The Charlie Kirk Show - Biden's Bumbling Diplomacy + The Death of BuzzFeed News with Nigel Farage and Rep. Dan Bishop
Aired: 2023-04-21
Duration: 35:16


=== Trusting America After Kabul (11:11) ===

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[00:00:02]  We have Nigel Farage and Congressman Dan Bishop talking about the debt ceiling and our currency.
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[00:01:11]  Welcome back, everybody.
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[00:01:14]  Joining us now is the great Nigel Farage, of course, the father of Brexit and host of Farage on GB News.
[00:01:21]  Nigel, thank you so much for making time.
[00:01:23]  I want to get right into the potential catastrophe of the Western world losing the dollar as the world reserve currency status.
[00:01:33]  Why would this be cataclysmic?
[00:01:36]  And what could we possibly do about it?
[00:01:38]  Let's start with that.
[00:01:39]  What are the implications?
[00:01:40]  You have a great financial background.
[00:01:42]  What would be implications of us losing the dollar as the world reserve currency?
[00:01:47]  Well, the dollar has been the world reserve currency for a very, very long time.
[00:01:50]  And virtually every commodity is priced in dollars, whether it's oil, you know, whether it's coal, you know, everything that's traded around the world, the dollar is the currency through which those transactions are conducted.
[00:02:05]  And it's because of that that America has managed to keep its place as the leader of the free world.
[00:02:12]  Money matters.
[00:02:14]  Also, because it's been the dollar, it's given stability because America has been, doesn't feel like it sometimes, but compared to many others, has been a stable country.
[00:02:25]  Now, 20 years ago, the Euro was launched and the ambition of the European Union was to replace the dollar with the Euro as a reserve currency.
[00:02:33]  That was a Walter Mitte dream.
[00:02:35]  It never came to anything.
[00:02:37]  What is happening right now is something very, very different.
[00:02:40]  The Chinese are on the most astonishing international diplomatic mission.
[00:02:46]  It's barely being noticed by Western world media, but they are busy.
[00:02:51]  They're busy with President Lula in Brazil.
[00:02:54]  They've even managed in the last month to get the Saudis and Iranians together around a table.
[00:03:01]  And what China's basically saying to these countries is, look, we're going to help you with money, with all sorts of things.
[00:03:10]  And yes, we want to buy your coffee from Brazil.
[00:03:12]  And, you know, yes, we want to buy oil from the Middle East.
[00:03:16]  We want to do all these things, but we want to do it priced in one.
[00:03:21]  And it looks like, it looks like they're achieving a pretty high degree of success.
[00:03:28]  So if China becomes effectively a direct global rival to the dollar, this puts them a long way to becoming the world's global superpower.
[00:03:39]  Now, when the next world's global superpower is a communist regime that has no respect for democracy, no respect for what we'd regard as the rule of law, has territorial expansionist aims, which we can see very clearly in Taiwan, but don't think it stopped there.
[00:03:57]  You can see this is a very, very dangerous situation.
[00:04:01]  And yet, whilst this is going on, the leader of the free world, Joe Biden, is in Ireland pretending because his great-great-grandfather came from there, that somehow he's Irish to amuse 40 million Americans of Irish descent.
[00:04:19]  And this is the point that on the world stage, America's been making it very easy for China to plug that gap.
[00:04:28]  There's been an absolutely pitiful lack of leadership, a focus on all of the wrong things.
[00:04:36]  And, you know, I hate to say this to you, Charlie, but the Western world is in decline and will decline further as America is in global decline.
[00:04:48]  Yeah.
[00:04:48]  And so, Nigel, there's a lot there to unpack.
[00:04:51]  The ramifications are significant.
[00:04:53]  I really want to dive into, though, an element of this.
[00:04:57]  Macron and G that are creating this new cozy relationship.
[00:05:02]  You know, if you talk to the neoliberals that run the American regime, one of the arguments they'll make is that, look, we need to do this war in Ukraine.
