The Charlie Kirk Show - Should DeSantis Step In? Can He?
Aired: 2023-03-22
Duration: 36:31


=== Political Persecution in New York (14:14) ===

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[00:00:06]  It's a radical proposal.
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[00:01:07]  Ron DeSantis has been in the headlines the last couple of days.
[00:01:11]  I think some of the coverage of him has been unfair.
[00:01:14]  Some of it, I think, has been pretty good feedback.
[00:01:18]  I think people have been really fired up at Governor DeSantis because they feel as if in that press conference, he kind of took a little bit of a low jab against Trump.
[00:01:25]  He didn't quite understand how angry people were about this ridiculous overreach abuse of indictment authority and prosecutorial abuse done by, potentially done by Alvin Bragg in Manhattan because it seemed as if they were going to indict Donald Trump.
[00:01:40]  And now that's a little bit more in question, largely because of the media and the PR backlash.
[00:01:46]  But Ron DeSantis the other day said this, and let's just play it again.
[00:01:50]  Again, and I think that some of the representations of this press conference have been overblown.
[00:01:58]  At the same time, I'll be honest, he missed an opportunity.
[00:02:00]  He should have been very forceful.
[00:02:02]  He should have leaned in.
[00:02:03]  And there's one element here that I think he missed.
[00:02:06]  Matt Gates also identified this as well.
[00:02:09]  But let's replay it.
[00:02:11]  Cut 12.
[00:02:12]  This was Ron DeSantis speaking on the Trump case.
[00:02:15]  Won some sneering and snarking from the audience.
[00:02:19]  Play Cut 12.
[00:02:21]  You're talking about this situation with, and look, I don't know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence over some type of alleged affair.
[00:02:31]  I just, I can't speak to that.
[00:02:33]  But what I can speak to is that if you have a prosecutor who is ignoring crimes happening every single day in his jurisdiction, and he chooses to go back many, many years ago to try to use something about porn star hush money payments, you know, that's an example of pursuing a political agenda and weaponizing the office.
[00:02:59]  And I think that that's fundamentally wrong.
[00:03:02]  Now, that statement did not sit well with a lot of you, the audience, and especially amongst a lot of conservative commentators, largely because there was this opportunity.
[00:03:13]  There was this opportunity to do something that I think the base wanted to see, where they wanted to see somebody stand up against the bully.
[00:03:21]  They wanted to see somebody to use political power to stand up against this Alvin Bragg guy who very well, for the first time in American history, will indict a former president.
[00:03:31]  And the New York Times even did a legal analysis and determined that the New York District Attorney's Office has never brought a criminal referral on a campaign finance violation before.
[00:03:40]  This would be the first.
[00:03:41]  This was kind of an us versus them moment.
[00:03:43]  It's very, very tribal.
[00:03:46]  I'm not saying that's a good moment to be in American politics, but it's honest and it's pure and it's raw and it's authentic.
[00:03:52]  And people wanted a warrior at that press conference.
[00:03:55]  And instead, it seemed as if Ron DeSantis was kind of taking a jab at Donald Trump and looked at responses.
[00:04:00]  Well, Trump has been very unfair to DeSantis.
[00:04:03]  I think that's an accurate response.
[00:04:05]  But despite the pettiness that this campaign has kind of unfortunately descended into, the idea of indicting a former president is bigger than name-calling.
[00:04:16]  And so the question is: well, what should Ron DeSantis have done from a policy perspective?
[00:04:20]  And I think that's a very interesting question because outside of just issuing a statement and saying, I don't like it and he's doing prosecutor overreach, which he did include in his statement, I think it's critical to explore why it is that a blue state DA could just invent a new law to be able to indict a former president, to interfere with the presidential election.
[00:04:46]  If Joe Biden is running for president in 2024, how is Alvin Bragg not doing the political bidding of the Biden campaign?
[00:04:54]  This is a direct election interference.
[00:04:56]  This is not about campaign finance.
[00:04:57]  It's not about justice.
[00:04:58]  This is about revenge.
[00:04:59]  This is about punitive abuse of the prosecutorial system.
[00:05:05]  And the answer will be like, well, Ron DeSantis can't do anything.
[00:05:09]  And that's an interesting question.
