The Charlie Kirk Show - My Appearance at the Texas Leadership Summit
Aired: 2023-06-12
Duration: 37:50


=== Becoming a Better Citizen (12:03) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey, everybody.
[00:00:00]  Today in the Charlie Kirk Show, super important episode.
[00:00:03]  Stop what you're doing and listen to every word of this.
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[00:00:20]  Buckle up, everybody.
[00:00:22]  Here we go.
[00:00:23]  Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
[00:00:25]  Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
[00:00:27]  I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
[00:00:30]  Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
[00:00:34]  I want to thank Charlie.
[00:00:35]  He's an incredible guy.
[00:00:36]  His spirit, his love of this country.
[00:00:37]  He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
[00:00:44]  We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
[00:00:53]  That's why we are here.
[00:00:56]  All right.
[00:00:56]  Well, thank you.
[00:00:57]  Good to see you guys.
[00:00:58]  So this is a first of its kind thing.
[00:01:01]  I want to thank our great field staff.
[00:01:03]  You know, we have this big picture.
[00:01:05]  We want Texas to be the biggest state for Turning Point USA in the country.
[00:01:11]  And all of you are going to play a really and are playing a very, very big role in that.
[00:01:15]  And I love this state, and this state's very important.
[00:01:19]  And it's really kind of a question of whether this state is going to go in a conservative direction or a not so conservative direction.
[00:01:27]  And I know a lot of you are experiencing this on the front lines in your high schools and your college campuses.
[00:01:33]  And so I know I'm not supposed to do this, but I want to do a lot of questions and hear from you.
[00:01:38]  You know, the team was like, oh, you can't do questions, you know, at the first speaker.
[00:01:43]  I'm like, I'll talk for a little bit and then we'll do some questions.
[00:01:45]  So how many high schoolers do we have?
[00:01:47]  Raise your hand.
[00:01:47]  It's amazing, isn't it?
[00:01:48]  And then college, raise your hand.
[00:01:50]  Okay, more college than high school.
[00:01:52]  We should all really be excited about that.
[00:01:55]  The future is very bright.
[00:01:57]  And then the young ladies, are you sticking around for the women's summit?
[00:02:00]  I hope.
[00:02:01]  Yeah, okay, good.
[00:02:02]  And for the men, no transitioning or any of that.
[00:02:05]  You're not allowed to go there.
[00:02:07]  So a couple of things I want to make sure I mention.
[00:02:10]  Look, the country is in a terrible spot, and that's not going to be my main message, but I don't have to spend too much time on it.
[00:02:16]  It's not the country I grew up in, and I'm 29 years old.
[00:02:19]  Okay, so 10 years ago, you would not have a gay pride flag the size of the state of Texas flag.
[00:02:25]  You say this ridiculous nonsense when you're driving in?
[00:02:28]  Is it like, is it the state of gay or is it the state of Texas?
[00:02:31]  I don't understand.
[00:02:31]  It's the craziest thing.
[00:02:32]  And by the way, you guys probably are like me, live and let, live on that stuff, whatever.
[00:02:37]  But are you kidding me?
[00:02:38]  Like that, that is a direct insult of like, what actually runs the state of Texas?
[00:02:42]  Drives me nuts.
[00:02:44]  And that wouldn't have happened 10 years ago.
[00:02:47]  And now you have this state of affairs where you're not even allowed to voice an opinion about that, where forget about having differences of opinion.
[00:02:55]  They call you the worst possible names, bigot.
[00:02:57]  You know, they try to cancel you and go after you.
[00:03:01]  But I want to just encourage you that right now in your high school or college chapters or what you are doing is more important than ever before.
[00:03:10]  I know it's going to be difficult.
[00:03:12]  You're going to receive a lot of adversity almost as a guarantee of it.
[00:03:16]  But you have a unique blessing in your life, which is you can, at a young age, you get to either become a tougher person or a weaker person.
[00:03:27]  Okay.
[00:03:28]  So if you were to have left-wing views, anyone go to UT Austin?
[00:03:32]  Anyone at UT?
[00:03:34]  UT Austin in particular?
[00:03:36]  Yeah.
[00:03:36]  So spoke there.
[00:03:37]  Were you there when I spoke last year?
[00:03:38]  Or yeah, I did the whole table thing.
[00:03:42]  To be a liberal at UT Austin is not hard.
[00:03:44]  All right.
[00:03:45]  Basically, everybody else is they would share their values and your beliefs.
[00:03:48]  To be a conservative is very difficult at UT Austin.
[00:03:52]  To hold those views, to hold those values, you become tougher and you have to learn how to defend those views.
[00:03:59]  Life is not easy.
[00:04:00]  Life is going to throw a lot of different things at you.
[00:04:04]  You're going to have to, you know, you're going to wake up one day and something's not going to go the right way.
[00:04:08]  You're going to have to pay bills and go to work.
[00:04:11]  And all of a sudden, you realize that, you know, the kind of cushy life that colleges try to present to you, it's not realistic at all.
[00:04:19]  And so, but the people that gain muscle for life are the ones that are going to succeed.
[00:04:25]  And that's what conservatives have a blessing when you guys stand for your beliefs and you guys have to endure adversity.
