The Charlie Kirk Show - The Fight for Liberty Every Single Day — LIVE from the First Liberty Institute
Aired: 2023-04-30
Duration: 54:17


=== Gratitude to Supporters (03:35) ===

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[00:00:58]  Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
[00:00:59]  Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
[00:01:02]  I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
[00:01:05]  Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
[00:01:08]  I want to thank Charlie.
[00:01:09]  He's an incredible guy.
[00:01:10]  His spirit, his love of this country.
[00:01:12]  He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.
[00:01:17]  Turning point USA.
[00:01:19]  We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
[00:01:27]  That's why we are here.
[00:01:31]  So I thought this would be a great time to bring up Charlie.
[00:01:33]  And as he's coming up, I want you, you know, some of you haven't seen Charlie and kind of what he does.
[00:01:39]  You might have seen him on TV.
[00:01:40]  So I thought I'd show a little clip of him on a college campus, which is kind of how he got started and give you a feel for how Charlie got started and what he does.
[00:01:49]  Israel has done nothing but defended their borders since their legal declaration of existence in 1948.
[00:01:57]  Israel bombed Lebanon and I was there and I was evacuated in 2006.
[00:02:01]  As a defensive measure when Hezbollah, the terrorist, started attacking them from the north.
[00:02:06]  Hezbollah is a recognized international terrorist organization.
[00:02:09]  Israel should do everything it possibly can to obliterate Hezbollah.
[00:02:11]  Can I ask you?
[00:02:12]  Are you pro-Hezbullah or?
[00:02:13]  Can I ask you a question?
[00:02:14]  Sure, happy to.
[00:02:15]  What formal education I do have?
[00:02:17]  Plenty.
[00:02:18]  I mean, formal education.
[00:02:21]  If you're going to argue from authority, that's a logical fallacy.
[00:02:24]  Tell me why I'm wrong.
[00:02:25]  Don't tell me how many degrees you have.
[00:02:27]  Don't ask me to change the conversation.
[00:02:28]  I'm actually small.
[00:02:30]  I would argue I'm more informed because I didn't go to college and I've traveled the world and I've met with world leaders and I've read many books.
[00:02:36]  So tell me how am I oppressive?
[00:02:40]  Can you name one example of how I'm oppressive?
[00:02:42]  I can name a lot of examples.
[00:02:43]  Can you name one?
[00:02:44]  Name one example of how I'm oppressive because you just said it.
[00:02:46]  I'm not literally here telling people that they are wrong about using their...
[00:02:48]  Well, no, they just don't have facts.
[00:02:49]  Can you tell me one time that I've been wrong about anything I've said?
[00:02:52]  Tell me a time that Israel has launched an offensive war.
[00:02:55]  They didn't.
[00:02:55]  They're attacking Hezbollah.
[00:02:57]  It's within their borders.
[00:02:58]  It goes to Lebanon.
[00:02:59]  They don't just attack Hezbollah.
[00:03:00]  Hezbollah occupies southern Lebanon, which is Iranian-funded, is it not?
[00:03:03]  Really?
[00:03:03]  I had no idea.
[00:03:04]  Thank you for informing me.
[00:03:05]  Anytime.
[00:03:06]  Maybe if you didn't go to college, you would learn more.
[00:03:10]  As Charlie said, that's an old video.
[00:03:12]  I know.
[00:03:13]  I just wanted to go back to the basics when he was just starting.
[00:03:16]  In fact, let's go to the very basics, which is when you were growing up, how did you get, like, I mean, because we're going to talk a little bit about how you started.
[00:03:28]  And at a really early age, you were speaking.
[00:03:34]  You had read a lot.

=== The Problem with College (16:05) ===

[00:03:35]  I mean, how did this, what influenced you to kind of be where you were at age 16 and 17 and 18?
[00:03:42]  Well, honor to be here.
[00:03:43]  I love First Liberty, and all of you should give generously to First Liberty.
[00:03:46]  They do great work.
[00:03:47]  And I don't say that about a lot because I run a nonprofit, and there's a lot of talkers out there.
[00:03:52]  And First Liberty, they play to win, I got to tell you, and they win a lot.
[00:03:56]  And the country's in a much better place because of them.
[00:03:59]  So you guys should really get behind them tonight.
[00:04:02]  So yeah, I started Turning Point.
[00:04:03]  I started in this fight 11 years ago because I was really worried that we were losing the country.
[00:04:08]  Boy, what do I think now?
[00:04:10]  That's a whole separate topic.
[00:04:12]  I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago.
[00:04:15]  I saw the beginning stages of this indoctrination of Marxism, collectivism, totalitarianism.
[00:04:21]  And I was really worried that the younger generation was not being taught these ideas.
[00:04:26]  And it was mostly focused on economics at the time because we used to talk about that stuff a lot in our country.
[00:04:31]  Now we're just getting more to the fundamental things of men can give birth or whatever kids are learning now on these campuses.
[00:04:39]  But the motivating factor for me remains exactly the same, which is I do not, I'm not a good spectator.
[00:04:46]  I don't like bullies and I hate evil.
[00:04:50]  I hate evil because I love God.
[00:04:52]  And it says in Psalm 97, 10, those who love God should hate evil.
[00:04:56]  I don't think Christians are doing a good enough job of hating evil in America right now.
[00:05:00]  I think that we're doing a very poor job of that.
[00:05:03]  I think we do other things well.
[00:05:05]  I think we love the homeless and feed the hungry.
[00:05:10]  I don't think we're hating evil very well.
[00:05:12]  And so that's just my, that's how I was raised.
[00:05:16]  It's how I'm built.
[00:05:18]  I don't sit on the sidelines well when I see something I love abused by people that I think are filled with demonic spirits.
[00:05:26]  And I don't say that lightly.
[00:05:27]  It is diabolical what's happening in our country right now.
[00:05:30]  It is a spiritual war that manifests in the physical.
[00:05:33]  And I want to do my part.
[00:05:35]  I've been doing this for 11 years.
[00:05:37]  The Lord has blessed our organization and our effort immensely.
[00:05:40]  And the animating force 11 years ago was and is still to this day is I'm not going to do all of it, but I am going to play my role.
[00:05:49]  And my role is going to be waking up early and going to bed late, traveling to college and high school campuses and trying to teach people, young people in particular, why this is the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.
[00:06:01]  And now it has kind of turned into a survival mission of whether or not this republic can continue.
[00:06:08]  The opposition, the revolution, as we should call them, they are steps away from the Bastille.
[00:06:13]  They're very close to taking over the entire country.
[00:06:16]  They're not there yet.
[00:06:17]  There's still some counter moves we can take.
[00:06:19]  But 11 years ago, I was always just kind of the odd teenager, if you will, that was very worried about losing the country.
[00:06:26]  Turns out my worries were justified.
[00:06:28]  Now, I think one of the things you were speaking at a conference or something, and a guy who I know passed away recently, but was a real mentor and friend of you, basically kind of grabbed you as a young man and said, you just need to not go to college and you need to start an organization.
[00:06:48]  Tell us about that because it was a pretty brave thing to do.
[00:06:51]  It was brave on his part because then he told it to my parents, which one of the greatest accomplishments that I've been able to make is now finally I saw this news report.
[00:07:04]  I said, you know what, I've made an impact for the betterment of America.
[00:07:06]  College enrollment is down 15% in the last year.
[00:07:09]  It really, it's a really, really great thing.
[00:07:12]  Some of you aren't applauding because that's still, it still hasn't yet sunk in.
[00:07:18]  It will.
[00:07:18]  Just wait.
[00:07:20]  My hypothesis is correct.
[00:07:21]  Colleges are destroying America.
[00:07:23]  I stand by that.
[00:07:24]  So, yeah, at the time, look, I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago.