[00:05:11]  Can a governor, can somebody in a state stand up to abuse from powers from the federal government or from another state?
[00:05:22]  Well, Matt Gates has floated out an idea.
[00:05:25]  It's come under great ridicule.
[00:05:28]  It's come under great attack.
[00:05:30]  But it's interesting and it's not as unprecedented as you might think.
[00:05:35]  Play Cut 44.
[00:05:37]  Ron DeSantis should be standing in the breach to stop any sort of extradition of President Trump from the state of Florida.
[00:05:44]  And the fact that he's not doing so puts every Floridian at risk who could be the subject of a false allegation.
[00:05:50]  I know Ron DeSantis well.
[00:05:52]  He's a friend, but he hasn't been the target of false and persistent allegations like President Trump has.
[00:05:59]  And so I don't think he really understands the nature of this fight right now.
[00:06:03]  I think that it was a bit uncouth for him to take a jab at the former president.
[00:06:07]  And there's a role for the governor of Florida here, I think, to stand up for our state, for the rule of law, and to push back against the Sorosization of the criminal justice system.
[00:06:18]  So then what does this moment necessitate?
[00:06:21]  And this is a question that we ask of conservative politicians, pundits, people in the conservative movement.
[00:06:27]  Do you know what time it is?
[00:06:29]  Is it the 1990s, or have we entered a new era, this kind of postmodern chapter where it's a power struggle?
[00:06:38]  Very simply, Ron DeSantis should look into the camera and say, we're not going to honor the extradition.
[00:06:44]  It's dead on arrival.
[00:06:46]  If you're trying to tell me you're going to indict a former president through a campaign finance violation in New York, I'm going to send the Florida sheriffs and say this warrant does not apply.
[00:06:56]  Now, the ramifications of that are extreme.
[00:06:58]  That is an extreme proposal.
[00:07:00]  I think it warrants it in this situation.
[00:07:03]  What good are red states if you do not stand up for what is right and what is moral and what is clear?
[00:07:10]  It'd be one thing if we had a video of Donald Trump firebombing police officers with Molotov cocktails like the BLM activists.
[00:07:17]  It'd be one thing if we had evidence of Donald Trump on Jeffrey Epstein's plane going down to the island like we do with Bill Gates and Bill Clinton.
[00:07:27]  It'd be one thing if we have evidence of Donald Trump smashing cell phones like Hillary Clinton did.
[00:07:32]  It'd be one thing if we have evidence of Donald Trump getting millions of dollars from Chinese Communist Party affiliated companies for absolutely nothing in return.
[00:07:42]  Then I would say, hey, let's not cross that Rubicon.
[00:07:45]  This is an invented, it is a fictional legal prosecution that they are probing right now.
[00:07:52]  And now the media is saying, oh, wow, Matt Gates is calling for quasi-secession.
[00:07:56]  How dare states stand up and say that this is wrong.
[00:08:03]  Why would states ever use that power?
[00:08:05]  Well, just to kind of reinforce how absurd this is, Senator Ted Cruz defending Donald Trump play cut 54.
[00:08:12]  Yeah, listen, the long and short of it is this indictment, if it comes this week, is absolutely outrageous.
[00:08:19]  It is frivolous.
[00:08:21]  It is baseless.
[00:08:22]  It is a political persecution.
[00:08:24]  It is not a prosecution.
[00:08:26]  It is targeting Donald Trump because Alvin Bragg is a left-wing Democrat who hates Donald Trump.
[00:08:32]  And legally, this case is absurd on its face.
[00:08:38]  Remember, Cruz was the main person facing off against Trump in 2016.
[00:08:42]  He refused to endorse him at the 2016 convention.
[00:08:46]  And now Ted Cruz is saying this is baseless and it's a political persecution.
[00:08:50]  Can red states do anything?
[00:08:52]  Can Ron DeSantis do anything?
[00:08:53]  Some people would say, well, Charlie, no, no, you have to abide by these interstate arrest warrants.
[00:09:00]  You cannot break those kind of contractual obligations.
[00:09:03]  You can't just wall off cities.
[00:09:05]  You just can't have your own laws.
[00:09:07]  You just can't have your own jurisdictions.