[00:04:34]  Because here's the issue: many people on the campus left, they want to change the world so that they don't personally have to become tougher.
[00:04:46]  They want to get rid of the things that trigger them.
[00:04:49]  They want to get rid of the curriculum that they might not like.
[00:04:56]  If I come on a college campus to speak, they do everything they possibly can to try to pick it or protest or try to prevent me from speaking.
[00:05:04]  Whereas your perspective is like, hey, you know, the odds are going to be stacked against me, but I'm going to get tougher and stronger because of it.
[00:05:15]  You're actually going to become a better citizen.
[00:05:17]  And you should have to look at things.
[00:05:19]  10 years from now, it's going to matter a lot more whether or not you stood for your values and your beliefs than how easy your college experience was.
[00:05:30]  I could tell you right now, the people that had college experiences where they had to fight for every inch and they were canceled and smeared and slandered and lost friends and doxed, it sucks when you're in the midst of it.
[00:05:43]  But four, five, six years later, these are the most successful people that there's nothing that could be thrown at them that will intimidate them.
[00:05:53]  And so you get a chance to lean into that, right?
[00:05:56]  I'm not going to give you the speech where it's like, hey, embrace conservative ideas and your life will become easier.
[00:06:02]  It won't, but it will become better.
[00:06:05]  That's a big difference.
[00:06:07]  Better is way, that is a deal that you should want to take over ease.
[00:06:13]  An easy life is not a deep life.
[00:06:15]  It's not.
[00:06:17]  It's very shallow.
[00:06:18]  If you want an easy life, you're at the wrong organization.
[00:06:21]  If you want a full life, you're at the right organization.
[00:06:26]  If you want a life where you talk about the biggest ideas and issues, where you're going to be persecuted and condemned for saying things that are obviously true, then you're in the right place.
[00:06:38]  And so what's exciting is that most of your counterparts are going to be constantly in a shallow life existence, talking about things that don't really matter, disparating talking points they heard on TikTok, where you get to dive deep into the principles, the ideas, the philosophy that does take more work.
[00:07:00]  But once you go on that journey, and no, you're never actually totally there, myself included, you're going to start to find more fulfillment.
[00:07:07]  You're going to start to understand what is good and what is true and what is beautiful, Not just what is easy and pleasurable.
[00:07:14]  And that's a life worth living.
[00:07:16]  You see, in modern education, which most of you are part of, unless you're homeschooled, and if you are, praise God.
[00:07:23]  You homeschooled?
[00:07:24]  Great.
[00:07:24]  Good.
[00:07:25]  So, in modern education, they believe that all ideas must be equally presented.
[00:07:34]  They don't even believe this anymore, actually, which is hilarious.
[00:07:37]  They believe that the left-wing idea is going to be equally presented.
[00:07:39]  We believe that, yeah, sure, you can present ideas, but that there are absolutes, that there is a better way to live, that there is a good, that there is a true, and that when it comes to government, when it comes to politics, when it comes to the formation of the individual, that we should try to explore that and not act as if everybody has their own truth and does whatever is right in their own eyes.
[00:08:04]  It's a very dangerous equation.
[00:08:06]  So, look, you have a big thing ahead of you.
[00:08:10]  And let me just kind of speak about this from a personal development standpoint, which is really not talked about enough.
[00:08:18]  You know, this right now, you guys are all Generation Z?
[00:08:21]  Any millennials?
[00:08:22]  Okay, good.
[00:08:23]  One millennial?
[00:08:24]  Yeah, we share a generation.
[00:08:27]  Most depressed, suicidal, alcohol-addicted, and drug-addicted generation in history is Generation Z. Lockdowns play a big role.
[00:08:36]  Staring at screens, not helpful.
[00:08:37]  How is it then a generation that has everything given to them is the generation that kills themselves the most?
[00:08:43]  That's something worth talking about.
[00:08:45]  Most colleges won't even talk about it.
[00:08:47]  Let me tell you one reason: it's because we've told an entire generation that there is no ultimate purpose for existence.
[00:08:54]  I believe that the most important question that you can answer, and you could all have your own answer to it.
[00:08:59]  I believe there is a correct answer, is: is there a God and are you that God?
[00:09:04]  I believe it's the most important question, right?
[00:09:07]  And if you do not know the answer to that question, that's fine.
[00:09:10]  I'm glad you're here, but you should wrestle with that question every single day.
[00:09:14]  That's a very important question.
[00:09:16]  Because if you end up believing that, then your whole life goes on a different trajectory.
[00:09:21]  That means your existence is not an accident.
[00:09:23]  That means there's a purpose to your life.
[00:09:25]  That means you're created with intentionality.
[00:09:27]  But if you're just a series of accidents and mistakes, well, then, yeah, you could get into an existential void really quickly.
[00:09:35]  And so, from a personal development standpoint, I want to just encourage you to go through the praxis, which is a Greek word, the practices of saying no to modernity at least once or twice a week.
[00:09:50]  There is this built-in, there's this built-in worship of all things modern.
[00:09:58]  And look, don't get me wrong, some things modern are great.
[00:10:00]  I love the fact that we have antibiotics, and you should too.
[00:10:03]  Millions of people used to die from very preventable bacterial infections.
