The Charlie Kirk Show - Speaking the Truth When it Hurts — LIVE from We the Patriots
Aired: 2023-07-05
Duration: 53:19


=== Totalitarian Social Contagion (12:17) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey everybody, happy Wednesday.
[00:00:01]  My conversation, my speech at We the Patriots USA, great organization in Boise, Idaho.
[00:00:06]  I think you'll really enjoy it.
[00:00:08]  Email me your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com and get involved with TurningpointUSA at tpusa.com.
[00:00:14]  That is tpusa.com.
[00:00:16]  Buckle up, everybody.
[00:00:17]  Here we go.
[00:00:18]  Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
[00:00:19]  Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
[00:00:22]  I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
[00:00:25]  Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
[00:00:28]  I want to thank Charlie.
[00:00:29]  He's an incredible guy.
[00:00:30]  His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
[00:00:39]  We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
[00:00:47]  That's why we are here.
[00:00:51]  Please take a seat.
[00:00:52]  Thank you so much.
[00:00:53]  Honor to be here.
[00:00:54]  Thank you.
[00:00:55]  I love Idaho.
[00:00:56]  Great to be back.
[00:00:58]  I think this is my fourth or fifth visit to Idaho this year.
[00:01:02]  So I requested that I talk for a little bit, then we do some questions.
[00:01:06]  If that's okay with you, I think that's actually the most fun.
[00:01:08]  And I know there's probably some things that we want to talk about.
[00:01:11]  I love Idaho.
[00:01:12]  It's amazing as I'm driving through the streets here at Boise.
[00:01:15]  This feels like a conquered city, though, doesn't it?
[00:01:18]  I mean, you see the gay flags all throughout the city.
[00:01:21]  What is going on in Idaho?
[00:01:23]  And I've been warning for quite some time that the idea pathogen, the social contagion of leftism, it knows no bounds.
[00:01:32]  It will come to red states.
[00:01:33]  It will come to every single nook and cranny and corner.
[00:01:37]  In fact, this is something we've been talking about as I'm developing my next book, How We Actually Beat the Woke and How We Beat These People.
[00:01:44]  You know, one of the things that I think we're starting to learn, because it's not all bad, but it's just so insulting.
[00:01:50]  I mean, you're driving down the streets of Boise and it's as if you're a conquered country, right?
[00:01:54]  That's what people do when they take over a country.
[00:01:57]  They flip the flags, right?
[00:01:58]  You know, like, who's in control of Berlin?
[00:02:01]  And that's how it feels like.
[00:02:02]  It's like, okay, now we're in charge.
[00:02:05]  As if the people of Idaho want that and they tolerate it.
[00:02:08]  It's just bizarre to me.
[00:02:10]  But it's as if we, for far too long, one of the things I want to chat with you about is I think we have this misunderstanding that we don't want to be mean to the other side or that we don't want to be called intolerant.
[00:02:26]  Now, I've never really subscribed to that.
[00:02:30]  If you follow my work, really don't care.
[00:02:34]  And I also would make an argument that tolerance is not a Christian value.
[00:02:39]  We should not tolerate evil.
[00:02:41]  We should not tolerate children being targeted.
[00:02:49]  And so you have a whole month dedicated to this.
[00:02:51]  And we know what it's all about, right?
[00:02:54]  It's not about somebody who feels as if they're disenfranchised.
[00:02:59]  The whole world is rigged for them now, right?
[00:03:01]  For people in that particular lifestyle, every corporation, every athletic competition, every major influencer, it's all about pride.
[00:03:10]  And, you know, I got myself in so much good trouble, which I encourage you all to do when I tweeted out that pride is a sin on June 1st.
[00:03:17]  You're not allowed to say that.
[00:03:19]  It is the deadliest of all the sins.
[00:03:24]  It's an important reminder.
[00:03:27]  And it feels so forced, doesn't it?
[00:03:30]  Now, mind you, this is the, you know, somebody said the other day, well, Charlie, we're winning because now Major League Baseball got rid of their gay paraphernalia and they went back.
[00:03:40]  And I said, well, that's a good thing.
[00:03:41]  We're making movement, but it's not winning to go back to the logo we grew up with.
[00:03:46]  Okay.
[00:03:46]  Let's not try to convince ourselves that that is some sort of victory.
[00:03:50]  In some ways, it's actually trying to convince us that even getting back to square one has taken all this effort.
[00:03:56]  But there's something changing, and it's a positive, I have to say, because we're going to talk about plenty of the challenges in front of us.
[00:04:02]  You feel the challenges.
[00:04:03]  Something has changed.
[00:04:04]  And I think the trans thing, I think the alphabet mafia coming after all of us.
[00:04:09]  I think the rainbow-haired jihadis coming after our children has really kind of changed how we engage here because where were we three years ago?
[00:04:19]  Three years ago, we were locked down.
[00:04:21]  We were told to be masked.
[00:04:22]  We were under this pharmaceutical fascism.
[00:04:25]  that Steve Dace does a better job than I do talking about and articulating.
[00:04:29]  And then we had right literally three years ago, you remember Floyd Apalooza, right?
[00:04:33]  Where we'd burned down our country based on a bitter lie from the pit of hell that America is systemically racist.
[00:04:39]  Corporations were pledging hundreds of millions, billions of dollars to fight systemic racism, you know, the altar of BLM.
[00:04:48]  And so where are we three years later?
[00:04:50]  The country's in an awful place.
[00:04:52]  The country's not in a better place, macro.
[00:04:54]  But there is a change, and it's happening finally, where corporations are realizing that they're not completely and totally untouchable.
[00:05:03]  I am thrilled to see that Target is now judged as a bearish stock.
[00:05:08]  And that's a great thing.
[00:05:10]  They're down 15%.
[00:05:14]  And Target doesn't understand, well, what did we do wrong?
[00:05:16]  And the media, but this is a very important thing as we enter more into the deadliest sin that there is month, which is that when you go, their operating procedure is our reaction.
[00:05:35]  Okay.
[00:05:35]  So they almost try to provoke us to act so above and beyond.
[00:05:39]  I'm going to show you example after example after example of how they try to make us seem as the unreasonable one to create a misrepresented viral moment that makes themselves more powerful, right?
[00:05:51]  You guys all don't trust the media, but what I, what I want to encourage you is to go a step further into the step further into the belief that some people are afraid of, that you're actually living through an intentional, I think, sometimes intelligence agency funded operation to make you actually outraged and believe a certain thing you shouldn't believe.
[00:06:12]  Now, for you, that's a bridge too far, but eventually you'll get there.
[00:06:16]  So, and but, and I'll prove it to you.
[00:06:19]  From Kyle Rittenhouse to Nicholas Sandman to January 6th to George Floyd, these situations are designed in a certain way to misrepresent something, prey on your emotions to make them more powerful.
[00:06:33]  We are living in the era of clipped, misrepresented, viral moments that are then used with cushy soundbites to make the intelligence agencies and or their power grabs more successful, more powerful.
[00:06:46]  But our reaction to a certain event is where they really get their true power.
[00:06:52]  Okay.
[00:06:53]  So what does that mean?
[00:06:54]  My good friend James Lindsay, who I encourage you guys all to research and to follow, he came on my program.
[00:06:59]  I love it.
[00:07:00]  And so I want to always give attribution to people that come up with these things.
[00:07:03]  He said they're going to try to create a drag Floyd situation in the month of June, you know, drag queen George Floyd, where somebody acts in a certain way where, you know, they're grooming kids, you know, acting like perverts and somebody acts in the way they shouldn't where, you know, you punch a drag queen or something like that.
[00:07:19]  Same exact thing on the New York subway, right?
[00:07:21]  Where it gets totally misrepresented and blown out of proportion.