[00:09:10]  Like, are you sure?
[00:09:16]  That might sound right, but then how do you explain sanctuary cities?
[00:09:22]  How do you explain sanctuary states?
[00:09:25]  For the last decade, we've had blue states that have said, we have our own immigration law.
[00:09:29]  Federal law doesn't apply.
[00:09:30]  Doesn't matter if these people are rapists or murderers or arsonists or child sex traffickers.
[00:09:34]  They have a home in Chicago, in D.C., in New York, San Francisco, Portland, and Seattle.
[00:09:39]  Sanctuary cities.
[00:09:39]  We're going to create our own laws.
[00:09:41]  We're going to carve out our own areas.
[00:09:42]  So why doesn't Ron DeSantis create a sanctuary state for a former president under political persecution?
[00:09:50]  If the left is able to create sanctuary states for rapists and murderers, thugs and criminals, I don't think it's too big of an ass for Ron DeSantis to create a sanctuary state for a former president who's being persecuted by a Soros-funded DA in a separate state.
[00:10:10]  And so the last couple of years, we've lived under this precedent where blue states are able to carve out their own laws.
[00:10:19]  This is not without precedent.
[00:10:20]  When it came to immigration law, we just kind of rolled our eyes and said, well, I guess that's what happened in San Francisco, New York, L.A.
[00:10:26]  So they're able to carve out sanctuary states for illegals, violent felons, by the way.
[00:10:34]  Remember this?
[00:10:34]  In 2019, after a cop was killed, Hakeem Jeffries defended what they called sanctuary laws.
[00:10:42]  And how is that not an act of secession?
[00:10:45]  So let me get this straight.
[00:10:46]  New York City, defended by Hakeem Jeffries, can say illegals, foreign nationals, and border trespassers are allowed in the city of New York, and they're allowed to carve out their own laws.
[00:10:57]  How is that not an act of secession?
[00:11:00]  But Florida's not able to say, you know what, New York, no, you're not able to go take a former president on a campaign finance violation.
[00:11:07]  Not going to happen.
[00:11:08]  The line is here.
[00:11:09]  Play Cut 51.
[00:11:11]  You've defended sanctuary laws.
[00:11:13]  The sheriff says if those laws hadn't been in place, Officer Singh would be alive today.
[00:11:17]  My experience in New York has been different where members of the NYPD, clearly the most professional, highly trained law enforcement entity in the country, if not the world, has been that these sanctuary laws actually help promote public safety by encouraging cooperation, encouraging communication between community and police.
[00:11:41]  Remember this saying in Cut 52, it's actually recently UNESCO Hernandez for the LA City Council saying that illegal immigrants are the lifeblood of the city of Los Angeles.
[00:11:50]  They're the lifeblood.
[00:11:52]  Play Cut 52.
[00:11:54]  A city of Los Angeles that protects immigrants, that welcomes immigrants, that say you are the lifeblood of the city and that we embrace you, that we love you, and you are part of our community, and we will do everything so that you can live in the city and thrive.
[00:12:09]  And finally, St. Louis leaders respond to the threats from the U.S. Department of Justice, this is under Trump, and they're basically saying, We're going to keep on doing sanctuary cities in outright defiance of the federal government.
[00:12:23]  So you can just make up your own laws now.
[00:12:24]  The answer is yes, and we've just taken it.
[00:12:26]  So the left is able to carve out their own laws, their own convenient places that make them comfortable for lawbreaking, crime, rape, arson, and yes, gender mutilation, which I'll get to in a second.
[00:12:40]  Play Cut 53.
[00:12:42]  St. Louis leaders are responding to threats from the U.S. Department of Justice to stick it to sanctuary cities.
[00:12:48]  In a conversation with five on your side today, Lewis Reed said it is outrageous the federal government wants to set local policies just to fit President Trump's priorities.
[00:12:58]  He also said the city has a lot of problems and illegal immigration just is not at the top of the list.
[00:13:04]  Oh, they have a lot of problems and they want to keep the federal government out of the way.
[00:13:08]  Okay.
[00:13:09]  Well, did you know right now, California SB 107, California is saying they're going to ignore anti-mutilation laws in other states.