[00:10:08]  Now, you just take an antibiotic, that's praise God for that, right?
[00:10:11]  I think it's a good thing that we have Advil.
[00:10:13]  When I get a headache, I want to have some form of an NSAID or a cetamedophen.
[00:10:18]  But I don't think it's a good thing that when I go out to a restaurant, families are staring at screens and not talking to one another.
[00:10:24]  I think that's awful.
[00:10:25]  I think it's damaging and it's cruel and it's bad for the soul.
[00:10:30]  I don't think it's a good thing that kids are eating processed foods and not going outside in vitamin D during the summer.
[00:10:37]  I don't think it's a good thing that 25% of young boys will spend more time inside than outside the summer.
[00:10:44]  That's crazy.
[00:10:46]  I don't think that's good.
[00:10:47]  I think modernity is worshipped way too much.
[00:10:51]  And in fact, I think we need a restoration of the roots that actually make us human.
[00:10:55]  And from a personal development standpoint, if you're going through these things, you're like, my goodness, my head is constantly spinning.
[00:11:01]  I don't feel the way I could, you know, the way I should is that you've become a product of really dopamine development of mass corporations that are manipulating you to feel isolated, scared, exhausted routinely.
[00:11:15]  And yeah, a lot of it goes through these little digital pacifiers that we think you need.
[00:11:20]  I personally turn off my phone every Friday night and turn it back on Sunday night.
[00:11:24]  That's my Shabbos, which means stop Sabbath in the scriptures.
[00:11:30]  You don't have to be that extreme about it, but it will bless you.
[00:11:34]  The more intentional you are to stay away from the excess of modernity, the better your life will be.
[00:11:41]  And the way that the public school system, the government school system, trains you is that your answers must always be through the products of a modern corporation or a modern thinker.
[00:11:55]  When what if I told you the answers could actually have been 2,000 years ago?
[00:12:02]  Hey, everybody.

=== Are Humans Naturally Good (10:02) ===

[00:12:03]  Look, if you're pro-life, listen carefully.
[00:12:05]  It's important to advocate for pro-life laws.
[00:12:08]  I'm all in favor of that.
[00:12:09]  Pro-life legislation, supporting pro-life candidates.
[00:12:12]  But you have to simultaneously do the other thing.
[00:12:14]  I believe you actually have an obligation, which is to support women in need and babies in need that are at risk of being aborted.
[00:12:22]  Look, when you introduce a girl to her baby by providing an ultrasound, you're giving her the truth at the most critical and important time in her life.
[00:12:31]  85% of the time when they actually see the baby, they choose life.
[00:12:37]  Now, mind you, pre-born provides resources.
[00:12:40]  They provide diapers, baby clothes.
[00:12:43]  And I encourage you, if you're pro-life, to pray about this, are you giving money to actually support the unborn if you are voting for pro-life?
[00:12:49]  Look, $140 gives five mothers a free ultrasound and saves babies.
[00:12:53]  $280 can save 10 babies, and just $28 a month can save a baby a month for less than a dollar a day.
[00:12:58]  I'm a donor to this organization, and you should be too.
[00:13:00]  A $15,000 gift will provide an ultrasound machine that will save lives for years to come.
[00:13:05]  Whether you want to save one baby or five or hundreds, this opportunity is just a phone call or click away.
[00:13:11]  I think the world of pre-born, I give money financially.
[00:13:15]  And every one of you that are pro-life, I believe you have a duty and an obligation to go to preborn.org/slash Kirk and give as you can, give your best gift, or call 833-850-2229.
[00:13:27]  That is 833-850-BABY.
[00:13:30]  Go to preborn.org/slash Kirk.
[00:13:32]  That is preborn.org/slash Kirk.
[00:13:38]  And so then the next most important question you have to struggle with, I believe it's very clear, and every founding father believed it was very clear, is, let me ask you guys: are human beings naturally good or naturally bad?
[00:13:52]  Who wants evil?
[00:13:54]  Anyone think human beings are naturally good?
[00:13:57]  Anybody?
[00:13:57]  Oh, okay.
[00:13:58]  Cool.
[00:14:00]  So let's think about that.
[00:14:02]  Cool.
[00:14:03]  If that was true, why do you have to teach a baby to be good?
[00:14:11]  No, but you have to teach them to not be selfish, stop lying.
[00:14:15]  Where do they learn lying?
[00:14:24]  Where did the kids learn to turn parents against one another?
[00:14:31]  No, by the time they're 18 months years old, they're turning parents against each other.
[00:14:36]  So where did they learn that?
[00:14:40]  Yeah, they're born with it.
[00:14:43]  Yeah.
[00:14:44]  Yes.
[00:14:44]  Do you have a thought on this?
[00:14:46]  It could go either way.
[00:14:46]  If you believe that we're all born with inherent good, we're also born into a world of sin.
[00:14:50]  So that creeps in in every single aspect of our life, whether it was through the mother, through the generation, if you believe that as well.
[00:14:56]  And through your own experiences and your inherent, like growing up as a child, you see different things and you have a choice in your head.
[00:15:04]  And since we are born in a fallen world, that choice can be tempting one way or another.
[00:15:09]  It's like almost instinctual.
[00:15:11]  But if you believe that we were inherently evil, then those are already there.
