I have a lot of respect for Catholics.
[00:50:32]  God bless you.
[00:50:32]  Freaking go.
[00:50:33]  But anyway, please join.
[00:50:35]  We would love for everyone to come.
[00:50:36]  But so, what I want to know is: so I would argue that Turning Points rhetoric has gotten a lot better since the Culture War tour back in 2019.
[00:50:45]  And a lot of the arguments that have gone on within my chapter have been about what is Turning Point's real goal.
[00:50:51]  You know, people will tell me at least, they'll say, oh, this is all about economics, Gus.
[00:50:55]  You can't focus on the social issues.
[00:50:57]  And obviously, I think this discussion is proving that wrong right now.
[00:51:01]  I kind of want to, just because the rhetoric has shifted so much over the last few years, I want to know what is like Turning Point's definitive stance on social issues, both political, religious, and also how does that go into factoring in who can work at Turning Point USA?
[00:51:16]  Like, what is the standard for what someone should be practicing in their personal life?
[00:51:20]  Oh, I think that's a great question.
[00:51:21]  And so, first, I'll tell you what I believe, right?
[00:51:22]  I think it's rather well documented.
[00:51:24]  I think I've just gone through it, right?
[00:51:26]  Believe in marriage as one man, one woman, right?
[00:51:28]  I don't believe in any of this trans stuff, all that crap.
[00:51:30]  And so, but as far as where Turning Point stands, the most important way that I could address that is first and foremost, an understanding of the principles that allowed Western civilization to flourish and a commitment to the eternal natural law.
[00:51:44]  We go back to the Declaration of the Constitution, first and foremost, the laws of nature and nature's God.
[00:51:50]  How you read that and how I read that is there is a natural law and we should follow that.
[00:51:54]  So, if I were to, because you could go through a million different issues, right?
[00:51:58]  And then all of a sudden, you have like your mission statement ends up being 500,000 pages long.
[00:52:02]  So, I made a decision.
[00:52:03]  I said, you know what?
[00:52:04]  We had this at our training.
[00:52:05]  We believe in the promises of the Declaration of the Constitution, which does cover social issues, by the way.
[00:52:11]  The Declaration, God has mentioned four times that there is a supreme judge of the world, right?
[00:52:17]  And so, if you stay to just those two documents, what is Turning Point's mission?
[00:52:21]  To revive the promise of the American founding as articulated in the Declaration and the United States Constitution, aka get our country back from these people.
[00:52:31]  Now, you might say, Charlie, oh, you know, you're ramping up the intensity.
[00:52:35]  What has changed?
[00:52:36]  I got married and had a daughter.
[00:52:38]  That's what's changed.
[00:52:38]  You want to get radicalized?
[00:52:40]  Get married.
[00:52:41]  With that being said, some of our best activists, some of our hardest fighters in the trenches are people with other lifestyles than that.
[00:52:50]  You know what?
[00:52:50]  I think the world of them, and I'm happy to fight for liberty amongst people, even if I see differently on certain things that they might do in their personal life.
[00:52:58]  So, to answer that final part of your question, thank you.
[00:53:00]  Next question.
[00:53:01]  Yep.
[00:53:01]  Hi.
[00:53:02]  My name's Anne.
[00:53:03]  I go to Hillsdale College.
[00:53:05]  Greatest college in America.
[00:53:06]  It's a great place.
[00:53:08]  Thank you.
[00:53:09]  Okay.
[00:53:10]  So, first of all, I love the referencing to the obscure biblical passages.
[00:53:14]  My favorite one is the talking donkey in numbers.
[00:53:17]  Yep, that's a really good one.
[00:53:18]  Yep, that's really good one.
[00:53:20]  Lesser known one.
[00:53:21]  Okay, so I have been canvassing because there is an election this November in Ohio for something called reproductive health, and it's very vague and nonspecific.
[00:53:31]  But I was talking to somebody about how it is basically a bill that would allow children to get sex changes without telling their parents, and it would aid the people that helped them to do that.
[00:53:43]  And I was having a wonderful conversation with somebody.
[00:53:45]  He seemed like he really agreed with me.
[00:53:48]  And also, he was a trans man, a man who was turning into a woman.
[00:53:52]  But then, after he finished talking to me, he walked away and he told somebody that I initiated a conversation with him and that I was debating and arguing with him.
[00:54:02]  So, my question for you is: how do you respond when somebody is lying about what you've told them?
[00:54:09]  Because I didn't initiate a conversation, he started a conversation with me.
[00:54:13]  Yeah, I mean, look, you just got to be really careful.
[00:54:15]  Anytime you're dealing with activism or engagement with a trans group, they have deep-seated mental problems, and you got to be very careful, okay?
[00:54:20]  It's not a joke, I'm not trivializing it.
[00:54:23]  You got to be really careful, okay?
[00:54:25]  These people are not chemically balanced, they're on a cocktail of drugs.