[00:05:10]  We need to keep on pumping money because we have to keep our European partners close to our interests.
[00:05:15]  It's a bad argument, but on the surface, it seems as if it makes sense.
[00:05:18]  However, that's not even true.
[00:05:19]  We're now seeing France.
[00:05:21]  No.
[00:05:22]  We're now seeing France, which is supposed to be one of our closest allies, that is supposed to be in alignment with all these neoliberal ideas, cozy up to the CCP.
[00:05:30]  Tell us about it.
[00:05:32]  I think historically, the American link with some European countries has been a very, very important bulwark for democracy against both fascism and communism.
[00:05:45]  But it's never been true, of course, of all European countries.
[00:05:49]  Macron's visit to Beijing was totally astonishing.
[00:05:55]  Rather than saying, do not, do not for one moment consider territorial ambitions with Taiwan, what Macron basically said is, look, you know what?
[00:06:06]  You invade Taiwan, we're effectively going to do nothing.
[00:06:11]  And that casts massive doubt on French membership of NATO, quite frankly.
[00:06:16]  I mean, because if we don't have any commonality of goals, then frankly, what's the future of it?
[00:06:23]  So you've got a fracturing going on at two levels.
[00:06:25]  One, the military structure that's been there since the late 1940s of NATO now has one of its major players taking a very different policy position to that that we've taken and you've taken over China and Taiwan.
[00:06:39]  So that's going on.
[00:06:41]  And at the same time, you've got America's role as a global leader cast into serious doubt.
[00:06:47]  Not just, I would emphasize, because of Chinese diplomatic activity, important though that is, but also, also, you know, after Afghanistan, after the fall of Kabul, after giving the Taliban $85 billion worth of top-class American military equipment, there is also a question about can we trust America?
[00:07:11]  So whichever way you look at this, we are in the worst global situation with the biggest series of threats that we've had for 80 years.
[00:07:20]  And this is why when you don't have an American president, things start to fall apart.
[00:07:28]  It should be one phone call to Macron, which I thought was so powerful, the way Trump handled Macron and he was retelling that story with Tucker Carlson.
[00:07:35]  Look, Macron's a very weak person, okay?
[00:07:38]  He's trying to act in the self-interest of France.
[00:07:40]  One phone call to Macron.
[00:07:41]  Knock it off, pal.
[00:07:43]  You're done.
[00:07:44]  You can say, hey, you keep on going with China, 200% tariff on champagne.
[00:07:49]  You don't pick up the phone to China, you're done.
[00:07:51]  We don't have that, though.
[00:07:52]  No, instead, it is survival for your own sovereignty.
[00:07:56]  Not even that.
[00:07:57]  We don't do that for our own country, but the Western world is deciding to commit suicide.
[00:08:04]  You can't totally blame Macron for trying to do what's best for his own country.
[00:08:08]  The point being, though, is that they don't get to call the shots.
[00:08:10]  Okay.
[00:08:11]  That's not the way this works.
[00:08:12]  Is that the Western world?
[00:08:14]  No, it should work.
[00:08:15]  Yes.
[00:08:15]  Tell us how it should work, Nigel.
[00:08:17]  Please.
[00:08:17]  Yeah.
[00:08:17]  Yeah.
[00:08:18]  I mean, I've said, Charlie, on this show to you several times before that if America falls, the whole of Western civilization falls.
[00:08:27]  Without strong American leadership, we are in major trouble.
[00:08:32]  And that's a role that, you know, the UK played 100 years ago.
[00:08:34]  But let's be realistic.
[00:08:36]  It is at every level, economically, militarily.
[00:08:39]  It is America.
[00:08:41]  And the one thing I think about this, the biggest surprise of Trump's presidency was the way that he conducted foreign policy.
[00:08:49]  You know, there was somebody who was prepared to talk really tough without ever, ever wanting to use military equipment.
[00:08:58]  He wasn't one for launching new wars as previous American presidents had been, but he was tough enough and strong enough.
[00:09:06]  And, you know, some of those phone calls that he made to world leaders have been truly astonishing stuff.