[00:13:18]  In fact, it goes so far to say that if you bring your child to California and you say you're fleeing the anti-trans laws, they'll ignore family court rulings.
[00:13:29]  They will say that the court rulings from other states do not apply in California.
[00:13:34]  That it is a sanctuary state.
[00:13:35]  You can flee as a refugee into California.
[00:13:39]  So a very simple question.
[00:13:40]  If California can be a sanctuary state for child mutilation, then why can't Florida protect a former president from bogus charges?
[00:13:52]  It's a very simple question.
[00:13:55]  It is a one-to-one.
[00:13:57]  The left has already forced a constitutional crisis.
[00:14:00]  People are losing their mind because all of a sudden they realize that conservatives are beginning to stand up against their overreach, their abuse of power.
[00:14:08]  Isn't this the perfect opportunity to say you're not going to actually be able to extradite him?
[00:14:12]  It's not going to happen.

=== The Soros Sanction Rubicon (13:41) ===

[00:14:14]  If we had an honest media, I wouldn't be the first one telling you this.
[00:14:18]  The left forced the hand of the constitutional crisis here.
[00:14:21]  Sanctuary cities, refusal to deport, refusal to comply with federal officials.
[00:14:27]  Remember Chaz, the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone?
[00:14:30]  And then, of course, now this other one, this anti-trans, this what they call is the anti-mutilation laws in California, where they can create their own laws and carve outs and ignore what other states are doing.
[00:14:42]  If that's the new precedent, then so be it.
[00:14:46]  The line should be drawn and should say you're not going to be able to extradite him.
[00:14:49]  He's safe here in the state of Florida.
[00:14:51]  He's welcome here in the state of Florida.
[00:14:55]  If you can have a refugee-type policy for kids that are getting medically mutilated in Arkansas and they fly to Los Angeles to try to get their parts chopped off, then I think President Trump should be able to rest at Mar-a-Lago without having to worry about an extradition request from one state to the other.
[00:15:14]  Now, some people say, well, Charlie, this is so extreme.
[00:15:16]  This has never been done before.
[00:15:18]  No, it's not.
[00:15:18]  It's being done in California and other places.
[00:15:20]  And the left has forced this.
[00:15:21]  The left does not live by any sort of code of conduct, clear ethics, or transparent rules.
[00:15:27]  It's all about power, and it's convenient, and they'll contort the rules to their liking.
[00:15:31]  At some point, you have to show the political bullies like Alvin Bragg that we have power too.
[00:15:37]  Florida has an opportunity to do this and just say, we're not extraditing him.
[00:15:42]  What are you going to do next, Alvin Bragg?
[00:15:44]  Moves on you.
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[00:16:52]  There's some breaking news, and I'm going to answer a really good question we received here.
[00:16:57]  Breaking news.
[00:16:57]  Trump grand jury proceedings canceled for the day under mysterious circumstances.
[00:17:03]  Are they going to blink?
[00:17:04]  This would be one of the great swings and a miss if they get this close with all the bluster, all the PR, all the media, all the hype, and they blink and they back off.
[00:17:17]  There's no guarantee.
[00:17:18]  I still think they might go for it.
[00:17:20]  I still think they might actually go and they might put it.
[00:17:22]  I don't know.
[00:17:23]  I don't want to make any predictions here because some of my predictions have been way off on this stuff in the last couple months.
[00:17:28]  But boy, that would be something.
[00:17:30]  So they're canceled under mysterious circumstances.
[00:17:34]  I have to say, Donald Trump, this last weekend, he went and got the lifeline.
[00:17:42]  And he basically pulled his last measure, which was to say, I'm going to be indicted.
[00:17:47]  And what happened was it thrust a lot of PR support preemptively and it pre-bunked this and it put the Manhattan DA on defense.
[00:17:56]  Op-Eds, Twitter, all of a sudden it's like, wait, what is this?
[00:17:58]  What are the charges?
[00:17:58]  What is this?
[00:17:59]  What are the charges?
[00:18:00]  It's very smart.
[00:18:01]  And Trump actually might have been able, if he ends up not getting indicted in this, he will have pre-bunked and preempted it.
[00:18:07]  It would be one of the most remarkable textbook moves in the narrative war.
