The Charlie Kirk Show - A Nation of (Their) Rules, Not Laws with Darren Beattie Aired: 2023-06-09 Duration: 34:38 === Pulse of the Trump Indictment (02:02) === [00:00:00] Hey, everybody, today, the Charlie Kirk Show. [00:00:01] Darren Beattie joins us from Revolver.news. [00:00:04] We talk about many different things. [00:00:06] Revolver.news, we talk mostly about the Trump indictment, the administrative state, the Leviathan, the deep state that is going after Donald Trump. [00:00:14] They are not slowing down anytime soon. [00:00:16] Email me, freedom at charliekirk.com. [00:00:19] Support our program, charliekirk.com/slash support. [00:00:23] That is charliekirk.com/slash support. [00:00:27] And get involved with Turning PointUSA Today at tpusa.com. [00:00:30] Buckle up, everybody. [00:00:31] Here we go. [00:00:32] Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. [00:00:33] Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. [00:00:35] I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. [00:00:39] Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. [00:00:42] I want to thank Charlie. [00:00:43] He's an incredible guy. [00:00:44] His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created. [00:00:51] Turning point USA. [00:00:53] We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. [00:01:01] That's why we are here. [00:01:04] Brought to you by the Loan Experts I Trust, Andrew and Todd at Sierra Pacific Mortgage at andrewandTodd.com. [00:01:14] You are living through history. [00:01:16] You at least can thank God that you are not living through boring times. [00:01:20] You know, we're getting a lot of emails. [00:01:22] We have kind of a pulse. [00:01:23] Finger on the pulse. [00:01:24] Yeah. [00:01:24] Better than any show, I think. [00:01:26] I think more than any other show. [00:01:27] And I'd say, you know, about 50-50. [00:01:28] A lot of people are ready to give up. [00:01:30] They think it's overwhelming. [00:01:31] They think, you know what? [00:01:32] There's no point in continuing. [00:01:35] I'm just going to go worry about my own life. [00:01:38] The other half is ready for action. [00:01:39] That's a lot of you right now. [00:01:42] You know, I sent out another tweet that I want to make sure we emphasize. [00:01:46] I think that the Democrats are going to eventually significantly regret pushing us this far. [00:01:52] What does that mean? [00:01:53] I don't mean violence. [00:01:54] I mean that we are now finally going to wake up and motivated to put powerful Democrats behind bars. === Tim Scott's Political Career (06:47) === [00:02:02] Can we start with BLM for their outright charitable fraud that happened in every single red state? [00:02:08] Let's just start there. [00:02:09] We've got to start perp walking these Democrats. [00:02:11] Republican attorneys, if you have a Republican attorney general who does not currently have active criminal investigations into corrupt Democrats, you got to find a new Republican attorney general. [00:02:21] If you have a local DA that's a Republican that is not currently investigating the Democrat crime family or activities, you have to find a new local DA. [00:02:33] Here's a good example, Charlie. [00:02:34] Did you know that the Columbus, Ohio Antifa is one of the most active organized Antifa groups in the country? [00:02:40] That's a red state. [00:02:42] Why can't we have a local government? [00:02:44] They don't have the spine or the intestinal fortitude. [00:02:46] Because here's the thing is that Attorney Generals stands for aspiring governor. [00:02:52] They want to have a political career. [00:02:54] And local DAs, unless it's Alvin Bragg, who is being puppeteered by George Soros and others, they don't want to touch it. [00:03:02] We have to change that mentality. [00:03:04] The only way this stops is if the people that are pushing this think that their friends and their allies and the people in their atmosphere are also going to go to jail. [00:03:14] You see, we do not have a rule of law right now in our country. [00:03:17] They say, well, no one's above the law. [00:03:19] Mike Pence, Chris Christie, John Barrasso. [00:03:21] Nobody's above the law. [00:03:23] There is no law in America. [00:03:25] What there is, is there's a list of rules that are selectively applied depending on the party registration of the target. [00:03:33] The law, by definition, must be blind and equally applied. [00:03:38] That is the promise of the law. [00:03:41] We don't have a law. [00:03:42] We have rules. [00:03:42] No, no, we have rules. [00:03:44] Rules and laws are two totally different things. [00:03:46] And the problem is who gets to enforce the rules? [00:03:49] The people