The Charlie Kirk Show - Mass Vaccination, At All Costs with Dr. Peter McCullough and Matthew Whitaker
Aired: 2023-07-11
Duration: 33:51


=== Garland's Surprise Plea Deal (14:46) ===

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[00:01:25]  Matthew, thank you for joining us.
[00:01:27]  Hunter Biden's plea deal could be delayed as Justice Department considers firestorm of sweetheart deal allegations.
[00:01:34]  This is a little confusing to me.
[00:01:36]  So who here is actually making the decisions?
[00:01:39]  Is this the second or third tier of the Department of Justice that is challenging Merrick Garland's plea deal?
[00:01:46]  Here, what's going on?
[00:01:49]  Yeah, I don't think it's that, Charlie.
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[00:01:55]  So thanks for having me.
[00:01:57]  You know, I would say what's happening right now is the discipline of the Department of Justice is fraying because every line assistant United States Attorney knows that this deal that Hunter Biden's getting is extraordinary.
[00:02:14]  As I've talked about many times, it is outside of the mainstream of what these typical deals would get.
[00:02:21]  The fact that they blew the statute of limitations on the most serious charges and were unwilling to bring those in other districts like D.C. and Los Angeles, I think tells us everything we need to know.
[00:02:33]  And I think Merrick Garland is certainly hearing that from the rank and file.
[00:02:39]  And, you know, they're better off to kick the can down the road than to kind of take what's about to happen at Maine Justice and across the U.S. Attorney's offices around the United States.
[00:02:50]  So I think they may want to delay it, but knowing Merrick Garland and the way he's been running the Department of Justice, I would be surprised if ultimately they don't just go forward with it.
[00:03:02]  And because it's just kind of, I would compare it the way Hunter Biden's been going on these trips to Ireland and these vacations with his dad and hanging out at the White House on July 4th.
[00:03:13]  I think they're just thumbing the nose, thumbing their nose at the American people.
[00:03:17]  And it's really a shame.
[00:03:19]  So it all comes down to a judge, Mary Ellen Norika, right?
[00:03:25]  So to explain the process, right?
[00:03:27]  So if the Department of Justice brokers a plea deal, a judge has to accept it.
[00:03:32]  Is that correct?
[00:03:34]  Yeah.
[00:03:35]  So if it was just a plea of guilty to certain charges, then the judge would set a plea hearing and then set a sentencing.
[00:03:44]  This is what's known as an 11C1C plea agreement, from what I can tell, which is that the government and the defendant have agreed not only to what charges that the defendant's going to plead to, in this case, Hunter Biden, but also what the sentence should be.
[00:04:00]  And so the judge can either accept or reject that plea agreement.
[00:04:04]  I don't, you know, there's usually no discussions beforehand.
[00:04:07]  It's a filing with the court and a hearing is set to consider it.
[00:04:12]  But, you know, this judge certainly will know what cases have been before her previously and will know how those cases have been dispatched and what the sentence was.
[00:04:24]  And in this case, you know, this, I think the most extraordinary piece, Charlie, is the deferred prosecution agreement that they're entering into on the gun charge.
[00:04:36]  This is something that's not typically done in these types of cases.
[00:04:39]  I mean, depending on who you listen to, they might suggest this happens all the time.
[00:04:43]  It doesn't.
[00:04:43]  Usually, if you're going to bring a gun charge, you're going to make them plead to a felony and they're not going to get a deferred prosecution agreement.
[00:04:51]  So do you think it's possible that Merrick Garland is getting a little bit anxious or worried with looming congressional oversight?
[00:04:59]  Or, I mean, there's so many other issues involved in here, also including Weiss, the Weiss issue.
[00:05:09]  How do you analyze that?
[00:05:10]  Explain to our audience how you think Weiss plays into all of this.
[00:05:14]  Yeah, so I think the way I analyze it is quite simply that you're right.
[00:05:18]  They don't want congressional oversight of this investigation and this plea deal.
[00:05:24]  And if you still have an ongoing investigation, that limits the amount of questions Congress can ask and that you're really compelled ultimately to answer.
