The Charlie Kirk Show - A Second January 6th Committee? with Julie Kelly and Mollie Hemingway
Aired: 2023-03-10
Duration: 30:13


=== Breaking The January 6 Narrative (09:25) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, Julie Kelly and Molly Hemingway to talk about January 6th, talk about media censorship and more.
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[00:00:56]  I have been dying to get this guest on the program all week, ever since Kevin McCarthy gave the footage over to Tucker Carlson.
[00:01:02]  And again, Kevin deserves a lot of credit for that.
[00:01:04]  He did not have to do what he did.
[00:01:07]  And the guest is Julie Kelly.
[00:01:09]  She's the author of January 6th, How the Democrats Used the Capitol Protest to Launch a War on Terror Against the Political Right.
[00:01:15]  She understands the details of January 6th better than almost anybody else, except maybe Darren Beattie.
[00:01:21]  They're right up there together.
[00:01:22]  And I have several questions for Julie.
[00:01:24]  Julie, welcome to the program.
[00:01:25]  Julie, walk our audience through, from your perspective, the importance, the weight, and the significance of this footage now finally becoming public.
[00:01:35]  I think the significance is that the American people are starting to come to terms with and realize that the carefully constructed narrative about January 6th isn't the real story.
[00:01:48]  And that is why you see people like Chuck Schumer, Mitch McConnell, Mitt Romney, et cetera, completely melting down this week, in addition to the national news media that Tucker had access to these hidden recordings that have not been, Charlie, not only not made available to the public, but to defendants and their attorneys.
[00:02:11]  So it is breaking down the narrative.
[00:02:13]  The American people want to see more of this video.
[00:02:16]  We see that from the Rasmussen poll.
[00:02:18]  80% of Americans want to see all of the available video.
[00:02:23]  And so I think that this is just part of the crumbling narrative that is nonetheless Charlie being used by this Department of Justice and FBI to destroy the lives of thousands of Americans, even for minimal involvement in the events of January 6th.
[00:02:38]  So I played this tape last hour, but I find this to be unbelievably persuasive.
[00:02:43]  And Julie, I think you'll enjoy hearing it.
[00:02:46]  Cut 79 is Joe Rogan and Michael Malice reacting in real time.
[00:02:51]  It's as if you had a private hidden camera of how they react to the footage that is now being made public to people that are not right-wing ideologues by any measure.
[00:03:00]  Play Cut 79, please.
[00:03:02]  Right.
[00:03:03]  You're not supposed to go into the Capitol building.
[00:03:05]  Grant.
[00:03:05]  I thought it's, I thought you at certain times you wanted.
[00:03:07]  Not like that.
[00:03:08]  Yeah, not like that.
[00:03:08]  Not like that.
[00:03:09]  But when you see the people taking him around essentially on a tour, that's not what I thought it was.
[00:03:16]  Not even defending them.
[00:03:18]  It's just forget about it.
[00:03:20]  Let's look at what actually happened.
[00:03:22]  We didn't know that happened.
[00:03:24]  Right.
[00:03:25]  We had a version of it.
[00:03:26]  It was just chaos and the cops ran away.
[00:03:28]  And the cops were murdered.
[00:03:30]  Cops were murdered.
[00:03:31]  Yeah.
[00:03:32]  I would have never imagined that this.
[00:03:34]  I'm shocked to see that.
[00:03:36]  That's so wild.
[00:03:37]  And so I think people are just starting to recognize that it's not what you thought it was.
[00:03:42]  So, Julie, that clip is very powerful.
[00:03:46]  What is your reaction to not just that clip, but this idea that finally the American people can get educated and informed of what happened on January 6th?
[00:03:56]  While you're at it, tell us about potential Brady violations as well.
[00:04:00]  So, Charlie, that's very similar to the response that I got from a lot of people, even people who have been sort of following January 6th, that they were expecting some bombshells, but not to the level that what Tucker presented on Monday and Tuesday.
[00:04:17]  When you see what happened with Jacob Chansley, completely railroaded by his Justice Department, get this, Charlie.
[00:04:23]  I re-looked up his documents today.
[00:04:25]  Jacob Chansley, as we now see, walking peacefully around the building, accompanied by numerous Capitol police officers.
[00:04:32]  That was January 6th.
[00:04:34]  On January 11th, five days later, a grand jury in Washington, D.C. handed down several crimes against Jacob Chansley.
[00:04:43]  Five days later, it's like this was preset, ready to go.