in charge. [00:03:51] The people in charge get to decide who actually has to go to jail for violating those rules. [00:03:57] And so people say, boy, you know, we have to be careful because the law should apply equally. [00:04:04] That has not been the case for quite some time. [00:04:06] Hillary Clinton, the law does not apply to her. [00:04:08] Bill Clinton's not going to go to jail for sexual, alleged sexual relations with children, teenagers, or at least going on planes, child sex trafficking stuff, or his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. [00:04:20] The Clinton crime family is not going to be indicted for their foreign activity through the Clinton Global Initiative and that entire crime syndicate operation. [00:04:28] Don't get your hopes up. [00:04:29] The Joe Biden thing looks like it's finally going in a promising direction towards justice, but don't get your hopes up because we have rules, not laws. [00:04:37] Andrew. [00:04:38] No, I mean, I haven't been as frustrated watching anything as when you were hearing anything as when you were talking about Mike Pence specifically. [00:04:46] Here's a man that would be, you know, doomed to obscurity. [00:04:50] I mean, what do they describe as mayonnaise on toast? [00:04:53] And here he is posturing, actually presenting as if he hasn't a real chance of winning the nomination instead of standing behind a man that basically put him on the map, right? [00:05:06] Okay, you can say it's been tough since then or whatever. [00:05:09] They've had a little spat. [00:05:10] I don't care. [00:05:11] If they come for Trump, they can come for all of them. [00:05:14] Unless, Charlie, and here's what, if I'm being honest where my mind goes, unless they've all made a deal with the devil, unless they are working in cahoots with this uniparty establishment, Intel, you know, Leviathan that has six ways from Sunday of getting back at you. [00:05:30] These men that are, these men that feel like they have impunity from this system and the pomposity, the smugness, and they are, again, there is celebration. [00:05:40] I don't know this for a fact, but I could just see it in their vocab and their diction from Chris Christie and Mike Pence. [00:05:48] I guarantee you, everybody, in private, they're smirking and smiling and chuckling and delight. [00:05:56] Yeah. [00:05:56] I guarantee you. [00:05:58] I want to look them in the eyes and be like, do you want the presidency so bad that you're willing to risk the Republic? [00:06:04] I mean, what's left of it at this point? [00:06:06] No, they hate Donald Trump that much. [00:06:07] There's a lot of revenge. [00:06:08] There's a lot of penniness. [00:06:10] Listen. [00:06:10] And look, President Trump is a high-charging. [00:06:14] He wants excellence from everybody, business guy, and he doesn't get along with all of them. [00:06:18] Okay, so he called you some bad names. [00:06:20] Mike Pence, he built you a beautiful political career. [00:06:23] And then you say, well, well, no one is above the law. [00:06:25] What a cheap, ridiculous soundbite. [00:06:28] What are you legal editor at MSNBC where you don't think? [00:06:32] You go out there and you're parroting some sort of CNN operation mocking. [00:06:36] My running mate, my running mate. [00:06:38] My running mate? [00:06:38] No, that's the president of the United States, pal. [00:06:41] All right. [00:06:42] Or Chris Christie, well, Donald Trump did this to himself. [00:06:45] Yeah, like, just like you closed the bridge, man. [00:06:47] You know all about doing things to yourself. [00:06:49] I'm going to go here. [00:06:50] Let's go to this. [00:06:52] This actually is a pretty, believe it or not, of all the people, Tim Scott's been really good. [00:06:58] Senator Tim Scott has. [00:07:00] I mean, again, I grade on a curve because he's more of a moderate member of the Senate, but even better than Mike Pence, play cut 114. [00:07:11] The one thing that makes America the city on the hill is confidence in our justice system. [00:07:18] And today, what we see is a justice system where the scales are weighted. [00:07:24] And in America, every single person is presumed innocent, not guilty. [00:07:30] And what we've seen over the last several years is the weaponization of the Department of Justice against the former president. [00:07:38] You don't have to be a Republican to see injustice and want to fix it. [00:07:43] You don't have to be a Democrat to see injustice and want to fix it. [00:07:47] You just have to be an American and stand up for the right thing. [00:07:52] Not bad. [00:07:53] I'd give that a six out of 10. [00:07:54] Pretty good for Tim Scott. [00:07:55] Not going to get new