[00:18:11]  Now, we received a really good question.
[00:18:13]  And a good question here is this.
[00:18:15]  They say, well, Charlie, your idea is troublesome because what about Donald Trump wanting to campaign for president?
[00:18:22]  That's actually a really good point.
[00:18:24]  But let's go through the states that you have to win to become president, at least in the meantime, before this con job actually happens.
[00:18:31]  Okay, Iowa.
[00:18:34]  Will Governor Reynolds do the same thing as DeSantis if DeSantis were to do this?
[00:18:39]  Sure.
[00:18:39]  How about South Carolina?
[00:18:41]  What I'm saying is that all the red states should honor this.
[00:18:45]  This is a time for every red state to say, you know what, we are not going to honor this.
[00:18:49]  Now, Arizona, albeit Katie Hobbs would send the shock troops immediately.
[00:18:54]  The point is this, is that this is a chance.
[00:18:56]  I think this is a Rubicon moment where are we just going to take this?
[00:19:01]  We're going to act like this is normal and this is okay when we have political power and we can at least fight this in some capacity.
[00:19:10]  Is Donald Trump a violent criminal?
[00:19:14]  The question is this, do they have interstate extradition over traffic violations, over parking violations?
[00:19:21]  I venture a guess, and I don't know the complexities of the law here, but one of the reasons why Alvin Bragg wants to put this up to a felony status is I think that then gives him more power for interstate extradition.
[00:19:35]  I'm speculating, but there are certain things that don't actually get you up to the threshold where they just send the sheriff after you.
[00:19:41]  They send the local police.
[00:19:45]  I think it's a yes for almost anything, but states almost only bother to do this for felonies.
[00:19:50]  They're not going to just do this for like trespassing or misdemeanor in every single case.
[00:19:55]  Now, it is a former president, so it would be hard not to ignore it, but shouldn't we at least go through some sort of a process of having the local Florida DA and the Florida Attorney General put some doubt into Alvin Bragg and say we're not going to do this, or have Iowa say that as well?
[00:20:13]  Why don't we have more states say Donald Trump is safe to travel to our state as long as that is the story?
[00:20:20]  If all of a sudden you come out with some sort of video of Donald Trump launching Molotov cocktails against police officers, we'll happily extradite him.
[00:20:28]  If all of a sudden you come out with some evidence that Donald Trump is laundering money to the Chinese Communist Party, we'll happily extradite him.
[00:20:37]  I want to get to a couple pieces of tape here I think that helps broaden this.
[00:20:40]  It's two points.
[00:20:41]  Number one, we cannot discount George Soros' role in all of this.
[00:20:48]  We've done a lot of coverage on George Soros, how he made his money, which was by shorting the Bank of England and shorting the pound, being basically a currency manipulator.
[00:20:58]  George Soros is one of the most evil political figures to live in the last couple decades.
[00:21:03]  He has dedicated nearly $20 billion to this effort.
[00:21:08]  He wants it a lot more than most conservative, wealthy people do.
[00:21:10]  He's dedicated almost all of his money with religious fervor and zeal.
[00:21:14]  He does not believe in God.
[00:21:15]  That is a stated position of his.
[00:21:17]  He believes in what he calls open societies.
[00:21:19]  He thinks the police are one of the great enemies of society.
[00:21:24]  And he funds DAs.
[00:21:25]  He funded Kim Fox.
[00:21:26]  He funded that Chessa Boudin person in San Francisco who thankfully got recalled.
[00:21:30]  And he funded Alvin Bragg.
[00:21:32]  So here's a guy who funds DA races in cities he doesn't live in.
[00:21:37]  That's strange.
[00:21:38]  You would only do that if you wanted to take over the country and you wanted to disassemble it.
[00:21:43]  George Soros wants a weaker America.
[00:21:47]  Now, interestingly, Soros in Hebrew can be, it has a couple interpretations.
[00:21:53]  It means, one of the interpretations means stones.
[00:21:56]  And that actually would mean in ancient times to be trouble, because if you had a donkey or you had a mule, they didn't have horses as we would know them, but some sort of donkey or mule, whenever you would come across stones, could break the leg.
[00:22:11]  And so therefore, Soros literally means trouble.