[00:15:16]  Those are already developed.
[00:15:18]  But before the fall, I think we were inherently good.
[00:15:21]  Good.
[00:15:21]  But we're after the fall, right?
[00:15:25]  You're a Christian, right?
[00:15:26]  What does the scripture say about the heart?
[00:15:30]  What is specifically about the heart?
[00:15:31]  Oh, sorry.
[00:15:32]  Should we follow our heart?
[00:15:35]  If it's led by God, I think yes.
[00:15:38]  But we understand that like Satan understands scripture.
[00:15:41]  So equally the same things that you're reading, he can also manipulate that.
[00:15:45]  And that's why I think it's very careful of what you're listening to.
[00:15:48]  What you consume is super important.
[00:15:50]  This is an important question that most schools don't wrestle with.
[00:15:54]  So I believe human beings are awful.
[00:15:56]  And it's pretty clear.
[00:16:00]  And I know it.
[00:16:01]  I'm raising a daughter.
[00:16:02]  And as soon as you become a parent, you're like, I didn't teach you that, right?
[00:16:08]  And I love her to death.
[00:16:09]  She's super sweet.
[00:16:10]  She is innocent in some ways, incredibly narcissistic.
[00:16:15]  There's, you know, I have to then teach her compassion.
[00:16:18]  I'll give you another, who here had to be taught manners?
[00:16:21]  Yeah, of course, everybody, right?
[00:16:22]  It's not uploaded in your operating system.
[00:16:25]  How about, you know, being taught to say thank you.
[00:16:30]  Yeah, gratitude is not normal.
[00:16:32]  Yes, sir.
[00:16:33]  Yeah, yes, sir, and yes, ma'am, right?
[00:16:35]  Now, you're right.
[00:16:36]  There is some form of a your environment, your parents can direct towards good action.
[00:16:42]  But the question is, and again, I'm not, this is really constructive.
[00:16:46]  I just think it's super important.
[00:16:48]  I'll tell you why.
[00:16:49]  In the state of nature, right?
[00:16:51]  Which is there are three social contract theorists.
[00:16:54]  I pray to goodness that you guys know this.
[00:16:57]  Okay, so the question is: if you just put somebody in the woods, what are they in that state of nature, right?
[00:17:03]  So John Locke believed in tabula rasa, blank slate, neither good nor bad, could be formed by the influences around us.
[00:17:11]  He was the most important and most influential in the American founding.
[00:17:14]  Thomas Hobbes, who I love, wrote The Leviathan, who believed that human beings are nasty, brutish, and short to one another.
[00:17:23]  And he largely believed that because he was writing during the English Civil War and he saw a lot of nasty, brutish, and short behavior.
[00:17:31]  Can't blame him.
[00:17:32]  But then the most tricky of all of them, who I believe is completely wrong, but he is the most powerful influence over modern education when it comes to this question, is a French Genevan philosopher on the name of Jean-Jacques Rousseau.
[00:17:47]  Anybody ever read Rousseau?
[00:17:48]  Okay, good.
[00:17:50]  Read it carefully, please, because he's very tricky.
[00:17:53]  He wrote Confessions and the Idol Walkings of Something.
[00:17:56]  I can't remember the name.
[00:17:58]  And so he believed that human beings are naturally born good, and everything else around us is what contaminates us.
[00:18:08]  So he would value the infant over the adult.
[00:18:12]  He would value the primitive over the civilized.
[00:18:15]  And so he would then extrapolate this.
[00:18:17]  So hear me out.
[00:18:19]  If the human being is naturally good, then he had to go right, Well, then why is there so much injustice?
[00:18:28]  And he said the injustice is then not because the raw material with what you're dealing with needs to be developed, but the society needs to be revolutionized, right?
[00:18:38]  And so Marx saw this and was like, bingo.
[00:18:42]  So then Karl Marx took Rousseau and said, oh, my goodness, human beings are perfect.
[00:18:48]  Now, if human beings, so Rousseau being an idealist, he was the beginner of what is called modern romanticism, okay?
[00:18:57]  Which I think is garbage, but that's, we could, we could debate that, okay?
[00:19:02]  I think there's some beautiful qualities to Rousseau's writing on romanticism, but any of you that deal in the real world know that it's, it's complete nonsense.
[00:19:12]  So, but he would say, oh, look at these tribes, for example, these indigenous tribes.
[00:19:18]  And one of the famous tribes he actually never visited.
[00:19:21]  He heard secondhand, he wrote about how peaceful they were.
[00:19:23]  So then an explorer goes there and they murder him.
[00:19:27]  It's like, yeah, they're not as peaceful as you might think, right?
[00:19:30]  Because his belief was that we're naturally good if you don't contaminate the culture of the civilization.
[00:19:38]  And I see you have a thought, but just give me one sec to close it out.
[00:19:41]  So then Rousseau would believe, therefore, to create a better world, we must change all the isms, get rid of sexism, get to capitalism, get rid of racism, institutionally and systemically.
[00:19:52]  Sound familiar?
[00:19:54]  Right?
[00:19:55]  Whereas John Locke or even Thomas Hobbes, because I'm a radical on this, would say human beings are awful.