[00:09:11]  And there's no way, no way that Putin would have gone into the Ukraine if Donald Trump had still been in the White House, because the message would have been very, very clear.
[00:09:21]  You do that and you will pay a price for it.
[00:09:23]  And of course, never make a threat in life to anybody, whether it's Mr. Putin or a four-year-old kid.
[00:09:29]  Never, ever make a threat that you're not prepared to carry out.
[00:09:34]  But we've got Biden, a man who is totally confused.
[00:09:38]  Much of the Washington elite continues with its neocon ideology.
[00:09:43]  But even with that, I'm not sure they're very consistent.
[00:09:47]  I'm not sure they really know quite what they want to do.
[00:09:50]  And into this vacuum, you've got Putin having launched this offensive, but China effectively using the smokescreen of Ukraine to build its presence around the world.
[00:10:02]  And you know what?
[00:10:02]  China's made more advances in the last three months than it's made in the last hundred years.
[00:10:08]  That is how quickly and speedily this is happening.
[00:10:12]  And I'm just astonished that so few Western commentators can see what's going on here.
[00:10:17]  The world has fallen apart.
[00:10:18]  30 seconds, Nigel.
[00:10:19]  How does the Ukraine situation end in your guess?
[00:10:24]  Stalemate.
[00:10:26]  I would guess this will go on for many, many years.
[00:10:28]  I don't think taking back Crimea or Ukraine is even an option, but I think there should be a negotiated settlement around that and around Donbass.
[00:10:39]  And what I don't hear coming out of Washington is any desire for peace whatsoever.
[00:10:44]  Maybe Dwight Eisenhower was right.
[00:10:47]  Maybe it is the military industrial complex that's really running the show.
[00:10:51]  That's right.
[00:10:51]  Nigel, thank you so much.
[00:10:52]  Hope to see you soon.
[00:10:53]  Check out his show on GB News, and we thank you for your great commentary.
[00:10:57]  Thank you so much.
[00:10:58]  Thanks, Charlie.
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[00:12:14]  Okay, today's a great day.
[00:12:18]  All right, I'm going to get some emails, so let me qualify this.
[00:12:22]  Should you delight in something evil collapsing?
[00:12:27]  Because there's some debate.
[00:12:28]  People say, Charlie, you should not take joy in the downfall of your enemies.
[00:12:31]  I'm sorry if it's, I'm going to do it because this is an awful institution.
[00:12:35]  BuzzFeed, that pile of steaming trash that has done a ton of damage to our country, BuzzFeed News, to be more specific, is shutting down.
[00:12:46]  BuzzFeed News is an awful institution, and they were best known for their listicles, for how they would say, nine reasons how you know you actually might be trans.
[00:13:02]  Number four will make you so surprised.
[00:13:07]  And so we commemorated the listical way of doing quote-unquote news, BuzzFeed style.
[00:13:14]  Now, you might say, oh, what is BuzzFeed?
[00:13:16]  And they'll say, no, BuzzFeed was actively involved in trying to take down Donald Trump.
[00:13:23]  BuzzFeed News was actively involved in some of the biggest stories.
[00:13:26]  They were the dossier people.
[00:13:28]  Remember that?
[00:13:29]  According to BuzzFeed News, well, they are, they're bankrupt.
[00:13:34]  A lot of media companies are going under.
[00:13:36]  ESPN is laying off staff.
[00:13:37]  NPR is laying off staff.
[00:13:39]  Thank goodness.
[00:13:40]  Is the wokening turning into a big layoff campaign?
[00:13:46]  I am wondering, though, at what point will these quote-unquote journalists, which are really listical writers, are they going to get mad at the liberal companies that are not able to sustain a business model?
[00:13:57]  I wonder why.
[00:13:58]  Well, you know, conservative media is growing.
[00:14:01]  Daily Wire is hiring.
[00:14:02]  Turning Point USA is hiring.
[00:14:03]  We're hiring on this program.