[00:07:29]  It's very much heretical where I grew up to even say you are not going to a four-year college.
[00:07:36]  There's so much social pressure for that.
[00:07:38]  You know, you get the question of what is wrong with you.
[00:07:41]  You get the question if you are considered to be a good student, which I was, or you're involved in athletics.
[00:07:46]  They say, hey, where are you going to college?
[00:07:48]  Not why are you going to college?
[00:07:50]  It's built in, right?
[00:07:51]  It's the next step.
[00:07:53]  And I spoke at an event.
[00:07:54]  This was right before my high school graduation.
[00:07:56]  I was going to go to West Point.
[00:07:57]  I didn't get in.
[00:07:58]  Ended up being the best thing that never happened to me.
[00:08:01]  God knew what he was doing.
[00:08:02]  And a man who's now passed away who became my mentor, Bill Montgomery, came up to me and said, Don't go to college.
[00:08:09]  I said, What are you talking about?
[00:08:10]  Like, who are you?
[00:08:11]  And he said, You have a gift.
[00:08:12]  You're able to speak.
[00:08:13]  You can organize people.
[00:08:14]  The country needs you a lot more than a college needs you.
[00:08:16]  And I believe it was the Holy Spirit speaking through him.
[00:08:20]  And he was somewhat prophetic.
[00:08:22]  And he said, You could start a youth organization that could really make a serious impact on the country.
[00:08:27]  He believed in me more than anybody else.
[00:08:29]  And that's a really good lesson for a lot of you.
[00:08:31]  You know, I get asked a lot from people in their 70s or 80s, Charlie, what can I do?
[00:08:36]  And I always ask, How many young people are you mentoring?
[00:08:39]  And if the answer is less than five, then I don't want to hear it.
[00:08:42]  Why are you not actively mentoring a teenager right now?
[00:08:45]  Because somebody who was 72 actively mentored me, and that's why Turning Point USA exists today.
[00:08:50]  That's a beautiful story, isn't it?
[00:08:51]  So please give back, not just with your money, but with your time.
[00:08:54]  Actively mentor young people.
[00:08:55]  They need mentors.
[00:08:56]  Oh my goodness, is there a mentor need in our country right now?
[00:08:59]  And then we were off to the races, right?
[00:09:01]  So I took a gap year.
[00:09:02]  It's been a gap decade.
[00:09:05]  And not a lot of people believed in us, you know, for years.
[00:09:09]  I mean, I've been to Houston many times throughout the years.
[00:09:11]  I know the city, and I've seen how the city has changed.
[00:09:13]  My goodness, has your beautiful home been taken over by leftists?
[00:09:17]  We could talk about that too.
[00:09:18]  It's not good.
[00:09:21]  When I see billboards that say go meatless in downtown Houston, I say these people should not be welcome around here.
[00:09:28]  I mean, vegan in Harris County.
[00:09:30]  What is this all about?
[00:09:31]  This is Texas.
[00:09:32]  Anyway, that's a separate issue.
[00:09:34]  But not the Houston I remember, that's for sure.
[00:09:37]  But I'll tell you this, though, Kelly: is that it is the Lord.
[00:09:39]  He's been so good to us.
[00:09:41]  We've tried to remain faithful.
[00:09:43]  And now we are the number one organization of our kind in the country on high school campuses, college campuses.
[00:09:48]  We have a whole outreach program with churches.
[00:09:51]  We have Turning Point Academy.
[00:09:52]  We have one of the top podcasts out there.
[00:09:54]  We do stuff on radio.
[00:09:55]  We do stuff on television.
[00:09:56]  And our mission remains the same, which is good people have to do more to save Western civilization.
[00:10:02]  That these bad people are accelerating at such a rapid pace that if the good people remain idle, they're going to destroy this beautiful country that we love.
[00:10:17]  I want to talk about Turning Point a little bit because when you started, it was like going to campuses, having these, putting up a table, having a discussion.
[00:10:26]  And it started to try to bring truth into these college campuses.
[00:10:30]  But that has grown dramatically, right?
[00:10:33]  So I don't know.
[00:10:34]  Last time I remember, you had like a thousand chapters and high schools and colleges, but you've gone even to Turning Point Faith and podcast and radio.
[00:10:45]  And so tell us about all the aspects, kind of where you started and where you are now.
[00:10:51]  Yeah, I mean, it started with, you know, my parents' garage, which is actually great because big companies tend to start garages, Apple, HP, Google.
[00:11:01]  I guess we're no different, right?
[00:11:02]  So we started in a garage with a vision and a dream, no money, no connections, no idea what I was doing.
[00:11:09]  I had a work ethic and a mentor.
[00:11:11]  And I happened to live in a free society.
[00:11:13]  And I wanted it really bad.
[00:11:15]  I wanted to grow something.
[00:11:16]  I felt that I saw this vision that could manifest.
[00:11:20]  And now, you know, fast forward 11 years later, we have more high school chapters than we have college chapters.
[00:11:25]  We have well over 1,650 chapters total at Turning Point USA.
[00:11:30]  Today, we hosted a TPUSA event in Austin, Texas, with thousands of people on the steps of the state capitol.
[00:11:40]  We have some of the most amazing success stories of people that have come through our ranks.
[00:11:44]  Candace Owens got her start with us.
[00:11:46]  Brandon Tatum got his start with us.
[00:11:48]  Ana Paulina Luna, Isabel Brown, William Witt, some of the biggest voices in the entire conservative movement started as people that we elevated and put on college campuses.
[00:11:57]  We have reached billions of people through our online content, podcasts, radio.
[00:12:02]  Our original budget was $17,000.
[00:12:04]  Praise the Lord, will surpass $65 million this year with well over 250,000 grassroots donors, many of you who donate to us.
[00:12:13]  So thank you, those of you that donate.
[00:12:15]  And we just keep growing.
[00:12:16]  And I believe the Lord is rewarding us, and many of you continue to invest in us because we operate with urgency.
[00:12:24]  We are a gritty, hustle-oriented organization.
[00:12:27]  I could tell you there's a lot of talkers in the conservative movement.
[00:12:30]  You know, I've traveled over the last decade 2,950 days.
[00:12:34]  I'm a million-mile club in every major airline.
[00:12:37]  You know, I've done well over 5,000 hours of speeches, 3,000 hours of radio, 1,500 hours of television.
[00:12:43]  I don't say that to brag, but I don't sit still well.
[00:12:46]  I told you, I'm not a good spectator.
[00:12:48]  We are trying to do our part, right?
[00:12:50]  And Turning Point has now, thanks to God's grace, become a machine, a media machine, an activist machine, an educational machine.
[00:12:58]  And you know this because the left is doing everything they possibly can to destroy us.
[00:13:03]  We are the most attacked organization in America.
[00:13:06]  We brought Riley Gaines to a college campus a couple weeks ago at San Francisco State University.
[00:13:10]  You should applaud Riley Gaines.
[00:13:12]  And they kidnapped her, right?
[00:13:16]  They assaulted her and kidnapped her in a room for three hours because she wanted to defend female sports, the death threats we get on a daily basis.
[00:13:24]  We had a speaker, Ian Hayworth, at one of our turning point chapters where the activists outside were tearing up Bibles and throwing death threats.
[00:13:31]  My mostly peaceful visit at University of California, Davis, when I was speaking on campus and they came with weapons and broke into windows and Antifa and over 200 police officers had to be mobilized.
[00:13:41]  I'm not saying this stuff to have you make me feel bad for me.
[00:13:43]  We're used to the death threats.
[00:13:44]  We're used to the life alterations.
[00:13:46]  In fact, I love it because if you are not currently under attack, I don't think you're doing anything meaningful against the enemy.
[00:13:54]  Right now is the time for action, everybody.
[00:13:57]  It is generations of sacrifice that we're the recipients of this beautiful republic.