[00:20:02]  Therefore, the most important question a society can answer is how do we create good people?
[00:20:10]  And that's what the West used to care about.
[00:20:13]  Every founding father believed that human beings were either naturally awful or naturally neutral, right?
[00:20:21]  Now, if you believe human beings are naturally neutral, we can agree to disagree.
[00:20:24]  If you think human beings are Rousseauian, then we're going to, I'd love to learn more about that because it's just so objectively not true.
[00:20:31]  So, but the issue is at the very least then, the project should be let's worry less about ending climate change and worry more about are you making your bed acting ethically and not watching pornography and not getting, not doing drugs.
[00:20:49]  Do you have a thought really quick?
[00:20:51]  I will say like evil is obviously going to overcome this world.
[00:20:54]  And I think that's why he, in the Bible, he uses people like King David and like Apostle Paul was the worst of sin.
[00:21:00]  And I think it's a testimony showing that like Christ will overcome all evil.
[00:21:05]  And that's overall my belief in that.
[00:21:07]  So yes, sin is strong, but God is stronger.
[00:21:10]  Yeah, no, I agree.
[00:21:11]  And understand that the battle between your, and again, when I say human beings are naturally bad, there are sparks of goodness within you, obviously.
[00:21:23]  You still have a soul and there's a wrestling for it.
[00:21:27]  But without development, education, and parenting, you will anchor into the direction of the nature.
[00:21:35]  You're not going to anchor.
[00:21:36]  So let's just think, for example, you all probably know people that did not get the fatherhood parenting that you would have liked for them.
[00:21:46]  Right?
[00:21:48]  What do we know?
[00:21:49]  They yield towards the gravitational pull of their lower appetites and natures, right?
[00:21:56]  That just goes to show that the natural programming is more in that direction.
[00:22:01]  And so that's why you have to be, okay, the parenting, stop doing this and do that.

=== Avoid Woke Banks for Mortgages (03:36) ===

[00:22:06]  Stop doing this for the 10,000th time, right?
[00:22:08]  The reiteration and the repeating and the incentives and then the punishment.
[00:22:14]  And then, yes, I do agree with you.
[00:22:17]  And for those of you that don't believe in Jesus, the one part that I want to just challenge you, though, is that the reason that we believe Jesus has ultimate authority is that we believe he's the embodiment of truth and that there is an iron law of the universe that points towards things that are objectively true.
[00:22:37]  So at the very least, I hope that there can be At least some wrestling in your own personal ideological and philosophical development of I believe something that is objectively true should be the transcendent organizing principle.
[00:22:55]  I want to tell you guys about something every single one of you can benefit from, and you guys need to change.
[00:23:01]  It's who we use when we go to get mortgages.
[00:23:03]  Look, I balance a lot of stuff.
[00:23:04]  I'm traveling all the time, my show, and I recently needed to get a mortgage to get something figured out.
[00:23:10]  And it was a tough one.
[00:23:11]  And I didn't want to go to those woke banks.
[00:23:13]  I, you know, I did previous, my last mortgage we did, it was with a woke bank, and they were just, they were bureaucratic and they donate the BLM and the gay agenda and all that stuff.
[00:23:22]  And I said, what can I do to actually, and I said, of course, duh, hello, andrewandtodd.com.
[00:23:28]  They're Christian.
[00:23:29]  They're conservative.
[00:23:30]  Our worldviews are aligned.
[00:23:32]  They're fabulous people.
[00:23:33]  When I needed a mortgage, of course, I went to my friends, Andrew Delray and Tadavakin at Sierra Pacific.
[00:23:39]  And look, this is the first time I used them because, you know, we were just recently started doing stuff on the show and partners.
[00:23:44]  I said, okay, let's see how it is.
[00:23:45]  You know, we do a lot of things together.
[00:23:46]  I was blown away.
[00:23:47]  They respond within minutes.
[00:23:49]  They walked me through everything.
[00:23:50]  They took care of all those details I didn't have time for.
[00:23:52]  And I said, boy, guys, I now see how great you guys actually are.
[00:23:56]  Responsive.
[00:23:56]  And yes, no more of this woke stuff.
[00:23:59]  Stop using the woke banks.
[00:24:01]  Oh, I want to refinance my home and I'm going to go to a bank that hates me.
[00:24:04]  Stop doing that.
[00:24:05]  Instead, go to AndrewandTodd.com.
[00:24:07]  So if you or someone you know is moving from blue states to red states, AndrewandTodd.com.
[00:24:11]  Have an aging family member that needs financial relief because you may be a reverse mortgage, AndrewandTodd.com.
[00:24:17]  Are you self-employed and finding it hard to qualify?
[00:24:20]  Or first-time homebuyer?
[00:24:21]  AndrewandTodd.com.
[00:24:23]  Again, what I love, again, I'm just friends with them.
[00:24:25]  So I could tell you, I have no other reason to say this except that it's true.
[00:24:29]  They're fabulous.
[00:24:30]  They work hard.
[00:24:30]  We go out to dinner together.
[00:24:32]  They're great people.
[00:24:33]  So don't depend on those woke banks, the big banks.
[00:24:36]  They do a terrible job, by the way.
[00:24:37]  They're funding all the destructive stuff.