[00:04:48]  This DOJ, D.C. U.S. Attorney's Office, had all of the charges collected that they were going to use against these people.
[00:04:55]  I mean, that is pretty stunning, something that even I covered the case that I think is pretty illuminating.
[00:05:01]  But I do think people were shocked at seeing Brian Sicknick, who even this week, Attorney General America Garland and the White House press secretary continue to lie about Brian Sicknick.
[00:05:13]  So too did Charles Schumer on the Senate floor, saying that he died as a result of January 6th.
[00:05:18]  It's simply not true, Charlie.
[00:05:20]  And we've known this.
[00:05:21]  I've covered this since February of 2021.
[00:05:24]  He sadly, tragically, died at the age of 42 of a stroke caused by two blood clots near his brainstem.
[00:05:31]  It had nothing to do with what happened on January 6th.
[00:05:34]  And now we see that because he's walking around the building looking fine.
[00:05:38]  He did not suffer the effects of being sprayed with pepper spray by one protester or being gassed by his own fellow police officers, which we know happened thanks to body worn camera footage.
[00:05:53]  But Charlie, nonetheless, a man named Julian Cater was sentenced to 71 months in jail for allegedly spraying Brian Sicknick that afternoon.
[00:06:02]  Brian Sicknick's mother, father, brother-in-law, and his ex-girlfriend submitted victim impact statements during before Julian Cater's sentencing, claiming that he was responsible for killing Brian Sicknick.
[00:06:17]  They also blamed Donald Trump for that.
[00:06:19]  This is the sort of farcical theater that's happening in this DC district courthouse.
[00:06:24]  And as I told Tucker the other night, and I've said repeatedly, the real villains here are the judges in Washington, D.C., who are letting the DOJ get away with concealing evidence, using cherry-picked clips as evidence, and withholding this huge trove of surveillance video, which needs to be reminded.
[00:06:44]  This is publicly paid-for security system for a public building that houses public employees.
[00:06:52]  That footage technically belongs to us.
[00:06:55]  It does not belong to the Capitol Police.
[00:06:57]  It doesn't even belong to Congress or Speaker, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, who does deserve a huge commendation for allowing Tucker's team to access that video.
[00:07:08]  Now it's time to release the rest of it.
[00:07:10]  Now, a lot of it won't have anything to do with what happened inside and outside, but we need to see it.
[00:07:15]  The defendants need to see it.
[00:07:17]  The SickNick revelation is truly wild, but what they will say is: is it possible that the stroke that he suffered and died from was because of the stress of the event, or is there any other potential explanation?
[00:07:32]  No, there isn't.
[00:07:34]  And the coroner simply stated that he died of a stroke, that it was not an allergic reaction to spray.
[00:07:41]  Could it be stress?
[00:07:43]  I don't know.
[00:07:44]  That's a stretch.
[00:07:44]  Does stress cause blood clots?
[00:07:46]  I don't think so.
[00:07:47]  But there's other video of Brian Sicknick where he looks, you know, he's rinsing tear gas or pepper spray out of his eyes.
[00:07:55]  He's walking around, he's trying to regroup.
[00:07:57]  You know, he's not laying on the floor screaming.
[00:07:59]  He looks like pretty chill about what's happening.
[00:08:03]  And we know he went back and called his brother and said he got sprayed a couple of times, but that he was fine.
[00:08:09]  So, the idea that somehow he was and he suffered the stroke that night, that he was so overcome by stress about what happened.
[00:08:17]  When you clearly saw in that other video that he's sort of walking around like looking for something to do, just slides in the face of this narrative.
[00:08:26]  And that's why it's so important to get all of this out.
[00:08:30]  Because as I said, men have been charged in connection with his death.
[00:08:33]  He's been blamed.
[00:08:34]  These people have been blamed for that.
[00:08:36]  We also have claims of other police officers who were injured.
[00:08:40]  You know, this is part of the material that the government uses as incriminating evidence against January 6th defendants that all of them are responsible for harming police officers.
[00:08:51]  Simply not true.
[00:08:52]  So I think people are waking up not just to the idea that the government has withheld this evidence, but also the result of this cover-up sham.
[00:09:04]  And that is innocent people like Jacob Chansley lives being destroyed and languishing in prison for 41 months to support this fight-in regime and DOJ's narrative about January 6th.
[00:09:16]  I want everybody to check out Julie Kelly's book.