[00:14:02]  And we're in a place right now where it's easy to get comfortable.
[00:14:05]  We're a sizable organization.
[00:14:07]  We have a ton of influence.
[00:14:09]  We have an amazing donor network.
[00:14:11]  We've been super blessed.
[00:14:12]  We're doing the opposite.
[00:14:13]  We're leaning in.
[00:14:14]  We're growing.
[00:14:15]  We want more high school chapters, more college chapters, more homeschool parents, more minds changed by media, more church partners.
[00:14:23]  We could talk into the church thing, which is a huge thing we're doing.
[00:14:26]  But the biggest thing I'm trying to do more than anything else is I'm trying to get more people to independently act with courage and boldness against this totalitarianism that is setting into our country.
[00:14:38]  And it's more widespread than ever before.
[00:14:41]  It is a virus that has taken over our nation.
[00:14:44]  And we need to activate the immune system, which I believe is truth and justice.
[00:14:49]  The number one thing people can do is be a truth teller.
[00:14:52]  It is the greatest way to fight evil.
[00:14:55]  The enemy hates the truth.
[00:14:57]  Satan hates the truth.
[00:14:59]  Truth tellers need to rise in record numbers.
[00:15:06]  Yeah, I know we've talked about this before, but that book, Live Not By Lies, I think stated it really well, because Alexander Soltzenitson stated it really well.
[00:15:14]  The way you stop this totalitarism, the Marxism, is enough people, not a majority, just enough people have to stand and speak the truth.
[00:15:25]  And Riley Gaines is a great example of that.
[00:15:28]  I do think, I mean, I would love to hear your comment.
[00:15:30]  This congressional attempt to protect women and women's sports in Title IX that just passed the U.S. House with no Democrat votes, I think that's a horrible political position for them.
[00:15:43]  That's going to, they're going to rue the day of standing on that position because I don't think America is with them on that.
[00:15:49]  I hope you're right, Kelly.
[00:15:50]  I'm not so, I don't know the country I live in anymore.
[00:15:52]  I know the conservative movement really well because I hang out with you guys all the time.
[00:15:55]  I know the Christian world.
[00:15:56]  The Christian world is divided into cowards and courageous people.
[00:15:59]  So I know the Christian world really well.
[00:16:01]  And most Christians are cowards.
[00:16:03]  We could talk about that later.
[00:16:05]  Most pastards are cowards, but that's a separate issue.
[00:16:08]  But a lot of courageous Christians, and that's why you guys are here tonight.
[00:16:11]  I don't know the country I live in.
[00:16:12]  Let me prove it to you.
[00:16:13]  Colorado just passed a law with huge support, and there'll be no backlash saying that if you're 12 years old and you want to medically mutilate yourself, they will pay for your travel to come to Colorado and they'll help subsidize without parental consent.
[00:16:27]  California's on the same thing.
[00:16:28]  Minnesota's looking at it.
[00:16:29]  Oregon, Washington, Massachusetts.
[00:16:31]  So I'm not so sure.
[00:16:32]  I hope there's a backlash, right?
[00:16:34]  Women's sports is going to be dead in five years.
[00:16:37]  It just is.
[00:16:38]  But again, I have very strong opinions on this topic, and you can all feel free to disagree.
[00:16:42]  But at a fundamental level, you're going to know I'm right if you're a Christian.
[00:16:45]  This is deeper than just female sports, okay?
[00:16:47]  Female sports is a way to build popular support against the trans tyranny.
[00:16:52]  This is a social contagion from the pit of hell that has taken over more than just female sports, okay?
[00:17:00]  If we think it ends and begins with female sports, we're wrong.
[00:17:04]  That's a great issue for us to focus on.
[00:17:06]  We should protect female sports.
[00:17:08]  However, what is at the root of it?
[00:17:10]  At the root of it is that I get to change nature because I don't like the state that I'm in.
[00:17:17]  At the root of it is a war on God's creation and on God itself.
[00:17:22]  It is more than female sports.
[00:17:24]  Look, the female sport issue is very simple: it's mentally deranged men filled with hormone blockers and testosterone therapy that are allowed to compete against women, and we somehow should play into their imaginations and their delusions.
[00:17:37]  That hopefully we can do.
[00:17:38]  We can't even do that, Kelly.
[00:17:41]  We can't.
[00:17:41]  We can't even have we have NCAA sports where men are allowed to imperialize women's sports, and we call that progress.
[00:17:47]  But at the more fundamental level, it is a moral decay and an opportunity for us to say, Let me tell you what's really wrong here.
[00:17:54]  What's really wrong is the social contagion of transgenderism, which is that I get to decide for my own nature, that there is no hierarchy, that I get to change my biology.
[00:18:06]  To think of how insane this is, right?
[00:18:09]  It is as if my own will triumphs the will of God.
[00:18:14]  And that is a Western social contagion that's been around a lot longer than the trans craze, everybody.
[00:18:20]  It's all about me.
[00:18:21]  It's not about duty to the divine or a transcendent order or understanding your place in the cosmos.
[00:18:27]  And so, but then the most important part of the trans issue, which is again deeper than female sports, is the tyrannical nature of it.
[00:18:35]  The TNL GBT stands for tyranny.
[00:18:39]  Nobody in this room, not a single Christian I have ever met, wants to police other people's imaginations.
[00:18:46]  Right?
[00:18:47]  We don't care what you imagine or you think of in your own bedroom.
[00:18:51]  All the trans thing is imagination gone wrong.
[00:18:53]  That's what it is, right?
[00:18:54]  It's your delusion against your own reality, your own biological reality, and somehow we have to go along with your imagination.
[00:19:02]  That's the issue.
[00:19:04]  Is that if it was all about their own imagination, this issue would have been over at the beginning.
[00:19:08]  No, no, no, no.
[00:19:09]  They want you to first tolerate it.
[00:19:12]  Then they want you to accept it.
[00:19:15]  Then they want you to celebrate it.
[00:19:17]  And then they want you to participate in it.
[00:19:20]  It is not about respecting trans people or trans people with imagination.
[00:19:25]  No, no, no.
[00:19:26]  They want you to change your worldview and take a knee to the postmodern God.
[00:19:31]  They will not stop until every single church has a trans flag.
[00:19:36]  And even then, they won't stop.
[00:19:37]  These people have evangelistic zeal to them.

=== Tolerating the Trans Agenda (09:59) ===

[00:19:41]  This is an evil movement, everybody, and it's coming for our kids.
[00:19:45]  It's coming for all of society.
[00:19:46]  And you know why it's coming?
[00:19:48]  Because decent people are afraid of the alphabet mafia, and you should be.
[00:19:52]  They are vicious.
[00:19:54]  They are violent.
[00:19:55]  They kill Christians.
[00:19:56]  They just did in Tennessee.
[00:19:57]  And what does Joe Biden do?
[00:19:59]  He says, after a trans person kills six Christians, he says, trans people shape the soul of our nation.
[00:20:05]  You might not like this fight.
[00:20:06]  This fight might make you uncomfortable.
[00:20:08]  You might yearn for the days of live and let live.
[00:20:10]  But I got a tough reality for you.
[00:20:12]  There will be one winner, either reality or the delusional side.
[00:20:17]  I'm on team reality.
[00:20:18]  It's time to win.
[00:20:28]  Talk about turning point faith.
[00:20:31]  No, no.
[00:20:33]  Talk about turning point faith because I don't think most people know what you're doing there.
[00:20:37]  I know I'm speaking to a bunch of pastors coming up.
[00:20:40]  Tell them what you're doing there.
[00:20:41]  Look, and if I'm sort of intense.
[00:20:44]  Sorry.
[00:20:47]  We're losing our country.
[00:20:48]  I don't really have time to win over the middle.
[00:20:50]  I'm trying to activate the people who care so we could do something.