nuclear warheads. [00:07:57] We're not going to get Mark Bannon. [00:07:58] Yeah, we're not going to get Steve Bannon out of Tim Scott, but it's better. [00:08:01] No Charlie Kirk out of Tim Scott. [00:08:04] There's Mo right there. [00:08:06] So, how are you doing? [00:08:07] Steve Bannonstadters. [00:08:08] Yes, Watchers. [00:08:10] I think like Chief of Staff of War Room, right? [00:08:12] Oh, CEO. [00:08:13] CEO. [00:08:14] CEO of Chief Executive Officer. [00:08:16] There you go. [00:08:17] And a biological war. [00:08:19] You're not going to get the ban and fire breathing from Tim Scott. [00:08:21] Right. [00:08:21] But from grading on the curve, that's pretty good. [00:08:24] He didn't say no one's above the law. [00:08:26] He didn't say, oh, the president put it upon himself. [00:08:28] Fine. [00:08:28] Okay. [00:08:29] If you are listening to this, and we know y'all clip this show. [00:08:33] We know it gets passed around. [00:08:35] If the presidential candidates are watching this show, take some free advice. [00:08:41] Lead the charge because the country absolutely depends on it. [00:08:45] Andrew, but they have consultants. [00:08:47] I'm sick of these consultants. [00:08:48] They're pro-Pride. === Magnesium Advice for Candidates (03:00) === [00:08:50] Some of our members have pride, and they just don't really get it. [00:08:54] They hate Trump so much, they live in their own little bottle. [00:08:56] You got to know what time it is, Charlie. [00:08:58] They know what time it is, right? [00:08:59] Consultants have so much power over these candidates. [00:09:02] To your point, listen, we talk about how Northern Virginia, surrounding areas of D.C., these are the richest neighborhoods in the country. [00:09:10] And these people are living behind gated communities during their own time, and then they come into Alexandria or whatever, and they do their consultant thing, and they think that they're living in 1993. [00:09:19] Okay. [00:09:19] Folks, the weaponization of the DOJ, this is becoming like a cliche. [00:09:24] Yeah, it's weaponized and it's dangerous and the republic's at stake, honestly. [00:09:29] They don't know what time it is. [00:09:30] That's my problem. [00:09:31] Most because there is a or maybe they know it and they don't care. [00:09:35] They don't want to acknowledge it. [00:09:38] And they don't want to admit that there's something really wrong. [00:09:41] They don't want to admit denial. [00:09:43] You think denial is a huge psychological. [00:09:47] It's a serious psychological. [00:09:49] This is interesting because there is, there is, you know, we even struggle with it sometimes. [00:09:53] I'm a little older than you, but you're 29 and it's like, yeah, but we still remember a country that didn't behave like this. [00:10:00] Imagine if you're 50, 60, 70 years old in the country that you inherited. [00:10:05] I mean, it is a, yeah, denial, right? [00:10:07] Something you love changing so drastically. [00:10:09] That's important. [00:10:10] We're going to pick that up. [00:10:13] All right. [00:10:14] Here's a fun pop quiz for you. [00:10:15] How many sailors throughout history died from scurvy caused by a vitamin C deficiency during the time of Columbus? [00:10:23] Is it A, 20,000? [00:10:24] B, 200,000, or C, 2 million. [00:10:27] Got your answer? [00:10:29] It's 2 million. [00:10:30] Geez, that's like a genocide of low vitamin C. Would you believe 2 million people had to die before we figured that out? [00:10:36] Well, here's what gets crazier. [00:10:37] There's a little known deficiency right now killing millions of people around the world and the disease it's causing. [00:10:43] Insomnia. [00:10:44] According to a study published by Academic Press, magnesium deficiency is a leading cause in sleep disruption in both children and adults. [00:10:51] Look, I can attest to this. 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[00:11:39] Great company. [00:11:40] Magbreakthrough.com slash Kirk and use promo code Kirk10 for 10% off your first bottle. [00:11:48] Black pill warning. [00:11:49] You know what a black pill is? === Lawfare and Petty Aspirations (15:34) === [00:11:51] It's not a red pill. [00:11:52] It's just where it's just not good news. [00:11:54] Black pill, thy name is Blake. [00:11:56] But that is he's a black pill opiate dealer. [00:11:59] Just give us out. [00:12:00] We'll explain that one at a later time. [00:12:01] Yeah, you'll be introduced to Blake at the right time when you really want to be cynical. [00:12:06] So this is really bad for the country. [00:12:11] Look, we're going to end up winning. [00:12:13] And I'm going to tell you why in a second. [00:12:15] I can't guarantee that, but