The Charlie Kirk Show - Building the Parallel Economy with Michael Seifert, Donald Trump Jr., and John Solomon
Aired: 2023-03-04
Duration: 33:44


=== Building a Parallel Economy (10:10) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey, everybody.
[00:00:00]  Today on the Charlie Kirk show, Public Square.
[00:00:03]  What are they?
[00:00:03]  What are they trying to accomplish?
[00:00:04]  Where they are going public, and Michael Seifert walks us through the attempt to build a parallel economy.
[00:00:09]  I'm rooting for them.
[00:00:10]  That's for sure.
[00:00:11]  And then Don Jr. joins us to update us about his fight with PNC.
[00:00:16]  And then John Solomon is very bullish on this current whistleblower investigation against Joe Biden.
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[00:01:21]  We need to build a parallel economy.
[00:01:24]  We've talked about that for quite some time.
[00:01:26]  Need to build a parallel economy.
[00:01:27]  Need to be the parallel economy.
[00:01:29]  Build a parallel economy.
[00:01:30]  But there is one company that is actually doing it, and they have an extraordinarily exciting announcement.
[00:01:37]  And joining us now is a friend of mine, someone who's a great American patriot, a visionary entrepreneur, Michael Seifert.
[00:01:44]  And he is behind Public Square that has a very big announcement.
[00:01:49]  Michael, welcome to the program.
[00:01:50]  Thanks for having me, Charlie.
[00:01:51]  Good to see you.
[00:01:52]  Michael, share the good news with our audience and walk us through what is Public Square and what to you, what do you hope to achieve?
[00:01:58]  Well, thanks for asking.
[00:02:00]  First of all, we have created the largest network of patriotic businesses and consumers the country has ever seen.
[00:02:06]  We were hungry for a parallel economy.
[00:02:08]  We were tired of just complaining about it.
[00:02:09]  So we actually created one.
[00:02:11]  And today, less than eight months after our national launch, we are the largest network with hundreds of thousands of active member consumers and tens of thousands of businesses that are all aligned in their values so that there's trust as a part of every single transaction.
[00:02:25]  This week, we had a major announcement.
[00:02:27]  We are going public.
[00:02:29]  We are accompanied by the people, for the people, and soon we get to be owned by we the people.
[00:02:35]  And so there's a great company, a SPAC, that's currently public called CLBR that is taking us public.
[00:02:40]  It's a fantastic team that's like-minded in our values.
[00:02:43]  And we're really looking forward to this because we've been a company that's been so grassroots built.
[00:02:47]  It's been we the people that have built this.
[00:02:49]  It's the only way that it's worked to date.
[00:02:50]  We were a bunch of average people that just cared enough to do something.
[00:02:54]  And now this company gets to be owned by average Americans that just want to support companies that do not hate them, that will help put purpose behind their purchase so that they can actually change the country with the power of their wallet.
[00:03:06]  That's the best testimony we ever hear, Charlie, is when people say, I feel like I'm changing the country by purchasing a cup of coffee differently from this app where I get incentive to spend money in alignment with our values.
[00:03:16]  So it's been a wild ride so far, but I can confidently tell you we are just getting started.
[00:03:22]  And so what are the values of public square then?
[00:03:24]  Because I mean, I can go example after example.
[00:03:27]  In fact, let's play one here because instead of you telling me your values, let's just tell you, let's just see what they are not.
[00:03:34]  Where's the Hershey chocolate?
[00:03:36]  Have you seen this Hershey chocolate thing?
[00:03:37]  Yeah.
[00:03:38]  And it's absurd.
[00:03:39]  It's really unbelievable.
[00:03:40]  We have it.
[00:03:41]  We have Cut 111.
[00:03:42]  Okay.
[00:03:42]  So I don't think Public Square will ever have men masquerading as women promoting their products.
[00:03:49]  Play Cut 111.
[00:03:51]  My name is Paige Onstone.
[00:03:52]  I'm the executive director of Wisdom to Action.
[00:03:55]  We can create a world where everyone is able to live in public space as their honest and authentic selves.
[00:04:02]  See the woman changing how we see the future at Hershey's Canada.
[00:04:06]  So that's one of probably a million examples of why you're doing what you're doing.
[00:04:10]  Why is Hershey Chocolate having people that are under a transgender delusion promoting their sugary chocolate?
[00:04:18]  I'm confused.
[00:04:18]  Because they're scared.
[00:04:20]  They are scared of the woke mob coming after them.