[00:20:54]  All right.
[00:20:54]  So I know some of you are like, well, you know, boy, that speaker, he was really intense.
[00:20:58]  Yeah, we are intense, okay?
[00:21:00]  They're kidnapping our speakers on college campuses.
[00:21:02]  Excuse the tone, right?
[00:21:05]  Yes.
[00:21:06]  So TPUSA Faith.
[00:21:08]  This is where I really get animated, right?
[00:21:10]  The hope of the world, the hope of America is with Americans, Christians, and pastors.
[00:21:14]  I want to ask you a question.
[00:21:16]  What percentage of pastors do you think gave a sermon celebrating the reversal of Roe versus Wade?
[00:21:22]  Well, it's not zero, but it's less than 5%.
[00:21:25]  I got asked the other day by a wokey pastor.
[00:21:28]  I call them the wokeys.
[00:21:30]  There's the wokies, there's the weak, and then there's the courageous, right?
[00:21:32]  We'll go through all three of them.
[00:21:34]  And he said, Charlie, when do you think there will be a massive move of God in America?
[00:21:39]  I said, oh, there was.
[00:21:41]  But you were too afraid to mention it at your church.
[00:21:44]  I said, I've been in this for 11 years.
[00:21:48]  I was told by experts and legal people that Roe versus Wade would never be repealed.
[00:21:53]  I was told by people in the church that it's untouchable.
[00:21:56]  Don't even think about it.
[00:21:56]  Don't even whisper about it.
[00:21:58]  Don't even pray about it.
[00:21:59]  Roe versus Wade was repealed last summer.
[00:22:02]  God came as a miracle from the heavens.
[00:22:07]  And 95% of his pastors won't even say thank you.
[00:22:13]  I bet if I went around the room, I could ask, well, I have a great pastor, really.
[00:22:16]  Did he even mention it as saying that this is a divine act from the heavens as an intervention from God to save the unborn?
[00:22:21]  No, he wouldn't.
[00:22:22]  Pastors won't be bothered by that.
[00:22:26]  That'll impact tithes and offerings, man.
[00:22:28]  It screws up the business model.
[00:22:30]  You know, I had a, you reminded me of something.
[00:22:34]  I had a great pastor years ago.
[00:22:36]  Gene Guest, some people know who Gene is, started the whole fellowship Bible church movement all over the world.
[00:22:42]  Great guy.
[00:22:44]  Actually, he started because he was teaching seminary at Dows Theological Seminary.
[00:22:48]  He was teaching ecclesiology, which is the church.
[00:22:51]  And it was during a time of the 70s, 60s, 70s.
[00:22:54]  And they began questioning everything.
[00:22:56]  You know, had the long hair and all that.
[00:22:58]  And he just sort of threw out the Bible and started re-looking at what does the Bible say?
[00:23:02]  And it ended up for him starting a different kind of church.
[00:23:06]  And I was in his congregation once.
[00:23:10]  When he got up, he had seen, he had read a book called The Moral Mandate to Vote about abortion and about voting and what is a Christian responsibility.
[00:23:19]  And he had seen the pictures of his grandkids on the scans from the sonograms.
[00:23:26]  And he talked about this in the sermon.
[00:23:30]  And he said to the congregation, he said, He said, if you are voting and you're not voting on this issue, you're in sin.
[00:23:42]  And then he stopped and he said, I know some of you are going to say, I shouldn't talk about this.
[00:23:47]  He said, I'm your pastor.
[00:23:49]  It's my responsibility to talk.
[00:23:51]  And the place immediately erupted in a standing ovation because people were so hungry to see a pastor willing to stand up and speak to these issues of the day from the Bible.
[00:24:04]  Yeah, and so let me just first brag on the courageous.
[00:24:07]  Okay, there are a lot of great pastors out there.
[00:24:09]  Second Baptist here is a great church here in Houston.
[00:24:11]  Okay, they deserve credit.
[00:24:12]  They're a great church.
[00:24:13]  So I don't mean to dwell on the negative, but they are a minority.
[00:24:16]  That is a minority church in America.
[00:24:19]  The courageous, Jack Hibbs, for example, Pastor Juergen.
[00:24:22]  There are some amazing, amazing pastors, and they must be mentioned.
[00:24:26]  They must be celebrated.
[00:24:27]  They must be platformed.
[00:24:28]  But they are not a majority.
[00:24:29]  The majority are cowards.
[00:24:31]  Cowards can be nice people.
[00:24:32]  Cowards can be sweet people.
[00:24:34]  Cowards can be great at counseling.
[00:24:36]  Cowards can be great at getting a parking car ministry outside of their big church.
[00:24:39]  Cowards can have a great coffee bar.
[00:24:41]  But cowards need to step up in a wartime for the gospel and do something because you can stop being a coward.
[00:24:48]  How do you know that you have a coward leading your church?
[00:24:50]  The Roe versus Wade test is another test.
[00:24:52]  If your pastor has not mentioned the last 30 days that there is a trans ideology that is targeting Christians with violent, murderous behavior, you have a coward as a pastor.
[00:25:01]  That's okay.
[00:25:01]  So what do you do?
[00:25:02]  Go lovingly confront your coward as a pastor in a room and say, why are you not mentioning this?
[00:25:07]  Here's what they'll say.
[00:25:08]  Not my role.
[00:25:09]  That is wrong.
[00:25:10]  Jeremiah 29, 7.
[00:25:11]  Demand the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.
[00:25:16]  You are commanded in the gospel time and time again to care for the least of these, the children.
[00:25:21]  Children are being mutilated with unbelievably aggressive pharmacological agents, Lupron and other things.
[00:25:28]  It is the church's role to stand up for those that cannot stand up for themselves.
[00:25:31]  Not to mention, they might say, well, we don't do politics around here.
[00:25:34]  Well, then how do you teach Esther, Mordecai, Nehemiah, Jeremiah, and Daniel, who are all counselors to the king, who cared about government for God's purpose?
[00:25:41]  You just kind of gloss over that?
[00:25:43]  How do you talk about how Jesus and the founding fathers had one thing in common?
[00:25:47]  They cited the book of Deuteronomy more than any other book.
[00:25:50]  Both Jesus and the Founding Fathers found a lot of wisdom in Deuteronomy.
[00:25:53]  You know what Deuteronomy talks about more than anything else?
[00:25:55]  Politics.
[00:25:56]  There's a reason why most pastors don't talk about Deuteronomy because it gets people very uncomfortable because their left-wing politics shatter as soon as you read about civil and moral government, separation of powers, consent to the governed, and individual rights, due process, presumption of innocence, not favoring a man in the court of law, whether his wealth comes into a factor.
[00:26:13]  Pastors need to be teaching this verse by verse, but that's the problem.
[00:26:18]  Bad theology leads to bad politics, is that pastors far too often are afraid of Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy, the books of Moses, the Pentateuch.
[00:26:27]  Instead, they just focus on their own myopic version of the gospel.
[00:26:31]  I love the gospel.
[00:26:32]  But Jesus said, create disciples, not converts of all nations.
[00:26:36]  Disciples go deep.
[00:26:38]  Converts is getting people to raise their hand in an altar call at Easter.
[00:26:41]  You've got to go deep to create people ready to fight the spiritual darkness right now.
[00:26:44]  And you, everybody in this room, can find a cowardly pastor and get them into a courageous posture overnight.
[00:26:50]  But then there's the complicit, okay?
[00:26:52]  These pastors really need to be called out.
[00:26:54]  They're the ones with the gay flags outside.
[00:26:57]  There's one complicit pastor I won't mention because we talked about him.
[00:27:00]  But, you know, that's like the Judas Smith, the Levi Lusko, the cool kid pastors, right?
[00:27:05]  The skinny gene TED Talk type pastors, right?