[00:14:06]  And yet the left-wingers, they can't keep their staff together.
[00:14:09]  I wonder why.
[00:14:11]  Seven reasons why BuzzFeed News is shutting down.
[00:14:14]  You won't believe number three.
[00:14:16]  Number one, turns out crummy listicles don't play in the long run.
[00:14:19]  Who knew?
[00:14:20]  Number two, on the issues like LGBTQ insanity and anti-racism, BuzzFeed said, quote, there are not two sides, and they wouldn't even pretend to offer objective reporting.
[00:14:31]  Number three, according to FAIR, a left-wing media watchdog, BuzzFeed's coverage of Barack Obama was so fawning that it was, quote, creepy and sycophantic.
[00:14:43]  Number four, they published the discredited Clinton-financed P-Tape dossier as news.
[00:14:52]  Remember that?
[00:14:53]  Total fabricated.
[00:14:55]  Number five, they published a hit piece claiming President Trump ordered Michael Cohen to lie to Congress, which Robert Mueller had to break protocol to immediately call out as false.
[00:15:06]  You remember that?
[00:15:07]  Where Mueller came out and he said, no, no, no, BuzzFeed is off the mark here.
[00:15:11]  Number six, they had to fire their top tech reporter after it turned out he'd been plagiarizing people for his entire career.
[00:15:18]  Number seven, nobody wanted to read them and good riddance.
[00:15:21]  It's not even that they're trimming staff.
[00:15:22]  They're shutting down the entire BuzzFeed News division.
[00:15:28]  And by the way, there's something here that is, I think, important, which is, you know, I read the New York Times here, and they're letting off staff.
[00:15:36]  They're still operational, though.
[00:15:38]  For the time being, we'll see.
[00:15:41]  Is that it's so repetitive.
[00:15:43]  They're not saying anything interesting or entertaining or new or against the grain or contrarian.

=== The Credit Card Limit Analogy (12:02) ===

[00:15:51]  It's because, and this is a good rule, political correctness stifles creativity.
[00:15:57]  Political correctness, aka wokeism, you have to then play within the guardrails.
[00:16:03]  And there's only so many listicles that you could write, 11 ways to get over your breast removal surgery.
[00:16:10]  There's only so many listicles that you can write about the six ways I found out that my boyfriend isn't into me.
[00:16:21]  I mean, let me read some of these headlines.
[00:16:23]  How privileged are you?
[00:16:24]  Checklist for privilege.
[00:16:26]  20 reasons why white people can't be trusted.
[00:16:28]  37 things white people need to stop running, ruining in 2018.
[00:16:32]  White people, read this before you text your black friends.
[00:16:35]  I mean, I'm not even exaggerating when I say this stuff.
[00:16:39]  The only good comedians left and the most successful comedians in history, they fight against political correctness.
[00:16:46]  They push the boundaries.
[00:16:48]  Comedy is largely tragedy plus time.
[00:16:51]  Dave Chappelle, Chris Rock, Bill Burr.
[00:16:55]  If you just play by the political, correct, wokey rules, you're kind of boring.
[00:17:00]  And eventually, you're not able to make money.
[00:17:02]  So I delight publicly and enthusiastically at the death of BuzzFeed News.
[00:17:12]  Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.
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[00:18:16]  Joining us now is Congressman Dan Bishop from North Carolina.
[00:18:20]  Congressman Bishop, welcome to the program.
[00:18:22]  Thanks, Charlie.
[00:18:23]  Good to be with you again.
[00:18:24]  Congressman Bishop, for those of us, including myself who are not totally caught up to speed on the debt ceiling, just walk us.
[00:18:30]  We have some time.
[00:18:30]  So walk us what is the debt ceiling and what is the debate surrounding it?
[00:18:34]  And then we'll get further into the details.
[00:18:37]  So by law, for many, many years, there's been Congress can spend more money in appropriations bills, but to the extent the federal government's entire borrowings need to increase because there's no more room.
[00:18:53]  There's a debt ceiling.