[00:04:23]  They don't actually believe that.
[00:04:24]  The reality is the CEO of Hershey's, there is not one single iota of his being that actually believes that that commercial speaks to any semblance of reality.
[00:04:34]  The only reason they're doing it is because there was some DEI officer at some rank of the company that said that this will help them win amongst a certain demographic that will roast them unless they puppet the message of the regime of the day.
[00:04:47]  And so the reality is what companies like Hershey's need to learn is that the last emerging market in the world and a major, major market is the 100 million plus American consumers that are traditionally valued.
[00:05:01]  They love this country.
[00:05:02]  They love their freedoms.
[00:05:03]  They believe in biological gender, the reality that there is man and there is woman.
[00:05:09]  They believe in truth and they're tired of being lectured by companies when they're just trying to buy a chocolate bar.
[00:05:14]  And so what we've done is we've provided a marketplace where sanity wins.
[00:05:18]  And in the process, not only is it very lucrative for the business owners because they're seeing their profits burst from consumers that are values driven to go there, it's also really liberating because there's a marketplace that embraces reality, embraces truth.
[00:05:32]  And we're not trying to pick fights with anyone.
[00:05:33]  We are simply running in this lane.
[00:05:35]  They're the ones that picked this battles.
[00:05:37]  They kept telling us for years, go build your own, go build your own.
[00:05:40]  So we did.
[00:05:41]  We built our own and it's thriving.
[00:05:43]  There are multiple chocolate companies on the app, actually.
[00:05:45]  And this week has been a very good week.
[00:05:47]  Yeah, I see a couple of them on the front page of the website.
[00:05:49]  And the app, just so everyone knows, it's Public SQ.
[00:05:52]  Is that how you find it in the app store?
[00:05:53]  Is that right?
[00:05:55]  Yep, absolutely.
[00:05:56]  You can search Public SQ.
[00:05:57]  If you search Public Square, we'll still show up first, or you can head to publicsq.com to get started.
[00:06:01]  You'll also see our five values on that page.
[00:06:04]  And so, you know, we'll you'll see right underneath our values, it says pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom.
[00:06:09]  Our mission guides everything we do.
[00:06:11]  And businesses you find on public square are values aligned by design.
[00:06:13]  And so we have five values.
[00:06:14]  We're united in our commitment to freedom and truth.
[00:06:17]  That's what makes us Americans.
[00:06:18]  Truth, truth, objective truth.
[00:06:21]  Number two, we will always protect the family unit and celebrate the sanctity of every life.
[00:06:25]  Number three, we believe small businesses and the communities who support them are the backbone of our economy.
[00:06:29]  We are fundamentally anti-globalist.
[00:06:32]  We believe in a local economy.
[00:06:33]  We believe in an American economy.
[00:06:35]  Number four, we believe in the greatness of this nation and will always fight to defend it.
[00:06:39]  We are nationalists at our core in the sense that we believe that the United States should take care of itself before it worries about the world because the best way we can actually serve the world is by serving as an example of what a healthy nation state looks like.
[00:06:52]  And then finally, number five, our constitution is non-negotiable.
[00:06:55]  Government is not the source of our rights, so it cannot take them away.
[00:06:58]  And so when businesses sign up, they see those values and they say that they're going to respect those values.
[00:07:03]  They're not going to spend time, money, or resource antagonistically against them.
[00:07:06]  And they're off to the races connected to hundreds of thousands of consumers that are excited to put purpose behind them.
[00:07:11]  I think you're just touching the surface here because what you're also trying to do, Michael, and build this out, we have a couple minutes, is you're trying to change the incentive structure, which I think is the most brilliant part of what you're doing.
[00:07:23]  And it's not as clear on the surface because right now there is an incentive to be woke.
[00:07:31]  The incentive is that you don't have these crazy people shouting at you and calling for your resignation.
[00:07:35]  We call it the woke excise tax.
[00:07:37]  You know, Goldman, Hershey, BlackRock, they would much rather just pay $10 to $15 million to some trans nonprofit.
[00:07:48]  And then they feel as if that's just their penance that protects them.
[00:07:52]  What you're trying to say, though, is no, actually, we want to make an incentive.
[00:07:56]  We want to create a reward if you are pro-American.
[00:08:01]  That's absolutely right.
[00:08:02]  We're actually trying to shift who wins in our economy because for far too long, the DEI ESG crowd has won at the massive corporate level.
[00:08:10]  And it was really sad during COVID.