[00:22:13]  So you could interpret the Hebrew.
[00:22:15]  There's other interpretations as well, but I'm going with that one.
[00:22:18]  So, because there's a lot of roots and verb connotations in Hebrew.
[00:22:24]  Soros, trouble.
[00:22:25]  Okay, so George Trouble funded Alvin Bragg.
[00:22:29]  But MSNBC says that if you criticize George Soros in any way, it's dangerous.
[00:22:36]  Play cut 50.
[00:22:37]  The fact that they keep throwing George Soros' name, we've talked about a lot in our show meetings, is it definitely feels like a dog whistle that is dangerous.
[00:22:45]  It absolutely feels like a dog whistle that's dangerous.
[00:22:48]  Look, most of these groups, the oath keepers, boogaloo boys, proud boys, they all subscribe to what you are all referring to as the great replacement theory, which is that idea that the majority of the white population is being replaced.
[00:23:00]  And this is why we see these spikes in racism, these spikes in anti-Semitism, is because they are ascribing to this belief.
[00:23:08]  And it's stoking this division.
[00:23:11]  I mean, I'm actually thinking of doing a short version inspired by Matt Walsh of a docuseries, just short, like 20 or 30 minutes, just called What is Racism?
[00:23:21]  And going around to random people and asking them what is racism, how do you define it?
[00:23:24]  Because we use it so much.
[00:23:26]  And I think we're actually lacking in a definition.
[00:23:29]  Can you, hey, Ryan, can you get Iber Mex Kendi, Harry Rogers?
[00:23:33]  There was a clip that came out in the last day or two where he was asked to define racism and he kept on defining it with the term Henry Rogers.
[00:23:41]  Thank you.
[00:23:42]  You can't criticize George Soros because it's about the great replacement.
[00:23:46]  I mean, these people are so shallow intellectually.
[00:23:48]  They've never thought deeply about anything.
[00:23:51]  George Soros is a civilizational arsonist.
[00:23:53]  That's what he is.
[00:23:54]  He's no different than the Joker from the Batman movies.
[00:23:57]  He just wants to see the world burn.
[00:23:59]  He's a bitter person.
[00:24:00]  I think he has deeper motives than that.
[00:24:02]  That's somewhat speculative.
[00:24:04]  I don't want to speculate on this program.
[00:24:05]  I can say this, though.
[00:24:07]  In his publicly published writings and speeches, this man does not want what's best for America.
[00:24:14]  Now, by the way, now, MSNBC says that criticizing Mr. Soros is, there's another one here.
[00:24:22]  Hold on.
[00:24:23]  It was George.
[00:24:23]  It was Scarborough.
[00:24:24]  Not that one.
[00:24:26]  There was one the other day of it was Scarborough going after the Soros thing.
[00:24:31]  Hold on.
[00:24:31]  It's a very powerful.
[00:24:32]  Yeah, okay, good.
[00:24:33]  Great.
[00:24:33]  Cut 28, please.
[00:24:34]  Saying that DeSantis' comments about Soros are anti-Semitic.
[00:24:39]  I want to just say this is such a nauseating kind of line of attack.
[00:24:43]  You are allowed to criticize anybody of any group if they're doing something evil.
[00:24:49]  And that does not automatically mean that you have contempt for the group.
[00:24:54]  There's bad of all groups.
[00:24:56]  You should be able to say that.
[00:24:57]  There's crummy people in every religion.
[00:24:59]  There's crummy people in every race.
[00:25:01]  That doesn't mean the entire race or the religion is crummy.
[00:25:05]  You're able to say that George Soros is doing damage to America while simultaneously saying, like I say, that I have a great heart and reverence for the Jewish people.
[00:25:17]  Both can be simultaneously true.
[00:25:19]  And George Soros is not even religious.
[00:25:22]  He has contempt for religion.
[00:25:25]  Play cut 28.
[00:25:27]  Because we did kind of brush past his anti-Semitic swaying.
[00:25:33]  Yeah, like, you know, he did the whole, oh, it's the international Jewish banker's fault.
[00:25:39]  Just straight out of just pure anti-Semitic drivel.