[00:05:34]  So I think obviously delaying this, trying to push it past some later date is certainly going to be in DOJ's interest.
[00:05:46]  The U.S. Attorney Weiss up in Delaware, everyone said, you know, he was a Trump appointee, and there's no doubt that he was appointed by Donald Trump.
[00:05:55]  He had been the first assistant in that office.
[00:05:58]  He was a career, longtime, you know, person that was well known in Delaware.
[00:06:04]  Certainly not what we would think of as a Trump supporter by any means.
[00:06:11]  You know, I worked with him just when I was at the Department of Justice, and he seemed like a fairly straightforward prosecutor.
[00:06:19]  But obviously, if you're, Delaware is a small state, and if you've been in Delaware long enough, you're going to have interacted with and know of the Biden family.
[00:06:27]  And certainly, you know, that this is no exception.
[00:06:30]  You know, nobody gets to political power in Delaware without Joe Biden and his 40-plus years in Delaware politics having some influence on their career.
[00:06:43]  So that being said, I think, you know, the U.S. Attorney Weiss certainly needs to say what happened.
[00:06:50]  You know, he's been a little inconsistent in his two letters to Congress as to how this prosecution went and whether or not Maine Justice interfered with his ability to bring these cases.
[00:07:02]  But we've been told, just to remind your viewers, we've been told that this U.S. Attorney went to the District of Columbia and that U.S. Attorney blocked him from bringing certain tax charges, that he went to Los Angeles and the U.S. Attorney in Los Angeles and the Central District of California blocked his desire to bring those charges.
[00:07:21]  To get around that, it sounds like U.S. Attorney Weiss asked for special counsel status, which should give him access to all the districts, all 94 districts in the United States of America to bring these charges.
[00:07:33]  He was denied that.
[00:07:34]  Now, Merrick Garland suggests that he never asked Merrick Garland for that special prosecutor status.
[00:07:40]  That's uh, a little bit too nuanced um really, for the purposes here.
[00:07:45]  You know, the bottom line is he was blocked from bringing charges, the most serious charges, against Hunter Biden.
[00:07:51]  So the the other question here, you know you, you being acting U.s attorney what is your opinion of Garland's conduct in front of Congress?
[00:07:59]  Do you believe that he lied to congress?
[00:08:01]  Do you believe it's time to hold him in contempt of congress?
[00:08:05]  Yeah, so I I don't think there's any doubt that he has not been uh truthful with congress.
[00:08:11]  Uh, you know, the question is, did he intentionally do that or was he not well briefed and did he not know the actual facts and circumstances of these investigations?
[00:08:20]  You know he promised that he would not interfere um uh, with the investigation.
[00:08:26]  I took that to mean not only will Merit Garland not interfere, but people under his power and control the assistant attorney generals for tax and for the criminal division, the U.s attorneys that are under his control.
[00:08:38]  Uh, and that may not be the case.
[00:08:40]  I mean, depending on what U.s attorney Weiss would say in front of Congress and I hope that he testifies sooner rather than later I think we'll finally know.
[00:08:48]  Uh, and if Merrill Garland did lie to congress, I mean he needs to be held, not only in contempt of congress, but I think this this would be an impeachable offense now, but just from the criminal side, this is kind of the clown show.
[00:09:00]  If they were to hold Garland in contempt of congress, would that referral then go to his desk?
[00:09:06]  Uh yeah, that's the interesting thing about this works, uh.
[00:09:08]  You know, I don't think our founding fathers ever intended Charlie, for Congress to rely on the executive branch to bring and enforce their contempt charges, but that's where we are, and you know they passed a law so so that they could offload that.
[00:09:22]  We know that.
[00:09:22]  You know people like um.
[00:09:25]  You know some Trump supporters uh, in the past have been held in contempt and been prosecuted.
[00:09:30]  Yeah, you know Peter Navarro and and uh, and so you know I.
[00:09:36]  I think, if we look at those cases, you're right though, that the prosecution decision would be uh, at the feet of Merrick Garland.