[00:09:18]  The book is January 6th: How Democrats Use the Capitol Protest to Launch a War on Terror Against the Political Right.

=== Exposing Government Cover-Up Tapes (04:58) ===

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[00:09:31]  They used the narrative of the Capitol protest to launch a war on terror against us.
[00:09:39]  That's why they network this is why they are so upset about this footage being made public because maybe the war on terror should not be a war at all.
[00:09:51]  Ask yourself, why is Chuck Yu Schumer so mad?
[00:09:54]  It's because the basis, the validation for Patriot Act 2.0 is disintegrating and they become less powerful because of it.
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[00:11:19]  Our audience is very upset, and they should be.
[00:11:23]  What are the next steps to try to get justice, to try to get people proper legal representation?
[00:11:29]  What can possibly be done here now that we are learning the truth?
[00:11:32]  Julie, your thoughts.
[00:11:33]  The next step, Charlie, I think is for House Republicans to form their own January 6th Select Committee.
[00:11:39]  I understand that the oversight committee or judiciary or the newly formed weaponization committee could try to tackle this, but this is such a massive problem, so many levels that involves the Department of Justice, the FBI, the DCUS Attorney's Office, and more importantly, the DC District Court.
[00:12:00]  We really need leadership from congressional Republicans to hire up staffers and investigators who cannot just investigate what happened, but force these people finally some public accountability.
[00:12:14]  We need to see these people explain to the American people, Judge Tim Kelly, why you're keeping nonviolent offenders behind bars for two years.
[00:12:21]  He's not the only one, by the way.
[00:12:23]  We need to find out why House Democrats kept this 44,000 hour trove out of the hands, not just of the FBI, but certainly obstructing justice.
[00:12:36]  That's what this is, Charlie.
[00:12:37]  House Democrats have obstructed justice, the rights of defendants, by keeping all of this video under wraps with House Democrat committees.
[00:12:48]  And that's how Kevin McCarthy got his hands on it.
[00:12:50]  But that's what we need, our own select committee, because you're right, Charlie, people are outraged by this.
[00:12:57]  And I'll tell you, there's still a lot of Republicans out there who won't touch this with the 10-foot poll.
[00:13:03]  You saw shamefully Republican senators.
[00:13:07]  Oh, they're gutless wonders.
[00:13:08]  Oh, they're terrible.
[00:13:10]  They're complicit in denying the due process rights of American citizens.
[00:13:17]  They are complicit by what they're doing.
[00:13:20]  And Mitt Romney, who took a knee and marched with BLM and said he supported BLM when they were burning down cities, attacking police officers, killing people across the country, for him to say one word in defense of what this regime is doing.
[00:13:36]  These people really are just shameful, tear point, cowards.
[00:13:40]  It really is.
[00:13:41]  It's disturbing and it's sad and it's sick.
[00:13:43]  Kevin McCarthy is saying he's going to publicize all of this footage.
[00:13:49]  I fully support that.
[00:13:51]  Julie, I think having an actual crowdsourced operation, we could get to the truth even quicker.
[00:13:57]  What are your thoughts on that as we conclude?
[00:13:59]  I agree with it now.
[00:14:00]  Look, I supported the idea of giving this to Tucker and you see exactly why.
[00:14:04]  It needed to be a surgical strike.
[00:14:07]  It needed to have massive impact with the most powerful influencer on the right.
[00:14:12]  And that's exactly what happened.
[00:14:14]  Had this been watered down with hundreds or thousands of people combing through it, a lot of people who aren't familiar with the events of January 6th, what to look for.

=== Attack On Free Journalism (14:59) ===

[00:14:23]  There certainly are some, but there's not a lot.
[00:14:26]  And then flooding the zone, it would have minimized the impact of what we see happening this week.
[00:14:31]  So this was the right approach, but now it's time to turn over the tapes to everyone and let us take a look and identify some of the things that Tucker said he couldn't really, which was agitators or people who look like they had been hired to open doors, lead people through the Capitol.
[00:14:49]  We certainly know that FBI informants were involved months before January 6th.
[00:14:53]  So that's an issue that probably I'm more interested in is seeing unknown, unidentified, more importantly, uncharged people who are helping to instigate the events of that day.
[00:15:08]  Julie Kelly, awesome job as always.
[00:15:10]  Thank you so much.
[00:15:11]  Thanks, Charlie.
[00:15:12]  Thanks for having me on.
[00:15:15]  Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.
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[00:16:16]  Joining us now is Molly Hemingway.