[00:07:25]  So we should obviously continue to stay peaceful in everything that we do in every way possible.
[00:07:29]  But the reaction is then, it wouldn't be about the fact that they're grooming kids or that they're perverting seven-year-olds or they have tuck-friendly swimwear or they have any of this stuff.
[00:07:38]  No, no, it would be all about a single instance of, oh my goodness, look at those right-wingers.
[00:07:43]  They can't control themselves.
[00:07:44]  Those are domestic terrorists.
[00:07:46]  You see, they're almost, they are going so above and beyond.
[00:07:50]  I believe this is part of the program.
[00:07:51]  They almost want us to lose our mind.
[00:07:54]  And in fact, our secret weapon, which is a fruit of the spirit, is our self-control to not actually fall for the bait when they want us to.
[00:08:02]  I really believe that.
[00:08:04]  Because absent us staying disciplined, staying peaceful, actually, they do not have any path forward.
[00:08:11]  They don't.
[00:08:12]  They need us to act in a certain way.
[00:08:15]  And again, the misrepresentations, what happened on January 6th is a great example of this, right?
[00:08:21]  Where we don't know how many feds were there and re-ups and all that sort of stuff.
[00:08:24]  But instead, they are then able to criminalize an entire American political movement based on a certain circumstance or action, right?
[00:08:32]  So we're living through this month now.
[00:08:35]  And there, for the first time since Pride Month, has become kind of a bigger deal than Christmas in this country.
[00:08:41]  It is.
[00:08:42]  It's a secular religious ceremony, right?
[00:08:44]  There's more ceremony, more corporations, more outward evangelism, more zealotry, more influencers that, you know, literally, you go down downtown Boise or Hollywood, there's more lead up.
[00:08:57]  There's more celebration, right?
[00:08:59]  It is the new state-run religion, which is really something to think about and pray about and hope for, honestly, forgiveness for.
[00:09:07]  So, but as that is happening, this is the first time where finally there's quote unquote some backlash, finally, where not just the target thing, but I think that regular ordinary people are starting to finally wake up and realize that it's never been about tolerance, right?
[00:09:23]  Because like, I think the temperament of a lot of you here, I believe marriage is one man, one woman.
[00:09:27]  We never should have redefined marriage.
[00:09:29]  One of the biggest mistakes the Supreme Court ever made.
[00:09:31]  And I know you guys feel the same.
[00:09:33]  I think some of you, though, I think that many of you, especially baby boomers, I don't mean this negatively, right?
[00:09:39]  You have a temperament of, okay, live and let live.
[00:09:41]  And that's fine, right?
[00:09:42]  I think that's actually admirable.
[00:09:44]  That means that you don't want to overly police people's personal decisions because you would never want someone to police your own, except it was a false bargain.
[00:09:50]  We knew that the whole time, right?
[00:09:51]  It's that they don't want their personal decision to be policed, but they're going to police yours, okay?
[00:09:56]  So it's the complete opposite.
[00:09:58]  It's not live and let live.
[00:09:58]  It's live and let us rule.
[00:10:00]  It's the opposite of what you could ever imagine, right?
[00:10:02]  And so it goes through a very simple progression.
[00:10:05]  Matt Walsh came up with this and he does a great job of articulating.
[00:10:08]  He starts with, okay, you must tolerate it.
[00:10:10]  And you're like, okay, well, I don't want to tolerate it because I don't believe it.
[00:10:14]  So you must go from, you must tolerate something to you must accept it.
[00:10:17]  And you're like, well, I don't want to accept it because it's against my deeply held beliefs.
[00:10:21]  And then you must celebrate it, mandatory celebration.
[00:10:26]  Well, I don't want to celebrate it because like I said, I don't believe in it.
[00:10:29]  And if you don't celebrate it, they're going to oust you and ask you, where is your sticker?
[00:10:33]  Where's your flag?
[00:10:34]  Why are you a bigot?
[00:10:34]  Because you're not celebrating alongside of us.
[00:10:36]  But that's not enough.
[00:10:37]  Then it's mandatory participation.
[00:10:39]  And if not for you, mandatory participation for your kids.
[00:10:43]  And this is one of the reasons why I kind of cringe when people say, you know, we're, I'm a classical liberal.
[00:10:50]  And I say, okay, well, be very careful with that because this is the arch of liberalism without the wise restraints of what I call biblical conservatism, right?
[00:10:58]  If you are constantly always going to the idea that everyone is going to leave each other alone at all times, you're living under a false construct.
[00:11:06]  And look, I think your temperament is you want to live in the country you grew up in.
[00:11:09]  Same, I do too.
[00:11:10]  I temperamentally believing marriages between one man and one woman.
[00:11:15]  It's like, okay, you do you.
[00:11:16]  That country's dead.
[00:11:18]  Now it's all about totalitarian.
[00:11:19]  The T and LGBT stands for totalitarianism and tyranny, which is I am going to make you and make your children go through the certain practices to believe a certain thing.
[00:11:31]  And, you know, I say this and people laugh, and I don't mean it as a joke, but it actually is kind of funny.
[00:11:35]  You know, we have the gayest generation in history, right?
[00:11:37]  And that's not happening just because all of a sudden young people feel more comfortable to be gay.
[00:11:43]  It's because this is a lifestyle that actually is considered to come with points and privileges and rewards, that you actually are able to become more important.
[00:11:52]  In fact, you're able to claim some sort of progress on the oppression Olympic ladder.
[00:11:58]  I get a gold medal if I am trans or lesbian or gay or whatever.
[00:12:04]  And that's a social contagion.
[00:12:08]  That is not a condition or a lifestyle choice or a behavioral choice.
[00:12:13]  That is a social contagion that goes to seek converts.

=== Courageous Voices Against Oppression (05:04) ===

[00:12:17]  In fact, this really fires up a lot of pastors.
[00:12:19]  I say the gay lobby in America right now is much better at winning people for their agenda than most Christians are.
[00:12:25]  And that is 100% the case.
[00:12:27]  It's 100%.
[00:12:29]  They are more effective.
[00:12:30]  They have more conviction.
[00:12:31]  They fear the enemy less.
[00:12:33]  And most pastors are like, well, I just want to get along to get along.
[00:12:37]  I'm like, man, this is wartime Christianity.
[00:12:39]  If you don't want to get along with it, you got to go find something else to do because the country and the Republic's fallen apart and we could talk about that.
[00:12:45]  So look, the other thing I do want to make sure that is conveyed to you, because I know a lot of you are wondering, how do we win that were so overwhelming against us?
[00:12:55]  So one of the most liberating things, and this is easier said than done, that you can do in your own life is you have to understand that the names they will call you will not mean anything.
[00:13:07]  You might say, oh, Charlie, of course that's the case.
[00:13:09]  You would be shocked at how many good people are afraid to take virtuous and courageous action because they're afraid of being called a racist.
[00:13:18]  And they have weaponized name-calling to put you into a permanent paralysis in such a powerful way, unlike anything we've ever seen.
[00:13:27]  The number one complaint that, no, no, number piece of feedback I get in my email inbox from our amazing, and I know some of you listen to our podcast and watch Unreal America's Voice.
[00:13:36]  Thank you.
[00:13:36]  Appreciate that.
[00:13:37]  Thank you.
[00:13:38]  Is the number one piece of feedback we receive is, Charlie, I wish I could speak out like you.
[00:13:43]  And I get that to a certain extent.
[00:13:45]  You're right.
[00:13:45]  You know, we have a whole staff and we have legal protection and the Lord has blessed us so much and we've been pretty amazingly protected.
[00:13:55]  I mean that.
[00:13:56]  But why can't you speak out?
[00:13:58]  Because I'm not exactly sure I'm understanding.
[00:14:00]  Well, they say I might lose my job.
[00:14:02]  I might lose my friends.