[00:18:54]  And Congress, and the United States government cannot incur more indebtedness unless Congress lifts that debt ceiling.
[00:19:02]  So conservatives, as we've seen, debt.
[00:19:06]  Okay, I think we lost Congressman.
[00:19:07]  We're going to try to reconnect there.
[00:19:11]  And so effectively, you have to raise the debt ceiling by law, by statute.
[00:19:16]  But sometimes the budget bills are disconnected from the debt ceiling increase.
[00:19:20]  Congressman, do we have you back?
[00:19:22]  Yeah, I'm sorry about that, Charlie.
[00:19:23]  I don't know what happened.
[00:19:24]  But please continue.
[00:19:26]  Yeah, so we're hitting one of those points in time.
[00:19:30]  And of course, what Joe Biden wants to do with the Democrats having spent multiple trillions of dollars without any Republican votes is we're up against the new limit and they want us to pass what they call a clean debt ceiling increase.
[00:19:44]  But we just say, oh, okay, you can spend another $2 or $3 trillion more in debt or incur that additional debt in order to feed the spending frenzy in Washington.
[00:19:55]  Well, new sheriffs in town, this majority of 218, particularly given the work we did in January to lay down some principles that we were going to adhere to before we elected the Speaker, we're not going to pass any clean debt ceilings in the House.
[00:20:15]  And so what we've been working on here is to get a proposal passed on the floor of the House.
[00:20:23]  And the leadership calls it the Limit, Save, and Grow Act.
[00:20:27]  And that has come together.
[00:20:29]  We've been working on it insistently.
[00:20:32]  It is a very complicated process of getting 218 members to be prepared to support it.
[00:20:39]  And we wanted it.
[00:20:40]  We insisted that it be robust.
[00:20:42]  And so I'm very pleased.
[00:20:45]  Speaker McCarthy's, I think, handled this extremely well.
[00:20:48]  It's been rolled out now into the public, and we anticipate we'll pass it in the House next week.
[00:20:55]  So let's go to Cut 87.
[00:20:57]  I think that's a good way to keep the momentum going.
[00:20:59]  Play Cut 87.
[00:21:01]  Biden is skipping town to deliver a speech in Maryland rather than sitting down to address the debt ceiling.
[00:21:08]  Senator Schumer, he's just missing an action.
[00:21:10]  Just last month, he's approved March at Maine's Maple Syrup Month.
[00:21:15]  Talk about taking on big issues.
[00:21:18]  Here's this really dangerous.
[00:21:20]  Mega Republican Congress are threatening to default on the national debt unless I agree to all these wacko notions.
[00:21:26]  Speaker McCarthy is engaging in dangerous economic hostage taking.
[00:21:30]  Why would the Speaker, like no other speaker has done this before, threaten default?
[00:21:36]  Now, Congressman, I know you.
[00:21:38]  I know Speaker McCarthy.
[00:21:40]  You guys want what's best for the country.
[00:21:42]  This is insane fear-mongering from a lying and discredited regime.
[00:21:46]  So what is the ask, right?
[00:21:48]  So I want to be very clear.
[00:21:49]  I enthusiastically support the spirit of what you're doing, and I'm 100% behind it because we control the House.
[00:21:57]  We're just going to give a clean debt.
[00:21:58]  You know, you guys need it.
[00:21:59]  The country needs it.
[00:22:00]  But also, we're spending trillions of dollars we don't have.
[00:22:02]  We're getting crushed by inflation.
[00:22:04]  Our border is wide open.
[00:22:05]  Let's get some concessions.
[00:22:07]  So what does that look like?
[00:22:09]  And then kind of build out the caucus then.
[00:22:12]  What are the different elements of the caucus and where do they stand on this?
[00:22:16]  Well, exactly, Charlie.
[00:22:17]  Let me say the analogy that the speakers used, and it makes all the sense in the world, is when you, if you have a family and they keep hitting their credit card limit, you don't just go and say we're going to get the limit extended.