[00:24:39]  They want centralized bank digital currency.
[00:24:41]  They're all part of the great reset.
[00:24:42]  This is a group of guys.
[00:24:43]  They do a great job.
[00:24:45]  And stop depending on woke banks for what I needed.
[00:24:47]  I saw it firsthand.
[00:24:49]  They got it done for me.
[00:24:50]  And it was very complicated.
[00:24:52]  It was a ficket.
[00:24:52]  It was a maze.
[00:24:53]  It was a labyrinth.
[00:24:54]  And they said, oh, you got to do this and this.
[00:24:56]  And I'll make this phone call.
[00:24:56]  We'll do this and this paperwork.
[00:24:58]  And again, these other banks that I deal with, it's like, here's 955,000 pages to sign, and they don't call you back, and they don't work weekends.
[00:25:05]  I had a problem with one of the things on the process because it was one thing that wasn't filled out.
[00:25:09]  And they respond on a Sunday within minutes.
[00:25:11]  You're trying to get a response from a woke bank on a Sunday.
[00:25:14]  You'll say, sorry, no response.
[00:25:16]  So check it out.
[00:25:17]  It's AndrewandTodd.com, 888, 888, 1172.
[00:25:20]  That's how you call them.
[00:25:21]  And say, Charlie Kirk sent you.
[00:25:22]  You might actually get them on the phone.
[00:25:24]  Again, they're value-aligned, honest, trustworthy, wonderful people.
[00:25:28]  I use them.
[00:25:29]  You should use them too.
[00:25:30]  Super responsive, blown away.
[00:25:32]  And I could say, if they're good for me, they're good for you.
[00:25:35]  Love these guys.
[00:25:36]  AndrewandTodd.com, 888, 888, 1172.
[00:25:39]  And finally, some of you might say, oh, Charlie, bad time to buy a home.

=== Lean Into Untouchable Beliefs (07:27) ===

[00:25:43]  I don't know about that.
[00:25:44]  You should look what's happening.
[00:25:45]  Commercial real estate is one thing.
[00:25:47]  Private single-family home ownership, it might actually stabilize and go up in the next year.
[00:25:54]  If you're young, it might be the time to get in.
[00:25:56]  Think about it, pray about it.
[00:25:57]  But most importantly, go to AndrewandTodd.com for all your mortgage needs.
[00:26:01]  Great guys, AndrewandTodd.com.
[00:26:05]  Yes, you have a question?
[00:26:07]  You can be able to say that godly principles are the definition of goodness when we're inherently evil.
[00:26:13]  And so most, and if anyone disagrees, I'm not going to like do the thing that I do on campuses so we could chat.
[00:26:20]  Okay, so we're here to learn, right?
[00:26:24]  And so thank you.
[00:26:26]  Here's the other thing I'll say is that if you're religious, great.
[00:26:30]  If you're not, fine.
[00:26:31]  But it is a fact, and I will hold this, that if a society does not have absolute truth that comes from a belief in the divine, then you're going to live in an awful society.
[00:26:46]  And so there's a belief the founding fathers didn't believe in such a thing.
[00:26:50]  That's not true.
[00:26:52]  They were clear advocates in the Declaration and the Constitution of ethical monotheism, okay?
[00:27:00]  One God.
[00:27:01]  one morality, right?
[00:27:03]  Not paganism, not polytheism.
[00:27:06]  And so there is all, whether it was Catholicism or Episcopalian or Anglican or Presbyterian, it was a garden variety.
[00:27:15]  Charles Carroll, a signer of the Constitution, was Catholic, right?
[00:27:18]  He founder of Maryland, Mary Land, right?
[00:27:21]  So, I mean, there's all sorts of different there, but Thomas Jefferson, who was a very bizarre Christian, but he did, to his great credit, mention God four times in the Declaration of Independence, right?
[00:27:33]  And in fact, at the end of the Declaration of Independence, I encourage you all to read it in your personal time.
[00:27:39]  It is an appeal, which almost could be translated as a prayer, as to the supreme judge of the world, right?
[00:27:46]  You should just read the last paragraph of the Declaration of Independence.
[00:27:49]  It's amazing.
[00:27:50]  And read it not as if you're reading a declaration.
[00:27:53]  Read it as if you're reading something in church.
[00:27:55]  It's a very different prism.
[00:27:56]  We appeal to the supreme judge of the world.
[00:28:01]  That's really charged language, isn't it?
[00:28:04]  And so God is mentioned four times.
[00:28:06]  And so the founders get labeled by modern educators as being these liberal, not like Democrat, liberal, but like Democrat Party, but liberal, modern rejection of all religion.
[00:28:20]  It's just not true.
[00:28:23]  John Adams had one of the most beautiful quotes.
[00:28:25]  You guys probably know it, where he said that the Constitution was written solely for a moral and religious people.
[00:28:32]  It is wholly inadequate for the people of any other, right?
[00:28:35]  So our system, the reason, one of the reasons our country is falling apart, I've actually never said it like this.
[00:28:41]  I'm sure I'm running out of time.
[00:28:41]  I'm sorry.
[00:28:42]  I'm going to go over a little bit.
[00:28:43]  Five minutes, yeah.
[00:28:45]  I'm going to talk to the boss.