[00:14:04]  Okay, the career, I'm not here to tell you to go lose your job intentionally, but you are not a free citizen of America if you have to look over your shoulder every time you have to voice your opinion.
[00:14:15]  You're already living in a totalitarian country.
[00:14:18]  And that's something you could decide to change today.
[00:14:22]  That is not something you need a legislation passed.
[00:14:24]  You're like, oh my goodness, I hate the debt ceiling bill.
[00:14:26]  I hate this.
[00:14:27]  I hate that.
[00:14:28]  Like, okay, fine, totally.
[00:14:29]  We could talk about that.
[00:14:30]  Totally get it.
[00:14:31]  But are you speaking freely?
[00:14:33]  And maybe most of you are, right?
[00:14:34]  Or else maybe you wouldn't be here.
[00:14:35]  I'm probably talking to one of you right now.
[00:14:37]  You're like, boy, I work for this local hospital.
[00:14:40]  And if I spoke my mind or if I did something on social media, they would come after me.
[00:14:45]  You're already living in the Soviet Union.
[00:14:47]  It's already there.
[00:14:48]  But you could choose to change it.
[00:14:50]  And I could tell you right now that the most liberating thing you could do for yourself and for your kids and for your community is to say, I'm going to say the truth, the spoken truth, the logos.
[00:15:01]  And whatever they do to me, I don't care.
[00:15:05]  You will be happier if you do that.
[00:15:08]  And this alone, this alone, if every single person who agrees with what we're saying does that, the country radically changes overnight.
[00:15:20]  Their power is the power we give them.
[00:15:24]  That's a provocative take because people do not like it when I say that.
[00:15:28]  I get angry emails.
[00:15:29]  They say, Charlie, I don't give any power to the left.
[00:15:33]  I even give power to the left sometimes.
[00:15:35]  All of us do.
[00:15:36]  But we disempower them when we say, look, I'm actually going to keep on watching this podcast or this person, even though you tell me that person's a racist.
[00:15:44]  I know they're not.
[00:15:45]  I like what they have to say.
[00:15:46]  I'm going to keep on shopping at this store, even when you tell me not to do that.
[00:15:50]  I'm going to keep on speaking my mind about every topic and I'm not going to live under the Orwellian tyranny of political correctness.
[00:15:58]  And I say, you know, I do some of these segments and people say, Charlie, you're really going to get it.
[00:16:02]  It takes so much courage.
[00:16:04]  Because I get so much feedback and I love the emails and I love, and I just, I'm perplexed.
[00:16:09]  I say, what kind of country are you living in where just saying something super simple, like, I don't know, grooming children in elementary school should land you in prison.
[00:16:18]  That's considered like a courageous thing to say.
[00:16:21]  And it shouldn't, right?
[00:16:23]  And that's one of the calls to action I give in every single audience is because the Marxist totalitarian despots and tyrants, they are very worried that the American Patriots, this great organization, that we're about to leave our cage that they built for us.
[00:16:45]  Okay?
[00:16:47]  That they're very worried.
[00:16:50]  And then some moron that works from Media Matters is going to say, oh, Charlie's inciting violence.
[00:16:54]  No, no, I've actually explicitly done the opposite earlier in the speech, as you guys all remember.
[00:16:59]  What do I mean by that?
[00:17:00]  It means that we're going to voice our opinions regardless of what you do to us.
[00:17:05]  It means that we're not going to pay a tithe to the golden calf of the LGBTQ mafia.
[00:17:10]  We're not going to do that, okay?
[00:17:12]  We're not going to use your approved language of pronoun usage, or we're not going to re-segregate society based on race.

=== Smear Campaigns and Reality (04:55) ===

[00:17:21]  We're not going to say that white people are the enemy in our country.
[00:17:25]  In fact, we're going to say there's a war on white people in this country and it's deliberate and it's concocted and it's serious.
[00:17:32]  And if that sort of stuff makes you uncomfortable, then you're already an unfree person.
[00:17:36]  You just haven't noticed it yet.
[00:17:38]  Now, there's things you can do.
[00:17:41]  There's things you can complain.
[00:17:42]  You're like, well, Charlie, these laws I don't like and these things.
[00:17:46]  There's two types of tyranny.
[00:17:47]  And I've come to realize this.
[00:17:49]  There's a tyranny that is passed by a legislative body or a corporation and a tyranny that's going to require protest and elections.
[00:17:57]  And then there's the tyranny that we agree to.
[00:18:01]  And a free people has to first liberate ourselves from the shackles of the tyranny that we have voluntarily agreed to because we're afraid of losing the comfort of a country club membership or a neighbor.
[00:18:16]  Now, I'm not saying you have to be incendiary.
[00:18:19]  Be the nicest, sweetest person.
[00:18:20]  I mean that.
[00:18:21]  In fact, your charm will win more people over.
[00:18:25]  Be pleasant.
[00:18:26]  Be loving like Christ would.
[00:18:27]  But the part that I just, I can't, if I had to be honest, I think American Christianity gets the loving part of the gospel done pretty well and gets the truth part of the gospel miserably.
[00:18:39]  And guess what?
[00:18:41]  Love without truth is not complete love.
[00:18:44]  It's not.
[00:18:49]  And nothing but truth without love can come across as cruel.
[00:18:53]  It's the same side of the coin.
[00:18:54]  It's a two-sided coin.
[00:18:56]  It needs to be necessary.
[00:18:58]  And so there's a way, for example, you can look at the videos that I do when I go to college campuses and I'm debating students and kids under the trans delusion will come up and they'll say, I think I'm a man and all this.
[00:19:11]  And I refuse to affirm it.
[00:19:12]  I say, no, you're under a torment of a mental issue that I hope you can get treatment so you can get liberated from the torture that you have to put yourself through.
[00:19:23]  You see, people say, I'm being unloving.
[00:19:24]  Do you know what's unloving?
[00:19:26]  Unloving would be to affirm a lie and to keep that person to go on a series of decisions and steps where they then mutilate themselves.
[00:19:34]  They go on antidepressants.
[00:19:36]  They then all of a sudden go on chemical castration drugs.
[00:19:39]  That is unloving to do such a thing.
[00:19:44]  So The movement as it's going right now is very promising.
[00:19:50]  The country's in awful shape, okay?
[00:19:52]  We're about to go through the bloodiest primary in the history.
[00:19:54]  By the way, Trump's going to be the nominee, everybody, just so we're clear, okay?
[00:19:58]  So, and I, and I, and some people love that, some people hate that.
[00:20:03]  Good luck.
[00:20:04]  You want to talk about a lion that you don't want to go up against?
[00:20:07]  That guy is going to eat everybody up and everything.
[00:20:09]  And it's just the way it is.
[00:20:11]  And I love Governor DeSantis.
[00:20:13]  I love a lot of these guys.
[00:20:14]  I'm not going to say negative stuff.
[00:20:15]  I'm not.
[00:20:16]  I don't do that.
[00:20:17]  I'm just going to be, look, those, you argue with reality, welcome to hell.
[00:20:21]  Okay.
[00:20:22]  You could argue with reality all you want.
[00:20:24]  Okay.
[00:20:25]  I'm just telling you the facts of the game as they are.
[00:20:27]  Okay.
[00:20:27]  And if I'm wrong, I'll be the first one to acknowledge I'm wrong.
[00:20:29]  I was wrong in 2020 when I made a bold prediction when I said the church was going to lead the charge against lockdowns.
[00:20:34]  Boy, that was a terrible prediction.
[00:20:36]  So, and I fully acknowledge that.
[00:20:38]  So, you could sound bite me and clip me, and then you could say, oh, Charlie said Trump was going to die.
[00:20:43]  I will fully acknowledge and repent if I'm wrong, and we'll see what happens.