[00:22:27]  We sort of got to look at the family budget, figure out what we can afford.
[00:22:31]  And so we're not spending the family recklessly into debt that'll destroy the family.
[00:22:36]  Not dissimilar here.
[00:22:38]  And so here's what we do.
[00:22:41]  We say in exchange for willingness to increase the debt ceiling into the first quarter of next year, which would be about a $1.5 trillion additional clearance of indebtedness to be incurred in that period of time.
[00:22:56]  We're going to do three things.
[00:22:57]  We're going to limit federal spending now by rescinding some spending that otherwise would occur that doesn't need to.
[00:23:04]  We've got unspent COVID funds that have come out of the American.
[00:23:08]  I totally agree.
[00:23:09]  Yes, there's hundreds of billions of dollars just sitting there.
[00:23:11]  Pull them back.
[00:23:13]  I wish there were hundreds.
[00:23:14]  They say the unobligated portions are only about 50 to 60 billion, but nonetheless, it's available.
[00:23:19]  And if we let this sit around much longer, that'll get the Democrats will make sure that it gets obligated so it can't be recovered.
[00:23:25]  But that's a piece.
[00:23:26]  We've got the provision to say we're going to disallow, we're going to rescind the Department of Education regulations that purport to forgive about $550 billion worth of student loans.
[00:23:39]  We're going to pull that back.
[00:23:40]  Now, that's being litigated too.
[00:23:41]  So, you could win it that way, but that's another big, big change.
[00:23:46]  We're going to, they passed the what they called it, the Inflation Reduction Act, but it was really a big green new deal.
[00:23:53]  And they have these massive tax credits for green energy projects and so forth.
[00:24:00]  Goldman Sachs recently said that number is not going to turn out to be $231 billion.
[00:24:04]  It's going to be probably $1.2 trillion over the next decade.
[00:24:07]  So, we're going to repeal that.
[00:24:09]  We're going to propose the repeal of those to get that under control.
[00:24:13]  So, and something that's very important, I think, to every American that has any common sense is we're going to require the, you know, we've already passed this on the floor of the House, but it's going to be required to be a bicameral deal signed by the president as part of this deal.
[00:24:28]  We're going to get rid of that funding for 87,000 new IRS agents who are going to otherwise go out and eat out the subject.
[00:24:34]  That's exactly right.
[00:24:35]  Yes, yes, yes.
[00:24:37]  So, that's that's the first part.
[00:24:39]  That's that's the uh say, well, that's save.
[00:24:43]  You got a limit, and I should have said this the other direction of the thing because it's the one that always is.
[00:24:48]  And I've done it.
[00:24:49]  We've this is we negotiated this back in January.
[00:24:51]  It is the sort of key piece.
[00:24:53]  We're going to limit the spending for the next federal spending year, that is say once we get to October, to the 2022 discretionary spending level.
[00:25:02]  That'll have a couple of effects.
[00:25:05]  It will allow the defense-focused folks to probably have a further increase in defense spending, but it will require the rest of discretionary spending probably to fall to pre-COVID levels back to 2019.
[00:25:21]  So, in other words, it's turning around.
[00:25:22]  We're going to reduce that's about $135 billion annual savings, and there will be a 1% annual increase cap over the next decade.
[00:25:31]  That will save about $1.3 trillion over the decade.
[00:25:36]  Although, make sure people understand we're very reticent to bank on savings that will occur over a full decade.
[00:25:43]  I'm kidding.
[00:25:43]  I think the immediate.
[00:25:44]  Well, I mean, I just want to, yeah, I want sorry to interrupt, but I just want everyone to understand that the fight, and it's a noble fight, and it's necessary, and I'm behind you 100%.
[00:25:51]  It's just to get us back to pre-COVID levels, and that was still a trillion-dollar deficit, right?
[00:25:56]  It's astonishing that we can't go further than that, but it's a testament to how frozen up Washington is in that status quo I described when we talked back in January that people have the hardest of times getting progress made.
[00:26:10]  But this begins to turn.