[00:28:48]  I'm kidding.
[00:28:48]  I'm giving you a hard time, Nick.
[00:28:50]  One of the, well, I've never said it like this.
[00:28:53]  One of the reasons our country is in a mess is we have an oil and vinegar situation right now.
[00:29:01]  They don't, you ever see oil and vinegar try to mix?
[00:29:04]  It's not, doesn't, doesn't work.
[00:29:07]  The Constitution cannot mesh if the people are not moral and religious.
[00:29:15]  It can't, it's just, you have this Constitution, it's a beautiful document, but then you're dealing with a people that are increasingly secular and not quite moral.
[00:29:24]  It's incompatible.
[00:29:27]  Does that mean we have to throw the whole thing out?
[00:29:29]  Absolutely not, right?
[00:29:30]  But that's one of the reasons you're seeing this catastrophe in our country right now.
[00:29:35]  Yes, you have a question or a thought.
[00:29:36]  Okay, so my question is, what's your advice with dealing with family members who are liberals, but at the end of the day, you still want to love them, but you can't get along with them.
[00:29:47]  What's your advice on that?
[00:29:48]  Yeah, so here, really good question.
[00:29:51]  First of all, let's talk about the types of family members, okay?
[00:29:54]  Not every family member needs to be treated the same.
[00:29:56]  This is like heretical stuff in the modern world.
[00:29:59]  Your parents come first, okay?
[00:30:02]  Unless you were like absolutely physically and sexually abused by your parents, you have to honor your parents, okay?
[00:30:08]  You are, it's good for you, it's good for them, and it's good for the country, okay?
[00:30:11]  Because I get questions.
[00:30:12]  Well, Charlie, my mom was mean to me.
[00:30:14]  That's not a good excuse.
[00:30:15]  It's not.
[00:30:16]  You must treat your parents heavily.
[00:30:18]  You must understand the intergenerational bond.
[00:30:20]  They brought you into this world.
[00:30:22]  They're human.
[00:30:22]  They're flawed.
[00:30:23]  You must honor them.
[00:30:24]  You must go out of your way to remedy your relationship, heal a relationship, even if it's broken.
[00:30:29]  They committed crimes against you.
[00:30:31]  That's not what I'm telling you.
[00:30:32]  Again, that's so rare in the scheme of it.
[00:30:36]  Most people are like, I don't talk to my parents because we don't share a politics.
[00:30:39]  That is inexcusable.
[00:30:40]  You should honor your parents regardless of differences in politics.
[00:30:44]  Now, at the same time, probably not with your parents, but it might happen this way.
[00:30:48]  Whether it's cousins, family members, sisters, aunts, uncles, whatever, you have to be intentional to, if they want to sever a relationship over politics, that's their prerogative.
[00:30:58]  You should never sever relationships over politics.
[00:31:01]  You should try to, again, it's going to happen because unfortunately, one of the hard-charging beliefs of the American left is you shall not have friends with people on the American right.
[00:31:11]  It's like one of their 10 commandments, right?
[00:31:14]  And you shall not, right?
[00:31:16]  You shall not associate.
[00:31:17]  I mean, I'm sure all of you have lost friends and all this, and they left you.
[00:31:20]  You didn't leave them, right?
[00:31:22]  Now, you could probably naturally grow apart because you don't share those values, but you have to be intentional and be like, look, I really don't want to talk about politics.
[00:31:29]  There's other things in the world to talk about.
[00:31:32]  Now, one of the reasons why Turning Point USA is so successful and why you are here is that you actually get to achieve what Aristotle called the highest form of friendship, right?
[00:31:41]  So superficial friendship is like, oh, I like your shoes.
[00:31:44]  Like, let's go hang out.
[00:31:45]  And let's, okay.
[00:31:46]  The second form of friendship is let's do something together, right?
[00:31:49]  Sports team, you know, and those are probably some really good friends, but those don't last.
[00:31:54]  The highest form of friendship, the ultimate friendship, is when both friends are looking at the same teleological purpose.
[00:32:00]  They're looking at the same ultimate truth.
[00:32:03]  Those are real friends.
[00:32:04]  And that's why Turning Point USA is so important is because you're like, I can finally find friends that are looking at the thing far out in the distant that I share.
[00:32:14]  Does that make sense?
[00:32:16]  Where it's not just about shoes or shopping or about, you know, superficial stuff, right?
[00:32:21]  Or even like, you know, winning a sports championship, which is fine, but not ultimately as important.
[00:32:26]  Yes.
[00:32:26]  What issues should we be focusing on in order to move the needle?
[00:32:30]  What issues should you be focusing on to move the needle?
[00:32:32]  Yeah, look, I mean, macro, micro, right?
[00:32:36]  So on the micro level, you're going to be playing a lot of defense with people.
[00:32:40]  It's difficult sometimes to always set the terms properly with that.
[00:32:48]  Here's my take.
[00:32:49]  On macro, I think the trans thing is like the biggest, biggest thing happening in the country right now.
[00:32:57]  People disagree, but I think when you have fundamental biology and speech changed simultaneously, I mean, you're kind of going after existence itself.
[00:33:08]  But yeah, look, here's my advice to you.