[00:27:08]  You guys know what I'm talking about.
[00:27:10]  And they should resign from the ministry, okay?
[00:27:12]  They're talking about BLM.
[00:27:13]  They talk about, you know, all this sort of stuff against the gospel.
[00:27:18]  So here's why I'm so passionate about this.
[00:27:20]  And I've been a Christian since fifth grade.
[00:27:23]  I've never left the faith.
[00:27:24]  I've never had one of those stories where I left and I came back.
[00:27:27]  But I had an assumption about Christianity that was totally wrong.
[00:27:30]  Okay, giving my life to the Lord in fifth grade.
[00:27:32]  I was always told my politics and my faith must remain separate and they do not come together.
[00:27:36]  That was wrong, right?
[00:27:38]  But you can look it up.
[00:27:39]  On my podcast, I made the worst prediction in the history of American podcasting three years ago.
[00:27:44]  It was such a bad prediction.
[00:27:46]  I did this whole podcast and I said, oh, the lockdowns are here.
[00:27:50]  Let me make a prediction.
[00:27:51]  The American churches are not going to shut down or lock down because the American church loves liberty.
[00:27:57]  And boy, was I wrong.
[00:27:59]  A couple pastors here and there love liberty.
[00:28:01]  99% of American churches stayed closed and locked down, citing Romans 13.
[00:28:06]  Romans 13, obey all the leaders in authority, can't question them.
[00:28:09]  Okay, smart Alec, according to the American Constitution, who's in charge?
[00:28:14]  You are in charge.
[00:28:15]  The people are the sovereign in Romans 13.
[00:28:18]  We, the people of the United States, not we, the mayor, not we, the governor, not we, the congressperson.
[00:28:24]  We the people.
[00:28:25]  So when our rights get violated, it is a violation of the government violating Romans 13, and you never should have shut the church even for a day.
[00:28:35]  And I looked around and I saw the American church shuddered and afraid, masked and vaxed, live streaming, and then all of a sudden they're live streaming.
[00:28:41]  They say, well, it's just the same as having church in person.
[00:28:45]  Having a live stream is like watching a fireplace on a YouTube channel.
[00:28:50]  You get all the appearances, but there's no warmth.
[00:28:54]  And I'll close with: I'm sorry to riff too long, but then the next chapter, the next interval, that was bad enough.
[00:28:59]  Then I saw on my live streams, I had to be taught by these pastors, one after the other, during Floyd of Palooza, when we decided to destroy our country with a bitter lie from hell that were systemically racist, where they said their true original sin is white skin color.
[00:29:13]  I said, oh my goodness, this is not an American church that I thought we had.
[00:29:17]  I thought we had an American church that at least knew the Constitution, knew our rights, didn't you know, resisted CRT and loved liberty.
[00:29:24]  And I looked around and I saw very, very few.
[00:29:26]  So I got motivated to change it.
[00:29:28]  TPUSA Faith's mission is very simple.
[00:29:30]  We are here to excommunicate the mind virus of wokeism out of the American church as quickly as possible.

=== Fighting Tech Censorship (05:16) ===

[00:29:40]  One of the things, I mean, gosh, I think one of the last times we were having this kind of discussion, it was before a lot of the stuff in social media.
[00:29:50]  You were pretty high up there.
[00:29:53]  And I ask you, are you ready for the censorship that's coming?
[00:29:58]  Because you knew it was coming.
[00:30:00]  Yes, that was when we were in Colorado.
[00:30:03]  And it's come since then.
[00:30:06]  So talk about how you get canceled all the time for the most ridiculous things and kind of how you're managing that personally.
[00:30:16]  I'd love to see that.
[00:30:17]  And then also what you think the answer is to the problem.
[00:30:22]  So every day I'm fighting the censors, right?
[00:30:24]  Every single day.
[00:30:25]  Right now, I'm banned from YouTube for one week because I said that trans people are suffering under a mental delusion.
[00:30:32]  You're not allowed to say that.
[00:30:34]  Even though you look up the definition of delusion, it's somebody who is believing something that has no rooting in reality.
[00:30:41]  And so then I asked Google, which is like talking to a wall, right?
[00:30:44]  You might as well talk to ChatGPT, right?
[00:30:47]  Which is effectively what you're doing.
[00:30:49]  And they say it's hate speech to say that trans people have a mental delusion.
[00:30:54]  So I'm banned right now from YouTube for a week.
[00:30:56]  So here's, let me actually give you an optimistic take on this.
[00:31:00]  There's a ton of tech censorship.
[00:31:01]  We're actually in a much better place than we were a year ago when it comes to speech online.
[00:31:06]  We're still in a crummy place, but two big developments have happened.
[00:31:10]  Rumble has gone now to the place of viability, which is a great thing.
[00:31:14]  Praise God.
[00:31:14]  If you do not know what Rumble is, it's a YouTube competitor.
[00:31:17]  It's publicly traded.
[00:31:18]  They have a $3 billion market cap now.
[00:31:20]  They have users that are now nipping at YouTube's heels.
[00:31:23]  They have Russell Brand.
[00:31:25]  They have some of the biggest names that like legit mainstream, really good names.
[00:31:30]  It's Dana White is doing a show on there.
[00:31:31]  It's rumble.com.
[00:31:33]  Kelly, last time we sat down, there was no competitor for YouTube.
[00:31:36]  And that's a real thing.
[00:31:37]  Rumble is going to be around.
[00:31:38]  It's a real place to speak.
[00:31:40]  You guys should all download the app, rumble.com, and they're getting their act together.
[00:31:44]  The second thing is Elon Musk buying Twitter is a major development.
[00:31:50]  And that's a good thing.
[00:31:52]  It's a great thing.
[00:31:53]  I mean, I was blacklisted from Twitter, and the Twitter file showed that.
[00:31:58]  But I was blacklisted largely because of my government.
[00:32:01]  And this is where we're looking at some very serious lawsuits.
[00:32:04]  I don't want to spend too much time on this, but I'm kind of patient zero for some of this because we had a very successful Twitter.
[00:32:10]  We were very viral.
[00:32:12]  And then I lost access to my Twitter account, which, like, boo-hoo, who cares?
[00:32:16]  Well, I actually lost access to my Twitter account during a very critical period of time, which was during early voting in 2020, right?
[00:32:22]  So I lost access to my Twitter between like October 14th and like October 24th because I tweeted about the Hunter Biden laptop story, right?
[00:32:31]  So then they used the politico story, which was now we all know Tony Blinken orchestrated this fabrication of it, right?
[00:32:37]  Saying 50 former officials say that this was Russian disinformation.
[00:32:41]  They did not allow me to access my Twitter for 10 days when I could have influenced millions of voters potentially, direct election interference from our government.
[00:32:51]  And so that's the censorship that I actually am more interested in talking about.
[00:32:54]  Me getting banned from YouTube, it's just going to keep on happening.
[00:32:57]  They're going to find new stupid rules to find a way to shut me up.
[00:32:59]  The one that is, again, I'm looking for a lawfare strategy.
[00:33:03]  First Liberty is so amazing.
[00:33:04]  We need a First Liberty for like every issue.
[00:33:06]  We need like a First Liberty for tech censorship.
[00:33:08]  We need like a first, you know, we need a group of lawyers that are committed to winning because I haven't found that yet in the tech censorship because we now have documents that Elon Musk has made public that the FBI was involved in censoring voices like mine.
[00:33:24]  That's a whole different threshold of censorship, right?
[00:33:27]  Technically private companies can shut me up.
[00:33:29]  YouTube doing hate speech.
[00:33:30]  What is blatantly illegal is the federal government of the United States walking into Twitter to say you need to shut up Charlie Kirk.
[00:33:39]  That is not just a violation of the First Amendment.
[00:33:42]  I mean, this is a Stalinistic abuse of power in the middle of an election to try to get a desired outcome.