[00:09:44]  Now he could appoint a special counsel, obviously because of that conflict but, as we've learned, in the special counsels uh, like Jack Smith, and in the Rob Her that's looking allegedly into Joe Biden's uh uh, keeping classified information, those special counsels still report directly to the attorney general.
[00:10:01]  There's really no way for the attorney general to offload that responsibility unless he recused which I have not seen Merit Garland recuse from a single thing yet that that that's what Jeff Sessions would do, but not uh, not Merit Garland.
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[00:11:19]  So, Matthew, if you were to look at public reporting based on your experience as U.S. acting U.S. attorney, where do you believe Jack Smith is going with these charges?
[00:11:30]  Do you think he's going to try a seditious conspiracy charge?
[00:11:33]  How do you think this thing is going to conclude?
[00:11:35]  Yeah, I think unfortunately, you know, based on the reporting, I would believe that, you know, there's going to be a lot more.
[00:11:42]  We're led to believe that he's going to bring more document charges, maybe in a different district.
[00:11:47]  They're not happy with Florida nor the judge.
[00:11:50]  And so, you know, you could see them try to bring a case in D.C. or maybe even New Jersey for additional document charges, which I, you know, I think that case is completely outrageous.
[00:12:02]  I had a really good chat the other day with former Secretary Willkie on the Espionage Act and the history of it and how just, you know, it was been used as a weapon previously in our nation's history by Woodrow Wilson against his enemies.
[00:12:16]  But anyway, and then, you know, this on the January 6th charges, you know, again, all of President Trump's conduct that I can tell, you know, it's been reported is all protected First Amendment speech.
[00:12:30]  And in fact, you know, those of us that watched that speech on that day heard him say, you know, peacefully and patriotically.
[00:12:37]  And, you know, I think that to some extent is a huge hurdle to overcome for any alleged prosecution.
[00:12:43]  But, you know, this, you know, Jack Smith's been a very aggressive prosecutor in his past.
[00:12:47]  He's been slapped down, you know, for previous prosecutions he's involved in, including Governor McDonnell in Virginia and others.
[00:12:58]  So, you know, I think this is going to be a very, there's going to be a lot of new law made, to be honest with you, Charlie.
[00:13:05]  There's going to be a lot of new case law made based on these cases that Jack Smith is bringing.
[00:13:10]  And, you know, I compare and contrast that to the speed with which Rob Hurr, who's doing the Biden case, isn't investigating.
[00:13:18]  You know, we're hearing nothing about that case.
[00:13:22]  Yeah, so Bob Hurr is the special counsel that is looking into the documents with Joe Biden.
[00:13:29]  Is that right?
[00:13:30]  Yes.
[00:13:31]  He was a former principal deputy, principal assistant deputy attorney general for Rod Rosenstein, and then he was the U.S. Attorney in Maryland and Trump.
[00:13:40]  Yeah, no, so is there, is it, if the Department of Justice sets a precedent with how they've indicted Donald Trump with document retention, is it up to Robert Hurt to look at that precedent?
[00:13:51]  Is the way the DOJ works where they just kind of do their own thing?
[00:13:55]  Or is it that, hey, now that we indict a president based on, you know, document retention in this capacity, they would have to indict Joe Biden under the same thing.
[00:14:04]  They keep him unguarded next to a Corvette in a garage.
[00:14:09]  Yeah, the federal prosecution demands that you use the same prosecutorial standard for different investigations.
[00:14:17]  I think that's the whole purpose of having a federal criminal justice system.
[00:14:22]  But that being said, we're going to see if Rob ever does anything with that investigation, what standard he used.
[00:14:28]  Now, remember, there is a memo that says you can't indict a sitting president.
[00:14:33]  Well, but there's also a memo saying you don't go after candidates.
[00:14:36]  So memos don't mean anything.
[00:14:39]  You're right.
[00:14:40]  And there's, you know, the policy is also, yeah, there's a window of time where you're not supposed to investigate or go after candidates.

=== Medical Censorship of Kids (14:27) ===

[00:14:46]  But, you know, we've obviously crossed that Rubicon.