I think that as long as we keep our attitude and our resolve, they can't take that from us and we refuse to be demoralized. [00:12:22] I'm not excited about seeing Democrats go to jail. [00:12:25] I don't find delight or joy in the suffering of others. [00:12:28] I don't. [00:12:29] I don't find joy or delight to say that, hey, I want BLM to be criminally investigated. [00:12:33] I think it's necessary. [00:12:34] I think it's important. [00:12:36] There are people outright publicly celebrating this stuff. [00:12:39] They are having parties. [00:12:40] I mean, it's already Pride Month, so good. [00:12:42] They already know whatever they're doing in Pride Month. [00:12:46] And now they have a whole other thing to celebrate. [00:12:49] This is, I mourn for what comes next. [00:12:54] And just be ready. [00:12:55] This is how it's going to work, right? [00:12:58] So we're now going to increase our language. [00:13:01] And the media is going to say, oh, right-wing people threatening to use legal system against their political opponents. [00:13:07] They're going to now like accuse us. [00:13:11] They're going to be like, right, you know, popular thing in Republican circles to indict your political. [00:13:17] Republicans pounce. [00:13:18] Yeah, they're radical domestic extremists. [00:13:21] So just don't listen to any of that. [00:13:23] This is really damaging stuff. [00:13:25] This is almost, we don't know how to recover the Republic type stuff. [00:13:30] Where here's the guarantee, though. [00:13:33] And this is the, you have to swallow this pill. [00:13:36] You have to stomach this. [00:13:38] Is that after what they've done, you cannot just act as if things are and do nothing. [00:13:43] You can't. [00:13:44] Sorry, you have nothing but bad options. [00:13:46] Okay. [00:13:47] So the bad option A is we act as if we live in the 1980s, like, oh, shucks, gosh, Gary, like Asa Hutchinson. [00:13:55] Let's play rock, paper, scissors and castrate kids because Reagan would want us to do that, right? [00:13:59] Or you do the Chris Christie thing, right? [00:14:01] Which is just do whatever the regime wants and normalize obesity in our political leaders. [00:14:09] So that's bad, right? [00:14:10] That's really tempting to just act in total denial and stay in that state of mind. [00:14:19] The other option is you have to have an equal and opposite reaction. [00:14:25] You got to start indicting them. [00:14:26] You got to start investigating them. [00:14:28] Republican DAs, Republican AGs, you got to be ferocious. [00:14:31] You got to be clear. [00:14:32] You got to be aggressive. [00:14:33] You have to be obviously fair and lawful. [00:14:36] But you got to find things in the criminal code that Democrats are violating, and you got to start indicting them. [00:14:42] It's not just Trump. [00:14:43] As we mentioned, it's Bannon. [00:14:44] It's O'Keefe. [00:14:45] It's the lawfare across the board. [00:14:47] And so you have nothing but bad options. [00:14:49] Through door A, they pummel us and they obliterate us and they steamroll us and the country is over. [00:14:54] Through door B, we actually embrace lawfare and maybe we can get to a place where we sign a peace treaty. [00:15:01] Maybe. [00:15:02] You have nothing but two bad options. [00:15:04] Door A, we guarantee to lose. [00:15:06] Door B, you have a chance to eventually save the country, but it's going to be nasty and brutish and cruel. [00:15:14] But at least you have some hope. [00:15:15] No, this is an opportunity, Charlie. [00:15:17] I think I have two notes. [00:15:19] First note is you're obviously saying if a crime has been committed. [00:15:23] Obviously, that has to be the guiding principle. [00:15:27] I'll show you the crime. [00:15:27] Yeah, exactly. [00:15:28] I mean, this is how they approach us. [00:15:29] And this is, if you actually want peace, all right, so it's the exact opposite of the way that the mainstream news media is going to spin it. [00:15:37] If you actually want peace, you have to have mutually assured destruction. [00:15:41] You're going to weaponize the justice system against conservatives, against your political opponents. [00:15:48] If you are willing to get in the middle of an election to attempt to imprison your top political opponent, Donald Trump, who's polling, by the way, like 35% above his rivals, right? [00:16:00] If you're willing to do that, then we have to be willing to do it too. [00:16:03] If you love this country, the only way that we get to peace is you have to be willing to escalate the fight equally. [00:16:09] You have two options, right? [00:16:11] Option A is you do the Asa Hutchinson, Chris Christie, Mike Pence thing. [00:16:14] Try