[00:54:29]  I hope they get care compassionately, but this, you just got to be careful, right?
[00:54:33]  And so, I can't give you, you know, personal advice on that, except for the fact that I'm sorry that you were lied about.
[00:54:39]  I'm glad you're doing that kind of activism.
[00:54:41]  And if, look, if we cannot have a clear societal consensus that male and female, period, like you don't get to go after kids, especially in that regard, then like I don't even know what to tell you, right?
[00:54:57]  But happy to dialogue with you more privately.
[00:55:00]  But I will say I love that you go to Hillsdale, and I love that you're an activist simultaneously.
[00:55:05]  And tell Dr. Arne I say hi, okay?
[00:55:07]  Thank you.
[00:55:07]  Yes, where are we at?
[00:55:09]  Here?
[00:55:09]  How are you doing?
[00:55:10]  Charlie?
[00:55:11]  So, as I said earlier, I'm from Suffolk University.
[00:55:13]  It's in Boston.
[00:55:14]  You're going to transition so you can get on the website?
[00:55:17]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:55:19]  So, actually, my first exposure to Turning Point, there was one that you did a radio show with Dan Ray from WBZ.
[00:55:27]  That was like my first.
[00:55:28]  Oh, no way.
[00:55:28]  That's so good.
[00:55:30]  But so I'm studying broadcast journalism because I'd like to do something like what Dan Ray does one day.
[00:55:36]  And at my college, I write for my college paper, and I'm required to put my pronouns in my bio and my staff page.
[00:55:45]  And I really like the Tucker Carlson approach to like his whole approach.
[00:55:50]  Like, yeah, there's always going to be people that do that, but I'm that one guy that just doesn't want to do that.
[00:55:54]  I'm in one of the bluest cities in the country.
[00:55:56]  What's your advice?
[00:55:58]  If you stand for truth in that, your life's not going to be easy, right?
[00:56:01]  So you just have to know that.
[00:56:03]  It's going to be a non-stop terror campaign where they're like, why don't you do the pronoun?
[00:56:07]  Why don't you do the pronoun?
[00:56:08]  Why don't you do the pronoun?
[00:56:09]  Matt Walsh has the best progression on this, right?
[00:56:11]  It starts with mandatory tolerance, then acceptance, then celebration, then participation, right?
[00:56:18]  And so think about it.
[00:56:19]  First, you must accept the trans thing.
[00:56:22]  Let's tolerate it.
[00:56:23]  Then you must accept it.
[00:56:24]  Then you must celebrate it.
[00:56:24]  And now you have to participate it by the administration of pronouns.
[00:56:28]  Like, well, that's weird.
[00:56:29]  I thought it was all just about tolerance.
[00:56:31]  So I don't know if I want to give you advice or not, but I mean this seriously.
[00:56:36]  You might want to consider this eventually moving, right?
[00:56:38]  Like if you have a chance to get out of the Soviet Union, would you?
[00:56:43]  Right?
[00:56:44]  Because you live in Massachusetts, man.
[00:56:46]  Like, that's where you said you're, yeah, it's not good.
[00:56:50]  Like that, especially on the gender stuff, it is completely out of control, especially in Boston, which is the most academic clustered town in the country.
[00:57:01]  Yeah, it really is.
[00:57:01]  Thank you, man.
[00:57:02]  Appreciate it.
[00:57:03]  This will be the last question in the rank.
[00:57:05]  Okay.
[00:57:06]  Hello, Mr. Kirk.
[00:57:07]  My name is Abibal Hagen, and I am one of the co-presidents at Pepperdine University.
[00:57:12]  Pepperdine, yeah.
[00:57:13]  You answered my question last time about becoming a surgeon and also a mom at YWLI.
[00:57:18]  Oh, that went a little viral.
[00:57:19]  It did.
[00:57:21]  But thank you for reposting on your page.
[00:57:22]  It was super cool.
[00:57:23]  My family sent it to me, and they were like, whoa.
[00:57:26]  But anyway, I have a bit of a different question.
[00:57:28]  So at Pepperdine, there's a really big organization that's called the Global Justice Institute, and they're currently serving in Rwanda and Uganda, breaking people out of prison for crimes that they actually did not commit.
[00:57:41]  However, I joined as an ambassador to only advocate for PAUMEA negotiations in foreign countries because that's something that I'm actually passionate about.
[00:57:51]  I'm not necessarily passionate about the humanitarian acts.
[00:57:53]  I don't really have anything to do with our country.
[00:57:56]  Yeah.
[00:57:56]  So how, and there are many organizations at Pepperdine that are kind of conservative and also kind of liberal just because they have to swing both ways to have both sides of Christianity be service, like some of the students were saying.
[00:58:11]  So how should we as conservatives, conservative students, support these organizations?
[00:58:17]  Should we go all in and try to really maximize that conservative side or just not at all because they're not fully conservative?