[00:20:48]  So, however, we're about to go through this bitter primary.
[00:20:51]  Here's the thing that I care about most.
[00:20:53]  We could talk about elections if you want, which I have a lot of strong opinions about how the RNC is a waste of rations and should be totally downsized and is lying to you and doing terrible things and all that stuff, right?
[00:21:05]  But that's another separate issue if you guys want to address.
[00:21:08]  More importantly, is an attitude shift.
[00:21:11]  What is the attitude of the right is actually what is going to change things?
[00:21:16]  It's an attitude that just if elections don't go my way, I don't care.
[00:21:20]  I'm going to keep on building.
[00:21:22]  Even if I do not like a way a certain thing acts, I don't care.
[00:21:26]  I'm going to become a better version of myself.
[00:21:28]  I'm going to become a better father.
[00:21:30]  I'm going to become a sovereign citizen.
[00:21:31]  I'm going to try to free myself of any addictions I might have.
[00:21:34]  This sort of stuff disempowers tyrants.
[00:21:37]  They want you to eat crappy processed food.
[00:21:39]  They want you to be overweight.
[00:21:41]  They want your kids to be addicted to screens.
[00:21:43]  They want you to be a serf of Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, and Johnson and Johnson.
[00:21:47]  They do not want you all of a sudden to be asking critical questions of, well, maybe there's homeopathic ways to solve these things.
[00:21:53]  Maybe are every one of these single vaccines necessary for every single kid?
[00:21:58]  You can't ask that.
[00:21:58]  They're going to call you these terrible things.
[00:22:00]  And by the way, I don't even have that strong of opinions on that stuff.
[00:22:03]  Here's what I do think is interesting.
[00:22:05]  I can't ask questions about it without every major newspaper trying to call me anti-vax.
[00:22:10]  I'm like, again, I'm anti-mRNA gene altering shot, 100%.
[00:22:14]  But like, on the other thing, I can't even ask questions.

=== Disempowering the Tyrant (03:59) ===

[00:22:17]  And I know there must be some truth there, right?
[00:22:18]  It's kind of interesting how you have to smear and slander me.
[00:22:21]  And look at how they're treating RFK Jr., right, for running at the presidency.
[00:22:25]  It really makes you think.
[00:22:26]  It's like, hey, if your victory was necessary, why do you have to smear and slander us so much?
[00:22:31]  I mean, it was inevitable.
[00:22:32]  Why do you have to smear and slander us so much?
[00:22:34]  But it's an attitude shift.
[00:22:35]  It's an attitude shift that the game has restarted.
[00:22:40]  And I think President Trump deserves a lot of credit for starting this line of thinking, a lot of credit.
[00:22:45]  The game has restarted where we are now going to start from zero and build up with the language, with the decisions, with the behavior that we know to be true, as if the left did not exist at all.
[00:23:00]  Does that make sense?
[00:23:01]  Because so much of what we do is under the paradigm of the rules of the road that we've inherited from a Marxist, postmodern globalist regime over a couple decades.
[00:23:14]  And so when you kind of build back from square zero using the scriptures, using the classics, using our reason, using the natural law, all of a sudden like, oh, okay, now I know how I can talk about these issues.
[00:23:26]  Because how often I hear is, well, Charlie, this wouldn't have been controversial 20 years ago or 10 years ago or five years ago.
[00:23:34]  Or, I mean, the fact that 90% of American colleges are teaching men can give birth, right?
[00:23:40]  This is not going to improve.
[00:23:42]  It's not.
[00:23:44]  Right?
[00:23:44]  At that point, you have to say, okay, are we Nineveh or Sodom?
[00:23:47]  And it's like, I don't.
[00:23:49]  And for those of you that don't get the reference, you have some homework to do, okay?
[00:23:54]  And for those of you that get the reference, they're like, wow, that's pretty cruel.
[00:23:57]  So, okay, Jonah, it's called to make people repent in Nineveh.
[00:24:02]  And the crazy thing is they actually did.
[00:24:04]  It's like the one story you tell people to repent, they actually do it.
[00:24:06]  Sodom had its own problems.
[00:24:08]  So let's just put it that way.
[00:24:10]  Those are probably better known.
[00:24:13]  Which one is it?
[00:24:14]  And I will close with this, and then we'll do some questions because I know we have a lot of believers in the audience here.
[00:24:20]  And I know that Bill Federer, my great friend, is speaking at Calvary Chapel tomorrow, which I think is a sister church of Jack Hibbs, right?
[00:24:28]  Who I think the world of Jack Hibbs, he's amazing.
[00:24:30]  And look, I believe Jesus is coming and he's coming back and he's going to return to his throne.
[00:24:37]  I know a lot of you believe in a very clear pre-tribulation eschatology.
[00:24:41]  Some of you don't believe in it.
[00:24:42]  But let me just please, I'm pleading with you because I see this happening and it's troubling me.
[00:24:47]  And Jack agrees with me 2,000%.
[00:24:50]  Is do not allow your eschatology to be an excuse to not fight.
[00:24:55]  I receive hundreds of messages.
[00:24:59]  I receive hundreds of messages of people that say, Charlie, what's the point?
[00:25:03]  Our only salvation is Jesus coming back.
[00:25:06]  And I say, boy, that is not what the scriptures tell you.
[00:25:08]  First of all, the hour and the day is unknown.
[00:25:10]  Occupy until he comes.
[00:25:12]  What do you want to be caught doing when Christ returns?
[00:25:15]  Yes, you should have hope.
[00:25:17]  At the same time, you also should have faith that what you do matters and that you need to push back against darkness as an act of obedience and duty to the divine.
[00:25:27]  Not just that, hey, you know, can you zap us up?
[00:25:30]  Because things are getting really tough.
[00:25:32]  Blessed are we that we're persecuted.
[00:25:34]  Blessed are we that things are actually so consequential.
[00:25:38]  Because if you are so sure of Christ's return next Thursday, then do not eat anything till next Thursday because you better fast and pray if you know what's happening.
[00:25:47]  The point is, yes, the signs are pointing towards things that, you know, that the end of history, as you will, will be there.
[00:25:55]  However, out of an act of faith and duty, we're not going to allow that to be like, hey, house is on fire.
[00:26:01]  Let's get the kids out.
[00:26:02]  Let's just run to the hills and wait for the rapture, right?
[00:26:05]  It's not just like, hey, the house is on fire.
[00:26:07]  Let's put the fire out, right?
[00:26:09]  And then let's go hold the people accountable that were the arsons that lit the house on fire, right?

=== Lawfare Strategy for Three States (14:52) ===

[00:26:16]  That's the better way to address it.
[00:26:20]  So, all right, let's do some questions.
[00:26:23]  And I really enjoy being here.
[00:26:25]  So, and I'm happy to go a little bit over time if you want or whatever.
[00:26:29]  So, if you guys want, if there's other programming, I don't want to get in the way.
[00:26:33]  So, Charlie, thank you for coming back to Idaho.
[00:26:38]  Thank you.
[00:26:38]  Has the Durham report changed anything?
[00:26:46]  Sorry, you caught me.
[00:26:47]  That was, I have to compliment you.
[00:26:49]  That was the best question ever.
[00:26:50]  It was like eight words.
[00:26:51]  Usually, when people ask questions, they're talking about how they're running for dog catcher and how they're, you know, all this stuff.
[00:26:57]  So, everyone, take notes.
[00:26:59]  That was one of the most impressive things I've ever seen.
[00:27:01]  You see, I was getting ready to drink water and, you know, look around the room.
[00:27:07]  And it's just, I'm so blown away.
[00:27:09]  It was really impressive.
[00:27:10]  So, no, the Durham report has not changed anything.