[00:08:12]  There was a great example of this.
[00:08:14]  You saw some major corporate entities like Walmart and Amazon preaching about the need for further lockdowns.
[00:08:21]  Meanwhile, the small businesses that couldn't lobby the government were locked down and they had no say in the matter and they were deemed non-essential.
[00:08:29]  And so we're actually trying to rewrite the script here.
[00:08:31]  We're trying to tell people a loud and clear message.
[00:08:35]  Small businesses in this country that love their freedoms, love the liberties and the rights endowed by our creator, these unalienable rights, these businesses will actually win in the long run.
[00:08:44]  We ran a market survey, Charlie, in 27 states when we got started.
[00:08:48]  When I originally had this idea, we asked a few hundred consumers from around the country just to kind of test our idea.
[00:08:54]  We said, how many of you, all of which were conservative, but they all came from different socioeconomic backgrounds, how many of you would drive 10 minutes farther or spend 10% more if you knew that every dollar you were spending was in alignment with your values?
[00:09:06]  98% of our consumers said yes.
[00:09:09]  And so the beauty of what happens here, amen, amen.
[00:09:12]  The beauty of what happens here, Charlie, is that not only will the right businesses win, the ones that have stood up for the freedoms of each and every consumer and has refused to infringe upon the rights or the values of literally 100 plus million Americans that are consumer age.
[00:09:28]  Not only is that the case, but also we will send a very clear message to the Starbucks of the world, the targets of the world, the Walmarts of the world, the Disneys of the world, the Amazons of the world, the PayPals of the world, the PNC banks of the world that we're done.
[00:09:40]  Yep.
[00:09:41]  Done with their system.
[00:09:42]  We're unsubscribing.
[00:09:43]  And we found a parallel economy that will embrace us for who we are.
[00:09:46]  Their power has been that we do not have an escape pod.
[00:09:51]  We have not been able to disconnect from their sources.
[00:09:55]  They're able to be awful to us because like, oh, where are you going to go?
[00:10:00]  Like, actually, you know, we'll start to be able to go to Rumble.
[00:10:03]  We'll go to public square.
[00:10:04]  Like, we'll start new companies.
[00:10:06]  And yeah, you know, it's not going to be the same size as Coca-Cola out of the gate.

=== Escaping the Consolidated System (07:48) ===

[00:10:10]  It's not going to be the same size as Goldman.
[00:10:12]  But honestly, the advantage will be in the agility that we don't have to have the corporate overhead of Coca-Cola.
[00:10:20]  I'm telling you, it's going to be bad for business to be woke.
[00:10:24]  It already is.
[00:10:25]  And these companies, it's going to start to affect their bottom line.
[00:10:29]  I can't wait for it.
[00:10:29]  Companies that have strong values are going to thrive in this upcoming economic catastrophic recession.
[00:10:39]  Look, it is time to consider a rollover of that 401k into an IRA.
[00:10:44]  The investment world is completely different in 2023, and you cannot do the same thing as last year.
[00:10:49]  Woke companies are aggressively implementing ESG.
[00:10:54]  Interest rates are going up and inflation is still lingering.
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[00:11:06]  I just got to report it's up 12% since last year.
[00:11:09]  And that's while everyone else is down.
[00:11:11]  No joke.
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[00:11:37]  So Michael, a question we got, Michael from Public Square, by the way, download the app.
[00:11:41]  Charlie, can you ask Michael, what sectors or industries do you think are most missing from the parallel economy?
[00:11:47]  How can we fill in the gaps?
[00:11:48]  That's a really good question, Michael.
[00:11:49]  What are your thoughts?
[00:11:50]  That is a fantastic question.
[00:11:51]  It's actually something that we've recently polled our consumers.
[00:11:54]  We've asked them hundreds of thousands of them: what's the hardest thing to find?
[00:11:58]  Where do you feel like there's the greatest lack?
[00:12:00]  Some of the common answers are financial services.
[00:12:02]  So, for example, Visa, MasterCard, Discover, those are sort of the big three.
[00:12:06]  And it's very difficult to have alternatives to them.
[00:12:09]  Other industries that are difficult to find alternatives to are things like insurance.
[00:12:14]  We have a lot of people asking for alternatives to PayPal, and there are some that are fast emerging.
[00:12:19]  The good news is, is that there are not no answers to these questions.
[00:12:24]  There are not zero alternatives.
[00:12:26]  Some of them are actually being built currently, or they're a little bit smaller.