[00:58:24]  Yeah, I mean, it depends.
[00:58:26]  I have nothing against helping people in, you know, Uganda or Rwanda.
[00:58:31]  I do, how do I say this gently?
[00:58:34]  There's a lot of good people that do that work, but I also think it's driven a lot by upper middle class white guilt in this country, where they refuse to actually recognize our own country as quickly becoming a third world country.
[00:58:45]  Like, get on a highway, any highway, and drive to the interior of the United States.
[00:58:49]  We have 110,000 people drug overdosing every single year in this country.
[00:58:53]  We have thousands of people being sex trafficked literally through our country every single day.
[00:58:58]  We're like, oh, I need to go to Rwanda or Uganda.
[00:59:00]  Like, no, okay, good on you.
[00:59:03]  But do you focus at all on your own country?
[00:59:07]  Jeremiah 29, 7, demand the welfare of the land of which you are in.
[00:59:12]  Not demand the welfare of a foreign-off land.
[00:59:16]  I'm not against it.
[00:59:17]  I'm sure they mean well, but I'm with you.
[00:59:19]  Like, can we fix our own country before we try to solve the ailments of the third world?

=== Making Freedom Happen (03:59) ===

[00:59:24]  I just, I don't know.
[00:59:27]  So, how do you, I would involve the Paul Mia thing is really important.
[00:59:31]  The prisoners of war are missing in action.
[00:59:32]  I'm glad you're doing that.
[00:59:33]  So, that's where my own sentiment is at.
[00:59:35]  I'm not against international third world charity, but I feel as if it's been an overemphasis of Christian groups the last 20 or 30 years.
[00:59:44]  And there's kind of an indifference with the suffering that's happening in our own country.
[00:59:49]  Thank you.
[00:59:49]  Appreciate it.
[00:59:50]  Okay, a couple announcements, everybody.
[00:59:53]  The first of which, tonight, I think we have a couple slides here that I want to share.
[00:59:57]  Let's see.
[00:59:58]  The first one is tonight on this stage.
[01:00:02]  Okay, James Lindsay, myself, Jack Pasobic.
[01:00:05]  I think Jack is joining.
[01:00:06]  I don't know if Jack, I think he's in Iowa or something.
[01:00:08]  We're doing a show here tonight.
[01:00:10]  You guys are welcome to join for a live taping tonight at 8 p.m.
[01:00:14]  I think that's what it is.
[01:00:15]  Yep, 8 p.m. live show on Rumble.
[01:00:17]  You guys could be our live studio audience, which is going to be fun.
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[01:01:20]  Email it in, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[01:01:22]  We got to screenshot it.
[01:01:24]  And then we'll see who wins.
[01:01:27]  Huh?
[01:01:27]  What if we don't have Apple?
[01:01:29]  What if you don't have Apple?
[01:01:30]  Yeah, it brings you in Apple.
[01:01:31]  Then do you have Spotify?
[01:01:34]  Google Podcasts.
[01:01:38]  Amazon Music?
[01:01:39]  Maybe I'm on there.
[01:01:40]  I don't know.
[01:01:40]  That's a new one.
[01:01:41]  There should be a Droid link, yes.
[01:01:47]  The Debay Light Nevada Valley.
[01:01:49]  We should have the winners chosen by the show tonight because we got to get our names in for secret service, okay?
[01:01:54]  So three people are going to be chosen.
[01:01:57]  And it's worth the sweepstakes, free of charge.
[01:01:59]  Follow that link there.
[01:02:00]  Okay, I want to close kind of how with how I started, everybody.
[01:02:03]  This is an extraordinary couple days.
[01:02:05]  I want to encourage you to go meet other chapter leaders from across the country.
[01:02:11]  What an amazing opportunity to go meet like-minded people, get to know them, and understand that you are in a fight for this republic with the highest possible stakes.
[01:02:22]  I'm thankful for you guys.
[01:02:23]  You guys are the fulfillment of 11 years of a vision of saying we're going to scrap, we're going to work to save Western society and Western civilization.
[01:02:33]  And guys, you are making it happen.
[01:02:35]  And I'm inspired by you.
[01:02:37]  We've had a very, very long week today.
[01:02:39]  We are up at like three o'clock this morning doing things and getting things ready for you.
[01:02:43]  And as you know, we have a little bit of a circus coming this weekend.
[01:02:46]  But this is the most important thing we are doing.
[01:02:49]  We care about you.
[01:02:50]  We're here for you.
[01:02:51]  And when the bad guys surround you on campus and call you names and try to cancel you and try to kick you off campus, we will have your back 100%.
[01:03:04]  That's what we do at Turning Point USA.
[01:03:06]  God bless you guys.
[01:03:06]  Thank you so much.
[01:03:10]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
[01:03:12]  Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[01:03:16]  Thank you so much for listening and God bless.
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