[00:27:14]  Look, the political hope of the country is not going to come from Washington, D.C. James Comey, Hillary Clinton, Andrew McKay, Bruce and Elior, these people should all be locked up in prison a long time ago, but it's not going to happen.
[00:27:28]  Okay?
[00:27:28]  This is a crime syndicate.
[00:27:30]  They cover for one another.
[00:27:31]  They hate Donald Trump so much that they spied on his campaign.
[00:27:34]  They illegally lied about it.
[00:27:35]  They covered it up.
[00:27:36]  Peter Struckstroke Smirk and Lisa Page, the two lovers that had those text messages to use and abuse the power.
[00:27:42]  And I really, I believe this.
[00:27:44]  I said this on our radio program and I got attacked by the media very ferociously because I said what they did is far more evil than most burglaries or assaults or every.
[00:27:57]  I didn't say it's worse than murder, and let me tell you why, because actually abusing governmental authority, I think, is one of the highest thresholds of evil a human being can do, because the government has ultimate power to do things that even the mob can't do, that just a local run-of-the-mill criminal can't do is you have access to secret courts, to surveillance.
[00:28:18]  I mean that right, there is the collectivization of treacherous and evil behavior, and so I think there needs to be an equal and opposite punishment for that.
[00:28:27]  It's not going to happen.
[00:28:29]  The crooks got away with it.
[00:28:30]  Yeah, the Durham report is everything that we quote unquote conspiracy theorists were saying.
[00:28:35]  Four years ago, I lost my Twitter account social media for a while because of saying the things that are now described in the Durham report, and so the more important thing that I really want to emphasize, though that we talked about uh, on my podcast is they're going to do it again.
[00:28:55]  Yes they're, they're already doing it right now.
[00:28:58]  They did it in 20.
[00:29:00]  By the way, the 2020 election was a drive-by shooting of the United States Constitution Zuckerboxes.
[00:29:05]  You have the tabletop exercises at the Aspen Institute, FBI with Yoel Roth standing meetings, going to Mark Zuckerberg and threatening that if they do not then go after Russian disinformation, then they're going to have special uh.
[00:29:20]  They're going to have special uh punishment from the government.
[00:29:23]  This was all a setup, the Hunter Biden laptop, the cover-up, the 50 intel agencies with Tony Blinken that's all bad.
[00:29:29]  That's all bad.
[00:29:30]  I'm afraid though, that far too often, we look into the past and then we look into the future.
[00:29:37]  Who's going to be the nominee, who's going to win?
[00:29:39]  Wow, that was really bad.
[00:29:40]  And I say, aren't we looking into the present?
[00:29:42]  Because they're actively doing it right now, and so my advice to Jim Jordan is, hey, I care about that.
[00:29:49]  I actually care more about active investigations into what is currently being done, and this is why this is again.
[00:29:55]  That fourth branch of government is so unbelievably evil, in my opinion untouched unelected, unconstitutionally chartered is.
[00:30:01]  They always say, well no, we can't give you information on active things, like hell, you can't, you're commissioned by the Congress.
[00:30:09]  Okay, and again, you want to see how uh corrupt Washington Dc is?
[00:30:14]  So they're going to hold Christopher Ray in contempt of Congress.
[00:30:17]  So where does that criminal referral go?
[00:30:19]  Goes to Christopher Ray.
[00:30:20]  So you're trying to tell me he's going to indict himself.
[00:30:23]  I mean, what a crock right we?
[00:30:26]  We need a special Church AND PIKE Committee 2.0.
[00:30:30]  And again, this is where the right has to get out of its cage.
[00:30:33]  Okay, do you guys have a Republican attorney general here in Idaho?
[00:30:38]  Okay good good good, have have has.
[00:30:42]  Have they and have they in.
[00:30:43]  Are they good, good has has have.
[00:30:47]  Have they indicted the leaders of BLM for charitable fraud?
[00:30:50]  Why okay no, but that that that should be one week.
[00:30:56]  No, think about it.
[00:30:58]  They indict Steve Bannon and Steve Colfedge for the charitable stuff.
[00:31:03]  Why don't we go after the holy Sancho Sanct thing that took hundreds of millions of dollars from corporations?
[00:31:07]  You might say, well, Idaho has no jurisdiction.
[00:31:10]  Of course it does.
[00:31:10]  There was a donor from Idaho that was defrauded.
[00:31:12]  They had donors from all 50 states.
[00:31:14]  Purplewalked Patrice Colors.
[00:31:15]  They stole $80 million that was supposed to be for BLM.
[00:31:19]  This is how we have to start to think.
[00:31:21]  We want, by the way, why isn't there not an act of criminal investigation into Peter Strzok for violating the Idaho Constitution?
[00:31:28]  Why can't states start, and then this is aggressive stuff?
[00:31:31]  Now, I love Raoul.
[00:31:32]  He's great.
[00:31:33]  I know he's only been there for a little bit, but we have to hold people to the highest possible threshold, right?
[00:31:37]  Because we have to start looking at our own AGs, how the national AG should operate.
[00:31:42]  There is no reason why Hillary Clinton cannot be indicted under Idaho law.
[00:31:45]  Figure it out.
[00:31:46]  No, I'm serious.
[00:31:50]  She ran an international crime syndicate organization.
[00:31:53]  If our own federal government won't do it, the states have to start doing it.
[00:31:57]  The states created the federal government, the federal government, to not create the states.
[00:32:00]  We have been betrayed by our own government.
[00:32:02]  Here's the thing: they laugh at us.
[00:32:04]  The left thinks they're untouchable.
[00:32:06]  They won't be laughing all of a sudden when their holy charities start to get indicted.
[00:32:10]  They will not be laughing when all of a sudden Mark Zuckerberg has to all of a sudden be criminally indicted for manipulating the 2020 election.
[00:32:16]  Were there Zuckerboxes here in Idaho?
[00:32:19]  Oh, interesting.
[00:32:20]  Has he been indicted yet?
[00:32:23]  Next question.
[00:32:26]  Hello, Charlie.
[00:32:28]  Thanks for coming to Idaho.
[00:32:29]  My name is Austin Rose, and I'm the president of the Turning Point USA chapter at Eagle High School.
[00:32:33]  Amazing.
[00:32:34]  Thank you, man.
[00:32:40]  Thank you.
[00:32:42]  With the huge amount of election fraud in 2020 and the increasing amount of ballot harvesting, what do you think Republicans can do to secure a victory in 2024?
[00:32:50]  Yeah, that's a great question.
[00:32:51]  Thank you.
[00:32:51]  So stop giving money to the RNC.
[00:32:53]  We're all in agreement of that.
[00:32:54]  No more money to the RNC.
[00:32:55]  Good.
[00:32:56]  Okay.
[00:32:57]  So here's the number.
[00:32:58]  So let me just prove to you why.
[00:33:00]  If anyone is an RNC defender here, please, I would love to meet you.
[00:33:03]  But here's the, why does the RNC have an office in Washington, D.C.?
[00:33:08]  The RNC is not a lobbying organization.
[00:33:10]  So why, how many voters are they going to win over in Washington, D.C.?
[00:33:14]  Zero, none.
[00:33:15]  Close it down, sell the building.
[00:33:16]  Oh, well, because they're a D.C.-focused organization.
[00:33:18]  Meanwhile, the Democrats and the Soros groups, in my home state of Arizona, they're spending $250 million to do all this stuff, and they're barely eking out, I think, treacherous victories against the amazing patriots like Kerry Lake and so many others, who should be governor of Arizona, by the way.
[00:33:34]  So let me walk through it.
[00:33:35]  Okay.
[00:33:36]  So the RNC has to be downsized.
[00:33:38]  Our money has to go to support groups like We the Patriots or Turning Point Action or whatever, right?