[00:14:49]  You know, the President Trump case, I think, as a historical precedent is incredibly concerning.
[00:14:55]  I think just as a matter of American jurisprudence, we're in a brave new world and we're going to regret.
[00:15:03]  I think our founding fathers would have certainly suggested that we're going to regret this position we find ourselves in as this administration prosecutes Donald Trump.
[00:15:13]  It's outrageous.
[00:15:15]  It's highly unnecessary.
[00:15:17]  And I think it's inconsistent with almost 250 years of our experience here in the United States.
[00:15:23]  Well, it's deeply damaging.
[00:15:25]  And I mean, Donald Trump is going to have multiple criminal cases that he's fighting in New York, probably in Georgia, and then one in Florida and then in D.C.
[00:15:36]  They are trying to weigh him down politically in 2024, not just from a reputation standpoint, from a logistics standpoint, going from courtroom to courtroom to courtroom.
[00:15:46]  And yes, there was a long-standing memo that if you're running for the presidency of the United States, we're not going to indict you.
[00:15:52]  It has to be a much higher threshold.
[00:15:54]  They have decided to obliterate that.
[00:15:57]  Matthew Whitaker, excellent job.
[00:15:58]  Thanks so much.
[00:15:59]  All right, my friend.
[00:16:00]  See you soon.
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[00:17:06]  Let's dive right into it.
[00:17:07]  Joining us now is Dr. Peter McCullough.
[00:17:09]  Last time I saw Dr. McCullough was in Boise, Idaho.
[00:17:11]  Great group.
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[00:17:14]  Dr. McCullough, Lancet study on COVID vaccine autopsies find 74% were caused by vaccine.
[00:17:20]  Studies removed in 24 hours.
[00:17:22]  Doctor, walk us through this.
[00:17:24]  This is a stunning act of medical censorship.
[00:17:28]  This is a high-level paper.
[00:17:29]  It's all the autopsies done across all the different case reports in the world, commissioned by the University of Michigan School of Public Health.
[00:17:37]  Pulsher is the first author.
[00:17:39]  I'm the senior author.
[00:17:41]  Lancet did not view it unfavorably.
[00:17:45]  It triaged it to a lower-level Lancet journal, and we decline that because we're going to publish it in a high-level journal.
[00:17:50]  But Lancet did allow it on its pre-print server, which is non-peer-reviewed, but it went through two sets of checks.
[00:17:56]  It was perfectly fine.
[00:17:58]  Charlie, it was up overnight and it was getting huge surges in downloads.
[00:18:04]  And I think some acting entity contacted Elsevier Lancet and said, take the paper down.
[00:18:12]  We can't let the truth get out about death after vaccination.
[00:18:16]  So let's go to the question: why?
[00:18:19]  Why on earth are they censoring this?
[00:18:22]  I mean, Doctor, if my team tells me you're one of the most published cardiologists in American history, you have a lot of experience publishing data that people might not like to hear, but you have to go where the data leads you.
[00:18:34]  Doctor, why is the powerful Lancet censoring wrongthink that might go against the narrative?
[00:18:41]  What's the motive here?
[00:18:43]  The motive is continued mass vaccination at all costs.
[00:18:46]  And it does mean suppressing information on safety.
[00:18:50]  This has now come out, by the way, in the Kariati et al. lawsuit versus Biden for social media censorship.
[00:18:58]  Social media was actively censoring any information on vaccine safety, just like the medical journals are, including Lancet.
[00:19:06]  It really makes you wonder.
[00:19:07]  So right now there are 120 colleges, by the way, that still require full vaccination, full boosting for kids to go there.
[00:19:14]  And so, doctor, I'm starting to see the Overton window move a little bit, though.
[00:19:18]  Even in just upper polite society, people that were otherwise shills and peddlers of the mRNA vaccine, people that I kind of talk to here or there, they've really turned on this.
[00:19:29]  And there's, I think, a consensus agreement, 60 to 70% of the country that now either regrets getting the mRNA shot, believes it was a mistake.
[00:19:38]  Doctor, let's talk about this.
[00:19:39]  It was maybe 10 to 15% of the country, and now it's 60 to 70% of the country.