[00:16:19]  Molly is one of my favorite thinkers and writers in the country, and she does an amazing job.
[00:16:24]  Molly, welcome to the program.
[00:16:26]  Molly, I want to get your initial reaction for our audience, something I so enjoyed on Twitter, where Mr. Thompson says he never actually reviewed the security footage himself.
[00:16:38]  Chairman of the January 6th Select Committee on the Attack on the Capitol never actually looked at the footage itself.
[00:16:47]  Molly, the floor is yours.
[00:16:48]  This is extraordinary stuff.
[00:16:50]  I thought this was an absolutely stunning admission.
[00:16:53]  It comes after Tucker Carlson released and showed some footage that was very interesting about the January 6th protest and riot and how what we had been told about it does not match with some of this footage in very specific ways.
[00:17:08]  And in response, the chairman of the so-called January 6th committee says he actually never had access to this footage, which is a really weird thing to say because he, as chairman with Liz Cheney, his co-chairman, showed footage from this.
[00:17:28]  You know, they showed video footage.
[00:17:29]  They had a whole made-for-TV show trial that included video vignettes from that day.
[00:17:36]  And he's now admitting that he never even had access to it, or so he's claiming.
[00:17:41]  So when he spent months claiming that they had done an exhaustive dig through these video footage, that actually just wasn't true.
[00:17:50]  He now says he never had access to any of it.
[00:17:53]  Then, what the heck was the committee doing, Molly?
[00:17:55]  I mean, it's a really simple and obvious question, right?
[00:17:58]  I mean, you have this whole committee, you got show trials, you got all these people that are testifying and all this.
[00:18:03]  Wouldn't, I don't know, a basic introductory, just a starting point.
[00:18:07]  Let's look at the footage of what happened on the day of the attack.
[00:18:10]  I mean, somewhat helpful.
[00:18:12]  I mean, how is it?
[00:18:14]  It's not, it's almost, and for him to admit it is what's so also just extraordinary.
[00:18:20]  If nothing else comes out of this Tucker Carlson footage that was shown, but this admission that the whole, you know, the admission from the chairman of the committee that the whole thing was kind of a sham, that's a that's a sufficient enough result of the process.
[00:18:34]  So one thing that was interesting is that this J6 committee, hand-selected by Nancy Pelosi for political purposes to control the midterm elections, was that they turned over access of this footage, which they admit that they didn't actually have access to.
[00:18:49]  They turned it over to ABC News producers who they hired to make like a really good show.
[00:18:56]  And so this week we're told that the worst thing in the history of the world is that Kevin McCarthy gave access to a Fox News journalist to report on this footage.
[00:19:06]  Well, that's what the J6 committee did, except they turned it over to these, you know, so-called ABC News producer types so that they could make a dramatic show, a made-for-television show that Tucker has now revealed was fraudulent.
[00:19:19]  You know, they added audio that wasn't there.
[00:19:22]  They manipulated and deceptively edited the video to make it look like Josh Hawley had fled the scene when in reality he was part of a group of senators who were escorted from one room to another room.
[00:19:35]  There were all these things they were doing to deceive the American people, and they were doing it with the help of these hired TV professionals to make it a really good show for gullible people.
[00:19:48]  It's so extraordinary in more ways than one.
[00:19:50]  And so.
[00:19:51]  A made-for-TV show trial.
[00:19:53]  I just think that's so powerful.
[00:19:55]  You know, so many people are emailing us, freedom at charliekirk.com, saying, Molly, we know this, we know this.
[00:20:01]  There's nothing new that we are learning this week.
[00:20:03]  But Molly, I do push back on some of these people, say, well, you guys might be ahead of the curve because you watch this program and you watch Tucker Carlson.
[00:20:10]  But Molly, the consensus has been up until this week that this was the worst attack since the Civil War.
[00:20:18]  It's terrible.
[00:20:19]  People are actually, because they're seeing the truth, starting to wake up with this.
[00:20:22]  Talk about, Molly, just how important it is to question this narrative because they've used the narrative to then justify other hyper-aggressive measures from the federal government.
[00:20:36]  This is important on a variety of levels.
[00:20:38]  Your thoughts.
[00:20:39]  So when I watched on Monday night, I thought, this is very interesting.
[00:20:43]  And I say this as someone who's followed this story closely, but I thought it was all within the realm of what I might expect to see if I had access to the footage.