[00:12:30]  So sometimes they take a little bit of inconvenience in order to get them up to speed.
[00:12:34]  But I would cite Rumble as a great case study of what would happen when we actually support a company from its early stages that is trying to be an alternative to one of the big boys.
[00:12:44]  You'll find that over time, as more and more people adopt and they put up with maybe a little bit less features than YouTube, you're going to find that the platform today, Rumble, can do everything YouTube can do.
[00:12:55]  And the audience there is exploding.
[00:12:57]  So I would tell people, especially whoever asked this question, it's a great one.
[00:13:02]  Don't let any sort of lack stop you from starting somewhere.
[00:13:05]  People ask all the time, well, we have iPhones and Google phones.
[00:13:08]  And so what's the point?
[00:13:09]  Like they already just have too much of us.
[00:13:11]  Like it just, it's not going to ever work to have this parallel economy.
[00:13:14]  Our answer is a simple rebuttal.
[00:13:16]  If you don't start somewhere, we'll never take over Apple.
[00:13:20]  But if you start somewhere, who knows what might happen?
[00:13:23]  Because you're going to continue to consolidate funds and capital into this parallel economy that will grow on itself.
[00:13:28]  It'll compound.
[00:13:29]  So you can actually help create a new iPhone one day by purchasing a cup of coffee from someone that doesn't hate you, from buying a new pair of clothes from someone that doesn't hate you, by using Rumble instead of YouTube.
[00:13:41]  And you'll find that over time, this is a long game.
[00:13:43]  The left understands that, by the way, they know it's a long game and they've been planning for this for 30, 40 years.
[00:13:48]  We have to have that same mentality.
[00:13:49]  We have to have the long game in mind.
[00:13:50]  I'm doing this for my daughter, Charlie.
[00:13:52]  I know you're doing it for your kid too, right?
[00:13:55]  It's the reason we're doing this.
[00:13:56]  It's why we have the long game longevity focused fight in mind.
[00:14:01]  I will say confidently that I believe 20, 30 years from now, there will be massive, massive companies doing phenomenal work with the principles of American enterprise at the core of their being because regular patriots today in 2023 stepped up and for their daily consumer purchases to the best of their ability spent money in alignment with their values.
[00:14:23]  Yeah.
[00:14:23]  And they, this is what they fear the most.
[00:14:25]  This is why they're trying to take out Rumble.
[00:14:27]  Rumble is going to succeed and Rumble has successfully de-specced.
[00:14:32]  So tell us, Michael, are you going to get actually into consumer products too?
[00:14:36]  I mean, what is the goal?
[00:14:37]  What can you share publicly about that?
[00:14:39]  That's a great question, Charlie.
[00:14:40]  Glad you asked.
[00:14:41]  I will tell you that the long-term vision of Public Square is that the app would exist as an ecosystem where businesses and consumers could gather together.
[00:14:48]  Majority of the businesses on the platform will actually give you discounts for shopping there.
[00:14:52]  So you can receive incentive for spending money in alignment with your values.
[00:14:55]  We then use our search bar to understand what are consumers looking for?
[00:15:00]  What are the products that are most popular to them?
[00:15:02]  We then use that data.
[00:15:03]  We go out to the market and we figure out where there are no good alternatives, and then we actually create our own alternatives and sell them back into the market so that we have alternatives in the spaces where they don't currently exist.
[00:15:15]  And we're able to do it with better margins than our competitors because we already have the customer acquisition channel built into the model.
[00:15:21]  So, yes, the short answer is absolutely consumer products are in our future.
[00:15:27]  And to the person's question from earlier, we are paying close attention to where there are no alternatives for how we might be able to fulfill those needs.
[00:15:34]  Yeah, there, and there's some kind of openings that I think people would be surprised where there's been some stealthy monopolization activity where all of a sudden you look around, you're like, wow, every company at my choice that I have to choose from, it's like four companies, and they all are against my values.
[00:15:52]  And it could be anything from, I don't know, like, toothpaste to just stuff like that, where you wouldn't really think, like, wow, okay, Gillette, which you know is obviously into razors and also shaving green.
[00:16:04]  By the way, be careful what kind of shaving cream you use.
[00:16:06]  That's a separate issue because of all the chemicals and garbage.
[00:16:09]  But they are some of the big trans push, like Gillette is huge in the trans thing.
[00:16:14]  And obviously, they're a multi-multi-multi-billion dollar enterprise.
[00:16:18]  So, in closing here, Michael, remind our audience: what is the public ticker symbol?