[00:19:44]  You deserve a lot of credit for it.
[00:19:45]  Have you seen similar movements in the Overton window?
[00:19:48]  Yeah, I agree.
[00:19:50]  The country and actually the world at large has realized the vaccines aren't safe.
[00:19:54]  They never worked.
[00:19:55]  You know, the CDC vSAFE data, 10 million Americans, 7.7% got so sick with the shots, they had to go to the ER, be hospitalized afterwards.
[00:20:04]  That's a huge number.
[00:20:06]  The Raspberry survey this fall sadly showed one in four Americans know somebody who's died of the vaccine.
[00:20:13]  I mean, that's a huge, huge number.
[00:20:16]  Now we have these data showing that, you know, the autopsies when they're done, and we had a standard search methodology, standard adjudication, people expert in cardiac pathology, including myself, we know what we're looking at.
[00:20:29]  And, you know, Lancet, Lancet said, you know, the methodology didn't support the conclusions, but they didn't say what about the methodology.
[00:20:36]  And they certainly didn't have problems when we are putting it up on the preprint server.
[00:20:40]  I think this is censorship after the fact.
[00:20:43]  And I think it's probably influenced by what we term in my book, a biopharmaceutical complex, a syndicate that's formed out there that does have an agenda for worldwide mass vaccination.
[00:20:54]  It really is a syndicate.
[00:20:56]  Let's go to the next story here.
[00:20:57]  New study finds zero Amish children diagnosed with cancer, diabetes, or autism.
[00:21:05]  This is a third rail, a third rail, doctor.
[00:21:07]  What does this study show?
[00:21:09]  You know, this is indicating the results of what's called going natural.
[00:21:14]  That is, in today's modern day world, where we don't have the old threats of diphtheria, pertussis, measles, German measles, polio, improvement in environmental water supply, living conditions, et cetera.
[00:21:27]  We simply don't have those threats.
[00:21:29]  Now the Amish are a real living experiment that going natural has very good outcomes and it raises the issue.
[00:21:36]  Mass vaccination of these legacy problems in children, could it be causing autoimmune conditions like asthma, atopic dermatitis, tympanostomy tubes, diabetes, ADD, autism spectrum disorder?
[00:21:50]  Three studies support the Amish, one by Miller, Thomas, and Hooker.
[00:21:57]  All show going natural with no childhood vaccines in the modern day certainly is safe and the kids are healthier than their vaccinated cohort.
[00:22:07]  So, doctor, we've seen autism used to be one in a thousand or one in 2,000.
[00:22:13]  Now it's for young boys, one in 27 to 35.
[00:22:16]  I can't remember the number, somewhere in that.
[00:22:18]  Do you believe, based on the data that you have available, that mass vaccination could potentially be one of the reasons as to why the autism rates have skyrocketed in the last decade or two?
[00:22:30]  I think you stated it right.
[00:22:31]  Could potentially be.
[00:22:33]  Here's where we are, Charlie.
[00:22:34]  We've got about 800 papers in the pre-reviewed literature, about 200 showing that autism and ADD are actually a neurologic consequence of the immune system, something the immune system in childhood.
[00:22:47]  The obvious perturbation of the immune system is hyper-vaccination.
[00:22:51]  The kids are receiving multiple vaccines in single shots now, having dramatic immune system activation.
[00:22:59]  Some children clearly have fever, some tonic clonic jerking, eye movements, and then actually febrile seizures.
[00:23:07]  Then after that, they clinically have autism.
[00:23:09]  So, I mean, those cases, I think, are clear.
[00:23:12]  But the preponderance of literature now is pointing to a connection.
[00:23:16]  It's making everybody very concerned.
[00:23:18]  Yeah.
[00:23:18]  And I mean, there are a lot of parents out there that want to delay vaccines.
[00:23:22]  And the problem is, Doctor, can you help me understand this?
[00:23:25]  Why is it that 99% of pediatricians are pathological when it comes to the full CDC schedule?
[00:23:33]  In fact, they won't allow kids to go to some summer camps or some schools.