[00:26:12]  And here's something very important, Charlie.
[00:26:14]  You heard the Biden's words, these catastrophizing, I think is a great word, great notion about what he does, that we're holding somebody hostage or we're doing some crazy ideas.
[00:26:28]  These are very, they're really modest.
[00:26:30]  I mean, they're important, robust in the context of what Congress has been able to do before.
[00:26:36]  We are turning the ship of state, but isn't it time to do it?
[00:26:40]  And we're doing it in a way that's quite that's uh that can be accomplished readily.
[00:26:45]  And my goodness, if the federal government wasn't big enough before it had the massive expansion into the COVID era, I don't know who who thinks you know who reasonably believes otherwise.
[00:26:55]  So, but those are the two parts so far.
[00:26:57]  So, we got those limits on future spending, the immediate savings from the items that we specified.
[00:27:05]  And then there are another couple of provisions then to grow the economy.
[00:27:09]  The biggest one is called the Reigns Act.
[00:27:12]  And that is an acronym, like so many things in Washington.
[00:27:16]  But it provides that if whenever the bureaucracy is going to propose a major regulation, one that would have more than $100 million impact in the economy or certain other triggers, Congress has to approve it before it can go into effect.
[00:27:31]  You know, Marco Ru, I mean, One of the senators is, I'm trying to remember his name, which one it is who says this, but he says that he would swap a debt ceiling increase for that alone.
[00:27:43]  If you could get the Reigns Act passed, you would fundamentally change the way new burdensome regulations are adopted in Washington.
[00:27:50]  And so we're going to ask for that to be done as part of this package.

=== Fighting Disinformation Efforts (07:22) ===

[00:27:53]  So about 30 seconds remaining, Congressman, do you believe Kevin McCarthy is doing a good job in this negotiation up against Biden and Chuck Schumer?
[00:28:04]  I've been very pleased with Kevin's work.
[00:28:06]  We've had conversations across the conference that we began in, well, in January and before January as a result during the speaker's contest and talking to each other across the factions within the Republican Party in a way that we've never done before.
[00:28:21]  That's continued.
[00:28:23]  Speaker McCarthy has both promoted those and participated in those, and he's done a fantastic job of explaining to the world, including up to the New York Stock Exchange in his speech last week, why this sort of change is essential and why it must happen right now.
[00:28:39]  So we're going to start a dialogue by passing this with 218 votes.
[00:28:42]  Good.
[00:28:42]  It goes to the summit at that point, and it'll be time to get down to business.
[00:28:49]  Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.
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[00:29:50]  So, Congressman, just to kind of close the loop on the story with the debt ceiling, how do you see this playing out then?
[00:29:59]  I mean, obviously, you know, there will be concessions, but instead of the administration saying this is Hash is taking, I would love to have them have some acknowledgement that we are leveraging the entire American economy.
[00:30:11]  And the interest rate hike of the Fed, the very lead of all these interest rate hikes, the fire alarm that no one wants to talk about is like, yeah, okay, buying a home is going to be more expensive, obviously, asset prices, but it's going to be more expensive for us to run our own government.
[00:30:27]  We were doing a lot of these COVID spending measures when the floating interest rate, the Fed rate, was 70% lower than it is now.
[00:30:35]  Your thoughts?
[00:30:36]  Sure.
[00:30:37]  And that's not the only, I mean, the problems metastasized, Charlie.
[00:30:41]  You've seen these ominous developments with the BRIC countries looking like they're going to start doing deals off the U.S. dollar.
[00:30:50]  So the dollar's reserve currency status begins to become questions.
[00:30:53]  All these things, we cannot continue the financial malfeasance.
[00:30:58]  There's going to be a crash site.
[00:31:00]  And so that's what this is about.
[00:31:02]  It would be the most irresponsible position in American political history for Biden to maintain the notion or Chuck Schumer that they're not going to talk about what needs to be done.
[00:31:12]  So this is the first step.