[00:16:23]  And then, how can they individually download the app again?
[00:16:26]  Yeah, thanks for asking, Charlie.
[00:16:27]  The public ticker symbol of the SPAC is CLBR, Columbia Acquisition Corp.
[00:16:32]  The best way to get started on your public square journey is publicsq.com.
[00:16:36]  You can there find information about our values, where we're from.
[00:16:40]  You can create an account, you can sign up.
[00:16:41]  You can also direct to the app store or to Google Play if you'd prefer to use it in the mobile environment.
[00:16:45]  PublicSQ.com, best place to get started.
[00:16:48]  Ticket symbol CLBR.
[00:16:49]  Charlie, thank you so much for having me on.
[00:16:51]  You bet, Michael, keep fighting, and we have to build this parallel economy.
[00:16:53]  Thank you.
[00:16:54]  Amen.
[00:16:54]  Thank you.
[00:16:58]  Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.
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=== Protecting Parental Rights in Schools (04:50) ===

[00:17:59]  Let's go to cut 74: the new parents' Bill of Rights being introduced in the House of Representatives, play cut 74.
[00:18:08]  This bill by Julia Letlow kind of sits on five main pillars: the right to know what's being taught in the school, and for you to be able to see the reading materials, right?
[00:18:22]  The right to be heard, the right to ski the school budgets and how they spend their money, the right to protect your child's privacy, and the right to be updated on any violent activity at the school.
[00:18:38]  How is any of this even remotely controversial?
[00:18:43]  The right to know what's being taught in your local public school, the right to be heard, the right to see school budgets, the right to protect your child's privacy, and the right to be updated on violent activity.
[00:18:56]  And yet, there will be Democrats that vote against this.
[00:19:01]  There will be Democrats that vote against this.
[00:19:03]  This shows the Parents' Party has strength, and we need to lean in on that.
[00:19:08]  That this idea of the Parents' Party can transcend demographic lines, income lines, political lines.
[00:19:17]  Parents do not want to have their kids go to crummy schools.
[00:19:21]  It happens time and time and time again.
[00:19:25]  And so the Republicans in Congress are trying to put forward a very focused piece of legislation saying we want transparency in curriculum.
[00:19:37]  We want to be able to be heard and have our voice actually be platformed.
[00:19:43]  We want to be able to see your school's budgets.
[00:19:47]  And we want to protect your child's privacy and they want to be updated on violent activity.
[00:19:52]  Now, typically, I'm not a big fan of more federal regulation and all that, but isn't it interesting that with all of the Department of Education activity they have, that this is still not required out of government-funded taxpayer schools, the ability to be able to know what your kids are actually being taught.
[00:20:13]  Do you understand how difficult it is to get just transparent answers from local school districts on whether or not there is pornography in eight-year-olds' curriculum, whether or not they're learning critical race theory, whether or not they're learning elements of critical race theory?
[00:20:30]  And so the Republicans in Congress are fulfilling an election mandate.
[00:20:34]  And I believe in 2024, crime should be right up there.
[00:20:39]  But leaning in on a parent's right to be informed about what's happening in their local school is a political winner, and it is especially a political winner.
[00:20:50]  I believe in the Hispanic and the black community.
[00:20:53]  Upper-middle-class whites seem somewhat interested in this topic, but I'll be honest, just being in Chicago, the North Shore, Highland Park, they don't seem that fired up about what's going on in their schools.
[00:21:04]  They just seem to be perfectly fine with it.
[00:21:06]  But I do not believe, and I refuse to believe, that working-class Hispanics across the country will be thrilled to learn that their seven-year-olds are being taught that men can become pregnant.
[00:21:22]  That is not a popular proposition in lower-income minority neighborhoods.
[00:21:29]  And so, in some ways, this idea of education, which always used to be a Democrat issue, education always used to be an issue that Democrats would poll double digits better than Republicans.
[00:21:41]  This is a particular moment in time where Republicans can seize this because these schools have become grooming and indoctrination factories, where the most sinister ideas you can imagine are being put through there.
[00:21:54]  I mean, one example here in Arizona, I was just reading this the other day, it's unbelievable, where you have this Scott Menzel, who is the Scottsdale Unified School District superintendent, where he said, This is a quote.
[00:22:08]  He said, the white race is problematic and meritocracy is a lie.
[00:22:15]  That is a direct quote.
[00:22:16]  He is the superintendent of schools in Scottsdale, saying that the white race is problematic.