to win them over and try to not have them eat you and be the eat-me-last Republicans, right? [00:16:20] And just throw all of it, you know, throw Charlie Kirk overboard, throw Steve Bannon overboard, throw Donald Trump overboard, and hope that when the parasites come to your door, they're somehow not going to devour you, right? [00:16:31] That's the current perspective of the Republican Party. [00:16:34] Where you are with a basis is door B or option B, which is this big sigh. [00:16:40] Man, this sucks. [00:16:42] This is not good. [00:16:43] But they started it, and we're going to finish it. [00:16:46] We're going to indict you. [00:16:47] We're going to subpoena you. [00:16:49] We're going to arrest you until you say, we don't want to take anymore. [00:16:52] We want to come to a peace settlement where we come back to the middle and we'll happily sign some sort of peace treaty that says former presidents are off limits. [00:16:59] Talk show hosts are off limits in the sense of like these little rink-a-dink pedestrian process crimes, right? 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[00:18:48] I mean, you can't state it enough how egregious and really third world it is to have a sitting president's Department of Justice slap some clearly manufactured contrived charge in order to cripple his political opposition. [00:19:08] In this case, Trump, who is the frontrunner in 2024 for the Republicans by far. [00:19:14] Andrew, do you want to pick it up? [00:19:15] No, I mean, I think what you're talking about is something that we've been reiterating on the show, Darren, that this is clearly manufactured. [00:19:22] It's clearly basically a document process paperwork dispute that they're trumping up pun intended to target a political opponent. [00:19:31] I mean, we see that, we see that Rachel Maddow clip. [00:19:33] I'm sure you've seen it, Darren, where she's basically giving up, saying the quiet part out loud, saying, well, maybe there's a plea deal to be had. [00:19:40] He agrees not to run, and then we'll reduce the charges. [00:19:44] You don't have to spend any time in prison. [00:19:46] Darren, what is your take on the best way, you know, short of dropping out of the race? [00:19:54] If you're in Donald Trump's camp right now, what is your advice to them? [00:19:57] What are you telling them to do from a messaging standpoint, optics standpoint, and next steps? [00:20:02] Well, you got to play it up really hard in the messaging. [00:20:04] I mean, they're attacking him for precisely the reason that all American patriots need to rally around his defense. [00:20:12] And that is he is the number one threat to the regime. [00:20:16] He's the number one threat to the ruling establishment. [00:20:19] He's the number one threat to the illegitimate crooks who continue to run this country into the ground. [00:20:25] No one else has seen anything remotely close to the constant abuse and constant attempts to cripple him in every single capacity. [00:20:36] So I think he needs to make that an integral part of the messaging. [00:20:40] They're coming after me in an unprecedented way because he threatens the system in an unprecedented way. [00:20:48] And beyond the messaging part, I would say cooperate to the absolute minimum. [00:20:54] You know, make them, if they're going to do it, you know, call their bluff. [00:20:58] Force them to actually make the step of physically arresting him, doing all this stuff. [00:21:04] If that's where they want to take it, force them to do it and fully expose the American people. [00:21:10] What a sham, illegitimate country we've become. [00:21:13] So, Darren, you know, I've been calling on other Republican candidates to actually show that we have an opposition party in this country. [00:21:20] What are your thoughts, Darren, about Republicans taking a stand against this and dropping their own petty political aspirations aside and saying that there is a transcendent truth here that is being threatened, that transcendent truth is justice, is that we're not going to become a tyrannical Maoist country where on demand we just get to create, [00:21:46] we get to create interpretations of an antiquated criminal code against former presidents that we don't like, that elections don't matter. [00:21:54] Darren, what's really in contrast here is the Department of Justice is basically saying the will of the people and the consent of the governed, we don't care. [00:22:06] We're going to directly get into this. [00:22:08] Shouldn't every Republican suspend their campaign ahead of Tuesday as a show of solidarity and support against what is obviously a Maoist campaign against a former president? [00:22:19] I think at the