[00:33:42]  Local, local, local, grassroots, gritty, scrappy, real organizations, not this type of nonsensical DC overhead that's been so frustrating to witness and look at.
[00:33:52]  Okay, so a couple things.
[00:33:53]  There has to be a lawfare strategy.
[00:33:55]  I know Jenna Ellis has been working on a lot of this stuff.
[00:33:57]  This is not my point, so I'll let her answer it later, of what we could do for lawsuits and all this state.
[00:34:02]  That's not my thing.
[00:34:03]  All I know is Mark Elias is just making total, a joke of us, honestly, with what he's doing with lawfare.
[00:34:10]  Here is my thing, though, and it is something that we have to start to embrace, and we have to start to realize and recognize that there is a rather unfortunate pill to swallow, a less than desirable set of circumstances, but we have to get into that arena if we actually want to win.
[00:34:25]  So, okay, in the 2024 election, the electoral map has changed a little bit.
[00:34:30]  Okay, it has changed a little bit.
[00:34:32]  The Sunbelt has increased in population.
[00:34:35]  Blue states have decreased in population.
[00:34:37]  Therefore, it's actually easier for a Republican to win the White House in 24 than in 2020.
[00:34:42]  By the way, the RNC should be talking about this, but obviously they're not.
[00:34:45]  Okay.
[00:34:45]  If Donald Trump's the nominee or if DeSantis is the nominee or whoever, they will win Iowa, Ohio, North Carolina, and Florida, okay?
[00:34:52]  Those are solidly red states in presidential years.
[00:34:55]  So then it gets down.
[00:34:56]  Guess what?
[00:34:56]  And you take all the other red states like this one in South North Dakota and Kentucky and Alabama, Mississippi, et cetera.
[00:35:02]  You just have to win three more states: Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia.
[00:35:06]  That gets you right to 270 electoral votes.
[00:35:08]  The entire presidential election will be decided in three states and really eight counties.
[00:35:13]  It'll be decided in Maricopa County, in Pima County, in Pinal, in Yavapai, in Fulton, in Cobb, in Gwinnett, in Kenosha, and Eau Claire.
[00:35:21]  It's that simple.
[00:35:23]  If your people in charge are not constantly saying this daily, for those of you that listen to the Charlie Kirk show, you're probably sick of hearing this by now.
[00:35:30]  I literally say this like an incantation every day.
[00:35:32]  Because I've said, look, I'm a Trump guy, and that's fine.
[00:35:35]  I actually care more about whether or not we're investing in early state infrastructure, early in voter registration, law fair, signature verification, and yes, ballot chasing and getting our low-propensity voters to vote within a 30-day window.
[00:35:50]  Now, this is where I get a little bit of pushback from people, but I think I can win you over, okay?
[00:35:54]  What I saw with Kerry Lake change my opinion.
[00:35:56]  I'm a game day voter.
[00:35:58]  I'm going to keep on voting on election day.
[00:35:59]  That's how I'm wired.
[00:36:00]  It's how I was raised.
[00:36:01]  I'm not going to change my behavior.
[00:36:02]  However, when I went to go vote on game day in Scottsdale, Arizona for the Great Kerry Lake, there was a two and a half hour waiting line because those machines literally melted down and a five-hour thing where no one could cast ballots and thousands of great patriots were not able to vote at all.
[00:36:17]  That is an intentional sabotage because we broadcasted our play and said, Hey, all you have to do is, hey, it'd be a shame if that 12-hour voting period got harder for us to vote.
[00:36:27]  Okay.
[00:36:28]  So we can either repeat the same mistake again or we can change up our strategy a little bit to say, is there a way to get some of our voters that can't wait two and a half hours in a 90-degree heat in Phoenix, right, to be able to vote early in person, still somewhat secure?
[00:36:44]  Again, it's all there's a whole lawfare side that needs to happen to this, but it's better than not voting at all, right?
[00:36:50]  Is there a way to do this?
[00:36:52]  And so I think that we have to embrace a ballot chasing, in-person, early, low-propensity voting machine strategy.
[00:37:00]  We're trying to do this at turning point action.
[00:37:01]  Again, the RNC should be doing this, but they won't because they don't know how and they're not interested.
[00:37:05]  But this is the type of grassroots work that really needs to happen in eight or nine counties, okay?
[00:37:10]  Forget Pennsylvania.
[00:37:11]  I think it's a waste of time.
[00:37:12]  People get mad when I say that.
[00:37:14]  If they can elect John Fetterman as a U.S. Senator, I'm done.
[00:37:17]  I'm not kidding.
[00:37:18]  I have put that state to rest.
[00:37:19]  I don't think it's going to.
[00:37:20]  I think we have to go all in on three states.
[00:37:22]  Again, what I say in private is what I say in public.
[00:37:24]  I was talking to the president the other day.
[00:37:26]  He said, Who do you think I should have for vice president?
[00:37:28]  I think you should have Senator Ron Johnson for two reasons.
[00:37:31]  Number one, he had courage on the vaccine issue when other people faltered and ran to the hills.
[00:37:36]  Number two, number two, I grew up in northern Illinois, like 20 minutes from the border.
[00:37:41]  Wisconsin's a very tribal state.
[00:37:42]  Anyone from Wisconsin, they will elect one of their own, right?
[00:37:45]  If you have a Wisconsinite as VP, they will go that way.
[00:37:48]  I think you could almost ensure that you would win Wisconsin, which then really makes it a two-state presidential race, Georgia and Arizona.
[00:37:54]  Arizona, I could tell you how to win.
[00:37:56]  Georgia is a crooked state.
[00:37:57]  I don't know.
[00:37:58]  That one is going to take a lot of prayer, a lot of work, and a lot of grit because that place is, I think, one of the most corrupt places on planet Earth when it comes to elections.
[00:38:06]  Arizona is bad, but it's actually, I think, more manageable.
[00:38:09]  That's it.
[00:38:10]  That's the whole election.
[00:38:11]  So you might say, Charlie, what about the Senate, the House?
[00:38:13]  Honestly, I think all eyes have to be on winning back the White House.
[00:38:17]  Day one of the White House, you could close the border.
[00:38:19]  You could hold China accountable.
[00:38:20]  There's so much you could do, right?
[00:38:21]  We're in an era now where there's more power than ever in an executive.
[00:38:25]  I don't love that.
[00:38:26]  You don't love that.
[00:38:26]  It's the way it is.
[00:38:27]  We have to have someone get in, break up the FBI, break up the Department of Justice, hold these fourth branch of government account, do real things, right?
[00:38:35]  So, and so my number one macro focus is: okay, the primary is going to be nasty and bitter and awful and personal and cruel.
[00:38:43]  I already don't like looking at it.
[00:38:45]  It's just not really enjoyable for me.
[00:38:47]  It's just not.
[00:38:47]  But what, so therefore, all my time and attention instead is like, okay, why don't we then go to the place where we should be focusing on?
[00:38:54]  And again, I'm incredibly frustrated when I see these people that are totally, in my personal opinion, what's the best way to word it?
[00:39:04]  I'm usually not really politically correct.
[00:39:06]  Other losers running for the U.S. presidency.
[00:39:09]  And I mean, you got Chris Christie running for the presidency, and you got, I mean, one after the other.
[00:39:13]  And I think, honestly, I mean, you could have a conspiracy side of it, or you could just have the truth of it.
[00:39:17]  It could be an ego, or it could be just make this so expensive, make it so bloody, make it so difficult for Trump to enter cleanly where he has to fight on so many different, and he might still get through it, that then there's zero investment in Wisconsin, Georgia, and Arizona.
[00:39:33]  So, look, here's the good news: these crooks, what they've done in Arizona and Georgia and Wisconsin, they've lied and steated.
[00:39:40]  We're still falling like 9,000 votes short.
[00:39:43]  We're falling like 11,000 votes short.