[00:22:26]  The idea of working hard, merit, is a lie.
[00:22:31]  Man, these are such destructive ideas.
[00:22:34]  And he's not just some fringe teacher.
[00:22:36]  He's not just some sort of school counselor.
[00:22:39]  He's the superintendent of the entire Scottsdale Unified School District.
[00:22:46]  That's very troubling, isn't it?

=== Exposing Destructive School Ideas (10:54) ===

[00:22:50]  And it's not just isolated in that regard.
[00:22:52]  We're seeing these ideas again grow and strengthen like tumors.
[00:22:58]  And they have to be removed.
[00:22:59]  And the parents are the last and the best hope to be able to address it.
[00:23:03]  And the Democrats and the left, they are so unbelievably nervous about it.
[00:23:07]  They're nervous that this might actually be a pivot issue.
[00:23:13]  Now, you may be very frustrated with national politics, but you can get engaged in local communities and school boards.
[00:23:20]  Do not allow your community to have schools that evolve and transform into Marxist boot camps.
[00:23:27]  You still have that power.
[00:23:30]  You still are able to do that.
[00:23:34]  And what the Democrats have been able to do for the last 20 or 30 years is intimidate parents.
[00:23:44]  And just the amount of evidence that we could play on this program of one after the other after the other of schools that have gone so far off, they're off track.
[00:23:54]  But parents can successfully reclaim that.
[00:24:00]  But you have to have the right attitude.
[00:24:03]  Doesn't matter what names they throw at you.
[00:24:04]  It doesn't matter if they try to intimidate you or smear you or slander you.
[00:24:08]  All those things they are going to do.
[00:24:13]  Joining us now is Donald Trump Jr., who's experienced his own version of cancel culture, the cancel and then uncancellation.
[00:24:19]  Don, welcome back to the program.
[00:24:22]  Good to be with you, Charlie.
[00:24:23]  How's it going, man?
[00:24:24]  It's going great.
[00:24:24]  Great speech at CPAC.
[00:24:26]  Tell us about your situation in the last day and a half with PNC Bank.
[00:24:31]  It's very interesting.
[00:24:33]  Oh, it's crazy.
[00:24:34]  I mean, again, and if you think, you know, a guy like me with a pretty big platform and decent credit, we have MXM News.
[00:24:41]  I know I've talked about it on your show that me, some friends, we put together a news aggregation app.
[00:24:47]  We were sick of people not seeing, you know, important stories, like Hunter Biden laptop, Wuhan Lab Week as a possible theory for the few years.
[00:24:56]  And so we put together an app that gathers news from all over the place.
[00:24:59]  We have the New York Times down there.
[00:25:00]  We have left leading stations.
[00:25:01]  We have right leading stations, but we see it all.
[00:25:03]  And we had an account.
[00:25:04]  Our operating account was at PNC Bank.
[00:25:08]  And Taylor Butterwich, who you know and his partner in the deal, he goes to check our operating account one morning and there's nothing in it.
[00:25:14]  And he calls me like, we got bad news.
[00:25:15]  I think we got hacked and they stole $750,000 out of the operating account.
[00:25:19]  And he calls the bank immediately after speaking to me.
[00:25:22]  And, oh, yeah, sorry, there's a FedEx on the way to you with a cashier's check for the entire amount.
[00:25:28]  We decided to close out your account.
[00:25:30]  No, no reasoning.
[00:25:33]  Didn't even bother to give us a phone call.
[00:25:34]  And this is PNC Bank.
[00:25:35]  I mean, this is a major national bank.
[00:25:38]  Just decided that, I guess, someone who's willing to show people both sides of the news, not even writing our own, that that was enough.
[00:25:44]  So, you know, I got pretty upset about that.
[00:25:47]  You know, got on social and a bunch of people from the MAGA movement and big conservatives started tweeting about it.
[00:25:53]  You were one of those, Charlie.
[00:25:54]  So I appreciate that because we have to highlight the attack that is going on on conservatives on a daily basis.
[00:26:01]  They don't think we should be able to bank.
[00:26:03]  There is a social credit system that's happening right now.
[00:26:06]  And if we're going to wake up one day, if we don't get active and involved and push back and find out that, hey, we'll be locked out of your Tesla because they didn't like what you said and they're going to deem you parked for the next week or two weeks or months or ever.
[00:26:20]  And this wasn't a phenomenon while Trump was in office.
[00:26:24]  It continues to happen.
[00:26:25]  And again, if they can do it to a guy like me, who can't they do it to?