[00:33:48]  And so if we can find the right legal team, we're going to sue and sue very aggressively because DHS, the Department of Homeland Security, the FBI, had standing meetings with Twitter every single week with Yoel Roth, the head of Twitter Safety, which used the ability to then silence and shut me up.
[00:34:06]  And so that's where my focus on censorship is.
[00:34:09]  But can I say one more thing about censorship that I think is important?
[00:34:12]  All of you can do something to fix the number one form of censorship in America.
[00:34:16]  Joseph Stalin wrote in his private journals, he said, eventually I will not have to censor anybody because I'll get people to shut themselves up.
[00:34:23]  The number one form of censorship in America is you shutting up you.
[00:34:28]  My encouragement for you tonight is stop policing your own speech because you're afraid you're going to offend somebody's sensitivities.
[00:34:36]  The number one form of censorship in America is self-censorship.
[00:34:45]  Yeah, I mean, that's the problem is they prey on people who are good people to try to encourage them not to speak the truth because the truth is not allowed right now.

=== Defending Western Distinctions (09:07) ===

[00:34:56]  It's not okay.
[00:34:58]  Well, it's not okay to allow lies, right?
[00:35:01]  I mean, Bonhoeffer, two of my favorite quotes from Bonhoeffer are, you know, silence in the face of evil is sin.
[00:35:08]  The other one is that a Christian doesn't just bind the wounds of a person crushed under the wheel of injustice.
[00:35:16]  A Christian sticks a spoke in the wheel.
[00:35:19]  And we've got to do our part.
[00:35:20]  And it includes in our own neighborhoods and everything, just speaking the truth.
[00:35:24]  We can do it with love, but we've got to speak the truth.
[00:35:27]  I want to ask you something because a lot of people haven't paid attention to this, but I think it's a big deal.
[00:35:31]  You've started to interview some guys, James, an atheist, an atheist, but that's been really, I think, something very important to you and what you found.
[00:35:42]  I mean, kind of an expert on Marxism.
[00:35:45]  And talk a little bit about what you've learned and what you've tried to sort of educate your audience on that I think a lot of people aren't aware of.
[00:35:53]  Yeah, I've got him now to be an agnostic.
[00:35:56]  So I'm making progress, everybody.
[00:36:00]  You know, I got to tell you, sometimes I get the wackiest emails from people.
[00:36:05]  And we get a lot of emails.
[00:36:06]  I have a human laboratory, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:36:09]  Some of you have probably emailed me before.
[00:36:10]  But somebody said, Charlie, I don't think you as a Christian should be interviewing people that are not Christians.
[00:36:17]  I think that's so unbelievably silly, right?
[00:36:19]  We would not have received help from King Cyrus, right, when we were in the desert.
[00:36:23]  I mean, give me a break.
[00:36:25]  So that's just so silly.
[00:36:27]  But so I'm trying to learn from all people.
[00:36:31]  There's a guy named James Lindsay.
[00:36:33]  If you don't know James Lindsay, he's amazing.
[00:36:34]  He's an agnostic.
[00:36:35]  And he's the foremost expert on diversity, equity, inclusion, and race Marxism.
[00:36:40]  And he is incredibly talented.
[00:36:42]  And he knows the Bible better than most pastors do, just so we're clear.
[00:36:45]  I mean, he knows the Bible really, really well.
[00:36:48]  And we're getting him there, right?
[00:36:50]  Baby steps.
[00:36:50]  He used to be a leader of the new atheist movement, and he's denounced them now.
[00:36:53]  So I've gotten him to at least acknowledge something, that America is a worse country the more secular it has become.
[00:37:02]  That's a big deal for a former atheist to acknowledge, okay?
[00:37:06]  So there's a process here.
[00:37:07]  But what I, we kind of do a road show.
[00:37:09]  I bring him on the road and it drives a lot of pastors nuts.
[00:37:12]  Why do you have an atheist on stage with you?
[00:37:14]  He's agnostic.
[00:37:15]  Remember that.
[00:37:17]  Because it's such a silly thing.
[00:37:20]  If you've ever had brain surgery or get your wisdom teeth removed or got on an airplane, do you make sure that the pilot shares your theology before you fly from Houston to Chicago?
[00:37:31]  You know, sometimes you find experts in a certain field that can help you towards something, accomplish your mission, because they're experts in the field.
[00:37:38]  And so James Lindsay happens to be an expert in diversity, equity, and inclusion on this.
[00:37:42]  But my focus on this is I believe the first 11 books of Genesis are the answers to so many of the problems we're dealing with.
[00:37:48]  I think most pastors in America refuse or don't even know how to teach the first 11 books of Genesis.
[00:37:54]  The first 11 books of Genesis were written as a direct refutation of pagan polytheistic river civilization.
[00:38:00]  We are seeing the remergence of the old gods.
[00:38:02]  What's the name of that book you mentioned by Return of the Gods.
[00:38:04]  Yeah, and I've even read it, but it seems like we're talking about the same thing on parallel tracks.
[00:38:09]  I believe there are five fake religions that are dominating in America right now because look, as Christianity becomes less popular, something's going to fill its place.
[00:38:17]  This idea of no religion is a lie.
[00:38:19]  You're just going to get other synthetic religions that fill it.
[00:38:22]  So the five fake religions are the religion of tolerance, which is that I must be tolerant of all things regardless of how evil they are.
[00:38:28]  Earth worship, otherwise known as environmentalists, right?
[00:38:31]  The religion of anti-racism, the religion of scientism, and finally the religion of power.
[00:38:36]  Those are the five main religions that replace Christianity.
[00:38:39]  And most Christians don't even think about that because we think, oh, people are going to be not religious.
[00:38:42]  That's not true.
[00:38:43]  They're going to find a worldview from somewhere.
[00:38:46]  And those are the five big places they replace it with.
[00:38:48]  But Genesis 1 through 11 is the whole ballgame, in my opinion, when it comes to politics, government.
[00:38:54]  And this is why I wish pastors would talk about it more.
[00:38:56]  It tells you why we're here, why we were created, what is a human being, whether or not we have eternal purposes to this, and what happens when power gets too concentrated.
[00:39:06]  That's just one of many lessons, right?
[00:39:08]  Genesis 1, 26, 127, it says that we are image-bearers of our Creator.
[00:39:13]  That is a game-changer verse.
[00:39:15]  If that verse is true, that means that you as a human being are not an accident of Darwinian evolution.
[00:39:20]  It means you are not a clump of cells.
[00:39:22]  It means you were made with intentionality and purpose and with love and with meaning and with purpose.
[00:39:29]  That means that everything the college academics are teaching our kids is a bitter lie.
[00:39:33]  They teach the kids the opposite, that you are an accident.
[00:39:37]  It also means that there's an objective order and objective truth.
[00:39:40]  If you were to say, Charlie, what is one of the most dangerous things taught on college campuses?
[00:39:45]  Moral subjectivism is one of the most dangerous things, that I have my truth and you have your truth.
[00:39:51]  And so then Genesis 11, which is what happens when people try to congregate authority, you know, concentrate authority too much, which of course is the city of Babel.
[00:40:01]  And God does not look kindly on people trying to rule here on this earth without checks and balances or decentralized power structures.
[00:40:08]  And so I'm going on the road talking about a lot about Genesis 1 through 11.
[00:40:12]  I think we need to pray over these scriptures.
[00:40:13]  I think there's so much, it's so instructive there, and it's unique because that really is the eternal canon of Genesis.
[00:40:20]  Because in Genesis 12, it's like, oh, here's Abram, and then kind of history begins.
[00:40:24]  I believe Genesis 1 through 11 is given to us as an instructive tool for such a time as this to be able to defeat the diabolical return of pagan religion in America.