[00:23:36]  What is it in the medical training that creates almost a religious commitment to mass childhood vaccination with no delays, no questions?
[00:23:46]  On the three-month mark, you must go through these six vaccines, hepatitis B, hepatitis A, you know, Prevnar, polio.
[00:23:55]  Some of those things might have some interesting, you know, counterpoints, but then, you know, chickenpox, DTAP, is there a money incentive?
[00:24:03]  Is there insurance incentive?
[00:24:05]  Or is it the way they are trained?
[00:24:07]  It's the way they're trained.
[00:24:08]  And, you know, there's been about 150-year vaccine ideology that the ideology is that the human system is inherently weak, that man can make it better, that vaccines are good.
[00:24:20]  By the way, Charlie, the same ideology is in veterinary medicine.
[00:24:23]  Every year, there's more and more vaccines for pets and for livestock.
[00:24:27]  So it's the same ideology.
[00:24:29]  It's never considered that we can challenge it.
[00:24:32]  We can never challenge vaccines.
[00:24:33]  And now with the COVID-19 vaccine added to the childhood schedule, everyone's saying, wait a minute, this doesn't make sense.
[00:24:40]  The financial incentives to pediatricians actually are the capper.
[00:24:44]  They're with strong ideology, strong orthodoxy, and then financial incentives.
[00:24:49]  The doctors end up railroading them on the parents without any fair discussion of safety and clinical.
[00:24:55]  No, and there's this mass guilt.
[00:24:57]  I mean, so there's some of the vaccines might be necessary.
[00:25:00]  I'm not an expert on this, but if you even ask a question like, hey, maybe we couldn't go back to like the 1984 schedule, they say you're anti-vax.
[00:25:10]  But doctor, also, it is the rapidity.
[00:25:13]  They will go through five or six or seven vaccines in one doctor's office, right?
[00:25:19]  One doctor's visit, correct?
[00:25:20]  Right.
[00:25:21]  And, you know, it's not just autism, ADD, but it's also allergic asthma, knee for tympanostomy tubes, ectopic dermatitis.
[00:25:30]  There's a clear risk of febrile seizure and death.
[00:25:33]  That's been reported with multiple vaccines given at one time.
[00:25:37]  You know, so one proposal would be to make it much more risk stratified, space them out.
[00:25:43]  For instance, little boys don't have any consequences from rubella or German measles.
[00:25:47]  It's always girls approaching childbearing years.
[00:25:49]  So we could take the boys out of the rubella program, for instance.
[00:25:53]  Hepatitis B, it's only needed in babies at birth, active drug using mothers or those with active hepatitis B. All the other children can actually skip it.
[00:26:03]  And then if they become a healthcare worker later on, like me, they can take it.
[00:26:06]  So I'm not anti-vax.
[00:26:08]  Charlie, you know, I've taken every vaccine.
[00:26:10]  I counted up the number of shots I personally received in life.
[00:26:12]  It's 69.
[00:26:14]  I've been like a push pincushion.
[00:26:16]  That's a lot, doctor, but that's under the childhood vaccination schedule right now.
[00:26:20]  I know, but listen, Charlie, I'm 60 years old.
[00:26:23]  Do you know what a child today would accumulate?
[00:26:25]  That's right, it's 75.
[00:26:27]  Yeah.
[00:26:28]  So, no, it's going to be way more than 100.
[00:26:29]  No, because the multiplicity, I got to skip chickenpox and all the other vaccines.
[00:26:37]  So the bottom line is even lightly vaccinated.
[00:26:40]  I'm at 69 shots.
[00:26:41]  40 of them have been flu shots.
[00:26:44]  But the question is being asked, when is it too much?
[00:26:47]  And the data may be emerging now.
[00:26:49]  It's too much.
[00:26:50]  We probably are going to need to go to risk stratification for what's really needed, what's really appropriate, and not just pummel these kids with salvos of vaccines.
[00:27:01]  Yeah.
[00:27:01]  And so, but doctor, can you also mention that as modern medicine progresses on the treatment side, is it always necessary to then, is there a question of do you need to then inoculate against the potential disease or bacterial infection if your treatments have improved?