[00:26:29]  And more importantly, who won't they do it to?
[00:26:31]  I mean, it's not like they're naive that I don't have a platform to actually fight back or numerous.
[00:26:36]  But the average American, a bank doesn't like that you actually also distributed some conservative content from, say, Breitbart News or the Charlie Kirk show.
[00:26:47]  That was deemed enough to be like, we just, we wouldn't even think about doing business with you from TNC Bank.
[00:26:52]  That's a real problem in America right now.
[00:26:54]  So, you know, so much of what I've been talking about, even for the last year, it worked out so interestingly because my good friend Michael Seifert, who's taking Public Square, his company that aggregates all of the businesses that are willing to sign on and say, hey, we believe in free speech.
[00:27:07]  We believe in these conservative values.
[00:27:09]  Like literally the week he's taking Public Square public was the week that PNC Bank tried canceling me and my news app to be able to show both sides of the story.
[00:27:20]  And it's why we have to be engaged in that battlefield, Charlie.
[00:27:24]  We have to be voting with our wallets.
[00:27:26]  We have to take the time, you know, download the Public Square app.
[00:27:30]  Find a business that shares your values.
[00:27:32]  You know, the coffee shop, the law firm, the doctor, whatever it is.
[00:27:37]  Give them your money because if you don't, these other people will function with reckless abandon.
[00:27:42]  They will cancel you at all costs.
[00:27:44]  And it's only going to get worse if we don't act now and support those who believe what we believe.
[00:27:49]  Well said.
[00:27:50]  Don, I know you got to run.
[00:27:50]  You're at CPAC.
[00:27:51]  Thanks for taking the time.
[00:27:52]  We're behind you.
[00:27:53]  Thank you, Don.
[00:27:54]  Thank you, Charlie.
[00:27:57]  I want to tell you guys about COVID tax relief.
[00:28:00]  COVID Tax Relief is an amazing service that exists for you because of Washington, D.C.'s addiction to overspending.
[00:28:09]  Again, I'm not a fan that this money exists or that's out there or that it's available, but as they say, it is what it is.
[00:28:15]  Look, COVIDTaxRelief.org got a small retail business, almost $80,000.
[00:28:20]  COVIDTaxRelief.org got a manufacturing business, nearly $250,000.
[00:28:24]  COVIDTaxRelief.org got a large distribution business, almost $900,000.
[00:28:29]  If you run a business, church or nonprofit, and paid your employees through all or part of the pandemic, you could qualify for up to $26,000 per employee through the Government Cares Act.
[00:28:39]  COVIDtaxRelief.org receives a low commission, very reasonable, only after you receive the money.
[00:28:43]  So go to covidtaxrelief.org.
[00:28:45]  That is covidtaxrelief.org, covidtaxrelief.org.
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[00:28:55]  Let's play a piece of tape here.
[00:28:57]  Play cut six, Joe Biden on the pandemic.
[00:29:00]  Play cut six.
[00:29:01]  So I think things are a little out of whack, and I don't blame people for being down.
[00:29:05]  You know, when you had a year, two years of the pandemic, kids out of school, the mental health problems in the country are seriously increased, especially among young people.
[00:29:17]  Inflation is still higher than it should be.
[00:29:20]  And, you know, everything from gasoline prices to a war going on in Ukraine.
[00:29:26]  I mean, so I can't think of a time when there's been greater uncertainty.
[00:29:31]  We're better off than virtually any other major nation in the world economically.
[00:29:35]  But it's understandable why people are just down.
[00:29:39]  There's a way to edit that video, Ryan, where it says Joe Biden brags about his accomplishments and he just goes to the whole thing.
[00:29:46]  Inflation is still higher, it should be, gasoline prices, war in Ukraine, mental health problems.
[00:29:52]  Yeah, it's on you, pal.
[00:29:53]  You've been in office now for over two years.
[00:29:56]  You've hit the two-year mark.
[00:29:59]  It's not anybody else's fault but your own.
[00:30:02]  But you know what Joe Biden should be worried about?
[00:30:04]  And he probably is?
[00:30:06]  The fact that a key Hunter Biden associate is cooperating with Congress.
[00:30:10]  John Salomon has a story.
[00:30:11]  John, welcome to the program.
[00:30:12]  Congratulations on the big scoop.
[00:30:14]  Thank you.
[00:30:15]  Good to be with you, Charlie.
[00:30:16]  Congratulations on your great show as well.