[00:40:36]  Genesis 1 through 11, I think, is one of the best ways to do that.
[00:40:44]  I'd encourage people to listen to some of those podcasts, interviews, dialogues you've had.
[00:40:49]  I mean, one of the things that I think was great was this whole idea that God always has distinction.
[00:40:58]  That's correct.
[00:40:58]  And there's a good and an evil.
[00:41:01]  There's a male and a female.
[00:41:02]  There's always, and what you're watching today is the attempt, and this is what Marxism does, to destroy distinctives.
[00:41:10]  And people don't realize what's going on there.
[00:41:12]  So order, civilization, relies on distinctions.
[00:41:17]  When you have chaos, it is the blurring or the elimination of distinctions.
[00:41:21]  So Genesis 1 through 11 lays out, it's like seven or eight distinctions, but let me just kind of tell you, the distinction between life and death, the distinction between God and man, the distinction between man and nature, the distinction between the profane and the holy, the distinction between male and female, right?
[00:41:38]  The distinction between adult and child.
[00:41:40]  These distinctions are under assault every single day by the arsonist left.
[00:41:47]  They need to get rid of the distinctions.
[00:41:50]  Distinctions actually keep us free.
[00:41:52]  And the most important distinction, the distinction between good and evil.
[00:41:56]  And the first dialogue on good and evil, where it's so interesting, where it's so obvious that God gave us some form of a moral compass, but it's not sufficient, is Cain and Abel, where God comes from the heaven and he asks Cain, hey, where's your brother?
[00:42:09]  And it's one of the great lines of the Bible.
[00:42:11]  And he says, what am I, my brother's keeper?
[00:42:15]  And it's such an interesting answer, isn't it?
[00:42:17]  Because if he didn't think there was something somewhat wrong with murder, he would have said, well, God, I murdered him.
[00:42:23]  Why?
[00:42:24]  What's so wrong with that?
[00:42:25]  Instead of it's a quasi-defensive answer, right?
[00:42:27]  Which is like, what am I, my brother's keeper?
[00:42:29]  Like, I mean, come on.
[00:42:31]  And God, as this dialogue back and forth, ends up obviously admonishing him and his future bloodlines.
[00:42:36]  And you see this, this, the Noahic covenant in Genesis 7 and 8, which is so clear that the elimination of a transcendent good leads you to moral anarchy.
[00:42:51]  Everything the left is trying to do is trying to eliminate distinctions.
[00:42:54]  There is no difference than man and woman.
[00:42:56]  There is no difference than good and evil.
[00:42:58]  There is no difference between profane and holy.
[00:43:00]  There is no difference between God and man.
[00:43:02]  For example, everyone here tonight believes that there is a God and you are not him.
[00:43:08]  The left does not believe either of those things.
[00:43:12]  They believe that there is no God.
[00:43:13]  If there was a God, I would be that person.
[00:43:15]  And so when you look at distinctions and the way God ordered the universe, which is, again, laid out so beautifully in Genesis 1 through 11, you look at the serpent, Satan, Satan, in the garden.
[00:43:29]  His goal is to confuse the distinctions.
[00:43:33]  Because God gave specific orders, and what does Satan try to do?
[00:43:36]  Question them.
[00:43:37]  Did God really tell you that?
[00:43:38]  God said it's no fun.
[00:43:39]  Come on, don't you want to be enlightened?
[00:43:40]  Don't you want to eat from the tree of good and even the knowledge of truth, good and evil?
[00:43:46]  And it is up to us to be relentlessly defensive of the distinctions.
[00:43:53]  When you destroy the distinctions that make Western society, you're going to get something very diabolical and very evil.
[00:43:59]  I think it's a simple way to understand the existence that we're in right now or the situation that we're in.

=== Building a Resilient Nation (09:21) ===

[00:44:04]  All right, I want to end with one sort of double question.
[00:44:07]  Number one, you married a woman who's much more attractive than you.
[00:44:14]  Thank you.
[00:44:15]  Who is very, very bright and very successful on her own.
[00:44:21]  And you now have a little girl.
[00:44:23]  Yes.
[00:44:23]  So number one, I want to know how that changed or has changed so far your perspective at all.
[00:44:30]  And then number two, I want to know how do you see the future of the country, religious freedom, freedoms in general?
[00:44:38]  What do you see coming?
[00:44:40]  So I just want to make sure I reiterate this before I close.
[00:44:43]  And Kelly hasn't even told me to say any of this.
[00:44:45]  You guys have to support First Celebrity.
[00:44:46]  It's one of the most important nonprofits in America.
[00:44:48]  I say that as someone who's dedicated my 11 years of doing this.
[00:44:52]  It's so incredibly important.
[00:44:53]  So please support them.
[00:44:55]  So from being a father, I mean, it's a total game changer.
[00:45:00]  If you think I was radical before, and now I'm very radical.
[00:45:04]  No, but I mean, it's a motivating factor, right?
[00:45:07]  Because I mean, I'm currently trying to create, or at least try to have some semblance of a country I grew up in.
[00:45:16]  Here I am, 29 years old, doing like the boomer thing.
[00:45:19]  If only she would know the country I grew up in.
[00:45:22]  It's like this has been a radical cultural revolution the last five years, hasn't it?
[00:45:26]  It's happened very quickly with hyper-ferocity and aggression.
[00:45:32]  And so, I mean, it gives me a reason to fight, but it also humbles me, but it makes me realize exactly why the bad guys want people to stop having kids.
[00:45:46]  Because it anchors you to reality, to God, and to nature.
[00:45:52]  As birth rates have plummeted in America, so many other things have gone awry.
[00:45:57]  When you have a child, it's a lot harder to be a BLM activist.
[00:46:01]  It just is.
[00:46:02]  You don't have as much time.
[00:46:06]  You're less likely to burn down a Wendy's if you have a child.
[00:46:12]  And in some way, in some way, like these early 30s-somethings that studied North African lesbian poetry from the University of Houston, and they have $200,000 in debt, and they're not married and have no kids for multiple reasons, and they're really angry.
[00:46:26]  And I can kind of see why they're angry for many reasons, but they haven't yet quite found out a purpose.
[00:46:34]  And we've told, oh my goodness, the disservice we've done to our young people.
[00:46:38]  I hear it all the time.
[00:46:38]  Charlie, I was told all throughout college, don't get married, just pursue your career.
[00:46:42]  What an awful, awful thing.
[00:46:44]  And for those of you involved in church life, you need to celebrate getting married and having kids early.
[00:46:49]  It's a beautiful thing.
[00:46:50]  And just so you know, kids are not getting that message, okay?
[00:46:54]  The vast majority of young people I talk to say hear nothing but negatives when it comes to family creation.
[00:46:59]  Terry Schilling is here somewhere who does a great job talking about the need of having kids.
[00:47:02]  He has like 22 kids or something.
[00:47:03]  He's around here for like something.
[00:47:06]  He could fill a whole zip code.
[00:47:09]  But yes, for me, it helps fill the why even more.
[00:47:13]  And I mean, those of you that are parents, I'm not telling you anything you don't know, right?
[00:47:17]  So, then where I think the country is going.
[00:47:20]  Look, I've been pretty intense tonight.
[00:47:22]  I don't apologize for it because I'm being honest.
[00:47:25]  I also want you to say there's so much good happening in America.
[00:47:28]  We just had our campus tour at Turning Point USA.
[00:47:31]  We could not find rooms big enough on college campuses to fill all the students that wanted to attend our events on these campuses.
[00:47:39]  It's a beautiful thing.
[00:47:45]  And these are big, big venues, right?
[00:47:49]  So if I were to say this, and I'm going to be 100% honest like I always am, the other side wants it more than us right now.
[00:47:55]  They're giving more money.
[00:47:56]  They're more active.
[00:47:58]  Especially that trans world.