=== Navigating Macro and Micro Issues (04:39) ===

[00:33:10]  If you have strong, deeply held beliefs on certain issues that are considered to be untouchable, you should lean in on those.
[00:33:19]  The more you talk about those issues, the more comfortable you will be.
[00:33:24]  The more you'll also realize if you actually believe it or if you're just repeating something you heard on a podcast.
[00:33:30]  And then you'll be able to hear questions about it.
[00:33:32]  And you think, like, oh, that's interesting.
[00:33:34]  I never thought of it that way.
[00:33:35]  The more you have to defend your positions at a younger age, the better prepared you'll be for a lifetime.
[00:33:40]  That's why young conservatives are the remnant.
[00:33:44]  It's because you're constantly defending your positions constantly.
[00:33:47]  You have to go look at sources and facts and listen to broadcasts and all this.
[00:33:51]  Yes, question here.
[00:33:52]  So my question is, you mentioned what you consume is very important.
[00:33:56]  That's right.
[00:33:56]  And with the impact music has on the soul and how demonic our current music industry is, what are your thoughts on the importance of conservatives creating a music industry that glorifies God, family, and country?
[00:34:08]  Yeah, I think some people have tried.
[00:34:11]  I mean, I'm going to get like picketed.
[00:34:13]  I don't like country music.
[00:34:14]  I think it's awful.
[00:34:16]  Yeah.
[00:34:18]  I mean, it's just.
[00:34:21]  Yeah.
[00:34:22]  It's just unbelievably overrated.
[00:34:27]  It's terrible, actually.
[00:34:32]  I like worship music though, so that's that's good.
[00:34:35]  Be careful.
[00:34:36]  I mean, I don't want to be like overly legalistic, but please be careful what worship music you're listening to, okay?
[00:34:44]  Again, I'm really not big on like hyper-legalism, but there is some worship music that it's like, and God said you could do everything you want to do.
[00:34:53]  I'm like, yeah, that's not good.
[00:34:56]  Yeah.
[00:34:57]  Or the one song Reckless Love.
[00:35:01]  It is so theologically stupid.
[00:35:03]  Like there's nothing reckless about the love of God, right?
[00:35:07]  I think they meant well when they wrote it, but and it like sounds poetically cool, but like that's not, that's not supported at all.
[00:35:16]  There are some great music that where they just like reading scriptural verses.
[00:35:20]  So I'm big on worship music.
[00:35:21]  Be careful what you consume.
[00:35:23]  You become who you spend the most time, five people you spend most time with.
[00:35:26]  You should list tonight.
[00:35:28]  Who are the five people you spend the most time with?
[00:35:29]  That's who you're going to be.
[00:35:31]  And then you become and you believe the music, the podcast that you consume the most, right?
[00:35:36]  And the books you read.
[00:35:38]  So decide who you want to be, and that's who you are 90 days out.
[00:35:41]  So if you're around gossiping people, low energy people and negative people, you're going to become that.
[00:35:46]  And if you're around positive people, faith-filled people, you're going to become that.
[00:35:50]  Final question, and I'm going to get really yanked offstage.
[00:35:53]  I'm actually from the El Paso activism hub.
[00:35:55]  Oh, wow.
[00:35:56]  Good for you.
[00:35:57]  And I know there's some other people here from the border.
[00:36:01]  And I'm wondering, I've been wondering for quite some time, what are the most effective ways that you'd say us chapters on the border can take advantage of the first-hand opportunities we've been given, such as seeing illegal aliens storm entries or be escorted by Border Patrol almost every day?
[00:36:16]  Yeah, first of all, be safe.
[00:36:18]  I mean, that's not your role.
[00:36:19]  Your role is to hopefully win hearts and minds over with students and young people.
[00:36:23]  I mean, this here is a, I've lost my patience with this whole thing.
[00:36:27]  The governor of Texas needs to do a lot more and say we're not going to allow another person to illegally come into this country.
[00:36:33]  I just think the whole thing is outrageous.
[00:36:35]  I really do.
[00:36:37]  I don't know why we're putting up with it.
[00:36:39]  We're playing happy dance with this whole thing.
[00:36:41]  It's just, it's nonsense.
[00:36:42]  Yeah, I got it.
[00:36:43]  Do I have five more minutes or I have to go?
[00:36:45]  I have to go.
[00:36:46]  Okay.
[00:36:48]  So for further commentary on that, listen to my podcast, my show.
[00:36:51]  Let me just close in this.
[00:36:52]  We need you guys for our country needs you.
[00:36:54]  Texas, we're doing a big investment in Texas big time.
[00:36:57]  Stay engaged and stay involved.
[00:37:00]  Again, it's the opposite speech you might expect, where you might be expecting me to say, your life is going to become infinitely easier.
[00:37:08]  No, but what did I say?
[00:37:10]  It'll become better.
[00:37:12]  The tougher the thing you do, the younger the age, the better and deeper life.
[00:37:18]  If you want to live a shallow life, go become a trans activist.
[00:37:24]  If you want to leave a fulfilling life full of vitality and promise and hope, you're in the right place.
[00:37:31]  God bless you guys.
[00:37:32]  Thanks so much.
[00:37:37]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
[00:37:38]  Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:37:41]  Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
[00:37:46]  For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.