[00:39:45]  We're falling like 7,000 votes short.
[00:39:47]  So we're right within the margins where it's, if we do any of this a little bit better, you know, I think we can overcome it.
[00:39:55]  And then some of you, the cynical, will be a Charlie, they'll cheat no matter what.
[00:39:58]  Please knock that attitude off, okay?
[00:40:00]  If that was possible, he never would have won in 2016.
[00:40:03]  Okay.
[00:40:03]  I agree with you.
[00:40:04]  They are going to cheat no matter what, but there's a breaking point to evil.
[00:40:08]  I really believe that.
[00:40:09]  And if there's enough faithful action by truth seekers, you could break through that darkness.
[00:40:14]  I really believe that.
[00:40:15]  Okay, one or two more.
[00:40:16]  You want me?
[00:40:16]  Okay.
[00:40:21]  Yes, Daniel Murphy here.
[00:40:24]  Our medical facilities are overflowing with illegal aliens, the Medicaid that we have now in expansion in Idaho, plus people who have jobs and they get medical insurance.
[00:40:38]  I asked this question of you about two years ago when you came to Idaho, and I just wanted to see if you changed your mind.
[00:40:44]  Are you still for forcing us veterans out of our veterans' hospitals into the medical industry that's not the veterans' hospital?
[00:40:59]  Because here in Boise, we have a great VA.
[00:41:02]  And my second question is: have you visited the VA?
[00:41:05]  And are you up on that?

=== Real America's Voice Platform (05:32) ===

[00:41:08]  That's a real tricky way to word what I said, forcing veterans out.
[00:41:13]  No, what I said is that you're definitely the outlier.
[00:41:16]  Most veterans hate the VA.
[00:41:18]  In fact, they find it to be awful and terrible.
[00:41:20]  So I'll let you guys debate it amongst yourselves.
[00:41:22]  Yes, I have visited a VA and it was an insult.
[00:41:25]  So to be clear about my position, it was actually pro-veteran, as I said, they should all get a Medicare for all card to be able to go to any hospital they want at any time to get world-class service.
[00:41:34]  That's my opinion, right?
[00:41:36]  And so, but if you have a great VA, let's just talk realistic.
[00:41:40]  None of this is going to change anytime soon, right?
[00:41:42]  But my intent, which doesn't always matter in life, it can, was actually a pro-veteran intent, which is that when veterans are calling the VA hotline like happened under Obama, the suicide hotline that wasn't checked for six months, right?
[00:41:56]  And I thought my motivation was to give them a Medicare card so they could shop around so that our veterans are treated the best.
[00:42:03]  That was always my driving motivation.
[00:42:05]  But if you guys have a wonderful VA hospital here in Idaho, I have learned something new.
[00:42:14]  If you care, go ahead.
[00:42:16]  I like you mentioned zucker boxes.
[00:42:19]  I like your new word.
[00:42:21]  I think we should invent more of those new words who died and put them in charge of language, like calling them oppressives.
[00:42:27]  They like to be called progressives, but they're not.
[00:42:30]  Everything they do is oppressive.
[00:42:32]  We have to reclaim the language, right?
[00:42:35]  And so these people are tyrants and totalitarians and Marxists.
[00:42:39]  And I like the term Marxist.
[00:42:41]  It's a good catch-all term.
[00:42:43]  But they're also just thugs.
[00:42:46]  These people are thugs.
[00:42:47]  And you do not beat thugs just by playing nice and having happy talk.
[00:42:52]  Okay.
[00:42:54]  Charlie, they've got a plan and they're executing it beautifully.
[00:42:58]  I mean, never before in this country have we had government, corporations, entertainment, medicine, education, all working so cohesively together.
[00:43:10]  And it's working.
[00:43:11]  I mean, you have to admit, it is.
[00:43:13]  And it feels so oppressive to go up against.
[00:43:16]  You don't have to worry about me fighting.
[00:43:17]  I will fight.
[00:43:19]  I only have 500 Facebook. fans.
[00:43:22]  I don't know how much I can do, but I do it and they all know I do and they all message me secretly because they're afraid to like my posts and I'm very careful about what I do.
[00:43:30]  But it's hard for us to have a plan because they took the media away from us.
[00:43:35]  And especially my generation, we still believe, I don't, I worked in broadcasting for 22 years.
[00:43:42]  I was there when Clinton deregulated.
[00:43:44]  But a certain generation still believes you can turn on the news and get the truth.
[00:43:50]  And when Trump first started saying mainstream, I mean, fake news, I even thought, oh, boy, fake news.
[00:43:58]  But it is fake news.
[00:44:00]  And I think a lot of us know that now.
[00:44:02]  Yeah, what's the question?
[00:44:03]  I'm so sorry.
[00:44:03]  My question is, how do we get a plan out that we can all feel cohesive?
[00:44:07]  I mean, we can all follow you.
[00:44:09]  We can follow, you know, a lot of different conservatives, but how do we get a nationwide cohesive plan?
[00:44:15]  Great question.
[00:44:16]  Okay, that's not going to happen anytime soon.
[00:44:18]  I'll tell you why.
[00:44:19]  Two reasons.
[00:44:20]  Temperamentally, it's really hard to get all of us to work together.
[00:44:23]  We are not hive-minded.
[00:44:24]  We're not collectivists.
[00:44:25]  We're not the left, by definition, looks at themselves as part of a the Star Trek episode of The Borg is honestly the best.
[00:44:34]  And I know that might not resonate with some of you, but it's a collective body.
[00:44:38]  They take over things.
[00:44:39]  There's no individual thought.
[00:44:41]  Now, as far as a centralized plan, there is a place for part of it.
[00:44:45]  This is one of my frustrations, is we do not have an opposition party in this country.
[00:44:50]  We don't.
[00:44:51]  Our opposition party has merged with the Uniparty for the exact, they don't care there are borders open.
[00:44:56]  They make a bigger deal that Zelensky is not getting his $5 billion wire transfer every other week, which by the way, I couldn't care less about what happens in Ukraine while our own border remains completely and totally wide open.
[00:45:11]  And please, at the next time your U.S. senators have a town hall in the state, you need to show up.
[00:45:17]  They are voting for this stuff, okay?
[00:45:20]  In fact, one of them is one of the active spokespeople for further involvement.
[00:45:25]  So you're like, okay, what do I do?
[00:45:27]  Show up at that town hall and start screaming and being like, why are we sending one red penny to Ukraine while the U.S. southern border is open?
[00:45:36]  They have town halls.
[00:45:37]  I don't, so please do that.
[00:45:39]  So here's the thing.
[00:45:40]  I see some positive.
[00:45:41]  Number one, information consumption habits are changing.
[00:45:44]  I'm sure a lot of you have changed how you get your information.
[00:45:47]  Please do more podcasting, more rumble, right?
[00:45:50]  Steve Bannon is a great option.
[00:45:52]  Matt Walsh is a great option.
[00:45:53]  Maybe we can earn a place for that.
[00:45:55]  There's some amazing podcasters out there that are going after the truth and telling the truth.
[00:46:00]  That's just outside of the easy to watch mainstream media.
[00:46:02]  If you don't know about Real America's Voice, please, it's a really good network, everybody.
[00:46:07]  And it's an all-star network.
[00:46:08]  You got John Solomon.
[00:46:09]  You got Ed Henry, right?
[00:46:11]  You got Bannon, myself, Jack Pasobic.
[00:46:13]  It's pretty good.
[00:46:14]  And it is after the truth all the time.
[00:46:16]  It's called Real America's Voice.
[00:46:18]  But finally, as far as the plan, the American right right now is in the time being, and I'm just going to warn all of you because I could see it happening already on Twitter, which is not real life, but you could see it.