very least, other candidates need to realize that this is much bigger than themselves. [00:22:24] This is much bigger even than 2024. [00:22:27] I mean, it's important to remind ourselves, this is simply unprecedented. [00:22:32] Yes, Trump is the frontrunner for the GOP slot in 2024, but he's also a former president of the United States. [00:22:40] This is an office that rightly enjoys a tremendous amount of deference when it comes to these things. [00:22:47] Now, I can imagine if a former president actually, to take an example, shoot someone on Fifth Avenue, then they would undergo the criminal process like anyone else. [00:22:59] But for these clearly trivial, clearly petty, contrived, politically motivated charges, if they allow this to go through, this is going to be the norm. [00:23:09] Any president, any politician who makes any attempt to threaten the regime or the establishment is going to get the Biden DOJ banana boat treatment in the future. [00:23:22] And it might even get to the stage where if someone isn't indicted, it's going to be a red flag saying, are you so milquetoast? [00:23:30] Are you so unthreatening that you haven't even been indicted? [00:23:33] What's the matter with you? [00:23:34] That's where it's going to go. [00:23:36] So I think all of these other guys, they need to understand this is bigger. [00:23:40] Unless we want to hand the regime the keys to the car and say anytime you find someone threatening, you can take them off the chessboard with contrived petty indictments. [00:23:50] We have to all collectively take a stand against this. [00:23:54] Yeah, dude, that's a brilliant, brilliant. [00:23:56] It's like getting indicted is going to become the new, have you not been kicked off of Twitter or have you not gotten your YouTube suspended for a little while? [00:24:04] I mean, that's really what it's becoming, right? [00:24:06] It's like the natural progression. [00:24:08] The Maoists overtook tech and now they've filtered into the halls of government. [00:24:11] But, Darren, I want to focus because you're really good at pulling back the layers on the deep state, especially when it comes to the Justice Department. [00:24:19] You're reporting on J6 with second to none. [00:24:23] Let's talk about Jack Smith. [00:24:25] What is your take on this man, right? [00:24:27] Much has been made of his time in the Netherlands, The Hague, and all this. [00:24:32] I mean, he seems like a guy that pushes, that he expands the statute interpretations that others would have more of a prudent, conservative approach. [00:24:43] He expands this. [00:24:44] He pushes forward. [00:24:45] He's had other attacks that lawmakers get overturned by the Supreme Court in the case of his Virginia case. [00:24:53] What is your read on this man? [00:24:55] Is he just going to keep pushing? [00:24:56] Is he a dog with a bone? [00:24:58] It's hard to say, but it certainly looks like it's going in that direction. [00:25:02] But look, I mean, with these kinds of things, if there's prosecutorial gymnastics involved, you've heard of prosecutorial discretion. [00:25:10] There's prosecutorial gymnastics. [00:25:12] And in order to affect this, you need the similar types of cognitive gymnastics undertaken at the judicial level to come remotely close to sustaining such a clearly petty and politically motivated case such as this. [00:25:27] So it just, you know, it just remains to be seen. [00:25:31] Trump needs to recognize this. [00:25:33] He needs to incorporate it into his messaging. [00:25:35] And he needs to call their bluff, saying, you're going to hit me with something so petty, okay? [00:25:40] I'm going to force you to go all out and make a spectacle of it so the American people can see just how low you're willing to go to take the number one threat to the regime off the political chessboard. [00:25:53] You know, so Darren, I'm going to read just a title here from Dan Bongino. [00:25:57] Dan Bongino says, RIP USA, he says, the country that we grew up in is dead, over. [00:26:03] Now, that might be a little bit hyperbole. [00:26:05] I haven't listened to all of it, but we've said the same, though. [00:26:08] I mean, to be fair. [00:26:09] I mean, I believe. [00:26:10] You're the first person I heard say that. [00:26:11] The country you grew up in is gone. [00:26:13] Yes. [00:26:13] And so, Darren, we must then think of what next. [00:26:16] We are going through the binary of door A, which is to do the Chris Christie, Assa Hutchinson thing, and to try to win over the deep state and hope they don't devour us and throw the rats they don't, you know, the quote-unquote rats they don't like off the ship, like Charlie Kirk and Darren Beattie and, you