[00:25:45]  And we now see Ron DeSantis is quoting talking points from Vladimir Putin about territorial disputes, and he's repeating old anti-Semitic tropes attacking international Jewish bankers.
[00:26:02]  It's just like, come on.
[00:26:04]  This is who you guys say is the anti-Trump.
[00:26:08]  Okay.
[00:26:09]  So this is such a sloppy line of attack by Scarborough.
[00:26:15]  Sloppiness is something he's actually been known to be good at.
[00:26:21]  This is the old kind of line of attack of Hitler had a dog.
[00:26:26]  Like, oh, Hitler had a dog, therefore all people who have dogs must be Hitler.
[00:26:30]  That line of thinking is a logical fallacy.
[00:26:33]  Just because somebody says something that Vladimir Putin, comma, a bad person, comma, also said, does not mean that you are resonating with Vladimir Putin.
[00:26:44]  Does it mean that you are parroting Putin's talking points?
[00:26:48]  This is all these people have.
[00:26:50]  I mean, this should give you so much confidence.
[00:26:52]  We are going to win this.
[00:26:54]  We're going to win this culture war.
[00:26:55]  Eventually, we have to have perseverance.
[00:26:58]  We have to have commitment.
[00:26:59]  These people have nothing.
[00:27:02]  As a response to George Soros disassembling the criminal justice system, oh, you're being anti-Semitic.
[00:27:09]  You got to go deeper than that.
[00:27:11]  That doesn't phase us.
[00:27:12]  It's untrue.
[00:27:15]  It is fallacious.
[00:27:17]  It's not even circular reasoning.
[00:27:19]  You know what it is?
[00:27:20]  I don't know who came up with this term, but it's beautiful, and I use it.
[00:27:24]  So whoever came up with it, email me.
[00:27:25]  I'll give you credit.
[00:27:26]  It's a thought-terminating cliché.
[00:27:30]  As soon as you say it, you're supposed to stop thinking.
[00:27:33]  That's what racist, transphobic, bigot, intolerant.
[00:27:37]  Soon as you say it, thought terminating cliché.
[00:27:42]  It's a cliche that makes you to stop thinking and puts you into paralysis because you don't want to be called a racist.
[00:27:54]  But what is racism?

=== Thought-Terminating Clichés Explained (03:03) ===

[00:27:56]  Again, I might do just the 20-minute short inspired by Matt Walsh.
[00:27:59]  He totally gave me the idea for it because I can't get a good question.
[00:28:03]  What is racism?
[00:28:06]  I want the question.
[00:28:07]  I mean, can you answer the question, what is racism?
[00:28:10]  Is it a power dynamic?
[00:28:11]  Can black people be racist?
[00:28:13]  It's a super simple question.
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[00:30:54]  Okay, so Henry Rogers, this is one of the most amazing clips.

=== Why Ibram Kendi Stumbles (05:32) ===

[00:30:59]  This is his job.
[00:31:00]  He's made millions of dollars talking about how racist America is.
[00:31:03]  Racist, racist, racist, racist.
[00:31:05]  But the simple question needs to be asked: well, what exactly is racism, pal?
[00:31:10]  So there was this forum, and he was asked the question, what is racism?
[00:31:16]  Now, circular reasoning is when you define the term with the term.
[00:31:21]  This happens all the time on college campuses.
[00:31:24]  I asked the question of one attendee last week, UC Davis, and this one woman, she said, well, I think a woman is someone who thinks they're a woman.
[00:31:33]  Okay, yeah, I got that.
[00:31:34]  But what is the woman?
[00:31:35]  You can't answer the question with the definition of what I'm asking you, the definition.
[00:31:39]  You have to answer the question, what is the definition of it?
[00:31:42]  But they have never thought about it.
[00:31:44]  It's basically saying, okay, the sky is blue because the hue and the color spectrum is that the sky is blue.
[00:31:52]  You can't do that.
[00:31:53]  It's like saying, well, what is a shirt?
[00:31:55]  Well, a shirt is something that is a shirt.
[00:31:58]  That alone, in second grade, you're not allowed to do that.
[00:32:00]  But now that passes for academic discipline by the senior archbishop of the religion of anti-racism, which is Ibram X. Kendi.
[00:32:09]  I can define racism.