[00:20:52]  When the next day you got this completely hysterical response from everybody, I realized how important it was to just show these basic facts.
[00:21:02]  Many of us who have studied this issue or reported on this issue, we already knew some of these things.
[00:21:07]  But there had been such narrative control over what you're allowed to say or know about the January 6th event that when someone broke through that, all heck broke loose in both parties, you might note.
[00:21:21]  And was really struck by what something that Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell said.
[00:21:26]  He came out.
[00:21:27]  So Chuck Schumer says, I would like to censor Fox News and I would like to have everyone's help in censoring Fox News.
[00:21:34]  And the Senate minority leader, Mitch McConnell, who's supposedly the head of the Republican Party in Washington, D.C., he does not tell this guy that that is a horrific attack on the First Amendment.
[00:21:43]  He agrees with him.
[00:21:45]  He says it was a mistake to show the American people footage that was at odds with the official government line.
[00:21:51]  He literally said, it's a mistake to show something at variance with what the official government narrative is.
[00:21:58]  This is terrifying type stuff, but also shows the power of just showing people with their, you know, so they can watch with their own eyes, make their own determination.
[00:22:07]  Was this in fact the worst moment in human history?
[00:22:11]  Or was it a protest about a shoddy election that was poorly run with many changes to rules, some of which were, you know, rushed through or done through in very unconstitutional fashion with the infiltration of big tech and big media into election meddling with the Zuckerberg funds that took over government election offices to make blue areas of swing states vote more Democratic, more Democrat Party?
[00:22:37]  All of these things.
[00:22:38]  Like, was it a protest about those things that got out of hand, or was it the worst moment in human history?
[00:22:43]  And Tucker, by showing some of this footage that is at odds with the official narrative, as Mitch McConnell says, helps people realize that it's the reaction to the January 6th event and riot, you know, when nobody supports riot, riotous behavior or violence like this, the political violence, but was the reaction to it where people's free speech was limited, freedom of the press was limited, where lawyers can't represent these clients, where if you do represent a client, you might get a disbarment effort,
[00:23:11]  where all this type of hysteria is also part of the conversation.
[00:23:15]  And now it really is part of the conversation.
[00:23:17]  And that's why this is so important.
[00:23:20]  That's exactly right.
[00:23:22]  And we have some tape here.
[00:23:25]  Cut 60, Corine Jean-Pierre.
[00:23:28]  The president has been clear.
[00:23:30]  This was the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War.
[00:23:34]  Worse than Pearl Harbor.
[00:23:35]  It's amazing.
[00:23:36]  And we should be focused on making sure that never happens again.
[00:23:40]  It's amazing.
[00:23:41]  It's the first insurrection in world history where the occupying force gives tours to the wannabe insurrectionists.
[00:23:49]  It's a really new concept.
[00:23:50]  Play Cut 60.
[00:23:52]  The president has been very clear.
[00:23:54]  January 6th was the worst attack in our democracy since the Civil War.
[00:23:58]  And we should be focused on making sure that never happens again.
[00:24:02]  And again, it was one of the darkest days of our democracy.
[00:24:05]  And all you have to do is watch those videos and see how horrific it was.
[00:24:10]  See how sad it was.
[00:24:11]  See an attack on the Capitol.
[00:24:14]  And we got to get down to the bottom of what happened.
[00:24:17]  Again, it was an attack on our democracy.
[00:24:19]  And I'll just leave it there.
[00:24:21]  Wait, We got to watch videos, Molly.
[00:24:24]  You just got to watch the videos.
[00:24:27]  But we were actually watching cherry-picked edited videos this entire time.
[00:24:31]  Well, what's amazing here is that Tucker Carlson made very specific, he raised very specific issues related to video, which I agree with Corinne John Pierre.
[00:24:41]  You just have to watch the video and then you can ask your questions yourself.
[00:24:45]  But these were specific claims made, such as that, you know, Buffalo Hat guy was given a tour sort of of the Capitol interior where nine different police officers could have easily arrested him and nobody was even trying.
[00:25:00]  They were opening up locked doors for him or trying to, you know, giving him tours of the chamber.
[00:25:04]  So you notice Queen John Pierre nor anyone else responds in substance to this video.
[00:25:09]  She just sort of waves her hand around and says, you're not allowed to watch that video.
[00:25:13]  Watch the videos that we cherry-picked for you.
[00:25:15]  Or the claim about Josh Hawley actually being part of an evacuation effort that was not just for him.