know, all this. [00:26:33] Or we can go to door B and with a sigh and with regret, not with regret, but with just a sense of disappointment, enter door B and say it's time for us to have mutually assured destruction. [00:26:49] Yeah. [00:26:49] So, Darren, what are the next steps? [00:26:51] I think it's time for perp walks, handcuffs, subpoenas, indictments, and investigations. [00:26:56] What is your thought, Darren B? [00:26:57] I'm all for it, but the reality is we need a critical mass of people who aren't complete abject cowards in order to make this mutually assured destruction happen. [00:27:08] And I think Trump, you know, he's always been on the front lines. [00:27:11] He's the leader of the movement. [00:27:12] He needs to make the example. [00:27:14] And that's what I say. [00:27:14] Call their bluff because I really don't think they want to see what happens in the country if they actually go through with the process of saying we're putting handcuffs on this guy. === Reading Classified Documents (07:12) === [00:27:25] We're putting him through the political process. [00:27:27] We're taking him off the chessboard in 2024. [00:27:31] American people know they deserve a chance at this election to say who they want. [00:27:35] I mean, again, it's so many, it's such a violation on so many levels of everything that Americans like to think of themselves as, according to our self-conception, as a free country, as a democracy. [00:27:48] If this were happening in any other country, you know, a country at least that's a foreign adversary, we'd be talking about regime change at this point. [00:27:57] But now it's in our country. [00:27:59] The regime we have in place is pretty much just as bad as any of the regimes that we talked about and demonize. [00:28:06] But it's in our own backyard now. [00:28:08] Until we exercise the demons, so to speak, the country will continue to go into the toilet bowl. [00:28:16] We are sending weapons to Ukraine because we're told that we should fight tyranny while our own government becomes more tyrannical, in some ways more so than Vladimir Putin's. [00:28:25] 2.1 billion more in arms just announced today, by the way, folks. [00:28:30] Do you remember? [00:28:31] Is it Navalani, right, who's in prison? [00:28:34] The Navalny? [00:28:35] Political dissident in Russia, Navalny, and all the media. [00:28:39] Oh, it's so terrible. [00:28:40] And look all this. [00:28:41] But then when our own country indicts political opposition and dissidents, we kind of shrug our shoulders. [00:28:48] Like, meh. [00:28:49] The principle is the same. [00:28:51] It all comes down to the people that the intelligence agencies like or don't like. [00:28:55] They love Navalny. [00:28:57] They hate Trump. [00:28:58] And for good reason, because he domestically is the one guy who stands to upend the corrupt system that they've been running for so long. [00:29:08] Darren Beattie, check out Revolver.news. [00:29:10] Darren, thank you so much. [00:29:11] Thank you, Charlie. [00:29:15] All right, we're reading through this indictment right now. [00:29:19] It has been unsealed. [00:29:20] Yep. [00:29:21] Right? [00:29:22] Yep. [00:29:22] No, I'm reading through it as well. [00:29:24] So here's what it says. [00:29:25] You know, again, more specifics. [00:29:28] They are alleging that the United States nuclear programs, potential vulnerabilities of the United States and its allies to military attack, and plans for possible retaliation in response to a foreign attack are among the documents, the classified documents that Trump maintained. [00:29:41] The unauthorized disclosure of these classified documents could put at risk the national security of the United States, foreign relations, the safety of the United States military and human sources, and the continued viability of sensitive intelligence collection methods. [00:29:55] All right. [00:29:55] And they're saying he stored these at Mar-a-Lago, which is an active social club, tens of thousands of members and guests. [00:30:03] Point six, on two occasions in 2021, Trump showed classified documents to others. [00:30:08] In July 2021, at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, during an audio-recorded meeting with a writer, a publisher, and two members of his staff, none of whom possessed a security clinch, Trump showed and described a, quote, plan of attack that Trump said was prepared for him by the Department of Defense and a senior military official. [00:30:27] Trump told the individuals that the plan was highly confidential and secret. [00:30:31] Trump also said, as president, I could have declassified it, and now I can't, you know, but this is still a secret. [00:30:36] So