[00:32:11]  Racism is one person being bigoted or prejudiced to another person based on immutable characteristics that they cannot change.
[00:32:18]  The other reason why Ibram X. Kendi can't answer this question is he knows that if he gives an actual definition, that it could be applied to his own bigotry he has towards white people.
[00:32:28]  So he's kind of in a catch-22.
[00:32:30]  And by the way, the whole racket that this guy has is he extorts white people, mainly upper-middle-class white suburban women that have real identity problems and they read his books, like, wow, I'm really guilty.
[00:32:42]  I'll go take my husband's money and give $500 to BLM.
[00:32:45]  It makes me feel better, kind of like a religious ceremony, is that Kendi can't expose it.
[00:32:50]  But here's the honest truth.
[00:32:51]  Kendi is just not that smart, but he keeps rocketing upward because liberals are too afraid to question him.
[00:32:56]  And this is a huge difference between us as conservatives and us as these DEI extortion racketeers.
[00:33:04]  At Turning Point USA, at our events, whether it be Candace Owens when she speaks at Turning Point USA and with the stuff we do with Blexit, or whether it be Matt Walsh or Shapiro or Knowles or the Charlie Kirk Show, you can say whatever you want about us, but we invite critical dialogue and question after question after question.
[00:33:23]  These people do not.
[00:33:24]  If Ibram X. Kendi were to show up like I'm going tonight at Ohio State University, he would not have an open mic.
[00:33:29]  You know why?
[00:33:30]  Because a Turning Point USA chapter leader would be there with an informed question and it would go viral because this guy's a fool.
[00:33:37]  The speakers on the conservative side, myself, Walsh, Shapiro, Candace, we are constantly inviting dialogue because we have to defend our positions and we can defend our positions.
[00:33:51]  Okay, so here is Ibram X. Kendi being asked, what is racism?
[00:33:55]  And racism is racism.
[00:33:57]  Like out 55.
[00:34:00]  I didn't hear your personal definition.
[00:34:02]  Is there one that you would offer us?
[00:34:03]  Like, how do you define racism?
[00:34:05]  Sure.
[00:34:06]  So racism, I would define it as a collection of racist policies that lead to racial inequity that are substantiated by racist ideas.
[00:34:18]  And anti-racism is pretty simple using the same terms.
[00:34:23]  Anti-racism is a collection of anti-racist policies leading to racial...
[00:34:27]  Anybody want to take a guess?
[00:34:29]  Equity that are substantiated by anti-racist ideas.
[00:34:33]  This guy is a moron.
[00:34:36]  Yeah, the racism is racist policies.
[00:34:40]  No, I got that, but what is the actual word you keep on using to define the word?
[00:34:45]  So my definition is the actual vocab term.
[00:34:48]  And isn't that interesting?
[00:34:49]  The whole country, we are reorganizing the whole country on a word that I don't think most of their academics can actually define.
[00:34:58]  That's why I'm kind of compelled to do this short little thing, just asking the question, what is racism?
[00:35:03]  Can you define it?
[00:35:05]  I think it would be a big hit.
[00:35:07]  I'm going to do it, Ryan.
[00:35:08]  I think it'll be fun.
[00:35:11]  And this is all they have.
[00:35:12]  And the fact you go even just like one level deeper, you just go a little bit deeper and you ask the question, what exactly is it?
[00:35:19]  That guy is a multi-millionaire racketeer on the topic of racism.
[00:35:25]  You would think that he would be able to have a better definition than that.
[00:35:29]  His whole life is about this.
[00:35:31]  I mean, if you asked a molecular biologist, hey, what is molecular biology?
[00:35:36]  I think they would be able to answer it in a pretty tight way without actually using the term in the definition.
[00:35:43]  You wouldn't allow a third grader to do that.
[00:35:47]  Google at least says it's prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is minority or marginalized.
[00:35:58]  The second part's a little bit nonsensical, but I'll take it.
[00:36:01]  That's pretty good.
[00:36:04]  What is racism?
[00:36:07]  It's a very simple question that the people who make millions of dollars in telling you racism is everywhere can't even tell you what it is.
[00:36:16]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
[00:36:18]  Email me your thoughts as alwaysfreedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:36:21]  Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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