[00:27:15]  For example, we can control fevers better.
[00:27:18]  You know, we have more targeted antibiotics, for example, against, you know, meningitis or, you know, whooping cough.
[00:27:25]  Is that ever factored into the conversation?
[00:27:27]  Or is mass inoculation the only methodology that we're willing to embrace?
[00:27:33]  No, it should be factored in the consequence, the conversation for sure.
[00:27:38]  You know, for sure, diphtheria and pertussis, Charlie, are treated with a ZPAC.
[00:27:43]  Tetanus nowadays, a good wound care.
[00:27:45]  We just don't have petanus outbreaks.
[00:27:47]  It's easy to treat.
[00:27:48]  You always give antibiotics with deep tissue wounds anyway.
[00:27:51]  Measles is very well supported.
[00:27:53]  It's a mild illness.
[00:27:55]  Mumps, again, very supportable.
[00:27:58]  Congenital rubella, I think there would be a case in women.
[00:28:01]  Congenital rubella syndrome is terrible.
[00:28:04]  Can be, you know, the vaccine there is effective.
[00:28:06]  There's a case there.
[00:28:07]  Hepatitis B would only be for healthcare workers or high-risk people later on in life.
[00:28:13]  The pneumococcal vaccine and flu vaccines, they simply don't work.
[00:28:16]  And recent studies show they have no protection against serious outcomes.
[00:28:19]  So I think the vaccine schedule could really be streamlined and we could probably de-risk it a lot.
[00:28:26]  The kids right now who are skipping all the vaccines though, including this study you brought up, they look the best.
[00:28:32]  Going natural right now looks the best.
[00:28:35]  Dr. Peter McCullough, I wish we had more time.
[00:28:37]  Thank you for joining our program.
[00:28:39]  And again, this is considered to be the third rail of third rail.
[00:28:42]  People are afraid to even ask this, but I could tell you what.
[00:28:44]  We get thousands of emails from young mothers and parents that are guilt-tripped by their pediatricians, held hostage by not allowing to send their kids to school because they're not perfectly on schedule, that they might want 80% of the vaccines that they say, wait a second, why don't I need hepatitis B?
[00:28:58]  And they will threaten these children, never asking about adverse events or effects, can't even have dialogue or discussion.
[00:29:05]  The current vaccine environment in America is one of the most totalitarian landscapes of discussion.

=== Totalitarian Vaccine Landscape (04:37) ===

[00:29:13]  It is totalitarian.
[00:29:14]  It's very similar to what we went through COVID.
[00:29:16]  Dr. McCullough, thank you so much.
[00:29:19]  Just to make our position very clear, we don't know the answer, but probably too much on the childhood vaccination schedule.
[00:29:25]  Do what you see fit, but no parent should be guilt-tripped by a pediatrician and felt as if they're a mass murder.
[00:29:31]  You're going to lose your kid.
[00:29:32]  It's wrong.
[00:29:33]  It's terrible.
[00:29:33]  It's disgusting.
[00:29:34]  It's vile.
[00:29:34]  It's wrong.
[00:29:35]  Happens all the time.
[00:29:37]  Praise God, we have a great pediatrician.
[00:29:41]  Again, get your tickets, tpaction.com.
[00:29:43]  That is tpaction.com for our event.
[00:29:46]  Give you a little bit of an update of how things are progressing.
[00:29:50]  You know, we go into these events and we host them at Turning Point, and the team does such a great job working so hard.
[00:29:56]  And I have to tell you, we've done a lot of events.
[00:29:58]  I think this is probably the best speaker lineup we've ever had in turning point history.
[00:30:02]  And we've had some, boy, we've had some beauties, I'll tell you.
[00:30:06]  You got President Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, Dan Bongino, Steve Bannon, Don Jr., Josh Hawley, JD Vance, Eric Schmidt, Roger Stone, Matt Gates.
[00:30:19]  And so when we go into this, I was expecting a fair amount of presidential candidates.
[00:30:26]  So we have six presidential candidates that are showing up.