[00:25:20]  Nobody's responding to that in substance.
[00:25:23]  They want to use the deceptively edited clip to go after him for political reasons.
[00:25:28]  Or, you know, one of the more important things too was that that mysterious protester, Ray Epps, who's on video telling people that they have to enter the Capitol building, that they need to go in there, but has somehow been viewed as an ally of Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger and Nancy Pelosi.
[00:25:42]  They have evidence that he was not where he said he was when he gave it, sent a text saying that he was responsible for the protest.
[00:25:50]  Now, what's the substantive response to that?
[00:25:52]  If you instead say, Tucker Carlson is dangerous for showing this evidence, but you don't respond to the substance, that is very suspicious, in my view.
[00:26:03]  That's right.
[00:26:06]  The heated exchange between the Democrat Party and Matt Taibbi is something, Molly, I'm curious, how and when?
[00:26:13]  When is my actually more important part of the question?
[00:26:16]  When did the Democrats become the party of censorship?
[00:26:20]  When did this happen?
[00:26:21]  I think it was a slow, it's been a long time coming and it's sort of, but it happened slowly.
[00:26:27]  It's shocking to watch right now.
[00:26:29]  They're against every aspect of the First Amendment, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion.
[00:26:35]  They don't want people even having access to information to be able to determine truth, which is basically the most important founding American principle out there, probably.
[00:26:44]  And yet they started going against some of these things in recent decades.
[00:26:50]  And the more they got control over the institutions, the more important it became for them to exert that control by limiting people's speech and press rights.
[00:26:58]  Yeah, and it's just been fascinating to see because one of their big complaints against Donald Trump is that he was an enemy of the press or that he was against free speech.
[00:27:08]  But free speech has never been a left-wing value.
[00:27:11]  It's been a liberal value, but it's never been critical to the American left.
[00:27:16]  In fact, they've always been annoyed by speech they do not like.
[00:27:19]  I want to play some tape here from some of that exchange with Matt Taibbi.
[00:27:23]  And they're doing everything they possibly can to go after Elon Musk.
[00:27:28]  It is a focused campaign to try to go after Elon Musk and to try to cancel him.
[00:27:34]  Let's play Cut 97, please.
[00:27:36]  Well, conclusion is that he is, in fact, your source.
[00:27:38]  Well, you're free to conclude that.
[00:27:40]  Well, sir, I just don't understand.
[00:27:42]  You can't have it both ways, but let's move on.
[00:27:44]  No, he can.
[00:27:45]  He's a journalist.
[00:27:46]  No, he can't because either Musk is the source and he can't talk about it, or Musk is not the source.
[00:27:51]  And if Musk is not the source, then he can discuss.
[00:27:54]  No one has yielded.
[00:27:54]  The gentlelady is out of order.
[00:27:55]  You don't get to speak out of it.
[00:27:57]  The gentle lady is not recognized.
[00:27:58]  The gentle lady is not recognized.
[00:27:59]  You're not recognizing Mike Taibby.
[00:28:01]  He has not said that.
[00:28:02]  I don't know.
[00:28:02]  What he has said is he's not going to reveal his source.
[00:28:04]  And the fact that Democrats are pressuring him to do so is such a time.
[00:28:08]  We're asking him about his conversations with Musk.
[00:28:10]  The gentlelady has not yielded you time.
[00:28:12]  It's kind of hard to track all that.
[00:28:13]  But Molly, here they are calling Taibbi a so-called journalist, asking him to reveal his sources.
[00:28:21]  This is an extraordinary political development.
[00:28:23]  You know, people would say that when President Trump criticized shoddy media, that that was a threat on the First Amendment.
[00:28:31]  And here you have actual sitting members of Congress trying to bully someone into revealing a source that doesn't even need, I mean, there's not really like a national security or other reason that you can even pretend to justify it somehow.
[00:28:45]  They're attacking, they're supporting the government's role in suppressing journalism or censoring actual journalistic stories or news outlets or discussion of journalistic stories.
[00:29:00]  They have actual attacks on the press.
[00:29:02]  And you have, you know, what the FTC is doing with trying to get Elon Musk to reveal any journalists he spoke to.
[00:29:08]  And boy, the media are super silent about all this.
[00:29:12]  They said a critique of bad journalism.
[00:29:14]  Like you make up a story and someone gets mad at you.
[00:29:17]  That's an attack on journalism.
[00:29:19]  But actual attacks on journalism are not attacks on journalism.

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