[00:31:15]  We send a robust package to turn the ship of state, fiscal state, in a new direction and say, well, of course, we're going to handle expanding the debt ceiling responsibly.
[00:31:29]  And then we started, that leads to a conversation.
[00:31:31]  They have to come forward.
[00:31:32]  And of course, this will be negotiated.
[00:31:34]  see where we get but the most important thing they didn't think we could put something together in the house and get 218 votes for it we're going to prove them wrong next week and it's a great package to start this is going to the the the amount we're borrowing is going to incentivize the federal government to confiscate more assets because they'll say okay well in order for us to then be able to balance our books then let's just say that if you have three homes we're going to take two of them I am not kidding.
[00:31:59]  They are creating the precondition for a massive confiscation of private property and a mass confiscation of wealth.
[00:32:06]  When you borrow, you can either default on your debt or one of these lunatics is going to say, look, why don't we just go pay your fair share and we're going to go confiscate hundreds of billions of dollars from the plutocrats and the oligarchs.
[00:32:17]  And by the way, if you have a high ESG score, you'll be exempt.
[00:32:21]  This is the way they're at it.
[00:32:22]  We dealt with this before, Charlie, in a sense.
[00:32:26]  At the end of World War II, our debt was enormous.
[00:32:28]  And Congress did two things.
[00:32:29]  It got to work cutting spending.
[00:32:31]  And it also took steps to grow the economy anew, not grow inflation, make the economy grow in real terms.
[00:32:39]  And that's exactly what we've got to accomplish again.
[00:32:41]  So let's get at it.
[00:32:42]  Let's get to work.
[00:32:43]  Let's make it happen.
[00:32:43]  All right, Congressman, I want to talk about the story here with you're on that weaponization of government committee.
[00:32:49]  What can you tell us about this new development, Tony Blinken, kind of running point to get this ridiculous political story?
[00:32:54]  50 former officials say that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation.
[00:32:58]  Minute and a half remaining, tell us about it.
[00:33:00]  So I'm sitting in the transcribed interviews we're taking of the people who participated, and that much is absolutely clear.
[00:33:07]  Anthony Blinken was working for the Biden campaign when he prompted Mike Morrell and Palmeropoulos and the whole list of 51 ultimately to do this letter suggesting that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation.
[00:33:29]  Those guys still don't profess any shame over the doing of that, but it was itself disinformation and important interference with the election in 2020.
[00:33:40]  They keep on saying, you know, you're a denialist or you're crazy if you say there were problems with the 2020 election.
[00:33:47]  They were engaged in a disinformation effort.
[00:33:50]  There were contacts through the CIA, according to some information we have, that bring other people on that letter.
[00:33:56]  It was a Biden op, just like the steel dossier back in 2016 turns out to have been a Clinton campaign op.
[00:34:04]  Yep.
[00:34:05]  It's incredible.
[00:34:06]  Congressman, I know you guys are working very, very hard, but I'm just going to remind you how our audience feels.
[00:34:12]  We need people in handcuffs.
[00:34:13]  We need perp walks.
[00:34:15]  We need people to go to jail.
[00:34:18]  I don't find joy in talking like this, but the abuse that they have administered against the United States Constitution and our country, we need justice, especially as they come after so many people.
[00:34:29]  Consequences are necessary.
[00:34:30]  I know you feel the same way.
[00:34:32]  I do, Charlie.
[00:34:34]  We don't control the FBI.
[00:34:36]  There are no law enforcement processes.
[00:34:38]  But what we do have, I've negotiated the authority for this committee personally in that January 23 fight.
[00:34:44]  So I know what we have the opportunity to do.
[00:34:47]  And we are.
[00:34:48]  We're sending subpoenas in every direction.
[00:34:51]  I think the flurry could be bigger, and I think we could get deeper and do it.
[00:34:55]  So we've got that's where we can expose things that people know.
[00:34:58]  You're doing a great job.
[00:34:59]  Thank you, Congressman.
[00:35:00]  See you soon.
[00:35:00]  Thank you.
[00:35:01]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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