[00:30:30]  Vivek Ramaswamy, Donald Trump, Eric Suarez, Governor Asa Hutchinson from Arkansas, Ryan Binkley, and others.
[00:30:41]  So we've received a no from Nikki Haley.
[00:30:43]  She has another commitment that must be more important than speaking to 6,000 super activists in the millions online.
[00:30:49]  Tim Scott is a no.
[00:30:51]  Mike Pence is a no.
[00:30:52]  Chris Christie, hardest campaign to get in touch with.
[00:30:55]  So it's not a yes or a no.
[00:30:56]  This is like completely incommunicado.
[00:30:59]  So hopefully he'll show up.
[00:31:01]  And who am I forgetting here?
[00:31:04]  I guess Will Heard, I don't really even know how we can get in touch with him.
[00:31:07]  Larry Elder hasn't contacted us back.
[00:31:09]  I expected more.
[00:31:10]  Doug Bergham, I don't think, is going to be able to make it, which is just perplexing.
[00:31:13]  It's like, where else could you possibly be this weekend that is more important than speaking to 6,000 people in person?
[00:31:22]  Millions of people online, literally, in charge of the super activists.
[00:31:26]  We got GOP chairmen there.
[00:31:27]  We got precinct committeemen there.
[00:31:29]  We got major donors there.
[00:31:30]  We got hundreds of our biggest donors.
[00:31:32]  But there must be something more important that is going on somewhere else.
[00:31:36]  But it's a testament to Governor Hutchinson, to who wants to attend, Mayor Suarez, Donald Trump, and Vivek Ramaswamy, and then Ryan Binkley and possibly others running for the presidency.
[00:31:48]  And it will be very interesting.
[00:31:50]  Again, we don't script any of our speakers, but I like watching.
[00:31:52]  I watch all the speeches.
[00:31:54]  And we'll see what they talk about.
[00:31:58]  What is the theme of the conservative movement?
[00:32:02]  It will be decided this weekend in Palm Beach.
[00:32:05]  It'd be fascinating to look at.
[00:32:07]  I think we have more, we have more press times 10 than presidential candidates that are showing up.
[00:32:13]  But we have a fair amount.
[00:32:15]  Doug Bergham is a maybe.
[00:32:16]  Good.
[00:32:16]  Hope he shows up.
[00:32:17]  By the way, I hope Mike Pence and Chris Christie and Nikki Haley, I hope they reconsider.
[00:32:22]  Now, some of you might say, Charlie, you're not fans of some of these people.
[00:32:24]  Why do you recon?
[00:32:26]  This is a program for the grassroots to be presented fairly and honestly and ethically.
[00:32:33]  Everyone gets a fair shake to make their case to the grassroots.
[00:32:37]  It's very simple.
[00:32:38]  We're honest brokers here.
[00:32:40]  Everyone will be respected.
[00:32:41]  Everyone will be given stage time.
[00:32:43]  I'm very, very firm about this.
[00:32:46]  And let's be honest, if they're afraid to speak to a Republican audience, how do they think that they can win the presidency?
[00:32:53]  We've yet to hear back from Governor DeSantis.
[00:32:56]  He's a maybe.
[00:32:57]  It is in his home state, so we hope he'll be able to make it.
[00:32:59]  The first speaker to confirm, though, was Donald Trump.
[00:33:02]  Vivek and Donald Trump were about simultaneous.
[00:33:04]  And Trump is like, I want to be there.
[00:33:06]  Bring it on.
[00:33:06]  Let's go.
[00:33:08]  A lot of respect for that.
[00:33:10]  Again, you might not, some of these people say, oh, you know, I want to, I might have another event there.
[00:33:19]  There's something more important than the Turning Point Action Conference, the center of the conservative movement.
[00:33:23]  Very thankful for what we've been able to create.
[00:33:25]  Be part of it, tpaction.com.
[00:33:27]  And I will be watching with curiosity.
[00:33:30]  If any other presidential candidates confirm, we shall see.
[00:33:37]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
[00:33:38]  Email us your thoughts.
[00:33:39]  As always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:33:42]  Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.
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