[00:30:18]  Yeah, Eric Schwerin, very important.
[00:30:19]  He's the guy between Joe Biden and Hunter Biden on all the business deals starting back in 2010.
[00:30:25]  He started cooperating with James Comer last week.
[00:30:27]  A very big development in the investigation.
[00:30:30]  Yeah, so just we have a couple minutes.
[00:30:32]  You know, John, I know it's kind of a circus over there.
[00:30:34]  I love it.
[00:30:35]  Just walk through some of the details of the significance of this.
[00:30:38]  Please continue.
[00:30:40]  Yeah.
[00:30:41]  Yeah, it's really important.
[00:30:42]  So in 2010, when Joe Biden wants to start thinking about how can I make money in the private sector while I'm still vice president, he has a conversation with Schwerwin.
[00:30:50]  Schwerwin emails Hunter Biden.
[00:30:52]  Got to start thinking about your dad's earning potential.
[00:30:54]  That's what sets in motion all those foreign deals, China, Russia, Ukraine, that conversation.
[00:31:00]  Now, for the longest time, the Biden said we never commingled our finances.
[00:31:03]  There's an email in 2010 where Eric Schwerwin says, hey, I did help you do your dad's taxes.
[00:31:08]  He owes you money.
[00:31:10]  I'm going to deposit his Delaware check into your bank account.
[00:31:13]  Commingled finances.
[00:31:14]  We were told that was a conspiracy theory.
[00:31:16]  We know that to be true.
[00:31:17]  In 2015, as the effort by the Biden family accelerated to go get China money, Eric Schwerwin is in the middle of Hunter Biden and CEFC, the China energy company that ultimately gave the Biden family $5 million in an interest-free, forgivable loan, and a very large rock, a diamond that we all would know about now.
[00:31:36]  Eric Schwerin was in the middle of that.
[00:31:38]  He can connect the dots on most of the major foreign business deals that Hunter and Joe Biden were involved in.
[00:31:45]  This is huge.
[00:31:46]  And really, this is less about Hunter and it really is about Joe Biden, isn't it?
[00:31:51]  And so, look, I mean, John, exactly what.
[00:31:54]  Can you just give me or the audience any assurance in about a minute and a half that they're not going to mess this up the way Trey Gowdy messed up the Benghazi investigation?
[00:32:05]  Listen, we just had James Comer on the show.
[00:32:07]  He talked exactly how they're going to pursue this.
[00:32:09]  We're going to stay focused on James Comer or on Joe Biden.
[00:32:13]  We're not going to get distracted by all the little circus things that Democrats do.
[00:32:17]  We're not going to be reactive to Democrats.
[00:32:19]  Stay focused on the prize, work our way up the train like a mob prosecutor.
[00:32:23]  Start with the low guys, work up to the top, get the evidence.
[00:32:26]  Don't shoot until you have the evidence.
[00:32:28]  All of that is the key to how you do a great investigation.
[00:32:31]  The greatest investigations in history have been run that way, like the China money one done in the 90s against the Clintons.
[00:32:36]  They're going to do that.
[00:32:37]  I have a lot of confidence right now.
[00:32:39]  The way James Comer is approaching it is the way the most successful congressional investigations in history have been run.
[00:32:44]  We'll have to see if they can deliver, but they're on the right path.
[00:32:47]  John, a minute remaining themes you're seeing at CPAC: energy.
[00:32:50]  You know, how is Nikki Haley being received?
[00:32:52]  What are you seeing in here in one minute remaining?
[00:32:55]  Listen, I think there's so much energy.
[00:32:56]  People realize there's a star-studded lineup from 20-year-olds to 75-year-olds, 78-year-olds.
[00:33:02]  They're excited to go out and talk to people.
[00:33:05]  Everybody here is not talking about pie charts.
[00:33:07]  They're talking about engaging real Americans across this country, having a conversation, having it earlier than normal so that early voters can go out and vote Republican, not Democrat this time.
[00:33:17]  That's a big change with the president.
[00:33:19]  A lot of energy, some of the strongest energy I felt at CPAC in the 30 years that I've covered it.
[00:33:24]  And Rav is the center of all that.
[00:33:25]  John, great program every day.
[00:33:27]  Thanks so much.
[00:33:29]  Honor to be with you, Charlie.
[00:33:30]  Good luck.
[00:33:30]  Have a good day.
[00:33:30]  Thank you.
[00:33:31]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
[00:33:33]  Email me your thoughts as always.
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[00:33:35]  Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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