[00:48:01]  I have not seen activist energy this intense, this ferocious, of anything I've done in 11 years.
[00:48:07]  It makes the BLM stuff look like child's play.
[00:48:11]  And they're going to run over all of you because they just think they have total moral impunity.
[00:48:16]  At the same time, yes, they control the CIA, they control Goldman Sachs, they control the corporations, they have Soros, they have Lorene Powell jobs, they totally screwed up our elections, they control all this.
[00:48:26]  But all of that to be said, we have two things they don't have.
[00:48:30]  We have the truth, and we do outnumber them.
[00:48:34]  It's just our numbers aren't really doing much, right?
[00:48:36]  And you might say, well, Charlie, what can I do then, right?
[00:48:39]  What can I possibly do?
[00:48:40]  I could just read your mind because I get that question all the time.
[00:48:42]  Someone's probably going to stand up and say, Charlie, I've done everything that's been asked of me.
[00:48:47]  I watched Tucker Carlson.
[00:48:50]  I bought the pillow.
[00:48:52]  I have done everything that has been asked of me.
[00:48:56]  Promo code Kirk, by the way, at mypillow.com, just so we're clear.
[00:49:01]  And those Giza dream sheets are spectacular.
[00:49:06]  Look, I'm not here to give you individual marching orders, but I will say, everybody can do more, right?
[00:49:13]  You can mentor a young person.
[00:49:15]  You can give more resources.
[00:49:16]  You can give the first liberty.
[00:49:18]  You can run for a school board.
[00:49:19]  You could hold your school board members accountable or do the three basic things I tell every Christian to do.
[00:49:25]  Are you praying for your nation audibly on a daily basis, saying, Lord, help save this country?
[00:49:30]  I believe prayer is so important.
[00:49:32]  Get back to the spiritual disciplines.
[00:49:34]  Are you fasting on a weekly basis for your nation for at least 24 hours?
[00:49:38]  And finally, are you learning about your nation or your nation's roots for at least an hour a day?
[00:49:43]  If you're doing those three things, you're going to see the Holy Spirit will come to you and show you ways that you can act, things that you can do.
[00:49:50]  Get back to the spiritual disciplines.
[00:49:53]  And so I'm neither a pessimist or an optimist.
[00:49:55]  If I were to tell you, you know, I'm a pessimist.
[00:49:57]  It's all over.
[00:49:58]  The country is done.
[00:49:59]  You'd go back home and you'd say, you know what?
[00:50:00]  What's the point in fighting?
[00:50:01]  Charlie's a pessimist.
[00:50:02]  It's all over.
[00:50:03]  It's all negative.
[00:50:04]  If I was an optimist, you'd go home and say, hey, I don't need to fight.
[00:50:07]  Charlie gave me a lot of hopium, and it feels really good to be alive, and we're going to win.
[00:50:12]  And look, I think all of us, most of us here, are Christians here tonight.
[00:50:16]  I want to just make sure that we're very clear.
[00:50:18]  If you believe Jesus is coming next Thursday, you still have a moral obligation to fight.
[00:50:24]  Do not use your eschatology as an excuse for inaction.
[00:50:28]  I hear it all the time.
[00:50:29]  Charlie, what's the point?
[00:50:30]  We're all going to get raptured up soon.
[00:50:32]  You might be right.
[00:50:33]  It might be hundreds of years.
[00:50:34]  It might be a thousand years away.
[00:50:35]  You still must act.
[00:50:36]  So here's what I think.
[00:50:38]  Here's where I think we are, Kelly.
[00:50:40]  I think the die has yet to be cast on this particular moment.
[00:50:44]  It could go either way.
[00:50:45]  It could go the way where there's a revival and an awakening and a grit and an endurance and a stamina of people that refuse to break, that get tougher the more that we get thrown at, and we build in numbers and we homeschool our kids and we build beautiful things and we build businesses.
[00:51:01]  And all of a sudden, we look back at 22 and 23 as times where we pushed through, or it could go the other way, where we weaken in resolve and we fight amongst ourselves and we get cynical and apathetic and nihilistic, and the bad guys steamroll us.
[00:51:14]  Both are conceivable.
[00:51:16]  I am not a speaker, and you hear these speakers all the time that say that victory is inevitable.
[00:51:20]  Yes, ultimate, eternal victory is inevitable.
[00:51:23]  Jesus will come back on his throne.
[00:51:24]  How this country goes, I have no idea.
[00:51:27]  But I could say this: I have dedicated my 11 years, and I will dedicate as long as I have breath in these lungs every single day to fight for liberty and for freedom against these bad guys.
[00:51:37]  My, I implore you to try to do the same because look, here's the one thing I know, and I fight these people every single day, and they're not good people.
[00:51:45]  They want us dead, but they fear us.
[00:51:48]  I know this.
[00:51:50]  They fear us more than anything else.
[00:51:52]  They fear that if we actually get our act together, if we have an attitude where we're going to stay in the game of stamina, of endurance, of a long-term vision, and they can't invoke our surrender, then we're going to win.
[00:52:05]  Can I finish on a story, Kelly?
[00:52:07]  Is that okay?
[00:52:07]  Yeah.
[00:52:08]  You tell me.
[00:52:09]  Go ahead.
[00:52:10]  I'm on your time.
[00:52:11]  Yeah.
[00:52:11]  Okay.
[00:52:12]  I'm doing a pastor's close, so I got another 45 minutes.
[00:52:15]  I'm kidding.
[00:52:15]  You're passing the plate?
[00:52:16]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:52:17]  Well, you should give the first liberty.
[00:52:19]  I'll close with this.
[00:52:20]  Winston Churchill was the greatest man to live in the 20th century.
[00:52:24]  He had courage, he had grit, he had resolve, and he was a man for the times.
[00:52:28]  Winston Churchill was the only man smiling the day after Pearl Harbor.
[00:52:32]  He walked into his war cabinet meeting of a group of a dozen men, the thing of whiskey and a cigar at 7 a.m.
[00:52:38]  He had to keep up.
[00:52:39]  And he proclaimed to his war cabinet, We have won the war, gents.
[00:52:46]  The whole place went silent.
[00:52:48]  They looked at him.
[00:52:49]  I said, How much whiskey have you had, sir?
[00:52:51]  And he said it again, we have won the war.
[00:52:54]  And then a brave soul decided to challenge him.
[00:52:56]  So have you lost your bloody mind?
[00:52:59]  The Royal Air Force is losing 5,000 people a day.
[00:53:03]  They've just bombed London in another blitz.
[00:53:06]  The opposition party is calling for your resignation on a daily basis.
[00:53:10]  They very well might plan an amphibious ground assault on Brighton.
[00:53:15]  We barely got our troops out of Dunkirk.
[00:53:17]  The Nazis are increasing their industrial capacity to come closer and closer towards our lone aisle.

=== When Americans Awaken (00:51) ===

[00:53:25]  Our nation's resolve is at the brinkering tilt.
[00:53:29]  What do you mean we have won the war?
[00:53:31]  And the place went silent, and Winston Churchill took a puff of his cigar and a sip of his whiskey.
[00:53:35]  He said, Ah, I've got to know the Americans.
[00:53:38]  They're a tricky bunch, often late to the game, but never wrong.
[00:53:42]  When they awaken, they're an unstoppable beast.
[00:53:45]  And let me tell you right now, at Pearl Harbor, they've awoken the sleeping giant, and this war is over.
[00:53:51]  It's just a matter of when it is declared.
[00:53:53]  I tell you, when the Americans awaken, we will win.
[00:53:56]  Ladies and gentlemen, we wake up, we beat the bad guys.
[00:53:59]  Thank you so much.
[00:53:59]  I appreciate it.
[00:54:03]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
[00:54:05]  Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:54:08]  Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
[00:54:13]  For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.