[00:46:30]  We're about to go through an incredibly fractured, divisive, unnecessarily brutal primary that's going to make any sort of plan.

=== Building After a Brutal Primary (06:38) ===

[00:46:41]  So that's why I am clear about who I'm supporting, but I'm trying to build things and building things is hard.
[00:46:48]  And so that's where my platform and what I'm trying to do, because there will be a day after the primary.
[00:46:53]  That day will exist.
[00:46:54]  And it's going to look like Nagasaki in the Republican Party, like an atom bomb went off.
[00:47:00]  And we're like, well, we got 90 days where we have to go against Joe Biden.
[00:47:04]  But at least, you know, Trump got 53% of the delegates instead of 61% of the delegates.
[00:47:09]  It's going to be a $1 billion primary, everybody.
[00:47:12]  And the better question is, why are Republican donors going to put hundreds of millions of dollars for a personality contest when we desperately need that money in Georgia, Wisconsin, and Arizona?
[00:47:23]  That's a more important question.
[00:47:24]  Okay.
[00:47:25]  So one more question.
[00:47:27]  Sorry, don't be disappointed because we still have a few remaining tickets, not many, but a few remaining tickets for the dinner tonight.
[00:47:35]  So hang on after he leaves.
[00:47:37]  Don't all rush out of here.
[00:47:38]  Taryn's going to tell you how you can get those last few tickets if you want to see him at the VIP fundraiser dinner tonight.
[00:47:44]  One last question.
[00:47:47]  Hi, Charlie.
[00:47:47]  This is Eric from Our Liberty Voice.
[00:47:50]  My question for you is, how do we encourage our friends to break out of their comfort zone and speak and act against the spirit of the age?
[00:48:00]  Boy, that's hard.
[00:48:01]  The zeitgeist, the spirit of the age.
[00:48:03]  Yeah.
[00:48:03]  So look, courage begets courage, and you have to act in a certain way, and people will start to follow that action.
[00:48:09]  It's a great question to end on, actually.
[00:48:11]  So I know some of you were probably, you know, this is a little bit to the earlier question, which is great, but it wasn't said this plainly.
[00:48:19]  But I get asked a lot, Charlie, are we going to win or are we going to lose?
[00:48:23]  Are you optimistic or are you pessimistic?
[00:48:26]  Now, if I told you I was optimistic, you would go home and say, I don't have to do anything because Charlie's optimistic that we are going to win.
[00:48:33]  If I told you I was pessimistic, you would go home and say, I don't have to do anything because the whole place is falling apart.
[00:48:38]  And then you'd get really big into the rapture stuff, right?
[00:48:42]  And instead, I'm going to tell you, I always tell you the truth.
[00:48:46]  That is my commitment to you, the audience.
[00:48:48]  I always tell you the truth.
[00:48:50]  I have no idea how this thing's going to end up.
[00:48:53]  It's conceivable this country is done in 10 years.
[00:48:56]  There is no guarantee we win.
[00:49:00]  Any person that comes up and tells you is dealing hopium and should not be on a stage.
[00:49:06]  Okay?
[00:49:07]  We're going to win in the end.
[00:49:08]  Okay.
[00:49:09]  And the ultimate end, Jesus is coming back.
[00:49:11]  The country, I have no idea.
[00:49:13]  At the same time, anyone who tells you that it's for sure over is equally deceiving you.
[00:49:20]  That's actually this like really weird middle ground we're in right now.
[00:49:24]  I see some positives.
[00:49:25]  Parents are rising up.
[00:49:26]  Homeschooling is increasing.
[00:49:27]  You guys are showing up to events.
[00:49:28]  We're seeing an increased enlightenment happening in the country, a elevated frequency happening.
[00:49:34]  At the same time, we see the degenerate stuff.
[00:49:36]  We see they're going after kids.
[00:49:37]  We see the corporations.
[00:49:38]  We have leaders that hate us.
[00:49:40]  They control everything in D.C.
[00:49:41]  So how do you put that all together?
[00:49:43]  And the answer is we don't know.
[00:49:45]  So the more important question is than what do I do, right?
[00:49:50]  Talked about an attitude shift.
[00:49:52]  Well, some of you are probably here, and I could tell by some of the body language, like Charlie, I already have done everything that's been asked of me.
[00:49:59]  Okay.
[00:50:00]  I used to watch Tucker Carlson's show.
[00:50:04]  I bought the pillow.
[00:50:06]  I have.
[00:50:09]  By the way, promo code Kirk at mypillow.com, just so we're clear.
[00:50:15]  I've done everything that has been asked of me.
[00:50:20]  And I kind of chuckle and I say, well, no, you haven't.
[00:50:23]  I have not done everything that's been asked of me.
[00:50:25]  Okay.
[00:50:26]  It's been an amazing 11.
[00:50:27]  I've been doing this for 11 years.
[00:50:28]  Turning Point USA is now on thousands of high school and college campuses.
[00:50:33]  I believe we've really done an amazing job.
[00:50:34]  In fact, New York Times article comes out two days ago.
[00:50:37]  Millennials are 35 points more conservative than they were 10 years ago.
[00:50:42]  Okay?
[00:50:43]  35 points.
[00:50:44]  It's almost 50-50.
[00:50:47]  And again, I'm not, I mean, Ben Shapiro deserves credit.
[00:50:50]  Matt Walsh deserves credit, but Turning Point also deserves credit, okay?
[00:50:54]  Turning point deserves credit.
[00:50:55]  And it's a group effort, okay?
[00:50:57]  So then what is it to do?
[00:50:59]  Is that we must view our action.
[00:51:02]  This is the one, the biggest takeaway: action as an obligation, not as I'm going to engage in the betting odds.
[00:51:12]  Somebody says, Well, Charlie, I don't know if I'm going to act as much, you know, if I don't think we're going to win.
[00:51:18]  That's actually not relevant.
[00:51:20]  What's relevant is why do you do it?
[00:51:23]  You do it because it's the right thing to do, you do it because the Lord commands you to do it.
[00:51:30]  Jeremiah 29:7, demand the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.
[00:51:37]  And I could guarantee you they win if we surrender and we give up and we do not do our job and we do not lean in.
[00:51:44]  And so, how do we get other people to wake up, kind of close it all together?
[00:51:48]  Is that you have to look for moments of courageous action?
[00:51:52]  You have to get in the arena and not be a spectator, which I know so many of you people are doing.
[00:51:58]  And then you have to be honest with yourself: Am I giving all I can?
[00:52:01]  Am I learning something new every day?
[00:52:03]  Am I being the best family leader that I possibly can?
[00:52:07]  Am I getting my church to speak out on these issues?
[00:52:10]  Am I educating my kids on these issues and my local school board on these issues?
[00:52:15]  And you might say, Well, Charlie, my little impact will not make a difference.
[00:52:19]  Again, it doesn't matter.
[00:52:20]  You're doing this as a direct act of worship.
[00:52:22]  But if I said that when I was 18 years old, 11 years ago, or 11 year birthdays on Monday, then Turning Point USA would not exist.
[00:52:31]  You're right.
[00:52:31]  When I first started Turning Point, one 18-year-old kid in the suburbs of Chicago, not going to college, trying to get kids to love, did not make a difference until it did make a difference.
[00:52:42]  And that's, you have no idea how the Lord will use your action.
[00:52:47]  If you do, then you are playing God, and none of us are called to do that.
[00:52:51]  And so, are our best days ahead or are our worst days ahead?
[00:52:55]  It's actually wholly dependent on what we do.
[00:52:59]  And together, we'll find out.
[00:53:01]  God bless you guys.
[00:53:01]  Thanks so much.
[00:53:06]  Thanks so much for listening.
[00:53:07]  Everybody, email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:53:11]  Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
[00:53:15]  For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk. com.