what this tells me, by the way, Charlie, that this story, before this was unsealed, broke in CNN. [00:30:42] So we have leaked after leak after leak, right? [00:30:45] So this is proof that somebody leaked this early to CNN. [00:30:48] It was actually included in now the unsealed indictment. [00:30:52] That is proof positive that this DOJ is doing a trial by PR. [00:30:57] This is a publicity trial against the former president right here. [00:31:01] Let's go back to, well, Cut 119, as we're reading this indictment, Joe Biden admitting having classified documents in his garage dating back to 1974. [00:31:08] You think Joe Biden's going to be indicted anytime soon? [00:31:11] Play Cut 119. [00:31:12] The best of my knowledge, the kinds of things they picked up are things that are from 1974 and stray papers. [00:31:20] There may be something else I don't know. [00:31:22] And then Cut 116 asked about classified documents. [00:31:25] Joe Biden had the same thing. [00:31:27] He had them in his garage with the Corvette. [00:31:30] not going to get indicted because we do not have a law in our country or a legal system we have a rules-based system and in a rules-based system important distinction those in charge get to enforce what rules they want and which ones they do not want play cut 116. [00:31:45] you said just possessing classified documents is you said totally irresponsible so what was totally irresponsible but the fact that you had some what They've informed me not to speak to this issue to any way try to prejudice the investigation that's going on. [00:32:04] And the other important part of the indictment, as we're reading it, Andrew is, but I want to just read the lead. [00:32:12] Donald Trump and Walt Nada. [00:32:15] This is how you go after the mob every day. [00:32:17] So here's what specifically, this is point seven. [00:32:21] This is the obstruction case that they're trying to build. [00:32:23] They're basically saying Trump endeavored to obstruct the FBI and grand jury investigations and conceals continued retention of classified documents by, among other things, and this is the Waltine Nada piece, B, directing defendant Walteen Nada to move boxes of documents to conceal them from Trump's attorneys, the FBI, and the grand jury. [00:32:43] By the way, it's important to state that all of these documents have been recovered, right, after they raided Mar-a-Lago and they posted the pictures online of all the, you know. [00:32:51] He didn't burn them or destroy them. [00:32:53] And again, he has full authority. [00:32:56] This is the issue. [00:32:57] This is the crux. [00:32:58] As president to declassify them under the Presidential Records Act. [00:33:02] The issue is that Trump, in a showman-type way, was caught on tape bragging that he had documents that he did not declassify. [00:33:12] Right? [00:33:13] That's in the indictment. [00:33:14] I could have declassified it as president, is what he said. [00:33:17] What was the exact quote? [00:33:18] It's going to be up to a very, very talented defense attorney to explain that one, right? [00:33:24] Because either way, the prosecution is going to do it. [00:33:26] It's right there. [00:33:26] It's right here. [00:33:27] Here's the dialogue. [00:33:28] Trump said, this was done by the military and given to me. [00:33:30] I think we probably can. [00:33:31] Staffer, I don't know. [00:33:32] We'll have to see. [00:33:33] Yeah, we'll have to. [00:33:34] Trump said, declassify it. [00:33:35] And Staffer said, figure out, yeah. [00:33:38] And Trump said, see, as president, I could have declassified it. [00:33:41] Hold on, let me see that. [00:33:42] That's in the indictment. [00:33:43] This was done by the Trump. [00:33:46] This is so weak to indict somebody on this, but this is where their case is hinging on, right? [00:33:51] This little back and forth caught on audio, which is completely subjective, circumstantial. [00:33:57] He could have been joking. [00:33:58] This very well could be an indictment based on a joke. [00:34:01] I'm seriously. [00:34:02] Yeah, no, no. [00:34:03] I totally, you know, I mean, I know Trump's, I know his vibe. [00:34:06] I know how he is. [00:34:07] It could have just been a, oh, you know, as president, I could have been, you know, or just classify. [00:34:11] It could have just been humor. [00:34:13] But there's no humor with the DOJ. [00:34:17] Hey, we did put a meme maker in prison, though. [00:34:19] Douglas Mackey's prison. [00:34:20] Humor is indictable now. [00:34:24] Thanks so much for listening, everybody. [00:34:26] Email us your thoughts. [00:34:26] As always, freedom at charliekirk.com. 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